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Mirror World Madness, the newly added event is almost over.
How did it go for you? Was it fun or way too challenging?

>Upcoming New Heroes Banner:
Eshean / Hofmann

Coming soon:

>SP Almeda
>New Covenant - Vidar
>Forbidden Battleground
>Guild Dimensional Expedition
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>>1390781
>How did it go for you? Was it fun or way too challenging?
I Did the bare minimum to snatch the controllers. I don't have enough strong characters to do the whole event.
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>>1390781
I finished it, was pretty fun to actually use other units. I liked the federation tent and the renewed focus on faction buffers, seeing as one can easily carry an entire team of scrubs into helping clear a stage. Honestly felt like I had too many supplies and that I should've spammed Cherie way earlier. The other thing is how boring Cherie spam makes it because Shadow Raid and AA is broken. Not sure how else they get old players to use weaker units though, since seeing as I had 400 supplies at the end, I could've started using Cherie for basically every stage way sooner.
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>>1390781
Completed all of it, but mixed feelings.

bad
>can't change equipment for used heroes
>can't change equipment for garrisoned heroes
>leveling the federation tent is a mistake since resets are free at level 1
>dungeon portion went on way too long, most of it was just absurdly high stats
>miss any dailies and you're fucked on ranking

good
>got to use other units
>final map was somewhat interesting
>fun to see how OP some heroes are with slight adjustments
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>>1390781
Anyanon knows how will the rewards be distributed in the Mirror World Madness?
As in how much do I need to get in the respective reward ranking tier
I want to know if I should do more floors of the dungeons for points or not

>>1391070
>can't change equipment for garrisoned heroes
Then you need to find where the heck the unit is since there's no way to check so you need to open every node and see if the character is there, remove him, change the equipment and then put him back
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>>1391652
You should be able to see your ranking inside Mirror World. Go to the Floating Island of Battle and click the Crown icon in the upper right.

You can see your ranking against other players, and your tier rewards for emblems. I think you need 120k to get the max reward for the nonranked rewards.
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Alright, I'll forgive you for cucking me out of Alustriel last time
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>>1390781
Couldn't even bother to do enough for the controllers. Despite that I did have a lot of work going on during half of the event to excuse it, it just was another round of poorly designed trash.
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>>1390781
I didn’t mind the event but the towers made it feel like a slog. Cut that down by half. Also streamline the resource deployments, some of the conditions are crazy.
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Is Imelda's new skin censored?
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Last day to summon Andriole
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>>1394155
If by censored you mean changed from other versions, no. CN used to have censored skins and they uncensored it for everyone else, but now I'm pretty sure they just port over the same ones.

>>1394694
I got Nemia instead and although I really want Andriole I can't afford it because of the few coming banners. Eshean/Isolde are probably more valuable for me than Andriole, but if I miss them I can't go all in either. Need to pull both Guyvers for collection, and then Imelda, and I was already wasted from anniv because I wanted Liana's swimsuit.
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(You) ARE saving up for her, right?
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>>1394707
I am now.
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I've never done dimensional expedition before. Any tips for preparation? This is my current top 12, don't know if I should build someone else just in case.
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>>1395050
Good to see Lina getting some love
The biggest problem with DE is players not actually doing the event so as long as you're proactive and your Guild is organized you can easily get by the event without any problems
The nodes are conquered by winning the points earned in the maps so the more you kill the more points earned and the node will go down faster
This way the usual strategy is killing every wave in one turn so the max number of enemies spawns (some nodes do not require such strategy because the enemies are fewer but buffed up so you'll have a few extra turns to kill them)
For example older players can carry the maps by killing most mobs with AoEs while new players bring one or two units to clean up the map the remaining mobs that survived the slaughter

Your account doesn't seem new but you also don't seem to have a maxed out cast of characters like most older players so you could take the role of support with Cherie for SingleTarget+ActAgain or Liana for ActAgain (or Elwin/Lina/LightOfGenesis even since they hit hard)
Does your Guild have some form of communication or organization for the DE?
I don't mean the ones that like to win the event in the first or second day and more like wanting to win the event at all
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>>1395085
>Does your Guild have some form of communication or organization for the DE?
Nope, even though the guild is full, the communication has been minimal. I think I'm kinda screwed but we'll see if they wake up for the event.

>Your account doesn't seem new but you also don't seem to have a maxed out cast
I started 6 months ago, so yeah, still a long way to go.
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>>1395050
Rainforce or Shelfaniel + Florentia is the lowest effort* strategy due to free stats from their talents. You can do SP Cherie/Epsilon/AA support when you unlock a lower enemy count map to rack up personal points.

*not dealing with enchant rng
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I did not realize Eshean is this year's act again support. Gonna enjoy seeing all the challenges balanced around her just like being a Sissi-let for years.
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>>1395050
Strong characters that can solo/duo maps like SP Cherie or Yulia are good to help conserve resources.

For AoE focused maps, Shelfaniel / Rainforce + Florentia.
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>>1395104
>>1395129
I see, thanks. I only have Shelfaniel from the mentioned, I'll see what other map nukers I can build.
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>>1394707
Are her shoes guns like Bayonetta?
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>>1395160
Seems to be really high heels to me.
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>>1394707
No I'm saving up for Guyver
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No clue if email codes are personalised but here
FGGYFH2T5
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I'm so screwed. Dropped like 250 and got 2x Hoffman, 1x Jugler, 1x Tsubame. Why is the game doing this to me? Now I might have to skip Isolde to make sure I get both Guyvers and Imelda. I knew rolling on new units was a mistake, should've just waited for 6 months and grabbed her later.
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>>1395251
>saving up for Gayver
ISHYGDDT
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This is fucking great
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>>1395687
Guyver is gigabased and the first six episodes of the OVA is a 10/10 perfect anime
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DBv1tz7ATY
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I still need to watch that live action movie with David Hayter. I'll probably get a few laughs.
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>>1395905
The Hayter one's a surprisingly legitimate B-Movie with some great props and effects, and manages to incorporate elements straight from the manga if you care about the source material

Now the other film with Mark Hamill, that is a trainwreck. Rapping zoanoid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7p1W3z-Rpsc
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>>1395603
I was prepared to spend money if I had to, didn’t want to miss out on Eshy, thankfully I managed to get her but it was after getting 3 Hofmanns
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anyone able to update the pc client of the game?
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>>1396033
No issues updating on PC here.
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>>1395934
>The Hayter one's a surprisingly legitimate B-Movie with some great props and effects
Sold. I'll have it ready for when the update comes and do a ovas+movie combo night.
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What did Cherie mean by this?
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>>1396115
Not sure, but she needs this as a coomer skin with the same pose.
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>>1396033
Same. Can't play on pc.
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>>1396033
>>1396335
It forgot my sign-in details but that was it, no problems with the actual client
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>>1396335
Sometimes you need to do an uninstall/reinstall. I've also had to let it repair itself a few times after an update. No clue why.

If all else fails you can try to emulate through Bluestacks.
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Done with the story, can't believe how much of a simp Matthew was until the end.
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I forgot JP finals happened last week, it was a weird one aHR0cHM6Ly9mb2N1cy5waXhlbGRyYWluLmNvbS91dXhyWTVWWlM=
Base 64 because spam. I won't blame anyone for ignoring it since file is big and desu I felt like I wasted time watching it with how boring and weird it was. I guess if you want to see Betty you can watch the last game but that one was the most boring.
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So characters used for DE don't refill the next day? Fuck newer players, right zlong? That is some fucking garbage, took all the will I had to do this piece of shit event.
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>>1398334
You get them after x amount of levels and there's like a weekly supply they'll give you.

It's not a very good event, and Mirror World completely overshadowed it. It's just pure shit grind. I max out my levels to get shop rewards, guild can barely clear it normally.
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>Two Hofmanns
>GitS dupe
>Werner fucking Dime dupe

Fucku youu
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So what's a good node to grind in DE so I can reach max level?
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>>1398861
If your guild completed it already, something like the final boss of Wolf's Den. It's like 3 waves, can be auto'd with Yulia/Cherie.

If you can't choose the area, then whatever is easiest on your current node.
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I wasn't expecting this, I'm quite tempted.
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>>1399460
Probably going to be her only non-whale outfit for a while, so it does seem worth it.
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Meet our new heroine, /lang/!

This is Tabres, the new character from the Tolivar's storyline.
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>>1399686
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>>1399687
Let's post some new skins too.

First one is for Adankelmo / Yani
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>>1399693
Here's a new skin for Oboro.
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>>1399694
Check out Macho Lotto skin for Polyal.
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>>1399695
Last one belongs to Rohga.
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>>1399695
Finally more hot pants!
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>>1399698
Can't say I was expecting a Terminator 2 reference
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So I got an item that allows me to get one OC from gen 1 or 2. Was thinking of picking Aka, Sissi White, Old Man Landius, or the Transcended One. Which one's great for PvE since that's all I focus on?
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>>1399686
Damn, she's a fine looking woman.

>>1399693
Another wonderful skin for her.
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>>1399841
I rolled Aka as a new player and as far as I can tell, she sucks ass out the box
She's also very cute so do rec
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>>1399841
>Sissi
guaranteed later this month if you have Rozalia & Emilia
>Old Landius
guaranteed in a rerun later down the line if you have Wiler & Shelfaniel, if you're considering availability he is the best pick
>Aka
Guaranteed in a month or so if you have Light of Genesis & Young Jessica
>Transcender
A very recent CN banner will guarantee him if you have Tourmilque and Adenkelmo.

Really, in terms of PvE usefulness, only Transcender is a failed abortion so any of the others can do -something-. That not being well, but something. Sissi is the best out of the bunch since she has Act Again, but she's high investment so you won't even use her for 3 months. And that assumes you already have 150 points for her unique. Granted, none of them are cheap to be usable, but she's definitely the worst of the bunch at this. At least her casting is basically free with that in mind.
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>>1399841
Old man Landius isn't great on his own, but he's the other faction buffer for mystic realm besides Gizarof. And unless you are running characters that need a summon to die to trigger something, Landius would be better. That's the only other thing I'd add to the other advice.
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>>1399862
>>1399886
>>1400046
Old man Landius it is. Thanks.
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>>1399694
Wow really cool Yoshimitsu looking skin. I hope it only costs vouchers. I have a bunch saved up.
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>>1399686
Mommy.
>>1399693
Mommy skin.
>>1399695
Holy.
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>>1399693
Sexy women god DAMN Yani!!!!
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>>1399460
Look at that shit eating grin. That's the look of a woman oneshotting your tank from across the map with meteors. Glad to see she's finally gotten a non-EOL skin, can't wait for her lotto skin.
>>1399698
Holy kino. Too bad Rohga's borderline unusable.
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>they removed Use Exp Potion and Use Enchant Scroll from the Dailies
Actual quality of life update
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Finally got Florentia after so many failed banners. Kinda crazy how it was more difficult to get her than any limited banner I threw crystals at. Pretty happy to finally get my third healer, now I need Tsubame for the bonds and I'm set (already got Licorice).
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>>1401948
Grats anon, I still use Flo a lot because that constant AA potential is just so good in PvE.
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>>1401889
I hadn’t noticed, I did see that the morning burger now stays so you can get 4 daily even if you long on in the evening. Good thing too I was using a ton, I had 300-400 at one point now I only have 170.
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I died like twice in Elshean trial haha this girl suck.
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>>1402734
Skill issue. Eshean can act again her allies, she can stun enemies then retreat and even buffs herself. Also, she's a cute 14-year old Princess.
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>>1402740
My goddess!!!!
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>>1402734
You on something if you say that she’s one of the best characters in the whole game.
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>>1402740
Tbf Luna is 15 so also those boobs and EoL skin doesn’t lie.
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>>1402740
>>1403025
Character age is weird in Langrisser.
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Late to finish grinding Slayers event and it drops this in my lap, nice. Also got the thunder lance and glory from weekly exchange and red dragon gave me Lostham's bow and the I assume shitty Valiant armor.
>>1402719
Damn I hope JP makes it easier to collect all the burgers. Once I got my new job I went from being able to get 3/4 a day which was usually more than enough down to 2/4 which isn't enough.
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I guess it's a valentine skin. Still not sure on if I want the Awakener one and now this one pops up. I wish skin vouchers weren't only in crazy expensive bundles.
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>>1404235
Thank god I have enough for both hot damn Yani!
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>>1404235
Finally a skin that makes Shelf's tits look big. Might actually spend some money instead of waiting around.
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I hate them
How do you even maneuver their Damage Reduction Command and Guard effectively?
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>>1406011
That map sucks, I would really like to know what the fuck they were smoking when they created it. However if you are trying to complete it with Strategic, good luck, according to the usual youtubers you have to use Forget and the funniest part is that there are only two strategic units that have Forget, Egbert and KoM and you will need Florentia 6* and also the new cavalry soldiers. I don't know if there is a different way, the starting position is so disadvantageous that there are few units that can break free easily.
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>>1406011
Passive disable. If you just use frontal assault, Elwin's 3c, Wettham, or forget if you really don't have anything else, you can ignore them completely. Most of Forbidden Battlegrounds relies heavily on passives but never have immunity unless it's the redeemer that makes units in 2 spaces debuff immune, or the healer that gives gospel to 2 units after taking action.

>>1406109
If we're not talking like min units/stats to clear, I felt like I did it pretty easily with Leon/Gren/Elmo/Azusa/Florentia.
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>>1406197
You have Gren, those who don't, either use Alte or Lanford and therefore you can't attack with a unit on the first turn. I used SP Ledin, SP Cherie, LoG, SP Almeda and Elma and I didn't have too many problems, too bad about the controllers but my Strategy faction isn't able to complete that map for now.
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>>1406197
I did a Strategic team clear with Gren, Adank, 4* Andriole, 4* Florentia and Egbert that's only there as a forget bot.

Andriole can be replaced with Leon, but if you don't have Gren, you probably need at least 5* Florentia.
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>>1406754
Strategic with SP Alte, SP Leon, Andriole, Adankelmo and Knight of Mistery. Needless to say, without Adankelmo and Andriole I would never have succeeded, Andriole is a broken unit.
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I'm quite short on crystals, which means I won't be able to get a heart of desire for a couple of months. I do however have enough controllers to upgrade one of the "free" SP characters, since the heart of desire for those are easy to get. Out of the bunch, which one ones are considered the most useful? Right now I'm thinking Freya or Grenier, but I have no clue about the rest.
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>>1406992
I'd consider Narm as the most versatile. Glory/princess/meteor unit that can move 5 spaces over terrain, has built in move again/roundabout, kiting/lockdown, a silence, and block buff. Having 3 factions is pretty nuts for an SR unit.

Freya is extremely meh unless you're trying to do the 10-3 Thor node or just need to build up Origins for Forbidden Battlegrounds. I haven't used/invested in her since that point.

SP Grenier is probably the best glory tank. If you're not already stacked to the gills on tanks, or don't have a maxed out Ledin he's a good choice.

SP Hein and Lewin are decent. I've found a bit more use out of Lewin since he's an offensive lancer in Origins and works well as a mixed unit. Hein's issue is all the other power crept mages. He isn't as versatile as LoG and the princess mages mog him as well.
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>>1406992
Narm: she is the best investment among the free SP, she has better stats, terrain mastery, five movement and is part of Glory, Princess and Meteor.
Freya: Better stats and neutral class and can use Redeemer. At least for me she's the tank and FB for origin, even though she doesn't need SP to do that.
Lewin: he's not bad but if you already have several origin units it's not worth it, however he reaches the levels of an SSR more or less.
Hein: He has some useful skills and is used in some strategies for endgame content but I wouldn't build him just for those.
Grenier: requires a lot of resources beyond those needed for the SP and despite his strong points he has no revive and his counterattack power depends on the number of buffs he has and the rng. This is one of the most expensive SPs since you have to unlock the archer class to be able to use bolt rangers and therefore you have to invest in archer soldiers.
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>>1406992
I think the most important thing about Narm is how useful she is for annoying challenges, both as a unit that obliterates flyers and someone that can move debuff and move again every turn. Grenier is also a lot of fun, but yeah, he requires a sickening amount of investment for someone that is basically only used against non-boss enemies in pve. Freya is good for those rare situations where you are forced to use fixed damage, but even then she's more of a luxury than anything else. Lewin's short legs kinda make him hard to use. And Hein isn't a bad unit, but as mentioned, there are way too many good mages in his factions to justify slotting him in most of the time.
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>>1406992
Narm is easily the best and Lewin is a kind of distant second. Narm deletes any non stat sponge flyers, especially if you do meteor for enchant. She can also help lock down annoying units or at least slow them down by herself. I'd say her only bad point is that she's squishy so you need to be careful if you can get countered. A less bad point is that she's weaker on indoor maps due to her soldiers.
I don't regret getting SP Grenier and Lewin since I do get to use them sometimes but I'd never recommend either of them, especially with how many good exclusive equitment there are and the fact that you need them for casting skills.
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>>1406997
>>1407010
>>1407024
>>1407056
Alright, Narm it is then. I have zero archer characters so that will be another plus. Thanks for the tips everyone.
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These new forbidden battleground maps feel harder than ever, but I guess that is kind of the point. Hate these fucking zealots that swap between physical and magic damage weakness and always revive when an ally is near by.
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Really want that new dragon girl that's coming soon. I dig her design.
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Man, gates of fate needs a permanent increase from 9 to 18. The game is 5+ years old already with a bazillion characters, it shouldn't be this much of a slog.
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>>1412609
You forgot removing the retarded "once a day" limit for individual runs.
Either limit total daily runs or a run per shard, stop doing both it was never justifiable and it's worse now.
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>>1410672
The only one that was kind of hard was the level 70 empire/strategic one, and that's mostly because of how fucking bad the positioning is. If you weren't literally walled in it wouldn't be so bad.

My strategic team sucks and won't be doing it this go round. The rest weren't too bad.
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>>1412903
Stamina cost too, I still have no idea why they cost stamina to begin with. They could also do away with costs on the older map contents.
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>>1412609
I understand why they don't increase the limit, after all it's a feature for low spenders and f2p players, not for whales who don't even need it. Luckily it exists, other more famous games that earn much more than Zlong (genshin) don't have it and the only solution is to pay. Considering the cost in stamina it would be better if they increased the number of shards rather than the number of gof. They could increase the number of shards based on the "age" of the unit, it is absurd to take about three months for a unit like Rachel, by now the new units are already broken at 4* and the 6* are most of the time stats or decrease in CD unlike in the past. However, it seems to me that they have increased the number of times there are 18 gof, about every month on and off, and in a few updates there should be 27 gof.
>>1412935
Unfortunately that map is a units check, they put a lot of effort into making it difficult, in comparison the other three lv 70 are easy. I don't know what Strat units you have but sometimes what seems to suck might be useful.
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>>1413169
I think this was discussed at length in older threads, and not much has changed from 3 years or 5 years. The problem is still that low spenders still make a good chunk of money for them because they sell packs+privilege instead of only buying currency outright being the main form of income. Pretty much every modern game does this because it facilitates lower amounts of spending but doesn't discourage whales.

The actual point is that the release schedule of units hasn't changed, and current players are obviously bigger sources of income than new players. They release 2 units a month, which means that a f2p player, if playing from day 1 and hasn't missed a day, will have 50% of the cast at 6* minus 9 or so units. Decreased again for dead months, and sometimes solo rate ups if they don't come with a banner like Wettham which seems to be the case starting from AO. In addition, each 2 weeks of 18 gof is +126 shards, and with the wishing machine maxed we get around +20 every patch. The way a player gets behind, is solely by getting a dupe of a unit they have at 6*, mitigated somewhat now with spacetime essence or not playing. This is why they run extra gof as events instead, because each patch cycle naturally puts each player closer to 50% and the extra gof is a more natural way to put that up to like 60% or 65%, rather than something like 11 gof. It's also why we will never have permanent 18 gof.

To take my own f2p account as an example, if we had permanent 18 gof I would max out every unit in about a year from now. We average ~120 pull a cycle, which is slightly more than pity, but I stockpile for collabs pretty hard. I do have every single collab character, but I'm around ~13 units behind on the collection. It would be less if I didn't prioritize Andriole/Eshean this time around, and had to skip out on Joa, Amadeus, and likely Tatalia. You would almost kill off the low spender income entirely.
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>>1413239
(Cont.) The actual solution for new players is the same as it always has been. Just dump them with progression rewards. There's no reason adventurer aid is only a month long and it just feeds into FOMO. Just give each new player like 200 of each SSR Aniki material and 1000 SSR books when they hit 70. Space out 500 universal SSR shards or more across leveling and around the mid game if you want to keep the early game still slightly difficult. It doesn't even hurt their income because they're not actual pulls. I don't know why they insist on making new players go through as much of an Aniki grind when we have WoTL now too. 4 mats a week from Floating Island isn't nearly enough.
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In my opinion zlong could devise a crafting system that allows you to use a certain number of low level materials to obtain higher level materials, considering that with aniki farming you earn more SR materials than SSR, new players would take less time to reach 70/70/40 which is still valid for tackling endgame content.

If there's one thing I don't like in gachas it's that in many cases an obsolete unit/character costs the same as a new unit. In other markets what is old drops in price, paying Gizarof the same as Isolde is a "scam", which is why I think the least that zlong could do is to immediately release the bonds for old units (lang I-V and Mobile Act 1 at least) and maybe instead of having them at 3* you can get them at 4* or with a lower pity. Of course we are in a utopian field, we all know that zlong will never change.
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I think I'm gonna skip the dragon lady this time around. I need to focus more on destiny to expand the core team. I got ass fucked by these double banners many times already.
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>>1414240
When I started, one of the pieces of advice given was to ignore the new banners and rate-ups and focus on the destiny, unfortunately since then the destiny has gotten worse due to the increase in units. However if you are not interested in pvp the only reason to have Isolde is the FB, there are stronger and easier units to use than her if you are only interested in pve.
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>>1414365
This, Jayce will end up a much more useful unit for PvE with their predictable challenge creep, so Isolde will be useful regardless but you can put off both for now.
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>>1413169
I ended up coming back and getting this done. I had been using Altemuller as my buffer and got rid of him and found Strat units that were empire and used Leon as a buffer attacker. It was slow, but it worked.

Vargas/Hilda/Florentia/Leon/Imelda ended up being the solution for my exceptionally shitty strat team. Two tanks to spread out the damage and 1.5 healers did the trick.
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Has the auto arena meta had any changes? The only thing I did to mine a long time ago was swap Ares out for Wettham since he's more flexible and his AI isn't as retarded. I'd imagine Polyal is amazing if the defender leaves the middle back square open, though I only really see that from people who have free win comps. Lina seems just okay, especially since there's potential that she gets in the way of other characters. I feel like aside from her there hasn't really been much in the way of aoe characters that won't get cucked because of AI.
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I just realized Jayce has teleport because he's also Jessica, but it reminded me of how ridiculous AO is as the only character unrelated to Jessica to also have teleport. They should've given her a nerfed version like all the others instead, or just not given her one.
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On my last 10 summon, fucking finally. Thankfully the next update has more optional characters instead of these giga broken ones.
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>1416863
>the next update has more optional characters
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>>1416904
Patty is just for AOE memes, and only really saw widespread use when Icemelda dropped.
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>400 summons
>no Isolde
>3 Jayces
AAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYY
MY FACTION BUFFER
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>>1417862
Your trade in?
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Isolde is a good unit but doesn't seem like the best FB in pve. The special effect is activated for melee attacks and most, if not all, Mythic units have ranged attacks or ranged attacks that ignore melee penalties, basically +15% damage is lost. Since I don't own any other Mythic FB, maybe I could be wrong, but I think that ranged attacks without any penalties are not boosted by the FB, which given the pve stats checks is a substantial loss.

However Isolde is an excellent unit, if I really have to find a flaw in her it is that she does not have a FB 2c like other units and given the faction she is part of, for players who have not yet unlocked awakening she could be a difficult unit to use.
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Is Jayce any good? I got him and Isolde at 3 stars atm.
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>>1417972
She doesn't need a 2C FB it saves using all her slot on her unique skills also not hard to regain back. Her only real flaw is she has not revival effect could be in her inevitable exclusive equipment but time will tell.
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>>1418025
no he is worse than young jessica
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>>1418137
Don't trust this anon, he is retarded.
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>1418431
>being nice to humblebraggers
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No point in raising Christiane's attack bond, right?
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>>1418500
The days of Omega PVP are long dead, so yeah unless you want that 100%.
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>>1418025
It depends on what mage units you have and if you do PvP. Jayce is primarily a PvP unit with the ability to annoy as well as being a decent DPS and who is at his best in maps with defensive terrain.

Considering his factions, in PvE, Adankelmo, Tourmilque, Sagani, Ashemar, LoG, Gustaf, Mariandel, Kaguya, Leo Beck and AO are more useful and overall stronger since they can have the 4 ranges in some way and have buffs or useful skills to help the team. Jayce, apart from teleport which is not worth using, only has ST and AoE attack skills, his unique AoE requires enemies to be positioned close together and the effect only lasts one turn and his 3c can prevent the target from acting the next turn.

If you have GoF available I would upgrade him to at least 4*. I usually upgrade all the units that I think could be useful to at least 5* even if I never use them... like Lovina and Saintess.

>>1418137
YJess needs EE and a map that doesn't require her to move continuously otherwise she becomes dead weight and since her talent requires her to be as far away from the target as possible even using scepter of divinity doesn't solve the problem. She is now only useful as a bond unlocker and for some particular strategies for endgame content.

>>1418500
If you have resources to "waste" upgrade it since the more advanced stages of Mirror world require units with all bonds upgraded and above a certain power level.
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>>1418533
>Leo Beck
>Gustaf
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>>1418500
Conversion tank attack bonds are more of a "I have more than enough resources so maxing this won't mean anything" kind of thing. Also if mirror world is something you're capable of clearing there's that like >>1418533 noted.
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>>1418509
>>1418533
>>1418590
Completely forgot about the mirror world and it's requirements. I'll keep it in mind when that time comes again, for now I'd better spend the resources elsewhere, still building a lot of characters on the side and those ssr keys drain fast.
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Redpill me on Guyver
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Finally got one
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Did you guys clear this shit? It's so frustrating I think I'm just going to skip it.
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>>1420476
Oh that map event? I ended up just finding a clear on youtube.
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>>1420476
Yeah, quite annoying. I think I missed one of the achievements and didn’t bother going back to do it a second time. The map itself is easy but it just takes so long. The important thing to remember is letting Chris get the early kills and to save your dispels for Bozel’s aoe.
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>>1418881
Innocent highschool lad stumbles on some stolen tech that tentacle rapes him into a bioweapon, and puts him top of the local evil megacorp's shitlist
Suffering ensues

It's basically grimdark Kamen Rider if you're familiar with that
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Well, I finally got Isolde. Being without tickets and crystals, it was probably the most intense grind I've done in any game. Basically powered through the entire of story chapter 2 and like 6 time rift stories on both normal and elite. It was a massive gamble being f2p and all but very luckly I was able to get one of each (pity on both but still). On the bright side, I'm almost there with everyone else in terms of story progress but I'm never doing that shit again.
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>>1421432
I too am very far behind in part 2. I wish they would just remove the stamina cost for part 1 and 2 everything at this point, maybe expect the challenge battles, because there aren't enough burgers. The extra stages in the normal rifts are also full of shit but those are guaranteed to not get removed or stamina cut.
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Thread is going so slow, I might as well post the new heroes.

This is Celica, mostly known as Elisse's best friend and an old acquaintance of Yani.
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Here's Ymir, another new character from the Tolivar's storyline.
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>>1399686
This is Tabres's EoL skin, btw.
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>>1421559
And here is EoL for Tyrantel.
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>>1421557
>>1421558
This is Fraxinus the Gatekeeper now called Ymir, and he is Elisse's brother. It seems Zlong isn't done with Gelpais yet as both new units are from there.
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>>1421559
Now those are some wonderful breasts.

>>1421568
Dammit. Shoulda listened.
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>>1421568
My waifu gorgeous!!
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>>1421557
Looks like the same pose as Julian
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Would sure be nice to start getting characters from the actual console Langrisser games again. L1 only has like 3 SSRs, plenty of units from the other games too.
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>>1422486
It's really odd how they're holding back from releasing characters from the older games. Is it money reasons?
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>>1422487
Yes. The only remaining popular characters already have a portrait so they won't get a glowup and/or are villains with barely any characterization to incentivize people who like them to pull.

The best you're going to get are the LLRs like Imelda for the most popular SRs. They're also unlikely to ever do another SR SP for free. Ricky/McClaine were already the most popular of the leftovers and that banner didn't even do well compared to OCs.
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>>1422487
If you believe the old assumption that they lost the rights to the original characters that's technically a money reason I guess.
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Pretty cool looking ham there.
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Transcender pattern skill when!?
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I'm a genius! It only took me 7 months to figure out how to use those damn Sissy White 50% bonus meals.
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>>1423502
I wish I could even make those salads, mana pools don't generate enough to make them unless i never collect resources and skip the forge or be a retard and skip stamina salads.
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brenda you dumb bitch let me summon you
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>>1424102
I finally managed to get Bozel. Now I can complete my Licorice.
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>>1424110
nice, always a good feeling when things start to come together. didn't get brenda, but a copy of old zerida will work since I'm trying to flesh out meteor a bit
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I wish they put as much effort into the normal events as the anniversary and Reichenbach ones. Actually looking forward to challenge 5 which is undoubtedly going to be beating up Gendrasil again with a Wiler+Giz npc.
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How annoying that for every challenge you always need Rozenciel (I have her), it seems like the developers can't come up with challenges that don't always require massive reactive healing and immunity. I'd like to use other units instead of the usual ones.
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Man, the ways of the law 70-75 for anything related to the flyer castings is filtering me really hard. Autokrato or whathever with his 6 range 3c, bitch ass Reinforce with his fixed damage, terminator Rozalia with her infinte defense/healing, royal protectors running all over the maps hitting at range, etc.

With all the other castings it was easy because I could disguise a mage into another class and nuke them from afar. But no options here, get your mid build flyers and hope for the best. Seriously considering using a runestone in Florentia so I can disguise her as a lancer. Need healing bad.
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Are you using Cherie with Unicorns? Might also want to SP Narm to deal with the Fliers on the light armor/helm maps. Those 2 and 3 bags could probably do all the 70s. For the Axe 70 you can bring Vargas to deal with the cav and have Cherie clean up the Orcs. If you can't deal with Rainforce entirely, just remember he won't use his aoe if he can't hit more than 2 people, so position after wiping the mobs and use Cherie 2c to push him in then box him.
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>>1428741
Just got Axe 70, that Rainforce tip about his aoe helped a lot, thanks. Brought Freya since I don't have Vargas built, she did good cleaning the cavalry.

My Narm is in the process of becoming SP, have everything maxed for her, just waiting on the runestones. She's probably gonna be a key player on the 75 ones. Also have Isolde with all her bonds, but at 3 stars at the moment she can only watch from the bench.
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I have the change for a guranteed Yulia. How important is she these days? I remember when I played the game 3 years ago everyone was crazy about her. Is she outclassed now?
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>>1429062
Sort of? She still does her own thing best and provides some healing which is useful, but her main job of sitting in front of a boss replacing and tank and hitting it over and over again healing herself just isn't used in challenge stages much anymore because that's just too simple. She's also only 3 mobility which hampers her a bit. I still use her in certain circumstances where I need more healing than Rozalia can provide, and used her for a few Ragnarok stages because her revives come in handy for tanking one shots without losing out on dps. You will similarly rarely see Elwin in his non-SP form except in situations where you need to duel the boss.
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>>1429139
Mmm, I might skip her then until her next destiny. Don't really need any more boss stompers (at least for now), Bernie + Tiaris has been a great combo for that.
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>>1429062
the point is not whether she is important but whether it is worth investing time and resources. Remember that Yulia needs 6* and if you don't have free GoF for her you might as well not summon and save vouchers, especially if you don't have the atk bond.
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>>1428741
You probably can't emulate this but for axe 70 I auto it with SP Cherie(angels), Jugler(he just heals), Luna(mech dragons), Brenda(mech dragons) and Wehttam(werewolves). I've never watched it go so I have no idea what happens.
>>1429062
Are you a sword fucker?
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just began playing this like 2 days ago.
I can't find anything regarding the bonds/gifting, since the game says different characters prefer different things. Does that affect the actual mechanics (ie how many points they get) or is it just about what text they say or some shit?
Also, Egbert was my favorite character of der langrisser, is he playable/useful in this? is he just cartoonishly evil or does he have the strange nuance he had in the old game?
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>>1429664
also, should I spend resources on Laird? I like the character but it's only "R"
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>>1429685
Just got Hein, Tiaris and Sonya
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>>1429664
>>1429685
>>1430038
The prefered gifts give you a some more xp than regular but that's it, nothing hidden about it.

You're gonna get flooded with good characters quite easily, there is no point about upgrading an R character who's gonna be outclassed instantly. But if you like him go ahead. Keep in mind that spreading resources across all your characters is a bad idea, you won't be powerfull enough to tackle the content. Usually, at the early stages of the game, people focus on 6-8 characters exclusively until they reach lvl70, so they are as strong as they can be to clear stuff.

There are a lot of recommendations for starting players, but probably the most important is just focus on getting your base party (tank, healer, 3 dps). There are a ton of youtube videos, dating back to 4 years ago, which still apply today (getting Ledin, Tiaris, Leon, etc). Take it slow and don't pull for random characters unless you really want them.
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>>1430038
Great pull, Tiaris is the one of the best healer of the game, probably still the best PvE healer. You put her next to the tank and it will heal him after every attack he gets. There is a caveat with Tiaris though, in order for her to talent heal to activate 100% of the time, she needs to be 6*. So, as soon as you unlock the "gates of fate" to farm her shards (so she can upgrade in rank), start doing them as soon as possible. Getting her to 6* should be a priority to make her consistant.
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>>1429664
Yes, certain characters get more bond points if you give them an item they like. For example, Hein gets 1.5x points from the Cherie figure. If you give them the diamonds though, everyone gets 1.5x, so everything other than that is really just flavor as the diamonds are the main way of leveling bond since you just get more of them.

The time rifts contain the mainline stories in shortened form. As for the main mobile story, Act 1 has mostly mobile original allies vs Bozel and the gang. Act 2 is actually a continuation of the mainline stories. Act 3 is just them trying to copy Genshin with original characters alongside mixing in Tensei's story. Almost all Lang 2 characters are playable as it was the most popular.

>>1429685
SRs mostly have a niche and are still useful. Unfortunately the same can't be said of Rs and especially Laird. You can count the useful ones on one hand. Lester for Flying Chain Hook/Move again, Lewin has an SP form, Jessica has teleport, and Leticia can give +2 movement with sprint. Still, I would not recommend upgrading SRs over SSRs just because the latter are far more efficient for general progression with few exceptions and Egbert is not one of them. Egbert specializes in aoe fixed damage, which is mostly dead except in PvP, but the PvP meta has outclassed him so dramatically that the only people using him do it because they like the character or are running Dark as a faction.
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So now that they're all out, how are the latest batch of soldiers? Aquatic, archer, assassin, and demon seem to be duds of varying levels. The others only really have an issue of hero coverage.
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Got my 7 wins with only 1 more loss before reset left, HUZZAH!!!

Would go for 10 but that would take forever.
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>>1429664
>Egbert
gay for Bernhardt, but has autism and mommy issues
>Laird
gay for Leon, possibly friendzoned
>Hein
gay for Elwin, possibly trans
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>>1429664
You go through abridged versions of each game's routes in this so while he's a bit staple evil magician man in the first route, you get the empire route next where you see a bit more of him and the rest
Though a lot of the meat for any character fanservice comes from the individual character bond missions you unlock, and Egbert gets a few
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Dank, jp got the burger change. Now if I don't sleep in on weekends I can grab all 4 burgers every day. Also we just got too much shit in general, I think everything but the new equipment from Eshean patch got squeezed in too. Autoing casting 75 seems really hard.
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I assume two nodes unlock per week and the last week the final node unlocks. Also how filled out can the camp get? I assume they don't let you just fill the entire thing out.
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>>1435082
What do you mean filled out?

Keep your federation tent at level 1 until the end so you can do free resets, invest in SP Cherie + Shadow Raid upgrade, and profit from there.

For troops work towards the mage range upgrade.

Cherie with a buffer like Zerida can solo/duo some of the harder content and save resources. And don't miss your Mirror World dailies otherwise you will always finish below those with higher points, regardless of when you finish.
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>>1435335
Filled out as in how many nodes you can grab total. I am doing the level 1 camp thing since that seemed to be the best advice on things to do.
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Can’t believe how long I’ve stayed with this game. And I still log in every day, will probably continue to do so until the one sad and tragic day the servers go down.

Only gacha I’ve been ride or die with so far.
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>>1435547
Iirc the maximum is something like 72. You can probably start upgrading it on the second last set of stages as there's feats that require it, and if you're planning on ranking every second counts.
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Is this Reddit chart still relevant regarding what to spend currency in?
I'm level 33, I have a bunch of stockpiled trinity crystals and burgers and I'm not sure what would be a wise use for them.
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>>1436161
Honor points, yes.
Friendship points, yes.
Skin vouchers, it depends. If you buy them at a discount from the Wednesday/Sunday merchant, yes, otherwise the only ways to get them is to buy them with money or as rewards sometimes at events.
Mithril, yes.
Orichalcum, it depends on what equipment you have, and for some time you can use SR equipment without problems and it is also easier to upgrade.
Gold, it depends on what you need to upgrade. I guess this guide is old and now there are different ways to get upgrade materials that don't require the use of gold. Gold is only used to upgrade equipment, bonds, soldiers and casting, ignores the black market.
Trinity Crystals, it depends on whether you are f2p or dolphin or whale and what goals you have. Many still recommend using crystals to refill your stamina but in the end what changes is the speed at which your account progresses and now, as already mentioned, there are other ways to obtain upgrade materials. As I see it, it is better to use crystals only for summoning, especially now that it is more difficult to obtain units and their respective bonds due to the high number of units released.
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>>1436244
Thanks!
What about burgers/stamina? Should I save it for something specific, use it for story progress, or what's most optimal?
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>>1435819
What an endurance man, congrats. I wish I started earlier, as an old man I avoided phone games like a plague, but somehow found this "sequel" to Warsong that I remember playing as a kid. Never bothered to play any other phone game though, one is more than enough.
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>>1435819
I am about 3 days off now. When I hit the 1500 whatever milestone, people told me I hadn't missed a day. So I took that opportunity to start missing days. That cost me my last chance at rolling Isolde, too.
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>PC version: Now the right mouse button is equivalent to the ESC key function.
Best update ever, thank fuck.
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>>1436274
Don't grind troops unless you're near max level and getting the SSR materials. That's the bottle neck for all players.

Focus on story & rifts to get crystals/vouchers to grow your roster and bounce between story, rifts, and training progress. Always be trying to progress to your next level aniki/dragon and other such secret realm training. Once you're stuck in all of those, then you can focus on some grinding if you want, but the beauty of early game Langrisser is there is normally content you can hop between.

All those stocked up burgers will come in handy when you're max level and doing training or event grinding.
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Is a 3* Florentia good as a sole support if I have Lanford to give her an fb? I'm using a princess team atm, but got both Isolde and Jayce from the previous banner and realize I can dip a bit into a mythical team with Yulia as the 3rd mythic. Basically Isolde and Yulia frontlines, Jayce does his thing while Lanford buffs and guards Florentia who will support the vanguard. Good idea y/n?
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>>1436868
She's not as good as other healers in raw numbers, but she will work fine if you're doing generic content where you're killing mooks and getting extra turns. But as far as topping off teams from large attacks or clearing debuffs, she's weaker than most healers.

Also, I don't see any guard in Lanford's kit, but I do think he gets some tank abilities with his SP class upcoming.

If you're trying to run Mythic, it might be better to focus on getting Bernhardt or Jugler as a tank. Neither are the best at it, but they at least have skills for it and Bernhardt is bulky for a damage dealer, gets access to dragon class, and has access to werewolves. That also opens you up to Rozenciel, Sophia, or Almeda for your healers.
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90 on pity so tomorrow I take Yulia from destiny or gamble on the generic banner. Decisions...
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>>1436868
Flo needs 6* (and maybe EE too) so it's quite an investment, using her at 5* makes it difficult to follow various strategies. Mine is 5* without EE and that's not enough most of the time. It should also be added that Flo is only a decent healer and most of the time it is better to use an off-faction healer for strategic, except in forbidden battleground for obvious reasons.

If you want to build a mythic faction, the best tank is Lightbringer and in general using a mixed team in content where you need FB is not a very good choice, unless you have to. Lanford is not a tank, he is a DPS buffer, the best f2p tank for strategic is Vargas, Lanford only becomes a tank with the SP in a few months and even in that case it is better to build other SP first rather than him.

However, a lot depends on what stage your account is at and what units you have, more than one faction becomes necessary only after you unlock Covenant.
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I got two Gunns and I’m not afraid to use em!
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>>1436971
>>1437268
Oh, by guard, I meant to use Lanford as someone who zones opponents away from Florentia (blocking movement tiles etc), not as an actual guard unit. Thanks for the advice though, I think I'll stick with my princess team and splash Isolde over until I get more chars/stuff. I'm at lv 70 and barely beating lvl 65 content so I guess I just need to farm more.
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Oh damn, delegations will take your best time instead of the usual 5 min. if you manual them at least once.
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Seems next characters in CN is Langrisser Millennium.
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>>1437721
It actually helps a ton with non-consistent setups since you don't have to rng them or figure out a setup with minimal rng anymore which is nice.
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Man, I really like the Empire characters.
Right now I'm using Bernhardt, Vargas, Egbert, Tiaris and Altemuller.
I got Leon, Ledis and Cherie but idk what to do with them.
Vargas was a replacement for Greinier (sp?) and I'm missing those barbs.
Got Imelda, Varna and Hein but I'm unsure what to do with them other than using Hein for teleport.
And I keep getting Liffanys.
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So LLR Chris and another game mode that's going to have a billion complicated mechanics. I'm both excited and scared.
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>>1438503
Bernie is absolutely top tier. That bro carried me hard during the most difficult content I had to endure in my road to 70. His aura is fantastic and being able to stun is a nice bonus. Leon is empire too, when you get Bernie's faction buff, the two are killing machines. Tiaris best PvE healer, make a priority to get her to 6* asap so her talent activates 100% of the time. Cherie is a very good cleaning mob unit, being able to act twice in a turn (as long as you kill the first) and she even is great for end game content once you upgrade her to SP, so it's not a waste to invest in her.

>Vargas was a replacement for Greinier (sp?) and I'm missing those barbs.
If you like fixed damage, wait till you get Freya, she's a fricking hedgehog.
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>get Gunn from the free x10
Wait what? Is the regular banner updated until the most recent release?
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Yeah, for anyone wanting to try to look, I grabbed a random twitter page that's translating the stuff into japanese that seems to have a bunch of screencaps. There are some story spoilers in there though if you look hard enough. There's some weird new summon that got translated as 'deification of langrisser 1-3 characters", so I guess you can summon god Elwin/Bozel statue looking things into the battleground for effects. Guessing this is the new LLC Chris thing mentioned here >>1438562

https://twitter.com/LR_Lucretia
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Is there any reason to have an alt account other than to avoid doing joint battles with randoms? I guess it could be usefull for DE if both characters are in the same guild.
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>>1438568
> Freya
I got her but I ignored her since she's not empire.
The only non empire char I'm using now is Tiaris, Bernie just got the faction buff and it's so nice.
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>>1438503
Unfortunately later you will be forced to build more factions...

Some advice for the future:
Tiaris is one of the best healers in the game and does her job well but sooner or later you will need Rozenciel (she's empire) since a lot of the endgame is balanced taking into consideration that you have her.
Vargas is a good tank but he needs EE for ranged guard and from mid act two you will need ranged tanks possibly who can use non-lancer soldiers. For Empire the best replacement is Hilda or Christiane.
Hein and Egbert aren't bad and have some interesting skills but they both don't have the stats so you'll have to get badass mages, Lucretia for Empire.
Forget SP Grenier, it costs so many resources that it is better to invest in something else.
Ledin and Cherie are a good starting point to build a Glory faction but to do this you will need Elwin (who is also empire) who has the best FB for Glory.
Freya is a good unit, especially when you need fixed damage and since she has a FB she can be used on any team but her 3c is one of the trickiest to get.
Varna is useful in DE since with 3c she can use skills every turn.

However, in my opinion, the most important thing to know is that before trying to summon a new unit you must always check which bonds it needs.
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>>1438562
Happy for LLR Chris although I would have preferred SP Chris. Less happy with the new mode if the stats check is based on casting 5+ and ragnarok stats.

>>1438964
To coop with yourself (both for dailies and DE), to try to progress differently from the other account (for example starting from scratch with a Dark faction), if you are so masochistic that you want to suffer again from lv 1 to 70 considering that you would have to do the whole story mode and time rift again to get crystals and all the secret realms challenges and you would also have to do the events twice every update.
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>>1439030
The mode doesn't seem very set in stone yet. At the very least, it seems to be more horizontal yet again like covenants, which means there's going to be stages starting from a certain level, up to end game content. As you beat stages, you can use them in more content, and apparently they're considering whether to let you use them in Apex or not. The summon seems to be more limited to buffing/aura/terrain and stuff compared to covenants which had huge damage potential by themselves, and is intended to help people clear stages they can't, i.e. Ragnarok. Obviously we know over the course of the year after it's release they're going to ramp up difficulty for end game content taking it into consideration.

You can bring up to 5 of these diety things into battle, and you can choose who you want to summon. Leveling them seems to be like covenants? where you have to wait for mats to level them up, but getting skills is like the mirror world tree so you can't pick everything.

It seems their for lasting impact for people who don't want to deal with the new mode is that possibly challenge stages in general events, and maybe future PvE will have mob enemies that have an "elemental shield". where you need to use these guys to break the shields before you can damage them and stages that change depending on which diety you summon. But they claim that they won't implement stages outside of the mode that require you to have very high levels of this new mode cleared.
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>>1439025
Thanks a lot! Yeah I won't care -too much- about choosing the most OP characters or it'll just suck out the fun out of the game.

>you'll have to get badass mages, Lucretia for Empire
damn, it's already grating to have Tiaris and now I should add another fucking loli? At least she's empire, but I think I'll pass.
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>>1438964
Someone in my guild has an alt for DE. He mainly uses it to assist the few people who actually grind shit out to get more supplies. His alt is good enough to actually contribute and solo shit at the end too.
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>>1438964
You can also PvP with yourself instead of waiting for people to trade wins. Pretty sure this is bannable in Apex though, so it's basically limited to WA weeklies.
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>>1439030
>>1439113
>>1439147
Gotcha, I thought that maybe there was an end game co op event that I didn't play yet. Probably not worth it at the moment until I want to feel that 1-70 struggle again in a year or two.
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Finally all eternal temples done. Got Pheonix yesterday (pain in the ass, probably the one that gave me most trouble) and Valkyrie today. Now to focus on covenants.
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>>1440850
Congrats anon. I remember struggling with Scylla 70 forever ago because her rotation would mean you had to tank at least 1 summon + raging waves and it kept killing at least 1 unit even through shrine maidens. Nowadays if you just wait long enough Odin can probably solo any of them by slapping it twice but it's always nice to get through it with big brain instead.
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>>1440859
Took me a long time to get Scylla 70 too. The problem was trying to figure out when he was going for the double aoe. That was until I found this spreadsheet ,it was a quite easier after that. Just posting it here in case someone else need it.
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How do people even get more than 1 SR per 10 pull? I'm soo sick of Liffany
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>>1441001
Did you use the Cherie's bag that you get as a reward? It let you summon any SR unit that you need.
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>>1441023
I think I got two of those?
I think I used the first for an Egbert and I might still have the other one.
But anyway I meant that the 10 pulls (whether from tickets or diamonds) just keep giving me so many damn Liffanys.
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Who should I pick with the fusion power stardust? Choices are Shelfaniel, Landius and Dieharte.
I wish I hadn't ignored it, because I got Bernhard and Altemuller from one of those banners where you can wishlist two. I already have Ledin
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>>1442132
Depends on what you think you'll need. For the faction buff, Landius is still good but he's very mid as a tank now. But the other option for Yeless is Sigma, and even if you built him and liked him, it's more inconvenient to have to buff with your DPS. Dieharte has a very gimmicky moveset and you'll eventually have Freya to buff Origins, since she at least has a niche and activates her guard along with the faction buff. But that's a 3c, so I don't know how close you are to unlocking those. Shelfaniel is not usually used for the faction buff either, but for an early character her AoE skills are ridiculous. Of course, that'd require some building before she was worth it, but she's required building for dimensional expeditions because of her multiple chances of reducing cooldowns. Her pve issue is the 3 move, and that she might be unimpressive until she's fully built, so that might also factor into your thinking.
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>>1442192
I meant that I have an item that gives me one of those characters.
Or I could just take the shards to buff Bern?
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>>1442206
Right, that's why I was trying to tell you what the benefits of each one is. Bernhardt is great, but rolling a specific character can be a real pain in the ass. If you don't want to build one of them yet, you can always keep the bag and see if one of them appears on a destiny banner that does have a character you want later on. That won't happen soon, but the game is a real marathon so waiting isn't the worst option.

https://wikigrisser-next.com/news
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As a newfag I really like this game, but Zilong is totally overwhelm me with contents and shits without any way to intuitively understand the system.
So, at my level what are the most important things and characters to focus on, I feel Sacred Realm is too tedious too push (atm I just mindlessly sweep lvl 50), but now even Time Rift is cockblocking me too, and I don't really have time to tryhard all the content (due work, study reason)
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>>1442276
It might look like there's a ton of content and systems, but a lot of them actually aren't too relevant to progression. Just for pulls and lore. In terms of stats, there's only a few categories.

>Level+Class Mastery
>Equipment+Enchants
>Bonds
>Stars
>Soldiers
>Casting
The way of the law stages. Relatively new. Just do what you can but it's not too important to push it now.
>Covenant
More late game stuff

If you haven't joined a guild yet, just try to get into one that's actively sweeping catastrophe. It'll give free class mastery mat, equip upgrading mats, and some crystals/gold.

>So, at my level what are the most important things and characters to focus on
Make sure to do Aniki everyday. Level up your most used troops to level 10, then upgrade the percent attack nodes of your most used soldier classes. Make sure your equipment is either level 40 SSR, or level 50 SR. You should bond your main team as high as you can. You should try to use some runestones to class mastery both paths for your main team. Make sure you have a faction buff and a team build around one.

Game revolves around the trinity of tank+healer+dps. Your only faction buffers currently are Bernhardt, Ledin, Luna and Awakened One. AO can buff herself, but her FB is time which is the crossover faction.

I would recommend you start as princess since you already have Luna, or try to go for Empire which is always good. You can use Luna+AO+Lana or Cherie for physical damage, and try to go for Christiane and a healer SSR. Mainly Liana, Rozenciel, or Tiaris. You can use Freya and Almeda in the meantime.

>I feel Sacred Realm is too tedious too push
Unfortunately this game really won't let you unga bunga your way through most of it. If anything, bosses and stages are just going to get even harder and more complicated. If you don't try to push you're just going to be stuck there for a long time. If there's a specific stage, you can ask for advice on it.
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>>1442403
Thanks a lot, I got the main ideas now.
>If you haven't joined a guild yet, just try to get into one that's actively sweeping catastrophe. It'll give free class mastery mat, equip upgrading mats, and some crystals/gold.
Yeah, my guild is pretty active so I bought a lots of class materials from the shop when Time Rift was too hard to clear.
>I would recommend you start as princess since you already have Luna, or try to go for Empire which is always good. You can use Luna+AO+Lana or Cherie for physical damage, and try to go for Christiane and a healer SSR. Mainly Liana, Rozenciel, or Tiaris. You can use Freya and Almeda in the meantime.
I have a feeling that my team feels lackluster because I haven't built around a faction yet, even when unit such as AO is totally broken compared to the old ones. Thanks for comfirming that, I guess it's time to focus on Princess then, as I totally lack Empire units.
>Unfortunately this game really won't let you unga bunga your way through most of it. If anything, bosses and stages are just going to get even harder and more complicated. If you don't try to push you're just going to be stuck there for a long time. If there's a specific stage, you can ask for advice on it.
Right, but maybe I neglected something that make stages easier to clear. I feel I'm outstated by most enemies at current lvl, in fact the greatest problem for me is that Aniki can oneshot my Almeda with his nuke, which forces me to play very carefully with unit positioning.
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>>1442456
Aniki's Macho Blast ignores 100% of defense. This means if you weren't using a faction buff or a generic defense buff until now, all of your units have 0 defense against it. It's mainly a HP check, but many bosses in the future will also have aoe's so it's good to learn early I guess.

Macho Blast targets units it's effective against first, then there's some weird priority but you can test it yourself. I used Luna to tank a lot of the time because she has high base hp in her flier class. Just slap on a few hp enchants in case and you're good to go. If he keeps targeting Almeda, you don't really have a choice except to get her HP up, but even something like 6% on your armors and using an HP accessory can go a long way. Don't forget to level her bonds too, which affects base hp which is in turn multiplied by enchants.

The other thing that makes Luna good early on is that none of the Aniki stages are immune to her faction buff percent HP damage, so you can actually clear stages way higher leveled than you normally would.
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>>1442456
One tip that helped me with Anikis early on was that they don't do their aoe if someone is in range of his normal attack, so I usually teleported my tank or strongest hero next to him to tank for a couple of rounds until the rest of the party arrives. Even if the teleported character dies, he has done his job on holding Aniki from launching aoes.
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Nice, I'll take that, thanks. Now to figure out if I want it on Lina or Lana when I eventally get her SP. Don't know if there are any other mages that apply a debuff before battle.
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>>1442594
Bat mages.
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Posting the new heroes!

This is Virelia.
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>>1444052
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>>1444052
>>1444053
And here's Seraphina.
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>>1444055
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>>1421555
>>1421556
Also, let's post Echo of Light skin for Celica.
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>>1421557
>>1421558
>>1444059
This one belongs to Ymir.
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>>1444052
This doesn’t look like Langrisser, where are the giant shoulder pa-
>>1444055
HOLY FUCKING SHIT!
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>>1444273
Many mage types didn't have giant shoulder pads in old Langrisser art either (Liana, Hein, Jessica)
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>>1444052
Meh dumb buns.
>>1444055
Ah fuck my semen.
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Do the resets in endless voyage recharge everyday or at some point they ran out? Got overwhelmed by a bazillion of punking mans and I need to reroll for a good couple of anti flyers units.
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>>1444693
*pumpking
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>>1444693
>>1444695
You can buy resets with crystals or wait as more resets will be given during the duration of the event.
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>>1444693
The pumpkins negate type advantage, don’t they? You just need some strong single target attackers, strong AOEs to soften them up, or a strong tank to do tons of damage to them while taking little in return.

I did it though with a long range team, lucked out on getting Sagani and Kirika so I only agrod the ones I wanted while hitting him from a dozen tiles away.
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Take that, you fucking pumpkin piece of shit™. Damn, it took me way too long but I can finally sleep. I don't even care what I got as the reward.

MVP : Ice tactic on tank.
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wtf, no elven ring? Solar eclipse must've borked the game code. Isolde is now fully geared.
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I hate how they still put out super cute skins for characters no one uses at 188 tickets.
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Also I assume these are the grindy towers. Are there any more after this?
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>>1446124
Those are the only grindy towers. There’s still stages after it obviously, but they’re just normal stages. If you want to rank make sure to look up a video of the chaos stage, since its probably the only stage you can’t just unga with Cherie after. Also be careful on the towers because it eats up a key entry even if you lose unlike other stages where you have infinite resets.
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>>1446238
>eats up a key entry
Oof okay I haven't tried running them yet. Gotta look up the final floors so I know who to reserve. Did the final stage open up on global at daily reset or after a maint? I'm praying it isn't at reset here since that'll ruin my chances of ranking.
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Which idiot designed this battle? Literally impossible with my team comp.
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>>1446775
Yeah that fight walled my first team comp too, was scary because I didn’t know if a reset would give me the units I need.
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>>1446547
Its fine not to reserve for the towers since you get way more supplies than you need. I believe the stages open up 6? hours after reset or so. There’s a timer in-game too where you can check in the mirror world map.
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>>1446775
I don't know but it feels like we've returned to the voyage of a few years ago. Not only have they decreased the resources by removing the puzzles but they have again made a boss that requires a certain type of group, in this case ST units that manage to oneshot or that have act again, obviously if you don't have talents and/or tactics that increase the stats the battle gets tough because of that fucking debuff that could disable the tank or block healing.

So it is obligatory to say in this case... fuck Zlong!
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Yeah these towers are jsdoif;shjaof;ljsaf. Cleared one tower, got to 10 on another and 5 on the other two. Next area is already unlocked and I just don't want to do anything any more. I can't believe they're going to do this shit again.
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So Girl in the Shell is a better Lucretia who is better than Lana, therefore is worth investing in?
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>>1448385
>So Girl in the Shell is a better Lucretia
No. She's a sidegrade outside of specific situations with the right upgrades on her 3c. If you don't have SP Lana already and need more long range mages go for it. It looked like they were bringing out more characters that get their talent spike at 5* when she came out so that's also a plus.
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>>1448388
Alrighty. Guess I'll invest in her. Thanks.
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>>1448385
Yes, it is worth investing in her especially because she is princess and tensei but she is not at Lucretia levels and, at least for me, I never use 3c with offensive upgrades. To be precise, GiTS, for the way the talent works and the 1c utility, can be considered an improved version of LoG rather than Lucretia.
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How did you guys tackle the last tower? Did you just throw supplies at it to ensure you get the maximum skips?
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>>1448986
At this point you can dump most of your supplies. You only need ~80-100 to beat the last zone with Cherie+Aka and maybe a few others in case.

You probably want to ensure maximum skips anyways because it saves time and you save supplies by skipping, so unless you're confident no reason not to use supplies to deploy 5.

Make sure to upgrade and collect the achievements so everything is done before tomorrow if you're planning on ranking. The 10 seconds it takes to upgrade and collect can be the difference between top 10/50 and 50/100. Also don't use expedition for anything tomorrow. People will be done in under an hour, and Cherie+Aka takes 1-2 minutes per stage.
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>>1449047
By "tomorrow", I meant whenever the last zone unlocks for you guys.
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>>1449047
>The 10 seconds it takes to upgrade and collect can be the difference between top 10/50 and 50/100.

This really isn't true unless you're somehow in the sweatiest server cluster in the game. People miss points, or can't clear everything, or get stalled on a fight. Even missing like 2-3 dailies I finished 49 before the big reward cut off.

Maximum points is the only thing that matters unless someone is absolutely going for the top couple spots. In which case yeah, a little speed helps, but fucking lol at trying to min-max ten seconds doing upgrades.
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>>1449047
I've got like 200 supplies right now so I guess I'm pretty set. Any recommendations for camp upgrades? Aside from the obvious meteor lines for Cherie. I'd imagine miracle upgrade is also great to take.
It looks like quite a few people have missed a daily. Lots of people behind like me though so I have no idea how many are actually still in the running for the higher ranks. The next area unlock is in 24 hours and after that there's one more before the last one.
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>>1449064
I don't know what server cluster you're on, but the Salrath one had people missing top 10 by those few seconds. Same with top 50. Those 10 seconds alone might not be the only factor, but you can tell that to the people in 11 and 12 while they're upgrading and someone takes the 10th spot. Missing a daily placed you at around 150? or so.
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>>1449067
I think you're more than fine to get top 100. Miracle is a good one to have, mostly because you're likely doing Werner or bringing Rozenciel for Chaos. I don't think the rest really matter desu. Just grab the stat upgrades for whichever team you choose to do Chaos with, most likely Empire or Princess. Elwin and Glory is sometimes nice to have if you use him instead of Zerida.
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Level 50 now.
Should I spend gold at the trading post? Referring mostly to crafter hammers and epic martial spirits, the training materials seem like a no brainer.
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>>1452156
also, I've completely ignored the Endless voyage.
Should I try to do it?
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>>1452156
Yes, epic martial spirits and aniki mats are good to buy. Pretty much everything except SR enchants and hammers are good to buy for a growing account. You will get more than enough hammers eventually. If you really need it to clear a stage by upgrading weapon/acc then sure, but it's generally not worth the gold.

Endless Voyage is a roguelike version of the game which means it starts from zero, except for 2 star syncs which match the inmode star level to your actual unit. You can mix and match skills and talents, play with old collab characters, etc. It's recommended to finish it obviously because everyone can do it, but in practice you might have some difficulty considering some people playing for a year still complain about completing it. However if you have the time, the rewards are fantastic, especially the whopping 250 controllers you get for completing the extra stages at the end.
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>>1452198
it's an rng mode, if the rng is positive then you won't have many problems, if it was negative you might hate it. The current voyage is quite difficult because they removed the puzzles that gave more rewards and because for all three bosses you need AA and Rozenciel/mass crystal heal to make things easier. The main boss gimmick is summon strong minion, practically every boss summons one or more minions with annoying talents and skills that on average cannot be oneshotted.
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Final area opening in the middle of Saturday, at what point is the final ranking decided upon? I assume it's not going to be do dailies at the top of reset for the rest of the event. Also upgraded my tent finally and hit rank 62, wanted to get top 50 but it might be tough.
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>>1453128
Final ranking is decided by points and time finished, so whoever finished the final stage first with all their points gets top spot and so on. That rank is final unless someone happens to finish after you and has more points than you do.

Dailies will quit giving points and only offer gold/resources after that day. I'm unsure if the dailies on the day it opens gives points or not.
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>>1453196
Cool, I'm guessing Werner is the most braindead way of dealing with Chaos? Do you just teleport him up there and have everyone else double kill the adds?
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>>1453649
You need to kill/stun the adds for buffs. Werner cheese just has him killing/stunning all of the adds while slowly chipping away Chaos. Might want to switch to Assassin for Last Rites too, and you need a lot of support for him, although Werner himself doesn't have to be too high starred. It's only slightly faster than doing it normally.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKFWQJlmIEs

I would rather do it normally though to rank. If you find out like halfway through your Werner dies or you don't have enough damage anyways there's no way to clock your way out. With a traditional Empire or Princess team you definitely have the dps, it's just about managing who stuns the adds, tanking aoes and when to engage Chaos so clock can always save you if you mess up. If you have YJ you can also sort of "cheese" it with Princess for the same reason as Voyage.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPRAcd7pnkI
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>>1453946
I'll study up on these normal clears I guess, Princess I imagine will be better for me since Cherie is busted and long range mages are even longer range mages in this content.
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Wanted top 50 and got top 50, even though I fucked up Chaos several times and had to restart. It was a good thing to start off with him and throw Cherie at the rest after.
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I think I feel the same way as you guys did about this. Aside from the towers and frantic grinding on the final unlock it was pleasant since the challenging bits weren't the usual full of shit 10 pages of mechanics that you won't know will happen until it happens. Also thanks for the input kind anon(s), make things a lot easier on me.
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>>1454916
It was fun for me too. Honestly I even liked the towers, except maybe the floor 10 bosses which were absolutely just stat bullshit. Also at that point they gave so many refills it wasn’t about resource management anymore and more about whether you could clear or not. Plus I would’ve liked for the skill tree to be slightly more balanced. Maybe swap the skills that get upgraded every round or so. Unfortunately it seems CN did not like it very much.
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>>1454291
Congrats man. I liked this event as an excuse to dust off a lot of the roster. Even got a lot of SRs built and thrown into the grinder just to help conserve resources. I didn't like the equipment being locked if a character was "used" for the day and the uber statted dungeon somewhat sucked, but it was still leaps and bounds above Ragnarok of the Realms and it was sure as shit better than Dimensional Expedition. I honestly wish this would just replace DE since it's similar enough in scope.

Voyage is still their best content they have on rotation in my opinion. Somewhat consistent, often challenging, and very rewarding.
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Leaving this here in case someone needs it. Put those characters in there to get special dialog and rewards. You don't need to leave them permanently, just slot them to get the reward and take them out.
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I've been spending some time developing the covenants, just unlocked Odin today. I remember reading somewhere that you don't have enough points to max out all the covenants. Which are the less usefull ones that people generally leave incomplete?
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Heim, Frigg/Freyja whichever one has the AA shit, Vidar. You do need some in them for their Ragnarok enchant bs whatever the fuck you want to call it, but usually Thor and Odin are summoned immediately on turn 1 so they need to be maxed. Frigg/Freyja for mages is usually summoned early too, Baldr sometimes gets a delayed summon but sometimes is needed immediately.



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