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Ragnarok Online news:
>Brazil's official RO server is closing after 22 years. Gravity likely consolidating around LATAM server
https://playragnarokonlinebr.com/novidades/comunicados/bro_service_closure.html

>With the recent Druid Class update, Gravity introduced an entirely new encryption to the GRF files that has made it impossible to datamine the client until encryption is solved
https://www.divine-pride.net/forum/index.php?/topic/10611-future-of-datamining/

>Gravity is ressurrecting Ragnarok Zero official servers
A global Zero style server should be released sometime in the second half of 2026

>Doddler's Ragnarok Rebuild project(Unity remake) is likely to announce a new test server in the coming months
https://x.com/RoDoddler/status/2038238281226469643
https://www.dodsrv.com/ragnarok/db/index.html (previous test server still up but receives no updates)
2-1 classes are almost done and many other developers have joined the project, helping or making their own branches.

Servers we play:
http://cc-ro.com/
Rates: 5x/5x/5x/10x - Pre-rebirth server where you collect every card in the game for permanent accountwide buffs. Has a seasonal (double rates) and Legacy (no-wipe) server.
Everyone in this thread is playing on seasonal.

https://rentry.org/ragnav
Ragna/v/ 3 - 7xEXP/3~10x Drop - Episode 15.2 Memory Record - Pre-renewal with rebalance changes and select bits of Renewal maps, monsters and items downported from Renewal. Running since August '24.
The server is no longer being updated but there are still people playing regularly.
About the next server >>2371982

https://www.uaro.net/
5x/5x/5x slow burn pre-renewal server some people jump back into during off seasons.

>Resources
ratemyserver.net
divine-pride.net
irowiki.org/classic/ (pre-re)
irowiki.org/wiki/ (renewal)
rocalc.com

Previous: >>2380036
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first for sex with men
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i'm a nigger suno
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SUPER SEX
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxr9XWogBQA
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Being ignored cause one person decided to falseflag you as the thread schizo is fun
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>>2435868
who?
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>>2435868
but im the thread schizo
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>>2435651
Is any of the newish mobile versions of RO worth playing or are they all cashgrab slop?
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>>2435885
Gravity is a respectable company and would never allow a mobile cashgrab
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>>2435887
this
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>>2435885
no, they aren't, ragnarok 3 probably won't be worth playing either, gravity is just not a very competent developer
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It's gonna be bio3
I can feel it
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>>2436287
Please be bio3, so i can get the trash and wait for the next one without the map being hogged
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Yeah let it be bio3 so people can be left out again
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Please don't be thana, i just started farming the pandas
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4leaf revival
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>she
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im back
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im gone
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im a nigger
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>>2435651
Rewrite code to allow slots on elemental weapons and that's it
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you guys suck
I did my duty
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bio tomorrow and the next day
get sleep and drink water
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>>2437608
I won't be on for it, may you get all your cards
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>>2437617
good riddance
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>>2437622
nigga shut up, I need the cards too but i'm unable to be on
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>>2437625
you would just leech anyway, good riddance
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>>2437631
i will be on and i will leech and no one can stop me
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>>2437631
the entire guild is leeching off like 2 people
shut up
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if you aren't an SG or Devo, you are leeching
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Don't fall for the very obvious bait please.
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Does ANYONE want a bunch of Angelic Set pieces? The SuNo gear. Otherwise, I'd just NPC them.
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>>2437705
don't think there's anybody else that wants to do it this season cause of no costume
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Losing the 10% drop on an enemy 40 times and counting is insane stuff
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>>2437219
You can rewrite the code all you like, you'll need a new client. Best you can do is allow those weapons to trigger additional bonuses.
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>>2438046
it's a good thing doddler is using unity then huh
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>>2438047
>unity
>good
yeah sure
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How did a leeching suno get 443 before half the fucking guild
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>>2438060
because the guild is overwhelmingly neet eurofags so he had his pick of parties while NA suffers
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>>2438060
>join parties
>do motds
>ask for help when he can't kill something
it's that shrimple
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>>2438060
They play the game. When are YOU going to play, anon?
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>>2438060
she does vore erp
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>she
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is it too late for a noob and casual player to play CCro now? is it half a ss already?
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>>2438053
what else? unity is as good as any
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>>2438212
are you too young to remember the unitypocalypse, it was a couple years ago
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>>2438208
No. You can even start last month and be good since boosted rates.
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>>2438231
really doesn't matter, it's not an official release anyway
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>>2438208
The later you join the easier it gets, with boosted rates and people offloading their giga pieces of gear for pennies or even free
Don't expect 435 or 443 cards by joining at the very end tho
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>>2438324
>the shit on the walls is fine, you don't plan on leaning anyway
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>>2438231
>we will have to pay 100% more for our copies of the doddlerRO
oh nyo my 0$
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>>2438329
yes man doddler will ahve to pay when you buy his illegal free downloadable spread everywhere copies!!, please stop being cattle in life and apply a sliver of critical thinking
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>>2438231
i remember that but thats non issue. we are already pirating Ragnarok, might as well pirate the engine while we are at it. who cares.
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>>2438326
what about 400? i heard 400 is a must cause u get one costume with it, right?
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gosh I fucking wish unity ro will be something big, something thats changes how we play ro privately.
Imagines if you could do all the shit you could in warcraft 3 custom maps, but ro instead. God I would love to pay money for that even
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>>2438349
Easy anon. We dont even have 2nd classes yet.
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>>2438347
400 is completely free you don't have to fight anything problematic
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starting to for for bio3 in 15 mins
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>>2438721
Aaaahhhh im late
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>>2438421
any handouts? I want to get 400 cards for the costume next ss
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>>2438349
That's the whole point of it. Doddler is quite forward thinking.
https://x.com/RoDoddler/status/2038160745968631836

You'll probably have to learn Unity but it's probably going to be very moddable.
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>>2438721
>starting bio in [NA work hours]
they weren't lying about it being dominated by eurofags huh
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>>2439230
next round is in 2 hours
be there dummy
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>>2439230
This is our turf now. Kiss the ring.
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>wait for bio3 motd
>the clowns swarm bio3
>everyone stepping on each others toes "in line"
>griefers fucking it up for everyone
And you still won't get your card.
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>>2439763
>griefers fucking it up for everyone
Some people had the audacity of calling me a griefer for just entering the valk map when it was MOTD
>Bro don't enter the map for 4 hours while we portal cheese it
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>do bio3 for 4 hours
>get 2 cards (out of the 6 i needed)
>check the bonus for the cards i got
>see that i actually got 4 out of 6
I wasnt even afk and was doing dps. I think i might have had a stroke.
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>>2439794
Monks deserve less rights
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>>2439763
Imagine 100 coining and not getting a card because you did it off motd hahahaha
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>>2439875
congrats lol
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>>2439922
Thanks, I like pleasant surprises!
Btw, do you know why I sometimes get a pop-up with mob-info when we fight the boss?
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>>2440008
schizo wizard skill
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>>2440008
Someone's using spiritual ring which autocasts sense. Either that or one of the mages is actually spamming that shit for some reason
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>>2440050
it shuts up the dumbass WHAT ELEMENT DO I USE?????? retards
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>WHAT ELEMENT DO I USE?????
Neutral
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>>2440193
I have neutral or holy, you can choose what flavor you want, other elements aren't real
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>>2440013
>>2440050
Ah, there you go. I thought my ragnarok is fucked up.
Apropos ragnarok being fucked up, my ragnarok is weird as in some item pictures are wrong. Like the crystal pumps for example have the picture of the magican hat or the blue gemstone and only the blue gemstone, not the others, have some weird food picture. Also some costumes are completely glitched .
Is there like an integrity check for your installation? I tried redownloading and patching as admin again but got the same thing.
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>>2440198
Sounds like an iteminfo outdated or fucked up, do a clean install
Or go to their d*scord and download the altered one with item id's and shit
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>>2440198
This is an utf encoding issue you have to disable on your computer then reinstall the game after.
I've had this before when enabling utf for some chink/jp games
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Word on the street is that the hosts of euRO are planning to buy another licence from gravity to host a legacy version of the game (subscription, 0 microtransactions).
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What a shitshow cliqueshow
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Today is thana, i can feel it
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I'm still playing on uaRO
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Yeah, I'm stupid. I'm also the world's smartest man and God's favorite princess. I cannot die, I am the best person you will ever meet, and the worst waiful. Now let us kiss, with tongue.
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>>2440804
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You guys really let people get 443 twice without cutting them off huh
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>>2440850
I already told you they don't care, if you aren't there, tough luck
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>>2440325
This might actually be the problem. I had mine on jap local for some time and after switching back things got fucky. Im gonna look into it. Thank you!
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>>2440008
I get it now! Didn't know enemies could change element.
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Alt-o holics won again, fuck the mains without 443
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I feel like 100 coins should be a guaranteed card
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>>2440871
bio stuff does multiple times, it's seriously annoying
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>>2440871
There are not that many mobs that can do it besides bio3 mvps, only thanatos/panda/joker/cenia/9 tails/megalodon/bloody Knight can change, and most of the time you will only notice it on joker/thana/panda.
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Learn to say no to alts you fucking retards, so many wasted coins for a fucking alt when some haven't finished
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>>2440944
Cenia fuckin looooooves to spawn in and change to wind and screw my wiz quick kill.
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>>2440951
Cenia changes are conditional made solely to fuck up with wizards.
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>>2440964
Forgot pic
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>10 gemini spawns per hour
>No matter the time, they are always all dead
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>>2440967
This is so specific that i can only think it was made out of spite.
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>Cliques you and says nothing so not to affirm guilt
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>>2440980
In episode 10 they gave every single mvp a reaction to being hit by fire wall. EVERY SINGLE ONE, even the mvps that are (nearly) immune to fire wall like Eddga and Garm. Some snigger faggot at Gravity was buck broken by high skill wizards being able to MVP so they systematically nerfed every wizard strategy into the ground and made monsters rudeport if a wizard so much as sneezed in the same map as them, meanwhile snipers get to ankle snare mvps from full to 0 without them ever lifting a finger.
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List the ones cliqued then if you're so great
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me
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him
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me too
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my alt
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>>2441114
Be but I'm close to 435 and can make peace with it cause bad, conflicting hours. Shit happens
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>>2441153
I'm aiming for 440 for the weight bonus.
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>>2441176
At that point just get 443 so you can choose what to unlock
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>>2441153
Give this man 443 cards!
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So is the motd random, or is the admin having a mighty giggle every day?
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>>2441200
It's random + MVP map
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MAKE THEM PLAY
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>>2441190
It's fine, holding people hostage is not my goal
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>>2441234
if you have coins and want to do something just post it and people will come, there is also more bio tomorrow
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>>2441200
Random
Every map has a 7 day cooldown
3 normal maps + 1 mvp map
Atroce maps are all counted as normal maps
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Guys I never visited the thread but Id like to say that Im a brazilian that plays on latam and profit around 500~100USD everymonth selling zeny and rare drops/cards.
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>>2441295
500~1000*
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credit card captured ro
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>>2441250
Won't be able to make it again, just putting it out there ahead of time which I why I say what I say
If I really wanted I'll have to farm like 400 coins just to specific summon on some day when i'm actually free
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>>2441295
Hell yeah brother.
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I think I won the shit RNG lottery with 72 Panzer Goblins so far
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>>2441518
no I have the worst RNG and the proof is that I was born
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sinX vs rogue which one is better in ccro guys?
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>>2441758
if it's costumeless, sin sucks ass
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>>2441784
its that bad? how about costumeless rogue
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is the 10 card coin mount one time use only? if true then it is a fuking SCAM man
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>>2441901
no i'm permanent but it's per character
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bro...I transitioned...is costumeless sinx that bad...
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Wyeeell, you have been warned ..
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>>2442212
I've seen them to really well auto attacking but it requires lots of gear
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>>2441912
>i'm permanent
Waifu 4 Laifu
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How strong is rogue double strafe compared to hunter's?
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>>2442338
Its literally the same fucking skill
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>>2442338
It's alright, mostly because you have to invest in rune combos to get the SP cost reduction that hunters get for mostly free, and less damage because of lower DEX
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yo any monk here? can somebody hit me with tripple attack?
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>>2442212
Its ok at the start because of high flee and easy crit with Katars. Crits are good because they ignore enemies DEF and Flee and get a 1.4 damage multiplier.
If you add endows or get slotted elemental katars you have some alright auto attack damage.
Wirh Poison Spore Card (very easy to get) + cloaking damage boost from Frilldora Card (also easy to get) you can do some very good early damage against low def enemies with Sonic Blow.
>>2442338
In general worse than Hunter. Hunter also has ankle snare.
>>2442563
I can, in like 10 minutes. Hope you got preserve from Seal card~
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>>2442573
im in prontera. just got my shit pushed in by the fking seal. Iam lv 68 yet the lil shit beat the shit out of me. ratemyserver said it was only a lv 60 mob
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>>2442579
Without the seal card and preserve, triple blow is lost the next time you get hit by a skill. You need that card mate.
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>>2442582
alright im on it. btw this is my gear how should I upgrade?
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>>2442579
>ratemyserver said it was only a lv 60 mob
Mob level in Ragnarok is mostly irrelevant. GTB and Eddga are level 60ish and you're sure as hell not taking them on either.
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>>2442588
Bro, get a pantie + shirt combo at least
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>>2442588
Kyaaaa, cutie anon stop
Get Scalpel or Platinum Shotel
Pantie + Undershirt
Any shield
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>>2442588
Super Beginner Tips:
Get Creamy Card to farm stuff way faster
Get Dark Priest Card from repeated card shop for drop bonus + daily boss
Get Pantie + Undershirt (im pretty sure someone is selling them dirt cheap)
Farm Desert Wolves for easy alright money
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alright, thank guys, time to push some seal's shit in
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>>2440325
Actually worked. Very nice!
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>>2442582
i got the seal now! are you free now?
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>>2442724
yeah. meet me in pvp.
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yooo this godzilla freako scammed me so bad guy.... I was farming in prontera sewer 4 and he came along and said do you want golden bug card, im gonna kill him for u. I agreed and tagged along. Dude he just pretended to fighting the bug and he got killed right away or teleport away I dont know but i got killed too.
then he kicked me out of the party right away. he was a hunter btw
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that nigga can't kill gtb lol
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my swordsman killed GTB lmao
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if you need bio cards get on
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how long till new MOTD?
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>>2443069
6 hours
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this is why alts should be gassed in the fucking smallest gas chamber
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>>2443338
What are you talking about
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alts are your gods, kneel pesants
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It's not an alt problem its a ** problem
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retard problem, more like.
you need your shit? get in. no excuses. go fuck yourself
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What is the best MVP solo class in CCro? Lord knight, I suppose, right? But unless you have a guild to back you up your knight aint beating anything for real. How can you farm 400 cards as a solo player?
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>>2443377
literally waiting for the person who was trying to refresh to do it to pick up the card and a nigga black as night comes in and starts picking shit up
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haha sorry i just really needed yet another sucsamad
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>>2443413
What for? Sucksama is trash
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>>2443391
it's beta star gladiator and beta crusader, without costumes it's still asura monk
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>>2443391
this season monk gets absolutely juiced by the eggs, end of the day you're still just portal asuraing shit and if you're true solo (no lex slave) then it's pretty mediocre
tkm and sader are best, sader can kill every single low tier mvp within seconds, no set up time, just run in and spam holy cross + potions
ninja is fine, smith can do a fair few of them but requires investment, wizard is always able to kill most mvps but takes a lot of kiting and time to do so
gunslinger is also broken, just run around with either walkattack or spam ground drift
It's harder to name the classes which CAN'T solo mvps on ccro
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>>2435713
Can't believe this bitch was my sexual awakening back then
Thanks RO
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>>2443490
Can you tell me about the investments required of those classes? What is cheapest
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>>2443611
>cheapest
Gunslinger by far but has a few requred pieces to even get started, dimik and venatu cards required first
>ninja
Next cheapest aside from the ice pick for certain mobs, also shinobi card required first
>sader
Decent amount of gear and rune investment needed but not too bad
>monk
expensive as fuck but retardedly strong if you do get there

>>2443391
>knight
hell no
>How can you farm 400 cards as a solo player?
See https://arch.b4k.dev/vm/thread/2262344/#2267165
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I would fuck that dumb BS slut 20 different ways while she was repairing my gear
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>>2443629
I didn't expect ninja to be that strong.
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>>2443712
What hours of Bio3 does to a motherfucker
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nobody ever wants to fuck me during bio3....
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starting the bio party now
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>>2443611
Sader's weapon is the easiest - get an ahlspiess and you're set. Extras to break helps but isn't needed, but having a +7 is a great goal to reach. Beyond that you really don't need much aside from standard "more flee, more defense" gears. Bathory armor and alicel armor will handle 90% of content you do. Wool+tidals works for them because it works on everyone. STR accessories.

TKM functions on a shoestring budget, you don't need a weapon to even work, but you eventually want a collection of slotted rideword books each with a zipper bear and racial damage cards. The merchant rune set gives you effectively double your SP pool, on top of tons of damage. You also need some strong defenses (shields especially) because you are inherently very flimsy. Both budget and geared are strong for their respective brackets.

Gunslinger needs to farm their BiS weapons which can be a pain in the ass. They also want orleans gloves, maybe ulles+odins blessings, and a fair chunk of time spent farming materials for bullets+spheres. They're not super hard to gear but they're pretty mediocre until they actually get their pieces.

Wizard is straightforward - stack INT, stack DEX. Endgame you can do a swap to cast time reduction gear but don't worry about it early. They -can- function off minimal gear but it's more of a skill check class if you do so. Endgame you hit instacast which feels nice, but ultimately you still get out-dps'ed by every other class. It does let you kite enemies without taking a hit though.

Monk requires multiple high end gear pieces to shine and by the time you get it all set up you're probably close to 443 anyways. Diablos rings, +9 lich's bone wand, variant shoes, diablos robe, it's an investment. Not recommended for noobs.

Smith first and foremost NEEDS alpha costume or else it sucks mega ass. Then you need to maintain a set of elemental weapons, plus a bunch of supplementary gear. It's like crusader but less "free", you have to actually commit to it.
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ERP PARTY IN BIO3 :DDDDD
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worst part about playing gunnigger is actually getting dimik card.
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>>2443862
So not recommended for starter. Better as the 2nd character, I suppose?
>>2443795
Thanks for the detailed guide, crusader remains the best starter in another server, again. I don't really like tkm, they just feel off to me. Likes a temu sinX.
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>>2443712
BS use case?
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>>2444411
based
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>>2443490
>>2443391
Every job can solo MVPs, but mostly the weak ones. Physical dmg dealing jobs that have no perfect hit, def ignore, or crit suck at soloing bosses with high def, high hit, and even Agi Up. This is why SGs are so busted. Casters MVPing is just based on element and mdef.

Knights suck solo because they need endow, high hit, and have no answer to Agi Up other than relying on perfect hit from card effects. They have good weapons for MVPing, at least. Ice Pick, Exorciser, Hunting Spear, Byeollungum, etc.
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>>2444503
>high hit, and have no answer to Agi Up other than relying on perfect hit from card effects.
Just crit bro
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>>2444544
thats a big sword
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>>2444503
>Casters MVPing is just based on element and mdef.
And flee, because a good amount of them has hell's judgment.
Solo knights can mvp just fine with BB too, the unfortunate part is that you are in melee range and melee sucks dick unless you are one of the blessed classes.
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>>2444549
Fuck you
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Who gave the kiritos permission to speak anyway?
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You guys suck
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You suck guys
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Guys you suck
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Suck you guys
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Guys suck you
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no suck you
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>>2444544
You need x2 Death Loop. Critical Wound auto-cast is kinda useless. It's fun to see the procs, though.
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satan nogg card
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>>2445423
maybe
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schizo thread
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>>2445405
cursed hand is +10 HIT though
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>>2445591
No need for hit just crit
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>>2444544
>96+23 str
it's so over
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>>2445761
just eat food
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>>2445780
*eats u*
what now
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>>2445786
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>>2444586
>>2444503
is ninja caster MVPing?
how? everytime I try them out they suck dick
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what are my stats looking like on an asura monk
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>>2445879
on ccro?
9x str for breakpoint
70-80ish int
50ish dex
rest vit
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>>2445965
yeah thanks
still got a little bit to 99
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>>2445861
they suck dick
Unless you are doing auto shuriken throw with a tank, then they are decent
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>>2446426
everything is decent if u have a meat tank tanking for u
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how hard it is to +10 a level 1 weapon?
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>>2446636
not too hard; should get one within 10~20 pieces
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*safety wall your asura last second*
Pfft everything was personal kid
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does CCro have leveling party? I miss the ice dungeon party back in ragnaV3
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>>2446764
i need the daily trains back but now everyone's hardcore
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wai the damage added from sword mastery is just flast damage????
only 40 damage???? wtf what a freaking scam
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>>2446877
masteries have always been a joke
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yoo where can I find egg's bonus stats database? couldnt find anything on the homepage, only card and runes
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>>2446998
Last thread second post
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>>2445405
>Critical Wound auto-cast is kinda useless
the 2x hits do happen frequently enough to be added dps, but they're mostly there for the HP% regen

>>2445761
Yeah I forgot to reset it after I swapped from a Ring[1] to the cursed hand
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Where I can find asura for hire? I need to kill evil snake lord. He is blocking my path to power.
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>>2447472
Cant sura punch Evil Snake Lord
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>>2447489
Really? Why?
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>>2447579
skill issue
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>>2447579
Study this.
>https://irowiki.org/classic/Element
and also this
>https://ratemyserver.net/index.php?mob_name=1418&page=mob_db&quick=1&f=1&mob_search=Search
Then come back here and tell me the problem with your plan to pass the test.
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>>2447613
Alright he takes zero damage from neutral. Who else can take down this wretched villain!!
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>>2447660
I can solo him but I also need the card too so we can just make an adventure of it I guess
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>>2447843
Im not even close to fighting his mobs lul.
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Any tips for kiritoing a wizard on ccro?
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Whats the meatiest tank on ccro? And when I said meaty tank I meant it. The 7 feet tall, skin as dark as a buffalo, muscles bulging, plate armor deformed over all the meat pressing. Two handed shield if possible, fuck damage, damage is for pussy. I want my tank to up in the MVP face, 24/7, fuck personal space, all them meaty muscles, pressing on their face.
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>>2447919
You want the 99 DEF Knight or Crusader.
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Sometimes I forget the absolutely dumb skill requirements for body relocation, what the fuck
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>>2448002
There's a reason the alpha costume gives it for frer
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>>2447875
fire ball is the best skill you have as mage and even as wizard it's top tier
heavens drive scales well on ccRO with all the card effects
learn to vertical fire wall, this is true of any server, vfw separates the bad wizards from the good ones
Try to get a stockpile of foods, lategame you really want to have bless/agi and +8-10 dex/int foods up, you can skip dex if you have full cast time gear
berserk pots are good when you get into raw dps situations like jt spamming on ktullanux
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>>2448274
Max int wizzie here. I hide behind the tank and spent 10s charging up spells and picked up the card when its done. Cast time is for pricks.
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>Fuck around with a tank assassin poison react build
>It's surprisingly solid
>It doesn't work against most mvp's because poison type is mega gimped
Big sad moment
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Wait a minute, ccro has mercenary?
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>>2448532
Yeah but i've seen next to nobody use one outside of the first week grind
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>>2448532
Yes, and they are very durable due to angeling card
But nobody wants to be farming rep for the lvl 10 ones lmao
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>>2448540
Can they tank mvp
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>>2448544
They can help you tank earthquake. Once.
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>>2448544
The lvl 10 spearman has 90 hard def and 30000 hp if you have 400 cards
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Lol just read the wiki and I think Ragnarok had the earliest attempt at MOBA with poring war lmao
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>>2448558
What the difference between spear mercenary and sword mercenary? Spear is the tank? Weird,, I guess, never thought of spear wielder as a tank
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>>2448591
Spear merc is a sader, and the Sword merc is a knight, that's why the spear is the tank one
https://irowiki.org/classic/Mercenary_System
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>>2448605
Isn't knight tankier than sader? Sader has like 24k hp while knight is around 45k right
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>>2448611
I mean by the game standards, knight has all of the damage skills and the sader has all of the defensive ones
Like knight has a single defensive skill and it still does damage.
The knight does have a bit more hp indeed, but not that much
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>>2448625
Maybe I played it wrong but when I was playing sader I didn't feel like Iam particularly tanky, at least not in the way a LK that just pop berserk and solo tank a MVP himself, I couldn't tank that
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>>2448640
If you swap the tanky gear to the sader he will be just as tank as the knight, with a bit less hp but with auto guard to compensate
But to be fair, everybody just makes a sader because of devotion, that's their call in life.
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meow
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>>2448910
RO3 looking great
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>>2448914
too many tabs
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>>2446877
That damage is affected by elemental advantage, multipliers, and applies on every hit, which means skills like Pierce benefit immensely from Spear Mastery. It's not that bad. It can potentially turn a two-shot from a one-shot.
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>>2449286
Well its more what else are you going to spend swordsman skill points on. Magnum Break? Provoke?
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>>2449306
Provoke is fairly useless, but Magnum Break 10 has a 200% accuracy bonus and goes from 120% atk to 300% atk. Again, not a bad skill. Just need to know what you want with your build.
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>>2449306
Endure is great for luring big game
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>provoke
>useless
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>>2449286
>multipliers
nope
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>>2449343
Name one scenario where it's useful with the easy access of Brocca, IP, Exorciser, Hunting Spear, etc in our server? Everyone and their mum has crit builds for DPS too. Provoke has low success at low levels and doesn't work on boss protocol either. Waste of sp. It's useless.
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>>2449327
I feel like if you need the accuracy bonus, its not going to be in an AOE situation and you'd use Bash or Pierce.

>>2449335
Endure only gains duration on level but you can still get one of the masteries + max endure easily (I do)

>>2449343
Provoke is only good when cast on myself for more damage
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>>2449354
>Endure only gains duration on level
Holy retard
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>>2449351
You're either spreading misinfo or you're just another dummy speaking without clue.
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>>2449356
Oh no a temporary 10 mdef, cmon man
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>>2449354
It gains MDEF on level, and you say as if getting more duration on the 10s buff isn't a good thing
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>>2449359
>10 hard mdef
>on top of any mdef you'd already have
>on top of your high vit and maybe int for soft mdef
The mdef on endure is super underrated especially on mvps like Ifrit and Randgris
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>>2449362
Any time the mdef would be helpful, you're getting hit so much that you lose the buff quickly at which point you're going to be popping endure reflexively to deal with castbars like on hibram or something in which case you'd want the max level but not because of the duration. Anyway I still get it because its definitely better than the other options magnum break and provoke like I said.
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>>2449378
Nah, MDEF helps in not getting a status on the way to the tanking spot
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>>2449389
????
The only one I know of that cares about mdef is stone curse and that shouldn't be happening on anything but beelzebub's second phase.
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>>2449400
And that it's still important, since the bee fucker has expulsion
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>/vm/ is so slow the last thread is still alive on page 10
lol
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>>2449589
eat shit janny we dgaf
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is there anything worse than a cliquenigger who needs validation from one specific person despite multiple saying a class is good?
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>>2450303
have you ever considered that their opinions aren't valuable?

i'm not even playing this season lole
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>>2450303
why dont you play suno?
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>>2450303
>is there anything worse than a cliquenigger
no
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>>2450303
yes
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>>2450303
which person?
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>>2450881
miku
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>>2450888
wtf miku did nothing wrong
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Miku's retarded. That guy says int doesn't matter for asura monks lmao.
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>>2450899
no way that's a real statement
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>>2450899
it's true
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>>2450899
pumping int isnt worth it
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yoo anyone has a bison horn for sale?
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Its not that Im a freak or something but I really want to fuck a miyabi doll
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>>2451026
ill throw a few in gs
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>>2451034
what guild? I dont have a guild
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>>2451039
that's too bad I guess, there's a few in the guild storage now for those that need them
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>>2451040
lmao
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>>2451040
based and thanks
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does rune effect stacks? likes when u stack 3 hunterfly runes, does taht give u 6% attack speed?
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>>2451056
try putting them in one at a time very slowly
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>>2451063
I cant I only have enough zenny for 1. IF they dont stack then I waste all those zenny for nothing
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>>2451065
you should do it for science
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Valkyrie prepared.
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>>2451079
>gear tier after the boss you're after
>r-r-ready g-guys
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how do wizzy and alcotard deal with only 50 job levels? how is that enough?
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>>2450909
Yeah, for you. Low IQ retard.
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>>2451056
Yes they do
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evil cock lord
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wizard or sage on ccro?
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>>2451209
do you want to have fun or do you want to be a support bitch
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>>2451219
which is which btw
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>>2451209
Wizard, there's no rebirth so Sage is no better than a basic mage offensively
It's literally just a support slave for large scale parties or a multiclient slave for endows
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>>2451125
Re-spec if you need something different, it's free* to do so
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can anyone here show me their wizard stat/item build?
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>check ccro rates
>base x10, job x10
Wait, was it like that before? I was going to ask if it was a good idea to jump on ccro since we're past 1 month.
Also what's the best way to grind/level as a dancer? I tried a huntard but I really, REALLY, don't like the class.
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>>2451355
Its 5x, 10x on 4 maps of the day
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>>2451365
So who's lying? You or Them?
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>>2451355
Double strafe geographer till job 50. Melting ny brain doing it. Iam mage btw.
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>>2451355
geographers --> mi gaos or ice titans till 84 and slurp exp by looking cute during mvp kills
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>>2451370
It was 5x when I registered 4 days ago. On the homepage btw
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>>2451372
At least today go to the atroce map and kill the plants there with double exp.
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>>2451370
If its 10x then map of the day is 20x. Certainly doesn't feel like 20x
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>>2451365
5x is legacy. Seasonal is doubled.
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>>2451355
did u register? jump in, you and me, and 1 more knigga/coonsadar and we are set!
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>Try out IP geffenia farming
>22m and 600 white herbs per hour
Damn, it's double what i make on the mavkas + white weed to fuel my tanks
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>>2451516
You should be making 20m every 30mins. What job?
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>>2451535
rogue, i didn't test with gum, i thought the rings drop rate was too close to guaranteed to matter
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>>2451541
No need to gum. idk how good Rogue steal is in this server for rings, but SG, Ninjas, Knights, Monks can plap Incus/Succs super fast. Very easy to full inventory.
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>>2451541
>>2451567
Gum is good, and practically mandatory if you're doing geffenia off MOTD. During motd it's still a slight zeny increase but not as much.
But if you're rogue then 80% of your zeny comes from chain stealing mastela fruits so gum isn't needed at all.
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>>2451567
I mean i kill fast as hell, about 1-2 seconds per kill, but then there's time to reaching the right map, unloading inventory and going out to reapply holy
I get about 120/200 inventory each trip, should i stay until it's completely full, even without endow?
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>>2451567
>>2451572
Go 1 dex with a Greatest General rune or feed yourself a spirit sphere for guaranteed hit and you'll steal multiple rings instead of mastelas, or go full crit.
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>>2451582
it's faster to remain in map until you're 200/200, park your priest in the corner you spawn in at and just resurrect her every time she dies
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>>2451587
Stealing multiple rings seems counter productive to rogue's game plan, if your plan is to ringmax then you should just play a class that nukes them like knight or crusader, each bowling bash is 2 guaranteed rings + the mastela/herb/blue potions. As rogue you want to get mastelas so you stay on map longer and don't have to constantly offload every 5 minutes
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>>2451594
Idk I figure if i'm going to get 2 or 3 autosteal procs per kill it might as well be a more valuable item for the same time spent on the kill.
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>>2451572
>>2451590
I'm going to test it out with gum but still going outside when holy runs out, maybe going from 65% to 100% makes a full inventory or close to each trip
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my snatching machine always steal 4 times per mob
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>>2451587
why 1 dex?
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>>2449359
Not appreciating MDEF is a suresign of a person who doesn't understand the game.
It's not just a free 10 MDEF, it's 10 MDEF on the class that has the easiest access to MDEF gear. A swordie can pump that value up to 70+ easily.
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>>2451632
Steal success chance scales with dex, so you want to fail the first ones that are bad items and try to steal the good ones that are all the way back in the drop list
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>>2451634
> on the class that has the easiest access to MDEF gear. A swordie can pump that value up to 70+ easily.
You're sacrificing a lot in general purpose to stack mdef that high when a proper elemental armor and garment card/rune solves a vast majority of that damage.
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>>2451647
For normal PvM purposes, you are correct. Most enemies only ever deal one type of elemental damage.
Unless you're fighting something that uses holy(basically only valk) to which there is no counter except Angeling, the main purpose of MDEF is for PvP and WoE, specially if the enemy has juiced up spellcasters.
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>>2451654
Well yeah if you want to specify PVP then everything goes out the window, most discussion and standard gear doesn't matter anymore.
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>>2451637
>>2451632
You only steal farm on Succ. You're wasting your time getting White Herbs on Incubus.
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>>2451654
Wtf are you even talking about? No one is stacking mdef since no content needs it, retard. Are you trying to pretend we're doing RWC where you stack mdef for status res? Lmao
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>>2449377
>The mdef on endure is super underrated especially on mvps like Ifrit and Randgris
Are you just spouting random shit? What magic attack will Ifrit use to kill you? Randy nukes with Holy Attribute Attack, which is RANGED PHYSICAL, not magic, retard. You're so dumb lmao. Mdef is useless vs those two MVPs since you will use Pasana on Ifrit and Angeling/Kaupe spam on Randgris.
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>>2451730
On vanilla ifrit will still tag you with random meteors and since you're not taking depleting the hit counter as long as you remain in counter attack+safety wall, the meteors are going to be a lot of the damage that goes to devo. It's not like it's the major threat that kills you but considering how you can press one button every 30 seconds to reduce more damage taken, it's fine.
Valk's slaves will use JT on you especially on modern rA installs where mobs just spam skills nonstop. It's not going to kill you or the devo in one hit but if you want to reduce damage it's something you can do beyond just mashing counter. Necessary? No. Useful as a button to press and thus underrated? Yes.
>just run angeling
good luck just having it on non-meme servers that aren't ccro, and on real servers your soul linkers are going to be too busy reapplying kaupe and kaizel to the party, not you
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>>2451722
>>2451730
Shut up. noobs.
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>>2451763
His Meteor Storm does no damage when you have Pasana, retard.
>your soul linkers are going to be too busy reapplying kaupe and kaizel to the party, not you
Yeah, because the dps staying alive is more important than the tank who will wipe the entire party if they die. You're so full of shit lmao. No one uses Auto Counter ever for tanking MVPs. That's a ccRO thing. Way to expose yourself.
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Imagine talking about shit you don't even know.
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>>2451785
have you ever fucking done ifrit on vanilla lmao
The reason you're putting soul linkers in party is to maximize party uptime and keep the backline safe, the tank (and priest) doesn't die to EQ regardless and he's not going to die as long as sw holds, if you can keep kaupe and kaizel that means you're not taking a large chunk of time between earthquakes trying to get people back up. the more time you have with your snipers/creos dpsing, the smoother it goes, and if you get your sage/wizard/backup SWer up that reduces the risk of SW dropping
>No one uses Auto Counter ever for tanking MVPs
holy shit the only one being exposed is you
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Literally you.
>SLs will prioritize the party, not the tank!
lmao
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Ive put my thinking hat on and maybe i shouldnt get the Super Novice Costume after all. But then i dont really know what to get.
I was thinking maybe Ninja A/B or Rogue A/B.
Ninja A to easily hit 190 ASPD once the eggs are gone. Ninja B because Double Dagger Shuriken might be ridiculous, but ill never ever get even close to 190 ASPD, especially without eggs. Also why does it only say you will get Left Hand Mastery and not Right Hand Mastery? Am i missing something?
Costume looks sick! HUGE PLUS.
I saw Rogue A bow auto attack in action and that was cool as fuck. Prob my fav build ive seen this season. What do you reproduce though? Some utility? Can you reproduce duple light from Priest A? And if you can, is it the good duple light with 300% atttack, or the 200% one?
Rogue B is kinda cool. I like auto attacks and i like stuff on top of my auto attacks. So, is Shadowspell good in ccro? And is it the good Shadowspell that gets you lvl 3-7 skills and works with bows, or the one before the balance update? Is it all a meme?
Female Costume looks sexy.
Female Star Glad and female Gunslinger outfits also look cool.
Are there any other cool auto attack costumes im missing?
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>>2451816
Beta SL
but some people will get really mad if you mention it
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>>2451785
>No one uses Auto Counter ever for tanking MVPs. That's a ccRO thing.
lol
lmao
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>>2451808
>have you ever fucking done ifrit on vanilla lmao
Have you? Because Valk literally dies in 30 seconds with a 12 man party or you lex fist her in 10 punches. No one uses auto counter, and you're retarded if you think that's a thing lmao. You have to face the target for it to work and you don't want to move away from SW, retard. Your job as a tank is literally to pull and afk in SW.
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>>2451832
this anon doesn't know you can change your direction with bangbang or by shift clicking and he's trying to lecture
k buddy
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Sometimes I wonder if this is a case of someone loudly exclaiming something wrong in order to bait people into telling him the correct answer instead of just asking the question.
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>>2451836
There's no @refresh in retail, lil pserver boy. You bring up vanilla but all you know is pserver shit. No one tanks with LK and thinks Auto Counter spam because it's a dog shit skill.
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just admit youre wrong retard
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I used autocounter in v3 just fine
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>>2451853
>the tank (and priest) doesn't die to EQ regardless and he's not going to die as long as sw holds
You're the retard here. How will the tank and priest survive EQ without Kaupe or GTB? How will the tank survive Valk even inside Safety Wall without Angeling if Kaupe is down? You can't survive it, retard. Shut the fuck up.
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Oh he's going all in with the bait now.
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In case you didn't know, and I'm sure you don't, Holy Attribute Attack bypasses SW and even GTB, so you need Kaupe or Angeling to survive tanking Randgris. Dumb dog.
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Yoo how the fk do u play wizzy... I stand there shitting myself for 20 second while the mobs are beating my ass off just to release some shitty AOE. how do u play wizzie I thought I was cool now iam upgraded but I still have to stick to fire wall and bolt likes a cvck
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>>2451822
Ive never played SL and have no idea what it does besides uhh .. linking..Gonna look into it. The female outfit looks cute.
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holy shit you aren't retarded, you are brain dead LMAO
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>>2451872
>Holy Attribute Attack bypasses SW
lol
>How will the tank and priest survive EQ without Kaupe or GTB
lol
this feels like an ai being prompted to make schizo posts
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>>2451874
You get carried by someone or farm clocks until lvl 90 for your gear pieces, then you just walk around casting GS into JT.
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Why do we even allow you niggers from playing a game you don't even know shit about.
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>>2451874
Fire wall + fire ball are your best friends until lategame
Isilla card lets you skip ahead, halving cast time lets you squeeze off spells safely without your fire wall depleting
Put storm gust 1 on your bar for an emergency get off me tool
Heavens drive is broken on ccRO, for how spammable it is its often better than sg/lov
Actually ccro in general is busted, isilla stacks additively with -cast time cards so if you get them you can reach nearly instacast with zero dex, granted a lot of them are mvp cards.
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>>2451919
heaven drive at level 1 or level 5?
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>>2451939
The real question is Quagmire 1 or 5?
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>>2451942
Is this a joke
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>>2451944
You are a joke
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>>2451939
1 is a good utility skill that you should always have on your bar regardless of server, it knocks enemies out of hide, quickly picks up aggro from long range, can be used to quickly stunlock enemies that are faster than the rest of the pack when you're mobbing, can rudeport wind enemies, just a ton of uses and you're always going to have it because quag is mandatory on every wizard build
HD 5 is a mixed bag on vanilla, it's fine but there's often better, but on ccro it's definitely worth putting into most builds (plus you can always respec). Lots of damage and with thief bug female (+ costume) you can spam it endlessly, in some cases it outdpses storm gust lategame for the few cases where you need that mid tier damage option (like juno guild dungeon)
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>>2451942
I think quagmire should be at level 1? at level 5 it last too long and if you have used all the quamire instance then you are left with nothing for 25 s.
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Don't know about you guys but I keep my quagmire at level 3 for a good middle ground of duration and status debuff.
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>>2451654
Here's your niche skill solution to the Angeling problem. It is not the "only" counter
https://irowiki.org/classic/B.S_Sacramenti

>>2451763
On Vanilla I just equip my +10 gears and all my p2w goodies, oh and also my GTB. Get on my level scrub
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>>2451957
Me at level 2. 10 seconds are usually enough. 15 feels a bit too long for me
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>>2451957
Mine is at level 5, because i'm not missing them often enough that i'm all 3 instances of it down and still needing more
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>>2451962
Running around with full +10s, mvp cards and tokens of siegfried, on top of double meg + brynhild champions doing 800k asuras? Truly RO as gravity intended.



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