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This new Chains of Promathia stuff looks pretty cool edition

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>>1519952

Play FFXI
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml
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Mithra if she real
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Will we ever get PS2 effects on PC?
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>>1573242
lost media
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Move on
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how bad an idea would it be to focus only on levelling and gearing pet jobs be on retail
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>>1573466
Men if real
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>>1573470
Honestly better than whatever this cringe pserver drama is.
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>>1573470
pet jobs share a lot of gear, and the pets make it really easy to solo, especially all the bcnms and shit that don't allow trusts. Not like you'll even get into a party as a BST or PUP anyways
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Ziz checking 4chan
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I don't know what the fuck you're going on about, but I'm playing retail and I don't have to give a shit about any of that crap
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I don't know what the fuck you're going on about, but I'm playing horizon and I still don't have to give a shit about any of that crap
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I don't know what the fuck is happening.
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wait a minute, I'm not an endgametard
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I love FFXI!
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I wish it wasn't prohibitively expensive and reliant on frustrating hacks to multibox. I don't really care about progress and winning so much as how neat it would be to create a coherent system of characters, but you have to pay out the ass to do this and there's this unnecessary grimey feeling that you're cheating when you're really just playing a different game. I'm imagining Vana'diel but with large alliances of "multis" fighting together would be closer to the cinematics at least. The setting deserves more.
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someone else who is also a boomer and buff play with me and help me unlock stuff >:(
NOW
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>>1574143
The spirit is willing, but the body is not on your server, most likely.
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>>1574143
server?
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>>1574143
galka looking for cute galka bf to give millions to and pamper...
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>>1574142
I started multiboxing last year. once you set up some good scripts and learn to get character following, hotkeys and SendTarget shit setup it starts to feel like a classic FF where you control a whole party. It does feel grimey at first then you start to notice how many other people are doing it around you and you just come to terms with it being an inevitable part of a game in its twilight. I still prefer to do stuff with real people and yell for groups when I can but its nice not having to wait 30 minutes-1 hour if I want to do something like sinister reign
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>>1574229
I like PUP so I think it'd be even cooler to control 5 puppets at the same time, but fuck having to spend $100 every month
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>Utsusemi Ni
>0-3 selling at any given moment
>was 600k+ for at least the past year
>suddenly 84 people start selling it
>now worth 100k after a single day
wtf happened and why did it occur the day after I got my own utsusemi ni drop from a BCNM
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>>1574142
>reliant
>multibox
Sounds like a you issue desu
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Where Fren'ship lasts. Safest HNMLS of HorizonXI.
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Where women are protected by real men. Join Frens.
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I don't care, fuck off with your discord drama bullshit
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Keep that cringe shit on Discord.
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glad retail players itt never made a discord. patrician taste.
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not even people who play on horizon know who those retards are
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>>1575365
Additional seal battlefield spoils campaign started on the 10th. People are farming kupons.
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>>1575686
fuck
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What's the most popular and best pserver nowadays? I get the XI craving again
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>>1575859
Horizon.
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>>1575859
Only join a pserver if you want to be around the schizo posting here. Best to just stick to retail.
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>>1575859
>most popular
horizon
>best
always will be eden, despite the dual boxing
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Is this game still online?
I've been trying to become a new player all weekend and this is the playonline site.
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>>1576208
interesting yeah i guess playonline.com doesnt redirect you to the main page but the site is still working on my end

http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/campaign/discount/index.html
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>>1576211
I figured out what it was, the playonline site doesn't allow browsers in incognito/private mode. Weird.
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>>1576220
japanese pc game, prease undahstando
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>>1576220
SSL is required for that. It's your browser that says no zank you.
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>>1576194
Dual boxing is why Eden died as soon as something better was available. Dual box servers have all died for a reason. It ruins the game. Doesn’t matter how good your server is after 8 years of work if dual boxing exists.
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>>1576344
this, I wish some things on horizon were tied to the account as well. I really hope they disable alts for salvage
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Is this game fun or is it like FFXIV where I'm just logging on once a day to do roulettes to do the same dungeon for the 1000th time to level my 15th alt job that plays exactly like all the other jobs.
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>>1576551
depends if you play retail or an era pserver but even then I feel like there's a ton of stuff to do on both, to the point where you're juggling your options on what you want to do on a particular day
most jobs play fairly differently
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Wow I thought people were joking about this game being impossible to set up. I downloaded the files and now I have no idea what I'm doing.
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>>1576551
xi is not like a modern mmo at all, there's no way to describe it accurately that'll do it justice. you just gotta dive in and see if its for you
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>>1573499
esl microcelebrity misunderstands nickname

"maybe this was a mistranslation."
"no. let's make rape jokes"

that's about it
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>>1577060
Sounds like you should shut the fuck up and keep it in Discord.
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>>1577067
I'm just answering a question chill baby
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the implication of the dictionary definition is offensive too
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>>1577074
Don't call me baby, honey.
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Bets on how many times ziz and frens told her to commit edicius? Fucking freaks
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Shitty ass fucking linkshell they dont know how to treat people, they in their own wacky world least she said something we all were thinking hahahahahaahah
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She is really pretty and nice. Are they gay or something?
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>>1577146
they are catty little faggots for sure
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why don't you all post mithra instead
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yeah, tanny's pretty but i'd rather watch solowolf
>nice laugh
>pronounces words wrong like entemental
>afraid of malboros
>doesn't attract the uber sweaty no lifers who try to impress female streamers
>plays at his own pace unlike having to be constantly doing end game with a circle jerk
>organic and random parties instead of the same orbiters
>good commentary
>pops off
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>>1577303
I don't care
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I literally do not know any of these people, and i don’t care about any of their feelings.
Shut the fuck up, if its so funny give all context so we can laugh at all of you retards. Stop with the baiting of info you attention seeking whore
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is anyone in frens/sanctity mentally well?
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>>1577338
You literally do not need any items in this game to succeed in any content in 75 era. Genuinely, stacking smniggers and blms cleared all content on horizon month 1. Gearing a job with bis is pure bragging rights, which is fine except when you genuinely waste 2 years of your life doing dyna 6x times with 2 alts weekly or camp hnms for these meaningless bis items you are mentally not well.
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>>1577343
this is not the reason sanctity members are mentally ill though
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>>1577343
You seem well
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Looks like they got their marching orders, talk in silk road about Chinese food and downplay/deflect what happened, classic abuser behavior
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>>1577338
Too addicted to this stuff
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>>1577352
yep, weird how all of a sudden Desantine decided to talk on discord and not only in game during camps with his 5 years old humor
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>>1577356
Interesting how a bunch of their finest dbags suddenly type in silk road when they normally don't! Coincidence I'm sure
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>>1577359
at least Ziz tells you straight up to kys, Bueller is a fake ass cringe npc
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>>1577366
they should both commit edicius
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>>1577367
Waiting for him to get d ring so he can quit
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>>1577391
Hi ziz, feeling bad?(of course not, that would require not being a piece of human filth)
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we talking about seafood guys
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based tanni taking the high road over these no life losers of Frens/sanctity
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They really failed to take care of a nice girl? This is laughable. And they still sour and gonna take it out on her? Man are they lost. What are they doing?
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>>1577418
Being pieces of shit, nothing new
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I am in frens and I dont even like frens anymore I have dkp I just want my payout and leave this fucking blows lost interest in camping like what the actual fuck
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>>1577425
post screenshots of the fucked up shit their saying
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>just downloaded and started playing for first time
>on create a character screen
>porn music starts playing whenever you select a female category
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What is silk road
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>>1577469
that period of clothcraft that's exclusively uses silk
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>>1577469
Horizon drama discord server
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LFG WD help pls take in some refugees
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Fuck off with Discord drama.
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>>1577495
Cry more Raging
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The anni event was smart and fun and captured some of the most appealing aspects of classic FFXI. It reignited the sense of discovery, while rewarding players who had a comprehensive knowledge of items and game systems. True to the nature of FFXI group play, the server had to work as a group to discover NPCs, solve riddles, and produce and ferry items. It reinvigorated the economy and the items were chosen smartly to create dynamic player economic interactions. Great work to put a new spin and breathe new energy into existing systems that we all know and love, without fundamentally changing them
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>>1577523
Go back to work Aerec
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>>1577523
did AI write this
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>>1577528
yes
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>>1577523
it's lopsided. each craft is meant to have their own highlights, but some are more advantaged than others. leatherworkers actually get to make stuff that only they can do at higher level. mean while other crafts are at a disadvantage being a high level. alch*my with subs and guild point items from other guilds can make profit.
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where's ur manhood at
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jannies please nuke the thread
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>>1577840
shut the fuck up and get the fuck out
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>>1577850
why? you nuked yourself
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>>1577865
Fuck off.
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This is the gayest drama yet. Some esl European who doesn’t understand English trying to fabricate drama? Looks like it blew up in her race because she lied. Tannifae always seems like a fucking retard to me, guess they can’t help but prove it.
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I don’t know who any of these people are, and i mean that sincerely. Not like the typical “hurr durr i don’t know your cringe eceleb” and its like a videogame dunkey thread. No Fae, Raging, Whoever are not celebrities, if you want us to be in on your drama please elaborate. And if you don’t than stop being a little bitch and go cry to the person you’re bitching about in their dms and keep it between you faggots.
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>>1575859
FFERA for just speed running the grind to 30 and unlocking shit right away and then not playing again for a year.
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>>1577915
tanniefae is a ffxi twitch streamer whose first experience with ffxi is horizon. i don't know who the others are either but from the context it seems like it's an egls (frens) drama where she felt uncomfortable with some jokes that are somewhat sexual. it's not even just horizon discord drama, it's drama that happened in their egls discord i think.
i didn't know any of this happened until this thread yesterday, which made me check out her recent stream on twitch where she was playing on retail bahamut (? kept calling it behemoth so not sure) server and was crying a bit and how she didn't really know the guy who made sexual jokes.
honestly as much as stay away from egls due to their drama, i wonder if it's worse than the mithrannies who act like 14 year olds on gaia.
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>>1578012
didn't read, don't care, fuck off
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>>1578013
wasn't for you, so keep crying about how a certain ffxi tuber shouted our your retail server.
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So is this just a discord drama thread or can we talk about XI?
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>>1578097
sorry bub, this is the mahjong thread
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>>1578097
Please. Anything but this brainrot.
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When do you start to out damage your trusts in FFXI?
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>>1573242
explain? I only ever played on 360 and pc
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>>1578326
Not that anon but from what I remember there are very specific particle and rendering effects that are just un-replicatable on the PC client due to utilizing software that was only ever meant for the PS2.
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>>1578304
probably not until you hit cap and start getting good gear. it'd be possible to do before then but not many would recommend trying to chase gear before hitting 99
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>>1578331
So just ignore gear/skills till near cap?
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>>1578348
If you want your trusts to carry you the entire way.
If you want to feel like less of a dead weight, you could obtain certain sets at different milestones. I think the most simple one goes: Level 1 RSE, Level 30 RSE, level 60 Artifact, maybe the level 76 Abyssea set, and finally the 119 Adoulin set. Stay more up to date with the weapons, at least every 10 levels via Sparks.
As for the skills, depending on the skill, you could grind it later once you reach level cap or sidetrack if it's more important and feel it's lacking. For melee weapons, Crabs, Beetles, and Uragnites are good targets. For ranged weapons and magic, Lair Reives work from level 1 all the way to 99, particularly the one at Yahse Hunting Grounds (J-6).
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>>1578329
damn,,,
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>>1578304
just bring out the support trusts and attack food, can't get out damaged if they're not there
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So gear actually matters in this game?
In FFXIV it just gets "synched" and doesn't really matter.
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>>1578304
Probably depends on your job as sam once you unlock the merit point weapon skill your damage starts to climb only trust that was really outdamaging me by then was probably shantotto 2 (and it was only because of my skillchains she was able to do so much)
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>>1578830
>So gear actually matters in this game
understatement of the century. 99% of this game is gear collection
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>>1578847
Right now I have something called "Hume vest" is that good/rare? Like am I elite?
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I just wiped on my level 5 quest to kill a monster in the canyon. It's over. I am humiliated. I will never be a real adventurer. I'm a fraud.
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>>1579202
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>>1579202
authentic xi christening
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Is there anyway to fix the animation glitches at 60fps like the insect wing flaps?
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>>1579202
the game doesn't teach you to use /check or examine right? It's funny because there are more mobs than ever that will just have their way with you
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>>1579396
I checked, it just said it was "tough" so I figured, well hell, I'm tough too, so let's do it.
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>>1579367
play on 30fps like Altana intended
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>>1578304
you can outdamage most trusts by the time gear starts getting actual stats, and you figure out how to make skillchains, and you actually use all your job abilities, and you eat food and buff properly, so by around 50-75 is when you outdamage/outperform 90% of trusts.The other 10% are the ones like valainerel and shantotto II who are literally cheating and have infinite TP or infinite MP, or Rainemard who has enhancing magic +300 or something stupid even at all levels so his enspells deal +60 damage, or semih who gets sidewinder at level 1 when she should be getting it at level 45.
But also if you're gearing up for level 50 then like what the fuck are you doing?
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>>1579367
Are they moving too slow or fast?
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>>1579434
30fps just looks really bad on a 144hz monitor

>>1579450
Fast I guess, the way the wings cycle makes it look like they aren't actually moving.
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Tannifae is streaming, frens faggots get fucked
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>>1579471
fuck off, I don't care about your internet microcelebrity you fucking faggot
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>>1579471
we got a shoutout!!
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>>1579478
kill yourself
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Ziz, your response?
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>kneeling for BLM is a core game mechanic
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>>1579488
after 20 years someone is finally talking about getting molested by the taru BLM
#Metoo
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is sanctity a 4chan ls
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>>1579521
the 4chan ls is called Littlegirls
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IS the dum drama really about the word "intangible" or is there more that has not been disclosed yet? Ziz did you send butthole pics or something bro?
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>>1579526
Lemme in
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how much DKP is a GF in frens?
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>literal nothingburger
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Time to clean up.
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could you stop using this thread like a twitch chatroom please
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How does anyone know what to do in this game?
Where is the quest markers and the giant floating icons?
Where is the on rails MSQ?
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>>1579574
this is one of those games where you need to have the wiki open all the time on your second monitor for basically anything that's not brainless xp'ing
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>>1579582
When I switch to my second monitor the game music stops playing which breaks my immersion
I need the goofy jungle music of Windhurt playing without interruption
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>>1579586
works on my machine
maybe you need to tweak your settings or something
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>>1579574
No one knows what they're doing. Even at max level you see people just standing around doing nothing and sometimes they bunch up on eachother.
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>>1579604
I saw that today. I would occassionally see a toon with a white name standing in two, stiff as a board, staring into empty space. They always had 3 gold stars above their name. The NPCs moved more than they did. It was eerie.
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>>1579586
this is why I use a second computer
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>>1577334
No idea. I've been running with Heirloom for EGLS. All I really need is YYR and Herald Gaiters.
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give me one reason I shouldn't just spam my highest level thunder spell while levelling black mage
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>>1579761
Just do Bio. Only Bio,
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>>1579586
You need to use a third party launcher which fixes this. I like ashitav4-beta but boomers use windower.
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2025 is the worst year in recorded human history
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>>1579845
every year is worse than the last
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>>1579456
29.9 fps is what the lord GOD Tanaka Himself deigned to be played by us mortals who cannot understand His vision

Thou shalt NOT increase frames per second beyond HIS assigned limits, else ye be blasted with intermittent animation speed and UTTER depravity
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>>1579845
what happened now
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>>1579853
I asked what happened NOW you dumb nigger
you've been seething over this for like a week at this point
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>>1579860
>he doesn't know about the most recentest one
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we know you're being ironic but you're still mad
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>>1579885
why is this little shit always at the centre of every drama? he was also banned from silk road for irl death threats lmao
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its alarming how theres many gms in frens and yet its the most unsafest for women. didnt several leave and even get banned?
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also cant believe she got harassed so badly in her twitch chat, good thing she joined retail i think she will like it better. we treat women way better here
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>>1580083
you got extra DKP for defending frens in her twitch chat
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>>1579755
just small things
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>>1580083 horizon can have zizg while we take tannifae i look forward to more retail promotions. horizon < retail always
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do w*men really not know that retail is a harassers/cheaters paradise? The zero GMs do nothing about literally everything. I am Absolutely Certain that if you spammed /t tannifae nigger while she was streaming the only outcome would be her getting banned off twitch
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>>1580336
nah private servers are even more toxic af its so toxic u guys take over our threads like a novel and its always women involved like waaaat sickos
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I tried out this game a while back and quitted due to the slow combat but I really want to try and get back into it since XIV isn't that interesting to me anymore. Any tips or guides out there that are very helpful? Would love to be a Blue Mage main.
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>>1580310
Please take Chess, Cnile and Semicolon while you're at it.
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>>1580358
it's literally no different on retail, except GMs wont do anything
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>>1580386
atleast our GMs arent dickheads
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>>1580412
>Xhe doesn't know
rumao
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>>1579885
They are useless when you put them against mass magic strats.
I have no idea why this community has it in their skull that any melee job can be op. Balance changes will never happen on horizon, last one was last year(only for thf pretty much)but faggots still argue every time when any melee job buff suggestion thread starts because “heckin with a relic they’re too good already dummy you don’t play, please X”
No? An entire alliance of relics will clear dyna slower than 2 parties of blms thanks to magic aoe.
Relics still feed too much tp and melee jobs are still too in danger of aoe hnm tp moves to be viable.
Melee are still too inefficient with eminty
Relics still struggle to low man compared to magic.
The only thing that melee jobs have in general is raw single target dps which is possibly the most worthless metric in 75 era. People happily slowly grind down a ground king over an hour safely after all lol.
And even then normal mb setups with mass blms still pump out incredible single target dps.
Its almost as infuriating as retards defending bad balancing because “when toau comes out the job gets this, noob”
yeah bro i can’t wait either LOL
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>>1580475
this post belongs in wotg era
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>>1580475
My point is that guy clearly has your same opinion but keeps making ironic suggestions about nerfing melee relics. Nobody thinks melee jobs can be op, people have just more fun with them
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>>1580475
Even merits, the supposed melee cuckshed are outdone by magic burn.
The gigas camp melee niggers were parsing on for the first year and relic fags just kept talking about nonstop was not nerfed because it was too good for melee.
It was nerfed because basic bitch blm burn was EXTREMELY GOOD.
LOL THE ONE PIECE OF ZOMBIE CONTENT PEOPLE AGREE MELEE IS GOOD IN AND THEY STILL SUCK.
I don’t want to be a melee hater, i wish the jobs got new tools that gives them utility and honestly make them more interesting. Pressing hasso and auto attacking+press ws is fucking braindead, and boring. but instead we have to pretend they’re op because a drk can spend a year of his life printing daily to go from dogshit to just medicore.
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every job should be able to do every piece of content and also be able to solo and also be the best at everything
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>>1580505
How would you make them more interesting? Which new tools, more subtle blow?
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>>1580513
>half of the jobs suck dick at everything
>the other half are good at everything
How does this work into your retarded opinion?
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Horizon is gonna be at the point that (IF) ToAU ever comes out you won't even be allowed to play unless you have a relic
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>>1580535
with ToAU comes COR so yeah everything will be zerged lol

>>1580475
why this schizo in every thread
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>>1580535
Is relic club worth it for WHM? What about staff for SMN? Focus mythic?
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>>1580475
you aren't wrong about the magic meta, but the tp feed is irrelevant in dyna. people are terrified of tp feed when it doesnt matter in a ton of content, and then suddenly want to brink o club to the content where tp moves actually matter, its amazing brainrot
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>>1580564
I'm getting relic club for WHM and stage 4 is already fun. It's really strong and I'm not sure why so many groups sleep on it.
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>>1580567
I was talking about hnm specifically when it comes to tp feed.
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>>1580574
Also just in general if it doesn’t die within 20-30 seconds a melee job will do nothing but tp feed. Last henm wipe i was in, because people swapped to their epic fun melee jobs )a lot had relics btw) on scorps. We died, and the leader asked people to swap jobs back to mostly magic and it was an easy clear like usual all just from the lack of mass tp feeding.
Its just do sad to see niggas warp back to jueno to put down their apoc and pick up a ele staff when its time to actually play the game lol.
I really wouldn’t mind a bandaid fix like a 30% subtle blow trait given to all melee at like level 60 or something, they just need something to help with 1 of their 300 issues
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>>1580584
some jobs already have subtle blow. bring them.
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>>1580574
I missed that since you mentioned tp feed directly after dyna, my bad. I tend to assume that people dont grasp when it is and isnt ok to tp feed on this server from my experience with the general population so far.
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>>1580584
avoiding TP feed on mobs that will gib you for feeding them TP is not anti-melee
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>>1580584
I think many don't understand that just because you're meleeing doesn't mean you have to 24/7. Just simply stop hitting the scorps, step away, let folks recover, then go back. Same with HNMs. Melee Fafnir, he TPs too much, sleep him, recover, and continue. It's surprising how many people just shut off their brain and spam melee and abilities then cry when they wipe.
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>>1580569
I love melee WHM despite it being a meme. I can solo almost everything on SMN but something about taking out those clubs and landing a good hexa - holy burst feels phenomenal. I have Nash head and everything else. Just need the club. Also 0/13 on Oclub, Fuck that thing.
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>>1580584
well if your tanks cant handle relics being on the mobs on henm this late into the server then thats genuinely a skill issue. even going nin/rdm tanking them myself which tp feeds like fucking crazy its easy, though if youre lowmanning ill concede the dynamic changes.
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kclub should not have existed on horizon
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All of my plugins keep breaking and I don't know why since the update. I think its something with Lua but have no idea what. I also want to see everyone Luas now.
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why are you sliding the thread with this melee vs mage trash? protect our women.
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>>1580638
fuck off retard
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>>1580638
>why are you talking about FFXI in a FFXI thread
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>>1580638
>he thinks they are women and not just retards
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>our
you mean their
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the fragile male ego lvld down to 0 maybe that needs some work on instead preying on girls
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>>1580733
could you kill yourself already
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>>1580738
i mean seriously there was like a bunch of guys all pussy ass hurt from this 1 girl like cmon, howd she massacre all ur egos
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>>1580743
I don't give a fuck about whatever inane bullshit you're spouting
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>>1580750
you can leave then, because you obviously don't play this game.
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Reminded why we started making retail-only threads
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>>1580757
that makes two of us
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>>1580760
Based on the OP, this is a retail only thread.
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>>1580764
this is an intel demo thread, retard
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>>1580774
Who?
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horizonGODS rule this thread
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>>1580638
is this bait or is this a regular faggot here?
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>>1580782
based forza chads
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>>1580781
inteldemo you fucking mongoloid, how DARE you insult him?
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>>1580797
don't care, fuck off
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>>1580800
I care, fuck on
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Gonna be another 3 months before we have peaceful threads again...
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>>1580810
fuck you leatherhead
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>>1580785
both
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>>1580638
that isnt what sliding is newfag
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>>1580825
did urbandictionary tell you that?
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>>1580813
I'll kick your ass
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My sisters in Altana please SHUT THE FUCK UP about your Discord drama. Nobody cares. Let us post in peace.
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i blame ziz couldnt just call her tangerine or tanafae couldve choosen any other word. if u gonna hit on a girl on the first move and try to get her attention like u sucking at ur game
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>>1580833
fuck off
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from the ss he def dont got game
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>>1580828
uncyclopedia actually
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from the SS he makes pussies DRIP
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Looks like between LS mates and asking around, people are getting 3 or 4 pieces of the full Null Set in about 20~30 VE or E, which seems really generous for how easy it is.
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>>1580897
why the hell did they make it so easy compared to shinryu wtf

SE is so inconsistent
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>>1580366
The slow combat is there to give you time to type in the game during battles and to help learn your job. It speeds up later on when you get more abilities and better stats.
BG Wiki has starter guides. A personal tip of mine is to try not to rely on Trusts too much, they can carry you if you let them.
Blue Mage is a great job for beginners. Obtaining Blue Magic lets you learn a lot about how mobs work among other game mechanics. It does require some patience, but it's a very rewarding job if you take it a little slower to get all the spells while you level up.
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Those dreamlike days
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>want to play but am too lazy because trying to figure out what to do feels like a massive job
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>>1581363
>but at the same time don't want to play FFXIV either because it feels too braindead and tedious
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>>1581019
I really appreciate the tips you gave me! Thank you very much! <3 I'll give it another go this weekend!
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So when is horizon going to get Aht Urhgan? I want to be a pupchad.
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Edicius yourself ziz
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>>1581412
LOL
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>>1581412
LMAOOOOO
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>>1581412
Move on
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>>1581412
It's Naht Urhgone
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>>1581412
When Aerec announces Horizon 2 because the rebase isn't possible
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Fellow retail trannies, why does aerec live rent free in our minds, shouldn't we be occupied playing eight characters at once and dilating?
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i wish i could dilate
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as your father, I think it's time you finally grew up and got off of your video games. I'm getting up in the years and pretty soon I won't be able to take care of you anymore. I think it's about time you got yourself a job and started providing for yourself.
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Does Horizon still have leveling parties?
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>>1581619
Yeah but its clearly dwindling, which is just the nature of people hitting max level on the jobs they want to play.
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>>1581619
yes
I haven't found it hard to get into parties, but maybe you'll do if you play a melee DD
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>>1581639
what if I go mnk/blm, will I get invites then?
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>>1581639
wise to start fresh as a WHM on Horizon? how expensive are spells? i haven't played since Wings
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Every time I get nostalgic about XI, reflecting longingly about returning to Vana'Diel, remembering my youth spent exploring that world and the friends I made there. I come to one of these threads seeking others like me then when I arrive I find the thread consists primarily of private server drama and dumb discord 'he said she said' shit and I then remember why I don't play XI anymore.
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>>1581641
can't tell you about the money situation but I got easy invites on WHM
WAR and MNK are good starters as well, MNK probably being the cheapest job to take to 18 for unlocking subjobs
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>>1581644
We're still here, anon, but man in the dramaflood in this thread tiring. Makes some of worst containment boards on this site look outstanding by comparison.
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>>1581666
>man in the dramaflood
Minor spelling mistake, too tired, etc. etc.
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In the mog garden, is there any downside to constantly changing assistant's roles daily? I've been changing yeestog between groves and mines every single day and I've been getting his benefits on both harvests every day. Surely there's some catch to this, right? I think Kuyin and Susuroon would probably work the same for nets and furrows but I haven't tried them out
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Has anyone tried punching the mother fucker flooding these threads in the mouth? That generally works. Leave them without any teeth
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>>1581626
>which is just the nature of people hitting max level on the jobs they want to play.
more like the jobs they're allowed to play
Nobody levels tanks because you won't be allowed into an EGLS anyway with one, dead end job
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>>1582122
>Nobody levels tanks because you won't be allowed into an EGLS anyway with one, dead end job
Tanks are very requested in end game what the fuck are you talking about
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>>1582124
The relevant EGLSes already have their tanks geared and those slots occupied. Nobody is going to fucking want some shitter 75 PLD showing up with nothing, maybe if you already have a tank geared from being 75 on another job and just jacking all the drops because you have 5billion DKP you'd be wanted
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>>1582125
are you talking about hnmls or endgame shells for events?
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>>1582216
What EG shell events are going to utilize naked tanks other than sky pops and city dyna?
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>>1582238
you can tank hnm on pld in af gear
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>>1582247
You CAN but that doesn't mean you'll be allowed to. I can go fucking clear Under Observation on DRK but nobody is gonna take you unless you go on BST
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>>1582238
looks like you need to gear your character. also PLD in dyna no thanks
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>>1582257
Thanks for proving my point, tank opens no doors so nobody wants to tank. Dead end job.
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>>1582263
If you only have PLD in AF gear I guess working a bit more on your character wouldn't be a bad idea, or even having a melee for dyna. I'm sure that an EGLS would take you nonetheless for events - sky, sea, henm, limbus can all make use of a PLD.
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You guys make Horizon sound really miserable to play on.
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>>1582315
It's the same game but with less shit in it
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>>1582315
Well nyes
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>>1582315
it is but retards here blow it way out of proportion
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>>1582315
It's actually chill if you avoid all the autists.
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>>1582315
Its great if you avoid hnmls entirely
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>>1582315
Just avoid anyone in frens, incrediblyhandsome, and sanctity and you're good
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>>1582434
>>1582436
avoid everyone, got it
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>>1582315
Most of the posts are from people who are banned for cheating/RMT since Horizon actually bans people for breaking the rules, and they obsessively post about it here, on reddit, and on discord. There are people who still post in one of the community discords and reddit discussing how angry they are almost 2 years after being banned...
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>>1582480
>since Horizon actually bans people for breaking the rules
Except for the ruling class
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>>1582501
we truly a society
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>>1582501
Horizon literally banned and kicked one of the highest ranking staff members and the best coder on the project because he broke the rules. Why make stuff up?
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>>1582584
They also banned the person who reported him in retaliation. Shozo should've held rank and not told anyone like the rest of staff are doing.
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>>1582584
>He thinks being on the staff is the same as being in the ruling class
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shut up, I don't fucking care about horizon or any other stupid piss server
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how is ffxi private servering still so primitive even 20 years later
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>>1582584
>>1582638
Post details/evidence or shut up. No one cares about schizo posting with 0 evidence.
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>>1582726
No one cares about schizo posting end of sentence
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>>1582315
This is just specifically this general that spergs because its not le epic as retail, a game most people only pretend to still play. Just a classic im more elite than you circle jerk, the server has 2000 players 99% of these people never interact with the tards that have mountains of drama
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>>1582699
fanbase lives in the past
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>>1582689
you are outnumbered
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>>1582779
rage against the machine
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>>1582436
nah only sanctity
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>>1583035
incredibly loud incorrect buzzer
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>>1582584
fae should be banned to but she probably got everyones dick pics cus they beta as hell
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>horizon literally choking on itself because they're stuck in the worst era of the game
lmfao this would be sad if it wasn't so predictable
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>>1583516
>best performing pserver
>choking

lol

it can't be the worst era, retail exists
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>>1583521
Retail has all the story content it's automatically better than Sloprizon
>choking
The server is literally 60% sanctioned merc services, 30% terminal addicts on their 3rd character and 10% newfags who quit in a month
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>>1583525
if the story is the only good part of your game, you might as well just watch it on youtube
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>>1583521
Ambuscade is better than any CoP era end game you are on crack
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>>1583531
People that shill horizon think that retail really has no players playing content together, don't burst his bubble
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Not paying for two MMOs but if they merge the subs I'll play retail.
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>>1583525
I have been playing since launch and I have no characters at level cap. I am none of those things. Maybe just chill out a bit?
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Retail niggas really be jerking off about playing 8 characters at once with their trusts and paying to do so LOL
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>>1583692
as opposed to Horizon fags playing 3 characters and playing them all at end game just so they can pretend their server has something to do and to farm dyna currency 24/7 while pooping into a sock
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qrd on enemycrab?
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>>1583717
Retarded foid that had a melty after blumpf won
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>>1583710
What's your favorite trusts to grind master points with on your 8 characters played at once?
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>>1583710
gonna be so dank when retail shuts down and chuds like this have to commit suicide
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>>1583722
Commit edicius you mean, easy horizon reference to trigger the retailtroon more
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Anyone willing to post an Eventide /sea? Curious how dead it is now.
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>>1583729
trust me they never do
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>>1583729
Wtf is an eventide
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>>1583751
Failed private server, just like Catseye, Eden, wings, etc
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>>1583722
this but horizon having to hard reboot their entire server when they admit the rebase is impossible
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Been away from Horizon for a while, is ToAU coming out this year?
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>>1583940
lol
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>>1583755
1000x more fun than whoreizon. Don't care there isn't 2000+ fags shitting up the server. Whoreizon can be the containment server for all the shitters and fags for all I care.
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>>1583962
If you don’t care, just post /sea. Everyone is just curious is all, no need to be so defensive
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>>1583940
it's friday... it's coming TODAY!!!
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>>1583729
I dunno if I'd want to bother with that place. The exp changes sound interesting but the other things seem half-assed and low effort. The main guy here was a dev for the LimitBreak server but he dipped after a few days of server launch, just so he could focus on playing or something.
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>will never get to play era scholar again
Why couldn’t wings be ran by a normal person?
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>>1583962
Post that /sea all then gang!
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Note how they talk shit but never post the /sea all that shows all 58 losers online.
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Every ls Tristt is in will inevitably explode, bonus point for Ziz
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Horizon's population is a net negative albeit
>We have so many players!
>90% just sit in Jeuno all day unless they arrange a merc service transaction on silk road
>Other 10% unofficially dual boxing by parking an alt at every profitable NM 24/7
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>>1584399
Post the /sea all eventranny
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>>1584398
Why's that?
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>>1584399
Eventrannies are in SHAMBLES that the people sitting around in one zone on horizon are the entire population of their gay little server.
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>>1584459
Enjoy your 0 content server Aerecshill, ToAU any day now I'm sure
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>>1584462
Enjoy your 0 population server Evenshill, 100 active members any day now I'm sure
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>>1584462
Enjoy your TOAU content that doesn’t work at all cause it’s on fucking ASB which is abandoned now. At least Horizon will have working TOAU soon enough from LSB. Get tricked IDIOT. Yet another Simseru server down the drain
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>>1584524
>At least Horizon will have working TOAU soon enough
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>>1584399
Literally and genuinely untrue. Every week i still have to wrangle 1-3 retards who somehow never did eco warrior. The server seems to get an endless support of new blood that drop the game at like 40 or something
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>>1584834
Yeah the health of a server should really be determined by fucking eco warrior spam that's just watching 3 SMNs nuke the fight and not by newfags actually penetrating into endgame
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>>1584834
2 months into horizon people here were already acting like everyone is endgame. EGfags are a blight.
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>>1584852
era isn't about endgame (hence why the endgame in era is hot garbage), so saying the health of a server is determined only by the few autists that can stomach the absolute garbage endgame is dumb
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>>1584873
>era isn't about endgame
you would never know that based on fucking Horizon where everything in the economy and general playstyle of the community is warped around maximizing the amount of relics built before ToAU comes out and Aerec acts like any QoL suggestion that would make end game not hot garbage is like personally coming and taking a shit on his face because at the end of the day everything just boils down to him and his slurpers wanting to trophy lord over the other players

Except the above doesn't even work because the entire end game populace is comprised of other autists who already have the fucking end game toys and thus there is no aura or fucking special status attached to having them
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>>1584887
You are a huge poorfag and it shows
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>>1584873
>so saying the health of a server is determined only by the few autists that can stomach the absolute garbage endgame is dumb
Almost half of the server's typical peak player count (2.2-2.5k) has a relic by now. It's like nearly 800 or some shit if you don't count dupes
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>>1584927
It's literally not that many you lying retard
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>>1584992
look it up
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>>1585006
Post numbers then lying faggot
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I thought there were like 50 relics at most
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>>1584927
lol no it's not so much but definitely a lot of people have one, maybe 300
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>>1585017
It was literally 250-300 a year ago no way it's not way more by now
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>>1585020
Literally wasn't and isn't you fucking liar lmao
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>literally who namedropping
>literally who linkshell drama
>pserver console warring
>discord screenshots
>popularity fags
would you all just fucking kill yourselves already, holy shit
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>>1584907
we get it Rengar you got a sponsored relic
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>>1585028
Kill yourself retailtroon
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>>1585027
Cope
Literally everyone who has a relic agrees that soon it's gonna be "You need a relic just to participate in content" tier because so many have them
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>>1585035
You don't play and it shows
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>>1585041
concession accepted
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>>1585130
You're literally wrong and making shit up lmao, you don't play
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>>1585135
You aren't a top player
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>>1585143
You aren't a player at all
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Horizon players be like
>Low man dyna
>Swap to my Horizon approved alt
>Low man dyna
>Swap to my Horizon approved alt #2
>Low man dyna
>Repeat for a year
YOOOO THIS SERVER IS FIRE
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>>1585165
Retail players be like
>MUH TRUSTS
>MUH 8BOX
>MUH MONTHLY FEE
>MUH RMT AND BOT YELLS
YOOOOO ASURA IS FIRE
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>>1585260
>MUH RMT AND BOT YELLS
This exists on Horizon it just takes place in an unofficially sanctioned discord channel instead creating the retarded rule that mercing is 100% legal as long as you just don't discuss it in game even if everyone knows it's going on
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>>1585335
it's called sunk cost
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FFXIV fag here. Is Horizon beginner friendly? I mean like: will people tell me to kill myself for being a noob? I'm aware Horizon is a bit more hardcore than FFXI Retail, but i wanna try it out first since it's free and i don't wanna go through the hassle of setting up that FFXI client. Thanks.
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>>1585280
Not RMT and not bot, get fucked moron.
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>>1585345
>I mean like: will people tell me to kill myself for being a noob?
It's usually not that direct, you usually will get bullied more passive aggressively like people suddenly having to leave without warning after you make a mistake or people refusing to help you with shit that's necessary for your progression.
The people who play on Horizon are typically like 30+ year old people who still behave like they're in middle school and this extends to the players doing end game shit that you probably won't be allowed to do anyway unless the Illuminati has some use for a warm body to abuse
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>>1585345
For the most part yeah, you may run into a retard that can't believe you aren't leveling your 13th job to 75, but as stated, they're retarded. Most are happy to offer advice/help if you tell them you're new
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>>1585352
Mercing and RMT are inextricably linked. If I pay you $100 over discord to go farm a full set of sky pops for me is that not RMT? If I pay your LS for a defending ring drop is that not RMT?
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>>1585362
Literally no one pays real money you dumb fuck, you literally don't play or browse the discords you mention, kill yourself
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>>1585365
>Literally no one pays real money you dumb fuck
Yeah I'm sure lmfao. People pooping into their socks running low man dyna on 3 characters just to get their relic faster but nobody is cutting the corner of just paying real money for shit
get real
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>>1585377
Correct, thank you for conceding your retarded point. Consider browsing the silk road discord and noting that prices are only ever mentioned in gil next time before posting!
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>>1585384
And what prevents someone from just DMing someone privately and arranging RMT...oh right nothing
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>>1585384
People are more than welcome to advertise RMT on Silk Road. It'll be great evidence when filing tickets.
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>>1585389
Probably the fact they ban RMT to the point they banned a staff member caught for it, could you at least try to make a decent point once, retarded faggot?
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>>1585393
This is like saying because SE did RMT banwaves that there was no RMT on retail XI
You are simply in overcope if you think that there's no shady shit going on on Horizon
Next you're going to tell me that every single ladder pull on the server happening right after Aerec&Co used it enough for the general populace to discover is also a total coincidence
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>>1585398
>still making no good points
Back to eventide with you
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>>1585401
There's no point I can make to convince a cultist like you
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>>1585407
Sorry you're a paranoid schizo that thinks le Boogeyman Eric is out to get you
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>>1585424
It's not paranoia to think that RMT is secretly going on, it's naive to think it isn't.
The same way that it's naive to think that Aerec and Co couldn't simply go to the silk road discord under a psuedonym and ban everyone there for merc servicing because it's "technically not allowed" but they don't because they're benefiting from it themselves
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>>1585431
I genuinely hope you receive the professional mental health care you greatly need
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>>1585441
You acting like I'm saying schizo tier shit when it's literally the most milquetoast takes possible just proves you are fucking delusional
Your only assurance that all this shit isn't happening is "They banned some disposable literal whos!"
It's called a scapegoat
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>>1585448
Seek mental care
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>>1585345
the game is just really streamlined on private servers thanks to things like mobs despawning, mobs not spawning on camps, camps tailor made to be chain 5+'d effortlessly etc etc. This has caused it to become VERY easy to level with insane xp/hr with NO threat and on top of people having a ton of experience already they just no brain it
this leads to things like when someone has no idea what they're doing, say a THF with no acid bolts or messing up SATA or bad gear it's very obvious
but really you don't need the best gear to level in this game, chances are people that have relics now were lvling to 75 in lvl1 gear. Because they knew where they belonged (a static with other nolifers) and succeeded from having more time than anyone else. That's the first rule of this game really. If you are really a new player I suggest joining a nice LS or two, always be open to finding new LSs if things don't work out and be open to improvement.
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>>1585345
>FFXIV fag here. Is Horizon beginner friendly? I mean like: will people tell me to kill myself for being a noob?
I won't say it to you directly but I will talk to my LS about the dogshit player in my party and scream at my monitor



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