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Oracle the Pug Edition.

Season 10 Info: https://news.blizzard.com/en-gb/article/24226702/rally-against-hell-in-season-of-infernal-chaos

Patch Notes: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24222917/diablo-iv-patch-notes

Roadmap: https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24189529/the-age-of-hatred-persists-diablo-iv-2025-roadmap

I hate this community fuck y'all make the threads already.

Previous: >>1965248
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What happened with /d4g/ getting moved to /vm/ from /vg/? I haven't been to the threads for quite a while.
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>>2016068
Even regulars have gotten to the point they will play the season for a week and not bother to visit 4chan to blog about the season. Dadcore gaming has reached its limit on 4chan. So here we are, on /vm/, shitposting away with a community of sub-20 players bound to this bulletin board system we call home.
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>>2016071
Man, I suspected things were pretty rough, but I didn't realize they were so dire. It's a shame but I guess it reflects the state D4 has been for a long time. I mean I've been playing it pretty consistently myself (for a week or two like you said) and only really got back into the game this season, which I gotta say is pretty enjoyable even if there's still little to nothing endgame-wise. Chaos rifts are a nice addition to the game and the way they handled hordes is neat (though spires should be thrown out the window imo). And the chaos armor was an interesting spin on itemization.
A good 6/10 content.

Honestly I hope this game will pick itself back up sooner rather than later. From what I read they got Yang (responsible for major changes in D3, particularly in itemization) on board, so if that's any indicator, things might be going in a better direction.

By the way have there been any leaks around here about the expansion?
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The PTR blog post - for posterity:

https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/article/24242857/the-2-5-0-ptr-what-you-need-to-know
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>>2016127
Can't wait for Azmodan's shit talking kek
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Season 11 doesn't have seasonal powers, you guys!! It has seasonal GIFTS
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>>2016356
Tyrone is giving us dank gear
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Tyrone is reserved for Tyrael oomfie, it's Hadriel.
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>>2016068
/vg/ moves too fast for diablo 4 unless the thread is bumped every minute it gets pushed off and 404
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>>2016356
I was cracking up at that systems guy trying to justify why he switched defensive stats around. Removed armor, added toughness then added armor back and gave it diminishing returns. Didn't sound like he knew why himself.
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>>2016358
All these niggas crushing the Tyrone's into sparks this season gonna be wishing for them next season. The devs were like "oh you plebbitors say D4 is too easy and you never die?", they trying to kill you next season.
>sip your one of four potions
>no more multiple damage reduction from X any more (more effective than stacking flat damage reduction with diminishing returns)
>go get ass blasted by evil AI monsters that will wrap you in fire chains and crowd you so you can't move
Casuals will be crying, mark my words. Or we'll see what they do after PTR anyway. Anybody going to play it?
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I'm not a pig so no.
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Paragon 294 in HC tonight, bros...
I live my life in sanctuary one paragon level at a time... in 45 second increments of pit, plus 18 cumulative seconds of loading screen in between... the Drowned Sea Hag is my ultimate nemesis due to her slow loading-in time/animation...
I grow weary... will I have the strength to continue the fight on the morrow...
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Listen to me rant. Here, and the Destiny 2 general, are no joke the last places to actually talk about video games on the site, probably because both threads are filled with dad gamers and oldfags.

You can’t discuss anything on /v/ anymore, it’s filled with degenerates who ritual post and share it on their Discords.
/vg/ is now flooded with SEAnons from /vt/ and gacha games who are legitimately sub 85 IQ.

I’m not even huge fans of Destiny 2 or Diablo IV, I just noticed them the most after going through so many generals and threads. Maybe /vrpg/ and /vr/ also for this bill.

I guess it makes sense though, >>2016071 this post highlights it.
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>>2016378
I'll see if I have time. If I do then I'll check the PTR out and have a go at the changes. I'm very curious how they will play out.
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Is it just me or did they make rogue extra sweaty?
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(i posted this on /vm and thread died) /vg? are we back diabros? new dungeon with leaderboards sounds pretty endgamey but I didn't understand the tempering stuff, everything else seems goodish, or at least it moves the things enough to feel different i hope it takes a good direction. Are they changing the difficulty tiers or did I read that wrong? fuck reddit tho i hate that they take the pole in leading game changes. I will just see it live I guess, when this drops like in November? Also, lore implications on Azmo? Meph is free all evils are free?
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>>2016880
Lesser evils are free but Baal and Diablo are in recharge mode like Mephisto was.
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>>2016610
Yeah... I've been debating playing the PTR or not, but it was helpful to do it when they made the tempering/MW changes in the first place, just to get a peek at fundamental changes. So I'll probably test it this time too, even if that means deleting a ton of stuff to make room for this massive PTR install, just to play it for 1 day to see all the things and go "oh ok", and then delete it again. Ughhhhh Or maybe I'll get two days' worth so I can lvl a character and see how slow that's gonna be going forward. This game is kind of like a snake eating its tail at this point.
Anyway. On to paragon 296 today I guess...
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>>2016912
You can do it anon!
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how does execute work? is it worth having it via runeword?
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>>2016880
They are at least starting to touch on systems that have been problematic i.e. tempering/masterworking, though it remains to be seen how this'll affect the game longterm. Leaderboards are needed for that compettive aspect that some people are chasing. I like they're bringing back capstones because that was a nice little obstacle to go through before progressing to the next difficulty. Oh, and yeah, Azzy is back so it's a matter of time before Prime Evils will start to pop back up, hopefully. I think the best explanation is what Anon >>2016884 said.

I also wish they added seasonal rebirth and QoL such as profile summaries where we can see our stats (and look up others' profiles too) a'la Diablo 3. I still don't know why these things were missing from the base game in the first place. Even community features in D3 are more fleshed out. What gives?
>>2016912
Still fingers crossed Anon! Keep it up.
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>>2016912
Dunno how you do it, fren. Just getting my glyphs to 100 is more than enough pit for me.
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Does varshan always have a shield like that or is my damage just shit?
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>>2017182
Varshan always has something buggy going on with his barrier. A couple of seasons ago he was unkillable for a while until they fixed it. At least you killed him!
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>>2017130
Yeah I hope they didn’t forgot about the one eyed owl and the wingless bat
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AAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>grinding with a fren and talked up ravens druid
>i said that german beavis has the best lazy 2 button build
>we still grinding and a half hour passes
>"anon, how exactly do you spell 'german beavis'? i'm trying to find his build guide right now. typed it in three different spellings and can't find it anywhere"
kekekek
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>>2017708
https://d4builds.gg/builds/e6ca4b40-b46b-47c9-9592-62e5eff707c8/?var=0
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>>2017182
He gets super shield when his minions spawn, kill them and it goes away.
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>>2017708
KEK
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>>2017182
Another bug that Blizzard hasn't bothered to fix yet.
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Evadeborn lags the shit out of me, is this normal? Rubberbanding left and right
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>>2017130
>I also wish they added seasonal rebirth and QoL such as profile summaries where we can see our stats (and look up others' profiles too) a'la Diablo 3. I still don't know why these things were missing from the base game in the first place. Even community features in D3 are more fleshed out. What gives?
So much this. I can't wrap my head around the idea to not include such basic features that their previous game already had. It's like they were thinking it would be revolutionary to release D4 with LESS functionalities than Diablo 3. This is very malicious and the game really suffers from it.
When I have the time I'll see if there were any threads up on blizz forums about it.
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Where's the next expansion going to take us bros?
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>mid 2026 for next Diablo 4 expansion
:(
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>>2018303
Xiansai
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>>2018346
gweilos btfo
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>>2018303
My guess is Dreadlands but it's only because we haven't been there so far (I think). But I'd like to see Skovos, personally.
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>>2018348
Cute femwizards everywhere
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>>2018343
It's a shame, true. Honestly, I'd rather have them release it mid next year and see a finished content than wait another 4 seasons for fixes because they were rushing it. Still, the latter is very much a possibility but at least later date guarantees higher quality.
>>2016122
>By the way have there been any leaks around here about the expansion?
The only thing that we know is that a new class will be a 'wanderer' *tee hee*. I think there's a good chance it will be a crusader/paladin or something like pic related. If they don't bring that class there will be riots.
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>>2018385
Add the spinning hammer skill from chaos powers to this
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>>2018303
I'd really like to revisit Westmarch but thats just me. As diablo books reader I'm mad they to this day they haven't done anything with Ureh. That was even teased for d3 for crying out loud.
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>>2018211
Yeah that happens. It's too annoying for me to play further this season.
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>>2018385
It's going to be a paladin but a different "exotic" name, and it will probably share some crossover non-paladin things to make it "original and exciting and totally all brand-new look how innovative we are". But whatever it is, it will be OP at the launch of it and 100% everyone is going to play it for at least that season.
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>>2018392
Couldn't find the right image anywhere. If you've got any you can post it here and I'll add it and make a new version.
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>>2017361
what will you do once you hit 300?
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>>2018598
First, I will flex my 100%/100% achievement list.
Second, I will touch that mythical object called grass that I keep hearing about.
Then I will install the PTR and test that mess out on Tuesday.
Then after a couple of days of that, I will create the thorniest thorns barb and sit in the pvp zone to wreck these PKers in HC that have been ganking the mentally-disabled all season, for the lulz.
I just hit paragon298 today, so only 2 paragon bars of blue to fill up from here on out let's gooooooo
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>>2018496
It'll have to be paladin-like, of course. And they need to do both genders so it'll be a crusader with paladin skill set perhaps? I don't think paladins had women in their ranks so unless they plan to retcon that than it's crus or something like >>2018385 . But I'm also a bit afraid of their "take" on the class and how "original" they're gonna make it. We need something classic. I really wouldn't made a mix of crusader's and paladin's skills, just brought to modern engine. And yeah, he's going to be OP, but at least there will be some competition for spiritborn.
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>>2018609
>Then after a couple of days of that, I will create the thorniest thorns barb and sit in the pvp zone to wreck these PKers in HC that have been ganking the mentally-disabled all season, for the lulz.
based
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>>2018303
This >>2018346 or Skovos for some prime Amazons. I know nu-blizz doesn't roll like that anymore but a man can dream. Better question is, if they're brave enough to revisit locations from previous games? Other than Caldeum I mean.
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>>2016127
How much are these changes going to stall the progression next season? Seems like they want to slow things down. Again...
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>>2018667
slutsader/slutadin FTW
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YES. It is DONE! 100% every single achievement complete now.
A day ahead of my self-imposed schedule too.
And no, once the paragon 300 came up on my screen, I did not finish out the rest of the pit, eff that.
Only lost 2 characters, both necros, in this psycho endeavor. Not too bad for the road to HC 300.
10/10 recommend if anyone wants a challenge
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>>2019257
absolute madwoman. congrats fren
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>>2019257
>fearless bacon
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>>2019257
Congrats my (wo)man!
How long in total did it take you to reach it?
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dad fell again lads :(
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They should introduce portrait frames and give them out as rewards for achievements and activities. It's the little things.
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>>2019257
Do you think druid a better/tankier option for HC than Slutborn? I'm considering HC right now since I've done everything in SC, except 300 maybe.
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>>2018303
>Where's the next expansion going to take us bros?
Somewhere exotic I hope. Also, why are they leaving so many hidden and inaccessible areas? Like this one in Nahantu. It'd be cool if they did some crazy pirates vs. sea monsters/demons season and maybe place it there.
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>>2019463
>pirates vs. sea monsters/demons
How would you like to work for Blizz? Seriously, it's so ridiculous I love the idea. We even have pirate themed cosmetics from previous seasons to use as baseline for new ones.
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Are (you) religious /dg/?
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Picked up D2 a few days ago, having a blast.
Then I sold my druid charm by accident, now I want to die.
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>>2019535
I believe in our lord and savior, Tyrone.
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>>2016127
>Defense Overhaul: Introducing Toughness
Who asked for this? Devs really need to stop trying to reinvent the wheel with resistances and armor. It was already easy and simple to figure out, now they are going to dumb it down to one stat, just like in d3. It's like dealing with UI designers who need to fuck something up occasionally to later fix and revert that, only to justify their existence.
>Introducing Season Rank
>Renown is changing in a big way on the Seasonal Realm as it’s being removed in exchange for the Season Rank system, completing optional objectives with the Season Rank to earn Skill Points, Smoldering Ashes, and Cosmetics.
This on the other hand looks like a typical "we need to take an existing system and make it more tedious and arduous". Not that renown was anything rewarding in the first place but prevailing bonuses were nice and felt like your prior effort rewarded you with some benefits.
>Capstone Dungeons Return
Fine I guess.

All in all I have high hopes majority of streamers and people on forums will flame them for these changes after PTR. Season 10 is good and if they pull through with those patch notes next one will be boring by comparison. Ain't gonna be good for those metrics.
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>>2019269
Thanks fren!
>>2019289
Heck yea druid is a fatass! But at least it's a lazy comfy fatass walk to 300!
>>2019321
Ok so I just logged in to gather the numbers. My HC chars this season in order of making them:
SB 61 hrs
Barb 31 hrs
Necro 1 RIP 11 hrs
Necro 2 RIP 17 hrs
Cata Druid 109 hrs <- the one that did all the pits
Raven Druid 10 hr
Rogue 13 hr
= 252 total hours for me to get to 300
I knew that I wanted to reach max paragon, but I wasn't playing like a streamer "only efficient things ever", like I had a good time and did this and that for the most part, until I hit about hmm 260ish I guess. I started keeping track of paragon at 272, but even then, I would hit 2 levels/day in pits and then go do something fun with the barb or whatever for the day. Around 280 all I did was pits as fast as I could haul my lil bear backside.
>>2019333
I started HC season with evade slutborn for the speedfarming aspect. When the lag spikes hit, it got real visually annoying, so that's when I started making alts. I did spec the rake evade into the slutborn, but that felt dicey. At least with the straight evade (again, you have to make all kinds of adjustments for HC for survivability) you had the armored hide up 100% ezpz without fail with eagle ult always resetting it. Went half-life with the evade sb and never took health damage once (avoid obvious ground effects tho).
Druid needs a lot of particulars to get up and running, or maybe it's just the builds that I wanted to do that needed specific things. I farmed whisper caches with SB and fed to the druid to get lvl 60. I fed the SB bulletin board caches to the druid too for the uniques. Anyway, hope you enjoy HC realm!
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Machinegun rogue is surprisingly fun
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>>2019757
That's a lot of dedication there Anon. Getting all these achievements must've taken a lot of time. Your HC numbers don't seem so daunting, honestly. But don't get me wrong, that's still impressive you managed to do it under 300 hrs and playing it for fun at that. Plus it's not like all your chars got away scott free.
I can appreciate setting your goals and actually reaching them. Kudos.

I just made my first HC SB character. We'll see how that will go. I'm sure I'll need to develop a self-preservation attitude instead of jumping in guns blazing. Thanks for the valuable info on both classes though, I'll try to put it to good use.

Btw, I don't know if it would fix those lag spikes, but crossplay was usually the main culprit for me and when it's disabled I have much smoother experience.
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>>2020337
Sorc with Mana shield, you have to try really hard to get killed
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>>2020337
I did all the things to try to get away from the lag spikes. The final thing that worked: resetting my router. It was instant no more lag spikes after that, except for one time when I was in a horde by myself and had lag, and apparently everyone else was also having lag and RIPing to world boss at the same time, so that's on blizz servers I think.
Take it slooooow on HC. I didn't even switch from normal difficulty until I hit lvl 60, but you do you. Also my advice is to tweak any build guide to give yourself extra defensive things in the skill tree and also on the paragon board, even if that means losing out on a couple damage points here or there. You can't do any damage if you're dead!
>>2020368
Yeah I made a sorc and then immediately deleted it, cause I didn't feel like doing the usual spam-all-the-keys sorc thing, and I also didn't want to mentally move from watching my health orb to watching the mana orb. But I did get a fren to use his sorc to kill bosses for me so I could get some starting unique gear kek
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i really wish they'd stop putting 1x "woman" into these patch campfires/news things, especially the broad shouldered wide beast they put next to 3 smaller men.
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>>2020368
Yeah, mana shield is great, I've already played my sorc on that build. However, if you want to amp up the adrenaline it's very easy to deplete your entire mana shield with Serpentine aspect. High pulse guaranteed, even more so on HC I'd imagine.
>>2020517
>Take it slooooow on HC. I didn't even switch from normal difficulty until I hit lvl 60, but you do you.
I will, even though it might go against my natural impulses in SC aRPG game.
>You can't do any damage if you're dead!
Hear hear. I absolutely agree with that line of thought. I'm already doing my own theory crafting when it comes to modifying aggro builds into sustained defense and survivability. Fun stuff to be honest, definitely a nice change of pace from regular softcore experience.
>>2020882
Diversity quota, what can you do... I mean people could just stop watching these campfires live and maybe that'd give blizz some food for though. God, I hate DEI. I truly hope the pendulum is already swinging the other way and there's gonna be less and less of these people. Merit before ideology.
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> kill andy 1000 times
> no loots yet
> sorry kid
> begins to kill her 1000 more times...
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>>2021350
>coward out of boss fights cause of HC
>share mats with a sorc to kill boss for me while I wait outside the boss room until it's dead and i can safely open chest, nothing really good tho
>sell all boss mats for dosh, cause i'm a coward
>get 4 mythics from pit runs and 3 mythics from gambling obols and a very random mythic from a yellow seasonal board cache
idk senpai, just run alts through the seasonal board and get sparks that way
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>>2021359
I am play d2r. There is no pit like d4 :(.
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>>2021362
i don't get it.. like i grew up playing d2, and it was very cool back then, but i don't have any inclination to go back...
is the fascination with d2r a zoomer-playing-emulators type of thing?
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>>2021365
I am 5000 year old woman trapped in a little loli body. My tiny hands can only play this game, like before I got trapped by the Prime Evil fel council in this demon body.
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>ophidian iris pants finally
>no primordial binding GA
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>2021366
huh. so basically the reason is: autism
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>>2021370
I hadn't played it, and picked it up for season 12. I jest about my little sisters lolicon fetish -- she has asperger syndrome and cannot stop talking what a sex offender she wants to be, except she has crippling anxiety and cannot go outside.

I was playing season 11 of d4. But, my spirit born and druid, or what ever I made, are kind of hard stuck in torment 3. Albeit, I got boosted to torment 4. But killing t4 just feels like a glass cannon and I cannot helltide or infernal key properly.
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>tfw too lazy to pick up non-ga loot
Is it over?
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>>2021485
that is how things would work with a filter, but this game also doesn't provide enough sustainable materials to enchant/MW/alchemy without salvaging constantly and farming legions.
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>Veil Crystals, never heard of it.
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>>2020882
People quickly catch on to their bullshit. That's probably one of the reasons they went with a new 'streamer'/podcast format like the interview Rhykker was recently doing.
>>2021545
Didn't they already go on record about introducing loot filters btw?
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/v/ gimme some Diablo YouTube to watch. I need some channel fr a new player.
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>>2021965
hate to say it but probably raxx is the best and most helpful even though he doesn't play anymore. rhykker is a good guy but a bootlicker.
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>>2021991
>rhykker is a good guy but a bootlicker
this lol

>>2021965
https://www.youtube.com/@Rob2628/
https://www.youtube.com/@Slaydra/
https://www.youtube.com/@MacroBioBoi
https://www.youtube.com/@Coooley
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I refuse to watch spastic rhykker and his fake deep voice. Never liked him.
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>>2022061
Beavis is based and autistic
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I just jumped in this. Necro is fun. Do people actually team up or are we all just soloing with a chatroom?
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>Gimping grizzly rage again
Why do they keep doing this
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>>2022283
Ehh they do things like this then un-do it in a couple of seasons. Anyway there was talk of them completely re-doing the skill tree at some point, so everything will change yet again with that.
Gonna play the ptr soon......
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>>2022258
There's a group finder for all sorts of content
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Oh wow they actually fixed the barb helmet
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>>2022361
Haven't played barb in a while, what was wrong with the helmet and which one?
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The new sanctification mechanic would be fun if it hadn't been RNG dialed up to 11. They need to tune it, ASAP.
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>>2022445
>Fixed an issue where Tuskhelm of Joritz the Mighty's Unique Power would last an insufficient duration while gaining Berserking.
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>>2022445
Soooo many barb chaos uniques weren't functional at season launch. Yeah they eventually fixed it...
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>beast in the ice just dropped me a shroud
based
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Doing the PTR and leveling up a barb without boosts.
Kinda kek that you start out with 0 skills and just punching monsters until you get 1 basic skill point at level 2.
Tried to do a stronghold at lvl 3 and died..???
Did a WB and got 15 skill points from that.
Variety of monsters in helltide is kind of fun tho.
Leveling feels very different, idk.
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>>2022258
Did you join our Clan? It's called <FREN>
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i wish i could opt to end horde runs when i get to 666 aether
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PTR capstones are fun, but I'm thinking if they plan to leave those in for multiple seasons, they will get stale and the complaining will inevitably happen.
Doesn't really feel like there is any lore behind doing these capstones, just an arbitrary "go and do this now" kind of thing. But since it's different (now), it's fun (now).
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>>2022498
>>2022537
Gotcha. Thanks. Good to know they cared enough to fix those issues.
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does project d2 actually ban you for using cracked serial codes?
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>>2022061
nta but you got any youtubers who specialize in barbs?
>>2022919
Only one way to find out desu.
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>>2022922
rob
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I forgot d2 has a sprint button. Do I really have to manually swap skills all the time or are most builds just 1 skill spam?
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>>2023109
lol you will need to swap skills
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>>2023131
ugh
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d2 skill switching is much better than the cooldown faggotry we have to deal with now
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>>2023280
My complaint with D4 skills is that I can't for some reason hit all the skills at the same time. It's like they have to be activated in a sequence, doesn't matter which, but it can't be 'all at the same time'.
In d3 for example I could press all my skills keys and they would go off. Maybe a minor nitpick, but it's annoying.
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>>2022061
Thanks boys (and girls). With this, I know we can finally raise our community numbers and beat Genshin Impact in reply count!
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>>2023322
That’s retarded bro. Have you ever tried jumping with a knife and throwing it while shooting a bow at the same time
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Someone ring the devs up and tell them that cooldown UI needs to be ON the character with you input a skill and there’s cooldown time remaining.

V Rising does this where if you press a skill and there’s 4s left on CD, it counts down on the player’s body for half a second letting you know.

I’m serious, ring up the devs and tell them to put that in.
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>>2023339
>Have you ever tried jumping with a knife and throwing it while shooting a bow at the same time.
Can't say that I did, but jumping into a fight while shouting your battle cry and taking a knife out of holster all the while throwing a knife in your other hand doesn't seem so impossible. Still, I just wish the game would register at least 2 simultaneous button pushes.
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>>2023344
Nah it’s not good man. You need rotational skillset otherwise the combat just turns to mush and players start expecting dumb combinations of buttons in runs.
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>>2023322
funny you should mention d3. I was playing it the other night and the input there is very smooth, by comparison d4 does feel janky and even laggy.
>>2023348
hard disagree. Besides, what you're suggesting is limiting how players wantto play. Not only that but multiple inputs at the same time do not force you to "mush dumb combinations of buttons". You can click your skills with delays, you do you, but dictating a playstyle in an aRPG is very malicious. Stop it my man.
and fun fact the inputs are messed up either way, if you tried to play whirlwind barb on a controller vs mk/b you'd know d4 would register whirlwind hits with a joystick button firmly held all the time when on a mouse you had to do 'dumb' clicking because holding the attack didn't yield the same effect.
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>>2023353
IM NOT CLICKING ALL THE TRAP BUTTONS AT THE SAME TIME TO MAKE TRAP SOUP ON ROGUE

MOOOOOODS
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Went back and played PoE2 for a bit after a few weeks of D4, and man, I know there’s obviously a bias here but holy shit is the basic combat bad in poe2.

It translates really well to the boss fights, where D4’s bosses feel like bullet hell ones, but the mobs feel terrible.
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>>2022492
It's a seasonal mechanic so they'll leave it as is
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>>2023341
This doesn't belong in D4.
Sick of people trying to turn D4 into all the other games. Like I know there is plenty of room for improvement in D4, but just let it be its own thing or even D3.5 idc
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>>2023433
Basic combat? What build did you play? How far did you get? Poe2 combat is better than Diablo 4 could ever hope to be.
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>>2023659
this is what we in the business call "cope"
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Poo2 players cope so hard it's insane. Keep it in your own threads thanks.
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PoE is better than PoE 2 lol
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>D4 adds PoE Vaal Orbs
>everyone on test is REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEING because they feel as they get them they HAVE TO USE THEM NOW instead of saving them
>this is going to most likely get them removed
I fucking hate sheep faggot niggers
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>>2023856
Idky people are bitching about a seasonal Mechanic. Once s11 ends its gone
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>>2023856
Same. It's entirely optional and it's not like anyone's forcing people to sanctify their items. Once you get a double of the same piece of gear you could do it, sure. Same as vaal'ing an item in poe.
>>2023898
Personally, I hope this will stay in some form.
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>>2023851
objectively you are correct but after playing it for 13 years I dont care anymore. I rather play the inferior product.
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>>2023659
Playing the crossbow class into act 3. All I’m doing is kiting enemies around and occasionally dodge rolling to keep distance. The 8 skills I have at this point are all attack skills, so positioning doesn’t matter too much.

I’m new to D4 as well, but the combat there feels like a constant push to not get surrounded. There’s this spacing game where you move in and then out. There’s skills at this point are way more varied too.
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>>2024046
The bosses however are on another level in poe2. That count boss is good enough to be in Bloodborne 2.

With Poe2, you can embrace the Dark Souls boss aspect due to the slower pace and build a central gimmick around the boss fight.
With D4, the combat is so fast that you can’t really do that, so bosses become about quick AoE and projectile dodging.

It’ll be interesting to see what V does in this area.
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finally got a usable chest piece i could fucking cry bros
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>>2024188
Congrats bro, good hunting!
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>>2024189
not the right ga but the build is so strong, it'll be fine for now :)
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Let me get this straight, I have to Helltide forever and pray the chaotic armor I want drops? I been at it for 20+ hours and still have yet to see a chaotic armor that amplifies my build.
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I'm retarded, I meant Infernal Horde and obviously not Helltide.
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>>2024223
Pretty much. If your build is decent enough you can do lower wave hordes as long as you still hit the 666 aether.
Either that or farm nightmare dungeons with the chaos rift affix. You can get a lot of rep and warp from those, buy the scrolls from the season bitch and you get lots of infernal caches.
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>>2024451
>buy the scrolls from the season bitch
what scrolls?
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>>2024458
When you finish the story she sells scrolls for 250 warp each.
Gives 6000 rep with maxed reputation season blessing.
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>>2024461
Ohhhh. Thx
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>>2024222
to farm those (and i've spent two or three weeks trying to find the last piece i need), you run hordes and make sure you have 666 aether to farm bartuk.

other ways are to open seasonal caches, use an alt to max rep board with scrolls and open on your main (guaranteed 4 chaos uniques), and the worst is gambling obols.
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>>2024461
yeah honestly this is the way to go. hordes are boring, but doing other stuff and turning in caches is ezpz



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