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Accurate OP edition.

For discussions related to FFXI. Do not post about private server drama because no one cares. Also, no one cares about private server vs. retail - play what you like. Keep your delusions in a journal. Yes, this includes you schizos posting about random names in a FFXI thread and staff trying to damage control under the guise of anon.

Retail
http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/index.shtml

Private servers
Cactuar
https://www.cactuarxi.com/
Catseye
https://catseyexi.com/
Eden
https://edenxi.com
Eventide
https://www.eventidexi.org/
HorizonXI
https://horizonxi.com/
Phoenix
https://phoenixxi.online/
ZenithXI
https://www.zenithxi.com/

Resources
https://flippantry.com/skillchain/
http://www.ffxicalculator.com/
http://www.pyogenes.com/ffxi/timer/v2.html
https://ffxiclopedia.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page
https://www.bg-wiki.com/ffxi/Main_Page
https://classicffxi.fandom.com/wiki/Classic_FFXI_community
http://campsitarus.blogspot.com/

Old thread: >>2085793
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At this rate we should just move back to /vg/.
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http://www.playonline.com/ff11us/campaign/login/login150.html

What do I prioritize as a newfag?
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>>2101266
What job are you playing?
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>>2101151
Dyna can't take more than 3.5 hours/run so that math ain't mathing.
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>dead servers and wrong URLs in OP
>"""""""accurate"""""""
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>>2101342
Use this thread instead since OP is a fag >>2101274
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>>2101342
My bad

RebornXI
https://www.reddit.com/r/FFXIPrivateServers/comments/1p63fq8/rebornxi_beta_is_live/
No website yet.
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>>2101351
kill yourself
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Couldn't go 10 posts without schizos. How's everyone's weekly grind going?
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>>2101364
couldn't even go zero. The OP already pozzed the thread
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>>2101366
Because they forgot Reborn? It's not even released yet.
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>>2101372
Reborn staff allow slurs. Our new fresh?
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>>2101364
6x dynas done
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>>2101372
cactuar is closed and that's not the right url for phoenix
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What's the ETA on the new retail zone?
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>>2101266
1000 tier is the item based on your job.
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>>2101404
couple years probably
what can they even add? I can guarantee you there's probably a dozen zones that are already in the game that literally no one goes to anymore, we don't really need more zones
Like, who the fuck goes to Uleguerand Range anymore?
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>>2101429
It's still a pretty zone. Not sure what they can do to entice people to old zones besides add new things. Even then people will just HP warp and not actually explore the zone.
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>>2101364
I'm so close to THF 75 I can taste it. Desperate for exp now.
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>>2101468
Kill pets in sea bwo
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>>2101439
I just find it annoying that I'll say something like "oh yeah just go to Pso 'Xja" and one other guy (who is level 99 btw) is like "what the fuck is Pso 'Xja?" as if he didn't spend a single second going out of his way to explore the world while he just powerlevel'd to max using the wiki's level guide. People aren't interested in the game anymore, they're just interested in getting phat L00TZ
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>>2101473
I tried to duo with a NIN the other day but lots of people apparently farm 70-75 in sea. Was a bit salty but competing over BST pets wasn't worth it. Might just leech from a merit party.
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Why is the Eco Warrior quest so popular? It only gives ~10 enemies worth of exp, why are there so many shouts for it every week?
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>>2101476
Well the game used to make you run around to all these zones to get phat loot. Now you can skip it all for whatever reason. Wish they made more players complete the story before grinding end game.
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>>2101491
The exp scroll is lots of exp for little effort. And you can get the 10k exp bonus for when you do have parties. Also free 10k of gil. If you're tryhard you can get it all in 20 minutes so it's definitely worth it.
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>>2101266
Ciphers/Trusts
Mog Patio for more storage space
5 point seals for BCNMs
I think a few of the equippable items, if not all, can be fused as a pair with synergy to make an "upgraded" item, it's more for gimmicky stuff at level 1, Like the Erudite's Staff +1 gives you 5% fast cast at level 1, which is funny to think about but they're mostly useless for anyone above level 50
that's pretty much it. The other stuff is like mounts or decorations or high end NM pop items.
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What is your favorite zone weather and why is it Light?
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>>2101491
because it's consistent free exp that requires no time commitment really
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>>2101548
Fire after being stockholm syndrome'd into liking it after waiting 2 real ass months to find it for my summoner quest
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>>2101548
Fog for digging.
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https://phoenix-xi.com/home
this is the official PhoenixXI link. OP is an Aerec simp that purposely posts the wrong link despite the last couple threads having it corrected.
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>>2101585
I'll add this to next OP thanks anon.
No idea who Aerec simp is.
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>>2101404
it took them 2-3 years to add Race Changes from when it was 1st announced.
expect 1 "new" zone in 2027, maybe for the 25th anniversary (probably not)
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>>2101601
wait, did they actually add race change finally? when did this happen?
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>>2101633
this year
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>>2101641
THIS YEAR????
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>>2101643
yes
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>>2101643
Join the catgirl club, brother.
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>>2101585
OP is as always, a faggot
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>>2101659
why would anyone not be an elvaan female, i wonder. Them thighs deserve awards, one each.
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>>2101674
If you're Mithra height then you can have those femvaan thighs at face level.
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could SE turn off the level 90 enemies in level 30 areas please? I'm just grinding in Gusgen, fighting level 25 damselflies, I go into the next room, I attack another Damselfly, and it fucking one shots me because it's level 85. I don't think anyone even grinds the early areas anymore for the high level enemies, so they really just serve as annoying scrubkillers instead of exptanks
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>>2101683
/check is your friend
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>>2101716
they're both damselflies, literally one room apart, I'm not gonna check every single enemy while mindlessly grinding for an hour straight
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>>2101723
Sounds like a skill issue
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>>2101683
SE was retarded and tied abyssea to level cap increases so they ruined all the soul old zones had with their new mobs. They ruined good low level camps for shit places no one levels at.
It's a shame Adoulin was such a nothing burger expansion and they didn't it tie it to any level increase at all. so many 109 or whatever gear that's completely worthless.
Retail is just shit for finding mobs of a reasonable level or difficulty these days though. Want to find a mob 119+ that doesn't die in one weapon skill? Oh try a tiny area in those shitty gates zones in Adoulin that everyone hated! They completely lost the plot of finding exp camps and that's why I doubt they could even make another good zone. If they did it'd probably be sea but BLACKED or some shit like they did to sky.
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>>2100972
> Claims they are not a clout chaser
> Infiltrates every social circle in attempt attempt for clout farming
> Deploys her simp for bonus clout farming
> Obsessively visits 4 chan for possible drama and clout prospects
> Easily offended by called out.

Yikes
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>>2101251
How do i get into this game as an fxiv player.....?
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>>2102136
What do you mean "how"? Just go in blind, that's the dream, to have a good MMO that you know nothing about and have a ton of stuff to explore/uncover. There's nothing at stake regardless of any decision you make in the game.
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>>2102136
if you're playing retail for the story, you're going to need to learn the menu system, accepting quests, and records of eminence of which there are many, this is the primary way new players make money.
trust magic are your party members unless you can miraculously find people who want to play together, it's a rare thing on retail before max level. Just the basic ones are good enough to solo yourself to max level though.
doign everything with friends is much better, having one person pl you to 99 can take a few hours rather than a few weeks. The first time to 99 the limit break quests help you unlock every 5 level increment from 50-99
Merits are the old system of advancement, but they're not hard to get anymore, you'll frequently cap them, and you need to dump them as often as possible when you start doing job points parties then theres mastery levels, they're like merits and job points but help you improve your subjob level and idk what else they're for i tapped out. gearing at 99 is hard, and tedious, and nothing like 14. This game is extremely expensive and gear dependent and being able to swap gear multiple times during an action is the way this game is played.
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Anyone new wanna come join us for some ffxi tomorrow? We're all level 10, we got a few guys and a steam group already >>2074307
Come on, let's play some ffxi with anons!
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>>2101533
patio does not give you storage space, its just a skin for second floor
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>>2102562
You guys going to loot him?
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HOW WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOU COULD ONLY EXPERIENCE IT ONCE? HOW WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW YOU'D ONLY FEEL THAT BOAT RIDE A SINGLE TIME?? THAT LANDING IN AHT URHGAN A SINGLE TIME??? HOW WERE YOU SUPPOSED TO KNOW NOTHING WOULD EVER MAKE YOU FEEL THIS WAY AGAIN EVER???? WHY IS THIS A THING?!?!?!!!!!!!!
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>>2102836

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4D0iu2PrXF0&t=1s
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So what's the difference between Zenith and Phoenix? Which one is more likely to actually go live?
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>>2102907
Phoenix is era, and Zenith is very custom. 75 cap but with trusts. I don’t have a lot of faith in Zenith to actually launch because they announced a year ago but still won’t even say what year they are launching in
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>>2102907
They're both different and offer different experiences. Read up on them and pick whichever you like best. Not going to guess on which goes live first because I'm out of hopium.
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>>2102907
Phoenix is attempting to be 99% era (1% are small QoL changes/things that can't be replicated on private servers).
It's dev team makes up long-time FFXI private server players/former Horizon devs looking for a more era experience.

Zenith is a different flavor of classic+, similar to Horizon. Zenith will have trusts that will supposedly be nerfed in power and only 1-2 can be summoned, and the various 75+ job abilities/traits/spells from modern retail will be brought in to help balance jobs, or something. along with other changes
It's dev team is supposedly headed by Loxley hiding under an alt account, who is a dev for CatsEye.

Phoenix has had frequent updates and seem to be making steady progress every day.
Zenith hasn't had any progress updates in months, but their CM did just post some new retarded "Report" video where she roleplayed playing FFXI in podcast form, it was retarded.
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>>2102907
Phoenix will be playable before Zenith, which if you're Zenith is probably a good thing
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>>2101476
The game isn't fun to explore at 99 era you pretty much out level 95% of monsters so just blindly run by everything, most of these zones don't have music and theirs nothing in them because they were made for either an expac storyline for a single quest or xp parties but you still have to obnoxiously check everything just in case square decided to add like 7 monsters at level 118 randomly in a level 50 zone like wtf
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>>2103068
The history of servers announcing then rushing to go live has almost always backfired. Nothing wrong with taking your time and having a stable, bug-free release.
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>>2103078
They need a trailer, I can assure you horizon just having a trailer put it miles ahead of everything else. It's where I found out it was coming out.
I don't feel like looking it up but it's something like 40k views I think? If only 10% of those players actually bothered to try it that's 4k players, more popular than everyother pserver in ffxi history
Which is what horizon launched with.
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>>2103048
Kind of creepy that you looked all this up.
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>>2103083
The people that made the trailer are the devs for Phoenix. They'll make one when they get closer to launch.

>>2103101
idek if that's true about Loxley, I just saw some other schizo say that ITT. I don't play on CatsEye
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>>2103105
Why would you regurgitate things like that? Just reflects poorly on Phoenix now that you're sharing propaganda. Knew that server was bad news.
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>>2103113
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>>2103113
Why do you care? Just don’t play there. Somebody asked a question and it got answered.

I’m also waiting for Phoenix
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>>2103145
Answering with wrong information doesn't help anyone.
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>>2103154
Except it’s not wrong because he literally posted a picture from their official communication. Move on
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>>2103189
Except he didn't. Is reading that difficult for you?
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>>2103191
Shit and piss all you want
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another friday night without ffxi, fresh when
cba even seeking for parties on horizon now just feeling too pointless men...
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>>2103219
There is a general for another PS2 MMO (finally) on /vm/ AND you could consider going outside for once or the rope?
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>>2103101
Another poster here, I'm looking for a new FFXI server to play on because I hate Horizon. Just joining their discords and asking friends can give you this info. Doing the bare minimum research on what server to play is creepy?
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>>2103255
Have you tried Reborn?
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>>2103259
Oh yeah sure do want to invest time on a server someone is running from a box in their basement
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>>2103265
How about one sitting in a data center with these AWS/Cloudflare/Microsoft outages?
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>>2101251
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>>2103269
Yeah man, totally. A server hosted by a corporate enterprise service with 99% uptime and only minor down time is the same thing as a retard with a box in his garage. We totally believe you.
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>>2103397
As long as troubleshooting isn't just "it's your ISP" then I literally don't care where the server is hosted.
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>>2103405
You don't care if a server is down all the time cause a guy is hosting it in his house and he's at work, or asleep, and generally doesn't know what he's doing? Ok retard
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>>2103413
Never had that issue. Sounds like a you problem.
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>>2103420
Get a better ISP, sounds like a you problem
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>>2103425
Never had an issue with my ISP. Stay buttmad while I play on Reborn.
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>>2103436
the server is down again so I think you are the one who is mad
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>>2103442
Skill issue.
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>>2103436
Hi Stickyd
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>>2103101
>"do your own due diligence and decide on a server for yourself!"
>we live in an age where you can find user reviews for everything, including garbage cans (and garbage servers)
>do the needful and research server options, who is supporting them, their goals, rules, history because MMOs are ungodly timesinks, especially if you're trying to bait friends into playing
>"errm kind of creepy that you looked all this up"
1 int post
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>being so desperate for fresh you're playing on reborn

at least it's more alive than eventard i guess
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>>2103265
Who genuinely cares
You're playing ffxi, which any MMO is a time waste but double for ffxi. your time means nothing like surely everyone came to the conclusion that one day your character retail or pserver in any MMO just won't matter anymore, right?
Like I'm not in the minority that's fine with that and just enjoy playing the game while it's there
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>>2103545
literally me, can remember having this convo irl about wow pservers in the pub in 2011, be free mentally, play all servers/experiences, give not one fuck about what happens to your character
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Does anyone even like Prishe? She's the most annoying expac char and SE acts like she's Altana's gift to Hume but I find her annoying and stupid.
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>>2103848
me, i love prishe.
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>>2103515
No you dumb faggot. It's creepy because they did obsessive amounts of research out jealousy and that other servers might pose a threat to the server they play on. Not for any genuine interests of playing on a new server. I.E a nosey neighbor. Creepy dumb faggot
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>>2104259
>oh my god you actually RESEARCH things????? that's like so totally icky...
woman behavior
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>>2104285
>>2104259
He didn't research, he literally said
>idek if that's true
after posting paragraphs
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omg you looked into the background of the private server you're considering playing on? what a weirdo!
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>>2104259
No one cares. Have your melty elsewhere
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>>2104313
why do you care so much if you're not part of the dev team for one of these servers?
unless...
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>>2104529
There's no reason for regular players to push propaganda.
Unless...
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>>2104608
so you admit that's what you're doing? free propaganda for aerec?
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>>2104641
I wish I had your room temp IQ for these mental gymnastics.
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>>2104357
Shut up faggot you dont own 4chan. Kill yourself please kill yourself quickly
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>>2104285
100% Woman behavior. Wifi reaches the kitchen nowadays.
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I need a new server that is not as corrupt as Horizon with devs that are not as shady as Horizon's devs. Which of the 3 new servers can I choose from that has the least amount of corruption?
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>>2104679
Zero because shizos will always make up shit to accuse staff of corruption for every single private server
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>>2104679
the anon schizo-only server
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>>2102562
Did someone take a screenshot of that funguar mollywhopping our asses earlier?
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>>2104801
darn, I should have
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>>2104801
Why are you on 4chan asking about it? Kind of weird
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>>2104690
Its the same schizo women traveling to each server.
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>>2104801
>>2104804
Best I got
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>>2104829
Because they formed their group via 4chan boards. Go be miserable somewhere else.
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>>2102562
>>2104801
Which server are you guys on?
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>>2104876
Horizon, started new characters with a group of dudes a few weeks ago
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>>2104877
Have fun out there, I have nothing against Horizon I just would like to avoid starting on an old server again, hoping any of the up and coming servers go live soon.
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>>2104888
I wasn't the one who made the decision to start on Horizon, but I am really interested in Treasure of Aht Urghan and would be willing to go to whatever server has it if everyone else in the group also wants to go too.
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>>2104897
Yeah ToAU is a requirement for me cause I main BLU.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/zenithxi/comments/1pfeb60/zenithxi_development_progress_report_ii/

>To maintain this level of dedication across the project, we've completed a refresh of our staff. This process involved cycling out inactive members to make room for new talent.
how tf do you already have inactive staff, the server was announced like 6 months ago
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>>2104974
Just get the AI that made the video and voice changer to code the server.
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>AI generated post
>AI generated website
>AI generated staff
zenith is DoA
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>>2104897
Why didn't you just make a char on Eden or one of the servers that already had TOAU then?
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>>2104974
>>2105041
>>2105069
Examples of the creepy people that have no interest in playing on the new servers but creepily join the discord to gather information. Drama farm is real with the insecure Horizon trolls.
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>>2105154
uh oh melty!
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The target audience of Zenith doesn't exist does it?
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>>2105177
No it doesn't. It's just people who have been banned from other private servers.
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>>2105177
Im more willing to give it a try than Phoenix if they existed in similar time frames but Phoenix seems like its coming first by a decent margin
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>>2105208
Phoenix is definitely coming sooner than people think just because of how fast they are working.
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>>2105217
>>2105208
>same fruit cake staff clique
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>>2103048
Loxley is a pretty cool guy. I've spoken with him a bunch of times, and his content on CEXI is the only thing good about that entire server.
If that's true then Zenith is basically going to be a crystal warrior server minus the unlimited crafting/fishing and no AH access and that sounds pretty fucking awesome.
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Concerning amount of AI/GPT responses in this thread.
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Zenith bros...
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>>2105415
ChatGPT generate some responses to this schizo thread in support of my up and coming tranny private server
doot doot
I'm tired of all of these servers with 1.5-2 years of lead out who have to generate hype for their HorizonXI replacement server that's still in conception.
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>>2103105
>Re-experience the golden age of FFXI, for the 6th time, again, like the first six times you've experienced it but this time it will be epic, trust me bro.
>Journey through Aht Urhgan, again, like you did last time, and the time before that, and so on. This isn't Horizon where they don't have Aht Urhgan, we actually have Aht Urhgan.
>True single box server. Tell your friends, cause you won't be playing much without them
>Era accurate gameplay, hopefully, maybe, get your Haguns ready boys
>A lasting adventure, using the same pserver codebase everyone else is using.
oh boy, who's ready to bot fishing again, for the 8th time? Who's ready to spam exp parties to 75 and get basic minimum ass gear so we can camp HNMs again like it's a full-time job again for the 8th time?
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>>2105439

Why are you here?

Bro you know no one likes you right?
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>>2103113

Hey Aerec, hows your failed server going?
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>>2105439
trvke
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https://github.com/sruon/XIDivert/tree/main

New tech just dropped from LSB folx. How long until Aerec takes credit?
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>>2105439
>Tell your friends, cause you won't be playing much without them
why are you pretending this is a bad thing?
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I want to get back into FFXI but I kind of want to like just do side activities like gathering and crafting to feed into the economy. Obviously I'd get to level cap and stuff too but I want to focus more on the life skills. What server would y'all recommend or should I just play official again?
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>>2105812
Horizon but most of the markets are already cornered or exhausted
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>>2105812

Just wait for the next fresh
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>>2105812
Did nothing but fish dig craft for like a year on horizon. Don't really suggest it, WFHs will bend you over on the AH and they're everywhere. Retail crafting is completely dead and anything of value is botted anyway or cheated.
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>>2105716
Can you ELI5 I don't understand this code shit.
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>>2105439
So real though god damn the amount of hours i've spent monitoring fantasyfisher in my life is insane
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>>2105826
When will that be anon? I can't handle any more "soon" timelines.
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>>2106165

Soon.

2026

sometime

maybe

2027 at most

maybe

probably
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>>2105504
Gradually bleeding #s and making people hate ffxi as we speak.
~~ We have 5k players ~~
~~ We have 4k players ~~
~~ We have 2k players ~~
We have a steady 1.5k players
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>>2105434
Sis you seem pretty mad for no reason. So much hate in this post.
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>>2105335
Crystal Warrior server? No thanks. Zenith sounds a server ran by a woman who wants to feel special. I bet Hugin is on already on Zenith server for reasons.
> No AH access?
DoA
>Trusts?
DoA
>Woman in charge?
DoA
> Infiltrated by thirsty devs from Horizon
So Horizon repeat. DoA.

Looks like Phoenix is the way to go.
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>>2106411
>We have a steady 1.5k players
now subtract all the dynamis currency farm alts
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>>2106411
total players or online at once?
pretty sure server peak is like 2.5k so you must mean total players
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>>2106444
But Phoenix has a woman in charge of the coding on staff lol DOA?
Shuu - furry
Crit - woman
Kipling - abnormally horny fat man
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>>2106264
meet in ballista anon
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All new servers are DoA the hype is gone get over it nobody cares
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>>2106732
proof?
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>>2106735
>Zenith: 0 players online
>Phoenix: 0 players online
>Reborn: 0 players online
All DoA
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Phoenix advertising doesnt stop until there's enough players to supply crystals and mats for Kiplings buddies to steamroll 75 and ruin the fresh economy
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>>2106748
If by advertising you mean shitting on other servers instead of promoting their own then yes. Notice the shift of Horizon shilling to Phoenix shilling? All Kipling. As if these 4chan threads have enough players to make a difference.
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yes it's all true I am the one known as Kipling
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No I'm Kipling
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>>2106748
>>2106739

Horizon shills are terrified.
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>>2106868
Horizon shills are now just Phoenix shills. Nobody cares but Kipling's circle.
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>>2106896

Horizon shill spotted.
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Every post I dont agree with is an [insert server name here] shill.
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>>2106975

Yes, exactly. You have spoken a truth more true than truth itself, and that brings you into your being, not constrained by the metaphorical lies that are spread by the weak minded stupid neanderthal-like apes that walk the planet today.
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>>2106748
Isn't this what happened on Aerec's server?
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>>2106465
ok.
That brings us down to 200 players. 4 year COP server forced everyone else to farm dyna currency.
200 players. After bot inflation of course.
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>>2106618

Aerec's Server shill spotted. At least Kipling isn't the marionette of a pig woman.
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>>2107151
Who is the pig woman?
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>>2107159
Bremba
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>>2107159
his fat ass wife who does nothing but demands to be in the staff discord
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>>2107151
He is the pig.
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I am the pig
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>>2107557
Shut the fuck up Kipling.
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Seriously thinking about rolling a Crystal Warrior on CatsEye, Closing my discord account permanently & never coming back to this website.
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>>2106444
I'm not playing on your gay server. Phoenix is going to have the population of Cactuar and nobody's going to play there but you and the 3 people you can convince to go.
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>>2107732
Do it. CW is the only good thing about CatsEye though. If Zenith ends up being the same thing and if Loxley is actually involved THEN I'll switch
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you DO have it at the correct spot, don't you?
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>>2107758
Cope. Stay scared and don’t forget to breath while deepthroating Aerec
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>>2107999
Sounds like you're just buttmad i don't want to play on your faggot server. I already know what kind of faggots are going to play there.
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>>2108049
Not you thankfully. Go play on zenith with all the other banned fags
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>>2108069
sounds good to me, you and the 49 other people who want to play on Phoenix can hopefully fuck off.
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>>2108099
On zenith 40 of those 49 will be trusts
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>these whiney two little mongs again
Droll
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>>2108069
pretty sure this is a gpt response boys it gets repeated all the time
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>>2108132
Yup.
>banned fags
>in a scene where permbans don't exist and you can avoid on every server
??????????????????
I've been banned twice on horizon doesn't stop me from playing there every day with the same account name but with a 3 on the end now, we are amongst retards
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>>2108148
Proof?
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>>2108440
>have to burn discord every new account
>asks for proof
kill yourself my man
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>>2106735
>>2108440
Contributes nothing but spam.
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>>2107993
sorry kid I always played on PC with everything on except shadows and weather
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>>2108148
SELECT * FROM accounts WHERE login LIKE '%3';
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>>2108637
Proof?
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>>2108109
That's okay if it is, I'm hoping for a non-pozzed CEXI-like server not the Eden/Wings/Nasomi/Horizon containment server.
Hopefully we get some people who aren't schizos.
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>>2108099
Horizon Shill why are you so insecure about other servers being made?
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>>2109317
>I'm hoping for a non-pozzed CEXI-like server
zenith is already pozzed. their AI garbage is everywhere, there's not a single clue to be had behind the scenes. they use fucking JIRA of all things. lmao
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>>2109331

>Aerec when one of the fresh steals most of his player base because people are tired of being stuck in CoP purgatory
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>>2109749

Ill bet he will actually announce a release date right before phoenix releases to try to prevent people from leaving, the funny thing is it will likely be so unfinished / broken that people will leave anyway
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>>2109374
AI probably writes better code than Horizon devs do.
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>>2109756
might as well leave anyway unless you have a horizon relic because the ToAU economy will be fucked anyway
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>>2109851

What do you mean?

>Looks at my 82 million gil from printing for an entire year
>Looks at my 2 mules filled with 100s of stacks of Orichalcum Ingots ready to go balls deep
>Currently working on my 3rd relic and just finished by last 75

You dumb, will be fine
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>>2109756
Fully expecting Phoenix to give a launch date and then Horizon's ToAU launch will be announced with a suspiciously close launch date to Phoenix's.
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>>2109876
Aerec had his dick in your mouth for that long? I thought niggers wanted to be free from slavery
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>>2109841
Well... certainly the same or better quality as aerec...
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>>2109901
people will just dualbox while camping the new hnms and that's it lmao.
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>>2110214
Does Aerecs server have dualboxers on it?
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>>2110253
i mean they'll dualbox leveling on phoenix while camping hnms on horizon in that scenario.
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>>2110256
Does Aerecs server have dualboxers on it?
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why does everyone care so much what server other people play on? if you don't like a server, just don't play on it, it's that easy
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>>2110450
Sorry anon I must push my propaganda about people that live rent free.
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>>2110475
uh yeah? well MY server is better
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>>2110482
How DARE you!
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>>2110490
Sorry but your server has {schizo} that has done {thing I can't prove}
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>>2110492
UHHH PROOF?????
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>>2107732
>can summon 2 trusts
literally what is the point
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>>2110620
>gamemode designed for people to actually play instead of being in a dress up unemployment competition
>what is the point
You have been raped in the mind mate give your head a shake
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>>2110620
Let's people solo the things they need to solo while not making trusts a viable replacement for an exp party.
Kind of like what the adventuring fellow was supposed to be
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>>2110429
dualboxing isn't allowed.
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>>2110671
You mean people who bot it?
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>>2110800
The adventuring fellow has to be leveled up and has access to abilities from 3-4 jobs that are half baked versions of the player ones.
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>>2110832
It was an idea SE had that was subsequently abandoned before it could become a useful feature, then we got trust magic.
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>>2110475
do you know what propaganda is? this is just gossip. i know moids hate that word because they associate it with waman but you guys just fucking love gossip here. it's worse than tmz because it's about the most nobody nobodies of all time
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>>2110841
Yes the adventuring fellow could be useful but it was mostly intended as a novelty to be used for things like farming for items from mobs, not really solo exp. More importantly you had to level them up for them to be useful which was another timesink as they could only be called once a day for about an hour.
Trusts are more powerful than the adventuring fellow could ever and definitely more powerful than the player in some cases, can cover every role on the party especially if you get access to at least 2, are leveled right out of the box and essentially perform the role of a player perfectly (including healing, support or skillchaining).
I am going to be perfectly honest, any person that wants to play “solo” in an mmo should not be considered a person and these subhumans should not be catered to.
Nobody wants trusts, there is a reason why despite all the features it has catseye remains the most unpopular server even when shit like Wings was around.
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>>2110913
Dual boxing is soloing
Beastmaster is soloing
Farming Dynamis on multiple alts to increase currency yields is also abuse and should be bannable
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>>2110919
Dualboxing is not allowed in horizon thats exactly why it got such a huge population on release that still remains decent and also why eden was literally gouged out of players.
Beastmasters are the niggers of horizon for a reason.
The rest of your post is irrelevant.
When are we getting Wotg aerec I want to play dancer
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>>2110919
>play an exp party on horizon
>bstgger or sub bstgger shows up to your commonly known exp camp and starts killing mobs that rank ep for them
You have to wonder why these faggots even play on horizon if they want to play SOLO when they can easily do this on eden or catseye or even retail
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>>2110932
BST is meta for bcnms and convenient for making money
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>>2110934
That doesn’t explain:
>why the bst mains fight EASY PREY MOBS for exp in common exp camps
>why some cunt gets on a job like drk or war with sub bst to solo easy prey mobs instead common exp camps instead of getting a party
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>>2110932
BSTs were doing this back in 2003, how dare you ignore 22 years of faggot tradition.
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>>2110913
holy fucking boomer
>Nobody wants trusts, there is a reason why despite all the features it has catseye remains the most unpopular server even when shit like Wings was around.
Wings was literally folded into CatsEye, wtf are you on about? back to bed, grandpa
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>>2110956
Wings was mismanaged but even wings had a population higher than catseye when it first released.
Please try posting actual arguments. I know you are young and easily influenced but you should try to form your own opinions.
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>>2110956
They were around at the same time before Wings folded, just CEXI was a totally different kind of server. After Wings got absorbed into CEXI, they stopped giving people mythic weapons for hitting 75/rank 10
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>>2110956
The reason wings got “absorbed” was because it was a poorly managed server and the reason it got more actual traction than it deserved was because it was a 75cap server where you could play wotg jobs.
Make an era server that has wotg and singlebox and you will instantly score tons of people.
Also it was more like wings got absorbed into horizon as wings devs are the ones that started horizon.
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>>2110972
>Let's take our poor server management experience and create a new poorly managed server!
>yeah!
>yeah!
>yeah!
>yeah!
and thus, HorizonXI. After months of careful planning, reddit posting, and tranny streamer recruitment, a pile of shit was born
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>>2110975
Not defending aerec because I want wotg now and its been three years and not even toau is out, but the one who mismanaged wings to the point where multiple things didn’t work and created shit like arrow burns was Gweith.
At least shit works on Horizon for the most part.
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>>2110960
Wings had equal player count, I already posted the numbers several threads ago.
Please stop being an irrational grandpa screaming "trusts bad!!" without actually explaining why they're bad, or considering it's possible to design trusts in a way that wouldn't be overpowered.

>>2110966
who said they weren't around? The fact is Wings got folded into CatsEye and not the other way around.
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>>2110986
>equal player count
No it does not and it never will no matter how much you cope.
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>>2110984
Shit worked on Wings too. Catseye and Horizon together aren't better than Wings was in its peak.
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>>2110986
So its true. Theres a catseye dev grifter in this very thread.
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>>2110986
I like the idea of having trusts the way they are on Crystal Warrior
You get one at level 10, 2 at 40, that's it.
Maybe limit it to one, between Kupipi, Ayame, and Nanaa Mihgo with TH2
Make them unusable in an exp party.
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>>2110995
Honestly posts like this is exactly what makes me believe most of this thread is just some mad idiot that doesn’t like one or maybe a few of horizons rules or settings.
You cannot go 1 post in this thread without a random grift or eceleb drama for people that aren’t even ecelebs. I wish everyone who streams videogames would just disappear, I want the old community back.
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>>2111001
>TH2
So basically you want an entire jobs purpose to just exist and create problems like ballad 2 scroll farming but with every job?
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>>2111001
>Make them unusable in an exp party
Make trusts count for 2 party slots.
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>>2111001
Are you people just mad that mostly everyone plays dps and very few people actually like playing rdm, whm or brd?
At least blms came up with blm burns once melee dd got bored of actually having to skillchain. I still try to do am mb parties in horizon when I can.
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>>2111009
-exist for every job
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>>2111009
fuck thief, you know what you signed up for.
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>>2111015
Not an argument. What makes ffxi fun for group play is every job having its own specific niche. The main nostalgia this game has is making parties with strangers and making friends with them eventually. You just don’t want to bother grouping up and want to be able to do everything yourself which tells me a lot of how your experiences were when grouping up.
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>>2111019
in this specific scenario that will be the only trust you ever get, you'll be limited to using it solo.
>can't use in a party
>pick one of three
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>>2111020
Thats exactly the problem though. A th2 trust is something you would mostly only ever use when soloing, which is the same reason why you’d level a thief.
Thiefs singular use now only comes at endgame alliance content as tagging mobs with th2-3.
You wouldn’t invite one for a coffer key farm or sub it or anything more low scale like that.
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>>2111030
you would have to pick that though, and once the utility wears off it's useless. You can't help your friend solo his coffer keys with it, it's probably the worst of the three unless you're a LW/BC BST that spends your day farming devil mantas.
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>>2110991
you're right, it had less

>>2111001
This seems ok. I think the better idea from a classic+ perspective would be to only allow 1-2 trusts, only in EXP parties and not in any instanced/worthwhile content.
One of the worst, most time-consuming aspects of this game is grinding EXP, and while it can be enjoyable, it's a lot of grinding you have to do if you want to play more than 1 job. Allowing trusts to fill 1-2 spots when someone in your party has to leave and can't find an immediate rep would allow players to login at almost any time of the day and have more opportunities to gain EXP without raw increases to the amount after kill. There power could be nerfed slightly such that they are never as good as the average player, and thus you'd always still want to find reps when you could.
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>>2111036
You don’t have to help a friend cause the friend can just do it himself with his own trust.

>>2111037
Please stop lying.
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>>2111037
Honestly if you actually want to convince people to play on your shitty server then maybe you can start by not being a falseflagging cunt?
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Is spicyryan still visiting these threads?
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>>2111040
Truth hurts I guess, probably a MAGAtard too hahaha grandpa
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>>2111047
>poltard as well
Serves as a good reminder to ignore all catseye posts
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https://youtu.be/9LlEHHf7I6I?t=177
What happened around April 2024 that caused Aerec to cry and consider shutting the server down? Any loremasters?
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>>2111056
Is that it? Sounds like some random dude talking out his ass. Where are the logs?
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>>2111040
i think most people would pick kupipi if given a choice between the three.
Advanced players might pick Ayame because besides having shit acc she opens skillchains and if you're closing with a relic she's going to be the best one.
if you're like a 75DRG/RDM with gungnir closing geirskogul or a 75 nin/war closing metsu, or a thf/nin closing MS reliably you're gonna have a good time.
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>>2111143
It always surprises me just how much the modern private server hates coordinating a skillchain with someone else. What exactly causes this mental illness?
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>>2111350
what do you care what other people do? If you can't beat out Ayame in usefulness that's because YOU suck.
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>>2111362
Good thing the private server scene doesn’t have trusts to begin with
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>>2111400
good for you i guess.
if you can't beat out a trust, that's a you problem.
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>>2111442
>immediately deflects to “if you can’t beat a trust” because they have no actual argument for trusts in a fucking mmo
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>>2110947
Because they are lazy and go to what they know instead of exploring elsewhere.
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>>2111527
Parties can also be blamed for this though
turns out when things flow through guides instead of word of mouth people think you HAVE to exp at a certain spot at specific level no matter what
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>>2111499
>still haven't presented why they shouldn't has exist
old people ruin the world in so many ways. everyone past 40 needs euthanasia
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>>2111694
Because you don’t play an mmo to play by yourself and it consequently also ruins the experience for those that actually want to play with other people. If trusts were actually a good thing more people would want them, why do you think they don’t? And why the fuck don’t you play a modern mmo if you want it so bad instead of trying to enforce your opinions on a community that doesn’t care for them.
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I wish I had trusts so I could get exp on this stupid THF I'm almost 75 why is exp so hard.
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>>2111698
It's almost like you could change them, since we're talking about private servers. Wow. Mind=blown
Why do you care what other people play so badly? just ignore and move on with your day. Impossible for you to do, since you're mentally ill, I know, but
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>>2111698
>And why the fuck don’t you play a modern mmo if you want it so bad instead of trying to enforce your opinions
holy irony LMAO
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>>2111705
Make your own party idiot
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>>2111718
Change them how? A trust is a fucking trust. No matter how much you nerf them and especially if you want to make them useable
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>>2111739
>still hasn't explained why it wouldnt work
this is how old people stuck in their ways work. meds, old man. bedtime soon
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>>2111738
I tried, nobody replies to /tell.
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>>2111738
Alot of the players in ffxi don't have the balls or the brains to make a party.
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>>2111749
stop lying and being a little bitch and just make the party bro
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>>2111768
>sorry I can't im falling asleep
The WHM who was seeking
>no response
The SMN seeking
No other healers seeking. Make one and invite me I'll give you 100k.
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>>2111776
Nigger just try another day holy fuck
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>>2111788
I want exp now you dumb fuck.
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>>2111788
>"just have free time whenever you choose. aren't you a 40 year old NEET like the rest of us?"
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>>2111006
the literal who's of this thread aren't even streamers, that's the most pathetic part. i would ALMOST understand gossiping about 15 viewer streamer andy's but all gossip is about their friends and exes as if anyone even knows who the fuck they are lmao
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>>2111499
Yes, why should i have to ask several people for help for every small thing i should be able to do myself? Yes, every task i do should take 4 people 3 hours to do.
Retail trusts don't replace good players, why would private server trusts? You think it's going to be the FFXI single player server where people don't talk and communicate with each other anymore, and you can go play on Phoenix where they promise you no trust magic.
you sound like a salty little bitch.
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im only against trusts because its such a boring bandaid fix for low population
why has no private server actually tried to spice it up? give me adventuring fellows with FF12 gambits or something
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>>2111866
seriously, h*rizon open coliseum when?
>inb4 schizo seething about someone i've never heard of
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>>2111852
Game was fine before women invaded it
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>>2111869
there were like 6 women and you chased them all off
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>>2111913
They're still here on these threads and haven't killed themselves yet
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>>2111946
ok schizo
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>>2111866
because that would require actual programming
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>>2111852
Because its an mmo. You’re supposed to interact with other people not do everything solo with trusts, which is exactly what you’re going to do for 75% of the game on zenith. Fuck off with your garbage opinion, its not good and you do not argue it at all you just regurgitate how much you want to play an MMO by yourself but still have people running around next to you. Its beyond pathetic
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>>2112194
Everyone plays BST on Aerec's server. Trying to solo as much as possible.
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>>2112194
>2 medium sized businesses
>2 kids
>wife
>8pm-midnight only realistic time window

Not my fault I'm lucky enough to live somewhere that forces you into society physically. I look forward to avoiding contact as we pass each other in San d'Oria.
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90% of trusts are actually kinda shit, they can't use special equipment, they don't use any more than 5-6 spells, a majority of the time they don't even really utilize a subjob, most of them skillchain randomly, only use 1 weaponskill, don't magic burst, don't know how to conserve MP, or deal with aggro management. They at least always have maximum skill levels, instant reaction times, and plenty of trusts have neat unique bonuses, unique abilities, or unique interactions between other trusts. The handful of actually good trusts (Shantotto, Archangels, Valainerel, Healers, etc.) make trusts appear way better than they really are, but if you use the B-list trusts you'll find they're actually just worst than a decently geared real player.
This is what trusts should have been, mediocre and lacking, as opposed to
>spams an AoE weaponskill every time he pulls aggro
>closes skillchains, shoots actual fucking nukes for only 11 MP each, and double magic bursts on every skillchain
>heals you and cures all your statuses the exact frame you took damage
>opens every skillchain automatically for you without planning, never misses a skillchain window

All in all, having an extra body there is always better than not having a person, so just any trust existing is always going to be a benefit to you as opposed to having an empty party slot. That being said, I unironically wish all the good trusts were nerfed to mediocrity to incentivize people into replacing them with real people, but still being allowed to use trusts if you need the utility.
I actually really like using mediocre trusts and finding party compositions with the unknown assholes that no one uses. I like using Mnejing and Ovjang the most because they're cute
I've compiled some data points on how many times I see other people using trusts
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i just got to 30 farming in Batallia Downs, what do now, do i keep farming Batallia Downs till 50?
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>>2112194
You want to know why world of warcraft took off while FFXI died? I was there, people who can from FFXI were like holy shit I can solo?
It was enough that Square Enix designed an entire system around letting players solo. It was a bad design choice, and even EverQuest had a bunch of solo capable classes. Even EverQuest has mercenaries(trusts) now.
No, it's because having to get a bunch of people together to do every retarded part of your mission progress is tedious. You have to also level a solo capable job. You're going to see a server full of puppet masters and beast masters soloing shit.
You're not going to see more people asking for help, people want to do that as little as possible. There's a reason things ended up the way they did and that reason involves your opinions being shit.
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>>2112542
>You're going to see a server full of puppet masters
yeah right, no one plays puppetmaster
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>boot up ffxi
>wait for it to load
>go take a shit while it loads up
>forgot I have to press "accept" or else it'll just boot me out for some stupid reason
>fuck
>boot up ffxi again
>wait for it to load
>go clean the dishes while it loads
>forgot to press "accept" again
>fuck
>boot up ffxi again...
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>>2112543
It's because of how expensive it is, pup is the most expensive class in the game.
On Eden it's not popular but pup is strong.
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>>2112554
there's also not a lot of resources for PUP other than a bunch of incomplete spreadsheets on attachment values
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>>2112547
use autologin and quicky on ashita

you won't have that problem ever again
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>>2112194
inferior opinion, old man
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>>2112407
People sleep on the Sinister Reign Trusts because nobody gets them that way anymore, they all work just like their boss fights do, which causes them to absolutely shit on the 1-50 grind. I personally use Teodor with Shantotto-2 all the way to my first 99.
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>>2112340
You’re just giving a pathetic cheap excuse. I also work 40+ hours a week and have a family. I can still make time to play when I want during my free time . You can stop lying anytime or get a better wife if she doesn’t let you have any hobbies.
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>>2112542
Literally who in the entire private server scene is interested in playing an “MMO”like wow? Nobody. Thats why its a small niche community and thats why nobody is interested in your shitty popularity contest. Yes everyone knows wow ruined the mmo genre by bringing in the normalfags and yes everyone already knows its fucked up beyond recovery. Nobody cares. Why do you insist on playing a game in a custom private server scene that does not appeal to you in anyway, maybe its because you’re fucking coping and want to fit in? I dont know. What i do know is that you need to fuck off
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>>2112340
>i dont have time for the game because i work
>that means nobody else works
Kill yourself my guy, you’re just spouting plain jelousy.
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>ffxi community
>man i have nostalgia for the time I played this game and did a bunch of exp parties for strangers
>make a private server specifically with this in mind
>its a huge success
>more servers follow
>least popular one is the one where you can do everything on your own or lets you dualbox
>some angry middle aged european in 4chan calling everyone an old man and complaining about his wife says the reason wow was successful is because you could solo
Hmmm
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>>2112542
I’m literally happy playing pic related with 50 other people at most forever in a private server. Wowfags can keep their normieinfested genre.
Your post just reeks of cope that you like shit like the combat in ffxi but hate having to do shit with other people. Its fucking insufferable dealing with people like you, 100% the community should be gatekept.
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>>2113118
>I’m literally happy playing pic related with 50 other people at most forever in a private server.
infinitely based
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>>2113118
>Oh no 23 years later you find out there's people you don't like in your favorite MMO.
Okay you johnny-come-lately retard. They made a containment server just for you and the 2 other perpetually butt-blasted fuckers who refuse any sort of progress. You can fuck off to Phoenix with >>2113086
Also you. Best of luck ever being happy.
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>>2113251
>Best of luck ever being happy.
He will be happy grinding the red boxes you don't even know exist
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>>2113251
uh oh melty!
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>>2113289
melty, response to melty and melty
melty edition
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>>2113086
>Literally who in the entire private server scene is interested in playing an “MMO”like wow?
Uhh, the 35k people playing Warmane right now.
The 12k people playing turtle wow right now.
I think the best we've ever done on a single realm was about 5k and those days are long gone.
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>>2112340
bro, the entire world of other genres of video games exists JUST for you. why choose to play a game where you have to play with others over, literally every other game ever made
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>>2113337
I see so you’re so retarded you cant even read
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>>2113251
Honestly you might not be spicyryan but you certainly act like him. How much does it bother you to lose your one place where you can infinitely complain about people who don’t even think about you. Does it hurt losing even the void you’re screaming to?
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>>2113075
Bro brings up his wife like he doesn't cheat on her with his e-kittens. Paying other bitches rent must be the hobby
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>>2113564
maybe you should speak English, nobody understands what your autistic brain is trying to convey.
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>>2113568
You’re thinking about him right now, faggot.
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>>2113708
yeah it's making me all hot and randy.
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My favorite thing about these threads is that every single person here thinks they have moral highground. However, you're all terrible creatures in God's eyes.
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>>2113790
>Altana
FTFY
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>>2113701
I wasn’t the one trying to pretend we were talking about the private server scene as a whole

>>2113708
>>2113790
Concession accepted spicy or not spicy
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>>2113790
>>2113795
>Aerec
FTFY
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>>2113790
god abandoned me at birth, i care not what he thinks
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>>2113877
Altana's always here for you babygirl.
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>>2113568
shut the fuck up Gregory
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>>2113902
Adoptive goddess dommy mommy.
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retailchads... VGH.... I kneel...
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>>2112461
please reply... its retail
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>>2112461
>>2114933
just do whatever you want nigga it's retail
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>>2114960
Am i really missing out for not playing in horizon? i just wanted to see the story and the current endgame
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>>2114933
just go check the fields/grounds of valor page on bg for camps, they moved around like all the mobs so who knows where anything is these days. While the pages generally aren't worth doing since you kill too fast anyway, they can be nice if the mobs are conveniently placed.
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>>2112461
Be like the pioneers, just like back in the day when the game first came out. (Level 50 cap)
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>>2114975
Maybe when it first launched but definitely not now
Unless for some reason you want to have some degree of understanding of who the schizos here keep screeching about
If you just want to see the story then retail is the only option. As for endgame... you probably won't see any of that even on retail
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>>2114987
>As for endgame... you probably won't see any of that even on retail
uuh... why? takes too much time?
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>>2114975
You will miss out on story if you do play on Horizon.
Also old school end game was just farming equipment for people who been there longer. They might not even accept you socially but as a body.
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>>2114975
You are missing out on the 1-75 parties and overal leveling experience. But retailfags will tell you the real game begins at 99, when you're grinding endgame gear. It depends on what you want out of the game, honestly.
I'm currently playing on Horizon, just got to 20, and its been a fun experience desu, but that's because I like leveling. There are a lot of parties around this level, it isn't like everyone is at max level already and waiting for you to catch up like retail.
>>2114987
>Maybe when it first launched but definitely not now
What do you mean? Did the experience get soured because there's an actual economy and some people are competing for endgame content instead of eveyone at level 1?
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>>2114975
>Story
You won't see this in Horizon
>End game
Horizon end game is sitting in the same place for 3+ hours watching Black mages nuke shit while you do nothing
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>>2115002
if anything it's better now. Launch was plagued with endgamefags that HAD to get to 75 so they leveled in lvl1 armor. BSTs everywhere. Oh, and don't forget the retardation around aerec locking OP warps behind the treants.
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>>2115143
You mean summoners.
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>>2115001
>They might not even accept you socially but as a body.
This fits my experience with Horizon end game, especially at launch.
People literally just wanted bodies for HNMs and slaves to farm sky pops.
Or retards to fund their dynamic relics "Don't worry bro we totally won't break the shell when we get ours :) you can have some AF2!"
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>>2115002
>Did the experience get soured because there's an actual economy
Horizon economy is literally shit lmfao
Fucking addicts farming Dynamis on all of their alts 24/7 to print gil because all other markets are either cornered or dead
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>>2114975
Start Fresh on Phoenix server, brand new server launch everyone will be level 1. New char struggles and everyone doing missions
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>>2115159
>Do the same shit that's already solved...again!
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>>2115153
That's some wow subhuman roach behavior, i expected more from you weebs, shoganai.
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>>2115161
Retail is also solved
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>>2115172
at least it isn't both tedious and solved
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>>2115174
So being solved isn't a problem in itself, since both classic and retail are solved. The problem is that there's some people that derive their fun from leveling and others from skipping the early era content and just farming the endgame stuff from the getgo. They're two different type of people with completely different priorities. Retail and Classic are not the same game at all and can coexist separately, if you think its tedioous that's a you problem, just go play retail.
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>>2115159
>New char struggles
Except not because all the illuminati fags team up and rig the game from the start
Only (You) will struggle
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>>2115185
horizon shill spotted
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>>2115224
I'm a horizon doomer albeit
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The entire story and game was meant to be beatable with just the basic equipment. End game gear only serves to make the character stronger beyond what the game requires. Also it's meant to show off to newer people as they use that equipment to help them, because what else are you gonna do?
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>>2115185
>yeah don’t go to that server for Illuminati fags go to [my preferred server] for Illuminati fags

Retard
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>>2115145
launch was kino as fuck when you had people congregating to do airship keys, limit breaks, and af quests. even the outpost warped being locked was kino because it made the world feel more alive before you had the convenience of warping wherever. i wouldn't wanna do that forever but it was nice for the month or so it lasted.
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>>2115152
Summoners and Black Mages, and the Token THF who tickles the monster's balls and fucks off.
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>>2115145
You realize Horizon was just replicating an event from retail that did the exact same thing with the treants unlocking outpost warps right? I hate Horizon too but don't pretend Aerec made up this event out of thin air.
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>>2114844
Bro, dost thou even sparkle?
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>>2115293
Lol this, the twinkling treant event on retail was 10x gayer, these ones didn't even teleport every 5%
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>>2115283
yeah people grouping and then you see a BST run along and solo everything that it takes your entire party. you are wrong

>>2115293
yeah wow just like retail except retail was level capped at the time so if you actually tried to help kill the treants on horizon you fell impossibly behind so aerec's clique hit 75 before you and got world firsts before you and you got... nothing. you are wrong
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>>2115305
Go level somewhere else? Bsts are the ones that tend to try and level in common exp zones because the average BST is a one-track NPC.
Go find the spot on campsitarus.
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>>2115305
aerec's clique didn't even hit 75 first, it was juul's and they used 2 bsts because of the rabbit healing exploit.
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>>2115310
af quests and missions are levelling?

>>2115313
post your world first 100 cooking faggot
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>>2115305
On NA release we had RoZ and the cap was 75, treants were 2 months later in December. I remember killing a few of them on Shiva, I was a level 25 ranger at the time
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>>2115318
HURR DURR WELL ACTUALLY THE GAME FUCKING STARTED LEVEL CAP 50 SO WHY SHOULDN'T HORIZON THEN RETARD? WHO CARES ABOUT ACCURACY, IT'S ALREADY FUCKING BROKEN DIPSHIT! BESIDES YOU WEREN'T LEVELING TO 75 IN A WEEK
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Don't forget to follow the devs around on Phoenix so you don't miss out on the 10k gil bat ladder pulls this time
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>>2115334
?
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>>2115156
Economy is beyond cooked. Rampant printing and unchecked nonstop dynamis has ruined it.
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>>2115305
whaaaaa some people got 75 before other people whaaaaa :( :( and it doesnt even matter now 3 years later

Find something actually worthwhile to whine about please
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>>2115407
That wasn’t real. Unfortunately you are retarded and susceptible to internet propaganda
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>>2115550
>it wasn't real
ok aerec
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>>2115334
yeah it started level cap 50 in Japan, everyone else in the world started at 75.
Take your fucking meds.
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>>2115611
actually no i'm wrong, we started at 70 in NA, then 75 came in December 2003, but all the ps2 fags started with the 75 cap
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>>2115550
Making up shit and gas lightining people is what Horizon is all about!
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>>2115437
4 years later. Women can't count only cook
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>>2115185
I won't struggle. I hang out with the devs for free insider info and perks.
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Anyone else here bot fishing on Horizon? it's real comfy. GMs don't even bother me anymore.
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Me nose holes smell the joy,
the joy from happy toy!
wheeere cooould iiit beee?
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>>2115675
Anon I suck at the running event, how do I improve? THF and flee?
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>>2115564
No I can just read LSB issues and am not a brainwashed goysheep like yourself
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>>2115679
>I can read
Nice try, buddy.
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>>2115678
no need, this one is super easy
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>>2115687
I will try it and report back.
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>>2115652
>Horizon launched 12/17/2022
>Its 3 years later
That's a big oof on your part dude, time to go back to school
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>>2114844
what model viewer is this?
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>>2114975
You will only get the beginning of the story in horizon and cop. If you want to experience the whole story you need to play retail.
You will never get to endgame in retail it starts about 6 months after you hit 99 and thats if you grind dilligentlyand with a lot of money grinding for gear. You will also be forced to play a support like brd or geo if you want to get anywhere or you will have to buy mercs
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FFXI endgame be like "You loved upgrading your armor to +3 NOW, experience the upgrade to... +4"
Is there nobody at square enix to decide that endlessly recycling old content and calling it an update is bad game design? Or are these guys just milking the game until it dies?
Where's the synergy to combine AF+relic+empy +4 to some new armor type that combines the best/unique stats of all 3?
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>>2115758
You'll get TOAU story on Phoenix server
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>>2115721
Go back to the kitchen baited cunt. Butthur
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>>2115721
Horizon Shill detected LOL
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>>2115888
Phoenix Shill detected LOL
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>>2115161
>green texted something many people unironically want
wow, you sure told them!
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>>2115888
They saw Horizon was dead in the water due to Aerec’s incompetence and went to make another sever without him that will actually get TOAU. Based.
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>>2115911
Yeah I'm fucking gobblin on Aerec's dick because I can do math
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>>2101251
QUESTION: my friend group is thinking of returning to FF11 Horizon after we adjourned last year having almost finished RotZ. What is the current state of Horizon? We are not interested in leaving our hundreds of hours of time invested behind to start all over on another private server (Phoenix?). We were in it for the social and addictive experience of the levelling party and the missions.
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>>2116143
If you're into min/maxing, state is quite a disaster. If you just want to level and have fun, then you can find plenty of it on Horizon still.
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>>2116143
server is still healthy all things considered. this thread isnt representative of the state of the server. It still averages 2.2k+ during peak times, plenty of people in all level ranges doing content.
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Hey guys I really really really want to play Final Fantasy 11 on a single box 75cap with no trusts private server, but maaaaaan I wish it deviated JUST slightly from traditional Era Tanaka's vision (you could call it Era+ or something)
Could any anon suggest a server for me and my totally real group of friends?
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>>2116164
how is the gil inflation? We had 100k gil each when we last played. Also, any word on TOAU? I remember last year that were implying that TOAU would drop on Christmas, but it didn't happen.
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>>2116143
the same as when you left it except now the end game shells are so cemented that it's just people selling drops and dynamis currency xN
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>>2115153
If you don't get a split at the end of a dynamis run, then you are a retard.
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>>2116143
TFW zenith doesn't even get mentioned anymore.
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>>2116203
Are there actual retards who farm dynamis without getting paid?
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>>2116454
Git hasn't updated in 4 months, its dead anon.
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>>2115758
>horizon just puts you in the middle of the city
>then you kill mooks for digital pixels for 100000 hours
>>2115888
Allah Wills it
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>>2115658
is there a free bot for fishing in horizonxi? can't really find one anywhere.
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>>2116772
google fantasyfisher, grab a download of it from wherever you can, may require signing up to some dog shit forums etc
once you have fantasyfisher find a way to get ahold of a program called ProcHelp32 (At0m0s discord iirc) you use ProcHelp32 to open fantasyfisher (click the icon once you've clicked prochelp32) and then fantasyfisher will just work, will be able to see ur toon on horizonxi in the list etc, the options on the fantasyfisher interface are retard proof (you want to catch unknown, release monsters, stop if moved, stop if /tell etc etc)
but yeah get fantasyfisher and then prochelp32 (cheater dll made by popular guy in community that makes addons/programs, doesn't fucking stink at all does it????!!!!) and you are good to go
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>>2116806
The best part is unless you leave it on overnight the GMs can't really tell you're using it. I've been bot fishing for 10+ years now. All the banned fags went afk for 5 minutes and got got.
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>>2116191
Hey buddy why don't you try out this great trannymode server called Horizon XI. It's ever so slightly different in a lot of gay and or queer ways and the server staff stand by ready to cater to all of your tranny needs.
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>>2116194
pretty bad. I had about 60k from various things in the first 6 months of the game and bought a bunch of torques and scrolls when they were 3-5k each, now they're going for 100-400k each.
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>>2116856
I'm not an e-slut. I won't get staff perk.
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>>2117108
Oh come on guy, it's not hard, you just gotta put on your g-string and twerk a little on webcam for me and the boys -Aerec
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>>2116456
Unfortunately.
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>>2117108
Doesn't matter, just download a cutiepie vtuber off Etsy or Fiver, find a cheap voice changer, and voila! You're now desirable by Hugin and if you play your cards right, he might even pay your rent!
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>>2117208
If I do will you pay my rent, buff my relic, and tell me about future patch notes before the rest of the community? I will twerk for insider trading news
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>>2117589
LOL BEAT ME TO IT anon!
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>>2117589
Do you think Rahne let him hit in Vegas?
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>>2117732
>luxor staff seething at having to deal with the mess
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When free login I want to play
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>>2116806
Thanks anon, i downloaded everything but when i try to start fishing it says "failed to locate fishing rod to equip, cannot continue"....it seems that FantasyFisher cannot detect my rod and bait.
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>>2118546
don't pay for laggy merc worlds just hop on catseye instead it's probably the best place if you wanna do the storylines etc
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>>2118557
did you run prochelp32 as admin then use it to open FantasyFisher ya? if so make sure on select process ur charname is selected, triple check everything try moving rod from wardrobe to inv, it should just work tm
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>>2118560
Don’t listen to this shitposter please. Catseye is an awful server
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>>2118582
Nigga please
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>>2118564
Yes i can select my character name and the rod and bait are in my inventory..
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>>2117732
100% you think that event was made for nothing?
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>>2118615
Hmmmmm hard pc restart and try again boot game then prochelp > fantasyfisher and just triple check you definitely have the right rod and paste
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>>2118623
> Wife angry cause he paid someone's rent
> Instant follow of every e-kitten streamer
> Creates entire meetup events for ekittens
> Buffs relics his e-sluts just happen to own
> Wife conveniently not attending the events he made
> He's on Zenith i.e. Blossom's server. Surprise.

Do the math anon.
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>>2118546
Return Home to Vana'diel Campaign:
Friday, December 19, 2025, at 12:00 a.m. (PST) to Monday, January 5, 2026, at 12:00 a.m.
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>>2118682
Soon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3W3J17ZHqg
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>>2118560
Catseye doesn't even have wotg missions
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>>2118794
Wings did
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I like playing story missions, collecting trusts, and fishing in my mog garden
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>>2118907
okay
catseye isn't wings if you weren't aware
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>>2118907
wings mobs also didnt have traits and pdif was absolutely fucked. joke server. the missions were probably jokes too
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>>2118925
Fishing on boats > fishing outside of battlefields > fishing on beaches > fishing in town > fishing in caves > fishing in mog garden
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>>2118975
Fox meet grapes.
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>>2115758
there are enough newfags on retail that you could probably make your own group and do all the content with similarly inexperienced idiots, but I think everyone is too shy to create a group and just hires mercs to avoid talking to people too much
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>>2118546
>>2118560
just join a low population retail server like Quetzalcoatl or Cerberus or whatever and play the whole story there
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>>2119019
Speak for yourself, I have Lu and Ebisu +1, so I am an authority on this topic. Comfy fishing is about both cozy locations and putting messages in global chat for non-fishers to read and not realize you’re pulling in rare shit.
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>>2118975
>>2119032
I've only played horizon but the comfiest place I ever fished in was alone at the edge of Beaucedine Glacier
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>>2119075
I also love edging.
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>>2119075
Down by Gargantua? Not a bad spot. That’s where we catch nerfed money dragons on retail.
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>>2118928
it was a massive downgrade for everyone involved.
>>2118939
Catseye is worse.
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>>2118637
Still not working, i gave up fuck this.
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>>2119228
run prochelp 32 as an administrator
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>>2119261
>>2119228
also, did you bother to update the eliteAPI.dll and the other one? it's necessary to do that otherwise it's not going to work, you can get them both on Atom0s's website.
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>>2119261
>>2119266
Yeah i did everything, i followed the steps in the forum.
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>>2119280
it's just weird because i did it all on a fresh install and it worked fine. I got fantasyfisher, prochelp 32, eliteapi.dll and elitemmo.api.dll, copy/pasted them into fantasyfisher's folder,
you do have to manually go into one of the files and add horizon-loader.exe in place of like wingsloader.exe or something like that, and that's probably why it's not working.
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>>2119360
i just reinstalled this, and it worked just fine
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I tried out the new HXUI and the new enemy cast bar doesn't even work for TP moves, so what was that big fuss over it being considered "cheating"?
And anyways, I don't want a "cast bar" but a cool little text flash of enemy moves like how old school final fantasys did it, any addon recommendations?
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i really had fun leveling on horizon… i just cant spend so much time on a computer like that anymore. and im not talking about how much grinding/progression there is. like every single event that involves other players means spending at least an hour in one sitting, just fucking why man… i wish 2 hours of leveling can be condensed to 40 minutes or something. so you arent expected to stick around for long. i like the multiplayer, the party mechanics, playing solo with trusts is fucking boring, but come on dude let me live my life
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>>2119615
Talking about being on the computer too much but on fucking 4chan? Fuck outta here
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Q for anons: returning to FFXI and looking at dualboxing on retail so I can actually use w/e non-meta jobs for w/e content I want and I'm not forced to play COR/GEO/WHM to get gear for the jobs I want to play.

Should I avoid Odin for this? On Asura and Bahamut it's all NA people and multiboxers seem super common, but I'm looking for a smaller server. I feel like the JP players will be uptight autistic wierdos about multiboxing being 'dishonorabu', and will ping their JP GM friend the second they see one char autofollowing another. Am I being paranoid or is there something to that?
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>>2119693
I started a new character on Odin and I see dual or quad boxes already in Windurst
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>>2119615
trash players turn 1 hour into 3 hours
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>>2119523
I recommend taking an online lesson in LUA and coding it yourself
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>>2119693
Odin was taken over by the white menace a long time ago pal



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