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Soku/PoFV/TPDP/IaMP and other 2hu games with netplay. Host, play and discuss your favorite multiplayer Touhou games.

Download Soku here:
>Community pack, all necessary tools come preinstalled. Get this if you are new
https://mega.nz/file/tgpSRRII#0rjHOBkXOn06_0GSX7-eWy5hcw0VGQhc5AiyoF4qwWg
or
https://soku.delthas.fr/rewired/game
>Base game, not necessary if you use the above link
https://mega.nz/#!ashhnZza!cWdD2mqnQSfpzow5h_LDABQzHOnAiHDL62ceAOF6z9k
>Upgrade pack for the base game
https://mega.nz/file/RhQj0CbA#rC6Jf9gTJsByL2ox59KxFqShoweUX0J3MHpQJKvKaRI
>get Giuroll here
https://github.com/Giufin/giuroll/releases

Can't forward ports in order to host? Try these:
>Autopunch: Mainly for Soku, not necessary if you got the Community pack
https://autopunch.delthas.fr/
>Proxypunch: Compatible with more games, a bit less user-friendly
https://github.com/delthas/proxypunch

Other games:
>PoFV Netplay guide
https://maribelhearn.com/pofv
>PoFV Netplay tutorial
https://youtu.be/Q1RzTArt4es [Embed]
>Touhou Puppet Dance Performance: Shard of Dreams
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/349-touhou-puppet-dance-performance-shard-of-dreams/
>Download IaMP here, includes Rollcaster netplay tool
http://www.mediafire.com/download/fkhedlxiujnrutd
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soku anyone?
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>>1541142
sure. Room name is vm reserved
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>>1541149
>failed to connect
please join me instead
84.10.221.254:10800, GR 0.6.14
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>>1541149
GGs! I was excited for Alice mirrors but your Udonge was a much better match.
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>>1541268
GGs. Nice blockstrings, really forced me to learn how to rightblock and find holes there. Of course it's a lot more motivating to figure that out when I'm also learning Alice on the side. I'd like to do more mirrors someday but she still needs work
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soku?
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soku now?
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ip grabbing game
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>>1542428
soku now
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>>1542462
hosting >>1541159
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>>1542466
ggs, i have to leave now
thanks for hosting
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>>1542609
GGs! The RNGods were merciful today.
Very nice Alice vs Alice match.
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soku
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>>1546047
5.16.27.46:10800 get in with giuroll! Not for too long though.
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>>1546052
Game froze, rehosting.
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>>1546052
>>1546069
GGs
I fucked up at the end
fuck
I'll get my revenge another day
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>>1546098
Ggs! You got catfished I forgot to change to my actual deck but decided to keep it, I got fantasy heavened, everyone happy! I finally got how it works, condition is for amount of hits on opponent and not a timer for not taking damage as I thought, must have for typhoons.
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>>1546107
I fucking hate that fish
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soku?
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>>1546560
yes soku
84.10.221.254:10800, GR 0.6.14
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>>1546563
ggs, i can only take so many cirno games in one night
for whatever reason it seems like my stamina for Alice mirrors lasts exactly for one round before my brain overheats
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Good games, well played. One day I will not wrongblock every one of Yuyuko's attacks.
>>1546643
Shame, I could do them forever.
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more soku?
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>>1547698
yeh
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Host for whoever comes first I guess? 37.112.17.64:10800 with giuroll
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>>1549481
GGs
happy Christmas
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Apparently, squall links with usual ground combo just well... Yeah things are becoming more understandable now.
>>1549564
Ggs, happy christmas to you too!
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christmas soku?
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>>1549647
Christmas soku!
84.10.221.254:10800, GR 0.6.14
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>>1549654
sorry had some tech issues, can you rehost please
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>>1549654
random game crash, but i had to leave soon anyways so might as well call it there
ggs, thanks for hosting and merry christmas
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>>1549727
All I got for Christmas this year was a beating.
Thanks for joining, GGs! Merry Christmas!
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soku
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>>1550321
yes soku >>1549654
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>>1549654
>>1550323
GGs
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>>1550347
GGs, merry Christmas!
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more christmas soku?
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>>1550501
yeah
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>>1550506
can you host
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>>1550512
yeah
the usual
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>>1550513
can't see you on the hostlist
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>>1550519
when I host it stays up for a while then disappears, when I try to host again it won't let me unless I reset my network
try now
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>>1550519
>>1550523
GGs
I got less raped today
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>>1550547
ggs, see how much you can do when you don't give me free openings after wake up or airtech?
and merry christmas
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>>1550549
merry christmas you too
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Im coming home right now so I'll ask if anyone is available to play soku, not now of course, but later
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>>1553722
ok soku now
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>>1553800
soku now?
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soku now (not him btw)
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host
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GGs. Setting up Sanae's 5card between rounds is fucking devilish. I like it.
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>>1554159
ggs, that was some very intense soku, i need some rest
>Setting up Sanae's 5card between rounds is fucking devilish
i love those little gimmicks that are just bullshit. it's so obnoxious even when you see it coming
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Soku in half an hour?
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>>1554530
if you can host now then sure
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>>1554647
I can, hop on 176.213.147.94:10800 with giuroll!
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>>1554651
Connection lost (again), rehosting if you're up for more.
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>>1554683
>Failed to connect
first time was a random crash, now it seems like the connection is truly dead
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>>1554687
Aw well, ggs then, quite impressive how you're so good with any character! I really lack character knowledge since I mostly only played against Marisa and Alice, Suika's moves especially were just incomprehensible for me. And Aya mirror were kinda humiliating but I will catch up at some point...
On the bright side, today I got to connect bullet hit and crowcard second time in my life, this time intentionally!
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>>1554692
ggs, thanks for hosting. Suika isn't that bad really, it's just that i got a meme deck with literally all command throws including the 5 cost card, which can be really tricky to play around in a game where almost no one has a throw. if i get to use a normal deck against you it probably won't be as silly
>today I got to connect bullet hit and crowcard second time in my life
that was a very good confirm, i hardly ever get to combo from stray bullets like that
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soku
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>>1555239
Yes soku >>1553984
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>>1555239
Thanks for joining, GGs.
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>>1553984
>>1555249
GGs
Holy fuck playing against Alice is impossible she's like a castle, I cannot get slip in with anything
Sorry I was playing like punching bag, I was just looking for openings and playing for the counterattack
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>>1555364
got to spectate a few games, Alice truly fucking sucks to play against as Reimu
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>>1555422
any advice?
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>>1555433
NTA, but here's an advice from someone who has been Alice's punching bag for quite a while : don't let Alice snowball you, try to clear dolls or don't let to set them up before it's too late and you're cornered with 4 dolls shooting at you.
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>>1555433
i wish
the most success i've had was trying to chip down Alice from a distance because Reimu's normals kinda blow at close range and at mid range Alice is just better. even then, you end up giving her a ton of space to set up as many dolls as she wants, but it's still better than the alternative
also try not to whiff things like 6A, against other characters you may catch a dash in but Alice will very happily just f5A you in return every single time
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soku

>>1555467
do you play Reimu main?
wanna play mirror matches with me?
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>>1557486
Soku? At 176.213.147.94:10800 with giuroll!
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>>1557512
GGs
and happy new year
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>>1557530
Ggs, game was unusually laggy today, happy coming new year!
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>>1557532
DOUBLE SUICIDE
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last soku of 2024?
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>>1557856
Is it too late to ask now?
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>>1558645
it isn't, there are still a couple hours left for some 2024 soku
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>>1558753
actually maybe not right now but in about half an hour from now
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>>1558755
'kay, I'm ready when you are.
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>>1558799
i'm ready now, can you host?
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>>1558818
vm reserved
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GGs. Rigged as hell random select wanted that Sanae runback
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>>1558880
ggs, i can probably play some more later on if you want
thanks for hosting and happy new year
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>>1558882
Another day. I wanna hit up training mode for a bit before playing more matches. Happy New Year
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Anyone up for soku today?
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>>1559168
sure i'm still up for games
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stop mashing and play the puppet game
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>>1559247
Hop on 37.113.228.62:10800 with giuroll then!
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>>1559261
did our connection kill itself again
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>>1559284
Yeah this time it died on my side, rehosted if you're up for more.
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>>1559286
ggs, looks like the game loves Komachi today
thanks for hosting
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>>1559329
Ggs! Yeah quite a lot of Komachi matches, and I still can't quite get how to properly play against her. Any tips for her or in general, aside from still... absent proper combos?
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>>1559340
to be honest she kinda sucks, the only easy way for her to open people up is through j2A crossups so if you are on the lookout for those then defending against her should be pretty easy. then again i never got to use Taste of Death which is her only other relevant mix up
also she has a whole lot of anti airs and her 66C is air unblockable too so low flights are super unsafe against her unless you are at literal full screen distance. Aya shouldn't have much trouble with that anyways, Gust Fan is an amazing anti-anti air
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I want to try playing pofv, can someone host?
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>>1560717
Hosting at 84.10.221.254:10801 with Adonis2
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>>1560740
give me a min, it's not launching
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>>1560740
thanks! seems like it works
lets play later maybe
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>>1560789
Congrats, you set it up right. Just so you know, you picked the weakest character in the game so if your goal is to win you may want to not do that.
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>>1560793
I don't care I like her
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>>1560798
also I need to start playing again because I'm very rusty and I have not played pofv in a long time, but I know how it works
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>>1560793
Ok I finished up doing some stuff, wanna play again a couple of rounds?
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>>1560830
Sure, hop in. Same IP.
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>>1560835
Thanks for the games, I managed to grab some rounds so I'm happy, I'm going back to doing some stuff
let's play later maybe
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>>1560857
GGs, good job scoring points. You can press the Save Replay button to exit the game.
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>>>/v/699093359
GGs, well played. Some of Aya's sprites are way too distracting. Even if you can't see her pantsu, it's still showing a lot of skin.
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>>1560859
up for more pofv?

>>1562297
>Some of Aya's sprites are way too distracting
true true
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>>1562297
Ggs, webmrel was so dumblucky but also so satisfying.
> Even if you can't see her pantsu, it's still showing a lot of skin.
I firmly believe she does that intentionally, enough to catch eyes and distract mine too but not enough to show anything important.
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>>>/v/699165138
New IP: 37.113.231.20
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>>1563456
I wanted to call it quits after that thread 404'd, I'm glad I didn't. GGs, well played. That nonstatic IP must come in handy sometimes.
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>>1563495
Ggs! Second time we start there and end up here, lol.
> That nonstatic IP must come in handy sometimes.

Until they notice and reach for subnet...
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soku
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>>1563577
Yes soku! 84.10.221.254:10800, giuroll
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>>1563577
GGs, that was time well spent. My brain is starting to acknowledge the existence of Sakuya's AUB. Developing countermeasures. Maybe next I'll think about not trying to 66A through your knives at melee range. You gave me lots to think about. Thanks for joining.
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>>1563692
ggs, well played
>Maybe next I'll think about not trying to 66A through your knives at melee range
it's not so bad, those 66As killed like half my attempts at setting up Phantasmic Killer
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soku or pofv?
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>>1563805
i can play soku now
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>>1564001
ok lets go
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>>1564002
can you host
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>>1564005
yeah, same as always
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>>1564005
game crash
rehosting
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>>1564034
now my game crashed
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>>1564034
I think the network might be dead
GGs anyway
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>>1564040
yeah i guess the game doesn't want to work today
ggs
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soku
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>>1565112
soku! >>1563589
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>>1565121
Sorry there was a power outage due to rain
GG's
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>>1565132
ggs
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pofv?
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pofv?
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soku
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>>1570371
soku?
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pofv...
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>>1571250
Yes, PoFV.
84.10.221.254:10801, Adonis2
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>>1571260
GGs
back to work
thanks for playing with me
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>>1571297
Thanks for joining, fun games.
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soku
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>>1572544
still want soku?
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>>1572715
sure but i probably won't stay around for too long
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>>1572749
84.10.221.254:10800, giuroll
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>>1572749
Thanks for joining, GGs. I thought I was starting to understand.
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>>1572848
ggs, thanks for hosting
you were, but these cards are so stupidly high damage that even a tiny mistake snowballs into half an hp bar and suddenly all your momentum is lost
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soku or pofv?
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>>1572890
Yeah sure >>1572754
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>>1572898
GGs

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>1573012
GGs, you did alright. Keep it up.
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>>>/v/699983371
Thanks for hosting, GGs.
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Now what the mofuark is this damage...
>>1576106
Ggs! I still feel like a complete slug when I play with you, in situations when I have to play aggressively I vaguely know what to do, but when I try to do that it works out in only like 5%, otherwise these air-to-air kicks for example result in just another combo in me. Any tips how to improve in this regards, if it's possible at all? Or just play more input faster?
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>>1576112
Play more input faster is the best advice I'm capable of giving. See what works and what doesn't, learn, adapt. Keep in mind that your opponents are also learning and adapting and may sometimes be slow to do so. If there's a way of improving other than putting in the hours, I don't know it.
As for your webm, this is why I can never give up Alice. She may not compete with the high tiers but when her spellcards hit, they hit hard.
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pofv?
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>>1576171
sure >>1571260
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>>1576181
sorry let's pley in a few mins, gotta work
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>>1576112
guard crushes have really massive proration. combine that with a low HP opponent and Aya's already kinda shit damage and yeah
that's always good to remember before choosing to blow all your cards after getting a guard break
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>>1576184
ok I'm done, let's play again
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>>1576196
join up
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>>1576197
GGs that was pretty good, I almost won one
let's play later maybe
>Medicine
My skin burnss
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>>1576222
GGs, thanks for joining.
Please pick a more opportune time to play, pausing a match in the third round is the worst.
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>>1576223
I'm very sorry about that I got called up to hel pwith something
I'm playing in the dead hours of work
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soku
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>>1577586
yeh
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>>1577586
Time and place
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>>1578537
nta but now
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>>1578538
Host
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>>1578543
same as always
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>>1577586
still up for soku if anyone else is alive
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>>1578590
lets go >>1578544
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>>1578591
rehost
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>>1578596
sorry someone got in
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>>1578599
rehosting btw
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>>1578600
try again, i saw a host up for like 3 seconds before it vanished
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>>1578602
yeah sometimes it does that
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>>1578609
it should be up, get in now
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>>1578611
>failed to connect
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>>1578612
really?
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>>1578618
yes, but i think it's on my end because i can't even host with autopunch apparently
not sure what's going on, let me try out a couple things first and we can try again in a few minutes
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>>1578623
GGs
kino Reimu mirrors
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>>1578721
ggs
indeed, all mirror matches were too close
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more soku
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>>1579506
Still up for it?
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>>1579572
nta but i can play if you're still up
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>>1579648
Not for long sadly. I'll likely be around to ask for games tomorrow at least
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>>1579658
sure no worries
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>>1579648
ok let's go
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up for soku again
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>>1580347
yes
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>>1580389
sure can you host
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>>1580424
same as always
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>>1580425
>>1580424
GGs
I FUCKING HATE THIS ATTACK, IT'S SO USELESS
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>>1580476
ggs, sorry i had to mute the game i didn't know that was supposed to be last
you've gotten much much better recently, but you should really try to avoid using moves with such high commitment like 6a/66c so often just to try to land a hit. generally you want to use quick moves to open people up so you don't eat a ton of unnecessary damage in case you miss
>IT'S SO USELESS
try land canceling it more often at max range, most characters can't do shit about it
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>>1580544
>6a/66c
The latter just works sometimes as it can graze a bit a catch someone offguard, but you are right.
>try land canceling it more often at max range
how do I do that?
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>>1580690
>how do I do that?
literally just landing with the move. landing with aerial moves has almost no recovery in this game, and that thing has big range and is active for a long time so if you use it while landing i can't really punish you for it. if you use it while rising for example you are stuck in recovery for a long time which gets you clipped by stray bullets constantly, unless you hit me and get to cancel it of course

if you use C amulets as cover it's specially difficult for me to try to challenge your landing with that move
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>>1580913
alright thanks
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soku?
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>>>/v/700377381
5.16.26.157:10800
Doubling here in case you don't have dollchan or other thread autorefreshers.
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>>1582371
GGs, well played. Keep not letting me control the entire screen. Keep getting that damage in.
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>>1582589
Ggs, games so good today I almost forgot I got to go. By the way, what happened on webmrel? I literally can't see any hits or bullets to hit me there...
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>>1582602
It's a Returning Doll coming from off-screen. You can see the wire at the start of the webm.
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>>1582634
Oooh now I see it, I thought it was wire from shooter doll and tried to see any rainbow bullets coming from there.
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soku anyone
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>>1582973
yeah
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>>1583002
host
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>>1583010
same as always
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>>1583013
crash
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>>1583058
are you rehosting?
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>>1583061
yeah, just give me a min
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I think you gotta reset your game and network
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GGs
sorry I got a bit angry
man I can't understand this game
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>>1583077
i restarted everything like 3 times and it didn't work, then i did literally nothing else, joined again and it started working again. no clue why our connection acts retarded like that some times
>>1583143
ggs, and yeah i could tell, no worries
you were on the right track yesterday, it just takes a while time to get consistent at it
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soku
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>>1583761
soku
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>>1585944
soku?
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>>1586066
sure but short set because i need to go to bed soon
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>>1586069
84.10.221.254:10800, giuroll
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>>1586069
GGs. That wasn't a short set, was it? Sorry to keep you up so late.
Don't want to be a backseat driver but are you holding back on Sakuya's oki strats? I used to dread getting knocked down against her but you're just letting me get up. Even when you have the right spellcard selected.
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>>1586123
ggs, very well played. wasn't intending to play for this long but i can't say no to some good soku. also
>mountain vapor phantasmic killer as last resort
some times all you have to do is believe

>spoiler
this is not my oki oriented deck, private square is in there mostly as weather manipulation, checkmate situations like typhoon/sunshower and really because it's just broken as hell all around. i don't use the other deck as often unless i want to derust those setups, mostly because spamming the wake-up mario party guessing mini game over and over isn't really fun for either party in a casual set, unless both players are very deep into the setplay flowchart
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>>1586125
I see. Glad to hear you're not going easy on me. Sweet dreams.
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Soku gaming?
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>>1586195
yes >>1586070
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more soku
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>>1586195
GGs, well played. My entire hand hurts, that's too much soku for today.
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>>1586306
Ggs, thanks for hosting!
> My entire hand hurts, that's too much soku for today.
I guess tiring your opponent is also strategy to win, lol.
>>1586202
I'd be up for more in like 2-3 hours.
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>>1586315
>I'd be up for more in like 2-3 hours.
nah gotta go in one hour
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>>1586315
>I'd be up for more in like 2-3 hours.
how about now
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>>1586729
Let's, but not for too long, hop on 5.16.26.157:10800 with giuroll!
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>>1586772
>Failed to connect
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>>1586783
Hmm, try now?
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>>1586794
still nothing
i wonder if it's on my end, since i can't host even though my setup should support hole-punching
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>>1586808
Maybe, I don't think I've had problems with people connecting to me before. Just in case, check if you entered correct IP, if still nothing well we can try our luck next time with autopunch maybe.
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>>1586816
nothing, i tried updating the autopunch module as well and it still doesn't work. it's strange because i have already joined you before and had no issues, i even joined another host just a few hours ago and still had no problems
just to make sure, what does http://netplay.lunarcast.net/check.php show if you run the test while hosting?
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>>1586850
Seems like everything's fine. Maybe your ISP blocks connection to certain IP ranges?
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>>1586860
not sure about that, i tried joining through a VPN as well and still nothing. on the bright side, apparently i can host on the hostlist (with autopunch) now so see if you can join there
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>>1586899
Oh we can, though it's tournament time now that's why I said not for long that time. Now that it's solved, see you later!
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>>1586908
dunno why that worked but sure, good to see there's a workaround
fuck's sake i forgot that was today and didn't register
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Hold the fugg up, there's a tournament? Why did no one tell me?
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>>1586933
i did not in fact rember
also they did not make a separate thread in the usual board so you will have to scroll to the bottom of https://zzzchan.xyz/japan/thread/11497.html to find it
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>>1586961
Third time in a row I miss one of their tourneys. I have this thread open too, I just didn't check it for a month.
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Jobbing to japYuukarin second time...
>>1586933
Oops, sorry, I was almost sure everyone here also know and visit zzzchan, where it also was announced.
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Quick tips&tricks vs Suika? I don't think I've learned anything from last time I played against her...
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>>1587139
respect the fireworks and get out of that area if you can't navigate around them, don't spam flight so often if you are in loliball range since you can't stop it with bullets, abuse her bad defense with endless pressure
good luck
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>>1587139
don't get fucking massacred
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>>1587167
Thanks, it looked so much scarier before. Now revenge against Yuukarin...
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>>1587221
>that train dodge
HOOOLY SHIT
You spent three months in the hyperbolic Alice chamber, you better not fuck this up.
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>>1587221
Congrats on the win!
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>>1587247
> You spent three months in the hyperbolic Alice chamber, you better not fuck this up.
Yep, that didn't go to waste, 2-0 against Alice (romanian), thanks sensei.
>>1587295
Thanks to all who have been playing with me previously! Final victory wasn't my biggest win today though, not as much as revenge against the Yukari player who ended last tournament for me and sent to loser bracket in this one, feels sweet to see previous 0-2 and today's 2-1.
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>>1587297
shit i couldn't watch the finals but congrats, both sets against Suika and Yukari were great to watch
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sokusokusokusokusokusoku
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>>1588212
yes soku
84.10.221.254:10800 giuroll
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>>1588212
GGs, cool Iku. I hope you stick with her.
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>>1588223
GGs
I think I should learn how to play Iku instead
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soku
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>>1588459
soku soku >>1588223
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>>1588459
GGs, well played. That's the Sakuya I remember.
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>>1588660
ggs
maybe my other deck did need some practice after all
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is someone alive? I want to test out something, but I need a host (that is not from lobbymod)
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>>1588856
yeah, does an autopunch host work for you?
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>>1588897
maybe, try to host
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>>1588920
146.70.187.182:10800
also up on the hostlist
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>>1588933
nope, doesn't work
It's what I expected, thanks for trying are you up for playing later tonight?
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>>1588939
depends on how late that would be, but most likely yes
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>>1588954
6-7 hours maybe
or tomorrow around the same time as >>1588212
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>>1588957
>6-7 hours maybe
around 6 hours from now works for me
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>>1588959
cool
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I haven't playeded soku in a few years anf wanna play it again but what even is all this stuff in that first link back in my day sokuroll was just enough
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>>1589248
a bunch of QoL stuff that was added like fixing desyncs, better controller support, an in-game hostlist, an enhanced training mode etc. most of it isn't necessary if you already have the game installed and are happy with that

we don't use sokuroll anymore though, there's giuroll which is an improved version and you can find the link in the OP as well. they are not compatible so you do need to install that module
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>>1588961
i'm up now if you wanna play
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>>1589653
im coming home right now
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>>1589653
>>1589667
ok host NOW
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>>1589689
see >>1588933
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>>1589695
GGs and thanks for hosting
YEAAAAAAAH I WON ONE WITH IKU
I was sad about that first Suika match with that demonic grab but everything is ok now
I wish there was a guide about how to deal with Oki
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>>1589792
ggs
if you intend to learn Iku then i very highly suggest adding Veils Like Sky x4 on your deck. not only will it spare you from those moments when you get constantly rushed down without any room to breathe till you die, but learning to use it properly will probably teach you a lot about better movement for perma grazing
>>1589792
>I wish there was a guide about how to deal with Oki
we all do
but for starters you may wanna tone down your aggression on wake up a little bit. unless you really don't respect your opponent oki, which is also valid but depends on the opponent. usually when you are recovering from wake up or in the corner your first priority should be trying to get back to a neutral situation, rather than trying to beat them up
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>>1589803
>rather than trying to beat them up
yeah.. I tend to do that a lot
I mean the majority of opponents do it and works for them, I don't know why.
I could be right besides them waiting for the wake up, so I can put some pressure with a 5A, and they counterblock me all the time, but when I do it I get smacked.
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>>1589809
counter-attack me"
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>>1589809
>I could be right besides them waiting for the wake up, so I can put some pressure with a 5A, and they counterblock me all the time, but when I do it I get smacked
hitting that properly means timing the start of attack slightly before they finish waking up, which can be hard to do unless the move is active for a really long time. if you are too early, the attack will come out before they finish waking up while they are still invincible, so instead you are in recovery and they have time to hit you instead. if you do it a bit too late, they will have time to press a button as well. the timing can be really finicky so it takes some practice to do right
it's easier to do with bullets because some bullets tend to move slowly and stay active in an area for a long time (like Iku's 5c which shoots out a thunder ball that stands still). but if you only do that then the opponent can wake up and instantly high jump, which is when you should catch that jump instead
this guy explains it more nicely if you need an example https://youtu.be/_R0hbe8HZj0?t=671

if you want to just escape instead you probably want to block the oki and look for chances to border escape or use defensive cards instead. Iku also has extremely variable wake up timings because of her super long tech, so that's another way to mix up your options and make the opponent fuck up their timings
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>>1589827
thanks man, much appreciated
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Soku gaming in around half an hour?
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>>1590193
yeah
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An hour is somewhat around half an hour too I hope...
>>1590198
Hop on 5.16.26.157:10800 with giuroll, but this time from sokulobbies client with vanilla network menu! I noticed my giuroll versions are different, it might be that (thought I thought they were compatible).
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>>1590211
GGs
that leap attack is so confusing, I swear I'm blocking an it still gets me
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Hisoutensoku: strive when
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>>1590248
Ggs!
> I swear I'm blocking an it still gets me
Yep, that means I finally started using it as actual mixup tool. I can control flight a bit and land it further than center of your hitbox, making your block invalid as you should've blocked to the left on webmrel. I LOVE tengu drum.
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>>1590250
AAAAAAA that's the exact moment fuck
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>>1590249
god help us if that ever happens
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>>1590249
Never. AoCF: Strive however...
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more soku?
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>>1590498
yeah?
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>>1590249
nobody tell him
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>>1590827
still up? i could play for a bit
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>>1590980
yeah
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>>1590984
146.70.187.182:10800
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>>1590986
crash
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>>1591007
GGs
man do you know the frame advantages of all the characters? there's no way around you
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>>1591035
ggs
not quite, but it's not too complicated in this game either. you can just assume that rightblock=minus and wrongblock=plus. if i see you wrongblock something i will keep extending forever. there are really few exceptions that are worth learning, like Okuu charged 6A which crushes on wrongblock but still gives her the advantage if you block it right or Remi's slide which as you might have already noticed i shamelessly abused for that whole match
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>>1591041
>or Remi's slide which as you might have already noticed i shamelessly abused for that whole match
yes, I'm still salty about that and the question was born from that abuse
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>>1591046
yeah that's probably the worst offender in the game. basically it's always plus unless i use it point blank AND you block it right. if you wrongblock you HAVE to hold block, and even if you block it right, if i use it from a distance then it's still my turn. one of the many reasons everybody hates Remi
don't worry that's about as complex as it gets with frame advantage of melee moves in this game
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>>1591048
I think I should work on my defense more then, getting beaten up for a long time without diminishing returns get's very tiring
Good night
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>>1591052
might wanna consider bringing more defensive cards in that case, they are pretty good training wheels for defense and you'll probably gain more from that than some other spell cards
good night
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Can I get some cirno tips
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>>1591360
I load up one of my decks with great crusher, she's got good range as well and her delayed attacks can make for fun situations, her kick is also cute
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>>1591360
get good at corner rape and your life will be 10x easier as cirno
also ice charge helps her cover quite a few of her problems, try it if you don't have it in your deck already
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soku?
i wanna try out a couple cards
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>>1591735
yeah
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>>1592583
still up? i can play now
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>>1592815
NTA but I can play
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>>1592924
sorry had to do something, but if you still wanna play just host
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>>1593054
vm reserved
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GGs. Free me from the corner jail
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>>1593241
ggs, thanks for hosting
you played really well, there really wasn't much missing besides more experience against some characters
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soku
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soku
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>>1595799
i can play for a bit
host if you still wanna play
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>>1595891
vm resereved
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>>1595896
rehost, i was about to join
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>>1595900
that guy wasn't you?
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>>1595900
never mind i just noticed someone else joined instead
you can keep playing if you want though
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>>1595902
the guy left after a match
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>>1595903
well then, rehost again please
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>>1595907
GGs
Sorry there was a power outage
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>>1595929
well ggs then
that was much better though, you found many chances to escape without eating much damage at all
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>>1595931
ok I think I found the problem, the heating system was faulty but I fixed it, I think
Wanna try again?
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>>1595967
sure but i'll be leaving soon so not for too long
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>>1596005
host up
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>>1596007
GGs
that was pretty good, I need to polish a few more things and I'll be able to win more
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>>1596072
ggs, yeah that was very well played, i think you already noticed the huge difference. also

>completely whiff tenshi's reversal
>still get a random bullshit crossup for 7k raw damage
lel sorry but that was funny as hell, i think that was aurora drizzle too
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>>1596089
yeah that was bullshit haha
how did that get me?
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>>1596091
it was a counter hit so you were caught pressing something
that spell has 2 parts, the uppercut and that huge fucking rock falling from the sky. i don't know if the rock tracks you or falls at a static distance, but you have to block it high because i'm pretty sure it will hit you even on wrongblock
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>>1596109
oh fuck I shouldn't have jumped
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soku?
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>>1598013
84.10.221.254:10800, giuroll 0.6.14
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>>1598033
GGs
I fucking hale alice man
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>>1598013
GGs, thanks for joining.
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i wanna try soku
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>>1598472
Jump in to >>1598033 if you don't mind a bit of bulling.
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>>1598612
is that whateverthefuck giuroll version the one that is in the first op link download pack
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>>1598656
>>1598612
whatever im in
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>>1598659
it crashed, rehosting
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>>1598720
im gonna grab some food dont bother ggs and all that
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>>1598737
GGs, pretty good Patchouli. Seen worse.
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late night soku?
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late morning soku?
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>>1599781
I'd be up in like 1.5-2 hours or so.
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>>1599813
early afternoon soku?
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>>1599846
Hop on 37.113.227.178:10800 with giuroll if you're still up!
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>>1599857
Thanks for hosting, GGs. Okuu's moves leave a lot of openings.
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Okuu is so grabbable during her spellcards...
>>1599920
Ggs! I really liked rocket dive move and spellcard, however there is one small issue - it's DP input... And even aside from rocket dive that is more of meme "one move for limit" skill, other Okuu's DP skills are also useful, and I'm barely able to input them. Though Okuu's damage is awesome even without fancy combos, feels great to only need to land like 4 autocombos to win.
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>>1599930
>Okuu is so grabbable during her spellcards...
sure most of them are punishable, but atlas isn't really a grab and it's fully invincible. it will win literally every trade
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>>1599846
up for more early afternoon soku?
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>>1600477
How about late evening soku, right about now?
84.10.221.254:10800, giuroll 0.6.14
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>>1600605
now i have to finish something else first, i should be free in about 40-50 min from now
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>>1600643
No big deal, feel free to join whenever.
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>>1600655
nta but are you still up?
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>>1600605
ggs, that was some good late afternoon soku
in theory c ricochet sucks dick, in practice i guess it instills the fear of god in the opponents
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>>1600908
GGs, extremely well played. I scored against Yuyuko once, I'll take that as a victory for tonight. Absolutely brutal Sakuya, just the way I like it.
>in theory c ricochet sucks dick
As I saw it, it took like 3 orbs when blocked and did 2500k damage when not. It's a very scary spell.
>>1600858
Rehosting, let me get some caffeine in my bloodstream first. The night is still young (not really).
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>>1600913
>As I saw it, it took like 3 orbs when blocked and did 2500k damage when not
yeah, it's just that it does about the same spirit damage of Killing Doll for double the cost, has okay-ish damage for a 4-cost spell and has no real setups unlike KD/PS because of how long the startup is
but maybe forcing the opponent to graze or block purely out of fear isn't that bad at all
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>>1600913
Too slow. Host down, goodnight.
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If you play yuyuko you cannot have salary job
If you play yuyuko you can't have sex
You are lazy worthless nigger looking for a easy way out probably sitting in his room alone jacking off 24/7
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>>1601601
you sound black
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>>1601601
I don't play Yuyuko but let's kill each other
host
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>>1601601
if ltg would play soku he would play yuyuko since he only plays lame zoners
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soku
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>>1602928
yes soku >>1600605
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>>1602931
ggs, thanks for hosting
let's just pretend no one got crushed by Alice charged dial A of all things
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>>1602999
Thanks for joining, GGs. It's always shocking to be reminded that Alice has a crushing move.
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host the videogame
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>>1603007
I host >>1600605
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>>1603009
not playing you cornball
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>>1603011
rude
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>>1603011
What THE FWARK does cornball supposed to mean?
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SOKU
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>>1603186
yes soku stop shouting >>1600605
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>>1603197
sorry for the ragequit, I just can't believe how that card didn't connect when you came flying down with a kick right in my face
It's just unbelievable
If you wanna keep playing I can get in again
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>>1603217
Understandable ragequit, I'm not sure what happened here either.
It's kinda late so let's call it GGs.
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>>1603221
>webm
FUCK
FUUUUUUUUCK
ok ggs
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>>1603221
that's a picture-perfect safejump
https://hisouten.koumakan.jp/wiki/Glossary#:~:text=safejump
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>>1603333
wow that's some bullshit
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Soku gaming?
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>>1604174
yes soku, yes gaming
84.10.221.254:10800, GR
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>>1604180
Ggs! I felt so smart for not falling for reversal spellcard twice in a row, god I hate them and the fact that none of characters I play have them.
Okuu is quite fun to play, though feels lot more defensive than Aya, maybe because I'm mostly playing against Suika and she can't really break my spirit with anything other than with powerslide.
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>>1604355
GGs, good soku. I was about to post the exact same clip. The power of learning. Please also learn to not hug the corner when Suika has a Massacre ready.
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>>1604368
> Please also learn to not hug the corner when Suika has a Massacre ready.

That would require looking at your cardbar, and if I'm waiting for you to grab me I might as well just smack you for that? Though being honest I only recognize how your rock throw and reversal look like, their thumbnails aren't too revealing.
So about touhou triathlon, do you have someone in mind or just want to try if anyone will be up for it?
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>>1604385
>if I'm waiting for you to grab me I might as well just smack you for that?
Yeah that's the plan. I wasn't expecting webm related to actually work.
The Massacre looks pretty standout to me, but I may be a little biased.
>spoiler2
Two other people seemed interested in that one thread but will they actually join? Might be worth trying if there's ever a surviving weekend thread.
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>>1604410
> I wasn't expecting webm related to actually work.
Oh, it was because Okuu's dashes are reeeeeeeeealy long. And I think I misinputed something here since dashing backwards makes no sense, really can't tell what would make me dash like that consciously.
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>>1604434
Or wait it wasn't even a dash, just walking back. Uuugh I guess played character has some impact on player...
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games
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>>1604518
Like soku? I'd be up for some more.
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>>1604385
>and if I'm waiting for you to grab me I might as well just smack you for that?
protip: just jump
that's how you beat any throw. in the case of Massacre specifically you can even jump after the spell flash and still dodge it, so there's a ton of time to react to it. if you try throwing out an attack after spell flash you will get grabbed every time
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>>1604546
>Any throw
What about Yuyuko's kiss or Iku's scarf?
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>>1604553
those are, for all intents and purposes, regular AUBs. Iku's B 623 is even blockable
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>>1604560
A throw is a throw though
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>>1604562
not everything that looks like a throw is actually a throw
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>>1604571
But the character GRABS and THROWS with those attacks
By definition they are throws
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>>1604572
so is Atlas, but it's still a blockable move
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>>1604574
So with your logic, Yuyuko's skill IS a throw
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>>1604577
when i say they are basically regular AUBs it's because there's no real mechanical difference in this game between an "airthrow" and an AUB, other than the animation. it's not like there's throw techs in this game or anything else to set them apart
any throws that are actually, distinctively throws, share the properties of throws in any other game. so they are unblockable and whiff on airborne opponents
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>>1604588
That's a funny logic, when Yuyuko's skill is unblockable and also throws the opponent directly into oki
>it's not like there's throw techs in this game
I don't think this matters at all, when you can't tech spellcard throws either
The only main difference with other games is just the dumb tech but even then, other games just count them as throws even if they lack tech
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>>1604540
yes
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>>1604616
Not for long, but hop on 5.16.27.119:10800 with giuroll!
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>>1604594
>when Yuyuko's skill is unblockable and also throws the opponent directly into oki
setting up an oki situation isn't necessarily true for airthrows in other games, so that doesn't really mean much either
>I don't think this matters at all, when you can't tech spellcard throws either
no but grounded throws still have distinctive properties that are enough to tell them apart. that's why something like Meiling a623C is clearly not a throw despite being unblockable
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>>1604628
>no but grounded throws still have distinctive properties that are enough to tell them apart.
Like what?
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>>1604631
see >>1604588, basically all melee moves with those properties
in fact they don't just whiff on airborne opponents, they even whiff during jump startup even at point blank distance
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>>1604650
>Just because they whiff they are throws
Huh?
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>>1604626
Lobby autoclosed for some reason (or I didn't hear X taps), rehosted if up for more.
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>>1604656
Gotta go snooze now, host down, Was short but ggs!
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>>1604655
not many moves will fail completely on a non-blocking enemy during landing and while on the ground during the jump start-up frames
but jumps have throw invulnerability so stuff like this happens
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>>1604679
I'm aware but that doesn't make them throws where in other games you get anti air throws just fine
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>>1604689
i'd say the fact that there's a throw invulnerability flag and only the moves that share the properties of throws are affected by it most definitely makes them throws
>where in other games you get anti air throws just fine
all i'm saying is, they are functionally the exact same as AUBs. if you would rather think about them as anti air throws then so be it, but they simply aren't affected by properties that the rest of regular throws are affected by so you can't really expect anti-throw tech to work against those. instead the way to play around them is the exact same way you play around any other AUB
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>>1604696
>i'd say the fact that there's a throw invulnerability flag and only the moves that share the properties of throws are affected by it most definitely makes them throws
Then Yuyuko's is a throw
>all i'm saying is, they are functionally the exact same as AUBs.
I can see what you mean, but they are still throws really at the end of the day
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>>1604705
>>and only the moves that share the properties of throws are affected by it
>Then Yuyuko's is a throw
Yuyuko's throw clearly ignores any throw invulnerability anon, if it didn't it would be entirely useless
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>>1604732
>Yuyuko's throw clearly ignores any throw invulnerability anon
Finally we agree it's a throw
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>>1604736
shut up you get the point
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>>1604745
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soku?
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>>1604773
vm reserved
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>>1604783
ok coming in, there's a thunderstorm right now so if I die, you know why
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>>1604787
You don't have to give me thunderstorms too, are you trying to take me down with you? GGs
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>>1604783
>>1604787
GGs! nice patchy
I was going to say that you should ditch the swords, but thy still got me so I have nothing to say then
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>>1604882
I am blatantly overusing the swords in situations where her other tools would work better, but I think it's very funny to have them hanging around and hopefully give some intimidation
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>>1604904
>but I think it's very funny to have them hanging around and hopefully give some intimidation
heh
once I figured them out they were not scary anymore, patchy's entire arsenal of bullets are more scary
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I don't play soku because no 2hu has bouncing big boobies in that game
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>>1605431
Komachi looks stacked
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>>1605443
Mosquito bites compared to this
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>>1605431
so do you play aocf then?
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soku?
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>>1606176
ok
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>>1606242
84.10.221.254:10800, GR 0.6.14
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soku anyone else?
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>>1606242
Thanks for joining. Good effort in the last match.
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>>1605601
holy SEEEEEEEEEX
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soku
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>>1607218
yes soku >>1606253
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>>1607218
GGs, well played. Good soku. Ricochet stopped being scary after you told me it's not all that good.
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>>1607360
ggs, i need a break
thanks for hosting
>Ricochet stopped being scary after you told me it's not all that good.
yeah it's not terrible if you block it, but it takes so long that i can't force you to block it in the first place
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Hello Touhous and Toubros.
I'm trying to organize a 4-player game of Magical Battle Arena Next for this Sunday at an as-of-yet undefined time. Let me know if you're interested.
The game is only half Touhou I hope that's okay but it's fun free and fun.
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/560-magical-battle-arena-next/
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As an aside I also want to try this game.
https://moriyashrine.org/files/file/749-touhou-dai-undoukai-matsuri/
It's 4 player too.
Maybe we can do it after Magical Battle Arena Next.
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>>1608126
I'm grabbing it however can't be sure if I'm available this sunday, so write me in with pencil for now.
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>>1608131
I'm down for either. Might have to step down from the mahou shoujo game if it doesn't run on linux but I'll definitely play MM2 anytime it's hosted.
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>>1608245
>>1608303
Awesome!
If this Sunday at like 6PM EST doesn't work feel free to suggest better times. I'm a filthy NEET and can host whenever.
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>>1608825
Oh that's 4 AM for me, not even close... Something like 6 hours earlier would be better.
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>>1608825
That's midnight in euroland. Bit earlier, please.
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>>1608830
>>1608853
I can try Sunday 1 PM EST if that's better so long as we get 1 more for 4 total.
I'm worried about the connection I didn't know this place was so international. Hopefully it'll be fine.
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>>1609465
There was some MM2 played in a /v/ thread earlier today and let me tell you, it was bad even with all europeans. Intercontinental is probably a no-go. Let's hope the magical girl game has less terrible netcode, I want in on that shit.
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>>1609465
>I'm worried about the connection I didn't know this place was so international
would love to join in as well but this would definitely be an issue, my connection can barely even handle a 2p game with rollback so anything beyond that is a no-go for me
good luck running that though
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>>1609522
>>1609530
Even if it lags horribly I still think it's at least worth trying. Just make sure you have ethernet plugged in of course.
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>>1608126
can't, I have work
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>>1608825
I won't be able to make it at that time, sorry anon
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soku?
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>>1610338
84.10.221.254:10800, GR 0.6.14
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>>1610338
Thanks for joining, GGs.
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>>1610343
ggs, I hate Alice so much
and it fucking happened AGAIN>>1603221
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soku?
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>>1610433
more soku >>1610343
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why would i play soku
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>>1610336
That's fine. Like I said, feel free to suggest better times.
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>>1610439
Ggs alicefag, fun games.
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>>1610829
GGs, well played! You've got some stamina. I hope we can play again before next Setsubun.
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Going to try for 1PM EST today in MBAN.
RSVP if you're interested. If I can't get 4 people then I'll try another time.
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>>1610893
I'm up.
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soku?
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>>1610947
Hop on 5.16.28.11:10800 with giuroll! (till >>1610893 starts)
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MBAN lobby going up now! From the main menu go to network -> IP connection and find this screen. Enter my IP and port exactly as shown with "Client (クライエント)" highlighted.
Your player name will be different.

73.86.128.59:18000

Make sure your controls are all setup to your liking too.
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>>1611226
>クライエント
*クライアント
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>>1611110
ggs, was fun thanks for hosting
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>>1611256
Ggs! You seem to know Aya well enough, any general or exact tips and tricks for me? Also, now that I think of it, were yours 2A blockstrings tight or I just didn't manage to break them? Can they actually be tight and I'm just too slow to unput them tightly?
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2 more
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>>1611226
Ahem I probably should've thought about that earlier to not ask stupid questions, but even settings are all in japanese... What are main controls here? And where is how does netplay button look?
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Game crashed. Not sure why. Lobby going back up.

>>1611281
The menus should be explained in the moriyashrine link I posted.
And look for ネットワーク in the main menu for online.
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1 more!
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>>1611285
Ok, where is save changes button here?
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Be the way, don't say I haven't told you this time!
https://wapchan.org/vnt/res/948.html
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>>1611263
i feel there's a ton to say about Aya but i'll try to keep it short
>were yours 2A blockstrings tight or I just didn't manage to break them?
they are not tight, but that's the fun part because the gaps are way too small to try to mash out. if you try pressing anything you will get opened up. in some cases i stagger them intentionally to leave those gaps there and check if you are mashing
>Can they actually be tight and I'm just too slow to unput them tightly?
the only things you need to be tight are the melee > bullet links because otherwise they are an easy escape point if i just hold high jump. both 3A and 6A are tight into 6C at point blank range, and into 236 at slightly farther distances. neither bullet is particularly good to reset pressure but they are both good to set up BE catch situations so if you get me to block those you should probably try to look out for BEs until you force me to sit there and take the reset instead
also if you want free pressure resets you have your spell cards for that, the 1-cost, 2-cost and 3-cost spells are all stupidly safe pressure resets after 6A or 3A

you don't have to memorize all that but the point is Aya really prefers sticking to melee pressure as much as possible unlike other characters like Sakuya for example, so knowing which attacks let you restart your pressure and which ones will force you to end it helps a ton and will make you get more crushes
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>>1611226
Game crashed.
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Seems like it crashed.
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GGs though. I definitely can get much better at this game, and should play the single player modes.
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>>1611386
>>1611387
Seems like it. It's stuck on loading for me. Lobby going back up.

Also some things:
you have alternate attack and alternate fire, which can be done by holding the "trigger" button. You also get new attacks by holding down those buttons and charging them up, as represented by the bars on the left side of the screen.
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>>1611391
> you have alternate attack and alternate fire, which can be done by holding the "trigger" button
Hmm, this button shoots additional bullets by itself for me...
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Game suddenly crashed.
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Well that's a crash lmao.
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Aw it crushed again in the middle of the fight now...
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Alright. Lobby going up one more time.
Let's say like 2 or 3 more fights?
I'm just happy we're able to play at all.
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>>1611504
I can't connect now somehow...
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>>1611568
Uh oh. Lobby is definitely still open and the others guys are still in it. Did you change anything?
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>>1611569
No, literally just restarted the game. Always fascinated me how programs like that just decide to fall apart for no apparent reason.
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>>1611572
I'll close and re-open the lobby. Double check to make sure the IP and everything is correct.
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Crashed just as that match ended.
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Well that was as good a place to crash as any I suppose.
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>crash
I'll call it here for now my fingers hurt. Fun game and thanks a bunch to everyone who joined. I can't believe I actually got a 4 player game going in that. Hopefully there's a way to get it to run better.
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>>1611226
Ggs and thanks for hosting! Game is pretty fun and I started grasping how to play bit by bit now.

And yeah, ults can be achieved by mashing trigger shoot/attack after activating "extra" gauge, they actually helped me win in that last round.
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GGs everyone, thanks for hostan >>1611656. At no point did I know what I'm doing but it was fun nonetheless.
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>>1611661
Yeah I randomly lost a huge chunk of life from one of Marisa's supers. She reminds of that "random bullshit go!" meme.
I somehow called down a dragon as Sakura which was cool.

>>1611671
>At no point did I know what I'm doing but it was fun nonetheless.
To be fair I think Alice might require a bit of finesse to play because of her dolls.

I may do this again sometime!
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soku
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>>1613082
Yea
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>>1613389
ok host
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>>1613413
nta but i can play if that other anon is dead
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>>1613477
ok host
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>>1613482
45.134.142.210:10800
also up on the hostlist
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>>1613488
cant join
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>>1613488
>>1613637
oh nvm you got a gamer
im spectating watching you lose
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>>1613488
ggs
man I don't understand this game, and today's matches felt slow and unresponsive for some reason
when I'm defending and try to jump away, I get hit.
When I'm defending and I jump to attack, I get hit first
If I'm defending and I don't jump, I get hit by whatever And when I do get a change to hit... blocked
Something I was testing out in practice is that when jumping there are some frames which blocking doesn't work, which explains why I do get hit I'm trying to pressure someone and I jump cancel. But doesn't explain when they do the same thing as me (jump and attack) and it works for them.
Maybe I'm just slow
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>>1613683
Also I forgot to write that because of getting destroyed so often I developed an habit of holding 4 to try top block anything but I still get hit anyway.
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>>1613683
>I'm trying to pressure someone and I jump cancel.
I'm trying to pressure someone and I jump cancel. but they jump right into my face and I get hit"
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>>1613683
ggs, thanks for joining
>Something I was testing out in practice is that when jumping there are some frames which blocking doesn't work
yes, i think it's like 4-5 frames where you are completely open so chickenblocking isn't really viable, except in a few cases like against Alice

i can tell when you are trying to block and when you switch to constant aggression while defending. your problem isn't really that blocking isn't working, it's that you take too long to figure out how to get out. blocking basically puts you on a timer, because you only have until your orbs get depleted to escape and otherwise you eat a crush and another knockdown, and every wrongblock and every bullet you block makes that timer tick to zero. that's the time frame you have to escape, and if you go in the air it depletes even faster because now everything drains spirit

in that time you have to pick an option like BE, a system card, an invincible reversal, or even just mashing something quick like 4A. you can try to escape without using up any of those if you notice a big gap i'm unable to cover, but if you aren't sure then it's better to take one of the other options quickly rather than wait for too long till you have no time left. sure you might not always pick the best option, but with some more trial and error you'll figure out how to do it correctly more often than not. also don't forget 6BE and air BEs are options. and

>If I'm defending and I don't jump, I get hit by whatever And when I do get a change to hit... blocked
that's still a good thing, if i'm forced to block that means you have your chance to escape and go back to the center of the screen. not everything has to be about landing clean hits, if you get into a much better position and force me to block that's already a trade in your favor
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Someone host, I want to play
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>>1613777
vm reserved
just a quick session, I need to go to the gym
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>>1613782
ggs, nice fantasy heaven
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>>1613777
>>1613782
GGs
NOOOOOOOOOOOO THE FANTASY HEAVEN AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>hit bump limit 3x faster than the last thread
such strength
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>>1613915
all those posts are me btw
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>>1613915
4chan soku tournament SOON.
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>>1613915
Oh shit I didn't notice
HOLY FUCK SOKUUUUUU
I'll make a thread when this one hits page 10
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>>1613915
truly the 2hu multiplayer renaissance is upon us
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soku...
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>>1614606
can you wait a few minutes? Im coming home
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>>1614618
im in your home
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>>1614625
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>>1614628
well im gonna get groomed by different discord fighter gamers so too bad

later
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>>1614654
ah too bad
well Im already home and I'll be Around so if you still wanna play I'll be here
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>>1614684
NTA, but I'll steal.
vm reserved
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>>1614735
did it crash for you?
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>>1614784
frozen screen, relaunching now
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>>1614785
>>1614735
GGs
those victories made me regain hope that I can still play
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>>1614814
GGs. Tough fights against the other anons I take it? Relatable
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>>1614817
yeah I've been trashed a lot
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Soku gaming?
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>>1615235
How about in 10 hours after I come back from work sir?
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>>1615267
That's when I will be sleeping warmly, maybe if you can make it 1-2 hours earlier.
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>>1615235
sure i can play now
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>>702088959
>>702089336
Net microdied, hop back if you're up for more.
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>>1615797
Ggs, if I were american this miss would've been my 9/11... I started understanding bit by bit what "tight enough" means, I need to practice my 5A/6A->236 more as I somehow manage to fail them, lol.
>>1615553
Hop on 37.113.225.56:10800 for a bit if you're still up!
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>>1615885
GGs, thanks for hostan. Webm related would've got me 4 times out of 5, I just happened to notice your 5card seconds before. Reversals land better when your opponent doesn't have time to look at your deck. Or later in the set, to punish autopilot kicking in.
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>>1615553
Ggs! Two Illusionary Dominances with good damage landed, very happy.
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>>1616033
ggs
also landing the last hit of ID is tricky as hell for some reason. well done, was fun
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Someone host, please
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>>1616680
me but wait after I take a piss
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>>1616681
ok vm reserved
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>>1616685
GGs
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>>1616685
GGs
Nice tenko, extremely hard to kill but I got a win so I'm ok
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soku?
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>>1616735
ok but a short set
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>>1616745
host
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>>1616749
>>1616685
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>>1616753
i'm not sure that guy that joined is from here, but if it's gonna be a short set anyway just keep playing
i'll be around if someone else wants to play
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>>1616749
>>1616753
GGs
>>1616767
Oh wait it's not you?
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>>1616773
nope, i just spectated a couple games
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>>1616783
wanna play a short set then?
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>>1616784
sure but if you were gonna leave already then it's all good
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>>1616795
nah I can play 5 rounds more.
same as always
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>>1616799
GGs
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>>1616832
ggs
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Soku gaming?
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>>1618837
yeah
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>>1618844
Ok but only in like 20-30 minutes now.
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>>1618856
ok
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>>1618872
Alright hop on 37.112.171.40:10800 with giuroll!
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>>1618883
GGs
>last game
thypoon...
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>>1618901
Ggs! I hate reversals so much it's unreal. On the bright side, today I discovered nice continuation of small tornado card with tengu drum. It probably wouldn't limit even if I landed proper tengu drum follow-up, but damage numbers looking much better than usual Aya's combos.
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>>1618904
neat
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Not sure how fitting it would be here, but is anyone up for Danmaku!!? It is touhou card board game, that was digitalized with TableTopSim. But since it is TTS, we would need to either have it bought on steam, or pirate it and apply steamfix, both options would require playing via steam. It can be played with 4-8 people, the more people the more gameplay roles become available.
https://danmaku.party/
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>>1618929
i'm down, haven't played it in years but it's very fun so hopefully there's enough players
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I also made post in TTS thread just in case, so hope you don't mind people out of our exact cool kids club. >>1618918

>>1619031
Do you have TTS in steam, or should we get ready to pirate it?
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>>1619210
i do, i used to played in the TTS thread but i haven't seen them hosting in a while
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>>1613754
oh I'm so sorry I forgot to reply to this post
>it's that you take too long to figure out how to get out
Yeah it's due to both paranoia that somehow you will read my mind and guess what I'm going to do if I react to quickly, and pressing the wrong inputs because of pressure (also happens when I use the wrong spellcards, or at the wrong timing)
There's also the thing that if I play too fast too agressive I could make more mistakes.
>but with some more trial and error you'll figure out how to do it correctly more often than not.
Yes this is true, but also losing a lot made me pick some bad habits, so I 've been watching replays and playing against other beginners.


>if you get into a much better position and force me to block that's already a trade in your favor
I'm working on my movement, I tend to hold the flight button so I get hit by melee a lot
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>>1618929
can't
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soku?
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>>1619232
they've been in eternal recline, waiting for the big box...
but I'm glad someone else is interested in hosting it again after so long.
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>>1619253
something important is that whatever option you pick, you have to be confident enough to do it asap (unless you have a good reason to delay it intentionally of course). for example if i use a 66A and you block it correctly you have frame advantage on your side. but if you sit there and ponder even for a handful of frames whether it is safe to mash or not, you lose all those frames and now even if you press something while having the advantage you'll still get hit. instead, if you really preemptively think i'm going to keep attacking even while i shouldn't, then as soon as you see that right block you should be ready to mash 4A or whatever else. there's always a chance you're wrong and that will depend on your judgement, but if you are right then you will actually win that exchange. which is still better than losing even when you get it right

>so I 've been watching replays and playing against other beginners
that's always good, there's a ton of stuff you don't notice in the middle of a game but becomes clear afterwards. if anything you can get ideas you can then try out in an actual match
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>>1619281
More soku at 37.113.228.61:10800 with giuroll!
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>>1619364
GGs, thanks for hostan.
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>>1619489
Ggs, webmrel was a good one, you finally did it! And I think I finally did orb break from blockstring today, even though only once...
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>>1619492
Or did spinning doll actually kill me without being activated by trip wire? My god Alice is so confusing even on replays and even I've seen all her dollshit thousands times.
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>>1619499
> and even after I've seen*
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>>1619499
Yeah, the tripwire was wasted. Sadly (or luckily) it only activates the C dolls.
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>>1619505
Ah, I see now. It's just that you did exact same thing couple times before, sending spinning doll and activating tripwire, so I thought you've been trying to land tripwire like that lol.
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>>1619492
I want to burn those dolls in front of Alice so much fuck
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soku
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>>1619849
I'm down but I can't host.
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>>1620050
i can try hosting just give me a minute
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>>1620068
45.134.142.210:10800
giuroll + autopunch
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>>1620069
GGs, dumb game kept giving me aya. meiling and reimu
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>>1620153
ggs long time no see
i really need to figure out how to increase delay with giuroll, i feel like an extra frame would have been much better
>dumb game kept giving me aya. meiling and reimu
they felt like some of your stronger picks, i don't feel confident i could win with the mirror with any of those three
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>>1620158
>long time no see
Hi hi
>they felt like some of your stronger picks
I used to play them long ago but I'm just too rusty for them, especially Aya and Reimu
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soku?
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>>1620525
In like 15 minutes.
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>>1620533
ok
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>>1620538
Alright hop on 37.112.169.215:10800!
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>>1620551
GGs
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>>1620607
Ggs! Was that ascension kick you were trying to do on webmrel?
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>>1620612
no, that looks like a 6A
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>>1619729
Are you a bad enough dude to make that wish come true?
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>>1621074
*black enough
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page 10 soku?
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>>1621147
Yeah, hop on 37.112.169.215:10800 with giuroll!
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>>1621147
Ggs! Apparently I'm not the only one who can use tengu drum, lol. Also I'm now really fucking scared of ever fighting Patchy, even simple fireball spam is enough but she has so much more to it too... Though if she is deliberately picked, I can pick Okuu so it's probably not as bad.
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>>1621153
ggs, well played
>Apparently I'm not the only one who can use tengu drum, lol
yeah, that card can be a huge pain in the ass to deal with sometimes but my aim fucking sucks so i can't abuse it as much
just watch out for any invincible reversals in my hand and you're good to go
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more page 10 soku?
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>Please wait a while before making a thread.
>>1622532
page 11 soku?
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>>1622742
>>1622742
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