>standings reset
what

>>1545414
nullblobbing things

almost as gay as wormholes

>Amarr

>>1545250
wtf is a standings reset

>>1545753
its what happens to lowsec players who don't bend the knee to snuff

>>1545757
does this concern me, a wormhole fag?

>wormhole
fag

It's time to let go. EO will never again be good.

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>>1545753
In theory, it's various nullblobs resetting their standings to each others, thus breaking up into smaller groups instead of 2 giant coalitions.
In reality, it's literally nothing.

delete multiboxing
delete k-space
delete real time SP progression

>>1545952
oh. i see.

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Melt you with streams of heavy plasma pulse lasers

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>>1545753
null was essentially 2 alliances
they've announced a standings reset for after xmas.
means Frat, Goons, Horde, Russians and whoever the fuck is even still around will actually maybe shoot each other now.

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>>1545733

>>1546561
What it really means is just redoing the alliances back the way they were with few shuffles and kicking of inactives

>make everything so prohibitively expensive that wars can't be fought
>muh blue donut

Fight in cheap stuff then

why

because peace is much more profitable unless you have nothing to lose

>>1541932
Used the word correctly

why should i train past t1 if i'm not allowed to afford it

Have you tried not being poor?

>>1547229
You don't need to.
The only T2 stuff worth the money are T2 frigates (cheap as fuck), T2 destroyers (dictors in particular) also relatively cheap and some T2 cruisers (recons mostly) which aren't cheap but aren't too expensive either.

Oh and I guess Blockade runners/DSTs if you want to move things around and maybe JFs if you are really heavily into industry.

T2 BCs are lol, T2 BSs are lmao (unless you multibox 20 accounts in pochven) and T2 dreads are lol lmao.

>>1547260
>hasn't seen the prices of faction

>>1547229
If you can't afford a T2 cruiser, you should really be putting your efforts into figuring out why you're completely broke and how to make some money.

>>1547282
>400 million for t2 cruisers is fine
lol

>>1547763
literally only the monitor is that expensive you disingenuous retard
hacs are 250m

>>1547124
>because peace is much more profitable

Does Eve not even have a military industrial complex? I do not understand.

>>1545250
I like Amarr

>>1547846
Ships need time to be made. After big battles some ship types can completely disappear. And not only ships but modules, weapons too. This is especially true for heavy formats like a Nightmares. The null is also responsible for 80% of jita market. It is possible to have situation where you can't even buy a ship or fight an enemy fleet because you lost all existing ships available and now forced to fly trash format like a cyclones. Nullblocs have shit tons of resources only until big escalation. Frats lost Azariel (the most expensive ship in the game) with two faction titans (almost 3) recently. And now they don't drop them so casually to flex anymore. In Maila fight they didn't drop epic flex fleet only because there was one snuff FC on the grid.

>pick a bad fight with ships you can't replace
>lose
>shart, fart and cry crocodile tears at the devs to get free ships
nullgroids, not even once

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>come back after 10 years
>undock from a station in null with a badger loaded up with everything you own
>autopilot
>get popped
>"THIS IS THE THANKS I GET AFTER COMING BACK AFTER A DECADE? GOD FORBID I AUTOPILOT BECAUSE I WAS HELPING MY DAUGHTER WITH HER HOMEWORK HOLY FUCK THE DEVS ARE RETARDED"

I had a dream again, that I've got lost in hostile nullsec jumping and trying to dock to stations, I felt space darkness and void and it was good yet frightening. Launched the game six years ago last time

Eve echoes start restricting PI farm to omega only to combat botting farm. Now, is it impossible for f2p to grind isk for plex.

>>1547976
>Eve echoes
What is that?

>>1547993
Eve for phoneposters.

>>1548066
How horrifying. Did CCP entrap a large audience with it? How many has it brought suffering?

>>1547880
Nah. Big null alliances basically have infinite capital ships to drop. They just don't want to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcHUJkuQyLI

This is just the first few hours of the moveop.

>>1548087
Not CCP tho. Netease. Although CCP did released Eve for phone that was more slop than Netease one. Eve Echoes bled too much players after they released insurance system that give the ship you lost back instead of just isk.

>>1548180
Well okay then. That certainly looks terrible.

>>1547880
>null is also responsible for 80% of jita market.
lol, lmao even

You didn't miss out on Winter Blood matte skin right?

>>1548159
It looks infinite until they start dying. Dread fun will be back on the menu again soon.

>Dread
>fun
choose one

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Manly ship for manly man. Not some subcap tranny toy.

not manly

Get the fuck out of here Raikiri.

>>1545250
Current method of multiboxing alphas?

You can still make new toons on an account, but i'd prefer to reuse the same toons if possible.

I've been using Hyper-V to have 4 virtual machines on Win10 running Win10 to do quad praxis rollers, but it's crazy ram intensive and requires GPU passthrough which is annoying.

Any way to get sandboxie to work?

>>1549392
Reject multi boxing
One account, one screen, just as dog intended

>>1549422
imagine fucking rolling a wormhole with a single account.

6 battleship passes, and a hic pass.

yeah, no thanks. the game is made to drain you of funds by requiring multiboxing, it is what it is.

>he doesn't roll with friends
ngmi

>>1549425
That's only miserable because other people multiboxing can do it in fewer attempts. If everyone had to put up with it, it wouldn't feel so bad to roll only when you had a group of other people on.

I roll with friends and usually don't have a problem except when I'm trying to prep a system for them ahead of time.

>>1549509
I just used rolling as a random example. I do roll sometimes, but being able to have eyes in multiple constellations is also super useful, as well as logging in alpha spy toons whilst having a main online too.

remove wh rolling

>>1549534
This

>people complaining that rolling wormholes isn't "fun" withour gorillions of alts
>i'm wondering that niggas actually roll wormholes with their real life minutes and real hands

>>1545757
snuff is dead, all their good pilots left a long time ago

>>1549534
but why

>>1549425
>imagine fucking rolling a wormhole with a single account.
oh no, 15 minutes a hole while I watch tv on the other monitor. however will i recover from this.
imagine unironically going through all this bullshit >>1549392. just stop being poor and/or get friends.

Theres no excuse for wormholers with only one account. Go back to kspace.

>>1549534
this. its so fucking annoying.

>>1549772
what
why

>null static connects to Great Wildlands
>log off for the day because lmao dead space
Yeah great job removing rolling, faggots.

>>1549425
>imagine fucking rolling a wormhole with a single account.
friends anon
you're supposed to do it with friends

>>1549794
its an annoying chore that makes me do math
now you might say
"lol why are you playing eve if you dont like annoying chores that make you do math" and my answer to that is "fuck you"

>>1549963
>>1549794
just stop being a pussy and dont waste time closing holes
>but waaaah muh 9bil marauder fit
thats on you for being a fag

>>1550049
never flown a marauder in my life
get on my level

>>1549963
jesus, wormholers these days. you dont need to do the math. hot passes until its massed, then cold hots until it closes or a hic if it crits. always works.

Is All-Out even accepting people?

>>1550246
All-Out is dead. The "All-Out is recruiting" is a meme. If you are looking for a corp just join a null one.

>>1550246
yes

>>1550249
kill yourself

>>1550246
Unironically, yes, join all-out

null sec corp
null sec corp
null sec corp

I want some thing more exotic, a low sec militarized isogen mining conglomerate.

>>1550662
>Mining
>Lowsec

CCP tried it already. It didn't work. Lowsec is the worst possible place to mine.

>>1550666
>Move valuable ore to one of the most dangerous security bands in the game
>Don't change mining ships in any way, leaving them defenseless and free kills who's only option to combat is to warp out and dock up when a neutral enters the system
>Be surprised when no one mines in a place where a fleet of T3C can be cyno'd in cheaply and easily

CCP is worse than completely retarded, they're incompletely retarded. They have an occasional good idea and just do fuck all with it, then run it back and ruin it.

>>1550666
idk bigab seems to mine a lot in ls just fine

>>1550942
BIGAB and SNUFF are probably the only ones in lowsec who can pull off larger mining operations since they actually have enough force to respond to anyone trying to fuck with them. Rest of lowsec is out of luck.
And as was mentioned, it's not like it wasn't tried before. The data ever since the ore redistribution is right there in all the previous MERs. Lowsec was consistently bottom tier in terms of mining, resulting in several bottlenecks. It's just too hostile for any proper mining ops except for the aforementioned big entities.

>mining

>>1550793
This is the most cry baby, wingy, retarded post I've seen in a long time, you should consider killing yourself

>>1547260
I disagree with your post, basically all t2 slop is worth it for the price. HAC's are a staple of any grid whether it be small gang or blob, especially after the buff. T2 BS's have one of the strongest ship classes in the game, marauders, and T2 BC's are incredibly strong in their own right. Would you take 5 ac kite hurricanes in your hanger, or 1 ac kite sleppy? the answer is always the slep unless you're a lowseccer or are bad at the game and feed a lot.

>>1549863
what nss guilds even exist in tyool 2024(soon 2025)

>>1551038
>Data shows no one mines in lowsec
>Move more valuable minerals there to drive up the price and get people to do it
>Still no one mines in lowsec
You can throw a tantrum all you want, but it doesn't change the data. CCP found increasing the value alone doesn't help drive activity because said activity is still next to impossible to do at scale compared to null/HS.

>>1551017
The other problem is that even large groups, like Domain Mining and Research Inst/PHeW, that control large swathes of lowsec literally don't even bother utilizing the space to mine. There's a huge section of Derelik that PHeW sits in that has tons of easy access (For the controlling party) sites that go unharvested because lolmining.

Mining further has the problem that the activity is self regulating--the more people doing it, the more the prices drop, and as prices drop less people go out to mine. That means that getting cheap ships is next to impossible in an organic economy which reduces the amount of people willing to PvP. Hence CCP pushing minerals back to null, which can multibox/bot in safety to prop up the economy.

CCP wants to tout a fully player driven economy but they don't want to deal with the ramifications of it, so they find ways to inject more resources into it which runs off anyone trying to go legit. It's just not worth doing unless a computer is doing it for you or you can run your own fleet.

>>1551045
why would they mine when they can buy more minerals with the isk they can farm from L5s etc than they could mine without plexing dozens of mining-specific accounts that take an age to pay themselves off.

face it, mining is just not worth it and thats with the supposedly huge bottlenecks.

>CCP spreads all resources across all regions, each part of space receiving its corresponding mineral
>the most dangerous one to mine becomes the most expensive
That's how it's supposed to work you fucking retard. The shortage is a feature not a bug.

>>1551048
I'm agreeing with that, mining isn't worth it because there's mining at scale done with dozens of accounts that injects far too many minerals into the system. Individuals might as well not even compete and go do something else.

If that's to ever change, CCP needs to first accept that ships will become very expensive and people will stop taking risks (Which happened during scarcity) and second, change up mining so that mass multiboxing and botting is no longer feasible. The first will never happen because when people clutch their assets too much, they stop playing the game. The second will never happen because all of those accounts generate money for CCP. Therefore, mining is cooked.

>>1551041
>Would you take 5 ac kite hurricanes in your hanger, or 1 ac kite sleppy?

5 hurricanes every time, n+1 triumphs all.
>kite
Oh nevermind. Have fun sitting it that ESS for 2h with nobody coming to deal with your cancerous garbage and then fillamenting out.

>that control large swathes of lowsec literally don't even bother utilizing the space to mine
>people who live in designated pvp area would rather PVP than click on rocks and F1
Sky is blue and water is wet.

so butthurt

>the tuskers

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>n+1 triumphs all
>btw if you use any tactics to deal with our superior n+1 you're cancer

>remove scarcity
>game is fixed
wow, so fucking hard

stop fucking whining about fucking scarcity

no removing scarcity wouldnt fix the game
you should be mad at ccp for intentionally ruining their game in the first place with the two years of rorqs online we had
its not a coincidence that we got skill extractors at the same time that rorqs became ridiculous fucking mining machines

>>1551093
rorqs being an issue doesn't mean scarcity is fine

>>1551096
scarcity is unironically fine and required because we had unchecked rorq proliferation for so long

of course, those nullbabs built enough 30b titans to ruin the game for years to come
fuck ccp

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>>1551073
>5 hurricanes every time, n+1 triumphs all.
I get that you're probably being purposely disingenuous, but if you would reread the post you would see its 5 canes in your hanger, not distributed out among your closest friends.
>Oh nevermind. Have fun sitting it that ESS for 2h with nobody coming to deal with your cancerous garbage and then fillamenting out.
? AC kiting fits are generally 50mn, this is due to the speed needed in order to properly skirmish. Seeing as you are probably a newbro I'm gonna give you a fit with relevant stats in this screenshot(You can downgrade to a t1 skirm link if you dont have the sp, but then I'd drop the te for another nano), you should try it out as its a solid stepping stone to get better at the game mechanically.

I used to think the same way when it came to the value of ships, why would I pay ~500m for a sleppy when a ~100m cane is perfectly useable? Eventually though, you stop feeding every time you undock and you start to realize why having a substantially tankier, faster, higher dps, higher range ship with 2 giga strong links and extra mid utility is a good thing. You can hold grids you wouldn't otherwise be able to stay on, you can kill shippies that you wouldn't otherwise be able to kill, your engagement profile gets widened so much.

scarcity wasn't real

>>1551101
which employee are you?

>AC kiting

>>1551113
*click approaches u*

>shippies

intellectually dominated

> pyfa warrior

eft user

cheaper ships stop being cost effective when there's strong active tanking and logi

just bring more buddies

nobody here has any friends

>>1551091
yes n+1 trumps all when it comes to stuff that actually matters

ESS is literally the ONLY place in the game where you can do your "high-skill" kitey cancer bullshit and nobody gives a shit about that

kill yourself you dumb nigger faggot retarded cunt

>>1551141
>ESS is the only place where you can kite

>>1551142
>ESS is the only place where you can kite
This. Unironically.

I wasn't aware every area of space in the game was the ESS

>"high-skill"
why so hostile

>>1551159
why is that

>>1551163
Because
>unzipps combat probes
Time to probe ur anus

>nullbabs
>combat scanning
lmao

>>1551141
>Sov warfare matters
No one actually believe this, buddy. Especially not your leaders.

>>1551186
u just mad cuz u no have sov
sour gapes

imagine being homeless

>not living in 4-4

why people say skill farming is dead

just trade your injectors for 100m more than they're worth on the market, its literally that easy.

>have stuff to sell
>exit is in Kador
>51 jumps through hughsec, but only 7 if I go through Abhazon
>yeah okay, I'll just go scout with my covops
>see this
NEVERMIND, I'll get a better exit tomorrow.

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>>1551373
Of course I forgot to append the actual image of the gate.

>>1551376
are you reinvigorated yet?

Just sell in Amarr

>>1551399
The price is way lower in Amarr, I'm not selling there.

>never really got into EVE
>bored over holidays so decide to reinstall
>account last logged in 7 years ago
>was doing some nooby whexplo stuff nothing more than c3 when i last logged out i think at a corp station in jspace
>log in and im in some weird triangle base, i cant undock because it says i have 3 of the same fitting, i cant unfit because i dont have 1.0 standing with some triangle alien dudes
wellp

>>1551905
you used to get moved to your home station if you were logged out in space in a wormhole for a few months
i guess your home station at some point was robbed by the triangle men

make a ticket kek

How much tank does a Widow need for Angels DED sites in low sec?

>Not scorpion

>>1551905
F12 for a GM and ask to be relocated with your stuff back to highsec.
Basically, since you were gone some triangle alien dudes invaded and stole 27 star systems from us, including a few highsec systems.
If you dont have anything there that you dont need immediately you can always set home station to highsec and pod yourself back as well. You can always go back for your stuff later pretty easily.

bros, I'm starting to think gudfites aren't actually real

>>1552892
wtf is a "gudfite"

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UGHHHHHHHHHH my corp is conglomerating the two wormholes into the one that IM NOT FUCKING IN
what a fucking painnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

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>mobile depot calling Putin a pig placed next to a gate

>>1554320
>my corp is conglomerating the two wormholes into the one that IM NOT FUCKING IN
guess that sound like you've just scored yourself a free wormhole.
congrats anon. just plop a pos and move your shit into that, let the fags move into another hole.

I logged into eve online today after 4 years to realize my alpha character has barely any skills learned and no money because some dude killed me when I was hauling ALL my stuff towards another system and I quit
I learned now alpha accounts can queue skills so I queued 90 days of skills and uninstalled
my plan was to skill up towards getting a Talos on this account and make a second account to play a scythe healing me up and just enjoy mindless pve for a little bit
I've also googled around and learned your alpha account has a maximum of SP you can learn and then it gets locked so you can't even experience everything, pretty bummed out about it, I think they would benefit from letting alphas accounts be a bit stronger

>>1554455
You don't even play the game

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>>1554430
Such is life in the cuckold cope zone.

>>1554477
maybe it is the reason?

>>1554540
If you think like what you posted then it's good that you don't play the game.

>>1554579
> it's good
for you

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>mfw not logging in

>>1554583
Yes

>>1554587
but it doesn't mean good for the game

>>1554597
Yes it does

>>1554599
no it works in reverse actually
if a game in bad state and listening to opinions of players left, you should always act in opposite, since these players agree with current state and are shit eaters basically

>>1554703
agreed
scarcity is shit
>lets add more scarcity
crypto games are shit
>lets create more cryptoscam games

>scarcity is shit
how

>>1554751
its fun flying in and fighting with ships

then you can fight over resources

>thinks scarcity is about resources

>

Scarcity is unironically good. It makes valuable ships valuable and not something you can just build and yeet willy-nilly.
The problem is, scarcity is something that should have been there FROM THE START instead of a bandaid for Rorqual era. People got used to yeeting whatever they wanted in rorqual era and of course they are gonna feel like shit after you decide to fix it. The other problem is that the rorqual era was even only possible because of injectors which they only made so they could pump the game stocks for PA. Which they spent fixing ever since.
Another episode of short-term greed ruining long-term lifetime. Something that literally EVERYTHING is infected by these days.

don't care it's still good

>valuable ships
>t2 cruisers
>valuable

retard

>>1554850
The main problem with scarcity is that without dynamic conflicts it just causes people to turtle up harder and protect the now fewer resources they still have access to. Scarcity needed to happen and should have been even scarcer but paired with some additional mechanics to enhance the effect, namely cutting the problems at the stem by clipping the long nose of eve, the JF

capitals can be valuable
sub-caps naa

>>1554454
yeah no man im not retarded

>>1554579
all I want is alpha accounts to be able to train all the skills they have available instead of having a cap

I want a cheaper account status that is omega but cannot train anything

>>1555113
That would either raise the extraction limit to 20 mil or it would shit up the economy with all the free SP coming in.

>>1555153
well, they should think of alphas as the gateway for new players to try the game and remove everything that old players can extract from them by managing 100 alpha accounts

Delete alphas, return to free trial accounts

>>1555158
If you can't figure out if you want to play during the months of free playing then you simply don't like the game and shouldn't play.

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>>1555113
if you struggle to do shit with 20 fucking million SP then you need to git gud.
if you struggle to pay the price of a pint of beer for a subscription then you need to sort out your fucking life

Just took a look at one of my alpha characters.
>Stuff that can be trained to decent/good level
Engineering (Can actually get a lot of good skills to V so fitting stuff shouldn't be too much of an issue compared to omega, no Reactive armor and repair paste skills for alphas though)
Gunnery (Can train support skills to IV and get access to all standard T2 small and medium guns)
Shields (Decent shield skills and access to all non-capital T2 shields)
Missiles (Can only train support skills to III but can still get access to T2 rockets, light, heavy and heavy assault missiles)
Drones (No access to T2, but can still use 5 drones and has access to a decent level of drone support skills, some to III some to IV)

>Stuff that can be trained to subpar/meh level at best
Spaceship Command (Can get most subcap ships to IV which is alright but that's about it)
Rigging (Can get all skills to III which isn't too bad but also not too good)
Navigation (most skills can only be trained to III, no fuel conservation, but the thing that hurts the most is that evasive maneuvering is also capped at III, that sucks)
Electronic Systems (can only train basic skills, access to T2 tracking disruptors, webs and scrams, no support skills)
Scanning (No pinpointing, rest is capped at II or III which kinda sucks)
Targeting (No access to sensor compensation, so you will end up getting jammed much more easily, range and lock speed skills capped on III)
>Stuff that is almost completely or completely inaccessible
Trade (justified, wouldn't want trade moguls to have even more trade slots)
Production (justified, wouldn't want industry moguls to have even more slots for stuff)
Resource Processing (No point in having them available since alphas can't fly barges anyways)
Planet management (Justified otherwise PI would go to shit due to the autistic niggers who would have 10000 PI alpha alts, even if you were to allow only 1 planet with no upgrades)

not reading that

>>1556084
I'll summarize it for you. Lack of navigation skills sucks and keeps you from doing anything particularly useful. I've got an alpha clone I sometimes go out and be a tacklecuck with and it sucks when you're in an Atron and the snaked faggot in his stabber can go almost as fast as you can.
Not to mention you literally can't use an interceptor and are stuck with T1 frigs which pop instantly the moment anyone looks wrong at them.
What you can do in pvp as an alpha is act as the generic +1 fps or you can get into a T1 support cruiser and use remote repairs.
The other route is to rely on hulls with high role bonuses like the Gila, but you want both racial cruiser skills at 4 and then each weapon system as high as you can get it. The 5 mil alpha clone limit can barely fit all that so you're basically making highly specialized characters that can only be used for one thing.
As just a trial for people to take a look at the game and then decide if they want to play it for real, it's an okay system. Lets you see what everything is like, but you can't really do much.

Guys what if, and bear with me here, WHAT IF CCP removed the orbit, keep range, approach and align commands and you had to fully manually fly your ship all the time you are not in warp? No more "orbit FC at 5km and press F1" nonsense, EVERYONE has to fly manually and keep range and transversal in mind constantly. Do you think that would kill, or at least reduce blobbing? Good fleets for kiting and stuff would actually need everyone in them to manually fly in sync to achieve maximum potential and not get caught.

>>1556565
ok why

>>1556565
It would enhance blobbing because the only sure way to ignore tracking is to blob which makes tracking irrelevant, you can't orbit 2 people at once. It would also nerf kiting which encourages to just sit still and press F1

>>1556565
The game is already barely useable in tidi, this would make it straight up shit itself.
The game gets even more broken than advertised when tidi goes over a certain amount which translates into a defensive advantage. This would take that problem and make it a dozen times worse.

>>1556565
Keep the ideas rolling CCP.

>>1556565
That's how Eve 2 should be. Oh and ships have projectile collision like in the blockhain Eve

>>1556565
don't implement this on the whole server, make a system-wide space weather which jams those commands

>>1555816
even the price of a pint of beer is too much for such piece of shit
and you have to pay monthly and look how the game is getting worse and worse

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>>1555816
>$20 beer
or should that be $40 beer given you need mandatory two accounts to do anything besides braindead nullblobbery

Eve 2 (not EF) will fix the skill system (by removing all skills).

If you are giving money to CCP in any way, including grinding ISK for pay piggies, you are part of the problem btw

>>1556618
>Oh and ships have projectile collision like in the blockhain Eve
Missiles had that when Eve first launched and it was terrible.
>Missile clips something it should
>Get concorded

>>1557107
based
unfortunately cucks will always exist

>maller
reported

imagine being so shit and poor you have to grind for omega irl on ingame

>>1556618
EF unironically has a lot of cool ideas. Too bad it's cryptoscam for poos and other thirdies and CCP is too cucked and pussified to implement the improvements into EO

why so dead
tell about your wh adventures

>go into wh space
>dead as fuck
>return to proper space

>>1554455
you should not play the game

>>1560440
POE2

>>1560517
but it is even worse
slow rollslop and beta

>>1560440
>go into WH
>unload moon goo and ice
>load interdictors
>take them to Jita for sale
That's about it

>>1560769
> take them to Jita for sale
how

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>>1560801
With an Occator

>>1560801
get lucky with an uncontested exit to Caldari space

#Punished

convince me to log in

>>1560914
500 goons camping the undock quick log on we need max dudes, undocking in 5min

>>1560914
500 horde camping the undock quick log on we need max dudes, undocking in 5min

>>1560914
5 small gangers tackled an orca quick log on we need max dudes, undocking in 5min

Did CCP pay nullblob leadership to start the retarded play fights?

probably

how high will skill extractors go

ccp better not make any more sales until i need a refill

>>1560914
And stop denying content? That's how they win

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Alright, fess up. Which one of you faggots is the Grand Pisswizard?

>"elite" traders
>getting completely annihilated by randoms making small market orders for the "wrong" price

whomst are u quoting

Eve classic launch when?
For me its 2006-2010

>>1562431
No Thank You.

>>1561958
Dare you enter his magical realm?

>>1562431
when people say they miss old Eve they mean they just miss being an F1 monkey in a Drake or being able to fit a 1600m plate to a Hurricane.

>>1563061
you can still do both of those

We need Eve 2 by a competent studio, not some regurgitated junk.

Peak eve was around 12-13 btw when the tiericide effort started and player numbers were at their highest (no big surprise). My only hope for this game at this point is a rerun of what happened during and after Incarna: massive community outrage over CCP's retardation (greedy monetisation effort at that time, maybe Vanguard and EF flopping will trigger this this time) and resulting reinvigorated development effort that led to the golden period.

I don't really have my hopes up, really. Anyone who wants a deep competitive PVP game probably plays other games already and the remaining population is casual boomers who are content with their space themed chat program and paying CCP for status signaling MTX to peacock around their fake space social circle.

eve 2 already exists and it's called eve echoes, it does everything better than eve online and multiboxing is FREE
>b-b-but muh m-m-mobile
shut up chump, every mmo nowadays will come with mobile features because no one wants to sit down to do the boring stuff when they can do it laying down in the bed

>mobile

eve online gameplay is literally made for mobile, there's no skill to the game, it's just clicking through menus, tapping through menus is the same

Do you guys filament solo and pvp whatever you find? I aint got no friends :(

yes

>>1563338
make some

I can't think of anything more cucked than filamenting to null for PvP. Think about it logically: You are spending time putting together a ship so you can fly around aimlessly and fill the role of NPC pirate just so nullbears can have a little entertainment at your expense. You are spending time and money doing something an AI does for free.

>>1563575
Same, if you think about it logically the most supreme form of PvP is lvl 4 mission with a Navy Issue Apocalypse

>so nullbears can have a little entertainment at your expense
other way around m8 lol

>>1563228
>it does everything better than eve online
Bold statement.

>>1563338
join FW
plenty of rando friends to kill stuff with and there's always a gud fite around

fw is shit

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>Dogs sniff, wolves hunt -brutor elder

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Shut up nigger.

>>1564594
correct
join null and find a group that does what you want

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So here's the question: Should I sell all my extracted SP, or should I use it to inject more dread alts?

>>1565431
sell it. train more dread alts naturally.

>>1565532
It costs about 20b to inject a dread alt, compared to about 18b in plex to slow train it, so it's rarely worth slow training.

>>1565919
>18b to train 10m sp
its six months with +4s. six months omega is not 18b lol

>>1565926
It's closer to 15m SP.
Plex is about 3b a month last I checked.

>>1565929
only if you're so poor both irl and ingame that you buy 1 month at a time
if you buy six months you save an assload

>>1565938
What the fuck are you talking about
I mean buying plex with isk.

>>1565939
yes? you buy plex with isk and then go to the NES and buy six months omega with your plex. saving an assload over buying 1 month six times.

Why are people so buttmad about EF crypto? Eve already had basically buttcoin GPU mining (rorquals).

crypto is gay

>>1566075
>Why are people so buttmad about EF crypto?
because they keep wasting dev time and money on fucking side projects no-one asked for instead of just working on Eve

Good morning saars. Do the needful and redeem space crypto gomutra

which industry skills go together
mining/reprocessing
production/?
reactions/?

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>>1567713
Reactions -> scrap metal reprocessing for unrefined reactions specifically -> production (for T2 components) -> invention -> T2 ships
In that exact order. Assuming you're going for ships. If you want to go for modules, you don't need T2 components.
You can also ignore refining because it's off remap, but not having it means you either don't do unrefined or you have someone refine it for you.
>mining
that's for bots.
>refining
Okay that one isn't obvious but it's for capitals. The reason you get refining is because hauling minerals sucks, so you want to buy compressed ore and then refine it on site where you want to build. And the ships that consume such a vast volume of minerals are capitals.
If you're building subcaps, you can probably get away with just bringing in raw minerals and don't need refining. Your bigger problem is going to be moving the ships our rather than bringing materials in.

>>1567730
i don't have enough accounts to go full time industrialist, doubt i would go fully down the chain, probably just sell intermediates/components

>>1567742
I only have 2 accounts and they aren't used optimally anyway.
That's 60 of each slot you get to have (66 if you insist) which lets you build the full chain of just about anything.
Even one account for a total of 30 slots is big enough for anything short of jump freighters.
The important part is that you have to get reactions first because reactions are the bottleneck which means that's where most of the money is. Once you do have reactions and understand what sells how, it will become obvious where you want to go up the chain. Not necessarily to add value, but rather to offload your profitable reactions materials easier.
Selling, for example, an Ares or Claw is a lot either than selling Neo Mercurite which can sit on the market for days or weeks.
But if you just want to turn your brain off and pile up shekels, you make reinforced carbon fiber from scratch and dump it on the market, it's a low volume high value item that sells quickly in vast quantities.

>>1567749
thanks bro

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m8s is this the end

Props are so useless on armored Amarr ships, that you'd rather sometimes consider not fitting one, and use that pg on guns or neut.

>>1569644
Why do I need speed when I have the power God on my side.

>retards are selling reactions at a loss
these fuckers are making it impossible for me to sell, guess i'll just wait a month or two

>>1569644
spoken like someone who's never flown an Omen Navy

does the worm do more damage with missiles or drones? same question for the gila.

>>1570673
Drones, though it can be close for the Worm. Drones are just overall easier to work with, however.

The Alligator and Mamba though do somewhat more with missiles, and with the limited low slots means problems with "split bonuses"--it's hard to optimize damage for both. Just looking at them, I'd almost say treat them as a Corax or Drake that just happens to do a shitton of drone damage, but that would assume anyone would fly them.

>>1570675
and the Gila?

>>1570676
Still drones, moreso than the Worm. Your limited missile slots will struggle to make up the difference between an effective count of 12 medium drones.

>>1570677
I made an alpha for fun with the intent of doing abyss with a Worm, maybe make more alphas and VMs and trying t3, it's probably not fun, I'd like to see it work tho.

>>1570680
I made one specifically to fly a Gila since I live in a wormhole and don't always have time to bother going back to k-space and running or worry about having to autopilot back to the wormhole if I explode. I can do T4 abyss with it mostly fine, though some attempts are pretty narrow (Note though, my Gila is cheap-ish, like 400m ISK. I don't have a lot in implants either.). The character also has basically maxed Worm skills too, which clears T1 abyss pretty rapidly and safely.

My advice is temper your expectations on advancement if you stay alpha. You can still make some ISK doing it, especially nearly risk-free in a T1 with a Worm, but you'll eventually start to feel like you're spinning your tires after a while since you can't exactly climb to the level of T5/T6 ISK printing. No idea if it would work better with a Worm fleet for T2/T3 abyss.

>>1570681
what is better, rockets and orbiting close to stuff or light missiles and orbiting 15km from stuff?

>>1570686
Missiles unless you need the DPS. Missiles start hitting earlier, they let you keep range against things like rogue drone battlecruisers you wouldn't be able to get close enough for rockets anyway, and mean you won't lose half your DPS because something moves quicker than your AB Worm. Rockets are the territory you cross when you go too high in tier and need the extra DPS to finish on time.

>>1570691
Ok, I was going to go for rockets because I assumed speedtanking at low orbit would be good plus the extra dps is always welcome

>>1570673
drones by far, the missiles are just a nice little extra.
a good worm fit does 300dps no problems

>>1570694
The thing is, you can still speed tank with missiles over rockets, but there's things you have to kite as well. The aforementioned battlecruisers are one of them, and things like the Skybreaker you probably won't be fast enough to catch. Where rockets come in handy are the DPS race rooms, things like the sleepers and drifters or the drone battleship, otherwise they're a DPS loss due to being out of range sometimes.

For ships with range bonuses to their missile systems, Rockets get better because you be at 20km+ and still hit with them. Anything that's going to out speed you will still probably fight within that range, so them being faster won't matter. Hawks can be good like that, as can the more simple Kestrel or complex Jackdaw.

>pve

>>1570673
Missiles and drones are both slow weapon systems, if you ever get into fleet pvp on a worm, you'd want missiles for their faster application.

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>fleet pvp
>worm

Believe it or not people have favorite ships and they try to make them work in any situation possible.

In Eve Echoes, Drone is ironically the strongest weapon in PVP due to one of the implant that give it not just one, but 2 high burst damage that can strip both shield and armor in 2 volley.

>>1570839
I played that game all day every day for 30 days when it came out, I farmed like 1500 on 4 different accounts and made a 5th account for industry with like 300 plex and all skill point upgrades on all of them
then I stopped playing the game because running all those vms was a pain in the ass in this old pc, I'll give the game a try again after I build my new pc next month, hope it's not dead

>>1570824
The Guristas ships are pretty great for fleet PvP because their drones do so much damage and have zero problems applying to smaller ships at close engagement ranges, only problem is when hostile fleets know what you're about and start deploying smartbombs to fuck with you. Like a fleet of Gilas are going to chew up a lot of non-battleship fleets, especially if they have logistics or ewar support.

so with alpha accounts you have a max of 5m SP and if you use any code or claim SP in any way it'll fill that 5m max, but if you train 5m in skills and then use that stuff you'll get a super alpha clone, right?

Should I RMT my character with 200m SP?

>>1572244
you should be cashing out of this dying game, yeah

>>1572219
You can train at half rate up to 5m SP, but you can still use daily alpha injectors, the bonus 1m SP from recruitment, or AIR daily to go up to 20m SP. After 20m SP, you can't inject things even if you have free SP.

Probably the optimal play is to create an alpha account, queue up 5m SP worth of skills, and them train naturally before cashing out the recruitment SP. You'll still burn some AIR daily SP before you reach that point, but it won't make much of a difference. Once you hit 5m SP, make another character on the account and queue up another 5m SP worth of skills to train that too.

If you keep playing and doing the AIR dailies, you'll eventually reach a point where you basically have every alpha friendly skill you can have. I would recommend saving some free SP for omega-only skills depending on what you may want to do with the account, such as keeping 500k on float to fill in level 4 PI skills or inject straight to a T2 ship for when you do sub.

>>1572304
thanks

>>1572219
It will take months to reach 5mil sp, if you don’t know whether you want to go omega at that point then you should just drop the game.

Just joined pandemic, spent a literal month waiting and going back and fourth with brave because my first account that i lost the email too in 2013 is in my contacts list. Explained to them 10 times i cant recover it because i cant remember the email. Got in contact with ccp and they told me unless you remember the email we cant help you. Literally spent that whole time in jita with all my assets sold spinning my ship. Applied to pandemic and they got me in right away. That ordeal with brave really showed me there's some fucking spergy ass people who take the game way to seriously. If i wanted to have a spy alt i wouldnt have it in my contacts list.

do corp standings fuck your personal standings, or does it take whichever is better?
like if a character has good standings with caldari but the corp has bad standings, are you gonna be paying more tax in jita?

>>1572988
To NPC corps, only your personal standings matter.

>>1570824
honestly the Worm's weakness in PVP is its not that fast, so anything it can kill can usually just fucking leave.
Its a ship that's shit unless your target's retarded, afk or you drop 3bil into a set of snakes

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>>1570833
This, it just so happens that my waifu (the Typhoon) is usually the best ship for a lot of applications.
I'm glad that people think its shit because it means itll be at least another 5-10 years before it gets nerfed.

>>1572219
you can get an alpha up to 20mil by redeeming stuff.
pretty sure the play is that you wait until you hit 5mil THEN redeem the card.
worst case, doing your dailies makes 385,000SP/month plus every 2 months the isk from dailies pays for a Daily Alpha Injector for another 50,000SP.

You can play an Alpha for 4 years before you eventually hit the wall and need to pay up, or you just stay as an Alpha chad and not give a shit about mining and missions

>>1572916
This is funny because it's Pandemic that has the forums that have hidden watermarks when you're logged in so they can figure out who leaks stuff and various other tools. They don't give a shit about alts.
Brave is just amateurish.

>>1573405
Your waifu is fat

>>1573489
Thats the way to do it though. Thats actually effective. Going "whos this random alt you havent activated in twelve years, we need his ESI to go forward with your application" isnt. I have a literal 5 long email chain of the recruiter just asking me about what the 50 member high-sec mining corp im part of does.

"Why is this player in our corp set as red to you?"
Cause hes a serial ganker
"Why is this member of your corp on our blacklist?"
No fucking clue
"Where did you shit on November the 18th 2016?"

>>1573494
may be fat but speedtanks very well while doing 1200dps

was thinking here, worm, dramiel or succubus for abyss?
worm is the strongest but I worry about having to micromanage drones, if I can do the content with a turret shit, why bother with drones.
then the succubus is very fast which is always fun and improves your defenses but is played at super low range
then the dramiel looks the best, probably does the same as the succubus but without 80% sonic speed buff

>>1572304
>>1573408
yeah, I'll just make 3 accounts, queue 100 days of skills, do the tutorial missions and soe arc to pay for skill books and come back in april

>>1573571
That's honestly what I did for several of my characters. I have around 20 alpha accounts that I use for different things: Abyss, FW, wormhole ratting, etc. Post them all in a rookie system long before you want to use them, queue up a skillplan that'll last forever, then do the AIR dailies as much as you can stand. It will never be as good as an omega account specialized in something, but you'll never have to move a character around to do content and you can always sub it when you get more serious.

>>1573577
the plan was to do abyss and multibox them in vms, because I think that's the most profitable pve alphas can do, right?
still thinking about the fleet config, worms, succubi, one logi, idk

>>1573583
Worms are good for alphas because getting T2 light drones is still possible, but I'd honestly just say go with a Gila. It can climb to a higher tier of abyss and is easier to work with than multiboxing Worms, plus you don't have to mess with VMs or anything. Still not as good as just joining incursions though, which tends to dwarf everything in rate of pay though you do have to run on someone else's schedule.

>>1573569
I assume you want to do T1 abyss?

>crawling on glass for months in order to save a nickel
Just train a frigate skill and scanning and filament to null and do relic sites. Once you omega get a frig skill and archaeology to V. Now that you’re self sufficient go actually try to have fun and group up with people

i'm in a null blob but how fuckin retarded do you have to be to give a fuck about spies
there's nothing worth spying on anymore

>>1573933
Only because all the previous spies

>>1573877
> do relic sites
super boring
super dangerous

i have tried to do gas missions in sisters system once (back in 2016?) but got scanned and killed, despite eccming to max
maybe it was the rat shooting at me who was scanned? can you scan rats?

>>1573877
>want to hava fun? Just no-lifevand plex your account
>>1573949
Dont listen to him, do what you like. Every avenue has a low skill, low cost entryway. As someone who used to plex 3 accounts you cant aim for that if you're not willing to spend 4-5 hours a day, everyday playing eve. So dont. Just accept that you're paying for your account and go do something you like. You wont even notice your isk and SP going up if you do that.

>>1550249
it's been dead for years. half the members trooned out and then they had a meltie on discord and deleted everything and it was over.

>>1573966
It doesn't take too long to PLEX if you plan it all out and use the most efficient methods, but planning it in itself takes time and commitment doing things that aren't particularly fun. For instance, I do PI, skill extraction, and run HQ incursions and I print up a lot of money each month, far more than I need to PLEX.

My monthly PI is making around 2.5b ISK/mo per account, skill extraction is doing about 1.3b ISK per character assuming I don't need the training, and HQs make around 200m ISK/hr per character I run on. The PI takes several hours every two weeks to pick up and haul but is otherwise quick, skill extraction only really takes time setting up market orders for extractors and injectors, and HQs only really need me to drag my Paladins around once a week to the new site (Or be lazy and leave them in Amarr).

I pay for 24 months of omega at a time though, so instead of 3b per month, it's only about half that, even less on specials. I still recommend just paying cash for most people though, get a year of time when CCP has a discount going on and just accept paying the $10-12 per month.

>>1573717
the plan is to do the highest possible abyss difficulty using 3 frigates, be it 2/3 worms/dramiel/succubus and 1/0 bantam
there's a guy, lord rhetor on youtube who did t5 abyss solo on worm alpha but that's obviously too hardcore

>>1573571
yeah its always worth training an alpha for something in case you need it one day.
never know when you'll want to seed a wormhole with an alpha explo alt, either to use or sell
or if you want 4 throwaway FW alts one for each faction so you can just switch to where the gudfites are.

>>1573949
>super boring
you do it semi-afk watching TV or posting on 4chan, its comfy.
>super dangerous
ive been doing it for years and havent died in at least 18 months. if you're properly using intel tools at your disposal and pay attention you almost never get got. worst case you lose an 800k isk ship

>>1574061
>>1573717
different anon, but T1 frigate abyss pays 70mil/hr if you clear them in 7-ish minutes. you can do this in a 30mil Hawk fit and dont need to really pay that much attention.
multibox you could do duo Jackdaws, 3 Hawks or 2 Retri and a Deacon and push for higher tiers.

>>1575557
It's not quite that for T1 and rapid clearing that fast takes a lot more focus than you'd think. I used to do it in a Retribution, but it gets old fast and you're better off just blitzing L4s in high sec with a cheap battleship for a similar amount of ISK with less effort.

Abyss is only really worth it for T5 or above for cruisers or T4 frigate gangs if you're chasing ISK/hr, otherwise there's safer activities that pay better elsewhere. Hell, semi-AFK mining in an Endurance in lowsec pays better and you have the advantage of local to know it's completely devoid of threats.

>>1575554
> semi-afk watching TV or posting on 4chan, its comfy.
yes running in circles scanning and bookmarking shit is very comfy and semiafk
especially seeing when someone else appears in local during hacking relics

> ive been doing it for years and havent died in at least 18 months
i could believe this if you did it on astero with the cloak
because you never know for sure what is waiting for you on the other side of a gate

> worst case you lose an 800k isk ship
and loot worth billions of isk
and time
and implants if have any and decided to not spend hours returning back to highsec

imagine being this risk averse
oy vey! muh billions of loot!

>>1575882
Not him, but I'm just time adverse. I'm not going to waste time grinding shit in game for a maybe payoff that isn't even that big when I could just do it in safety elsewhere and do it faster.

>grinding ever
fucking lmao

yeah enjoy spending twice as much time for half the payoff, loser

>unironic paypigging

if all you do is grind isk for plex you may as well not play

>only options are grinding or paypigging
tfw i keep five accounts plexed and my hangars full with less than an hour a week

>Lying on the interwebs

why would i lie
just stop being poor, its that easy

i do 6 accounts in 45 minutes a week

Come on.
NTR-206 Cosmic Signature 0.0% 13.31 AU
RNG-585 Cosmic Signature 0.0% 16.69 AU
Both in my home hole. Both relic sites.
Was this really necessary?

>>1575874
just dont wear implants and dont carry around billions of loot you retard. its literally not that hard.

>>1576291
losing loot isn't a loss anyways if your argument is that I won't do the content because I may lose the rewards, you won't get the rewards that way either.

>>1576291
so are you suggesting to coming back to jita after each 100m isk relic loot or what

>>1576608
>being dense on purpose
Ill usually fly around till i hit 500-600 mill. Then ill start looking for a highsec portal. Then i drop the goods in the first station i find and give them to my alt, once a week or so ill go around collecting everything ive dropped in a badger labeled "rock wagon"

>>1576608
not to jita, just pop out a wh into highsec/lowsec/npcnull, dump it in some random station then go back into your wormhole.

later on you go around and haul your shit back to the nearest hub, doesnt matter which one, price is the same.

Opsrey Navy issue, my beloved

1) Undock, use noise-5 filament to teleport to null
2) Open map, click show population, and plot a short course through empty systems and begin hacking
3) If someone starts following me I pop another noise-5 filament
4) Once I have enough loot I use a home-5 filament to teleport to Pochven, wait 15 minutes, (yes I know about the wormholes spitting you out into adjacent systems) then use Glorification-1 filament and you're within 5 jumps of Jita.
With filaments exploration was changed so you can go through far flung regions of null and get back to Jita in a single sitting, it isnt a huge journey where you have to nomad for days with people chasing you trying to pop your loot piñata frigate.

There's really no reason to do exploration unless you can do it with two characters in covert ops. Just hand all the loot to one of them so you never lose anything and just make people waste their time.

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pochven was a mistake

So what exactly happaned to All-out? I started out with tem in a womrhole back when I was Alpha. Came back a few years later and just did my own thing while still remaining in the corp. Now I quit to team up with some RL bros, but I'm still curious as to what happened to them. Theirr Killboard looks embarassing nowadays, apparently its just one or two active dudes left...

>>1577847
All-Out is looking for a new master to make it great again. Right now it's just sleeping. SS stepped down a while back.

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>>1577847
>So what exactly happaned to All-out?
Got tired, and left, after corp was swept from a heist.

>>1577969
To be fair, All-Out has a habit of burning out their CEOs/leaders pretty quick.

>>1577206
one scanner/hauler and an echelon with black glass is amazingly fast for any space.

I'm pretty sure the echelon has a hidden warp bonus.

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Did you join a local chill fleet today, anons?

>>1578151
I am so sick of incursions I never want to see them again.

>>1578170
I have legit PTSD from my warp-to-me days. Not from the millions of pirates i killed but just from the monotony of it. Sold my bowhead and machariel and vowed to never no-life again

>>1578228
I finally started with incursions because I thought they'd be like raids from themepark MMOs, which is sort of what I wanted once I ditched null and j-space. I came to my first VG incursion and was completely disappointed with the fact the system is so streamlined everyone just warps an acceleration gate and kills things from top to bottom on a list.

I had thought it'd be like a group of people having to manually pilot, react to changing conditions, meet DPS checks, that sort of thing to complete. They still pay well, but there's absolutely zero challenge to them.

>>1578232
As someone who Irl worked for the railway i can say that incursions, like the railway. Pay alot of money for a good reason. And its not cause its hard.

>>1578232
>everyone just warps an acceleration gate and kills things from top to bottom on a list.
that's literally the game's combat system tho, and has been for the last 22 years

>>1578262
Combat in eve is not the most awe inspiring but you do have to admit that incursions are completely streamlined and locked in. And especially when you do it with a large corp that has private insurance where theres literally zero risk

>>1578232
That's basically how old raids are in themepark mmo's. Ever actually done a wow classic raid? Outgeared players absolutely annihilating the content with 0 thought to any mechanic that isn't an absolute party wipe and even those get avoided with addons.

If you actually had to "manually pilot, react to changing conditions, meet DPS checks, that sort of thing" then it would be a nightmare to attempt because either 1) it's tuned for that on a "normal" ship like a Paladin in which case players will just bypass that by using something that is blingier or 2) it's like that with a complete setup of bling ships in which case no one would dare to do it except very few in "elite" corps that practice this in incredibly sweaty way. The #1 lesson is that you can't force people to have fun.

>>1578232
>I had thought it'd be like a group of people having to manually pilot, react to changing conditions, meet DPS checks, that sort of thing to complete
unfortunately that's the case for all the group content in Eve.
they always spawn exactly the same way every time with no variety because people complain if they do, then people complain if the AI does anything intelligent or targets drones, then the sweaties calculate it down to an exact science removing any fun or challenge.

hoping that what they said at Fanfest 2 years ago ie: "we're gunna roll out diamond rat AI to all parts of the game and completely rework missions" actually goes ahead.
but with how half-assed they've done the FW expansion, Pirate FW, Homefronts and the Null changes I'm not exactly holding my breath.


your best bet would be getting into high tier frigate abyss with 2 friends. at least the manual piloting and having to adapt etc on the fly kind of happens there, compared to everything else in the game.

>>1578324
This.
in FFXI we sort of got around that by gradually low-manning endgame more and more until you're doing Dynamis or Sky with 5 people instead of 30.

still waiting for pos removal. wasn't it meant to happen 10y ago

Is there a /vm/ corp I could join as a new player?

>>1578519
If you are an actually new player, just join the /v/bros channel ingame first. There you can ask anything you want to know and I am sure at least some of niggers will be willing to answer.

>>1578324
I vaguely remember Zul-Gurub and Molten Core in WoW, I haven't done raids prior to that. Then again, I would've been like 16 at the time of those, so my impression of them could be way different.

I suppose I always thought incursions were going to be a lot more active before I joined one, hyping them up in my mind only to find it wasn't the case. Group abyss is more what I enjoy, but even that gets old.

wow has always been gay as shit

homefronts were supposed to be that but then faggots

>>1578582
What do you mean faggots? Surely you mean based multiboxers playing the game as CCP intended? Right? :^)

>>1577969
>corp was swept from a heist.
they got away with like 5b max kek

>>1578573
Incursions were made like 10+ years before the abyss, that's a big reason why it's like that.
The abyss is the most active PVE content in the game, and it took them literally 2 decades to figure out how to get it done. And you will notice that the abyss is instanced, and this is why. Dealing with the entire song and dance of a manually piloted fight while handling niggers such as myself popping in and out of local is straight up not going to happen even in highsec. It's basically a turkey shoot for griefers and at that point why even go through the effort of designing it when nobody will ever do it?

As for WoW raids, Molten core is the simplest 40 man with just about no mechanics, most of it is about as easy as Incurisons once you get it down.
>bring this much heal and DPS
>stand here
>shoot/stab this guy
ZG had a few fights that were more involved, but not by that much. Most of the OG raids came down to figuring out the gimmic this one boss brings, having everyone stand in the right place and then the retard warlock pulling aggro and having the entire clothie blob fried.

>griefers

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>tfw forgot about eve because of path of exile 2

i am amazed how many retards come into my wormhole for seemingly no reason
like the exploration sucks, popping into a wormhole to mine gas sucks, i don't get why these people do it

i enjoy killing them though

>>1579577
Wingspan comes to my wormhole from time to time, they have a seed in it ever since I booshed one of them off the high sec exit and killed him. It's always the same three faggots in Lokis camping the exit who just show up at random intervals, usually waiting until someone who doesn't multibox tries to come in with something defenseless.

High sec wormhole camping is the gayest shit and one of the few reasons I can't wait to move in to a C4 one day.

>>1578519
4chan corps dont exist for a reason.
there are some bullshit ones people pretend like they're 4chan corps but they're really just edgy teenager reddit corps that shill themselves on 4chan

why was this game fun?
i have tried to get into it multiple times over the last 15 years and never got past the first 5 days
occasionally ill meet a guy that was super into EVE 1000 years ago but is some kind of autistic wizard who can't tell me why it was so good or why its not good any more
i just want to understand why it was fun and what changed so i can stop thinking about it forever
the enigma never ends

shooting niggers