2.5 anniversary is underway. Free rolls, selection tickets, 9000 quartz. Best time to start playing
Not available in my region:(
It's been a while since I last did anything other than a free pull...
The SA was free this week, did 1m at 134-20 without mind's eye even. Better do it now, because the next two weeks seem more challenging. Too bad the SA badge is disabled, could have farmed 1m for everyone.Also, don't forget to claim the serial code on the HBR website for a free 10-pull.Official tweet:https://x.com/heavenburnsred/status/1814599478995001489
>>1523789I wouldn't say it's THAT easy, due to two damage down mods, which automatically lower the potential score, but it's easy in the sense that you can run fairly greedy comps.But dark weak, single target... the (I'm pretty sure still) strongest functional SA team in the game just eats that alive.
>>152378910 S dupe ticket
The summer 31A cards and 31F cards are actually really strong this time. Too bad they didn't change anything else about the mode. But at least there'll be a pretty big shakeup for what the optimal deck is going to be
https://x.com/heavenburnsred/status/1816721597077815348How are WFS so incompetent at programming
For fucks sake, why tease us after so long with a global release and not even give a date. It could still be another 6 months to a year.
I wonder if they ever plan to give big defense down to literally fucking anyone else, it's been almost a year since Isuzu, how is it that scarce.>>1525032They're still drip-feeding character profiles, and they're only at 31B, so I have no expectations at all.
>>1525044Just buff onsen Isuzu. She is obviously too weak considering people forgot about her debuffs and as such WFS never cared about creating alternatives.Make it last 2 turns and add big fragile on top. Easy. THEN people will not forget about her.
>>1525097I just don't get it. DP defense down is understandable, it's fairly unique and also completely fucks over a whole class, they're going to be very careful with it. But big defense downs are basically the same shit as attack up/big attack up. There are around 6-8 buffers that have big attack ups either on ults or normal skills, and also at least like 8 units who can self-buff it, it's not rare at all. So what happened with the big defense downs? What's even the issue?
>>1525127They probably went perma def down instead..
>>1525127Gotta look forward to the next style re-balance, which will probably happen on the 3rd anniversary or so.Honestly, debuffer YunYun would benefit from a large def down, since that style was basically dead on release.
>>1525268It's not THAT bad. One of the best rush styles vs single target enemies. (i.e. very useful vs lvl 4 orb boss')Compared to what was actually buffed, i.e. christmas Bungo (as unimportant as that buff was) you can definitely use Yunyun. You still won't be using Bungo though. Very unlikely at least.There are a lot of random ass styles that got unimportant buffs, and a lot of really shit styles getting nothing. I don't really think it'll ever be truly important. Most of the time it's just conceptional flaws. Inori's is a good example. It's the right idea, to give her ult 400% piercing critical, but her self buff gives herself crit-rate and the charge, so you now waste most of this buff, but still need it unless you happen to run Yanagi. At least you can ignore the crit-rate and just auto attack I suppose. But even with all of that she needs a hit-buff to compete, and that makes it ugly. Most elements either have chars with that built in (fire, ice for aoe purpose), or can't hit buff her (dark and light hit buffs require the style to be that), or simply have weakness creation which is a pretty big additional damage only that element benefits of (dark and thunder). Thunder in particular also has a token user, who can heal you until she attacks and with max tokens has barely worse base power vs. HP.Anyways, do they actually have a site, where they show what they buff? HBR quest isn't very useful for that. Tower buffed skills are considered new, but buffs are "invincible" in the db.
>>1525757I simply watched the anniv stream, but there is also a compilation here:https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/628243
>>1525757>Compared to what was actually buffed, i.e. christmas BungoI'm a little confused that Carole was the only SS1 they buffed. SS1s should be fixed first because every new style can use their ults, making random alts that nobody wants to use a little better doesn't do anything. You made Irene SS1 so amazing, maybe go back and fix Yuki and Hisame too? Megumi's SS1 literally needs to be reworked if they don't plan to buff/change stuns.
Oh cool, the 1000 day login reward is actually 1000 quartz.
Finding out that Arts battle has a cap of 999 on stats and that you get a high score by farming lower areas through looping Tama and Higuchi rather than going as far as you can has somehow lowered my opinion of the mode even more.
Is Yostar also publishing a PC version of the game for the global servers?
>>1527207praying for this. this is a game that deserves to be played with headphones.
It has been done. Wonder how far they're going to inflate form 2's hp
>>1527000There's a reason nobody likes that grindy mode. I'm considering just ignoring it going forward. It is simply not fun.
>>1527208Anon just buy a 5 dollar adapter for your applepad.
Tips for the Desert Dendron hard mode? I feel like I don't have the SSes for it and I can't resist its endless AOE output for very long.
>>1527361I use pic. Aoi is there for catching ST and guarding against the bigger nukes (look at its attack pattern on hbr quest), Tsukasa gets rid of the sandstorm turn 2 (thus the aggro so she doesn't get killed right there, because she will be likely 1 dp), her tower upgraded fire field costs only 10.After a few turns this stabilizes. Without boosts, my Aina can get messed up when worm rolls the stronger attack turn 3, but that's turn 3. If I lose that coinflip I'd just reset. All other anger wedges are caught by Aoi ult.Team 2 just immediately OD3 and kills the enemy. Mari uses ice field, and the two debuffers their ult, then the other 3 use their ults 2 times each, and on the final turn the two debuffers ult a second time and Mari kills.You obviously can't fully replicate the teams, but you can maybe build on it. A few key styles you have, at least when it comes to living without issues.
>>1527317>having an itoddler devicecome on now
>>1527361https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMGr-Pjr890I copied this one because it had the lowest requirements by far even though I have no Diner Koju or Ice Adel. Basically, just dump everything into DP since using the buffs will almost 100% put you over border anyways. Then resist going all in and just field double healer on both teams and you can actually last very long. Although it looks like you have both so I guess you don't have to struggle as much unless you're doing a no buff run.For people without you can still get by because he has to 4 tap it and has 2 almost dead slots. Yunyun only for def down and Aina only for fragile. Just replace Adel with another blaster and as long as you have some form of meta support you should do enough damage to 2/3 tap it, thus needing less OD gain in the first place too.
>>1527399Thanks, that did the trick. >team 1: Akari + Aoi + Tama + Tsukasa + Kura + SharoBeing able to change the zone 1 turn earlier than with Iroha was nice, but most importantly I had no idea I had the luxury to do so because I greatly underestimated Akari's damage output, mainly because Kanata was embarrassingly bad for me in comparison even when charged.>team 2: Seika + Bungo + Adel + Mari + Seira + MiyaGiven my lack of options in terms of Mind's Eye I gambled on Bungo not missing. Could've just as easily brought anyone else because Adel still dealt 140m and just needed a tiny boost to get me across the finish line.The most important thing for me is that I had no idea the sandstorm acts exactly like poison and therefore cannot take you below 1 DP (and it doesn't even remove invincibility charges), and that the ST attacks are 1-hit so you can strategically rotate. Didn't even need to OD3 immediately with the second team, I just took my time to set everything up before popping it.
Regarding Sharo2, how come she's used in thunder lineups even against thunder weak bosses? The Fragile is nice, but I thought the resistance reset part of her ult also got rid of existing thunder weaknesses?
>>1527550No, it doesn't just add an empty weakness or sets it to a certain number, it adds like 60/120% on top of the weakness even if it already exists. The way they implemented weakness removal is one of the most retarded things they've ever done, it was the first time I really realized they were completely clueless.
>>1527550She decreases their thunder res further. It's not really a reset. The wording on her ult is just weird because resistance is used for both literally resisting something and the stat. They should've worded the second part as increasing thunder weakness instead. Plus its eternal, stacks twice, she has thunder def down, fragile, 31X, and all that shebang.
Whoever voted Summer Tsukasa into the top 30 I really hope you roll her and know that I hate you.
>>1527361Also still not sure who to spend the SS1 freebie ticket on. Barely pulled anything new since making this image, just Inori2 and dupes for Mari2 and Miya2.
>>1528591Because it was the first style that was somehow coomer pandering, part of the fanbase has a weird attachment to it. It also doesn't help that they give everyone 3 votes, so instead of having to choose one style they really want to be there, people can just add random shit.
>>1527207If they do, I hope that they don't delist/region lock the JP version. Just make a different listing if needed. Also, I know this gets said all the time when games have English versions announced, but I'm really not looking forward to the /u/ and /vg/ schizos invading the threads like they always do for anything remotely yuri related.
>>1530435Surely they aren't juvenile enough to play a game filled with what they don't like and then complain about it.
Coming home from the desert mission on 4.2 day 7 is so comfy.I missed this place
I did not expect the event story to go where it did but I like it.
>>1533066I thought the execution was extremely sloppy and it's another case of "you'll have to wait for the payoff in a future story chapter which who knows when will come out". Between Irene and Miya (unless it was a joke event) I'm sick of these setup events in general because of that uncertain and belated promise. Other than that I guess it did change my perception of the 4.2 ending. I went from thinking that Megumi is pretty much immune to death since she has to meet them again to realizing that 4.2 was her final farewell to the both of them. This interpretation does make Megumi's choice way more impactful, but I feel like I would've caught onto this reading had it always meant to be that way. But in either case Megumin stocks plummet while Tama stonks rise to the moon. Which is interesting I guess
The new game mode is just more dungeons... again...Nanamin is on a hoverbike... and she just slowly hovers behind you...
Looks like leaving vsync on now speeds up my homescreen character. Did they only test this on a 60Hz monitor?
Nanamin has a cool new outfit. Karen-chan got Special1 and Special2 but lost Shout. I don't remember them ever deleting expressions before.
Finally got Yunyun1 from the freebies. Jesus, multi hits are broken.
Every time I see snow white Yuki on a banner, I get the feeling that dark has been scammed out of having a field.
>>1536536You can think of it in another way as well. If dark actually needs a buff remover, then you get a free field on top.Everyone else gets just a brick.I really want that style...
Do the new SS tickets have an expiration date? And is this all we'll get in terms of options? I can't check right now, but I still have 20 left and there's nothing for me to spend them on.
>>>>1536536That dark Yuki makes hard Skullfeather much easier, since you can get rid of all attack & def boosts.Also the 8-turn +30% skill damage from her ult/ability stacks twice on top of regular skill buffs.I try to use her frequently, because of that mechanic, but she rarely gets the chance to shine.
>>1536573I don't think they expire. Current assumptions are that they'll rotate which SS1s are available each time this mode runs.
>play dark without blunt unitsNo. These SA's are sometimes so weird. The blunt res is hurting what's supposed to be shilled more than it helps. Plus Ruka's rival is Adel anyways, not anything else.Tama having anti virus now, is pretty damn good though.
>>1536536Speaking of fields, I wonder what's in store for this mechanic. There's only the ice big field left, they can also do big non-elemental or small universal if they want, but that's it. However, there's no way they will just stop with it there. Super big field? Non-elemental utility fields that stack with the elemental ones and provide some buff or debuff instead of just a damage increase? Offensive fields? Then Megumi got the field passive, does that mean she will get another field? It would be very odd to give her a transferable field buff like that and then never use it again for a new style.
Finally got over 1m score. Could go a bit higher, but I already spent way too much time on this.Did a weird strategy with softening on both Karen and Yuina.
>>1537333What's Yunyun even doing there? You have the hit buff on Tsukasa, the big enhance on Tama. You could probably do the same but much more safe with a real defensive option.Also just in case you don't know, debuffs from non debuffers are a LOT worse due to lacking the passive style upgrade that gives 25% better debuffs. Can still be okay to do, but ideally you put that on a real debuffer if they have the SP.
I feel like I'm missing out a lot by not having Bunnykasa and Sharo SS2, at least for hidden boss and 1M SA.Maybe I should roll for the next adds weakness element .
>>1537544>Also just in case you don't know, debuffs from non debuffers are a LOT worseDebuffs are also surprisingly stat demanding compared to buffs. It's not the case with Yunyun because she has big brain, but attackers with debuffs like king Ruka sometimes don't even hit the stat border to get the higher number.
>>1537544Yeah, I usually enjoy figuring out a repeatable strategy, but I was getting impatient so I started brute forcing. Not pretty at all with redundant buffs, but it got the job done.I used Yunyun's 7sp large buff + ult, because Tama was constantly healing the virus + mind's eye.I used Karen to break and max out destruction in one turn. I used softening, because Yuina had some spare SP at that point. Need to wait for OD/Tama's SP and anyone else was out of SP basically. Honestly, to anyone seeing this team, don't copy it, it's a mess. There are more reliable solutions out there.Also, is an added elemental weakness worse than one that's already present?
>>1537592Yeah, the stats are an issue. Thinking about tackling the extra boss' in the new mode, but the border is really high. (649/673) and while I get something like 140 as a bonus, using a LB 0 debuffer will probably not do a lot. I'm frankly not sure.Thought about Yunyun (thunder), Aoi (maid, damage, invincibility), Kozue (burger, for stats), Isuzu (onsen, because high DP), Sharo (vampire, all things debuff), Tama (suit, mind eye). Sharo is lb0, so I have no idea what she'd do. Even with the Kozue and bike extra stats, lb0 is well below the border. Heck, I'm not even sure if Isuzu with her lb3 is above it. I've also never figured out if Kozue's buff even buffs all stats. The card battle shit never made me feel like I actually get defensive stats, so that might be a big issue with Aoi...I don't want to grind the damn bike.
>>1537863So yeah, that works. If you have a fairly strong maid Aoi (mine has about 540 vit, with all accessories and such fully focused on providing as much as possible), you can cheese this fight. Ideally with Kozue due to the extra 50 stats. Get od3 vs trash enemies, get 20 sp, and then you perma block with Aoi until you have buffed, the proceed to OD and debuff + kill.Don't know where this stops working, I definitely had quite a bit of overkill, but due to how DP works, and how Aoi's damage spread is (60% damage on the third hit), it's hard to say how hard you really need to hit.
Hi!
Finally killed the hidden boss in miya's event and the worm, thanks rengeki adel.Tried the last one but seems like I won't be able to clear it unless I lb3 more styles.
>>1543496that sucks
Summer is almost over
>>1543820me on the right
>>1543496sex
Soon...
God damn it Aoi. Fuck... fuck... literally just sobbing my eyes out.
Tsukasa: Sadness2, Shout
I rerolled a few accounts with those 120 rolls and all, I think this is probably the best one and should have everything I need for now?
>>1547163Hey sister! Are you new? That's pretty decent, not to mention that you get an okay ish attacker for free later on.
>>1547163Try looking for ones with one of thesehttps://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/577125https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/547011https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/603245https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/612873https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/478836I would also see if you have an account with https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/582607who is currently the most meta support that you can slap into any team. While the start you have is pretty good, especially since unison Yuina is going to be very rare to come by and you have a def scaling attacker plus Mari, it's too "fair". If you want to work with the game's bullshit then it's a pretty good start, but unless you toss some cash or get lucky when they release an ice weakness overwrite you're going to get hard stuck eventually on off-elements. Without weakness overwrite through Sharo or Tsukasa, it's going to be a pain in the ass to build multiple teams and lb the attacker. 貫通crit plus a meta support, free Yunyun from the event, is a way to bypass this that doesn't scale up to the hardest bosses, but will carry you through everything else basically while Sharo and Tsukasa means you can put resources into only building one team. They claim they're working on having people only need to build 1 main team and then slowly work on the others, but only 2 elements have weakness overwrite so far.
>>1547259Umm... Suminasen, engurishu pureasu
>>1547333Just ignore this metaslave autist when he starts sperging like that.
Not that anon but I could care less about meta, I'm fluent in JP and like the story and certain characters based upon my story progress, and that's all I care about.
>ok so how do we fix breakers? any ideas?>uhhh let's make this breaker a debuffer, but worse than if she was just a debuffer and not a breaker.Good one wfs.
>>1547460If they rerolled a few accounts for 12 days clearly they care at least a little about meta and getting a good start. Is it really metaslaving to tell people starting with the equivalent of Castoria/Oberon is going to make their life way easier?
>>1547653>rerolling this game Sounds to me like it's a retard that knows nothing about Key/Visual Arts.
May I introduce you my thunder team.This SA hurts, so a single sustain isn't doable. I'm too greedy to give my Sharo 2 LB to make her SA ready, so this had to do. Aoi's damage was actually needed, I was missing a few million.
Aren't score attacks supposed to shill newly released styles? Why did they put the "remove the fucking field" gimmick on this one when we had a fielder last month?
>>1547778It's for the two newest styles, yeah. Megumi is already old and busted, sorry. It's kinda funny though. Here have new Megumi who's basically the same as the fire one, but aoe, less compatible with thunder but a PASSIVE that gives her strong fields permanent uptime!Btw, next score attack has the enemy remove your field anyways.
>>1547836I meant it in an opposite way though. The boss is MUCH weaker if you remove their field and they can't recast it again if you break them early, so Megumi is actually good against it as a fielder/break helper. Or you can use the ancient release style Higuchi as usual. Meanwhile, Maki doesn't do shit to fields, she can't interact with this gimmick.
>>1547845Probably just a mistake on the AI script. The fight feels generally easier past breaking. I was sure it'd just remove it again, but dark doesn't really do fields anyways.
the fuck is a field bruhjust clicc that attack button it aint rocket science
Yeah, it's weird that 91-120 recasts the fire field after breaking, but 121+ doesn't.I highly recommend getting SS1 Aoi from the new exchange shop for this SA, if you don't have her already. Thanks to that, I only needed to heal once in the entire fight. Might be doable even with the self-aid orb skill heal.Debuff into OD1 and break with Megumi. Get 400% destruction and buff while waiting on OD2, then de-/buff and kill.Also, my Aoi is lb2 here, so there is no token damage boost from the lb3 upgrade.The attack on turn 2 is tankable with weaken power (on Byakko in my team).
do i get fubuki or iroha
>>1548768uhhh nyes
English version when?
>>1548768If you have no real preference char wise:Maria: If she ever gets a tower upgrade, she could be quite good to have. Solid style, but way too slow token generation that however gets fixed with her alt (you can obviously use that style with the ice ult). Can both heal and slam thanks to her offense being SP0. People tend to not use her in ice anymore, but none of the other damage dealers there can also heal.Vritika: This style has her base heal (10 cost, sp+, heals + 1 turn def up), and if she ever gets a really good style, you need this. Right now.. nothing. Tower upgrade could be interesting as well.Maru: ShitFubuki: If you don't have dark Aina, she's your "dark" support that isn't dark and as such works badly with Tsukasa. She actually debuffs better than Aina vs. single target, but her OD generation is poop and she needs a lot more SP than Aina for that as well.Iroha: Just a dark field, outdated as hell. Needs a second SS.Kura: Not needed with suit Karen, otherwise kinda okay.Yukki: If she'd be more meta, this style would be nice enough for dungeon purpose. Alas.
>>1548997I hope Yostar decides not to do it halfway through it. Fuck EOPs, fuck the English mobile gaming community. This game's for KEYtards, the originals of my generation, gen Y. Those basic bitch pieces of shit in the gaming generals on /vg/ would do the world a favor if they line themselves up to be shot against the wall. They're soulless, materialistic, hedonistic. Any of Key's titles and stories and characters are wasted on those mentally ill freaks who sold out every last shred of humanity that they had and replaced it with hopelessness and ruin.
>>1549116Congratulations, or I'm sorry that happened to you.
>>1549122Shut the fuck up retard. You don't have any clue about how Keytards were treated by /a/ or related sub groups like Commie. Seeing channers like you desperate for their game in 2024 just pisses me off. Fuck you.
>>1549124I'm sorry that happened to you. Congratulations.
>>1549126Not only that but you're desperate for a Key mostly-VN semi-game because you want to tryhard in it and not for any other reason. Makes me laugh. Imagine crawling back to the people you laughed at and begging for an English release. Suck my cock dude.
So what were you doing in the last 14 years since you Commie faggots laughed at me for liking Little Busters? Clearly not learning Japanese since here I am, able to read and enjoy Heaven Burns Red in 2024 while you're licking at my feet and begging for TL gibs.
>>1549127>>1549129Congratulations and I'm sorry that happened to you.
>>1549131Thanks bro, a win is a win. Appreciate the grats.
>>1549116Anon.. you are more mentally ill than most people on /vg/. Relax.
>>1549148nta but you seem more mentally ill than that guy since you're telling someone who literally already chilled out in the post just before yours to relax lol
>>1549148Well he's mentally sound enough to understand that nobody with sense would want to talk with /vg/ about a game like this.
>>1549165Right, sure. Calmed down. Have you now.
>>1548768You're just gambling on who gets the better SS2. I'd put my bets on Iroha since Yuki's field is pretty cope if you're not dispelling anything, isn't an actual debuffer, and has 0 utility outside it. Fubuki is still the highest potential damage on st for dark but you need so much SP and she has a lot of overlap with Megu. So even if Fubuki gets her SS2 you're going to be even more SP hungry, whereas Iroha has a good chance of replacing Yuki if they don't toss her into a different element.
I still find it so weird, how other units have gimmicks like "you need to have charge or you don't get some of your basic mechanics" or "you can only use the full effects of your ult the first time and then some effects are gone" and then 31X can just pull 10+ imaginary SP out of their ass at any given moment. And 31A don't even have a gimmick, their only special thing is big field, but that's something only a few styles in the game will have, so most of their styles just have nothing instead.
in this game the story is deep but not gameplay so idk why you think you have to go all geeky for it lolall this stuff you write books about in this thread is obvious to anyone with a brain
>>1549599That's not true. I've played for years and still don't know what fields are.
>>1547333>>1548278>>1548834>>1549599I don't know why you feel the need to proclaim that you're retarded every time someone talks about gameplay, but you can keep it to yourself, we already got it.
>>1549812Quoted the wrong post, my bad. It was meant for >>1549601.
man, that double battle with those worms where you have to use different teams after skullfeather iced the aegis chains really sucks, but I'm (still) too proud to use that easier battle function.In general it got a lot harder in 4.2 to the point where I had to start looking up what is beyond the midbosses to see if it is worth it.I've repeatedly seen people saying that the devs lost their teeth after that difficulty bump at the end of chapter 3, you guys lied to me
>>1554228>I've repeatedly seen people saying that the devs lost their teeth after that difficulty bump at the end of chapter 3, you guys lied to meYou're playing the nerfed version of the chapter while being buffed as a player with level cap increases and shit, on a higher level of character power creep as well. You may think it's hard now, but you didn't experience things when they were actually trying to make it hard.
>>1554228>>1554275>hardit wasn't hard, nothing in this game is difficult. it is story centered game first, gameplay is only an afterthought but the nature of rpg is that you have to invest a little time and effort in order to be able to move forward.
any time you see some retard writing fucking paragraphs of text about "strategy" or "meta" just know it's all about one retard clout chasing and trying to look smart by stating the obvious. sad to see that kind of degeneracy here in the thread for a story focused game made by the renowned visual novel company Key, but some people are desperate to "rule" over anything even if it's just ruling over the biggest pile of dog shit within walking distance. they missed the point entirely.
>>1554421>it wasn't hard, nothing in this game is difficult.Ok then why did they nerf chapters 3 and 4 to the point where they barely resemble the original difficulty? Why were so many players filtered by chapter 4 for the longest time that the completion rate was so low? Bro hasn't even been through the days of takohell and thinks we played the same game
>>1554436watch your tone with me ma'am, i been playing since the pc port was released, know that your place is as kouhai to me. but as my kouhai i will mentor u since u need it.it is natural for the gear ceiling and content difficulty to become easier as new things, gear are introduced. if something is not balance well it is adjusted, especially when it keeps players from progressing.i seen that they changed how the prism battles work too and readjust things in memories. doesn't mean people were filtered from those contents.
>>1554467lil bro isn't even a day one player and thinks he knows his shit. You're still a greenhorn compared to most of us here. Just say you were whaling and watching guides. If the game isn't difficult and poorly explained, why was the recent survey from a week ago still asking about game difficulty and player knowledge? Go back to the arena keep grinding before you start talking high and mighty like you know shit
>>1554421>>1554424They absolutely tried to make it difficult and didn't treat it as a story only game. I still vividly remember Shimoda and Kakinuma coping on streams that it was supposed to represent 31A struggle for players for overcome, until they realized how many players it actually cost them and they started backtracking. Nerfing, nerfing, and nerfing things over and over again.
>>1554516nice borrowing ur xwitter oshi's screen share my cute lil kouhai. adorable even. so you started 4 month before i did, we still start on the same year. >>1554541the story itself already did very good work of showing their 31A struggle and different between training and reality situation. they train so much and yet it goes so bad so quickly in reality. and they carry that regret. it's written well and the point expressed through screenplay and dialogue and voice act and music. it's already kamige.but shouldn't make a person reset 30 times to defeat a dungeon or boss. that's not good design.even on real war, u spend every day at the front lines fighting the enemy, ur chance of being hit or killed is 100% after enough time.
>>1554541It really says a lot when there's still no revival system, friend supports, or even a proper guide in the game. Instead their solution was to nerf after the fact. I remember when vamp Sharo came out everyone was calling her the bandaide to their balancing issue. Truthfully speaking they just need proper end game content to make the gameplay and gacha interesting, but score attack has been the same old same old, galaxy front was a massive let down, and farts battle is an embarrassment. Right now conquest has potential depending on how they implement it further. Alternatively they could just change the main story to have a difficulty slider and hand out special titles to those who beat it on the hardest mode during their very first play through. It seems like they're experimenting with that in conquest, but so far it's pointless. >>1554566>xwitter oshilil bro is still on the bird site and watching vtubers in the Lord's year of 2000+24. Don't worry I'll dox my account again when I ladder on sharts battle this month just to say how shitty it still is
>>1554584all of that doesn't matter to the true key fans from generation of kanon, clannad, planetarian lb etc. hebuban can just be text and i am fine with it and love it. but you new generation are spoiled, you need everything perfect now when you have no attention span to even justify. its wasted. their hard work and love into making this kamige is wasted because you dont care about anything but making numbers bigger so you can brag.we of key generation are not afraid to feel, and not afraid to shed tears. we are known for that. this why you are still my cute kouhai. you think you are bad ass and its something to win.maybe when you grow older. maybe when more and more you outlive your friends and loved ones, maybe on that day you will understand the truth of this kind of story. remember me then.
>>1554584>I remember when vamp Sharo came out everyone was calling her the bandaide to their balancing issue.They actually confirmed that it was intended to be like that on one of the streams this year. Which is honestly retarded when you think about it, if you can't clear the story is was officially recommended to have a vampire Halloween cosplay character from a squad that's largely irrelevant to the story.
My first ever Expert clear without using continues.
Now's your chance to earn 1m bros! The +50% HP is bugged to be -50% on 138+ and they don't plan on fixing it. Why is it even localized to 138+?
>>1554738don't wanna
>months since bunny tsukasa>still no new elemental negater in sight
>>1556234They're probably waiting for this year's Aoi, which will be their big style for the last quarter. But to be honest, they should have just made Megumi the ice one instead of doing what they did, it would have been perfect coming from ice Yuina. They should release these faster not slower, it's ridiculous that thunder had theirs almost a year ago, yet 3 elements still don't have shit.
>>1556249>They should release these faster not slowerkys
>>1556249I still don't think every element should have everything. Point is, thunder and light are the weakest elements by a long shot and NEED new characters.Not necessarily what they released recently, but you know. That's just typical HBR.
>>1556249It's funny how Shimoda promised we'd get them more often now but few months later and we still only have lightning and dark. They even added elemental suc now so there's really no excuse to delay them under the pretense of one element being able to clear everything. Next gacha is likely lightning + Ice since the worm has fire, light, and dark suc so I'm not hopeful. It'll be hilarious though if they added anti-suc to make their attempt at balancing mute
Speaking of it>checked a few new streamers who started playing the game after/during 2.5 anni>aoi + sharo thunder comp>aoi + sharo thunder comp>aoi + sharo thunder comp
>>1556927retard
>>1556927That's the meta for you. Though crit pierce is a better start nowadays
I prefer clit pierce.
OI TAMA!!!!!
I'd wear it.
Oh my god it does voices like "ギャイアグレイーイボドドドゥドオー"
Cute!
More Lightning love.
Hisame is so underwhelming in comparison to Sharo/Tsukasa. I wish they would focus on making a good unit instead of trying to force 30G ice team+unison Yuina synergy and making the ice remover worse in the process.
Why did they even announce global if it wasn't actually coming anytime soon?
Isuzu: Anger3
>>1559990Because it was a convention and they thought it was a good time. Shit always gets announced far ahead of time anyway.
>>1556927I wish more streamers had the guts to play story accurate. I know a few who do, but it's the minority.
>>1559990Fuck off EOP.
i've come to the conclusion that you retards don't discuss the story because you don't understand any of it so you just gameplayfag instead and cry over meta
>>1560103Cope, seethe and dilate, I can't wait to shit up this place with my stupid english questions that you'll have to spoon feed me. :D
>>1560108I discuss the story on /u/. I really can't remember the last time I saw an actual attempt at discussing it here.
>>1560116Thanks senpai, was wondering where to go for it.
>>1560112Nope. I unequivocally reject your presence in this thread and will make sure you EOPniggers stick to your own shitty HBR Global thread so you can be with your own cousin fucking lead poisoned retarded kin.
>>1560108What the fuck is there to discuss with the story? Surely you don't mean the chat-gpt cookie cutter snorefes event story they had for Maki? Or how about the multiple events with no payoff and just constant buildup to whatever and whenever the fuck they have planned. If you want to discuss something then bring up something worth discussing first. Or were you the one blogging about your chapter 2 play through? Brother Chapter 2 was over 2 years ago for us. Bring up an actual topic instead of just posting your reactions
>>1560123I'm not even that guy, but now I am absolutely going to shit up the JP thread with my GL questions. Please look forward to it.
>>1560268>not even that guyYou're not very good at this samefag-kun.
>>1560206There literally wasn't anyone blogging about story shit in this thread, the fuck are you on about schizo?
>>1560357That's because I'm not samefagging, but I would absolutely love to annoy (You) specifically with questions that I will receive answers to, much to your chagrin.
>>1560359You can act retarded if you wanna, it's got nothing to do with me. Sorry to disappoint.
>>1560361Sweetie, you are already butthurt about it. You're not disappointing me.
>>1560369No, it takes me no effort to ignore retarded questions. You're the one getting upset and planning a future revenge mission just to "try to piss me off" in 5 years when global is released, implying I would still give a fuck about you beyond 30 minutes from now
>>1560371>No, it takes me no effort to ignore retarded questions.And yet you started seething about the mere possibility that they might one day exist. >implying I would still give a fuck about you beyond 30 minutes from nowBaby, you think I'm some other person you replied to 5 hours ago. You hold things much longer than 30 minutes. In fact, even if I never pick this game up when it is released in English, you will still be upset about the possibility that you might have to bear witness to GL questions. It's quite frankly hilarious.
>>1560374*ignores your retarded post*Don't cry now.
>>1560375>*ignores your retarded post*If only you could have done this in the first place, you could have saved yourself a lot of current and future butthurt.
>[-]Too easy.
>>1560379How many times are you going to tell me that you're ignoring me before you actually do it?
>1 post removedLmfao lil bro is PISSED that I can't see his shit
I fear that this butthurt schizo is just going to keep saying "I'm ignoring you" without actually doing it, literally forever, almost as if he were a 5 year old child. It seems like I'm the one who is going to have to ignore him. He lacks the conviction to do things that he says he will do.
>>1545612>>1546849These two, but mainly the first one. I'm just saying that if you're the same person and expecting someone to reply to that with a worthwhile discussion then you're out of your mind. But if you're not, then why not contribute by actually bringing up something you want to talk about instead of complaining and expecting everyone to be as invested as you are>>1560358
Now that the two gay butt buddies have shutted the fuck up, who's the cutest character and why is it my cute Koju?
>>1560387Nope not me, and I don't consider one liner stuff like that to be real story discussion, and also this thread is months old and yet all people do is bitch about meta, it's just snobbish desuThere isn't even any waifufagging
>>1560406Pretty grim if you somehow see that as a negative.
>>1560418It's more soulful than just bitching about numbers like this is a 2nd job paying you a salary.
>>1560406Be the change you want to see then. We've talked about the 2.5 event, but even in that event there's barely anything to discuss when it's just more foreshadowing. I still think it's poorly done if the event was supposed to tie a bow onto 4.2, but since it's not, I can't call it bad when whatever it's trying to set up hasn't happened yet. And if you want to talk about the Maki event, then by all means try your best to find something worth going over. Anything older than those two recent events you'll have to start the discussion yourself. Honestly if you ask me, the only things worth talking about from this year are the AB collab, Miya event, chapter 5, and maybe the 2.5 event.
>>1560016Do you get anything special if you do everything with story restrictions?
>>1560421I would actually appreciate attempts at talking about the story here because the /u/ thread has some real overbearing members. I remember there was a brief time when there was strangely more gameplay discussion there than here.
I only talk about the story in the /u/ thread because I thought this place was overbearing. Talk about ironic.
>>1530435I am already not pleased by the meidos being complicit at their outpost general on /vmg/. It'll be so fucking awful to deal with them here
HBR is a yuri game, the MC is literally an open lesbian. Go play Blue Archive or something if you wanna be a self insert cuck.
>>1560441This game certainly creates very opinionated interpretations of its characters and story. As much as I dog on their inane takes I understand where they're coming from. Though certain individuals there are certainly too immature to see their agenda criticized so the conversation devolves into pointless squabble. You can post about the story here and I'm sure someone would respond. It's just that I don't think we're autistic enough to have paragraphs long discussions over something as fruitless as whether or not the story will have a happy ending. If you're looking for that, then maybe /u/ is the only place lol
Yeah I think I'll skip. It's very nice to immediately have a SA where Hisame's weakness is drastically exposed and she'd be useless.-sp every 5 turns, party swap lock, enemy deals more damage, high DR cap. You just can't play Hisame, aka an SP blackhole, in a well functioning party here.Why does Hisame always get so shitty styles? She doesn't deserve it. Also anyone knows how high the base damage of Inori is? Aka higher than Aoi with all tokens? I can't really imagine that, but I'm curious how it'd scale, and if it affects her DR. HBR quest only shows rather low base values, so even Byakko has like 50% more DR (more relevant considering maid Aoi is so busted)
>>1560614Well she's a swordsman not a gunman. Of course they're shitty.
>>1560614>Why does Hisame always get so shitty styles?She's a breaker, so she's permanently cursed. Even if the style itself isn't a breaker the curse is still there. The worst thing about it is that not only does she get shitty styles, she also hurts elemental comps by that. First, she stole light debuff from Miya SS1/Megumi SS2, so light had no debuffer for 2 years, now she's ruining the ice team.>Also anyone knows how high the base damage of Inori is? Aka higher than Aoi with all tokens?From what I've heard, HBR quest isn't lying, she has really low base damage, so even with the 30SP increase, her damage is shit.
>>1560461MC wants to fuck girls, I want to fuck girls. I see no conflict of interest.
I really hope that the ice big field will be made with the current comp in mind, and not just as a generic template, whoever gets it will have to salvage this shit.
>>1560422The characters sometimes have different voice lines in battle if you play story accurate. It also add to the immersion.
Honestly the worst part about ice teams is how difficult they are for unga bunga brainlets like me to pilot. Could've definitely performed better if I knew all the OD percentages and had tried using actual foresight. Imo it's the strongest SA element with all that extra turn bs and the evil Akari, but Maid Aoi and win will always be the comfiest.
>>1560614>>1560640According to the youtubers, Inori's 30SP is equivalent to 11SP damage ult, lmao. A-san really mind broke them when they realized just how strong she was the entire time.
Ogasahara will teach Inori about love, but after her death, Inori will realize she is the bloodthirsty monster she always thought she was and the only path forward for her is the way of the sword
What's the maximal turn 1 damage you can do with normal EXP gain? I'm using thunder sharo ult+ Meitantei Ehen ult + yun yun buffing Irene.
>>1561593That has to be a bug. Byakko is way better in every way then.>>1562346I currently use Tama suit (lb3) and Yunyun buff on my lb0 Irene thief ult and hit for about 900k. If you are willing to get Kura's new passive field, you can increase that damage even more. But that's also -1 slot, and I'd rather give more chars exp.>>1561396I'll be honest. Nothing of the new ice styles is actually worth using over the year 2 stuff. They are either too slow, too small of an upgrade and/or way harder to use due to less defensive power.The team I used there>>1560614is easy to play and extremely good at doing what it needs to do. Technically Adel has a 10% higher damage ceiling than Mari has, but damage -> score conversion starts to suck pretty hard pretty fast anyways, and the speed advantage of letting Mari kill is definitely there. In a theoretical scenario where I'd deal 10% more damage than I did there, needing only 2 turns more would already mean less score. Plus this way you can have Adel deal that 10% damage by simply attacking before Mari in the final turn anyways.It's comfy. Suit Tama ult + Yanagi charge = 100% crit-rate. Using dual carry means Tama only needs to normal buff twice. Seira gives you a fat damage cut for dangerous turns and when you can't swap your frontrow. She can also use her base ult for 30% crit damage and slightly beats Lolita in ice enhance potency. I have the new ice Miya, but the best use is slapping her 5 cost self-buff on the thunder version. Year 3 has been really weird so far. Ice in particular didn't get much of value unless it's about aoe. And even there it's often better to delete one enemy fast.
Cumming inside of Miya
>>1562992>>>/vg/
>>1563032There aint a hbr thread on vg sweaty
>>1562374>Ice in particular didn't get much of value unless it's about aoeIce really got screwed when they came up with this random ass 30G is the new ice meta team idea. You can really tell that they designed Hisame around Yuina and Miya and not from the standpoint of making ice a good element or thinking about their old and future styles from other squads. Ice Yotsuha's spot was given by Chie, and Chie isn't supposed to be a pure support, so it's half-assed in a weird way too.
>>1562374>>1563416I think you're severely underestimating the power of ice and OD. Akari, Yuina, and Chie are fundamental in insane feats like 3 turn clear of Skull Feather [Hard]. Their slowness is compensated in the how quickly they can generate OD and basically give you infinite turns. Honestly the only bad one out of them is Miya, but that's to be expected when dark Megumi was terrible too.
Wow, the appstore rankings have already slipped to 70s a few days in. On the first day, it seemed like they cooked with this negator placement, but now I think they would have made more money if they put a negator in one of the swimsuit gachas, and this was just a random waifufag banner with cute Hisame.
>>1563446The sales are always like this. Swimsuits sell by themselves, there's no reason to lump in too much meta incentive too. I don't see how hitting top 8 while it was in a dry spell with the pointless Maki and Matsuoka is bad
>>1563446Wow who cares?
>>1563434That's only Akari, she already could 1 turn that dimension fight during her release.And for most things it's not really usable, and ultimately just a special kind of cheese. These styles haven't been released for that kind, and the extra turns cost more than any OD they would regen. So sure, nice, you can do weird "low turn" challenges if you are a whale and/or use max boosts in weekly boss fights, but.. that's hardly making the styles good. And Akari is a year 2 style. I was only bashing the comparatively shitty year 3 ones. Though you'd largely not use her because she really brings nothing but OD, Aina is much better for more normal teams.And I can also tell you why it's all aoe: Colab. It's the same why light was all aoe in year 2 and fire never got a ST blaster. It was always clear that ice would be the most shafted element in year 3 due to colab covering it forcing it into weird aoe side-grades in most scenarios.
>>1563896They generate more OD then you think, plus they are more designed around the SA min turn update and tower if anyone cares about that. Ultimately it's just an alternate play style where you are looping OD instead of the usual set up and kill. I'd rather them go down this route instead of constantly powercreeping dps styles or making up new buffs and debuffs.
At some point, they'll have to make changes to the battle system. It's pretty much the only thing that hasn't changed since launch except for the standard attacks always generating 3 hits of OD update.It's possible to do 1-turn clears in some cases now and there is only so much you can add on top of that with the game's current mechanics.Or they could go the lazy way and simply add new elements into the game and call it a day.
>>1564943Sometimes I feel like they have no foresight or future planning for the gameplay whatsoever. For example, they backtracked on the elemental removal dominance by adding elemental absorption, then immediately added pierce critical which has the potential to get more broken than elemental removal ever was. I thought they would at least balance it out by not giving it special elemental effects, but they just gave Kura a field that works with it, which means they will probably get a real field later and even more support. Do they really not see where this is going? Will they just add non-elemental pierce critical absorption later while looking like clowns?
No one actually cares about them putting effort into the game play, everyone who isn't autistic is here for the story
>>1564963I play mostly for the story too but the gameplay is part of the experience too so I would prefer it being better rather than worse.
what do i do with my extra chains (the ones that give +1 elemental skill and +3 random class SP on entering battle?
>>1565578I think you mostly use them with characters that have lower skill uses (like dark Megumin who can only use her ult two times at full upgrade). In general you don't need them but they can be handy sometimes.
>>1565671I mean, the ones that are extra after you already equipped your party? Let's say you're rolling for an Attacker SP thing and you get a bunch of Breaker ones.
>>1565687I think you can feed them to the ones you use for exp.
>>1565698They aren't upgradeable it seems
Can you even play this game in english in any form?
>>1566530https://heavenburnsred.yo-star.com/ Do fuck off to your shit English version
The good part is, we'll likely get some celebration quartz in JP when EN releases or ranks #1 in the stores. I think they did that once when KR/TW came out.
>>1566723TW/KR are completely managed by them, so it's a special case for WFS. They don't seemingly give a shit about CN servers run by bilibili, and they probably won't give a shit about EN servers run by yostar too.
>>1566707why are you so hostile
>>1566746It's the new schizo, just ignore him.
>>1566746Period cramps
how yuri is this game? I've been playing R1999 but its censored yuri since its Chinese. But HBR is Japanese so I expect girls kissing girls on screen.
>>1566909lol lmao
>>1566909pointless yuri bait
dorks
>>1567864You've never played this game
OI TAMA!
>>1568533(gremlin screeching noises)
anyone want to give me their invite code?
>>15687723c0pomkfe0rkelia
Do men exist in the hbr universe? I know they aren't playable but it feels awkward to me when I watch an anime and you never see a male character. Gives it an uncanny valley feeling. Are there at least guys in the background in this game?
>>1568795Yes, they exist but not at the military base. And among the few that do exist Maeda somehow unleashed a talent of making them obnoxious as hell.
>>1568795the best character is male (scrapper)
>>1568810Ruka is better.
>>1568909HFK
>english preregistration is only at 31k >need 200k to get the max rewardsbe honest, is it even worth picking this up when it gets its EN version? or is it going to die in under a year?
>>1569965I have no hope for it seeing the engagement because the target audience, Key fans, are like 1/100th the size of the CN audience not to mention the JP one. If it's not DOA, it's surely going to be DOA soon after because the global playerbase has much less patience for shitty gacha systems, shitty dungeons, stingy rewards and slow update cycles. Then you have the people complaining on and on about how they way they translate isn't exactly how they preferred it. It would be an overstatement to say the western VN community is on life support and anyone who was even around mid-2010s has already learned Japanese.They have literally <10k followers on Twitter, 4k subs on Youtube, no social media presence anywhere else and the number of preregs is laughable. Yostar has their work cut out for them so bad that I would not in a million years bet on them to salvage this.
>>1570011that sucks. i'm interested in playing but i hate picking up gacha games after they've been out for ages and having to play catch-up just to see all the story.
>>1569965I mean, they have done pretty much zero marketing for it so far, other than posting character profiles on twitter. It was brought up on the other board, but they haven't even prepared a page explaining what this game is about or uploaded the first real trailer, which is what other servers did when they were in pre-registration day 1.
>>1569965Yostar doesn't have a history of shutting down gachas too quickly, so they might be willing to take the long view. But it definitely feels like they're dropping the ball a bit on advertising the game or getting people interested. Hopefully they're not expecting the game to make millions every month.
>>1570011>>1570067I don't think Yostar is that slimy. I think people will come through word-of-mouth and just for Jun Maeda alone. There's no way they'd close their servers that soon. People might maul me over this, but they could reach out to vtubers to promote it since their audience will more than likely to be the types who'd pick this game up.
How about let the EN version rot, learn Japanese like a real woman and play on JP with us JOPstacies?
>>1570137Just flood the thread with spoilers when the EOPs try to post here.
>>1570147Based
>>1570147Gotta sprinkle in a few fake ones
>>1570137im the guy that made that first post. i played the game in japanese for a bit but quickly got hit with "lol you need to grind/you need to have already amassed a powerful team of SSRs if you want to see more of the story" and if i have the opportunity to play "from the start" then that's what i'd like to do.
>>1570534It's even worse at the start. Nowaday you have plenty of way to get free SS styles and the story's difficulty also got nerfed to hell and back. I think the game only asks you to stick around for a month to be able to clear most story contents. If you got stuck with the main story during that period you can always read the past event stories (you should read them along side the main story anyway instead of trying to rush through it).
>>1570534What are you talking about though? Due to all the nerfs and free shit they throw at new players you will breeze through the main story. In what way do you need to grind to beat the story? Sure, you should minimally equip your team, but until the end of chapter 4 part 2 you have absolutely no incentive to even make more than one overpowered squad and steamroll. Anyone crying that HBR is too hard is patently insane.
>>1570588one of the side stories was what i got stuck on iirc, there was a sudden huge jump in difficulty and it forced me to use characters i didn't really have built up.
>>1570611Which one is it? Most even stories can be clear with low level characters or they give you characters with fixed stats. The only one I remeber people was having trouble with was Requiem for the Blue because people forgot to level Ichigo at the start.
after the update the game crashes for me on mobile immediately upon entering combatpc version still works fine thankfully
For curiosity, I've decided to see how certain recent/similar in role debuffers compare, aka how big their damage amp is and what they need for it. Tsukasa is rather odd, due to her being half a buffer and dark enhance being weird to calculate (I simply assumed you already have 250% from big enhances and get 160% from her).Using otherwise MINIMUM values (which are technically amplified by style upgrades, can be higher/lower because of border etc), the result is:5.61 isuzu (od3 / od2 + 6sp) 40sp4.2 isuzu (od2 / od1 + 6sp) 28sp3.8 Hisame (od2 / od1 + 6sp) 30sp5.168 Sharo (od3) ~25sp4.2 Sharo (od2) ~20sp3.23 Sharo (od1) ~15sp5.51 Tsukasa (-) ~34sp (dark only styles, no OD needed but typical restriction with hit buffs, front-row only)+6sp can be done by Yanagi, Wakki or the new Minori respectively.So Hisame is fairly clearly under-powered. Technically having res shred can be more useful than what Isuzu has, but trying to go off element in endgame is -60% damage and I consider that rather pointless.Nothing new of course, but the new Isuzu rubs it in once more.
>>1573628I believe most styles are designed in a way where they don't directly powercreep their predecessors. Hisame was never going to be broken when Miya wasn't even released half a year ago. Similarly Isuzu doesn't directly replace Tenne either since she'll always be strictly worse for ST fights. But I'd say in terms of which one replaces the other in team-building, Hisame is pretty much a mainstay in every ice team. But I do think with how little Hisame offers she is the one more prone to been powercrept in the future. Though Hisame and Tsukasa were always going to be awkward imo when ice and dark has Adelhide who can serve as the main ST dps for ages to come. I'm pretty certain Adelhide still haunts the balancing team's mind rent free with her +6 rengeki
>>1573361clear cache/reinstall etc didn't fix it?
>>1573833Hisame's issue is unironically that Miya exists and has fragile, and they want you to use both. Which however is a terrible idea, as Miya doesn't add enough for that and you don't have the party slots for such a thing.Ice runs best with: Adel, Mari (dress), Tama, Seira/Lolita, Yanagi + debuffer (so basically Hisame in this case)Of course that's ST, but how much aoe does exist? Right. With Muua being no longer very playable as a sustain (especially in usually high damage multi boss environments) Mari's buffer style lost a lot of power, so ice aoe is generally fucked no matter what.>Tenne is better in ST lightIt's more that she's easier to use/ a bit faster, but better? The field is a big deal, as it allows you to use Yotsuha without clashing with Tsukasa, and Tama also works well with Yotsuha while again clashing with Tsukasa. Also light is entirely AOE, she was the only ST style released since fucking Tenshi, and Monaka hits harder than Tenshi in full aoe.Tenne might be relevant if they ever go back to light ST, but the aoe team plays much better right now, even vs ST.Also to show Tenne's performance in comparison to Isuzu's:4.25 Tenne (od2 / od1 + 6sp) 28 sp5.61 Isuzu (od3 / od2 + 6sp) 40sp4.2 Isuzu (od2 / od1 + 6sp) 28spWith equal budget, they are.. even. Isuzu can do more with higher budget. Mind you this is calculated with min values, and both of these chars have actually debuff scaling with skill levels, but it should be roughly accurate regardless. Isuzu might be a little too "well fitting" for light teams.
>>1573833I'm sure most people who got this Isuzu would never bother to use Tenne ever again just for some percentages you could theoretically squeeze out of comp with her. Don't look at gameplay youtubers who autistically minmax comps for their videos, most people don't actually do that if they can get away with it. To be honest, I really didn't expect them to go for such a blatant in your face replacement style, they usually at least try to keep up the pretense that they're doing something different. I guess they started working on the light negator and realized the comp wouldn't work with the current setup, had to cut the slots.
This SA is kind of funny. You don't get attacked unless you hit it first. So you can sit there and set up with buffs, drive gain and point care and then rush it.
>>1574308Nvm, looks like it's only related to the OD gauge, too bad. Can still set up some buffs though.
Ichigo and Sumomomomomo can now sweatThat's all for expressions. It took me two days because the game decided to shit itself and make me redownload all of it, which of course made it impossible to tell which assets were new. I have no idea what else I might have missed.
I want ______ to make Sumono sweat nya!
>>1574413It didn't shit itself, it was an update.
>>1574436I don't consider the game being unable to start a normal update.
>>1574437Don't know either but after doing the update I had to download 3000mb worth of files and it started just fine.
>>1574065I think you're over valuing Yanagi way too much. Charge might as well be a non buff with how little it offers to non 31E styles. Muua is still perfectly fine as a sustain option giving you both aoe mind's eye and overheal. I mean she's still a more reliable healer than Tama who has to play both the role of a buffer and a healer separately. AOE ice is also perfectly fine with both Yuina and Nikaido being OD monsters. I'd say dark is the worst in terms of AOE having to rely on swimsuit Yuina who is just fine, but doesn't have many qualities outside of being a beat stick. Light is also just fine, but would really appreciate Suit Karen with Swimsuit Karen's x2 EX skill. >>1574117I don't know where you two are going with Suit Tsukasa being replaceable. If you are using light Isuzu you are definitely going to want to use another debuffer who has fragile because 40 SP spent consecutively for her full debuffs is just unrealistic. For a ST teams: DPS, Tsukasa, Tenne, Yunyun, Muua already gives you all you need with a free slot for anything. For AOE teams or in your case running Isuzu in a ST team: DPS, Isuzu, Yotsuha, Fragile, Mind's Eye, gives you one free slot unless you run Tama as the mind's eye which means the last slot has to be a healer. I think the damage from Tsukasa's ult is also underrated when it scales with int instead of str and dex. Ultimately there's not much of a difference except one of the values geared specifically for ST and the other for AOE, but even then it's not by much. Isuzu is a great style and light teams would definitely want her, but to say that she can replace both Tenne and Tsukasa now is just being hyperbolic. She definitely can in the future depending on how the light resist remover is designed, but right now she just gives light way more flexibility while not being a "must include" style outside of AOE
>>1574413Can you check for the instrumental ver. of the current event song?
>>1574790I just uploaded 3 mp3s that look new. Is one of them it? I haven't had time to play the event yet.
>>1574818Yup, it was SI0096, thank you.
I hear this game is going worldwide. What can I expect with respect to daily upkeep, endgame, co-op or competitive mechanics, monetization, this general?
>>1574557Yanagi has about 70% more healing than Muua or something silly. Muua can NOT solo sustain anything anymore, for quite some time now. It is what it is.The reason Yanagi is so good is because suit Tama's ult + charge = 100% crit rate. This allows the first hit to break/blast be sufficiently buffed. On top of that, the healing is enough for a solo sustain in most scenarios. Finally, she can share SP to other chars during OD, when a healer generally has no use for them.Suit Tama is also not a healer. She won't do any healing due to how expensive her buffs are already.Finally you don't stack shit like what you think with fragile. It just makes no sense. 40sp isn't a problem. We have enough ways to make that work reasonably fast by now. Heck suit Tama is used a lot, and she needs more than that even with the economic way of not double buffing one attack (=44sp, possibly +8 if you also want the stats buff)Also suit Megumi is commonly used dark unit together with pirate Aina, and in total she needs 46sp.I'm not talking about theories or anything like this, I talk about actual practical things, notably about stuff highest level SA, because that tends to be the hardest content the game offers.
>>1580569>Muua can NOT solo sustain anything anymoreThat's just not true. I don't know what pauper comp you are running, like maybe you're using S Yunyun or S Shiki or something, but any team that are all at least LB1 can sustain fine with Muua. LB2 and you are more than fine. And don't even start with how LB1+ is not practical because it is Muua is there to use if you're either not using Tama like in fire or elec or if you need your blaster or debuffer to break without needing Tama to x2 mind's eye. Double mind's eye is just way more valuable than 100% crit, which was never needed since day 1 Seira. Yanagi is great for the SP exchange though, but that's the only thing that sets her apart imo. If I ever needed a healer and already have mind's eye I would choose Irie 100% of the time over anyone else>you don't stack shit like what you think with fragileHow does that make no sense. Are you just not using fragile? >40sp isn't a problem>I talk about actual practical thingsYou're saying that it's practical to have 40SP and 4 turns for a debuffer to use their skills consecutively? Unless you're going to OD3 every single time that's not what I call practical. >Tama needs 44SPFirst of all you're forgetting that Tama is a buffer where her buffs don't have a time limit so she isn't limited by the SP cap. And secondly, you use all her open the roads? Are you doing level 240 score attack? because even on 140 I've only ever needed to use two or three for 1mil>Megumi needs 46spAgain suit Megumi is not limited by the SP cap because her debuffs last forever so you don't need 46sp consecutively. And if you're using her with Aina they can spread their fragiles. Though if you ask me using suit Megumi is impractical in itself with how little she gives in return for 30SP
>>1580550Kill yourself.
It's potentially time for a new roadmap and new 5.2 cope or despair
KakiP said, they want to give an SS2 to everyone who is still missing it, before the end of this year.I guess we'll see some Iroha, Shiki and Fubuki soon.
Aina: Joy2, Joy3, Sadness4 and an option to take off an "Item"Karerin: optional Sweat and placeholders for Sadness3, Sadness4 and Special2Sumomo: Joy, Joy2, Sadness3, Shout, Thought, UpsetTsukasa: Pose_04I feel like Sumomo's gonna get some focus. I also double-checked and Aina has no option to turn off the blush now. And sadly her ahoge doesn't perfectly match the anglerfish's lure. Totally missed opportunity.
So what happens when global doesn't even get enough preregs for 閃光Ruka?
>>1584361It will probably hit it when they actually start advertising in any way at all. They haven't done anything yet, so most people don't know it even exists, only the small group of key/gacha autists who were interested before the announcement.
Early November is looking good on the new roadmap.New battle contents, master skills for 6 more characters and new main story info.
>>1588542I think this confirms the next chapter is 99% coming out at the end of the year so people can have time to play through it during New Years holiday. I hope the Chinese leaks are real and Nanamin will be playable at the end of conquest
Total coomer victory
>>1588982I don't think those things are connected
You can scam this SA now with ninjas and Aoi...
I forgot if the crab took extra damage from AOE attacks or not, but Pirate Aina once again proves herself to be in the top 3 styles of all time. In fact all three of them are there: Aoi, Tama, and Aina
>>1588849>I hope the Chinese leaks are real and Nanamin will be playable at the end of conquestWhat leaks? Sounds more like someone's wet dreams.
Am I missing something or Aoi isn't tanking the 6th turn aoe even with her protect? 無理ゲーSad operation perseus 2 didn't get any new old style
Welp, that was fun. Heavy use of drive gain, point care and bunny Tsukasa's ult to get to OD2.Crab takes all hits on AoE attacks, which means Sharo's ults can add all debuffs in two turns. Yukki does large field and + 30% skill buff for removing the crab's atk up on turn 5. Then swimsuit Karen's ult repeat allows you to take down both bosses on the same turn.Plenty of resetting involved, since the team relies on RNG for some characters to not get hit twice until turn 5.
>>1589207Boss was made to specifically ban Aoi when it released so yeah. The crab has Aoi's special taunt, so Aoi's herself doesn't hit the cannon when she uses her ult, which lets it's aoe hit everyone like normal. >>1589069Yes, same with Aoi. If you use an aoe, the hits that are supposed to go to the cannon just get redirected. So any aoe debuff will land twice with one use.
This is a funny one where aoe hits double. But not very interesting otherwise, unless you want to reset without a sustain. Not really needed though. Fire is gonna be harder I think, unless you got the new style last week. And even then - crit-rate sucks when you can't fully set up.
My lord and savior Inorin finally letting me farm 1m badges for everyone. Why even use an element until they start adding non-element absorb to bosses? Also onsen Isuzu is completely broken on any DP boss.
I think it's ass to put special effects like Yuki's -100 stats on single-target skills. If it's something super speshul that most characters likely never get, regardless of how good or bad it is, just make it aoe, so it's more versatile.
>>1590343I don't think status down moves even exist in aoe versions, period. This one's usefulness is also limited, due to the cost. If you can't live, what's the point of being able to deal damage against high border enemies.So far limiteds are just gimmicky. She's clearly meant to be played with limited Ruka, so it's double whatever.
>>1590471>I don't think status down moves even exist in aoe versions, period.Miya had one on her SS1. Making Kojuu's and Megumi's misfortune normal skills single target is just them being cunts for no reason, you always want such skills aoe if possible.>This one's usefulness is also limited, due to the cost. If you can't live, what's the point of being able to deal damage against high border enemies.This one is super weird because of this game's stat system with caps. There are so many random moving parts that make it stronger or weaker, that unless your team is extremely weak, you might have to sit down and crunch the numbers to understand if it even provides good enough benefits to use over something that just gives normal damage or survival. And every time your characters get stronger, it gets weaker, which is just weird. Kojuu's is different because you can just use it defensively throughout the fight, and then if you get damage from it, it's even better.>She's clearly meant to be played with limited Ruka, so it's double whatever.It's funny, but because Ruka has her free style and her master skill, she's actually one of the worst attackers in the game to synergize with that skill, she doesn't benefit from the stats as much.
>>1590471>If you can't live, what's the point of being able to deal damage against high border enemies.Doesn't it basically exist specifically for 制圧戦? Huge border even with the bike with lower attack percent and dp/hp even if everyone goes in with 20 sp and 3od. In fact, she pretty much makes it a joke even with 0 lb and unoptimized stats on your attacker.
Are there any big meta styles that I'm missing?
yostar posted an update about hbr today. turns out the game's launching with story chapter 3 playable, the first 10 event stories playable, and a few other things that sound nice.
So how's the game story? Is it a hopeful story or is it tragedywank constantly trying to make you sad/depressed?
>>1592112Both
>>1592142You're going to have to give me more than that my good friend
>>1591982
>>1592112i didn't get that far but there were a lot of very emotional moments and also some of the funniest stuff i've read in a video game. the cast is very charming.
>>1592112It's a combination of both. The happy moments make the tragic ones more dark, but in turn those dark moments make the hopeful ones brighter. It's definitely not relentlessly tragic anyway. If you've read anything by Maeda you know what you're getting into.
>>1592388Depends though since Maeda has a lot of stuff, Little busters and Rewrite felt like they had more of a happy or hopeful vibe rather than the 'world is fucked and everyone you ever loved dies' that a LOT of games have nowadays.
>>1592391I'd say it's more Little Busters than Clannad or Tomoyo After if that's what you're wondering.
>>1592391Maeda didn't work on the scenario of Rewrite though, he did some music work.
is it true that this is a yuri game or is it just shitposting
>>1593052It's true
>>1593052it's more like a key vn with yuri in it, than a full blown yurige
How's the gameplay in this? Is it fun?
Is EN going to have an accelerated schedule? Even starting at Kozue's event, it's still 2 years behind. Also skipping Aoi and Higuchi's rate up is crazy
Why will the app not work?Android 10, 8GB RAM
There's a thread about this game? Is there an english version? wtf?
>>1593052Why would someone telling you X is a yuri game ever be considered shitposting?
>>1593464He's probably the type of creature that belongs on /vg/.
>There's only one gachatuber hbr EN has sponsored >It's the fgotuber who's so deep in gamba hell that's he willing to shill out for any company offering shekels I'll be shocked if they can't even get tt with the release date on the horizon considering how one of them is already playing the game
They didn't flex align center the energy and fragments. It's over
>>1593574Localizations are always pretty bad at fonts these days in general.
>>1593574wait did the english version already launch?
>>1593890No I think it's a screenshot from some sponsored YouTuber's video
>>1590508Kozue can also help there, and she does it two-fold, permanently and it works in the card battle as well.I mean sure, it works, but eh. Not complaining though. Limiteds that aren't even particularly good are better than limiteds that you absolutely NEED. This game is WAY too stingy with pulls for that.
>>1523378Anyone knows a place to download the latest ost? Hikari is kill
what is the differnce between this place and the thread over at /u/? is this thread filled with gacha anons that play this game despite the yuri while coping constantly like the /vg/ thread of 1999? is the /u/ thread full of agp trannoids that live through Ruka? where do i find the yuriotaku playing this game?
>>1594782You'll find more discussion on /u/, both about the story and for some reason also a lot about the gameplay. There's at least one person there though that has a very hard time ignoring posts, especially when it's about disliking a part of the story without a book's worth of justification. And there's no self-insertion there. That is heavily shat on whenever anyone tries it.
>>1594785>And there's no self-insertion there. That is heavily shat on whenever anyone tries it.thats good to know. seems like that place still understands what yuri is about.
luka is your self-insert
say word, nigga
>>1594816Frankly I think it should be Luka rather than Ruka considering the meaning of her name.
>>1594821Either way there is no way to translate it so the reader understand that her name means "singing moon" unless they use translatior's note. So even if the Ru comes from Luna they probably just go with the name people usually use for her.
How can i link my account to my google mail? I got a account ID and password but i would feel much safer if i could somehow link it to google.
>>1594909(me)Do i just click on "link with google" and sign into my account? What will happen to my game ID and passwort i set before?
>>1594911>Do i just click on "link with google" and sign into my account?Yeah.>What will happen to my game ID and passwort i set beforeIf Iremember correctly you can still use them after linking your account with google.
>>1594945Got it. I now have my account ID and have it linked to my google. Feels good.
The Chinese leaks were real...
I am ready.
>>1594785Jesus, the schizo is still there? The threads are borderline unusable because of that idiot.
>>1598392He acts like he owns the fanbase, so I don't see him leaving anytime soon.
if I get it right, Sumomo SS3 powercreeped Inori SS2 in her own job, and doesn't even need Kura.Ichigo SS3 is kind of whatever. I like her outfit, but I already have way too many light characters
Sumomo's cute fangAi-chin's blush can be turned off again.Ichigo and Sumomo have whole new outfits.Jasmine got a face.Iroha: Superiority2Wakki: ShoutKaren-chan: SadnessKarerin lost Sadness4, but that was unfinished. Sadness 3 now looks finished.Somehow my upload speed is abysmal today, but it should be done soon.
>one character's master skill creates the first in the game universal field that's almost as strong as a normal one, heals every turn, doesn't need SP and doesn't use a turn to cast>another character's master skill gives 10 stats to a very specific set of charactersUnironically, how can anyone look at this and push it into production as is? Sometimes it feels like the development team at WFS is just a bunch of raving lunatics.
>>1598504Inori SS2 is aoe and they're probably going to have similar damage since Sumomo's self def down makes up for a lot of scaling even though Inori is 18SP. Farming wise Sumomo can 1T on ST obviously and Inori needs a 6SP battery plus LB1 or 1 SP somewhere else and another charger to 2T.Her passive skills are clearly geared toward the new mode and she sounds completely busted in that one and arts battle. Basically infinite 7SP EX uses, free level 10 will, and large 3-hit on LB3. Although arts battle is just looping rng instead of actual fighting...
I see, Sumomo got self-morale on her passive. They began to prepare Kozuefags for the inevitable powercreep morale style.
This SA was definitely weird. My thunder doesn't have enough LB to do a max level SA, so I went with dark. But the idea should be fairly similar. Use big aoe hits against 3 targets to get OD, then kill.
The remaining gachas in this year are pretty much solved, right? Fubuki, Aina, Iroha, Shiki, 31A, and christmas is pretty much confirmed Next on 11/8 is the wave and pre-31D Aina event gacha. Probably Shiki and Iroha/Fubuki.Then 11/22 is the Aina event gacha with Aina and the other 31D memberEarly December, 5.2 part 1 will be released so most likely 31A focused. They gotta fulfill the yearly Tama tax Lastly on 12/20 is the event and Christmas gacha. Most likely G or X. These were pairs for the last two years so I'd say either Monaka and Kura or Yunyun and Sharo. Although if they want to do an early 31F event instead, then rather than Shiki for the next gacha, it could be Ichiko for her master skill. Then Shiki and Yanagi could be the Christmas pair.
>>1600629Aina's last style is still pretty new, so while not impossible, it'd be weird to give her another already.
>>1600629In their schedule, 11/8 was supposed to be the 2nd part of the 1000 day anni celebration, they may put something stronger there. They also have to rerun Yuina unison at some point.>>1600680Aina has a bunch of sprites for the event in the game files >>1583736 and the Sumomo event also teased her event in the background. So yes, Aina is weirdly getting the main character-tier treatment this year, while simultaneously being part of the worst performing flop banner this game has ever seen.
>>1600685Somebody in their gameplay department must love Aina because both her styles are insane. Her pirate style is the best style released this year so far. I wouldn't be surprised if they gave her either the fire or light resist remover
>>1600762I feel like people in the gameplay department are too lax on OD-related effects in general. They're super strict on SP-related effects, none of SP ults are truly broken, most SP-related master skills are intentionally gimped despite being very limited and stuff like that. But when it's OD, a character can just insta fill the fucking bar, then go into the OD looping sequence and it's totally okay somehow.But yeah, Aina too. I don't know why she gets these insane ults.
>>1600794Correction. SP effects excluding the 31X gimmick. That one is also stupidly fucking broken, and they keep adding more mechanics to it too.
I heard that the story and music in this game are top notch but in return the gameplay is mind boogling shit. True?
>>1600816Nah, I would say it's ok. It's nothing to write home about, and I wish they'd tried a little harder, but it's not "mind boogling shit", that's for sure.
>>1600827Hmm might try it then. Another thing I heard about that this stinky as hell for f2p. Like I know f2p can't get all ssr chars normally but they said you can't even get 50% of that ssr chars if you're f2p, maybe only 25% because of how stingy the game is. True? Also do you need a lot of dupes or else the characters just not good? Thanks anon, I'm really curious about this game.
>>1600816Gameplay is kinda mid, though I find it more enjoyable than something like Grand Order. It's definitely not shit though, let alone mind bogglingly shit. That said, the main draw is the story, which I find to be one of the best, if not best, gacha story. It's definitely worth giving the game a shot for.
>>1600836f2p is a bit weird. I don't know how EN will go about it, but in JP you get a shitload of random free rolls and confirmed pulls and stuff, so you'll amass a massive collection of "random" styles no matter what. However, if you want to target "specific" styles on new banners you need to save for spark like a motherfucker or be a luckchad, you don't expect to get every one of them for granted.>Also do you need a lot of dupes or else the characters just not good? You don't need them at all for most of the content in the game, you'll do fine with basic LB0s. If you want to do "hardcore" optional whale content with no LBs, you may still do ok in the damage department, but your survivability will suffer a LOT, those boss will beat you fucking ass.
>>1600845>damageNo, when you get too low stats compared to the enemy, you also don't deal damage anymore.As long as you understand that your defensive stats are by far the most important, you do not need LBs for anything but the highest level score attack, which isn't really giving unique rewards, but is arguably the most fun battles when you ever reach endgame. But that takes a long as fuck time anyways, and we also had periods of time where not even that needed LBs. (usually after global level cap increases)There was definitely a time where I called this game's gameplay shit, but it slowly but surely improved. Even today the game is defined by the devs being random as fuck. They will release completely unusable styles like that recent one that can only heal light styles, and otherwise provides NOTHING, when you never play teams full of light styles. (a lot of supports are non elemental) They will also release completely garbage content (FARTs), but at the same time it also goes the other way around. I like that about the game. You never know what they are cooking.
I can't wait for this game, probably coming next year tho. Sad
>>1600854>They will release completely unusable styles like that recent one that can only heal light styles, and otherwise provides NOTHINGIt feels like they neglect defenders as a class in general for some reason. Unlike breakers, who are shit and will never be really good no matter how hard they try to fix it, defenders are actually a good functional class. Yet they keep making them an offensive class that barely defends, class change them or release these ass styles that you don't want to use. Why? It's such an unexplored landscape.
>>1600762I'm looking at her skill list and I'm not getting what makes her so good. Are you using her as an attacker with all those extra hits?
>>1600836>>1600845NTA but I just want the gacha to be fair. Yostar will definitely pushing for p2w with barely any free draws. Why they gotta be like this?
>>1600816I don't know if the other people saying it isn't shit have played FGO or any other RPG, but it really is shit. The only positive it has is ironically because of elements, which makes the team building aspect slightly more in-depth than slapping on meta supports, and that farming is easier without FGA. Star Rail has pretty garbage gameplay too and I still think this game is even worse in both aspects of gameplay. I would not rate this story as highly as FGOs and I have a huge bias towards Key works already, but I would rate the story higher than every other gacha, including all the acclaimed CN/KR ones with good settings/worlds but shitty dialogue. Although I guess I'm also biased towards Fate. The huge draw for me is that this game is fully voiced which adds a lot of life to it even during irrelevant infodump and I just like the comedy better. You will not amass a "massive" amount of random styles. I've played for the first 6 months, then from 1st anniversary till now, and I barely have >50% of styles. Like 55% maybe, but I spent quartz on a lot of random shit like the unisons, 1.5x and 50 on the gauge for the SS tickets. The good thing is that you don't have to be a dumbass like me rolling on the 1.5x gachas or random gauge gachas. Just save for the meta ones and spark if you get unlucky.You don't need LB for the story or events and that's generally the bulk of the game. If you venture out into Score Attack or Hard Mode, you're going to want LBs. Fortunately there's omnidupes so it's fairly easy to LB whoever you want. And once you're done with the story, there's literally nothing to do except these. >>1600875NTA, but she's a debuffer and OD generator. OD is already broken by design, but she gets a 7SP 15 hit ST on a support. I wouldn't say best style this year either. OD looping isn't done with her alone and already relies on a few other styles overloaded with debuffs, or can OD gen a decent amount. You can also do it without her.
>>1600901>I would rate the story higher than every other gacha, including all the acclaimed CN/KR ones with good settings/worlds but shitty dialogueWhen you said shitty dialogues, do you mean this game or those acclaimed CN/KR ones? It would be really disappointing if the dialogue is shitty because I'm more into character than lore guy. I mean the lore can be great and all but if the way you told it is shit (looking at you Arknights) then it's pointless. I'd rather have a good dialogue and characters building than that mess.
>>1600901So is it fairy safe to say that this game is indeed not f2p friendly? I have no idea what unison, 1.5x or SS tickets banner were. SS tickets=SS characters? Wasn't that the highest rarity in game?
>>1600901>>1600917Also what's the reward for score attack or hard mode? Is it useless reward or significant one like roll tickets?
>>1600917I think it's much more friendly than most CN/KR gachas, and even most JP media mix gachas that aren't mainly selling skins.iirc, 95% of the styles (i.e., characters to play) in this game are non-limited, meaning you could potentially roll for last month's styles on the most basic banner if you're lucky. They frequently give out SS tickets for events like anniv, half-anniv, 1000-day, New Year's, Golden Week, and then you have score attack and other game modes. That means you either get a guaranteed random SS style or a dupe every time. Now, like this anon mentioned, >>1600845 you will need to save up if you want to spark a specific banner, like the Angel Beats collab during the anniv, where you'd need to save for ~6 months in advance to be 100% sure you pull Kanade, who's in the 5% limited styles.>>1600919>Also what's the reward for score attack or hard mode? Is it useless reward or significant one like roll tickets?freebies to roll a random SS, and random S
>>1600916>>1600917>>1600919You should honestly just try it. You will always find people trash-talk things. Game is simply not quite like other games of this kind. You either like that, or you don't.I'm also not sure if that long post guy even plays the game, because weekly boss' have an easy mode available for quite a long time now, so you don't need anything but the styles to actually do it. (easy mode meaning, you can give yourself more stats)It's a gacha, and not a new one, so you'll take a long time getting there anyways, and the difficulty is gradually increasing.
Do this game have human villain/antagonist or it's strictly monster/alien?
>>1600916I mean the dialogue in the other games like Arknights is shit. The dialogue in this game is fantastic. I would not put it lower than an above average VN. >>1600917F2P friendly is nebulous. I've cleared almost everything except specific whale bait stuff. I can get any specific character I want, but I will never be able to get a majority of the roster at current freebie and release rates. If being able to clear everything and getting any specific unit you want maybe 3-4 times a year is what you mean then yes. >>1600919Score attack has score checkpoints. The main rewards are 3 tickets for a random SS, where you need 10 to roll, quartz, and S tickets. Hard Mode has more stuff that has to do with specific mechanics. >>1600931I guess I was referring mainly to Dendron and Skullfeather because I don't do the ones below anymore. With the tear update, I'm pretty sure the border was also increased because the team I normally used to do Dendron could not do so with 0 tear level. Can you do these two with 0 LB and 5 tear level? Yes, but you're going to be heavily abusing Wis/Vit attackers, Aoi, S Yunyun, etc. You are right that anything below an average player would be able to clear even with 0 LB and normal meta styles.
>>1600947So far you fight only alien monsters. The story and some character backstories have some shady people and organizations, but overall the cancer are threatening all of humanity.
>>1600875>>1600901Pirate Aina is broken because she offers both OD generation at an unprecedented level for its cost and both debuffs. For comparison it takes around 5.5 regular attacks to generate as much OD as one use of her EX skill, which is ~40-50% depending on the number of enemies. You can literally just use her EX skill whenever it comes up and you'll get to OD 2 in no time; OD 3 if you're doing stuff like drive gain too. And this is on top of her offering both defense down and fragile so once you reach OD 2 or 3 you can use the SP you gain back to start debuffing. You can make some extremely scammy OD looping teams with her too, but honestly the ability to generate an entire OD gauge on her own in 4-5 turns as a debuffer is just insane. She's one of those styles where you don't realize just how disgusting she is without first hand experience. She's really only held back not being able to hit blunt resistant enemies
A lot of you said this game story is good, best or whatever but I read that people complained the story suck so much that Jun Meda deleted his social media over that. So...?
>>1601366Maeda can't handle criticism and has deleted his social media like 5 times now. Seriously, he deleted it during Charlotte and then deleted his social media accounts again when Kami-sama ni Natta Hi ended. he deleted it all once before. With HBR, there was one event story that was kinda mid and there had been some delays with the main story, so people weren't happy and bashed him on social media, so he deleted all of his social media. Again. It's just a thing he does. But the main story has always been solid, and the complaints were more about the delays than the content.
>>1601366Read less Sankaku Complex
>>1600948The border wasn't increased, no. The highest weekly boss borders aren't even over 400, so +100 WILL allow any team to do it easily.IF you have the styles. Note that these aren't easy. Getting the stats the enemy has is more or less mandatory, but having more still makes it easier. But not by a whole lot.
With Yostar usual pic related. There is virtually no chance we are having HBR this year right? The wait for next year is so painful, bros
>>1601448Apple's app store says it's releasing in like 2 weeks. No idea if legit or a placeholder.
How well does the game run on Android? Like can a potato phone run it? I'm playing it on phone.
>>1601448It's releasing in like 2-4 weeks.
>>1601389Right, I remember checking seraph to see if it updated since Dendron was mined before the tear update since my normal team that did it pre-update was getting dp broken when they haven't for months before and they were close to the border, but +-10% rng I guess. The problem with the last two has nothing to do with the border, but missing the +1 SP on LB1 which opens up a lot more options. With full LB0, you have to abuse shit like Akarin on Skullfeather for SP, Aoi so you don't need SP to heal, S Yunyun for +1 to backline, Kura to override field for free, or a large multihit attacker which frees up a buff/debuff slot on their own that you can slot SP gen or another healer into that might be unintuitive for the average player who has set teams.
Is Yostar a good publisher?
>>1601652They're decent. Not amazing and their translations can be a bit kid mid, but they don't have a habit of shutting down gachas the way Crunchyroll or other publishers do. There are definitely way worse publishers that could have picked up HBR.
Does the HBR characters.exe thing still work? Can't find the mega.
>>1601366>this game story is goodit's battle yurishit. the story quality will hinge on whether or not you're into that shit
>>1602001https://mega.nz/folder/FEJmyT7S#JuWVjfu62qrPPpmby46x8gIt's in dialog assets. Still works for me. If you find a bug in the program itself, just post it here and I'll see it. If you find a broken pose, then I can't make any promises that I can fix it.
>>1602001>>1602152What is this thing bros? A mod for the game?
>>1602191A program to view and save character expressions as image files.
Is this a coomer friendly game?
Why are the region locking me bros
Can one of our experts recommend me a good general use team? I always ignored "high level" stuff but it's annoying to fail 16k event farming.I mainly use Charlotte and Maria as is
Is there a PC client or will I need to use an emulator to run the EN version?
>>1604256You don't need to do the highest one, it's new and pointless, max exp is gotten before that one anyways. I'm doing the second highest myself as well, as that's an easy 1 turn kill. Team-wise you wanna have 3 chars that gain exp (ideally), and 3 chars that kill. I use suit Tama lb3, Yunyun (first SS) lb3 and Irene (aka qed) lb0 for 1 turn kills.Before Irene got her upgrade, you'd use thunder Sharo, but it's a lot worse. Without suit Tama lb3, you take something like Higuchi with doping or whatever you can do really.
>>1604386We know nothing about the English version. The JP game is on Steam.
>>1604386if JP has one, I don't see why EN wouldn't
>>1604386They said the English version will include a PC release, but no word if it's Steam or a client. Steam is a safe bet though since the other versions have a Steam release.
Is there a guide or a recommended deck or something for the current season of arts battle? I just want to get the quartz and call it a day, but even the usual JP resources I use don't seem to have anything.
>>1604700https://game8.jp/heavenburnsred/605428I use this. Not the best, but it works enough in auto for normal and hard, not endless tho
>>1604431>>1604473>>1604513I see, thanks lads, hopefully it releases on steam then.
I want to play this now. I don't want to wait till 2025. Come on now Yostar
Does player EXP carry over? I feel like unlocking all the memory garden voice lines, but they might increase the level cap next chapter
>>1601377>during CharlotteWhat happened? Hetshit?
will en be the new hsr
>>1605603No, just bad pacing towards the later part of the series and the ending was rushed. People complained and Maeda got butthurt and deleted all of his social media for a couple of years.
>>1605605Deleting social media is generally a good decision.
>>1605605Why is Maeda so fragile mentally?
>>1605676You have to be to write emotional works
>>1605676Cant have all the positives without the negatives.
>>1598499Last time i checked in on that place that guy had a huge melty like three weeks ago. For some reason he larps as a lesbian woman as well, which kinda checks the /u/ tranny stereotype.
>>1605885>For some reason he larps as a lesbian woman as well, which kinda checks the /u/ tranny stereotype.this. the shittiest thing about him isn't even his schizo attacks but the way he acts like he owns and controls the fanbase like some anon already said. Whenever someone comes to the /u/ thread to ask a question or open a discussion he immediately jumps in and shuts the conversation down 'wE haVE aLreAdY DisCusSed tHiS' when it was just him unnecessarily arguing with someone as usual when nobody was looking.The second worst poster imo is the guy who insists that chapter 4.2 is the worst in the whole game but at least that guy was temporarily annoying and has moved on
>>1606031Why is 4.2 the worst?
>>1606048it absolutely isn't. That's why that anon was irrational. There was a large poll on what people thought was the best chapter and I remember 4.2 had more votes alone than all other chapters combined
>>1606048I forgot if he said it's the worst, but there's one guy claiming it was never planned to be this big and ended up being full of padding to make it comparable in length to 4.1.
>>1606055You just can't visit /u/ anymore. Especially not if you look for yuri. 85% of all threads are just naked 2D women having sex or 3D JAV or drama "yuri"(they call 3DPD yuri). The few tolerable threads are the recent release threads for manga and anime but they are also full of western yuri fans that got into yuri for all the wrong reasons. Either trannies or just in favor of yuri because of ideological reasons. That place is worse than dynastyscans.
>>1606061I like the raws threads. I've discovered a few good series to follow there and exchanged a few raw collections.
>>1606061What do you you mean by "anymore"? That place was always like that. It's a red fetish board repurposed as a general yuri discussion board by people. But to this day, retarded mods don't want the status quo to change, so they force this outdated format where one-two autists rebump dead image-dump threads endlessly and anyone who makes normal threads instead of going to the main general gets punished.
>>1606073It was a better time when everyone called each other onee-sama, which was only a small timeframe before the post 2013 world began and all went to shit. I dont even know where the fuck to meet yuriotaku on the western side of the internet anymore. >>1606064Yes, the raws thread is a good example for a not-so-shit place still left over there.
So disregarding the yuri, is the story any good? I mean, I'm neutral to yuri. Just want to know if the story is any good if I don't care much about yuri.
>>1606431Do you like Key and Maeda Jun's works? This is very similar to the style of those works (think Air, Clannad, Angel Beats and maybe Summer Pockets for something more recent). If you like them there is a good chance you will like this too.
>>1606449Can't say since I've never played any of his games before. I do play VN regularly tho. Like Higurashi, Muv-Luv, devil g-string etc. I have a basic idea that his works like to make people cry or something? Is it tragedy game? I don't usually cry when playing any games though no matter how tragic it's.
>>1606431Story started quite alright, but I'd not recommend it for story reasons. It's a gacha. Main story updates are once a year, and are 80% filler.. if you are lucky. Events are once a month and very hit or miss.Best thing about the game is the music, but you don't exactly have to play it for that.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Rt24mD_iQThis is a regular boss theme (aka nothing major) in the newest chapter as an example. (that isn't exactly new, it came out 9 months ago or so..)
>>1606532>Is it tragedy game?They are not complete tragedy and there is usually hope in some forms. I think I like his work for the comedy and SOL more than the cry parts. He also composes songs for his works and they are usually very good and fit the stories real well. I guess you should just try the game out a bit and see if you like it.
>>1606431yes, I would say it's worth it, especially since you're used to playing VNs. If you're still not sure start it anyway and play until chapter 2 (or preferably 3) and judge for yourself whether the game is worth continuing or not.
>>1606431i only played a bit but i found the characters extremely charming and the story pretty good. the music and production values in general were also very impressive.definitely play it on pc so you can enjoy the voice acting and music fully.
>>1606533>>1606534>>1606541I actually interested to play this because of the music lol. Thanks to random youtube recommendations. But obviously the story and characters need to be good too for me to play it. I do like the characters design which leave only story for me>>1606557I actually want to play it on mobile/tablet(Android). Is it bad or something? Can't stay long in front of pc anymore especially playing VN type games. Finished most of my VN with mobile or deck actually.
I thought this game is coming in less than 2 weeks? Why no promotion or hype at all? They're kinda half ass it with this launch. I'm afraid it will eos within months with this kind of treatment...
>>1606534Surely it's not just comedy and SOL here....right?
>>1606576it tries to be funny with dialogue from time to time but no, it does not qualify into those two categories at all.
>>1606574i mean any device is fine as long as you play with headphones.
>>16060484.1 was great and briefly made the story a lot more promising, but 4.2 is too Japanese for its own good. Maeda's brand of filial piety always makes for shit reading.
i just want the girls to end up happy with their respective girlfriends
>>1606685me too anon...your picrel hopefully soon. I think we're getting 5.2 news this Thursday
>>1606677The story just always goes on way too slowly. This was fine at first. Game was new, barely any content outside of the main-story. So it taking its time to establish characters and such was important.But after the 4.1 twist you shouldn't do that anymore. Every month there's an event with ~3 hours of length, every month we have several soul stories. In total the volume of side-content releasing vastly excels the volume of main-story per year. There's no more need to put in so much filler, because we know and care about the characters already.Chapter 5.1 is a good example here. The first part should've been an event requiring chapter 4.2 finished and being a requirement to access 5.1. That way it could've been focused on the thing instead of some back and forth between the main-story of 5.1 and the 31b stuff. It already had an event's structure with its 4 days.The other stuff would've been nicely done in ~5-6 hours removing a fuckton of the pointless filler dungeons and whatnot and the excuses for doing so.That way they could've released it in less than half a year, keeping up a much better pace. And this pace is needed. Looking at steam numbers, only 27% of those who beat chapter 3 (aka quite a bit of content) finished chapter 5 day 3. That's atrocious. And I will blame the extremely bad updating cycle they have, and too much filler we simply don't need anymore to this huge extend. They are even afraid releasing events requiring chapter 4!! Like how fucking sad is that?!?
>>1606786>The first part should've been an event requiring chapter 4.2 finished and being a requirement to access 5.1.When I played it, I also thought it was initially supposed to be a fragment like Iroha's one, but then they integrated it into the actual chapter. The way that storyline played out felt very event-like. And then some of the actual 2nd fragment character interactions felt like they were written after he wrote 5.1, not before, like he had to write something new because the inital idea couldn't be used anymore.
>>1606786>>1606793So the whole thing is Maeda's fault right? He should've just stick to music and give the story to someone else...
>>1606885Maeda is the reason the game is good and has yuri as well. Go shitpost somewhere else.
>>1606574LB is on switch/steam. Clannad is on mobile/switch/steam. Honestly, if you haven't played either of the two games that could be considered his magnum opus, why would you start with HBR, especially if you already play VNs regularly? I also can't believe you played G Senjou but have barely heard of Key's VNs.
>>1606885The average EN poster at work
>>1606949Why is pixiv full of hetshit? The fuck is wrong with those niggerbugpeople
>>1607005Probably because you forgot to disable AI
>>1607014real pokan moment..
>>1606938Nta but there are enough stuff around to read without knowing much about more popular works. Like I know about Yuzusoft or Black Cyc but I've barely read anything from them. And I don't think it's necessary to read previous works from an author to enjoy their newest work unless there are direct connections between the stories.
>>1606938I already said that i want to start this sorely because of random Youtube music and partially also because I'm looking for new gacha. I do not start this because of Jun Maeda nor I do care about his works much previously. I never said I barely heard of Key too. I know them ofc just didn't care to play their VN since I'm more interested with other VN. Just simple like that.
>>1607038If you don't like Maeda's works before then don't play this. This game is full of Maeda usual tropes. Besides, this is going to be a 2025 release at this rate...so satisfy your gacha games need somewhere else.
https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/124028617https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/124028617https://www.pixiv.net/artworks/124028617
>>1607092eeek
https://twitter.com/hbr_official_en/status/1854192021508165921tldr>pity goes from 200 to 150, permanent>boost for monthly and pass' quartz>AB collab soon
>>1607424Am I understanding this wrong? The monthly pass change seems worse? Also if you bought it 3 times, the reward is going to be double permanently?
This game is actually on vndb list and the playtime is 184++ hours kek
>>1607471Game is huge.
Surely JP, KR, and TW will get 150 pity during 3rd anni or when NA and CN catches up to them... right?
>>1607446You get more quartz, rest is the same. But you pay as much money for 3 months as JP pays for 1 month, if we'd do 100 JPY = 1usd conversion. (yes, far from the truth, but still fairly normal)It's actually a really good deal now, UNLESS they make the packages significantly better/cheaper. In Japan it's not really too different from just buying a big package here and there, and throwing that on paid only "selection" banners.
Karerin got her Sadness4 back. There's a new track SB0209. Otherwise nothing spectacular in this update that they didn't reveal on the stream.
Heh as soon as they described what wave was going to be like last stream I knew they were going to release a style that gives permanent buffs. And this Aoi is basically that. Cracked in wave and arts battle, an upgrade to OG Aoi everywhere else. She'll get even more broken as elemental parties start to compartmentalize their buffs/debuffs in a single style more and more, but time will tell. Now since the CN leaks are real I wonder if the "duel" gamemode means the advent of PVP focused styles
So Aoi is a must pull?
Minorifags should start a petition against wfs. I've never seen a mogging so quick and so severe in my life
>>1608258This game is PvP? I thought it was PvE only. Damn, now I'm not sure anymore.
I was confused why I couldn't find Aoi in my style list until I realized she was now an admiral.
>>1608348Minori was never good. Unless the enemy doesn't act because you have negative OD that is. Being better than something absolutely trash is common.Inori's latest style isn't better off. Nor is Chiroru's. (healer only healing light styles, completely unusable)>>1608291No. She's good, but nowhere near broken. Only if you are forced to run two sustains, because a single (i.e. Yanagi with tower upgrade) isn't enough, she will actually increase your potential damage.
Quick PSA:You don't get your life back, if you quit during the new game mode (unlike every other fight in the game).At least they were clever enough to add a practice mode, so you can still adjust your team before a serious attempt.
>chapter 5, middle third, part 1/2At this point I expect chapter 6 to be split into no less than 10 parts
>>1608852I mean, they obviously wanted to release it on the second date around the anni at first, but at some point they realized that people would fucking HATE it if they took a whole fucking year to update the story. So they rushed to finish the first half first and split it like that, some people will still hate it but not as much as in the first case.
Wild to see western coomer artists drawing HBR, I'm used to this game being JP-only thing completely unknown to everyone.
>Aoi SS4 LB3 offers 2 point care for 0 cost for everyoneThat's... pretty strong, tho I don't know about SA yet. She is busted in dungeon/art battle/the new rogue mode, same as Sumomo, but not so much against pro and secret boss.I wonder if admirals will be tailored for this specific mode or not. Sad, the new game mode doesn't give any mats for the event shop, even though every SA until now did...
>>1609018>Aoi SS4 LB3 offers 2 point care for 0 cost for everyoneIt's LB1 that does that. LB3 gives everyone +1 SP at battle start. It's definitely useful in some ways along with the instant OD+100% ultimate.
>>1608924Im a huge purityfag and i generally dislike overly sexualized yuri girls but HBR sexualizes the characters even worse.
1 week until I can read because I am a dekinai. Hope it's fun bros. If it reads like any of the VNs with usual Key comedy and drama it'll be fine. Only game I didn't play is summer pockets
>>1609081Be prepared for many jokes being too hard or impossible to translate. Game has a certain wit and humor that is distinct to japanese culture and you will miss that. Just learn japanese, dude. You will probably live longer than two years so you might as well take those two years and stop being a lazy faggot and learn a new language. It will not only make you enjoy japanese games waaaay more but using your brain for memorizing activities has longterm positive health effects. It keeps you not only sharp and better thinking in all aspects of your life, it also reduces the chances your dumb ass getting dementia immensely.
Is it really one week left? Why no announcement or anything?
>>1609103Are they not like common route jokes in Clannad/LB/Rewrite? Are they somehow more context specific?
>>1609065It's a healthy amount
>>1609106I mean, i guess real lesbian japanese women like hot girls as much as we do, but i just feel uneasy with it. While i am a vile individual fapping to all kinds of shit, like ntr, dickgirls, futa, monster girls, rape, chikan, rori etc etc, i made a rule to not onani to yuri. Or nuns. Latter rule i broke a few times and i always felt bad for it.
>>1609131I don't get people like you. It's porn why make rule for it unless it's illegal like CP? But then again you're probably just memeing/baiting because you know what game this is
>>1609143Im dead serious. You newfag probably dont even know that there was a time where doujinshi artists didnt touch certain characters at all because they respected her too much to draw porn of it. Nowadays nothing is holy anymore. I still have some girls from manga i found so incredibly cute i didnt even want to jerk off to them. Yuri is just the genre i categorically do not touch for fapping.
>>1609149I can see where you're coming from but at the end of the day it's just personal rules that's only really matter to the person in question. People have different ways to show their love to the characters. Like that dude that makes doujin for Kanon's Akiko for like two decades now. That's the kind of dedication you don't see every day.
>Admiral Aoi got added to tier 0 and even hentai mask is impressed Earnings report time really shows
>>1523378Shitty sharts shit lol
>>1609106god i love feet
anime girls are literally designed to be lewded
>>1609249you will be a woman.
Why did they region lock me, unless they plan on launching this game on brazil it seems retarded
>>1609335The JP version regionlocked you? If so, have you played on it before?
so when this game finally gets its english release, what order should you do stuff in? do you just play through the main story, then go back for the side ones? or something?
>>1609940The route most players usually go with is>ch.1 > the event they will recommend you after clearing it(Mari) > ch.2 > the event they will recommend you(Ichigo)After that you can either go for ch.3 or do a few ch.1/2 events if you want. But don't sit there too long, ch.3 and ch.4.1 contain very important plot information you need to know.One important thing is that the in-game menu that says what chapter the events are placed in is fucking bullshit and lies to you. Some anon in /u/ made an in-depth guide on what goes after what.https://rentry.org/3nfxh9zm
>>1610016On second thought, this guide isn't as useful as it is for jp players because EN won't have more than half of these events at release. We'll probably need a separate redux global version.
>>1610016Why would they lie about that tho? For what purpose?
>>16100392 sides of a coin. One the view that prioritizes a good story experience. Another view that prioritizes everything being accessible to new players and players refusing to play the main story because it's too fucking boring with its once per year update schedule, yet 80% filler.It's silly. I know no other gacha where you literally don't have to play the main story like ever.
>>1610039We don't know if it's the autism of their marketing department or some higher up retard, but they want all the events to be available to newer players, so 99% of the events are placed in either chapter 1 or 2. But the writers actually write events with the newer chapters in mind, so it creates really funny situations. For example, the event they released a few weeks ago only requires chapter 2, the chapter that was there on release. But if you look at the terrain, it's the fall season, which means it's actually set after the last released story chapter, 5.1.
>>1610044FGO kind of does that, the entire main story after part 1 is nothing but stalling out any kind of development for a decade.
>>1609940The answer is simple really. You just do things in the order they were released on jp. No need for any guides or complicated charts
I've started playing a few weeks ago. I was considering to buy the monthly pass. Do you think a filthy gaijin like me could be banned for this since I don't have a residence in japan?
>>1610206I've played since release without VPN or anything in Germany and I've had no issue. I bought a pack before, not a monthly pass, but I've had no issue.
>>1610206Ive been buying shit since forever over steam. Zero issues and its cheap because they yen got raped.
>>1610133where could i find this info?
>>1610661Here https://hbr.quest/events/?en&s=in_date&asc&p=1Also most jp wiki for gacha games also have the list and release date of past events
Dailies are going to be a pain if this new mode sticks and replaces SA half the time. Also, new Sumomo isn't that good for this mode, 70SP is way too much needed even with Mion's SP battery. Aina Pirate and Kozue seems much more useful
So this launches next week?
>>1610919No, lmao
>>1610912You should only farm normal mode. Faster, and it gives me 55k+ score which is enough to reach 3m before it disappears... if you start early. ~12 days.I still hope this is the only time they do this. Remember the high score and let players skip for more. Or at least reduce it to 1m farm.
How do you farm Nanami's bike level?
>>1611101Just run around and defeat the non-boss cancer and collect the pickups. It doesn't even cost anything and you can make easy use of the addons that heal you every turn.
At the end of the day, the new Wave mode is just a more complicated score attack geared even more for whales. It's pretty much the natural progression where they've reached the peak of the max damage meta without having to reiterate upon itself. The question now is how many speed focused styles can they release before having to diverge to another focal point. But yeah unless you have a cracked team, farming Wave is miserable, especially when there are limited quests and x2 point care going on. It is at least somewhat different, I'll give it that, but the only other positive aspect is that it has a great payout of 1.5k quartz. It's disappointing how they've failed to make an interesting roguelike twice with both Arts and this. Though I suppose you shouldn't expect a mobile game to deliver an actual good roguelike experience that would keep their servers busy. It's funny though that compared to Arts where I could at least place silver with a bit of grinding, the true whales have shown their faces this time and you'd be lucky to even make it on the leaderboard. And if you are trying to tier, the RNG coupled with the life sink is downright evil
>>1611473I feel like a "score attack" mode with RNG in it, is dumb to begin with. RNG should never be in such a thing.I also feel that hard gives too little points considering the difficulty spike going from essentially SA 120 to 140 in ONE jump. Not to forget there's also enemy stat mods, so it can get a LOT more whale than SA 140 could ever be. But a full hard modifier normal dif run is much easier than a full easy modifier hard dif run and gives no less points.I'm pretty sure people complain enough about this though. And seeing how the rankings all have the same team with styles you can use in any and all of these because they apparently don't even care about the 300% weakness, it's save to assume this was a failure.
>>1611473I'm honestly not sure if it's even possible to make a roguelike that actually uses your party the way they want it to be. Most of the characters in the roster were never designed with these modes in mind, so you have to rework them if you don't want these characters to be fucking worthless in it. I think they should either 1. Abandon the roguelike idea and focus on making normal modes.2. Embrace the roguelike and abandon the idea of using your party. Instead make it a full roguelike where you pick/roll your characters (they only have one passive and maybe one skill), pick/roll their styles (also passive) and make them roll skills roguelike-style as you progress.
Lol they really just casually announced the game will drop in 3 days lmao
>>1611855that's pretty exciting. looking forward to my eop frens finally getting to experience the joy of this game.
>>1611855I'm happy. I hope it's accelerated schedule but I have a feeling it will be 3 years behind forever like FGO.
>>1611855that's pretty nice. EN newcuties have to make their own thread and stay in their designated playpen though, preferrebly NOT on /vg/
>>1612144I don't think the GL HBR community will be big enough to keep a /vg/ thread up.
>>1612158Is this game going to be another Revive Witch?
>>1612166What's revive witch?
>>1612166Nah, this game should have a fairly small but loyal community. I can't imagine it doing worse than something like Another Eden.
>>1612171Nta but it was a gacha game. Never played my self but it look cute and charming.
>>1612171Really cute game that the devs fucked up on. It ended up crashing and EoSing. Shame too because it was a lot of fun. I doubt GL HBR will be that bad.
I did the new game mode with these kinda old styles. It's possible to consistently clear hard difficulty without relying on card rng. No OD boosters or skill refresh cards needed. Any kind of shield damage/debuff/virus card is perfect, because it doesn't interfere with the strategy at all.Yunyun is lb10 (with ult from lb2 SS1 style), everyone else is lb1.Need Misarin to clear the bird in Phase 3 + get OD loops together with Akarin early on. Beat the phase 4 cannon without using OD + use Misarin's last (5th) ice ult to get close to 2OD for the last battle. On the final boss, you have 2 Yunyun ults and 2 Tama ults left, which is more than enough damage to beat it even with 'some' extra difficulty cards applied. A few other things like aoe fragile on Megumin and orb skills is all you need. Tama is busy spamming devotion almost every turn, which is fine since there is no need to heal at any point.Those three cancers in phase 1 are key to setting up. I hope they keep them the next time this mode comes around.
>>1611855Did they mention a specific time?
Anything to watch out for as a newfag so I don't brick myself?
>>1612589Get Seika SS2, bonus point if you can get Aoi / Tama SS1, bonus for Irene SS1Do the events in release order, and enjoy the story
>>1612500https://x.com/hbr_official_en/status/18567318832012988749 AM (UTC-7).You can also Download the PC launcher from the official site and pre-download the game (it's 34GB).https://heavenburnsred.yo-star.com/
>>1611021kneel
>Downloaded 34gb>"Reminder: Failed to unzip the file">Had to download 30gb again
How big is Android version?
Is she supposed to be the MC?
>>1612889>ruka>uglyngmieven if you don't think she's cute, she'll win you over quickly, but you may need to see a doctor for that shit taste it could be terminal
>>1612897I'm sorry but that's a boy. All other girls in the class look way better than "her".I guess I will be playing for side characters this time around.
Who should I be rerolling for on GL release?
>>1612914Higuchi SS2 and Lin, everything else don't matter since all you need are buffers and one element dps.
>>1612914whoever you like
>>1612914Is there a proper reroll method? Or is it easy letting you infinite reroll until you're satisfied?
>>1612659ok, what now?
I downloaded, installed, and got all the assets. Very excited to start this game desu
>>1612911You should do us a favor and not play at all.
we love tomboys here
>>1613163does ruka even count as one? she's outgoing and a bit crass but i feel like she's still girly enough.
>>1613197She is definitely a tomboy. wtf bro?
>>1613197She's like 60% tomboy. It's easy to conflate extrovert and tomboy.
So who are the rec reroll targets?
>>1613245Idk what styles are even in the NA version with their mixed up release order so gimme a list and I'll tell you
Don't waste your money on this, just your time. This game is definitely going to eos within a year in global. Yostar is retarded.
oh boy here comes the /vg/ dramaniggers
>>1613259What are the most important ones to have for an f2p?
>>1613274everyone else is saying yostar takes decent care of their games and doesn't eos them too fast?
Truns out the game is not actually a yurige. just a huge yuribait festMy excitement: Gone.
>>1613309>yurifags like it and are super vocal about it being yuri This is like a giant red flag
>>1613309It's a gacha game and must be met with gacha game expectations. People call stuff like Arknights and ZZZ waifu games but there are no actual relationships or intimacy.
What do you think yuri means?
>>1613327A series featuring romance between women
>>1613341Little girls you meant.
>>1613341Well you're wrong there, but it's explicit regardless.
>>1613355That definition is definitely correct. The only alternative is like lesbian porn instead of romance.
>>1613355That's the most correct definition, there is a reason nearly all yuri manga is like that
>>1613356You're about 10 years too early for this discussionI know you can't help it as EN rabble
>>1613365Is this the the level of shitposter you got on this board? I have seen better bait on fucking /a/.Actual /u/fags would never disagree that yuri is romance or sex between two girls. Not exactly smart are you?
>>1613369People would argue about what makes something yuri. Somes will consider stuff with almost no romance but very close relationships between girls yuri while other will stop at cuddles and kisses. Even when it comes to sex there is different ways of showing it similar to how different the typical eroge show their hscenes compared to how it's done in the typical otomege or shoujo manga. I guess if you really invested you will start to see the differences. My image of yuri is more the "cuddle and kiss" type but I'm fine with sex if it's tasteful enough.
>>1613387I really don't care about your personal definition though. If it's not explicit romance or sex, it's not yuri, it's subtext.And HBR walks the line between subtext and explicit. There are some openly lesbian girls and there is one with a harem. Main couples get actual romantic developments, but the game still hasnt crossed the line with them.It's simply a work in progress.
>>161338799% of manga > autist arguments and definitions It's that simple
>>1613392It's more about how things are shown and not just if it's have those elements, explicit or not. And HBR seems to aim for the soulmates kind of relationships rather than straight up lovers anyway. You are also just using your own definition which is fine but I don't think everyone who like yuri would agree with you.>>1613394What are you even talking about? 99% percents of yuri manga don't have sex in them?
>>1613402>your own definitionNo you crackhead, I am using the definition all yuri communities use. You are the odd one out.And HBR is not going for a soulmates thing.
This invasion of newfags across boards is wildly out of hand.
>>1613403Come on now anon, I don't know which communities you're talking about but these kind of debates aren't even that rare. The definitions for terms like these aren't as clear cut as you think they are. For example you have the classic tsundere and modern tsundere, maybe it's time to give lesbian stuff a new name and seperate them from classic yuri. I guess I will just have agree to disagree with you and stop here.
>>1613413Wow I dont care. The definitons not vague, end of story.
Dumbfags
>all yuri communities>EOPlmfao
How cute are the feet in this game? I assume I'll like the story if I like the usual Maeda stuff, right?
>>1613441monkey girl feet >>1609106
>>1613441>feetNo bare feet except for pic related.>I assume I'll like the story if I like the usual Maeda stuff, right?Yeah.
>>1613450Those are paws. You will make cat lovers mad.
>>1613451No worries. We're all dog lovers here.
Who do I reroll for now that the GL version is out?
when is the game going live?
>>1613341Romance has nothing to do with yuri.
>>1613543They can also be bi.
>>1613327
>>1613558That retard has been made fun of for this take for ages now.
Global doesn't stand a chance does it? I've been following the game since release since I'm a yurifag, and didn't even know global was going to drop tomorrow until YESTERDAY. Where is the marketing?
>>1613574xitter, facebook, the app store. Basically any place people talk about HBR too. If you haven't heard about it yet you probably never talke to anyone.
>>1613574This shit will die faster than Magia Record.
>>1613577wtf sis, have some hope. i wager we can make 12 months.
>>1613578I have no hope for fake yuri games. And the real ones are long dead.
>>1613584The biggest retard award goes to... this random fag.
>>1613586Enjoy your two months until EoS, I guess.
New General >>>/vg/502232393
That's a load off
>/vg/die
JP chads, who do I reroll for in the GL version?
>>1613725I was told that Higuschi and/Aoi are targets for reroll and then Tama from the selector.
>>1613857(me)Higuchi and/or Aoi*Fuck my fat fingers. No clue how hard the reroll process is on global.
Is there anything certain to grab here?
>>1614363>>1614363
>>1614364Can you try that with a subject next time?
>>1614366I'd rather he never post here again
>>1614280Go for TAMAI
JPchads what is the recommended story order? Finished ch1 do I jump to 2 or is there some character stories I would prefer to do earlier?
>>1614640I'm assuming you're an EN player? If so, the simplest answer I would say is Chapter 1 > Mari's Event > Chapter 2 > Ichigo's Event > Chapter 3 > Kura's Event > Rest of Chapter 1 Events > Rest of Chapter 2 Events. That keeps to the release order pretty closely without spoiling yourself too much or being lost due to info from stories you haven't played.
>>1614644Yes sir. Thanks I'll do that. Exactly why I was asking cause we got a lot of SSR characters that weren't there on release and this order should give the story a streamlined feeling.
we have a /vg/ thread now
>>1614655Yeah, that one looks usable
>>1614674Let me guess, ESLs arguing about yuri?
>>1614691Imagine a Lycoris Recoil thread but about HBR instead and sprinkle in a few dozen posts of the exact same questions about who to roll for and which order to play the game in.
>>1614691every 2 seconds is someone asking if they should reroll or keep their account. nobody bothers to look at the tier lists provided nor do they have the ability to think for themselves.
>>1615190Well that's just a normal launch
>>1615190first time on /vg/?
>>1615251well that + weird doomposting by people who act like they want the game to do good but every post seems to act entirely against the game and playerbase. falseflaggers basically. so yes
>>1615350And those guys that try to "help" the newcomers by spoiling the entire game for no reason.
>>1614693ACK visits /vg/?
>>1613361>nearly all yuri manga is romance, as long as you only consider romance to be yurigreat argument
>glb is giving us a new event in like 5 days>i'm still on story chapter 1 and then have to play chapter 2 and like 10 eventshow the fuck? should i just ignore the new events til i'm completely caught up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Tmd2X-gAM
>>1615612If the event looks like it spoils anything from the main story, then yes. Usually they come with a requirement to have finished a certain main story chapter anyway. And if you haven't even finished chapter 2 yet, then there's a good chance that it will. You should be able to do the score attack and boss fights without playing through the event story though.
>score attack bossi don't think i'll be able to get anywhere near clearing this thing for the missions within the next 3 days...
>>1615614>self promotingfuck off
Finally reach 3000k with this rogue-like mode.They will have a lot to change if they want to bring it back again, it just takes way too much time, and worse, you can't do anything but use your stamina for rewards that aren't much better than your average SA. If you're unlucky, it can easily fuck your score and stamina over if you draw the -OD card. I guess having Sumomo lb3, tamasuit and AdAoi at lb1 together, or anything capable of charging OD fast would make it a breeze, but I don't think anyone else had much fun.Anyway, art battle's time...
