Season 7 ContinuesCNS lazily poked with a stick to actually do something Blast Off now has one week left, pre-order streamer bath water for extended rewardsThe Absolute STATE of Heavy ratifies itself as a nation after death of respected civil rights leader, Sledge HammondJoin "Vidya" to play with other anons
You know, for as much as the improved destruction was shilled, it's really being held back by the fact that few people actually know how to knock down stuff like the crane
>every WT match i get at least 1 diamond/ruby team>still win half the time>get gold 4 from placements, never play any more rankedhow hard is it to get to diamond if im already able to beat them with good teammates just seems like a grind
>>1848675WT is easier and teams tend to grief less
>mfw theres still now level entry barring low levels from ranked yh i think i'll stick to wt. im literally paid to grind
AAHAHHAHAH.the light goys wont know what hit em once that lockbolt touches the ground. my precious revive tokens and holy cashout will be completely safe after their team is wiped from the matched. This Tournament is as good as minesAHAHAHHAHAH
cool shooter absolutely cucked by obnoxious game modes, goofball equipment selection and visual style. this soulless piece of shit will never get very popular.
>>1848959I chalk it up more to swedish developers doing what they do best
>>1848959>obnoxious game modes, goofball equipment selection and visual styleBut this is known as SOVL>will never get very popularBased. Fuck normalfags.
>>1848675Diamonds and rubies are much more likely to be in a 3stack in ranked than in WTI generally find ranked to be easier than WT up till about mid platinum
fffriday night finals
Sorry for low quality idk how to make a good preset for handbrake
>>1850482nice one anon! for my recordings for the finals at least, I just used the steam recorder which is good at making pretty small sized recordings, then just put them in a free online converter to strip the sound and squish it a bit.
>>1850495I use steam recording too, although sometimes it corrupts the preview file.I used to use the online conver but found it unreliable and slow
>>1850522ah I can see that, the one I use has it's issues. I haven't been using the steam recorder for very long though so I don't think i've ran into the preview file being corrupted yet, I mainly just use obs for other games but figured i'd try steam recorder on finals since it seems less performance impacting.
>>1850522The cloudconvert website works pretty well and doesn't take very long for the conversion. From upload to download was about 20 seconds for this one. lol filename, it's not about being impressive it's about looking cool
Is the V9S power creeped? Whats the best light weapon for a serious gamer?
>>1850577it all depends on how you play, if you like staying close to the enemy team then the shotguns or melee would be the better choice but if you prefer to keep your distance the other guns would be a better option.
>>1850578you'd be better off not typing anything at all than this.
>>1850581well the ideal weapon won't do it's job if you don't use it right desu
>>1850583what is the objectively best light weapon if you're a god aimer at medium range
>>1850586if you're good at medium range aim and can hit headshots consistently the bow would be a good option as you'd only have to land two full power headshots to take down even a heavy, and it can be fired faster for less damage but can still get headshot multipliers on non fully charged shots, plus you don't have to worry about reloading.
>>1850577>>1850586XP45, as alwaysIf you wanna be an annoying piece of shit, use the SH>>1850578>>1850589Do not listen to this guy
Laske is a cheater with dev protection and he's going to be competing in the 100 000 dollar esports tournament they're having later this year.>8 permabans from Finals>each manually unbanned>2 VAC bans>been reported over 4000 times>god knows how many temp bans from reports before he got whitelisted>0 hours in aimlabs>27 minutes in kovaaks>claims the bans are due to anticheat mistaking his aim for aimbot or wallhack>27% of friends list have bans on record, some have multiple>has an alt account with the same name>34% of friends on his alt account have bans on record, some have multiple
>>1850603Everyone cares so much
>>1850592while the sawn off and mp5 are good I said it'd be good to use the bow with his pretext of if you have god aim, as the sawn off will not do much damage at all outside of short range, and the mp5 will have to reload after killing a heavy, while the bow can keep firing.
>>1850592And depending on the way he plays those two weapons could be his best performing options, like I said in >>1850578
>>1850608The XP performs at all the ranges that matter anyways so who caresno pro uses the bow except for that one streamer I met a few timesSH works just fine, just equip dash and getting in range is never a problem
>>1850603Don't forget that he somehow got a contract with Pulsar lolthe fact alone that he's a filfthy chink should have been a hit yet as long as you have the devs on speed dial, you can get banned as many times as you want and they'll do jack shit
>>1850619I was just saying at medium distance because that's what anon specified.
>>1850603There's a reason why this game will never take off competitively. They have the biggest amount of cheaters running around in any fps and the devs actively protect some of them. Theres so many retards that are blatantly using xims on console and cronus on pc. I wouldn't be surprised if embark is getting a cut from these cheat selling websites.
>>1850577>>1850586arn-220 has good damage at range while also being a reliable full auto close up93r is good atm beats both mediums ARs the bow is great in the right handssh1900 is definetly the most bullshit weapon right now but you need to play a certain way
>>1848959the people who desperately wish for this game to be completely lacking in sauce are weird like do you think this game would have even the niche playerbase it has if it was just a mobility shooter with boring rifles and standard gadgets like u seem to want it to be
>>1852244nta but it took a whole season to get one new game mode and TDM was introduced in like season 5. People like familiar gamemodes.
>>1851658The 93R is better than the V9S now? I thought it was made for console players since they cant click semi auto weapons like the V9S as fast...
>>1853160i believe it is yes i dont use either but ive noticed its one of the weapons sweaty ass lights have switched to since mid season 6
>>1853160Whether the 93R is better depends more on your playstyle. The 93R vs the V9S is basically the same situation as the XP vs the M11: the latter is noticeable stronger and hits important thresholds that the former doesn't, but the latter also has a much tighter and shorter falloff range, so players that are bad at Light or don't want to take risks with going in can take the former, because living to do the job slightly worse is better than dying while trying to do the job better and ending up not completing it at all. Basically the same kind of "if it's more usable, then I think it's better even though it's weaker" mindset that has dominated the game since the beginning, like when the S1 FCAR was considered a menace solely because it had a red dot
>>1853421Good the retard is back, how were the vacations
>>1853160It's only gotten straight buffs for like 3 seasons in a row, if you play on controller it legit beams with zero recoil, it's like having cheats
>>1854115What
>>1853160I like it better because I find it annoying to have to click so damn fast with the V9S. The LH1 is already a little tricky to max firerate with.
>>1850586>god aimerAnything with a 2x headshot multiplier like the LH1:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1Ud7Rdl3AgMw9mmfDwW2LtDMnzZQ9IIhnqSE4ivsaMTsAs you can see in this spreadsheet, weapons with a 2x HS multiplier almost always beat the other weapons in the same class when it comes to headshot TTK. The LH1 and dual eagles are particularly strong weapons overall, while the revolver is viable but a bit clunky, and the sniper is mostly a meme for terrorizing Power Shift.
>>1854226lol he keeps posting spreadsheet shit instead of actually playing the gamethis is why you're stuck playing world tour instead of ranked
Seems to be a lot of differing opinions, which shows decent game balance.What do ruby ranked light/dash players use?
I LOVE THE GOO GUN
>>1854403The XP, since S3, because it's the best light gunARN gets some useThe SH if you wanna be a fucking asshole
>>1854491I wouldn't be caught dead using any of this shit. The V9S still feels the most reliable
>>1848959Yeah the zoomer aesthetics of the game with the epic esport tiktok vibes are a huge turnoff, it's one of the most visually soulless game I've ever playedIt's sad because the game itself is fun
God damn I love the revolver.
>>1854117I liked the Beretta when it released so of course it's getting only buffs, just like the riot shield.
>>1854682damn that dismantle play was so smooth, the revolver is everything the LH1 should've beenHow do you get a crosshair like that?
hit 1000 hours (on steam)what do my stats/levels say about me?
>>1855072Says a lot about why the quality of the thread is the way it is
>>1854502Ok but you asked so
>>1855072>Turret level 6>no medium gun above level 5>light never touched>weapon with highest level is sledge>most used gadget is explosive mine>Negative KD (By a LOT)>Negative WRSometimes I'm reminded that I should never take anything you guys post seriously and that your opinions don't matter
>>1855072Nice>>1855228The rankoid cringes when he sees pure SOVL
>>1855233Yeah the SOVL of sucking ass at the game, there's a 5k difference between kills and deaths man, you'd figure the KD would be higher if he played only casual modes
>>1855259>there's a 5k difference between kills and deaths manSledge players know how to play those odds
>>1855264Sledge only players pull way better playsand even then, 1k hours
>>1855268>Sledge only players pull way better playsLike you'd know the real world of Sledge, rankoid
>>1855072I assumed console player as you don't use anything that requires precise aiming but evidently not
>>1854903This. It's pretty ugly but I like it for showing me the dispersion.
Learn goo gun to unlock your true heavy potential
>>1855462Wusses that turn on privacy settings are not to be listened to
>>1855468do you know where you are?
>>1855482Yeah, that's exactly what makes you a puss, dumbass
>>1855462finally someone with good stats
This mode makes me want to kill myself
>>1855732why
>>1855733I suck at it and can't win
>>1855732I thought it was interesting and laughed my entire time playing it but have no interest in ever playing more than 1 match of it.
>>1855732Had they picked a better arena and didn't force low grav I might be able to enjoy it more. But its kind of mind numbing when the strat is just continuously bouncing on jump pads otherwise you get nuked. My only hope with this event is that they go full fun mode on the next event and enact a randomizer like some servers did in TF2.
I'm getting so fucking sick of this game itt's literally the most teammate dependent team game I ever playedyou depend on them so much it's unbearable
>>1855954YeahSpawn>bounce pad>get a kill maybe 2>land>die>repeatIs extremely boring
>>1855154>>1855228>>1855300>most used gadget is explosive mineits dome sheild and pyro mine is higher too>you'd figure the KD would be higher if he played only casual modesi mainly play soloQ WT on ASIA but im from OCE so ping makes things harder (i just want the free multibux)i never really cared about KD, especially cause of tactical team resets also a large part of being a hammer/flame main is charging in, dealing loads of damage, dying, and having teamates clean it up and rev youif you can get a pocket healer obviously thats better but i play with randoms so i get what i getalso yeah i cant aim, thats actually the main reason i play this game, you can still easily win without aiminghavent touched sledge since the season started, just do flamethrower now but it seems to level incredbily slow
>>1856144Not really, just play light and do it all
>>1856343yeah tank and charge through walls as light, or dematerialize the point as light, or put mines on the point as light.
>>1856348Just be in a good vantage point and have clear sight of the objective, bring glitch grenades for shields and you should be golden. Defending the point is the easiest job, attacking is way harder
Always tried my best to make a childish/loli design but none of the clothes really allow for it, might just go into a more sexy look, despite the game trying hard to be chaste as possible.These cheetah print pants actually give you a surprisingly nice ass, what do you anons think? Could I make something provocative with these leggings?
>>1856961you can use the wrestling pants to give them massive thighs
So fucking badass
The thermal bore is so much better than the satchel charges wtf were they thinking?
What the fuck causes my game to crash once an hour?What setting is it?
>>1857080>See thermal bore>Hack wall before it goes off>Unhack it back into placeIts funny to see lights get annoyed I can refortify my areas faster than they can break in.
i'm going to drop this game because the retarded zoomer shit "ssh" emote every character is doing is getting on my nerves so fucking muchwhat an absolutely vile aesthetic, no wonder the game didn't take off
>>1857554shh
What is this ST currency and how do I use it? Clicking it brings me to the Battle Pass page but I need to buy them first with the real currency.
>>1857633Its retarded bullshit tied to the older battle passes. When you buy the old pass you use that ST currency to buy your items rather than getting it through exp gain. For those who don't purchase the old passes its just a worthless currency you can't use.
>>1857640dang thanksgood thing cosmetics in all f2p games look like shit
>>1857651Tbh I don't entirely mind their system since 1 battle pass pays for any future battles plus a bit extra. I skipped the season 1 BP because as you said, the items present in it looked like shit. I nabbed the one for the 2nd season though and its paid for itself since. But yeah the shit I hate is the stuff you can only buy with real ass money or when they introduce a new currency for a very exclusive group. Just seems like bloat to me. All in all its a game in first person, so at least its easy to ignore the cosmetics if nothing catches your eye.
>all melee weapons receiving tuning in 7.6>Sword specifically getting a big tweak PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD BE BUFFS.
>>1857696anticipating an extremely light touch because casual players and pro players are united in hating funny variety weapons. the comp players want a dirty bomb sequel and the casual players want battlefield.
So what do I play when my team is 2 lights? Nothing they do helps me win and nothing I do helps them win except defibrillator.
>>1857655They remove all the tiers that give you currency when you buy the old battlepasses, they do not pay for themselves unless you're doing the one for the current season
>>1858224play like you dont have any teammates you wont win just avoid groups and kill singles
>>1858224>As a MediumDemat, Double Mobility, CL40>As a HeavyJust do kinda whatever
Sonar or Glitch?
Do red dot sights lower your ADS speed?
>>1858321glitchif the team is huddled in a dome sheild with a heal ball knowing where they are isnt going to help much
>>1858352I see a lot less shields these days, a sonar seems to have a lot more consistent usefulness. It always makes the enemy team freak out and scatter
>>1858321If the team you're against is good, glitchif not, sonar
>>1856325I mean your wr is also negative so
Light's c4 charges need a buff, there is no reason for them to have activation time anymore. They should be instant and even be used like COD style C4 for some decent damage.
>>1859036They should just make light and heavy's c4 the same
>>1859036They serve zero use especially since thermal bore does the same thing and if we're talking about raw destruction Demat>>>>>every single destruction tool ingame
>>1859046>if we're talking about raw destruction Demat>>>>>every single destruction tool ingamerankoid demat trannies lost to a piece of metal on a stick and the fact that it doesn't have a limp-dicked cooldown on running through every building in the map
>>1859036>light>buffstopped reading therebut for real the light c4 is used for demolishing buildings or wide areas, not damage
>>1859039retard
>>1859068Rent free
>>1859165I just want more explosions is all
>>1859182There is no building to rent: the hammer broke it and turned it all into rubble that the rankoid demat trannies can't properly get rid of because their destruction gadget suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucks
>>1859201rentfree
>>1856961If you want something akin to a loli design the best way to go about it is dressing her in cute clothes and finding an emote that can accentuate your preferred aesthetic such as >>1788610.The cheetah and zebra stipe pants are both very nice, I have my own preferences though, that being the wrestler pants/archery set pants first (same model but reskinned) because they have a modeled cameltoe as seen in >>1569971. After that I would put the tights/leggings and the sentai pants, the joggers are great too but are outshined by the others in the list.Another thing to take into account is height, as light is only 146 centimeters tall ingame as opposed to the official height of 158cm, the former being a generous measurement from the top of the ahoge as opposed two the measurements for the other two classes which were within 1-2 centimeters of their officially listed hieghts.
I haven't played this game steadily for like a month and a half and honestly, I kinda don't miss it.
Anyone soloQ to diamond? Kind of hard stuck bouncing between plat4 to plat2
Man I don’t know if I’m getting burned out or what but my aim skills just went down the shitter, can’t hit a shot to save my life anymore.At least I can still make fits, been running this one for a bit now. Enjoy my shitty photoshop skills
>>1860941nice one
>>1860571Just got back into it after like over 7 months of not playing and am still having a lot of fun, just wish they would stop nerfing shit and rebuff everything
>>1860941lose weight
>>1860941Stop playing for a while
>>1860941Have sex
>>1860941climb a mountain
Silver is pure hell
>>1861905If you can't carry your way out of silver you belong there
>>1861905How did you even manage to land in silver in the first place
How the FUCK does invisibility work now? Are you completely invisible when you stand still? Do you only make the invis sounds when you move?
Why does my game consistently crash after an hour of gameplay?
You are guaranteed to get the lowest IQ ethnics on your team every time, ranking up is pure hell. Most kills every game while my teammates average 2
>>1862690>>1857112could be the recent issue with steam overlay and nvidia systems
>>1862695matchmaking is based on region=ethnicity, silly anon
>>1862759Are you new? The whole world plays on North america with 300 ping as the only way to find a match
>>1862815that's because the rest of your countrymen quit
WHAT THE FUCK IS CAUSING THIS IT NEVER CRASHED THIS MUCH BEFORE
>>1862828Consider switching to DX11 if your aging GPU can't keep up with the updateds
>another round where I get 10 kills and my teammates get 2 each
3 more days before melee is allowed to be viable again.
>>1864258>"tuning">not buffsYeah, sure buddyAlso, it really cheeses my nips that they didn't deliver it during this week of World Tour where melee weapons have an extra boost in relevance.
>individual performance no longer matters whatsoeverI cant keep playing this shit. Its killing my soul.
>>1864365Team game nigger, chasing kills nets you shit and means jackshit if isnt for stealing or defending
>>1864269Just let me have this hopium man. They specifically called out that the sword was getting something big.
>>1864383You're so smart
Pic related is how it feels to master the goo gun>instant goo cover>shielding healing emitter with goo>stalling by gooing yourself>goo-locking enemies>gooing demat entrances shut>gooing cashout walls in advance so they can't be dematted>gravity cube on cashout + goo hammock>goosplosions to break walls and entire buildings>covering firing goo at rooftop / suspended structure campers while you and your team push with pad or zipline>covering enemy statues with goo
>>1864365>class cropped out>basically no revives>non-Vidya tagmmhm
>>1864411he is smart, also notice how your team has the lowest support score out of all of the teams
>>1864269tuning can mean buffs
>Glance at the reddit>upvoted post saying "this is how much it takes to counter the double barrel!">it's a PS5 heavy missing half of their M60 shots, spamming gadgets to make space and somehow slopping their way to victorythe consequences of not standardizing gyro are unfathomable
>>1864753>gyroYou're making heavy hungry
>>1864750yeah thats the reason we lost
>>1865021Yeah probably
>join game>have fun>3 days in>all lobbies are now 100% assault rifle and smg>no longer funwas fun while it lasted
>>1865489Wait till Thursday. Trust the plan.
>>1865489inshallah medium's death is imminent either that or the double barrel will be killed as the casuals want, melee will be reworked in a way that ensures it still sucks and the total death of viable gimmicks will be assured
>>1865898I really dont mind double barrel because at least when I die to it I feel like the enemy had to have done something right like positioning or whatever.
Everything can be countered and played around if you have a brain, equalizing everything and getting rid of unique builds like melee, double barrel, cloak, dash, shields, flames, doesnt make the game more "competitively viable"It just dumbs it down for the predominantly shitskin audience.
what do anons think the new limited time mode is going to be? also what are the hopes and fears for it and the melee updates.
Ranked seeding needs to fucking goThere is no difference at platinum between a "very challenging" game and a "easy" game. But one gets you 600 for a win and the other 1400
>>1866300>what do anons think the new limited time mode is going to be?What are you, a retard? >hurr durr I wonder what the new LTM could be?????>when the teaser for it shows a sports arena with a ball spawning in>the same ball depicted in the trailer, bouncing towards a goal>DUHHHHHRRRRR IT COULD BE ANYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!>hopes and fears for the melee updateSpear gets official canceling for the alt-attack instead of emote canceling
>>1866313I do not remember a ball in the trailer
>>1866313for all I know it could be nama tama dropping in the center and a capture the flag type gamemode
>>1866313I see the ball in the trailer now, I still wonder what kind of rules/gadgets/weapons will be in the mode itself though, what do you think it will be? personally i'm hoping like lockbolts to try and trap the other team in place while you go to the goal, or smokes to make the entire court a haze, possibly even dome shields to bounce the ball off of.
What was the revolver with nice sights from the last thread
>>1868157this one
The game doesnt tell you you're anchored when you're on fire, dogshit
actually what is going on with this community mansuddenly everyone's saying goo nade is monstrously overpowered and needs to be nerfed to 1 charge- like dawg it's been in the game since launch barely changed what happened and why would you want goo nade nerfed before demat if the problem is medium with goonade is impossible to kill (which has always been the case again)
>>1868751They won't be a happy until the only viable weapons are full auto rifles and the only viable gadget is the frag grenade
this update is itit will make or breakthe decider to quit or stay fix my fucking hammer>inb4 just a store update
>>1868846hammer... was not fixed
>>1868872its over>but we made it easier to hit people!!that was never an issue, dont know why they even changed it
Man riot having an actual chase tool like winch feels so good. I hope they take that into consideration for the medium in general. Only option against lights currently is luring them into a closed space or goo nades since glitch mines got nerfed.
>>1869033im pissed they took it from heavy desuslow as fuck, dome and barricade dont do muchmedium is def the way to play, just winch and place jump pads on an angle
New mode is boring, melee changes suck, and their justifications are retarded
Man, I wish I was as retarded as Light players.The Sword was never hurting. Its fastest way to kill people has literally never been touched. None of the nerfs to the Secondary Attack ever took away from the combo's ability to get eliminations. The only problem was: Lights are and have always been dumber than a sack of bricks. They are objectively the biggest losers in the game, and fail to utilize any of their loadout properly beyond how they decide to in the first 5 seconds of touching their tools--and it's basically never the right way.As such, we still get the "pander to the gay retard babies that scream the loudest" balance changes that take up dev effort and focus, not only restoring some of the old thresholds for the secondary attack but also buffing the primary attack that has always been perfectly fine.
>>1869193I can't believe they just openly stated they hate tech and made the sword feel like ass on purpose. Sledge is still a neutered piece of shit. The only thing keeping sword together was dash and they fucking deleted it from the game meanwhile dagger is still allowed to dash backstab???
The goal mode is good. I've always wanted more shooters to try their version of UT2k4 bombing run or S4 League touchdown. Shame it's melee only for now. Hoping to play it with guns in the future.
>>1869088>im pissed they took it from heavyMedium would have no way to land hits on lights otherwise. That being said heavies having charge is slam fucking sucks. Its so worthless compared to what light and medium have for the mode. That being said riot chads we are so back. Hits actually register and it doesn't feel like you have less range than a dagger. I still need some time to check things over, but they may have fixed the shields hit box since I was able to actually tank shots while running diagonally like before.
The view lock on the sword lunge is so fucking bad holy shit. Just on a horizontal plane it completely ruins the weapon in so many ways. People holding corners or doorways are impossible to hit if they hide right behind it. And if you look straight up or down when you lunge the fucking camera gets forced to look away at a 40 degree angle from eye level. Meaning if someone is above or below you you literally can not hit them.
>>1869342>I was able to tank shots while running diagonally like beforeI was still able to do that a couple days ago, might just have been bad luck on your part
>>1869402You do know the passive hitbox on the shield moves in an inconsistent way right? Like yes you can do it, but its not nearly as reliable as it used to be. Well outside of today's patch. Its kind of inconclusive until I can do more testing. Also someone in the discord said they fucked up the flame thrower, so it might be something else entirely.
>>1869510could just be more server hitreg issues
>>1869510Maybe you just suck
They need to start upping the power level a little bit again, man. The trend is that the game is getting lame with time. Tracking duels with decent mobility and destruction are cool and all but it's not the only thing i want to do in this game. there are still no good melee weapons anymore, and the weapons casuals vocally want nerfed are still "every great weapon remaining that isn't a ranged hitscan weapon"
Hello lifeless losers, just came back from a lil vacation what did I mi->sword shitters cryingHaha>cashbox despawns in overtimeThank you jesus
>>1869804>sword shitters cryingThe made the weapon even worse somehow. It was already F tier. Dual blades are still trash. Hammer is still neutered. Riot shield is better I guess? Enjoy every match still being hitscan assault rifles I guess.
>>1869818Go play mordhau, chiv 2 or for honor if you really wanna joust with your little cocks>muh tf2you can also go play that
>>1864365hey weren't you the guy that was into lolis
>>1864383>>1864551He only plays V9S Light
>>1869842which one?
>>1869203light players aren't even real, most people switch between classes/weapons regularly
>>1869834>game offers unique way to play alongside the same cookie cutter playstyle in every other shooter>bitch and whine until unique way to play is removed or nerfed so hard it might as well not exist>cookie cutter becomes dominant meta until EOS>players move on to next game to repeat the cycle
>>1870010The biggest whiners are lights when it comes to anything that slightly inconveniences them get the fuck outta here, I'm here to shoot shit, play a game that suits your tastes better then
>>1869938>light players aren't even real, most people switch between classes/weapons regularlyThose are Light Players. They're just coping.
>>1870011There's no hope for you. I am depressed that we live in a world full of people like you who will turn everything into the same slop.
>>1870011if anything light is the only class that's generally honest about their class lolheavies and especially mediums are the ones that are like "my class is trash now!!! you guys need to stop favoring lights!!" when despite being consistently nerfed over the span of the game there has never been a period where you're not either top 1 or top 2 best class in the game like heavy i kind of get it even though there are mongoloids who play that class like utter shit and think they're weak, because heavy went from an absurd juggernaut to a pretty much exclusively close range space controller that has to be played carefully to avoid getting zoned out. medium, though? literally none of the shit that's happened to them has seriously curbed their fundamental strengths and people will unironically say "medium doesn't have anything anymore!"light players will (accurately) tell you that they're the worst class in the game but they're also more willing to attack their own weapons if they're overtuned and when they're defending their shit it usually comes from a place of "it's fucking fun though" and not some pvre competitive pursuit place
I'm getting it from over 3 meters away by melee weapons, this feels like deadlock all over again
>>1869938I only use light, V9S, DashI see no reason to play the game for anything else regardless of how overnerfed it is due to console shitters being unable to turn around quickly.>>1870011retard
>>1870021NTA but i'd say every class has players that whine about their class being the weakest and ignoring the positives.
>>1870039meidum and heavy players are way more vocal about how light is ruining the game and their classes suck because they've copped way more nerfs over time while light has generally gotten stronger, because light sucked on launch and medium and heavy were juiced to the gills there are a few moronic vocal light players spattered around certainly
>>1870021>you're not either top 1 or top 2 best class in the gameHeavies are just better players, cope harder, lighttroon. That's why they're able to dominate the game with a fucking STICK, which you CRIED ABOUT.
>>1870055nah they should buff sledge. maybe do something to winch but sledge being in that absolute state is trashembark naming light when expressing their balance rationale for sledge is bizarre to me because winch was typically the least problematic for light
>>1870062>is bizarre to me because winch was typically the least problematic for LightEmbark has made it clear that they want a baseline that's balanced around the idea that there should be no quick-kill combos that are hard/impossible for the Light to escape except for those also used by Lights, which is exceptionally weird considering that the whole point of Lights is that they're to be extremely fragile, but whatever. It's weird but they've been somewhat consistent on that.At least, I presume that's the precise reason they refuse to actually buff the KS-23, since they're doing literally everything except one of the few things that makes perfect sense (restoring the damage to 120) because it creates a Winch Claw Combo.
>>1870050I agree that there's definitely more on heavy and medium
>>1870055for me at least, the nerf to sledge affected heavy to heavy combat a lot more than it did the other classes, as you can't kill with two overhead swings anymore.
If you ever had problems with light that means you suck dick and cant aim
Lotta retards in the thread
So the sword's thrust is worse now but m1 is stronger, does that mean that spamming m1 after sneaking up or opening with a thrust is good now?
>>1871468yes, by all accountshonestly a godawful rework, there were a few comp players who seethed at stab shenanigans over ideological reasons but the median casual player who hated sword don't like it for the same reason people don't like mediocre to bad weapons like CL and flamethrower, because someone can flail in your face and if your aim isn't consistent you die. they just made flailing in your face the default strategy
>>1871468>does that mean that spamming m1 after sneaking up or opening with a thrust is good now>now>NOWGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHTHAT WAS ALWAYS THE FASTEST WAY TO GET A KILL WITH A SWORDTHRUST > QM > SLASHES WAS ALWAYS BETTER IF YOU WEREN'T A PUSSY AND COULD DODGE IN CLOSE QUARTERS
>>1871497yeah but sword's tee tee kay was never very good so being an obnoxious dork playing hit and run was usually the safer way to play now that's not really good at all both because of stab raising your TTK compared to just slashing in someone's face and stab locking your mobility making stabbing your way in much easier to evade
Decided to finally stop crutching on the mesh shield after my first 100 hours because I kept trying to pull it up when trying to escape as a medium.My eyes have been opened to goo gun supremacy. I can also finally use the dome shield instead of goo nades too. Couldn't fit it into my loadout before.
>>1871468Yeah the lunge is pretty useless now. Can't even look up or down during it to hit people on zip lines. The game will force you to look eye level once you start the lunge. Basically removed all skill expression from the weapon and made it worse in favor of buffing m1 retard flailing.
>>1871468It's basically just a worse flamethrower for light. They removed all the flavor from the weapon in exchange for clicking m1 near people and spazzing out. Even if you hit someone properly with the dash you now have to wait to look at them as you fight the camera lockout. If feels super fucking awful. There's basically no reason to use it unless you're sneaking up on a bot from behind who wont react to you but then why not just dagger?
>>1872237The Sword has a significantly higher TTK than the Flamethrower>but then why not just daggerIndeed. That's the entire point. The people who were hyperfixated on the lunge were cock swarbling retards that were meant to be using the Dagger the entire time. These changes brings the focus back on the Sword's unique qualities and flavor.
new event is a lot of fun lol
>>1871468Reddit is praising this retard changeniggerbrained console players cant turn around quickly, thats why they changed it
>>1872336>These changes brings the focus back on the Sword's unique qualities and flavor.It quite literally has destroyed them what are you talking about? This is some mediocre bait either that or it's some copy pasted reddit post.
Light players seem to get the most butt blasted at nerfs. Oh no your class with the highest mobility, highest damage output, fastest health regen is getting dialed down so it can't one shot most classes. I look forward to the medium getting some trapping tool of their own to close the distance or nullify evasive dash so you guys can complain about that too.
>>1872818>nullify evasive dashHow come people shit post about games they don't play?
>>1872826Medium and heavy have a decent spread when it comes to choosing a spec. Light on the other hand has the majority using evasive dash and to a lesser extent grapple. Cloak is pretty mucy worthless. So majorty of lights use the crutch that is evasive dash. But you already knew that :)
>>1872893There's a fucking gadget called glitch mines. Do you know what it does?
>>1872897Which got nerfed to shit because lights couldn't handle it. How do glitch mines work in a chase scenario? Have YOU played the game? I'll save you the trouble and assume your next response is "use a gun" because you know I'm right that glitch mines don't invalidate evasive dash outside of enclosed spaces.
>>1872915The goalposts have been moved.
>>1872663I get it: you were retarded enough to use the sword wrong to begin with, and that low IQ means that you're incapable of participating in this discussion without acting like a complete and total mong, but I'd hope by now you should have at least somewhat learned to pass your posts by your autistic handle first and clear with him about how shit they are before stinking up the thread with them.
>>1873010Chatgpt post
I don't know why I pop in to check here anymore, it's all incredibly stupid drivel
>>1873031only the highest level of play and discussion happens here
>>1873031t. genuinely thinks light is good
>>1873768hey, that looks exactly like my gameplay!
>>1873940you must be awesoem then
>>1873945yeah, I am very osom
kabuki set added for (you)
>hit someone with sword lunge>Go flying past them>Can't turn to continue tracking them >Have to wait till the lockout is over to reacquire target What is the reasoning behind this? People keep telling me that I just need to get good and actually aim with the sword now but I'm doing less aiming than ever. Even when I hit with the lunge I get punished for it as my character stuns himself. It's easier and safer and better to just spam m1 with people slightly on my screen.
>>1874625just aim it like a projectile
i am seeing people use the sword again, and topfragso i think its back you just dont understand how to use it now
>>1874676That doesn't change what I said. It still causes me to go past people. So people are just spamming m1 instead of stunning themselves with their own weapon. >>1874706I understand it's just lame. You just mash m1 with people on your screen.
>>1874625>>1874737>more skilless retards crying because they can't adjustYou love to see it
>read The Discourse>CL-40 is so fucking stupid bro, melee is so fucking stupid bro, goo nades need to be gutted, shotguns need to be gutted>play the game>three guys with assault rifles and passable aim are by far the most threatening thing in the game every time
>>1876572Yeah automatic weapons with good range have been the top pick for every class but people still screech for nerfs to niche things.
>>1876605The simple fact of the matter is that the vast majority of players everywhere have no respect for anything except the basic assault rifle. It's why, while it's ultimately incredibly gay, Embark is speaking to a common sentiment when they talk about the danger with off-beat weapons being too good isn't because they're overpowered, but because they become """"frustrating,"""" and the people think it's frustrating because they think you didn't deserve anything you get with it. Splash damage will always be the big one. For me, a recent example was a game called Sector's Edge. It was a voxel-based destruction shooter, and one of the ways you could build your loadout was to go all-in on being able to rocket jump with the game's rocket rifle. Half the time, you'd get shot out of the air while using it, and you'd need to hit directs to get kills or else you'd get outpaced by everyone else's magsize + reload speed, but because people got ""frustrated"" when others used it and got "cheap" splash damage (even though you'd get more random hits/damage spraying with the automatics), they whined until the rocket rifle got nerfed into the ground and rocket jumping was removed altogether.
>>1876758I hate it so much man. It happens to every game, EVERY GAME. It's like every dev has some fresh idea when they start out but the majority of players try to turn every game into the same shit. It happened with Titanfall. It happened with dirty bomb. It happened with tribes. It's happened with this game with the devs even going so far as to say >We see ‘tech’ as a bug. When it disrupts balance or frustrates players, we aim to fix it, and in severe cases, may ban players who repeatedly exploit it.Like that's so fucking insane to me that they would ban people for using tech. They are open about their hatred for it and call it outright harmful. Could you imagine if every developer was so close minded and tone-deaf? Imagine quake or team fortress without rocket jumping, imagine no bunny hopping, air strafing, imagine halo without grenade bouncing items, bxr, etc etc. I just can't fucking stand developers who get angry at their own player for *playing the game wrong*. This isn't even the first time embark has done so and people usually call them out for it.
>>1876766one of the main devs of quake thought bunnyhopping was stupid, lol. shooters were always going to be a genre for idiots that want to feel cool for minimal effort 9 times out of 10. The few shooters that get deep on a mechanical level as opposed to just being brainless mechanics with aim muscle memory and generally applicable strategy are that way by accident.
>>1876771>are that way by accident.I believe the cool tech happens that way. But then it takes someone in charge who's not retarded and won't bend over when someone who is retarded tells them to change it. Like the story about rocket jumping in quake. That's how that one went. I'm not familiar with the story of bunny hopping though.
>>1876766It doesn't help that, nowadays, the average joe g*mer has become so hopped up on video essays and drama bullshit that they've become even more obsessed with the idea of what's the most balanced and purely expressed ideal of what a game is trying to be. Rather, it's something affecting all forms of entertainment, but it's certainly most frustrating with games due to their nature as more mutable products, and how their ultimate endgoal is just to have fun. Getting real sick and tired of people doing all they can to try to qualify away the idea that something is fun, all to suck their own dicks in the process. I mean, the sentiment has always been there, but good fucking lord it's ogtten worse.
>>1876774it was either carmack or romero, but one of them said that the fantasy of quake was supposed to be a gun-toting 80s action hero and that jumping around everywhere was never what they wanted for it.
>>1876789I'm gonna guess it was Romero because I swear carmack is the one who fought for rocket jumping. Might as well go look it up.
>>1876789Yeah you were right it was carmack who wanted to get rid of bunny hopping. What a faggot. I swear he was the one who showed other devs at id rocket jumping during a scrim between staff. Whatever. Devs are all faggots. They see players being creative and it upsets. They see bugs I see emergent gameplay. Something to be proud of and instead they hate it.
>the SH still hasn't been touchedThe freedom to winch someone and still loose the engagement
>>1876903Sledge will never be buffed again because lights are incapable of realising that they are the stupid ones for getting within kissing distance of a sledge heavy.
>>1876954I am a sword light and think the sledge nerfs were a travesty. It's not light players it's faggots who just want every weapon that isn't CoD autos to be trash.
>>1876954Sledge was never a threat to a dash liight, the time between a winch and the swing takes too much. same issue I had with the cerberus
>>1847720So why did they call it The Finals anyways?
>>1876766>Imagine quake or team fortress without rocket jumpingRocket jumping wasn't some unknown or unintended mechanic. There's even levels in the original Doom with intended rocket jumping sections to access secrets.
>>1877688>levels in the original Doom with intended rocket jumping sections to access secretsIsn't there only one and you don't need to rocket jump for it?
>>1877693The one everyone remembers is the secret exit in Ep3, and no it is set up around rocket jumping. If there's another method, it's not the intended one.
>>1873813good for my libido
>wanna chill>load up TDM>all lights with double barrel and dash>or mediums with riot shields>load up WT>tripple stacks of rubies>dash lights with bows that never miss a shotThis game fucking sucks actually, no wonder new players avoid this shit like the plauge
>>1876903sledge shouldn't have been nerfed out of that 2bh, double barrel balancing doesn't matter because any light will be able to escape
>>1877010The thing I really hate is that what you usually heard was>if Heavy took Hammer + Claw, then I'm forced to take Dash to not die if I get grabbedand their solution to this was to nerf hammer to the point where, if they have a Light and you want to use the Sledge, then you HAVE to take Claw and Pyro Nade to not entirely rely on your teammates to get the kill, and even then, if they have something like the double-barrel, then it inherently leads towards being a trade. That damn thing has a TTK of 0.75s; that means all the animations for swapping your weapon and that little delay before a grenade is thrown are already significantly eating into your opportunity to kill what's supposed to be the fragile glass cannon class that you're supposed to have an advantage against by having snagged them.
>>1878707Yet it's not an issue of the light class, somehow
>>1878712i genuinely don't think a single light player casual or otherwise will tell you that sledge winch was a serious problem, it was like 90% mediums and heavies complaining about getting instagibbed by winch because they (sort of) don't have as many ways to avoid the situation where they get winched.
Honestly I think the people in here who have been complaining about hitscan and also "gimmicky" playstyles getting ruined by braindead playerbases have the right of it. I genuinely think that's what's motivating embark at the moment, between what they've done and their comment about needing to balance melee extremely carefully They want to grow the game to further mass appeal. They want to make it an esport. To do both of those things the obvious thing to do is smooth out the edges- a lot of sweats hate dealing with anything that isn't movement and tracking. A lot of casuals don't respect anything that isn't tracking. gutting burst damage, gutting splash damage while consistent ranged hitscan stays more or less the same- that's been the trend from the start.
>>1872893This is game's fault, the grappling hook needs 2 charges I've been saying this since launch. Instead of making dash feel like absolute SHIT they need to give the light class some actual fucking options
>>1878738A lot of it was the Lights. They were uppity about the whole idea of there being a pseudo instakill combo existing in the game, with the "only counter" being not to get close the Heavies. It's just ridiculous, because like, that's the solution for all weapons. You don't want to get shot, you don't stand in the line of fire.That being said, there were some Mediums that were complaining about it, and I found their complaints to be equally funny: stuff like "it's unfair because the Hammer works best with inside cashouts and the demat can't quickly expose them to the outside and shoot them from outside their range," and it's like, oh no, boo hoo. The demat will just have to still be one of the strongest specs in the game.
>>1878786Are you kidding? That combo never worked I loved when heavies wasted that shit on me and I just dash out of their and spam headshots on them with ease. Medium players are the real blight, there is no reason for the class to even exist, there are so many games that medium players should be playing instead, the uniqueness of the game comes from light and heavy
>>1878798>a light player trying to gain favor and trying to call anyone else a blight"No."
>>1878816If light ever give you problems that means you suck dick at aiming
>>1878820Nope, performing well is where all the problems start, as it causes you whiny liggers to whine incessantly outside of the game.
>>1878832I never see lights complain even nerf after nerf, just look in the history of this general for over a year its filled with you fags crying about lights, every thread, every day. You know this little fag
>>1878863>of this generalOpinion discarded
I've been wondering.Shotguns in vidya gaems are usually balanced around having high damage with short effective ranges. Double barrel shotguns have the extra caveat of having to be a two shot kill or being considered useless, rightfully so.Who thought that giving the mobility class such a weapon was a good idea? It would probably be better if the Cerberus and DB switched places, not by much, but it would give people slightly more time to react and force lights to not be as spastic to land all 3 shots and mediums couldn't abuse the two shot machine as much due to lacking the dash and general movespeed of the light. Yes I know the demat exists and can easily force close quarters, but it isn't nearly as bad as a light dashing off screen 3x every time you fight one.
>>1878922the db is the way it is because when the game launched there were endless sources of ways to instagib light so rewarding light that heavily for getting in makes perfect sense. It also punishes missing more than something like the sword.the only other concept for a shotgun that really works on light is the matter, extended range and snappier extended mag. cerb would suck on light. having "no time to react" is the only way something as close range as the double barrel works.
>>1878863>I never see lights complainLMFAO Good joke
>>1881122lights typically complain because their fun shit gets gutted because of casuals and politician comp players who know light's shit isn't that good but just don't want to deal with itnobody who seriously plays light is buffbegging save for shit that's been nerfed into stupid gimmick status, meanwhile heavies keep insisting that they're the worst class in the game and mediums somehow make the claim that their weapons suck
>>1881322This. Everyone knows that Lights rarely ever bitch and moan and buffbeg.They only ever do that on days whose names end in Y.
>>1881416I've literally only ever seen lights ask for buffs for nerfed weapons while the venerable medium main is trying to argue that dual blades should give medium an inherent speed boost that makes it faster than light and the honorable heavychad is arguing that the MGL should do 50 damage, minimum
Personally i like to torture lightweights using weapons they complain the most after they have been nerfed forcing them to ragequit or change class, my only joy in this game
>>1881432>duallies give Med a speed boost >MGL should do 50 damage minimumHey, this guy is onto something. Just change the inherent speed boost to a meter that's gained as you reflect damage.
>>1882056This but let it build up infinitely yet have a brief time window before it expires. Deflect 99999999 damage to go full sanic and cross the map in 2s.
I can't help but say I'm a little disappointed. Super Cashball is still fun and clearly had some effort put in, but I was really hoping for a CNS Takeover this week. Really play up the hacker war aspect as they start to encroach on each other's circuits and such. Plus, the fact that there's not an actual theme for the mode, just the trailer music. CNS remixed the Valentine's stuff last time, so I was expecting them to bring the tunes this time.
What are these rewards? Can't find any info.
>>1884285those are just symbols representing what the challenges are for, the shield for blocking attacks with goo, the crosshairs for headshots or damage, the toolbox for gadget stuff, the cards for class damage/play I think and the play button for playing the game, which is getting cash and stuff.
>>1884307That's weird because they look like the icons for emotes and stuff from battle pass but ok thanks.
>>1884319they all give you XP unless it's something like an event or if you do all of them in a circuit.
I use cloak on light even though it's crap because I'm too lazy to put any thought into dashing properly. Easier to just hide around corners and occasionally rage when people gun me down at 40+m when cloaked because of how hilariously visible it is.
It'll be funny to see if SCB is gonna change any of the public perception regarding the winch claw. Everyone kept sharing "cheap cheap cheap" clips of it, but then you actually head onto the gridiron and everyone's whiffing with it left and right. Just basic side to side motion and people barely hit you with it.
Doesn't it feel kinda shitty to lose 70% of games instead of 50% with this format? How do I know I'm doing well or improving when defeat is so constant?
So, how do you anons feel about the Mythic skins? According to the in-game text on each Mythic item page, all of the available Mythics are going up in price next season. I quite like the ray guns (especially for the Pike), but not being able to use more anims with it is a bit of a bummer. I mean, we get some slick prairie twirl anim in the BP, but that won't work with the Ray Gun Redux skin afaik. Same for the cool OG ray gun.
>>1892831More bullshit with upmarked prices. I swear people cry about cod having overly animated weapon skins but somehow nobody bats an eye when this game does it.
>>1892831The price hike is the thing that rustles my jimmies. The whole thing with Mythics is that they're basically a skin and animations bundle you HAVE to buy together, but to compensate for this, they're unique, and the bundle together is ultimately cheaper than buying a Legendary + a full set of animations. Instead, they're using the tag as an excuse to raise the price, and they've already started to introduce basic Myhic recolors.It's just weird. Feels like there's a lot going on behind the scenes, given that they push for things like reducing FOMO with one hand, only to gut you with Ultimate Passes and Mythics with the other.
>>1892869CoD is supposed to be, or well WAS supposed to be, a realistic (looking) military shooter, which is why people have a problem with those.The Finals is up front about not actually being real within itself, its a virtual gameshow, so the wacky skins get a pass.
Goo gun + sledge is way too fun.
>>1892831Was expecting something like the price hike sooner rather than later.Nexon is involved afterall.
>>1893185lol nice one
I HATE DASH LIGHTS RAAAAHHH, KILL YOURSELVES!!
>>1893362every other light gadget is objectively worse
>>1893185It's funny how sword lights act like there's no survivability if you get in close for the swings, but then clips like this always show that even a Heavy is hard to hit when they get in close and capitalize on how turning rates work.
>>1893374I doubt it, I have yet to find anything more annoying than a double barrel with dash
>>1894016I think he means it's easier for him to use the dash than it is the grapple hook or invisibility cloak
>final round of WT, enemies wiped just in time>teammates stealing cashout, then just stops i dont think ive ever been so angry at this game wasnt like there was shittalking before or anything
>>1892831Don't really care, I spent money precisely once in this game for the first battlepass then never again, just been grabbing passes with the multibuck rewards ever since.
>>1894670same
>bf6 beta less than 2 day awayBros, it's been fun playing with y'allBut this stop is where I get offMaybe next time I'll see you on the battlefield
>>1894967don't worry when you come back there won't be anything waiting for you
>>1894222top kek
Does light Gravity thing even work at a top level? It seems like a slow that is simple to walk out or use movement ability. Am I missing something? Seems like Sonar + gateway is GOATED until final round and can swap gateway to glitch
>>1894967Destruction is tied to just a few key items. Like "THE BRIDGE OMG CAN BE DESTROYED"Almost everything in finals cannot only be destroyed, but in different ways each time to recreate the battle field.Battlefield looks like the best between cod/blackops but the destruction seems super limited to certain buildings and within those buildings certain parts much like R6Sbest part of the finals IMO is if you want you can legit just trash the entire playing field and turn the game into a closer range match on many cashouts
>>1894976The opposite of love is not hate. It is indifference. I'm sorry you love the finals so much you need to display that emotion via hate.Namaste
>>1894670Game is very generous with free comes tics. Makes me want to buy more, but with my first purchase of the battle pass so much stuff no reason to repay
>>1895176I like this game, that's why I hate it so muchamen
>>1894976yeah because it'll all be destroyed LOL
>>1895175>legit just trash the entire playing field and turn the game into a closer range match on many cashoutsMost of the time such destruction is only available to heavy and in cashout he gets sniped by lights faster than he can destroy one side of the buildingmovement/healing/shield meta ruined the game
>>1894967See you in a month :)
>>1892869>>1892876>>1893192Understandable and reasonable sentiments, anons. In spite of the bullshit, I ended up getting the raygun (redux) the other night because it feels fun to larp as a xenophobic alien invader. Kind of want to get the OG V9S raygun too, but I don't think its iron sights look very easy to use, and it's ugly with the red dot. It feels kind of shitty having the subtle pressure to buy sooner for the mythic stuff.>>1894670I did the same at first, but I have some MS Rewards money, so I'll get the premium pass that way. Idk if I feel it's truly worth it or not otherwise. I feel like the next premium pass will be cooler too. Damn it.
>>1895167It looks like a shit version of the cube which is already a situational gadget. I'm sure there are a few tricks to be pulled with it but it's probably not worth it.
the sentiment i've reaped from the finals discord is that light mains are jumped up and defensive autists, medium mains are ignorant normies, and heavy mains are the dumbest people you've ever met with the arrogance to match
>>1897267There is no point in being there except to potentially find people to queue with.
Had a WT match pretty much in the bag but the final round had 2 lights with very obvious no recoil scripts on their 93r.
>>1895167Vortex? Used to be decent steal deny (especially when the stungun was removed) and thanks to a glitch, if you put it inside rubble, it would be impossible to detect. Nowdays, very useless since even despite light having mroe flex spots than most classes, the only reasonable combo remains TP+glitch nades+Healing SMG.
>>1897798Sonar is better in early knockout rounds to keep from getting 3rd or alerting team of close spawning team
>>1897841Glitch is basically a must these daysTP is the light's equivalent of the defib for mediumHealing SMG is just so good at keeping your heavy alive.Sonars don't really help you prevent 3rd parties since they're loud and their range visible. I'd rather have something that shuts down heavy and medium's abilities or something that can instaheal teammates.
>>1895560Red barrels as light and I can easily bust down enough around buildings early game to flatten it. Just need to know where the major supports are in some buildings. Like Garage pillars for example just 1 red barrel can bring down the entire garage complex on vegas
>>1897853yeah, you can also go all in on destruction with light and be pretty effective, with c4 and thermite launcher.
>>1897900Sorry but breaching charges are incredibly uselessThermite has atleast the fire effect so it's decent for longrange demolition and goo removal but breaches are beyond useless. The real destruction is done by the medium anyways
>high risk WT>riot gets 1kCool, not playing this week
>>1898005dematerializer is not true destruction, it cannot collapse a building.
>>1898045For real. Demat rankoids are super sassy about their tool being the best until they actually face a strong defense that's only really punched through with real destruction, crumbling up to and including the entire building, and then their reply to this situation is to scream at Embark for nerfs to those strategies
>>1898045>>1898054Demat>>>all other destruction toolsyou can't fight the truth
>queue up with some friends>no ranked this time, don't feel like it>hop onto something quintessentially casual>powershift>first game>full 5 stack of rubies>second game>same dudes>they don't even bother getting on the platform>just camp high ground and farm kills>then straight up spawncampI just wanted to chill with my friends, we all ended up quitting and doing something better with our time
>>1898065don't forget that you can't actually break a structural object with the dematerializer, it's only a shortcut device for people who can't chase.
>>1898065trukedemat ruined the strategy surrounding breaching and deserves to be gutted. there was a time where medium fucking sucked at breaching a building and it was wonderful. they're a big part of the reason bunker comps just aren't a thing at all despite this ostensibly being a game where you can fortify.
>>1898065*goo guns the demat'd wall shut*
Wow, the bf6 destruction blowsI was really expecting them to maybe at least be on par with finals but it's not even close. Even bad company 2 had better destruction.
>>1898261that's dissapointing
>absolutely destroy the Sledgehammer>combos are gone>TTK against Heavy almost always loses>hitreg fucked up massively in recent patches>only gets you +$100 in Risk & Reward>sword gets buffed when it's already just fine>the fastest TTK combo with it was made even faster >gets you a whopping +$400 in Risk & RewardGetting reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeal sick of this shit Embark
>New Trench Coats added>New .50 akimbo skins is basically ebony & ivoryDo you really think youre that slick embark?
>>1898360>sword gets buffed when it's already just fine>implying
>>1898169>only a shortcut device for people who can't chase>the best chase/anti chase specalr
>>1898689>the best way to catch someone/cut a chase is by taking a shortcutlol
>>1898707>the best way to catch someone/cut a chase is by taking a shorter, faster route than your targetYes.
>>1898723>admitting it's a shortcut devicewhat're you trying to imply
>>1898734What are YOU even trying to say, it IS a device for making shortcuts by turning walls, floors and ceilings off and turning them back on, which is what makes it the best chase and anti-chase spec.
so is riot sheild actually good nowsince the buff i regularly lose to it with a flamethrower which seems dumb because it should be the most direct counter
>>1898738that's exactly what i'm saying, it's the best because it makes chasing and getting away easy modo.
>>1898803Just spin around like a retard and spam hits. You hit 8 out of 10 shots and do retarded damage. Main reason why I won't be playing WT for now
>>1898803A good riot shield player before could trade with a flamethrower. Now a good shield player can beat it 9/10 times now that hits finally register + the atk speed buff. Also keep in mind if you aim for the shield they'll still take damage, but the after burn will get blocked. If you want to consistently win against them, use spear. Thing fucking pierces through everything and can still out damage the riot shield if you just spin2win
>>1898803>>1898855Why not just charge/slam the shieldbug?
>>1899066I genuinely love when heavies use charge and slam. In most cases its used as a panic tool, so I just walk around in a circle until they're done and whack them in their shit.
>>1899088>it's mostly a panic tool and I epicly navigate it every timeYeah yeah, you people always say that. Now line up against the wall and take your 230 damage like always so you can go off and whine for it to get nerfed more, as you usually do.
>world tour diamond 1 (for multibux)>gold 4 ranked (from placements)>gold 1 quickplay>battlepass complete>sponsor complete>all contracts completeyep, im donesee you in a month hopefully i can go back to hammer next seasonplayed nothing but flamethrower this time
>>1900049>hopefully i can go back to hammer next seasonThe retarded devs have double and triple downed on how much they hate melee. Unless there's some big leadership change it's fucking over man.
>>1901443I look forward to next season and thus getting our, what, fourth wall of text where they desperately try to justify sucking the fun out of Heavy in order to make things better for Lights?
>>1901455It's not about light vs heavy or whatever. It's just the devs despising people playing the game any way that isn't their intended vision. I'd bet money that next season dagger will get put in the ground for its second "rework". Meanwhile the ksg still sucks, the spear still sucks, sword still sucks, dual blades still sucks, etc. You will use an assault rifle and you will be happy.
>>1901462there's a ksg in the game?
>>1901547Sorry my brain mixed it up. I was talking about the KS23. Although now that you mention it I'm surprised we don't have a ksg.
>>1901462>sword still sucks>the optimal method that never once got nerfed for using the sword received a buff>it sucksSilence, lightoid
>>1901624You don't need to lie on the internet just because you personally don't like light.
>>1901631Just because you don't know how to use it to get its fastest TTK doesn't mean that the weapon sucks. It is, as they say, a skill issue on your part.
>>1901560next season for sure
>>1901547>steam watermarkthat's a new one
picked up the game again and of course all thats left are the unemployed lobbies
>>1901547MASTERPIECE
you can really feel the new melee changes
really wanted to try the game for a while now but it wouldn't even launch on my old gpu, so i got a new gpu but it struggles horrendously with my shitty old cpu now, getting about 30fps on average on minimum settingsam i fucking up something here or is this game really so cpu heavy? bf6 was definetely very playable for me
>>1905260I don't know, the cool stuff like resolution scaling helps a lot, did you make sure to turn of fxaa?
>>1905282yeah tried upscaling from 720p and it's 40fps on average now, everything set as low as possible, no aaminimum requirements are a lie
>>1905317it's true that they're a lie, my laptop supposedly doesn't meet them yet I can still play the game
>>1905260the finals is incredibly cpu intensive, but there's also incerdibly bad optimization problems and the classic UE5 jank.I have a 2070 and Ryz 7 2700X combo and I cannot run this game at anything higher than 70, with dips in 40 during heavy fighting. It is nigh unplayable and competitively unviable.
>>1905351oh well just two more weeks until i get the rest of pc built
>>1905317You made sure to turn off ray tracing right? I soecced a buddy getting lke 50fps then we went to his settings and turned that off plus some other stuff. He was up to 120 easily.
Not proud to abuse ARs but damn I just broke my TDM kill record
This "game" has a weapon where a person standing behind you in complete silence can left click and instant kill you. Imagine playing this and boasting about it lol
>>1901547Why do these ugly pieces of "art" always have the same oversized eyes and the general aesthetics? Is this some secret "I'm one of you" code, so they can recognize each other for their sickness, like the pizzagate thing?
>>1905538If melee weapons kill you, you suck dick
>>1905821People are convinced the latest changes for melee weapons were "buffs". There's no hope for people like him man.
>>1905538I know right? Snipers suck.
>>1905538I presume you're talking about the dagger, but that's its right click secondary attack. You have to time the stab charge and release properly or it does nothing. You also probably need to use the dash.
>>1905482brother i'm cpu bound with a pretty good gpu, odds are i could max the graphics and still be at the same 30 fps
>>1905538they just abuse the netcode and get facestabs all day long with the dash.
>>1905524There's no fucking way this is real. Either your enemies were literally staring at a wall or there's something fishy. Not even etelco or laske gets kills this high.
>On powershift with friends>just chillin farmin kills and wins>next match is versus a full light team>oh boy>whatever try to play normally>TTV cunt kills me once after I dome him twice>tbags me and does the voice taunt>alright, it's on>switch to CL40 and go full aggressive>whenever I spot him, I make it my mission to chase and kill him>then proceed to give him a good old tbag, taunt and voice taunt, the whole nine yards>they get absolutley demolished>decide to check if he's streaming>he is>i join the stream right as he's reporting me for "cheating with the CL40">proceed to shit talk him for being so bad he's dying and throwing hackusations to a guy running CL>"it's so obvious bro" he says in his croatian/slav accent>bans me from the chatDon't start nothin, won't be nothinbut seriously how bad do you have to be to believe someone is cheating while using the fucking CL40, get a grip man
>>1906046jej
>>1905538This game has a gun that can 2 any class and an ability that can be spammed 3 times to avoid bullets, on the same class.and 2 melee weapons where the best strategy is to swing them around and you'll win most upclose fightsthe dagger seems mild in comparison
>>1906052> that can 2that can 2 shot*
>>1906052Yeah, and that's frustrating too. But it's an order of magnitude frustrating to not even be given a fighting chance, and to not even see it coming. Dashing around you and swinging the sword is going to get you killed 80% of times, but you get to shout about it to your teammate, you get to at least get some hits on him, you get to make him waste some time while you also try to jump around and spray and pray. On the other hand, you simply stand somewhere and die in a single frame. The game is balanced like a slot machine: have each team composition on average achieve the same win rate. That's how you balance gambling. That's NOT how you "balance" a game for being fun. I don't care that he has the lowest HP and that he also has weaknesses, he gets to rob me of playing the game by pressing a single button. I don't care how hard it is and what he has to time. I am given no indication about him doing anything, I am given no chance to fight back.Here's how you can fix the mechanic: have him plant a bomb on you that will kill you in 5 seconds, and even deal AoE damage, unless he dies in that timeframe. He can't use his ability during this time. Now he needs to run away, and now you have a chance to either try to chase him, inform a teammate about his position, or just move away to minimize the damage (or maybe run kamikaze-style into an enemy). See how it can be fun and balanced to play an encounter? But no, let's just make a weapon that bonks and kills el em ay oh
>>1906346Nigga you got ambushed and snuck up on by a melee weapon. You let a melee user get that close and get behind you. That's the counter play. You fucked up. You deserve to lose. Especially when it comes to dagger of all things.
>>1906495Nigga you can put. A lot of periods on your sentence. It still won't make you a real woman. You still have a poop hole. Try harder. Learn to read. Embrace the gray matter.
>>1905545it's just an art style.
>>1906532It's disgusting and oozes degeneracy. Why is this one in particular so popular?
>>1906570weebs, baka.
>>1906526>dies to a bad weapon>starts thinking of trannies and shit
>people are using more and more goonades>this is somehow a problem so we'll nerf it>we literally have no other justification, just stop using goonadesThis is getting STUPID
>>1907415Wait until you get a fucking light who keeps spamming them every 20 secondsUnironically a good change, now goo gun has more value to bring in the match
>>1907427This is not /vg/You do not need to troll and farm engagement to keep the thread alive. I do appreciate the effort though: you are seen, and you are loved.
>>1907415You know what? I'm gonna be honest, 3 players being able to seal any room within 5 seconds with 6 goo nades, possibly 8 if you count goo canisters too, is fucking op as shit and makes any cashout a pain to attackNever mind the fact not only goo serves as a door block, it also provides temporary cover, ledge, jumpad blocker, jumpad platform, zipline blocker, portable player trap, cashout deny, can move destroyed walls, block any fucking gadget, can make any heavy's life without charge and slam a fucking nightmare and most importantly, every class has it
>>1907441AlsoYou can't demat goo, you can't reshape goo, you can't destroy it with fire if it's in the smoke and BREACH DRILL CAN'T FUCKING DESTROY IT FFSC4, RPG AND FRAG, ALL HAVE ONLY 1 CHARGE EACH WHILE THE GOO NADE HAS 2THERE ARE ONLY 3 WEAPONS IN THE GAME WITH A SILENCER(ALL ON LIGHT BTW), THE REST ARE SO LOUD THEY WILL GIVE OUT YOUR POSITION IMMEDIATELY IF YOU TRY TO SHOOT A GOO WALL
me personally? i just burn it and waiti got time buddy
>>1907473>he goes with a pyro nadebronze player opinion discarded
>>1907415>we literally have no other justificationOh yeah? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZtRTlP0iQ0
>>1907415It was getting incredibly annoying that someone with 5 hp just tosses a goo and he's fucking gone. The real issue was also that it was immediate steal deny if you goo an enemy too.
>>1907474I'll never understand how people even mange to place in bronze. The only time I got bronze placed was when I threw my 4 placement games thanks to my 2 teammates that were unironically trolling. After that, I always place at 28.750 after I finish my placement matches.
>>1907441>block any fucking gadgetYeah, block this Pyro Nade after you turned the entire room into Goo. I'm sure gonna be crying about that. >>1907462>You can't demat gooThere it is. >you can't destroy it with fire if it's in smokeOh man, if only there was a way to instantly clear smoke as well>THEY WILL GIVE OUT YOUR POSITIONGood. Let them come.
>>1907483Who the fuck uses pyro mines unironicallythere also isn't a way to clear smoke "instantly" wtf are you on about
>hammer head event is just meteor showers with a monster on the side of the maplame >>1907485pyro mines are great too bad the heal balls better
>new event is just 3v3>the most boring game format>all this so people think the tournament is intrestingTournament mode isn't competitivley viable but 3v3 is fucking boring.
>>1907487>heal ball betterIt's meh as far as healing gadgets go, as a heavy your flex spot only has C4, barr or goo as a viable option, everything is either too situational or just useless
>>1907485>there also isn't a way to clear smoke "instantly" wtf are you on aboutUse explosives, dumbass.
>>1907415increased cooldown is rough but I thought they might take a charge away so this is ok
>the Goo had to be nerfed because using it enabled instant bullshitSo? Instant bullshit is good. It's the big wacky explosive game show game where it USED to be where every tool could instantly flip the battle on its head, and anything being "broken" was itself easily countered by just going ham with something. The game only started to suffer once people demanded Embark to unravel this chaos and do whack-a-mole nerfs, with the end goal being to appeal to rankedfags at the cost of draining the game's soul. We're reaching the end of the line now that they're dicking with the Sledgehammer and Goo Grenades, the two items that embodied the mechanic that sets this game apart, all because people want "the win they deserve" when they weren't actually trying to play the game to the fullest.
>>1907474players past bronze are too busy complaining to the devs about how they can't destroy goo with everything but it's direct counter lol.
>>1907441goo is easily the most versatile gadget in the game, that was known.
>>1907490Not how it works
>>1906617> can't spot terrible game design due to the urge to compare dick sizes over a free game for children
>>1906346the second part of that is effectively what dead go boom was, and it was awesome.
>Denuvo mentioned in patch notesFuck. They said they aren't using the DRM aspects of it, but still not a great sign.
>cerberus range buff>1887 gets one (1) extra shell in the tubeI miss my boy, why can I yee-haw and two pump mediums
>>1907655Stop gaslighting, bftrannyDon't you have a conquest match to ruin with your shitty cheats?
>>1907490It doesn't do that for me (on lowest settings) but it doesn't matter much since one grenade or c4 charge is enough to blow right thru a goo wall.
can I feasibly reach level 97 or whatever in the battle pass before the 27 days are upI want that free skin (the free poorfag version of the paypig whale ultimate one)
>>1908840yes easilybut it depends where you are at now
>>1908878I started playing today (I only played on launch like two times) and am level 7 after like 3 matches cause I won my first quick play quick cash game an got 4/5 daily missions in one go (I guess?)p.s. honestly all the characters being ugly as fuck UE5 generic models turned me off the game (along with the performance, mainly) but it seems to run better now and I also noticed that skin in particular (wish I could get the ultimate version which looks sick as fuck but I ain't got 30 dollars to spend on this shit)having a cool skin like that could get me to come back regularly desu
>>1906046Thats amazing anon. You should post this retards vod so we can get an even bigger laugh.
new to this game, just played against a team of fucking level 5000 faggot sweats (probably a 3 stack?) that ran around at lightspeed with riot shields that made them basically invulnerable and one hit kill swords????uninstalling this horseshit, was a mid 2 hours of gameplay
>>1909007But levels only go up to 2000
>>1909007Riot shields are terrorizing people due to recent changes to melee weapons. Most people seem to agree they're too much, so they'll probably get nerfed in the future. That said, you can counter it if you don't panic. Shooting the feet works, and environmental/gadget stuff does too. Heavy in general is a counter, especially with melee, fire, and explosives. If you're medium, you just use gadgets or mobility to get away and plink at the feet. If light, then you're faster anyway and can just run away since they have no ranged besides gadgets. Also, if you have a turret or even one team mate, you can obviously encircle the riot shielder and spray him in the back.Play TDM and try new things instead of blaming the game. It rewards creativity.
>>1909034>Riot shields are terrorizing people... Most people seem to agree they're too much... they'll probably get nerfed...>Play TDM and try new things instead of blaming the gamethese two statements kind of run opposite each otheralso that presumes I will encounter riot shields in my TDM matchesalso the last TDM game I tried to match into I loaded into the game and stood around for 3 minutes with only one person joining MY team towards the end (not even the other team to create a 1v1 situation), no one joining the opposite team and loading into the game even once, and the match outright finished giving me full match exp with nothing fucking happening even oncebroken, unpopulated game mode
>>1908882oh you prob wont get it then unless yo nolife grind idk
>>1909007swords aren't one hit kill, it's a combo
>>1909007hey reinstall it and play with vidya buddies, it'll be a fun time
the riot sheild + demat feels like pre-winch sledge but way better
>>1907906Because it's ok only if light does it
>>1909040>broken, unpopulated game modeTA exists
>>1908882>it seems to run better nowhow, if anything it's been running constantly WORSE. I had better performance in the fucking beta tests.
>>1909052the skillful combo ofcharged m2>m1 spam bullshit> winincredible
>>1909130Think about it this way:Weight starts out at 25lb, and then increases to 50lb later on. Later on, it decreases to 30lb. For the people that were able to lift up to 50lb, this is a noticeable decrease in weights. For you, that has a hard cap at 25lb, you still find it impossible to lift either way.
>>1909133You're forgetting the all-important quick melee after the M2. That's what makes it super skilled
>>1909134But it's a problem i've heard about with rigs that were much better than mine. For reference, I went from 120 fps on high at 2k to 60-70 at upscaled 720.And we're not talking about some sort of massive game with 60 gb of content and 20 players on screen, we're talking about a game with 10-12 players and in some modes even less.
Lights are a throw pick.
>>1909155Depends on the gadget. TP and heal smg are incredibly busted and a single glitch shuts down most heavies.
why are the spawns so fucking horrible>start a cashout>get swarmed by 2 teams constantly>we have to put 3 times the effort in a successful defence lest a team 3rd parties us AGAIN>last cashouts are always a gate of distance between themI'm sick and tired of this crap, it happened 3 times in a row! We didn't loose RS because thankfully we can manage but it's getting on my nerves because we don't deserve to loose because of bad map spawns allowing this to happen
>>1909156>Depends o-Rope faggot. Throw pick. Period. Hate you light niggers.
>>1909164Great discussion
>>1909165>>1909164>>1909156>>1909155samefag
>>1909197nah
Isd dsate thisanfsdjcdsjk ifgmgfda'l;ad afdg ';l,.shfdd';lkm,hfgs bl',hrtqwb ;'.lhrgfsI hate this fuckijgn game and I wanna spunhch msad y fucking monitor off my faguckidfngdfsmnigger fucki9ng5 desk and stomp it out
>>1909255I would laugh you off as a schizo but honestlyI feel like this too sometimes when I play this virtual torture device
Does the red dot look dumb on this to you anons? I want to get it, but the V9S' iron sights are so shaky compared to what I remember. Fuck...
>>1909255>>1909276Installed. Played for a few days. Quick cash games were alright. Tried world tour to get this contract complete, and I've uninstalled the game. Game is so ass.
Vid about riot shield counters came into my feed: https://youtu.be/mGZQDWOFc1QI know the dude(s) grumbling about it uninstalled or whatever, but I thought this was worth watching since they've been hard for me to counter too.
>>1909314It looks dumb but in a funny way, like red dots and other sights on the 87
i'm starting to become a dirty l*ght player because my team does 300 laps around the cashbox trying to kill a fly on the wall before even thinking about taking it to a cashout station. Why are other l*ght players like that? why dont they take the cashbox to the cashout station?
>>1910537It's not light players specifically, just braindead low elo scrubs in general who forget the main objective of the game. They want to feel cool and rack up kills, so they ignore the needs of the team; nothing new about self-centered cunts. Most competent teams play the OBJ unless everyone is already there to 3v1 or 2v1 a squad wipe and quickly rotate. The average people you get in solo queue are not so competent.
>TDM teammate running AK (and not hitting anything) complains about "noob tube">later mentions how AK should get buffed>finally, after having fed enemies for nearly two whole rounds, calls the team shit and ragequits with less than a minute remainingI don't have words
>>1906044It was real. I was running FCAR and playing on MNK. Notice how every enemy is on console. Doesn't show here, but they were also all new players, max 100-200 kills iirc. Matchmaking in TDM is often weird.
>>1906044>laskedon't give this cheating faggot any credit, permabanned over 8 times in the finals, even more bans in other games. never aim trained in his life and supposedly gets false banned by anticheat for his "legit" aim while nothing ever happens to kovaaks grinders.
>>1907462>BREACH DRILL CAN'T FUCKING DESTROY ITHuh? I have breach drilled goo before. Granted, the placement is sometimes weird.
>>1909255the one and ONLY time I have ever thrown a mouse in anger was during a Finals session it was kinda on it's way out anyways >>1909314Last month or so I thought maybe I was schizing out thinking that they had put more screen shake after the update that brought it down on most guns. I thought I was just imagining it but this post made me go watch old footage, and that's exactly what's happened. I fucking hate Embark.
>>1912521Is it that much more compared to your footage, or just slightly? I have an easier time aiming with my iron sights in my revolver by comparison.
>>>/vg/535576961I made a general for the Finals on /vg/
>>1912958404'd without getting a single postit can't get sadder than this
>>1912958>he thinks non-gacha can survive on the gacha boardrumao
>>1912958/vg/ is fucking cursed, unironically a containment board for real schizoids
>>1911882Matchmaking doesn't exist, especially in WT and Ranked
>>1912958You're either stupid or new if you thought this game could survive on /vg/ when the /vm/ thread is this slow
>>1913385It heavily encourages ritual-posting, avatar-fagging, and spam in general. If you don't have a few mentally ill freaks spamming softcore porn 24/7 you're not gonna make it.
>>1912547First clip is post-fire rate nerf, pre-visual noise buff I know it had a name idk what it was the second clip is from yesterday. Best way I can explain it is that it used to be that the gun only kicked and now the whole screen kicks. Kind of reminds me of how MW19 did recoil. Also if you haven't tried it, try using a skin that keeps the red iron sight instead of the 3 white ones. I find I aimed better with the former but maybe it's just in my head.
>>1914180There's an option to enable if you wanna be a pussy and hide an id that no one cares about
>>1914180have you disabled visual recoil in settings?ngl i dont even see a difference in the clips
>>1914180I can't tell if my eyes are betraying me, but I may see more horizontal variance in the second one. Then again, you were strafing side to side.>Also if you haven't tried it, try using a skin that keeps the red iron sight instead of the 3 white onesProblem is even finding skins that do so. I don't know about the V9S (I don't want to log in), but The revolver is a big problem...the only one with a decent red line is the Vaiiya circuit freebie revolver from last season. At best, you get a shitty yellow, so you're almost forced to use a red dot if you want to actually see with any kind of sunlight, fire, or bright walls.
>>1914189Visual recoil isn't a thing you can turn off
Are you really struggling against riot shield?I've been farming them all day in TDM. Just run away lol
>>1914920You don't get it anon. Melee can never be allowed to be anything but a joke weapon. It needs to be nerfed now!
Nerf CL40. For real this timeRevert the nerf of the XP54. What's the point of putting XP at 16dmg when M11 (an other SMG) do the same, faster & with more bullets ?Rework Nulifier (again) : When you get it by the "Taser" recoil is increased but you can still move as you want & you take 5 dmg/sec by the electricity during 3 sec. Can hit multiple target when you shootIncrease the hip fire of the CB01-RepeaterRework Vanish Bomb. Make it start regen instant. It will increase survability for the Light & it can be use for your teammates too !Reduce the radius of the reflect of the Dual Blade or let us shoot in the feet or something else to let us counter DB when you got an AR like Riot Shield.Nerf the range of the KS23. You can put 100 dmg at 20mNerf PIKE to 48 dmg instead of 50 dmgRework defib: Reduce the cooldown reset to 5s and give 100HP instead of 50% of your HP. It will force Medium to revive safer !Winch & lockbolt shouldn't do 5 damages. It's already strong enoughRework the ARN into a real AR ? Slower RPM but much more DMG. Something like the FCAR for example.The effort to play Light correctly is too damn high compared to Medium & Heavy class. There is no fun at all playing Light. When will we see a META with Light ?Share with us your data on all class. Light are getting vanish by 80% of the weapons in your game and can't get a proper 1v1 without get instant kill. You destroyed the stun gun. You destroyed the XP54. Everyone viable weapons or gadget has been destroyed by other class because they can't track properly an other class with 150HP.Improve your netcode/tickrate ! Dying behind walls is not acceptable at all ! Dash is not viable because of this right now !Flamethrower & hook should NOT get you through walls, doors and farer than it should beSword, dagger, DualS or all other melee weapon feels unfair when you think you're out of range and die anywayHaving good connection = Death behind wall, door, ect...BattleField 6 out, I'll leave this game
I miss mines and RPG doing 150 damage, those were better days
>>1914987>CL NerfNo>XP nerfare you retarded>Null reworksounds annoying. It's fine as is, it's not even used that much anyways>CB buffsure, it's an underpicked gun, why not>Vanish reworkYeah because light needs even more survivability gadgets>Dual Blade nerfIt's only threatening if you're bad at the game, it's already impossible to get an actual good reflect anyways. Easy as hell to counter>KS nerfBait or shitter>Pike nerfagreed, current high level top pick for mediums because of ridiculous damage>defib reworkit's fine as is>Winch and Lock nerfthat 5 hp isn't even enough to cover any important breakpoint. Does not matter to the fight but it is funny killing someone with the winch. Bare in mind, winch at launch did 15 DMG>ARN reworkThe only rework it needs is a bit more kick. It's a lazer gun if you have the most basic recoil control. Recoil is literally all vertical and the second mag gets slightly less recoil.>Light is hardPlay dash -> bind q to mouse 4/5 -> equip double barrel -> A-D dash/dash through people -> win 80% of the fights. They have the most bullshit weapons so far anyways.>share dataagreed but you lot will not like what you'll find>improve netcoderecurring issue since S1. Swede deves, preasu understando, gamedev is hard :(((>Hooking through wallsHardly an issue but I will say that winching though a door should not cut the chain. Bullshit.>Meleessword has always been a pain in the ass. Riot shield is retarded only because of the freedom to rush with few consequences it has. Every other melee atleast needs to think about their engagement. Riot doesn't, just hold W and A and you can sidestrafe with minimal damage taken. Magnetic melee will do the rest3/10 bait, made me reply
>>1915014>RPG did 165the ammount of liggers i'd 1hko was so funny.Unironically miss when mesh was 1150 HP, dome was 600 HP and lasted 12 seconds. Lewis did 25, C4 had 2 charges...good times, except nukes fuck nukes
>play ranked>challenging match>we're actually kicking ass>wipe people who actually know how to play the game>but the top team doubles the last cashout>and camp on roof and take potshots and any team who they don't want in>looseok>play easy/intermediate match>every>single >cahsout>is a fucking 3rd party fiesta>you have to work 3 times as hard to repel 2 teams>end up loosingthe spawn rework was a mistakeseriously EVERY FUCKING MATCH is an endless onslaught of team orange and then pink and then orange respawned and then purple just finished their cashout so they come by to say hi and then orange arrives again and then--
>>1915082I feel like the better solution to nukes would have been to make barrel/placed c4 explode immediately if you shot them, increase the risk instead of decreasing the reward
We are so back
>>1915851I don't think so
>>1915860Is christmas really ever over? I can't say I recognize the shirt so I think you've got me beat
>>1915866CB2 exclusive gear for top, bottom, watch and shoesgloves are OB
>>1915870Makes sense. Started in OB but the Finals OBT cap is old hat at this point. Need more cowboy gear
>>1915878many don't know this, but during the CB2 they released the Ospuze Cowboy outfit.It never made it through release and I miss it quite dearly
Light is the best class.>Burst Heal-- Legit best tool to secure cashout the burst heal on a heavy from 2 lights is the best heal source in game.>Gateway-- use to escape, attack, bamboozle, revive, or just sick style points.>Glitch Nade-- Team fight winner think AOE ult and you get two of them...> Sonar Nade-- Very good counter for teams that meta play smoke, good tool to help Randoms know where enemies are spawning & Pretty much makes you un-killable as light since you can escape and know where they are coming from.Guns have best DPS. If you are cracked, bow is a 1hk to all lights at all ranges literally anti light gun.grapple is the best specialization. I can track every light through dashes perfectly it actually makes flick shots easier to hit once you play enough most lights use dashes very predictably. You can also sky shot with grapple, chase further, escape further, 100% Safe Rez on any map.If you know how to bhop / conserve momentum, then you can also contest last second objectives better than dash can.Any light that uses dash is a noob needs a crutch for their poor mechanical aim, and not a seriously competitive player.
>>1916423You are most definitely a console playing retard
>>1914189Chalk it up to being tired for not just having a side by side like this first but they definitely added screen shake to the V9S instead of leaving it untouched. Look at how unstable the tree is vs the door frame or the spots on the wall.>>1914204Most of the unlockable skins for the V9S will have the red iron until rank 6 where they start doing triple white, Virtual Extension should have it too.>the only one with a decent red line is the Vaiiya circuit freebie revolver from last seasonRevolver Irons are so fucked but I like them more than the red dot for literally no reason other than I think they look cool. If you think blue > yellow, there's the holo retro or w/e that makes the sight blue.
>>1916824>>1914189>>1914204I used to use a third party crosshair overlay because The Finals has fake and misleading recoil. I stopped using it and just use a red dot for my V9S since it seemed to alleviate the issue. Am I mistaken? What should I be doing?
>>1916824>Most of the unlockable skins for the V9S will have the red iron until rank 6 where they start doing triple whiteExcept while I have many of them, I don't want to use those skins. It's irritating that cool skins will constantly have sight fixtures which bleed into light or don't track clearly at all. I could use the Vaiiya revolver skin for instance, since it is one of the few revolver skins with clear red sights, but not only does it not match my outfits, I don't want to rep Vaiiya; I signed up for CNS this season. I'm using a blue ISEUL-T skin for my V9S that has pink sights, but I think the tip is like a white or faded pink and barely visible in movement. I could use the S1 BP diamond gun skin, but same thing here; I don't WANT to use a skin just because nothing else lets me see better in the match.
>>1916600he's right, for the wrong reasonsgrapple really isn't the best spec because you can be tracked easy while you use it and it has massive cooldown. Dash on the other hand can be spammed and you can dash in any direction. Only thing grapple has that dash doesn't is the verticality but that really isn't an issue
>>1917132so he isnt right at all. Only a console player would think grappling is better
>>1917155The rest is (mostly) rightHealing SMG is heaps better than healbeam by a longshot and it's not a spec, light has enough flex to always have this onTPs are a must for light, if not just for teleporting the cashox to the vault but also for movement and bumrushes in generalGlitches shut down heavies almost completly and deploy pretty quicklySonars are ok, but if smoke/invis is a real issue for you, thermal is a lot betterLight's guns are very strong, but the real anti light gun is the double barrel. Hell that gun is the anti-everything really. 1 shots lights with no headshot requirements and 2 shots everything elsebut the "Any light that uses dash is a noob needs a crutch for their poor mechanical aim, and not a seriously competitive player" is completly wrong, literally every comp light runs dash, just tune into twitch these days and look at the qualifier games and you'll notice almost every single light using it.
>>1917160if you're running tp, heal, glitch as your 3 gadgets you're playing light wrong. You need some sort of destruction
>>1917173Light doesn't need destruction gadgets and none of his destruction gadgets are good anyways. "Destruction" is the medium's job anyways and I say destruction with quotation marks because demat is and isn't at the same time.
I wish I could use anything other than ARs or SMGs in TDM... I can maintain a K/D of 2 with any weapon but my teammates still feed the enemy team faster than I can get kills.
>>1916971They fixed the misaligned sights a while ago, no? Anyways, if you like the sight on it just use it. Maybe I'm just superstitious about irons but I find I play better with them. I think the clearer picture from the rds makes me overconfident and I get in over my head quickly.>>1916986I agree but I try to keep the weapons separate from what I'm wearing in my head because matching everything is a losing battle, except the rank 7 skin. That ugly fuck clashes with everything. A nice QoL change would be to just standardize the irons among guns that have many to choose from. I don't get why the V9S in particular has like 4 sets of irons chosen so arbitrarily.
did they fucking remove the ability for defib to damage enemies?I'm new and played Mid for the first time ever yesterday and no matter what the defib did NOT work on anyone. Also they're janky in general and don't feel good in the sense of... tactile feedback... but that might just be my terrible performance.
Are these real players or bots? How are there so many of these extremely bad players? I've seen at least three today that I had to stop and just spectate for a while for. How do you play the game enough to get 800 kills but still struggle with basic controls, don't know how to sprint, shoot at walls, etc.It's like playing with dementia patients, same breed as the f2p you see in TF2.
>>1919412I first thought people with these names were bots but eventually came to the conclusion these two-word names were a privacy setting.
>>1919419The default name you get given is usually two words mashed together anyways
>>1919412Default name. Many people have one; even someone famous like Moist is "SkeletalSniper".
Ranked matchmaking with a mixed rank team is weirdI'm 34k and play with a 20k and 15kAlways counts the combined team mmr as anywhere from 80-100k when it should be much lower, my RS losses and gains are basically the same as my mates despite having double their rank score and playing in lobbies that feel no different from my soloq plat games.
Post some funny finals media and OC!
>>1919412Was playing powershift with my stack and we found this rando who was incredibly bad. He was playing from console and all he'd do was stare at us and maybe get a kill after 10 deaths. We kept him around and hyped him up but holy fuck how was he so bad.
is the ultimate version of skins the FOMO edition?like if I don't get the ultimate skin in this battle pass, even if I buy the legacy later, I can never get it again?I'm broke right now, and generally not willing to spend 30 dollars on this game, but if I ever WERE and I wanted the Ultimate Lux Terminata skin of this battle pass, it would have to be now?
>catgirl maid skinShit must be dire behind the scenes
>>1919744Why bother, they're literally recolours and (imo) the normal BP versions look better. There's no value in it whatsoever
>>1919744I think it is for this season only, yeah. After all, it is a cash offer; legacy passes only show up many months later for multibucks (with all multibucks inside stripped away). There already is BP FOMO in the shape of bonus pages being forever locked to the season. If it bothers you not knowing for sure, Embark is surprisingly really good about responding to support ticket messages on their website. So, give that a shot.
>>1919767>they're literally recolorsIn all fairness, which is little due for this ultimate pass bullshit, many of them do have modified meshes in order to be "deluxe" versions of the same idea. Just absolutely not $30 worth
It's surprising to me how everyone is suddenly open to giving nexon dozens of dollars for skins, fomo items and battlepasses. Both online and im my irl friend group that plays.
>>1920224Embark figured out that the people most willing to spend money are a bunch of nerds that hate sports and love gooning to anime, so fewer jerseys and more sex robots, cat maids, and anime girls (for players that missed S3) is paying dividends. Would be fine if it weren't for these same people also being the ones that hate numbers being on cosmetics. It's a game show people, come on; you're gonna have contestant numbers.
>>1920238I mean sure I get that, but not for this price. You can get a handful of decent games for the same amount of money.Don't get me wrong, I'm really hapy I can experience the game content at the same pace wether I pay or not, I'm really glad about nothing essetial to gameplay being locked behind a paywall.It's that despite this, people that I had to talk into getting a 5$ game to play with me in the past are spending 50$ on skins now
If WT/Ranked was locked behind the purchase of the BP, this game would be 10x better.It would also be a lot more dead but those are minor details
>>1920290>It's that despite this, people that I had to talk into getting a 5$ game to play with me in the past are spending 50$ on skins nowThat's just how it always goes. Getting people to try new things is always like herding cats, and the things they'll willingly go do instead is often enough to drive you mad
>>1920224Legitimately whats the problem with buying cosmetics? There are far worse things in games like weapons/armor that does more than its free counter part. I bought the battle pass exactly once and its paid for all future battle passes plus more on the side if I do decide to pick anything up. They have stuff for those who like tacticool, sports, and wacky le randum shit. Anime themed stuff isn't that weird of an addition all things considered. I'm incredibly picky about spending money on f2p games. But I feel like if you're getting a lot of time out of it and so long as it doesn't exceed the cost a regular game of equal value, its perfectly fine to buy things here and there. >>1920302Thats fucking retarded. I would drop this game immediately if modes or weapons were locked to pay only.
>>1920352The S3 BP was particularly jarring, glad nobody uses the ass ugly anime skin model.I don't like MTX simple as, especially when it's hella overpriced.
>>1920364Yeah I don't think there's been a battlepass where I've 100% onboard with cosmetics wise. It at least introduced the concept of team based emotes with the super sentai theme it had. But yeah the anime face looks absolutely cursed. Its crazy because they clearly have the ability to make cool shit, but lack any talent for making hair. 90% of the hair options look like dog ass.
My friend complained there isn't much finals content on the interwebz so I made this. What do you think?
>>1917160Everyone uses it because it's a crutch. The dash itself you can flick to it and most people use it as a panic move after they take damage making it really easy to land flicks.Grapple is much more versatile, but the skill gap is insane. Anyone can dash on day 1, but only truly skilled pilots can use grapple effectively.If two players are equal in aim, then grapple wins because you can grapple up and shoot making opponents 360 - 180 to track you which the dash cannot accomplish as fast.Grapple always remains in every game the highest skill mobility tool and if you have enough time you can:> swing shot around buildings entire buildings.> 360 wrap shot you can spin around them and maintain fire> Sky Shot where you are also escaping and still able to deal massive damage to engage if you hit it.Dash helps every player. Grapple only helps the good players
>>1917173Diamond Ranked Light here never have had an issue finding a barrel to drop a floor or enough to level what I needed. They are literally everywhere, and most teams will always be running demat as light is heal boy now
>>1920662You're used to playing against shit players. In no world does the grappling hook win if both players have the same aim.
>>1920658lol nice one anon
>>1920662None of this happens at ranks above gold my man. These are casual only problems.
>>1920781>>1920744seems his skill has upset players who aren't at his level
>>1920789Tune into any of the streamed scrims on twitch and tell me how many lights are running grapple vs how many are running dash.
They need to put defib into a specilization slot.Double the charges.Triple the cooldown.Quadruple the damage.
>>1920838couldn't agree more
>>1919749the nexon assigned slave driver has arrived
I can't play this game anymore. 60 fps is not acceptable to be playing this. It dips hard into the 50-40 too during fights.
>>1920238>so fewer jerseys and more sex robots, cat maids, and anime girlswhat the fuck were they thinking with the sportsball skins?to their credit though, the character models are very tameits not obnoxiously sexy like overwatch or rivals >>1921064my monitor is 60hzskill issue
>>1921403>what the fuck were they thinking with the sportsball skins?That it's a combination gameshow/sport and therefore sports skins are a decent fit. Honestly, they were right, they just fucked up with the football ones, and even those could be fixed with a better fabric and just not having each one feature the full padding underneath. All the other sports skins are fine, albeit maybe a bit underwhelming in regards to stuff like the baseball one being a S4 pass set.
sa1216 nerfed every single patch in every single season for a year straight and still lands in the meta
>>1921064A friend and myself had similiar issues recently.Rollback your drivers. Espcially if its Nvidia.For us it dipped below 20, from 120 and this fixed it.I don't think embark is updating the drivers on whatever they're developing the game on. It's why the beta worked great for everyone and every now and then people complain online that it runs like shit suddenly. most modern drivers are bloated shit too, but that's another issue
>>1921430Sell it to me. I still have a better time unloading the default mg in someone's face that any shotty. So maybe i don't use it right. Not that the ks23 makes any sense to me either.Nor any shotgun in the game now that I think about it. The lack of headshot damage makes the accuate ones pointless, and the lack of damage makes the gimmicky ones pointless. And if you wanna play something that's useless at range and you have to get in their face for it... melee exists
>>1921430Anything Heavy has is broken and meta because Heavy Players are broken. They broke the game and dominated lobbies with just a stick, giving them any kind of a gun is like giving cocaine to a velociraptor
>>1921430>>1921473It works really well if you have a team dedicated to supporting you. A medium to give pads on call and a light to heal. It has the highest theoretical damage out of all the heavy weapons. If you can perfect track someone, they will loose the fight 100% of the times. However that's not counting the infamous No-Reg instances when comboed with winch. I would use it more often, but the ShAK does roughly the same DPS and allows me to engage at beter ranges. I just find it to be a lot more comfortable, you really need high FPS and smooth tracking with the SA12.
>>1921504funny way to spell light
>>1921403and I have a 165hrz monitor with a 2070 and a Ryz 7 2700X. Beta and release all at high at native res ran at 120+ fps. >>1921465which driver versions should I be looking for? Anything from around release/beta times? August to september 2023?
>>1921583>Beta and releasethey added things to the gamemore things = less fps
>>1921586and, pray tell, why does a game like this run like such shit? All the new maps are designed with less clutter and interatibles than the previous/release ones. Surely it isn't because it's a bloated mess that they won't bother to fix, hm?
>>1921583I rolled back to 566.36 because the shitty nvidia app deletes previous drivers and I don't know what I had before.I'd reccomend a simple rollback to whatever you had before or 566.36 bc its very stable, but any driver from the beta days should work too. With Nvidia just avoid any driver versions that are less than a year old in general.
>>1921578>It works really well if you have a team dedicated to supporting youNigga the spear is good too if the whole team supports your fat ass.>It has the highest theoretical damage out of all the heavy weaponsUhh, my fellow contestant, the minigun. That's the only point of the minigun.>If you can perfect track someone, they will loose the fight 100% of the times.Applies to every weapon?>ShAK does roughly the same DPSNot only does it have a flat higher dps, it has a headshot multiplier on top of it
>>1921473even with it's gimmicky tube reload it just deletes 2/3rds of the classes before they can react if you can track which does take an austistic amount of practice given how jank the player camera POV is.
>>1921647>Nigga the spear is good too if the whole team supports your fat ass.Ignoring this point because it's retarded. >Uhh, my fellow contestant, the minigun. That's the only point of the minigun.Also ignoring this one, for the same reasons as above.>Applies to every weapon?What I meant is that it gives you next to no way to escape in that short ammount of time. >Not only does it have a flat higher dps, it has a headshot multiplier on top of itBut it also has the split bullet mechanic which means that at anything beyond 10 meters you will do half damage on top of the normal damage drop off distance. I personally prefer it because when I winch someone it gives me a margin of error but against a good SA12 user, I tend to loose those fights.as >>1921686the screenshake on the SA12 is almost comical, it's like there's an earthquake everytime I fire the damn thing. Used to use it a lot more when you could cycle cancel with winch/quickmelee but now I can't be bothered and just use the ShAK which gives me better results.
>>1921620Yeah I tried finding drivers dating before 2025 but couldn't find anything, I'll see if rolling back to 566.36 will help although I doubt it
>>1921726>>1921620nvm can't find anything further than 572.60 on their site
>>1921723Retard>>1921733>>1921726Retard I swear if your next compla8mt is that you can't install it because of the newer driver I will pin you down and choke you
melee will never be good no matter how much Embark buffs these pieces of shit. They're gadgets shoehorned into the weapon slot that will never be used because it's not a laserbeam that can kill in 2.25s ttk from the top of monaco cathedral.
>>1921793>*backstabs you*>*dash through + 180°backstabs +quick melees your heavy*>*dashes away*>*distant vanishing bomb sound*I agree they need a big buff.
>>1921787idk what to say man, this is what I find on the same website for my gpu
>>1921828Just google the driver serial number you want, you'll get the page with the official download guaranteed.Look up the driver number dates externally. Their site, app and recent drivers are all garbage.
>>1921862Well that's fuckin stupid, you used to be able to look up make n model of your gpu on their site and get all the drivers they've released since
>>1921873Like every industry with money in it, It's gone to shit unforunately. Talent is down, profits are up, there's less compentent workers and more incompetent managers.Welcome to late stage capitalism.Until america has another civil war it's gonna keep getting worse. The media keep them in check all to well for that to happen rn, but one slip up like pic related and flames will burst.
How do you counter a triple light thermal smoke squad?
whenever i go a gap without playing i almost get gaslit by all the people bitching about how light is an almost unassailable menace and then i play the game once and realize they're all the worst players on the planet
>>1927300Light is very attractive to newer players and those who play for fun with all the gadgets, general easy mobility and weapons that have high damage and low conditions.But if you come face to face with >>1926666 especially if they are organized, there's really is not much you can do.Unless you run light too.
>>1926666gas and sensors
>>1927389This.Unless they changed it, Gas becomes an utter nightmare in gas as Smoke cancels any flames that could ignite it.
>>1927948and it's difficult to notice when you're in thermal vision
>>1927300A bad light player is annoying but doablea really good light player will make you wanna tear your fucking hair off.
>>1928154a really good light player is just an obnoxious aim checka bad light player is basically free unless you're getting range checked using melee or something and ur team sucks
>>1928156"An obnoxious aim check" is selling it shortIf they're a really good Light, I expect them to hit their headshots and be good on their ambushes, which tightens up the TTK buffer immensely. Take the V9S vs Lewis for example. Shooting raw headshots, it's 0.83s vs 0.48s, giving you a 0.35s buffer to kill a Light. Problem is, when you add in ambushes, you add in human reaction time, which is usually 0.25s but can reach 0.15-0.18s if you're gaming every day. This means the real buffer is 0.10s-0.20s to turn around, spot them, aim at their head (and has to be their head), and hit every shot.For Medium, it's even worse. V9S vs AKM? That's 0.67s vs 0.40s, meaning a buffer of 0.27s. That means you have 0.02-0.12s to start taking your shots and hit every shot. Literally impossible to win for most players.And sure, similar TTK Buffers can be found for Heavy vs Medium, meaning ambushes are rewarded across the board (as they should), but with Light, it's still different because their TTK is low enough that even Gadgets get fucked. Just reacting to being shot and putting away your Lewis takes 0.40-0.50s. Not to mention whatever the built-in time it takes to equip and use whatever gadget you want. That's why Charge was such a popular "panic" option against Lights: it's near-instant use meant that it was basically one of the only options that could be used at all.Fighting a Light is far more about trying to limit their angles of attack and preventing any form of ambush, even moreso than the other two classes.
This game feels more like COD every fucking update man I hate it so much, demat was a mistake, winch was a mistake, and the glitch mine rework was a mistake. All the shit about heavy melee being broken started popping up when shit ass season 3 was in swing, we would genuinely have a more healthy game if they never added that shit. Demat just kills class identity, and makes roof top camping even easier with less teamwork involved. Why would you need an escape plan if looking down and pressing q works? Finally the fucking glitch mine just makes every cashout fight meaningless. There is no point in being on the cashout until you know the team is dead because they can demat the whole thing onto a floor full of glitch mines.It could definitely be that the game is just older now, so the meta is known which leads to less exciting matches. The most important thing is missing now though, fighting over the cashout isn't chaotic anymore, and I never find matches where last minute steals happen. This was basically the entire dynamic that made this game exciting to play! I really want them to stop focusing so much on getting the shooter part perfectly balanced, they've been trying for like a year at least obviously this shit will never work and doesn't bring in players. Just focus on making steals exciting which I feel like has been the biggest casualty in this weird e-sports boner they have for the game.
>>1928704>demat was a mistaketrue>winch was a mistakenah. Heavy gets the shaft all the time, especially when it comes to specs. Winch is unironically the only somewhat decent choice now (somehow, the other candidate is the fuckin goo gun, that's how dire things are)>glitch mine rework was a mistakeIt was literally useless before the rework.>All the shit about heavy melee being broken started popping up when shit ass season 3 was in swing, we would genuinely have a more healthy game if they never added that shitGranted though, you see when you instakill a light it's considered "bad and op" but when light instakills you it's "fair and balanced and actually light only has 150 hp so therefore, it should do even more damage". Melee was a bit overtuned. Riot is ridiculous now but that's because the hitboxes are still total ass.>Finally the fucking glitch mine just makes every cashout fight meaninglessI haven't seen a glitch mine on the cashbox in ages>I really want them to stop focusing so much on getting the shooter part perfectly balancedUh, it's a shooter. If the shooting part isn't balanced, the game doesn't feel fun. And right now, kinda doesn't feel fun.last minute steals feel cool when you do them, but are utterly devastating when you're the team that worked it's ass off to get to second place, only for the leading team to focus YOU and your team, because why have a fair fight if you can just let the shitters pass on through. And don't say it doesn't happen, because it happens as long as you're above silver, even in WT.
>>1928227>the flanker jumping you and landing all of their headshots is basically impossible to win for most playersthis doesn't sound like a problem this sounds like the literal win condition for a class that generally doesn't win otherwise
>>1928851>Uh, it's a shooter. If the shooting part isn't balanced, the game doesn't feel fun. And right now, kinda doesn't feel fun.I think they're TOO focused on getting it perfectly balanced, rather than making sure every tool can do it's job. Like they keep fucking with getting the m60 and the lewis gun on the same level, but genuinely it really doesn't matter which one is better if the game feels right, which it doesn't, and it keeps getting worse with all these micro changes that powercreeps the guns with every other patch. >last minute steals feel cool when you do them, but are utterly devastating when you're the team that worked it's ass off to get to second place, only for the leading team to focus YOU and your team, because why have a fair fight if you can just let the shitters pass on through. And don't say it doesn't happen, because it happens as long as you're above silver, even in WT.All I know is logged into quick cash today to get a feel for the game again, and I saw everybody just shoot each other until they were the last team standing, when this wasn't true in 2024.
>>1928873>this doesn't sound like a problemIt wasn't stated to be a problem in that post. Don't be so defensive. If there was a problem, it's just how the ecosystem around it has changed.
>>1928851>somehow, the other candidate is the fuckin goo gun, that's how dire things aregenuinely how is that a "somehow"
>>1929031>Meshgutted to hell. You loose HP on deply and winch counters it almost completly>chargeon top of doing low damage now, it's cancelled with no CD refund if you get winched mid chargeAs much as people wanna play the "goo gun stronk meme" I will concede that it is good in SPECIFIC situations, trumping other specs. But other than that, it's too situational and winch should be rought always even to just reposition the cashout, it's almost a necessity at this point.
>>1928908> I saw everybody just shoot each other until they were the last team standing, when this wasn't true in 2024.sorry but you were playing a different game, Quick Trash has always been about the constant 3rd partying, it's not even that they chase kills, the gamemode pretty much requires you to always be the last team standing at any given moment if you wanna have a chance to win.
>>1929054Sorry, I should have worded that clearer, I meant that in defense of goo gun. I found it very useful in a variety of situations and it by far has provided me with the best sense of flexibility on Heavy. That said I also barely use winch so maybe I'll have to give it a go.
What possesses the minds of light players to jump in front of and try to dps duel revved up, or even already firing miniguns?I mean, it's free kills for me, which is nice and all, but it just confuses the fuck out of me every time.
>>1929496Never mind.I figured it out.picrel
>wooden arrow to the thigh does 124 damage>metal slug to the head does 100 damageCan some s1 anon infopill me why ks-23 is the only single projectile gun that doesn't have a headshot modifier? Even the minnigun has one, what's with the hateboner for this thing?
>>1929676The game just can't have a quick combo way to delete lights. It's why it was initially dropped from 120 to 100, similar to the Sledgehammer. Even requiring headshots is verboten, because something something "Winch would make that too easy!"
>>1929390I understood that, I feel like the only thing the goo gun has going on is goo locking if you're playing melee. And maybe doing some dumb strat but other than that, winch's utility and the fact it's essentially required if you wanna play SA12 or Shak, can't be overlooked
>>1929676Because only light can have instakill weapons with infinite ammo. Give me one good reason as to why throwing knives should do so much HS damage and be infinetly spammable.
>>1929974It's nutty how throwing knives have>infinite ammo>one of Light's better headshot TTKs vs Heavy>a standard Medium headshot TTK vs Medium>no damage falloff, only projectile falloff>no accuracy penalty, only mild projectile dispersion under some circumstancesand yet people get mad when you say "hey, maybe this could stand to be adjusted." Hell, I swear people used to be in agreement that the weapon was cancer back in S1, but it's basically only ever been buffed for some god forsaken reason. Only nerf it's gotten was a very mild change to its fire rate, and it's been untouched for 3 seasons, but somehow it's fine to throttle and mess with everything else every other patch.
How is the dematerializer even allowed to exist in this state for as long as it has? The medium playstyle is absolutely hot garbage. How is it that the game is more boring to play a year later than more interesting, the answer is medium shitting all over map balance and class balance by stepping out of it's support roll to be a fat light.
>>1930482Because the demat is still weaker than actual destruction>oh no they opened a wall!was gonna blow it up anyways, l-maothanks loser
>>1930524you don't play the game if you think permanent destruction is better than demat
>>1930576Nah, you've got it the wrong way around>actually play the gameYou think permanent destruction is better than demat>if you watch streamers and "pros," who will say shit just to drive engagement, pander to an audience, or hold up a stale but "reliable" metaYou think demat is better than permanent destruction
>>1930614your stupidity will never not be funny
>play duoqueue ranked>without fail the 3rd is a smooth brained idiotKill me, please, I cannot take this shit anymore
I'm a complete new player, I understand ultimately the answer is to get better, but I'm confused about something.Enemy player completely dominates me in a tdm using hook shot + shotgun, I feel like every time I'm within 25 meters of him he's getting a free kill on me, I try the exact same thing, I hook a medium, wait until they are about halfway to me, put two dead center of mass shells into them, they escape and are still alive after.What is the difference here? Am I missing some tech? was something happening that I was not aware of?
>>1930967SA12 feels like shit and awkward to use until you get used to it, then it becomes one of Heavy's strongest weapons. You've got to change your play style from what you'd do with the LMGs/Shak/Akimbos. Treat it more like a melee weapon, chuck your dome to close distance, save your RPG to finish players that escape your range not as an opener, etc.
Had to compress the shit out of this, but it should still be legible enough, hopefully.
>>1930984Also made this, inspired by recent success with frags.
>>1930984>>1930989nice stuff anon
>>1930967For starters, the winch + SA12 combo has an infamous bugWinch range is roughly 12 meters (15 if you do the runup strat) but if you were to winch someone between 10 and 12 meters, your first shot WILL no-reg. This doesn't happen below 10 meters-ish but it's inconsistent overall. As the other anon said, you will require a different playstyle and also the aid of a medium to close the distance. Having the right pads at the right time is mandatory to do well here.
No one here got the maid outfit huh
>>1931212Only interaction I've had with it so far is making this image.
Releasing the shark costume and the maid outfit back-to-back is definitely a test to see whether they should double down on wacky or horny cosmetics And I can say I've seen a lot more maids than sharks
>>1931367The shark outfit legit gives you massive disadvantage. It has little lightning bolts that can be seen by everyone so it gives away your position so muchit also looks ass ugly and it's an overpriced skin but that's another issue
the legacy battlepass grind kind of sucks
>>1931673>he didn't boughted them when they came out not a real fan sorry
>>1931212>>1931214I feel like these skins would sell more if the females in this game didnt look so bad. Whenever nexon orders them to make plastic surgery Asian babes then you know things are dire
>>1931734>>1931734>>1931734New Bread
