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Is the story finished?
I never played Blue Reflection Sun and I don't want to try, but I hope that the people who have played the game enjoy it until the end. F.And to think that today is the 7th anniversary of Blue Reflection in Japan, it's been 7 years since the release of the first game in that country...*if* the end of Blue Reflection Sun really is the end of Blue Reflection in general, then we can say that the franchise ended not with a bang but with a whimper (or a disappointment)...we'll see.
>>1439081>I hope that the people who have played the game enjoy it until the endI hope not. I hope they feel miserable about it.
At least they will finish the story even if they have to rush it. I hope we get another game but this is just copium at this point.
>>1439103Hopefully another game with harem. These JKs are asking to be punished.
>>1438995Maybe the ending is or will be rushed, but the story is finished, at least, I want to think that it's finished.
I really hope some anon could archieve the game and all of its assets so we can mod it offline later
>>1439261Be the change you want to see
>>1439324I cant even log into the gameLot of anons here have been playing since months. They can share the game assets (APKs + obb files + something else I forgot)
>yuri-lite magical girl franchise>go full hetWhat was the point of fracturing an already niche franchise?
>>1440229Surely some fired executive thought it was the path to success
>>1440295Mel wanted a male mc since the first game but got shot down until now.
>>1440473Gust should stop working with him forever.
>>1440665He's so hilariously proud of creating a self insett.
On a serious note, are there any repositories of BRA cards? I am down bad for some of these girls.
>>1441109https://exhentai.org/g/2860619/a65f2d2225/
Mel just confirmed that he had to censor a lot of stuff because he tried to appeal to a global audiencehttps://twitter.com/mellco/status/1775015963785904451
>>1441427I feel like you should worry about this after your game is confirmed for a global release.
>>1441427What global audience lmao
>>1441427This says nothing about a global audience. He just said he wanted more people to understand it, most likely self-inserters.
>>1441427>make game that runs purely off A E S T H E T I C>gameplay is terrible>decide to expand games universe by appealing to more audiences>shoe string budget anime that didn't even have an official home release>greater scope sequel game is at best just okay>self-insert gacha game in a fucking magical girl franchiseI promise you anon, Blue Reflection's failure has nothing to do with the lack of feet shots and bath tub scenes.
>>1441679>Blue Reflection's failure has nothing to do with the lack of feet shots and bath tub scenesYes it does
>>1441427Global audience???
>>1441427>Said the Yuri was completely accidental>Didn't realize people enjoyed Yuri>Made the emperor self insert since he wanted romance>Expected it to be well received because he liked it>Didn't expect it to do so poorly >Angry fans didn't like his self insert >If given the chance would make br again>Would again add a male self insertIs this guy just a fucking dumbass? No sense of self reflection.
>>1441801I dont see how making the first game with a male self insert would have been that difficult in the first place, maybe hes a sore loser that his male protag wasnt as well received as he thought.
>>1441427This franchise is doomed
>>1441808I'm sure someone at Gust talked him down by blaming tech limitations. I personally don't think it's even worth talking about stuff like his "vision" for the franchise because at the end of the day, I don't think there really is a coherent one. >>1442000We've known this Ray.
>>1442061Who knows maybe if it started as a hetero harem franchise (if that was indeed the plan) and built a fanbase from there it could have saved itself, the only appeal from this genre shift was making the yuri part of the existing fanbase to leave, I guess that appeals to some people.
>>1441427>You’re unable to view this Post because this account owner limits who can view their PostsLmao is he afraid of getting backlash or something?
>>1442834It's still showing for me
>>1442836Are you following him?
>>1442839Nope but I'm logged in if that makes a difference
>>1442845Kek I know the reason now. I'm actually blocked by him.
>>1442849Heh good riddance
>>1442851I never actually interacted with any of his tweets. If I'm blocked that would mean he was seething at me talking about yuri under a few of BR Sun's tweets early last year. Looks like this guy really loves his self-insert. This is so fucking hilarious.
>>1442865What the hell, that's so bizarre
>>1442904This happens often when a male writer discovers his writing appeals to women,not other men.They somehow think they didn't write a straight enough story and overcompensate so hard they lose both audiences.
>>1442914He isn't a writer, but an artist. The gacha's writer did Ar Tonelico and co before. The normal games were written by other people as well.
>>1438930Is really no one going to rip the 3d models? How do you extract the assets?
>>1442914>writerRetard
Which reflectors where built for stacy FeMC Ao and which were built for self-insert kun?
>>1443522Yes you are.
>>1443690Keep doubling down sister
>>1441427>global audienceDid he mean the whole franchise was censored? Or just BRS?
>>1445437Whole franchise after 1
>>1445546And that's one reason Tie and Sun failed?
>>1446206Tie was just a normal game. The anime failed, and this obviously. No surprise with Sun though. The problem just exists when different people do different parts. People who liked BR 1, will likely enjoy 2 (Tie) as well, because it's the same team. But the anime was written by someone else and garbage. And then the gacha ended up doing things once again so differently, the fans of the game(s) largely don't give a shit. But a lot of fans of Ar Tonelico give no shit about BR, completely aside of potentially not even KNOWING that the BR gacha is more that than BR.This was a multi-media project done wrong.
BasedSelf insert fags take another L
>>1446216Am I reading this right? This gacha game was closer to Ar Tonelico than BR? I need some context. I loved the PS2 games.
CASE 10 part 2 it's out nowhttps://twitter.com/BRSUN_game/status/1777607383281447328
>>1446695>more JK slutsnice
>>1446695As long as Hinako gets a happy ending I'll be happy
>>1446695>>1446756Pantsu?
Mel posting some Yukiko designs that will never make it to the game now
>>1447411
Also this
>>1447413
Any updates ripping the 3d models and the other assets?
>>1448350No gachafag knows about game rpping or any kind of job. Go ask /wsr/ or /agdg/
>>1448658Playing gacha is a full time job
Is this the only banner we're getting? Should I start dumping everything I have in there?
>>1441427and here, i was waiting for a global release, TT, I'll stick to atelier
Happy birthday Hiori
Looks like they're still going to do the whole log in to get a 10pull ticket of the birthday character
>>1450018I want to blow a load inside her
>>1450018>>1450019Post Hiori pantsu
>>1450224There you go, her panties...in Blue Reflection: Second Light.
>>1442817It was magical girl/slice of life girl drama stuff with some extremely light yuri on the side. It wasn't just the yuri audience they drove away and I doubt they were the majority of the fanbase in the first place.I'd say it's a similar audience to Atelier. It has yuri elements but that's not necessarily why people are there.
The next part of Case 10 comes out tomorrow
>>1447411>>1447412butt spikes
>>1450624>extremely light yuri>like AtelierLiking Gust games in general isn't weird, but unlike Atelier, Blue Reflection 2 has a not deniable explicit lesbian pair. That's more than a ton of "yuri" games can offer, especially because this pair isn't just some minor side cast, but actually part of the main cast.In other words it's more explicit than Nights of Azure, another yuri-ish Gust game. (with god awful gameplay, because the only Gust thing was actually the name and music, but the actual dev was named differently before and the staff just transferred due to TK branding)It's just a weird project. If you wanna do Ar Tonelico, do that. If you wanna do Blue Reflection, do that. Why call it one thing and make the other? I said this before, but I like both but would never want one to be the other.
>>1450941My point wasn't about how explicit the yuri in either series is, it was that they both have a wider audience outside yuri and that most of that audience was also pushed away by BR turning into a self insert harem story. I don't know what Mel was smoking when he decided the same audience that enjoyed character driven magical girl slice of life high school drama would want to see those same characters in a harem. Maybe KT/Gust have been tard wrangling him this whole time and dealing with DMM finally let him loose.
>>1450498What about her pantsu in Sun?
>>1451098If yurifags were only a minority of BR fans, why were they the ones most upset about Sun being a harem game?
>>1451135>minoritychecks out
>>1451134Who knows. Maybe the design is the same, Lime wears the same underwear in Blue Reflection Sun, it just looks lower resolution compared to the PS4 games, so, perhaps Hiori wears the same panties in Blue Reflection Sun.
>>1451862Blue Archive games in general look very low budget. I've seen indies that mog the fuck out of these. Nip publishers always doing the bare fucking minimum.
>>1452820*Blue Reflection
>>1438930Good riddance. I hate it when games get gachafied. I hope the devs of Tie and Sun choke on cocks for making Ruka non-existent after Ray.
>>1453025You must be a Ruka fan then.
CASE [Last] on Friday https://twitter.com/BRSUN_game/status/1783405590771044784
https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueReflection/comments/1cd4ibg/need_help_with_old_assets_for_sun/Wait someone's making an offline version of the game?
>>1458202What a based lad. Best of all is that if he succeeds it won't be tied to Kike Tecmo.
>>1458542Chance should be guaranteed
>>1458540I didn't understand anything and it sucked. Apparently it just continued into Second Light regardless? but it's a different loop. Also Shiho and Aleshia suddenly love each other for some reason. I wish I could just forget this story.
>>1458202Did he rip the pantsu?
good, another "yuri" lbgt game bites the dust.
>>1459087You might be retarded. It was the exact opposite of that.
>>1459103good, another lbgt "yuri" game bites the dust.
>>1458630Did it at least tie all the loose ends? There were quite a few left, like Ao's backstory, what led to the World System's creation, the Shijou family, whatever happened to Uta between Ray and Tie. Also, the story was always hinting at Ayami playing a more significant role towards the end, but did that big reveal actually happen? She obviously knew way more than she let on, but I gave up on following the main story after Chapter 8 since it was going nowhere
>>1458202For fucks sake remove GameGuard and such anti tamper protections. The game ever run with those enabled. I want to play on desktop too
>>1459124nothing got solved.
The final battle with Uta doesn't even have original music...disappointing but not surprising.
>>1459830Yes, she is, and the music for the final battle is Toshitake -Hien-...
>>1458433The situation is quite crappy at this point, so I might as well give a try to check assets for mobile. I didn't investigate it yet but I might not be able to use them as is for PC version because of possible incompatibility, aside of being obviously lower resolution (which sucks but better than nothing). So I probably would have to manually "convert" ~50 files, not sure if I would still have enough motivation to go through that.>>1459084I don't know a thing about 3D models. Necessary assets are certainly there, and there is no protection to read files. Most likely you can easily get what you need.>>1459153As far I know, devs disabled GG at some point, I think it was about 2 months ago. Some files of it are still in game folder but I am quite positive they don't do a thing. The very least, it does not give me any errors which it would normally produce.
>>1460003No one understood what it mean so wait a few weeks we get a grasp or more events to explain it
>>1458202>>1460041How different is this game from Atelier Resleriana? Wasnt it meant to be the same game but different skinned?If one gets offline patched then other one will happen too. You may use Resleriana for PC version
>>1460179Not really sure why you would ask me that question. I didn't play and have no plans to try Atelier Resleriana so can't comment on how it was meant to be and if anyone would try making offline version of it.I played and likes first two BR games and played Sun, and despite not liking Sun I still wanted to try preserving it anyway because it's most likely the end of the series.
>>1460179This game wishes it was Atelier Resleriana.It was fucking garbage and I'm still mad I even bothered playing it.
About assets request, looks like I can use files from Android version, so I updated the post on Reddit. If you have suitable files, please let me know.
>>1461086Great, really hope that it works out!>>1461087Like I mentioned on Reddit, there are model files which are implied to be fbx but I don't know how to handle them for unity case, For example, UABEAvalonia seems to recognize the content but how to export them - I don't know. Almost all game assets will be supplied with offline server, including models and textures, so it won't be fully lost for time being,Just in case, here all files related to models, as far I can see - https://mega.nz/file/5c8RSTjD#7uRF2KMUkHK15NaX12gm4snIlBJWlfde5-mGybI67cQarp24d
>>1461166Thank you! But unfortunately, it did not have old assets as well. It happened a number of times already that I am not sure anymore, either you also had your cache reset when gameguard was added, or the game actually clears some older assets on its own.
Atelier Resleriana player here. Can someone explain how these Unity files work? What should I look for?>>1461196>or the game actually clears some older assets on its own.Did list files since three last versions or Resleriana and can comfirm the game DO delete them and replace them with similar size filesFor example events screen get replaced every update so it always contains all the available events hence last update has a smaller final size
>>1461157>Encryption Key RequiredWell, that's great. Can you upload the sound-related files also?
>>1461273That's weird, somehow some extra text appended at the end of the link ("arp24d"), not sure why. Let's try again - https://mega.nz/file/5c8RSTjD#7uRF2KMUkHK15NaX12gm4snIlBJWlfde5-mGybI67cQ. Sound files - like music, or in a broader sense?>>1461267Damn if it's so. From what I could see, Sun generally keep older version of assets (it's like "some_file_abc/revision_2", "some_file_abc/revision_5" etc), but I didn't have an opportunity to see how many it can keep if it's limited. So far I have seen 5 revisions for a single asset file.
>>1461322A broader one. Character Voices from the Story, to the Events, to the Battle quotes.
>>1461327Alright. Unlike 3D model files, I have some idea about using sound files, I checked music files at some point. Those are FSB5 (after you extract data from asset files ofc), I personally used a script for QuickBMS (script https://pastebin.com/ERC6Du5S, was once on their forum but iirc it got lost or something) to convert them to something that I could play in foobar, most likely same approach works for other sound files.Btw, better to backup archives that I post if needed, I don't plan to keep them for long.https://mega.nz/file/5VdFXQKB#KeWMwSorVON-O1GSmvZUgX7FBnXP6lqplrP02IFi6-c
Whats the status on offline mode and local server?
>>1461609I have most of things done. Functionally it's finished, I am just trying to fix the issue of missing very old assets for events (need to find those who played it during Feb-June 2023 and not later, did not find anyone at all so far), and release right after eos happens (so in June).
>>1461362Just finished downloading the .zip file since MEGA decided to be a bit of a snail than I expected. I will try and see if that script of yours works like a charm. Thanks for the hard work, bud.
>>1461636Could you give me hand?Im trying to achieve the same but on Atelier Resleriana Steam version. So far I only got rid of Steam DRM (the game stucks after KT splash screen)What should I do next and how?
>>1462335Well, it's quite individual, case by case. Without checking the game myself, I can only give general suggestions which not necessary would work for Resleriana.The core thing would be figuring out game API, the way it communicates with official server. From what I have seen lately, majority of games use AES for network encryption, and a number of times I have seen them using Protobuf for network data. Personally, I find it easier to investigate Android versions of games (well, partially because I hardly had games with Windows client) because it's easier to setup a proxy to intercept game traffic. I personally use mitmproxy as a proxy, it supports SSL (if you install certificate, you need root on phone/emulator) and scripting (Python)As far I can see, the game uses Unity. So, I would personally suggest first to try Il2CppDumper on Android version to extract text data (stringliteral.json). There you might try to look for base64 strings and see if you get mentions of proto in decoded data. If yes then quite good, though it's going to be a pain to extract and compile the full list of those, not going to cover it here. Second thing would be trying to look for weird random strings of letters/digits/characters which are exactly 16 and 32 characters long - some of those most probably are keys and IVs for AES encryption which might be used for network encryption or/and game data. You would need to experiment with those and try to decrypt game traffic (some game were passing IV in request headers).That would be first thing I would be trying first.
>>1462379>custom proxy>rooted phone>emulatorHow did you not get banned?
>>1462485Generally if game developers don't like emulators or root, they would do their best to make the game not runnable.In my case, I don't really need root all the time. Enable root, add SSL certificate for proxy, and revert root back. For emulator you might not even need root if you have means to add certificate file by other means like editing data file/image. And proxy, I haven't seen games which would have issues about network proxy, and it's not that trackable if it's used.
>>1438930Rest in piss and good fuckin riddanceHope they force Mel to commit seppukuToo bad about the franchise tho i would have been better if it just quietly died after second game rather then last game being this abomination
I think Mel has lost ithis account has just been him posting pictures of himself crossdressing
>>1463858He's crossdressed many times before and he's currently doing it as a gimmick for the maid cafe he runs.Plus he's always been insane.
>>1463862I know he's done it before but the frequency in which he's now posting made me assume he went nuclear.
>>1463869EoS broke him...
So, I want to ask, do we already know the exact lyrics of the Blue Reflection Sun boss theme? The game will end soon and I still don't know the exact lyrics of that rap song. I really like the Blue Reflection Sun boss theme even though it's very different compared to other battle songs in the games, but...what is that man singing?I can undersand that during the first 50 seconds he says ''so it's back into grind yeah'', ''who's gonna make the change to save...'' and ''pick up the ashes to be the ruler'' and I don't understand the rest very well. The song then says ''soul will always seek the truth within you'' and ''will you break the code in this world?!''...at least that's what I think. After that the lyrics are easy to understand for the most part (My soul's on fire'', ''the soul will always seek the truth'', ''rule or be ruled''...).Some people say that Hayato Asano himself is the person singer of that song, regardless if it's him or not it really sounds like someone trying to sing like Lotus Juice and the result is a *great* song in my opinion, but yeah, I don't know the exact lyrics and the previous lyrics are assuming that I'm not mishearing the lyrics...I can't believe I'm the first person who mentions that rap song...
So did the story ended as intended or was bothed up in order to fit within EOS date?
About old game assets. I was doing some checks and it seems there is a probability that iOS version of Sun. I tried checking if it's possible to access game assets on iOS with one of active players, normal file manager didn't show game data at all, so we randomly tried iMazing and surprisingly got access to some data. Unfortunately, for some reason that app could dump only upper level of game cache folder (it created folders for bundles but they were empty, no revision subfolders). I checked at least those folders and spotted folders for some old assets which are not supposed to remain by now if the game is cleaning those, so just maybe all old assets remain. I googled and couldn't find a way to access files there without jailbreaking.If you played the game around spring 2023 on iOS and did not delete it yet, and have your phone jailbroken - I would appreciate your help.
A>>1467764That's a nice looking PS1 game
>>1467764>harem endingNice
Well, I guess we don't really know the exact lyrics of this song. In any case, I love it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcmTGOd2ZuA&ab_channel=%E3%83%AA%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A3%E3%83%AC%E3%82%B3%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89
>>1468754They never give lyrics to go with these tracks anyway. At least the song is there and you can make out most of the words since it's all in English.
BR as an IP has a lot of potential and they fucked it up. I haven't read through all of the thread yet but I hope this isn't the end.
>>1467764>>1468035Post pantsu
>>1468923She doenn't appear in the group but here you go. Lime wears the same panties in every game, but her underwear looks better in the console games. Using the words of MonoSaaaN Gaming: ''This is BLUE REFLECTION''...
>>1438930ok
Towa is dead too
Will this come to ps5?
>>1474941Blue ReflectIon Sun, no, obviously. I don't deny the possibility that someday we might get a native Blue Reflection game for PS5 and not just the PS4 games with backwards compatibility, there are a few Atelier games with PS5 versions, so, a Blue Reflection game for PS5 is not impossible, but Blue Reflection Sun for PS5 will not happen, that's for sure.
Is BRS dying really the end of the franchise?
>>1476159That remains to be seen but it's possible.
What have you all been doing during these last days? I've been spending all my gems and tickets on cards so I can read their scenarios
I haven't played the game in many months and just came to check the thread to see how it was doing and read about the EoS just now. Nyooooo.....
One week (or less) before the end of service. At least Blue Reflection Sun has great music and beautiful 2D art by Mel Kishida. The game itself however, I was never going to play it and I won't miss it.
>>1478694I want the time I spent playing this game back.
>>1478834*Only* the time spent? You did not spend money in Blue Reflection Sun? I hope not at least, because once a gacha game dies, it is gone for good.
Are all the frag cards going to be available in the offline mode that's been worked on?
>>1476159>BR is nich franchise >Large part of it's fanbase is compose of yurifags>Yurifags went nuclear after they announced sun will be harem with male MC declared franchise as dead and forgot it existI mean it's possible but with half of fanbase hating it and Mel being stubborn about male MC i doubt it.
>>1480079Your comment is invalid because you used the word ''yurifags'' and the word ''fag'' is a slur. Yuri fans in any case but the use of that term...no. It's also worth mentioning that IPs developed by Gust sometimes have yuri content, not just Blue Reflection but also Nights of Azure for example, the first game was even released in 2016 before the first Blue Reflection and especially Second Light with Rena and Yuki, so, it's not like Yuri content in a game with the Gust or Koei Tecmo logo is something new.
>>1479986Yes, all cards are available.Offline thing is finished at this point (had to make up some assets because could not find people who would had files), so I am just waiting for 30th when official server goes off.
How many days left until the game dies for good?
>>1481411A bit under 2 days.
Will the offline version get rid of Gameguard or similar?
>>1481933As far I see, GG was disabled a few months ago in official version, and ofc not active in offline as well, unless I miss something obvious. If you name specifically what kind of things it did, I can recheck, I don't recall it well myself.
>>1482013Is this the end of the franchise?
Well, these are the final moments of Blue Reflection Sun, at least the original version. If the offline version is a success, in other words, if an offline version genuinely works and is successfully released...good luck. I hope the people (mostly in Japan) who played Blue Reflection Sun had a great time, the game is officially coming to an end and it's a controversial and polarizing Blue Reflection game, some people consider Blue Reflection Sun a bad game, but hey, at least the game has a beautiful version of ''BLUE REFLECTION''. F. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYXmJ6lNNlY&ab_channel=mokkou
I was the original OP that made first thread and the Closed Beta Test thread and well as the anon posting the twitter updatesThanks sticking by while I was shilling the game
>>1482182What will you miss
Alright, I restored the post on Reddit with offline release, so you can give it a try now. I posted it a week ago but it was hidden by automod, so I decided that I might as well wait till the last day. I hope it's not a total mess of bugs.
>>1482294Thanks anon
>>1482294Based. I'll try it after work
Gonna miss it not gonna lie. I'll be checking out the offline mode just to read all the frag cards I couldn't got
On one hand, I admire the creator's stubbornness in enforcing his vision for the series. On the other hand, I am disappointed that his path leads to a miserable end for one of the few mahou shoujo video game series. I really wonder what the future holds for Gust as a whole.
>>1482552The Gust channel on YouTube hasn't uploaded anything in 10 months, I would say that Atelier Resleriana is making a lot of money and it remains to be seen if Gust/Koei Tecmo will announce a new Atelier game specifically for consoles and PC, in the case of Blue Reflection however, a new main game for consoles and PC is even more unlikely compared to the Atelier franchise.
>>1482828Resleriana is flopping as well, not even Gyaru Ryza could save it. It's not looking good for Gust.
>>1482845Nip gachas are all shit
>>1482845Did the censorship kill it?
>>1482852Well, this isn't the Atelier and Gust General thread, but it's a fact that the censored Plachta design for example affected the popularity of the game in some way, most people who play gacha games don't like censored designs and censorship in general.
>>1482873If people don't like censorship then how come Aster isn't dead yet?
>do 1 last pull>got kabedon AlessiaCool. Can't wait to read it's scenario later on the offline mode
https://x.com/BRSUN_game/status/1796013665294115067It's officially over
>>1482996
Is it safe to delete the app now? Does the guy that runs the offline mode need anything else?
I wonder if the end of service means that the X account will be deleted, it doesn't have a reason to exist anymore. Oh well, I guess I'll see if more Blue Reflection content is announced or released in the near future. If the calendar reads february 2025 and nothing has been released *or* announced by that time...we can take for granted that Blue Reflection is dead.
>>1483055Yeah, should be fine. That bunch of files I asked was the only time I needed something, there is nothing else I would need.
>>1483169Got it.. gonna check out that offline modeThanks for all your hard work
>>1483065Pretty sure it's dead, if a series' gacha dies then usually that entire series dies as a result.
>>1483365Only if the gacha is your main medium. Nothing will prevent them from making BR3 besides lack of profitability.
>>1482845Where are you getting this info?
>>1482294Wait Id swear there were only a mobile version of BRS
>>1483645Well, a bit late but now you know about desktop version too. During CBT there were indeed only Android and iOS versions but official release also got one for Windows right away.
>>1483665Can we mod the PC version?
>>1483666I suppose yes, at least to some degree. Originally it was using C# based libraries which was making the game quite easily moddable (it was using Assembly-CSharp) but around November they switched to compiled C++ (GameAssembly), making it tougher to mod game code. But if it's a matter of editing game resources and not code then it should be pretty simple even for latest version, to my understanding.
>>1483600https://game-i.daa.jp/
So... What now?
>>1483915We wait and see if Gust doesn't die.
>>1483666>>1483674Its doable but a pain the assAssuming it shares the exact engine of Resleriana you may follow its guidehttps://www.loverslab.com/topic/225069-request-atelier-resleriana-forgotten-alchemy-and-the-polar-night-liberator/
>>1483921I'd be sad and happy if this actually does kill Gust
clearly this should have been a roguelike deckbuilder instead
>>1484324This is an underrepresented gacha genre so I'd have to agree
>>1438930YURICHAD HERE GET FUCKED
>>1484353chads would prevented this from ever being a gacha
>>1482294Thank you anonOutside of the problems listed in the ReadMe it works fine I'm glad this shit will not become lost media like 90% of mobile games
>>1484391You're welcome!It might still become lost media when links expire which will happen sooner or later, and no alternative sources being created.
>>1484353Then why are you posting a picture with 2 straight girls?
>>1484441Classical yuribaiting
>>1482294How did you manage savefile system?
>>1484800Original plan when I was trying to implement a proper private server a year ago was to use some database (mysql or sqlite), but for this standalone version I just went with files in format which are stored in "configs/api_data" folder of server. Normally, saving data like this in files is a terrible idea but taking the scale into account, it's imo acceptable.
>>1484800>>1484803* in json format.
>>1462379>Second thing would be trying to look for weird random strings of letters/digits/characters which are exactly 16 and 32 characters long - some of those most probably are keys and IVs for AES encryption which might be used for network encryption or/and game data.Been collecting lot of them... Are they meant to be the very same keys for every platform?
>>1483402>Nothing will prevent them from making BR3Actually Blue Reflection Sun is BR3
>>1486964If you mean keys being common between PC and mobile versions then from my experience keys tend to be same.
So is Blue Reflection actually dead or what
>>1490256Maybe, we'll see. I'll say it again, ''If the calendar reads february 2025 and nothing has been released *or* announced by that time...we can take for granted that Blue Reflection is dead.At least Blue Reflection Sun, yeah, the gacha game is officially dead, but hey, at least one can still play the other two games, and I definitely recommend those games, especially Blue Reflection: Second Light.
How do I play the game if I dont know japanese?
>>1490783You don't. If you *really* want to play the unofficial offline version for PC (for some reason), then use google translate or something, otherwise don't bother with that.
Welp, DMM games has deleted every video of Blue Reflection Sun on YouTube, DMM Games (the YouTube Channel) doesn't have a single Blue Reflection Sun video, not anymore.Well...that's it then, it's over. If someone asks me, that's another reason to close the thread (but I can't do that of course), Blue Reflection Sun is dead and there is not a trace of PVs on that channel, pack up...it's over.
>>1491606That fucking sucksIs DMM evil enough to go after content creators and take down their BRS videos too?I have this playlist with almost all the frag cards scenarios. Is it time to save these videos too?https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBpATMLaT6Bd6PByWv_507tWfFKerHrtU
>>1491606Huh, why would they wipe everything? Weird
>>1491739Waste of space. No point tricking people advertising a game is no more.
>>1491729>>1491771Have they never heard of archives? Like keeping stuff up as an archive of the past? If anything, keeping up videos of lost media is even more important since they're, well, lost.
>>1491606>>1491852The fuck? Most of the dead mobage I know of keep their YouTube videos despite their shut down years ago. I wonder what's going on at the HQ and if they will target their Twitter account next.
>>1491729NTA but>Is it time to save these videos too?Yes. Dont waste timeAlso feel free to ask in case you need help with Youtube downloaders
>>1491729I don't think that DMM Games will go after YouTube channels that have Blue Reflection Sun videos, channels such as Misora000, chaka chaka and deilost for example, those channels will be fine, at least that's what I want to think, but if anyone wants to preserve those videos or content, feel free to save or download those videos.
>>1491984I take for granted the the Twitter account will be deleted at some point in the future, if DMM Games deleted every video that they uploaded on the official channel, then it's a fact that the Twitter account will be deleted too I would say, who knows, if they'll delete that too.
>>1492074>Misora000, chaka chaka and deilost for example, those channels will be fineYeah but I don't trust DMM or YouTube to keep some videos upDon't really care about the BRS videos since I already downloaded the offline version so I'll backup the panties mod videos of Misora
>>1492436Link sto those vids?
The game failed because Uta wasnt the mc
>>1491606Fuck, I forgot to download the full opening song video they had of サケニタイス.
>>1491729Is there something like this but Blue Reflection Second Light dates?
>>1495138Its over
>>1491606It's for the best really.
>>1495138Where can I download the whole song?
>>1500252You can't
>>1501378Nyo
when will you gacha heads learn
>>1503195Learn what?
>>1495138Did anyone else archive it?
Is the franchise still alive?
>>1507876Probably not. Blue Reflection: Second Light was released more than 2 years ago and the next game developed by Gust is Fairy Tail 2.
>Gust made an Atelier gacha>it's censored>it's already doing badly and Japanese people expect it to EoS sooner or laterWhat went so horribly wrong?
>>1511322They expected Ryza could carry the whole franchise on her thighs but they totally overestimated how much people could tolerate their bullshit. They should stop making mobage in general. The market has changed so much in recent years, and they clearly can't adapt to it.
Did anyone manage to edit text gamefiles?Im trying to use Unity autotransaltor but both BepinEx and MelonLoader failed to even run the game
>>1511382Maybe if they made an uncensored or at least minimally censored game it could stand out and thus have a chance at success.
>>1511322Gust is run by incompetent retards who occasionally capture lightning in a bottle.
So... time to let the thread die or still keep it alive? The game is dead and seemingly so too is the franchise.
>>1513922I say, time to let the thread die, Blue Reflection Sun is dead and the purpose of this thread was to complement the final moments of the game, something to enjoy before Blue Reflection Sun ends, and now the game is unplayable (officially) and it's dead, so...this thread doesn't need to remain open anymore, that's what I would say.
>>1514041But is Blue Reflection (the franchise) really dead?
>>1511322Have you seen how braindead their gachas are? Unless it has amazing production values like Uma Musume or Honkai Star Rail it's not gonna work. Times have changed.
>>1514942Unless Mel wants to pay out of pocket for another entry then I'd say it's pretty much buried.
>>1514961Is it dead because BRS died or it was dead after Tie and Ray both bombed?
>>1511322besides censorship, why'd it bomb? i thought it would do great. i only played it for a day and didn't comeback because i got bored, plus censorship didn't help.
>>1515270That post is just disingenuous. The revenue is pretty average and has been consistent outside the high launch month.
>>1515282Yes but apparently there are mumblings about it shutting down soon anyway. I mean, Towa Tsugai was also having average revenue yet that meant jack shit.
I still can't believe Blue Reflection is dead.
>>1515251Its dead because of boring BR1 was.Releasing BR Tie as first game leaving BR1 and Ray as shady prequels would have attracted way more players and give better face to this franchise>>1515282Its not not going at loss but making profitable enough. Resleriana is doomed to the same fate but Gust wont admit it
Well Aster is dead soon, guess Atelier is next.
We just can't win...
And now Re LIVE is dead too.
All the games are dying
>Het games die>But yuri games die tooWhat went wrong?
>>1536684nip gachas are too low quality
How do we save Blue Reflection?
>>1540138Unironically sell it to the gooks. Whoever bought Hi-Fi Rush should also acquire Blue Reflection.
>... still no new game announcements or material of any kindIs the property dead?
>>1543005Right now Gust is busy with Fairy Tail 2 which will be released this December and if not, early next year at the latest, but yeah, Blue Reflection is dead, probably. If we don't get an announcement by february 2025, then, we can say ''Blue Reflection is dead'', for now, that remains to be seen...I guess.
>>1543248Why February 2025?
>>1544269Because Fairy Tail 2 will be released in February 2025 at the latest, the game will be released ''this winter'' and that means December this year, or January/February 2025 at the latest, so, if the calendar says February 15, 2025 (using a random day as an example) and by then we still don't have an announcement about Blue Reflection, then that will be enough to say, without a doubt, yes, Blue Reflection (in general) is dead. Obviously this is without even considering the possibility (fact?) that there are several development teams in Gust and they don't just develop one game, if we still don't have something in february next year, then, even more reason to think that the franchise is dead...man, what a long comment.
>>1544471I don't want Blue Reflection to die yet.
>>1544471Of course Gust isn't just having one team. It's been like that for a while.TK put a lot of other "teams" inside of Gust.
>>1548524Fascinating. It doesn't change the fact that the franchise has an uncertain future after the failure of Blue Reflection Sun. It doesn't matter if Blue Reflection Sun made money or not, the game made money, how much who knows but it wasn't something that made Gust and/or DMM games lose money (really, it was a game with a shoestring budget, like the other Blue Reflection games and especially the first one...maybe), even so, it was a game that lasted around 18 months or a year and a half, and if there is something that MapleStory, Team Fortress 2, Genshin Impact and other free to play games have proven...is that less than 2 years for a game like that is very little time. Don't hold your breath for a new Blue Reflection game...or anything to be honest.
>NetEase and Tencent are struggling
>>1554724That's neither here nor there, unless NetEase or Tencent owns DMM Games or something...if that isn't the case, they are irrelevant when it comes to the Blue Reflection IP and the (more or less) failure of Blue Reflection Sun.
>>1555062Yes, but still
Just let it die
>>1548898The original game seems to have done well but their attempts at turning it into a big multimedia franchise with more mainstream appeal crashed and burned. Many such cases.
>>1561087Would it have done better had it not been for the censorship?
>>1561087Based chinksults
>>1563221The anime flopped too.
Now that BR is ded will HBR take its place?https://heavenburnsred.yo-star.com/
>>1566946Pantsu status?
>>1561087I like how the troon does not say "adding men" in jap, but about liking men. don't know what the rant is about with the curry men.>mainstream appealcrazy narrative sister
Why do yuri fans hate men so much?
>>1573404It's self hatred. A lot of the deranged ones are trannies.
>>1574887>tranniesMeds
Imagine if they end up reviving BRS to shill NFTs. It would be a fate worse than death.
>>1574887Not necessarily trannies, but self hatred yes.
>>1573404Let me compare it to this; if you had a game that sold itself by having lolis, people wouldn't be that interested in the hags in it, right? Then, if you switched pace so it was just hags down the line, everyone who came for the lolis wouldn't want to stick around. Neither one is better or worse than the other, but like water and oil, you can sell both in the same barrel (game franchise) and hope it all somehow works out
>>1581279It's the thing I noticed. The most vocal male-hating yuri fans are themselves male. Most female yuri fans, including the actual creators of the genre itself, are fine with men.
I wonder how many people who hated the male sensei in Lapis Re:Lights or BRS hated Yuu. I imagine not many.
>BRS hated Yuu
>Checked out the final boss fight vid on yt>They really yuri'd Shiho out with AleshiaDamn, they really just blueballed the MC out of that last battle confession and kiss. With best girl Shiho too, at that. Just how pissed were the people at GUST to even decide to pull this off, lmao
>>1585493I was asking how likely is it that the people who had issues with the male self-insert (i.e. sensei) in BRS had problems with Yuu from Love Live. I imagine not so much.
>>1585351>>1587860As someone who prefers games with male self-inserts, I respect games with female self-inserts like the Love Live games way more than games that leave it ambiguous. At least the former type makes its target audience clear from the outset.
>>1586139explain further
>>1588415But seriously, I really don't get why the same people who have a problem with male self-inserts specifically are almost always just fine with female self-inserts. Meanwhile those who don't like female self-inserts tend to dislike self-inserts in general regardless of sex.
>>1595024They're cuter
Hachinai is also kicking the bucket
>still no Blue Reflection franchise news
>>1599582Give it another 5 years. Trust the plan.
>>1599582>IP gets acquired by gook publisher>turn it into harem foreverWould be pretty funny.
>>1595024Every jrpg thread I've ever seen has been the opposite. Most of them can't even have adult male mcs for the same reasons they can't have female mcs.
>>1602180Spotted the incel. Men have been playing as women, and women have been playing as men, since the dawn of gender choices in video games, and they were never assumed to be trans. You got influenced by too much alt-right material.
>>1602990"play" is not self insertion. the latter is what deranged yuritroons like you are literally talking about, whilst you desperately seek cover from under normalfags who play females to catfish for mmo items.
>>1603710>yuritroons>troonWay to double down.
Blue Reflection would still be around if BR2 wasn't so censored.
I just watched the blue reflection anime after playing the first game.I haven't played the second game yet but after reading the comments it feels like they didn't know what they were doing with this franchise. And the anime was kind of all over the place too, I didn't hate it but it felt sloppy. I wish the BDs didn't get cancelled.
>>1609246Why did /a/ love the anime then?
I guess Blue Reflection is really never coming back.
Blue Reflection deserved so much better
Blue Reflection girls owe me sex.
I miss it so much guys.
>>1615431You'll be happy and own nothing.When will you learn?
If the anime had pantsu, would it have been received better?
>>1622113Pantyshots? Who knows, considering the fact that Blue Reflection Ray tries to have an emotional story and what not (like the first game and even more so than the other two games), maybe people would consider the presence of ''pantsu'' as a distraction or something that doesn't make the series better. That said, there is *very* rare and unknown official art of Blue Reflection Ray of some characters in underwera, I had to go through Google images for several minutes to find this image. The images can be found in moca-news.net and maybe they were part of pre-orders, that typical thing of ''pre-order this product here and you'll get an exclusive poster'' or something. Who knows if those images of Blue Reflection Ray characters in underwear genuinely saw the light of day in an art book or poster...In any case, this dead and irrelevant thread is about Blue Reflection Sun, not Blue Reflection in general, and if there is something that Blue Reflection Sun showed us...is that ''pantsu'' and fanservice in general isn't enough to save a game or anime, the game or anime also has to be decent (at least) and not be something that alienates the fans in the case of Blue Reflection Sun.
The other image of Blue Reflection Ray characters in underwear. Blue Reflection Sun barely has official art like this.Anyway, Blue Reflection in general is dead...probably. Don't expect a new game in the near future, not before the release of the next two Atelier games at least.
>>1622484Do you have any idea why /a/ loved BR Ray so much when even the game fans hated it? Seriously, go to the BR Ray threads on /a/ and they actually liked the anime, and interestingly most of them were anime-onlies.
>>1623092>game fans hated itCitation needed
>>1623135Places like Reddit and Twitter. Those who played the game here on /vmg/ and watched the anime also didn't like the anime.
>>1610359>/a/ has shit tastecolor me shocked
Heavens burns red still going strong and even got a en release, Should have created a new generic harem IP
>>1627589HBR is carried by Maeda, not yuri. Considering his fanbase the game would've been more popular with a male self insert anyway.
>>1627596Don't care about the writer and his keySHIT. I'm just here to spit on fags who turned a yuri show into a generic harem
The franchise wouldve be better if the games werent terribly censored and the anime wouldve been that shit. Seriously it was the the worst anime Ive ever seen and I loved the first two games
>>1627596Local idiot claims to be expert after only discovering something after its recent EN release.
>>1629553Maeda's entire shtick is straight romance nakiges, newfag retard.
>>1629720That's not the part that makes you retarded
>>1629760Then what is?
>>1440473source?
>>1629829>https://www.famitsu.com/news/202211/25282762.html"I actually tried to have a male protagonist in the first game at one point too""I didn't wanted to do a 'world with only girls' in the first game. In Sun I will return to the start and properly depict males as well. This time the player will firmly identify with the avatar that is the male protagonist, and feel that they are truly him""He is a 'visitor'. I want the player to come in from outside into this world""Since the girls are buddies with each other, the "yuri" feeling the fans expect will be there too.""The existing fans might ask 'why is a male in this beautiful world?', and I understand the feeling. But, I want them to properly read the story, and the content will satisfy their expectations. They will understand that this uncomfortable feeling is neccesary to BR Sun""We paid attention so the player won't think 'this is wrong', though he has his own personality... where the player wants him to be cool, he is. His heroic characteristics are a noteworthy part of the game"
>>1630239quote the jp text next time lol
>>1630239Letting Mel do anything other than character design is a mistake.
>>1630239I never understood the butthurt for a self-insert considering how male gazey/sexualized BR1 was.
>>1630379Probably because you're suffering from terminal twitter brain
>>1630421You mean he wasn't widely hated?
>>1629550And yet for some reason, /a/ LOVED the anime. I'm not joking: look up "Blue Reflection Ray" on Desuarchive and the threads were largely positive AND also very active. Indeed I'm almost certain that /a/ was one of the only if not the only place on Earth that liked the anime.
>>1630379You think Mahoako or Akebi wouldn't lose 99% of it's fanbase if it turned into haremshit
>>1630379BR was an established franchise about girl drama and feelings. It wasn't even a romance series, mostly just slice of life bullshit. Should have started a new IP.
Did this game ever have sticker packs for LINE or similar? A lot of mobile games do but I couldn't find anything.
>>1630239>Since the girls are buddies with each other, the "yuri" feeling the fans expect will be there too."I don't think Mel understand what yuri is >But, I want them to properly read the story, and the content will satisfy their expectations. They will understand that this uncomfortable feeling is neccesary to BR Sun">so did the content satisfied you guys ? was male MC really neccesary ?
>>1630379This is an odd mental exercise, but imagine a series that's just m/F, but part way through yaoi starts to become the main focus. For people that really like Yuri, a dude suddenly appearing is essentially the same thing
>>1635022It's odd indeed. I don't see how it applies in this case.
>>1635022From what I've seen, yuri fans tend to be a lot more vicious about such things than het fans though. Like if a het series showed yuri then most fans won't actually mind, but if a yuri series gets het then things go down the toilet. It seems to be a yuri thing specifically too since even yaoi fans tend to have no issue with women or het showing up in their stuff, with the exception of strong fujos. No idea why.
>>1635042Because you get plenty of pandering and everytime a male lead is injected into a Yuri or Yuri subtext game it's the most inoffensive male lead who sucks the air out of the romance.
>>1627999>>1635032Looks like subreddit mods deleted the text of the post. You can check saved snapshot here - https://web.archive.org/web/20241002175258/https://www.reddit.com/r/BlueReflection/comments/1cx8bfj/unofficial_blue_reflection_sun_offline_version/I'd also add this note to the post itself but I bet they would also remove it at some point later. Well, it's going to be lost completely soon, no one will recall it one year later (for better or worse). Also, I am quite surprised that this thread is still kept alive, though I guess it's close to bump limit.
>>1637812I mean, there's a difference between having a male lead and having a male character. I can get not liking the former, but I have seen yuri fans hate even the latter. Like you can't have a male supporting character showing up onscreen for five seconds without them going apeshit.
>>1638255Males who are supporting characters aren't hated. Males who force themselves into a love triangle are hated. What male side character in a yuri show is hated?
>>1639017Is Nanoha a yuri show? Some fans hate Yuno and S1/S2 Chrono
>>1639114>implying yuuna nanoha wasn't heavily teasedEven chrono had a crush on nanoha plus he was an asshole
>>1639433Fair and S1 wasn't full "these girls sleep together and adopted some kids together"
>>1639017>Males who are supporting characters aren't hated.You would be surprised, especially if you go to /a/, /e/, or Dynasty Scans. I mean, why else do males with faces not show up in Love Live unless they're kids or overseas? They won't even show dads' faces.>What male side character in a yuri show is hated?Kai from Aquatope. Part of it was due to a het shitposter, but even without him people on /a/ and elsewhere hated him as if he was the second coming of Satan. If you include yuri-adjacent shows then /a/ also hates Shoe and Majima.
>>1639698To add context, anons hated Majima even before that one baiter (possibly also the Kaifag) showed up. In fact I'm certain part of the reason he latched on to Majima was because anons hate him.
I know this from experience: I have interacted with multiple anons who said they would rather not have any males in their yuri media, not even as supporting characters. They claim they're traumatized. Ironically all of the ones I asked are males themselves, female yuri fans and actual lesbian yuri fans seem to be more okay with male characters than male fans.
Males don't belong in yuri simple as. Either the male is a love interest that gets cucked like Guel or needs to be asexual like Maki. Men and women can't be friends. That's why haremshit never have any other relevant males they used to have the comic loser best friend but they even removed that nowadays.
>>1640474Sounds like you're from a reverse /r9k/.>>1640474>Males in yuri bad>Females in yaoi goodExplain this double standard then?
>>1640675I know nothing about yaoi but who said women in yaoi is good? Did you not see what happened to love and deep space and how they banned fujos. I assume otomefags and fujos hate each other like yurifags and waifufags
>>1640707>who said women in yaoi is goodAll those women who self-insert as characters like Miho and Gou and how they're tolerated? I mean, notice how much more common it is for women to show up in yaoi than men do in yuri.
>>1640675Gynocentrism. It's always gynocentrism. Women are always free to enter men's spaces but men are never welcome in women's spaces.
>>1640995Uhh what about trannies?
>>1640996Meds
>>1640995The thing is, it's virtually always the *male* yuri fans who hate seeing males lf any kind in yuri. The female fans don't mind, including the actual lesbians who originally created the yuri genre in the first place. Notice how yuri series targeted towards lesbians, or those targeted towards general audiences, have no issues showing males, yet yuri series targeted towards males, particularly male otaku, or even more specifically male CGDCT fans, have males Thanos snapped from the face of the Earth.
>>1641018CGDCT yuribait =/ yuriCGDCT is aimed at both purtiyfag waifufags, That's the stuff like love live and bocchi. Yurifags just adopted it. Yuri usually has males in it.
>>1641018Yes, many simps like them perpetuate gynocentrism far more than anyone else does.
>>1641024Explain /a/'s hatred of males then. I am asking about /a/.
Wouldn't it be funny if this thread ends up lasting longer than the actual game itself
Part of hating males in Yuri franchise is on the old days always a guy was used to create NTR drama or to ruin the relationship this hasn't being the case lately, and you got liked male characters in some Yuri stuff like that dude from bloom into you but for the longest time besides being family members males were done as rivals or to ruin it like from kannazuki no miko is really the main reason.
>>1643328Then how come it is mostly male fans, not female fans, who hate males? Notice how yuri made for actual lesbians, or for women in general, don't have issues with showing males. It's male-targeted yuri where males are unobtanium.
How do we save Gust?
Don't care. Male love interests in a yuri series makes troons seethe so therefore they are good
>>1647360Least homosexual yuri malder
>>1647360>troonsMeds
>>1647351Blue Reflection 3 featuring passionate on-screen kissing between girls non-consensually
I don't actually remember the last time I've seen a female yuri fan hate males. It's virtually always been the male ones surprisingly.
>>1634929>I don't think Mel understand what yuri isMel admitted it in a message on Twitter after the gacha EoShttps://www.reddit.com/r/BlueReflection/comments/1btvopf/mels_tweets_reflecting_on_br/
>>1650003Makes sense the """yuri""" was trash all I remember is a scene where you swapped panties with one of the girls. I don't even remember the mc having a love interest unless you count those two girls that die(?) at the end
>>1650242Blue Reflection is not a yuri game. Yes, Shihori wants to swap panties with Hinako and she *might* be in love with the protagonist, but Hinako isn't in love with Shihori and she doesn't like Shihori's actions (the fact that Shihori looks at her panties without her consent for example). In the case of Yuzu and Lime they aren't Hinako's love interest and, well, spoiler that isn't really a spoiler at this point...they were already dead, and in Blue Reflection: Second Light they are alive and well. Perhaps at the end of the first game Yuzu and Lime return to the common but they don't go to heaven or the afterlife or whatever, in any case, they appear in the sequel too.I don't know the extent of Mel Kishida's involvement with Blue Reflection: Second Light but only the sequel is a genuine yuri game (like other games developed by Gust), not the first game and especially Blue Reflection Sun, where maybe the closest thing to yuri is Shiho Kasuga kissing a girl...maybe? If that scene is real, I haven't seen it.
>>1643961>Then how come it is mostly male fans, not female fans>>1649897>I don't actually remember the last time I've seen a female yuri fan hate malesSince when ?cuz from what i've seen lesbian who consume yuri not only hate men in yuri but also hate men's who are into yuri are you guys talking out off ass or did i miss something ?
>>1643961I don't know where you get your numbers but a lot of yuri is consumed by women in Japan, iirc a fan meeting of Valkyrie drive was mostly women when that franchise was alive
>>1652976I didn't say that most yuri fans aren't women. I said that most yuri fans *who dislike males showing up* aren't women.
>>1647817>Blue Reflection 3Dude. That was Sun. Theres no way to save this franchise
