Inspired by a post from the Promilia thread. Post everything to your heart's content, your most schizo takes, your most conspiratorial theories, your MTL screenshots from obscure Chinese forums, or just random gacha related topics that don't fit in a specific general. Post 'em here.
Do you really need another thread for nonsensical ESL rambling?
>>1535625>Do you really need another thread for nonsensical ESL rambling?It would be great if they did it here and not in another games thread
>>1535625Yes they are fun to read. Don't tell me you think 697 post of "Sex with Blumine" is peak content?
>>1535625The azur promilia thread shouldn't even be a thing to begin with until they release more news (so pretty much never)
>>1535619Me on the left
>>1535619You're going to kill the promilia thread
Is it unironically over for ZZZ?
New financial report from Nexon for Q2 2024https://pdf.irpocket.com/C3659/k9D3/okT2/XsHF.pdfFrom 21/05 to 30/06, DNF Mobile made total of 41720M RMB or $6B. If we count by day, that's 1B RMB or $140M daily. This it what it took to get #1 top grossing for a month straight.In the current time not covered in the report, DNF is weaker now, HoK and LoL is beating it. We will need to wait for the Q3 financial report to know how much revenue is needed to stay between between HoK and TikTok.
>>1535765Depends on what you meant by 'over''Over' as in it will not have a cultural impact as prominent as its developers' past and rake in top of the chart revenue. Then yeah, it's over.'Over' as in EoS soon then yeah, no. HI3 is still not EoS and it has like zero fucking marketing. It will live based off marketing alone.As far as cultural impact, I wager Snowbreak is having a bigger cultural impact than ZZZ right now.
>>1535619changli sexo
>>1535619dont know what this is about, but going by your pic, i am assuming it's about character designsnearly all gachashit character designs are badever since genshin became a thing, we have been seeing a surplus of really bad, overdesigned character designs flooding the gacha marketalso want to take a moment to address the "coomer" designs, which are equally badhoyo used to create good character designs back when they were a small company, and back when they werent filled with talentless fujoszzz is only slightly better since they have toned down on the "overdesign" aspect, but it's still pretty much the same problem and only less visible due to the change in art directionthere was this one game about girls with guns, and it undoubtedly has the best character designs so far in a gachadont remember the name, but it's about girls using cover to fight with gunsthe clothing design in that game is really top-quality
>>1535841>hoyo used to create good character designs back when they were a small company, and back when they werent filled with talentless fujosI wonder if HoV was when they started flooding the company cuz afterwards the designs in HI3 started looking more like a generic chinese game. Also White Comet still best design>it's about girls using cover to fight with gunsYou mean Nikke?
>>1536088>Also White Comet still best designBased. Her whole body looks delicious in that bodysuit. nu-Mihomo could never.
>>1535727It's dead as long Manjuu remains silent.
>>1535765It's being held together by japan
>>1536314why are nips such cucks?
>>1536324Can you blame them?>the biggest wagecucks ever with almost no time to do anything at all>ZZZ gameplay is piss easy retarded>it's no open world>pretty graphics and 3D>hoyo bonusIt's just right up their alley.
>>1536336>pretty graphics About that... It just color vomit. This on the other hand is proper pretty.
>>1535778>As far as cultural impact, I wager Snowbreak is having a bigger cultural impact than ZZZ right now.QRD?
>>1536314>It's being held together by japanThat's a lie.>>1535778>'Over' as in it will not have a cultural impact as prominent as its developers' pastIt's true mihoyo is getting less relevant globally with each new game. Here's the breakdown of global server revenue for them:>GI: 30%>HSR: 22%>ZZZ: 15%
Some old storyAfter Yao Meng and Yuzhong brokeup, GFL was dying. Later, they added a skin gacha with school and Halloween theme but it didn't sell well. They finally made a turn around with Type 95's Spring festival skin, get a lot of new players and started making profits. Kishiyo literally saved GFL.However, this skin's success hurt Yuzhong's self esteem. The military story he was so proud of lost to a festival skin. That's why he didn't write her into the main storyline.
>>1536430what a petty faggotthats why azur lane stays winning while he keeps trying to find passive aggressive ways to make the pc of his game a cuck
>>1536434yeah it really feels like Mica hates their playerbase
>>1536437which is fucking weird because there was a time when yuzhong went out of his way for the players even if it cost himi dont understand whats going on with him or if he lost his final say power in what happens or what
>>1536439maybe he got divorced or something lol, the answer is always a woman
>>1536088yep, early hi3 designs were so god tierwhite comet, himeko, fu hua, rita, durandaland so many good swimsuits and other themed cosmetics tooeven the chinese dresses were actually good, like the ones valkyrie accipiter and nightsquire haveit really was a completely fucking different timeline>you mean nikke?no, it was a different gamethe character models were very high quality, and one of the girls even looks like lumine from genshinthe clothing design in that game is really good
>>1535765Five more days before 1.1
>>1535778>I wager Snowbreak is having a bigger cultural impact than ZZZ right nowI need to visit this shithole more times, it's hilarious.
>>1535619Ah finally, the dedicated clown show thread.
GFL trannies here again?
When are we going to talk about PGR? I like laughing at it.
>>1536479they're always on damage control
>literal r/gachanigger branch in 4chinmy fucking sides
>>1536430I wish Kishiyo never stuck with GFL, but only because I really want skins for my wives Washington and Oboro (from Iron Saga)>>1536480I wonder how PGR would turned out if they never kicked out the original art director.
>>1536424Snowbreak debuted trying to chase Genshin's omni pandering bucks, crashed and burned hard and was at the brink of EoS. Decided to embrace fanservice and male-focus pandering. One of their new characters, Katya, ended up saving the game from EoS (picrel).Ever since, the game has been embracing fanservice and male pandering, and the game has been climbing in revenue nonstop.Then GFL2 fucked up with its NTR drama, Snowbreak sneaky marketing welcomed the estranged GFL fanbase with open arms.Next, an extremist Azur Lane group staged a fake ad for Snowbreak featuring some feminist statements, Got exposed and countered trolled hard. Back in the day, due to low sales, Snowbreak had to let go its English VA, then when it rose back to profitability, they tried to get them back. But, the English VA refused due to the change in direction. Snowbreak said ok and let them go for good (lol)Recently, Snowbreak had to also let go of 70% of the CN VA as well. The three VAs that stayed are Cherno's (it's her first ever voice acting gig), Yao's, and Katya's. It was suspected that the VAs was strong-armed into leaving Snowbreak by Mihomo and its affiliates. Zhongli's VA was "allegedly" caught slandering Snowbreak, saying you should not be working for a degenerate game like Snowbreak, despite himself having voice-acted in an actual homo game. One of the producers of Snowbreak said: "some people who are not Snowbreak users have criticized the game content and development policy. But please rest assured, Snowbreak knows very well who it should provide services for."Anw, Snowbreak is still doing great, and as of now, it's the only gacha game where (You) are canonically married to two girls. Its comeback story is so great that nowadays, whenever a game implements some form of fanservice (that it previously hasn't), it is said to be going 'the Snowbreak route.'
>>1536551This game is fucking dogshit. Just go play a VN or a flash game with better gameplay.
someone teach this zhang to do greentexts
>decensorship getting reportedhttps://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41157510&page=2>devs hate their players so much they turned it into slaverylol, lmaohttps://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41162805https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41158540>shitty rewards from guildslolhttps://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41166593&rand=327>getting shit on in favor of WUWA: Genshit but worsehttps://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41159025300th day anniversary of using one of your girls to mock the ccp or whatever the hell, don't really care outside of spiting youhttps://space.bilibili.com/9922322/dynamicnow, for the secret I promised. that is, if you believe ithttps://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/460431175/#460479249those seemingly esl posts from january and december? that was ME. i spent hours of my time lurking those forums from october to early december to learn as much as i could, and to mimic their patterns. i did this out of fun and not real resentment, but with the way GFL faggots act, it genuinely pissed me off. this leads to a change: https://arch.b4k.co/vg/thread/463683893/#463772883i became more confrontational, to agitate you and anger you queers. i got myself to hate you, but it wouldn't be as straightforward as what comes after:https://arch.b4k.co/_/search/text/%22gfl%20cucks%22/YES, i WAS this person. my most successful endeavor yet. i permanently changed GFL's image, and i don't even regret it, not even a little bit. thank /lcg/ for the... material. by this time, this is when copycats started getting prominent. i groomed a group of people into hating GFL shit as much as i do.today? i've continued to influence as many as i can into hating this dogshit franchise of slurpers. i've spent so many hours late into the night to find more things to ruin GFL, or i'd come up with them myself. my heartrate has even gone up from how angry i've become, and i've even had dreams of violence towards GFL and chong. i wish nothing more than to see GFLfags despair, or to kill YZ with my own hands.
>>1536554I find the gameplay fun. Cope.
>>1536560It has potential to say the least. I hope devs will make good use of its fanservice money and improve upon it.
>>1536554>tranny having a melty, forgot to dilate
>>1536562Yeah i hope you like Mecha Break because apparently normalfags are into it.
>>1535841Wow, all Chinese designed garbage.Why even play this game? It's not appealing to the male gaze.
>>1536559based
>>1536567It's fun but mecha break started development before snowbreak probably with kingsoft money.
>>1536566meant for >>1536559
>>1536671Local lobotomite discovers people play games for reasons other than masturbating.
>>1535619Rayark was caught using AI art for its games, Deemo 2, Sdorica and Cytus.People found out an interview ceo claimed ai art was the future.Now these games are pretty much dead.
>>1536822People play hoyoslop for clout.
>>1536822Says the seething femcel.
>>1536822if that's true, why is ZZZ playable with onlly one hand?
>>1536834>no really im a talented wordsmith :)>i can make my AI do anything :)>it is the future :)>wtf my games are kill :(
>>1536314All anime gachas are held together by the Nips. Always have been.I don't have the graphic right now, but in 2018 the Girl's Frontline revenue was 8 times higher in Japan than from China. Not "China (Taiwan)", literally the entirety of mainland China. Azur Lane was 2.5 times higher.
>>1536430Would her design nowadays be nerfed with shorts? You can literally see everything on display. No way that would manage the transition to 3D for everyone to upload shots of her asschecks around her thong
>>1536441Girls' Frontline?
hoyo peaked at thisand they never made a character design as good as fu hua, my beloved
>>1537393they even had swimsuits back thenwho would have thought hoyo would have the worst fucking designs in the gacha market years later
>>1537397i also like the colors used for features on all characters in early honkainow a days, it's mostly weird colored hair and red/orange eyes
>>1537393I personally think they peaked at the twins. Kiana was so hot back then.
what went went wrong? is this the power of feminism
>>1537175Yes, even before the AI, these games weren't in a good place. Sdorica third season character assassined most of the cast.Cytus lost 2 of its main composers.Deemo 2 is so disastrous that the main story ended during its first anniversary.
How are the other upcoming open world gachas supposed to survive when Wuthering Waves is already barely hanging on?
>>1537627Well that explains why they aren't releasing that many male characters.
This game even had a gameplay PV https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1ia4y1q7Gk/. Looks like mixed toilets are already dying.
>>1537636Rundown?
>>1537637That particular game didn't have any drama or anything, it just had male characters. But it shows mixed toilets are now having trouble finding investors, I guess they just aren't as profitable as people thought.
>>1536554>This game is fucking dogshitName five gachas that are not dogshit.
>>1537397Don't blame Hoyo as a whole. They just released their game with the best female chara designs ever, including 4 bangers back to back either just released or about to release in Zhu (Ass cop), Q (twintailed spatsed hebe robot), Jane (ass rat), and Miyabi (elegant foxgirl). Next up is a pink haired OL. They know what they are doing this time around.
>>1537419fujobitches taking overwomen really dont know how to design charactersthey sprinkle a thousand different features in there to make the characters *sparkle sparkle* S T A N D O U T *sparkle sparkle*genshin and star rail are already the kind of games where the npcs look like they beling to a completely different game than the playable castzzz is the only hoyo game that doesnt have this issue (so far)dont know about hi3, does it even have any overworld npcs?
>>1537635Compared to Genshin they had less males to begin with.>>1537627True flops are games that make less than a 1 million a month imo. That's basically when a possible shutdown point can happen.
>>1537688it's because of waterkumahe is an outsider dabbing on all the fujobitches
>>1537688Jane and Miyabi have shit faces though.
>>1536834Are asians in general against AI stuff?
>>1537694Many Otaku are also drawfags who have a lot of clout so kinda.
>>1535841i wish there is a name or term about this kind of dress (modern wuxiaslop i guess?) because i'm so fucking sick of these. if only we do get overdesigned character designs like you said because if its true we would have much more variety if its not these then chink gachas usually throws arknights-like big jacket muted colors slops instead, wonderful
>>1537700For some reason Wuwa designs feel a bit better but they still suffer from the issues of way too many ornaments on their design. I agree that CHinese games are way into making their characters christmas trees.
>>1537688ZZZ's quality could still drop off a cliff like Genshin and Honkai, but hey, maybe they'll let Waterkuma cook (assuming he doesn't cuck out and play it safe). Still, I just KNOW they're gonna censor a certain upcoming nun
>>1537763Hopefully they shrink her model while they're at it. Looks like some obese burger.
>>1537701>anon complains about CN gacha that put too much clothing accessory on the character>Also, that issue also affect KR gacha (nikke, blue archive, etc) and most of JP gacha (Umamusume is the biggest offender of that thing).tell me that you are shortsighted anon.
>>1537700I blame FGO (faggot game online) for causing this. They making overdesign game character too much that make kancolle character are just bunch highschooler.
>>1537771BA designs are more on the similar side compared to most other gacha.
>>1537763>assuming he doesn't cuck out and play it safeCome on now it's Hoyo.
>>1537635>incels have no money>why are mega corporations with years of marketing research bowing to incels?troonbrains
>>1537635Delusion of the highest degree.Let's face it. Genshit is a shit model. 50/50 gacha, shit rewards, shit gearing system, shit dailies, mascot char that talks over the MC and regurgitate plot points. There is a reason why games that tried to be Genshit all fumbled (Tof, Snowbreak once upon a time, WuWa is the best performing one but still underwhelming). Genshit got the "first of its kind" buff plus an extremely massive Covid buff and that's final, and mihomo was smart enough to reinvest back into the game and into more marketing, thus enabling the feedback loop. >literal gender warSorry sweetheart but if a """"literal"""" gender war happened, women would lose in a month and be made into sex slaves. This 'war' all boils down to just women whining and crying while men are trying to take back their hobbies. >Komr4deWhy is it always the same communist fantasizer who holds these opinions.
>>1537777Holy hell these threads never fail to have the most nonsensical ESL posts.
>>1537815You are posting on a board where a majority of the playerbase are seaniggers
>>1537877and pajeetsall these pagjeets do is bitch about hoyo and cry about female characters wearing clothes in videogames
Why is gacha attracting so many trannies these days? Is just hoyocucks in general? Reddit brainrot posts like this >>1537635 and some here are getting way too common
>>1537890Gachas in general have been getting too normalfag-friendly since Arknights
>>1537892I guess, same shit happened to animes too if you think about it, is just full of normalfags and trannies especially on twitter.
>>1537890Mihomo introduced gacha to normies with disastrous results
>>1537787Similar side on what? Blue archive have too much clothing accessory than kancolle
>>1537890They despise anything that doesn't cater to them exclusively and seek to ruin and corrupt everything you enjoy. Anons warned gamers about this years and years ago mate.
Is your game doing well in the doujin scene anon?
>>1538023>too bad none of them are getting scanned.pngwhy the FUCK not
>>1538023I don't get it, don't people who scan like doujins related to games?
>>1537877>>1537878t. pagpags
>>1537694Yes, specially the drawfags
No mention of feminist modeler here probably because men generally don't know how boobs should look like.I hate testicles boobs.
>>1538057Not knowing anatomy is understandable, not exclusive to either sex, you have a leg but still wouldn't be able to draw it correctly
>>1538046it is common knowledge that only 3% of all manga/doujin from japan gets scanned>>1538057i don't get the difference, please explain
>>1538057Is this some new chinkcel autism? Give me breasts that look like they actually obey gravity.
>>1537890I've noticed they have a strange mentality like "incels" are the tourists around here. That the anime/gaming medium has always been "progressive" and gay pandering. I don't doubt these troons have been around for a while, since they were probably a straight male before they decided to chop their dicks off, but to pretend that the entire anime/gaming medium wasn't heavliy skewed to cater to males is delusion.
>>1538063The right has the boobs connect all the way to the armpits when there should be a gap inbetween
>>1538109That's because they are like a parasite for everything, be animes, games, comics, movies or whatever else. They can't sustain anything by themselves since they are such a small minority of mentally ill trannies, that they have to invade other peoples space/hobbies and pretend they always been there
What gacha should I play on my new iPhone 16 Pro Max next month?
>>1538057>>1538161Maybe post a real large breasted woman for a real comparison.
>>1538211Should have just been a porn game. No one's gonna spend money on a game of this quality in 2024.
>>1538211The game still needs another year of development which is understandable because they're a borderline indie studio.
>>1538211
>>1538211At the end of the day, fanservice can only carry a game so far. You still need at least some semblance of a fun game in there somewhere, and Nornium's gameplay is... well, let's not talk about it. Or the optimization and how poorly it runs.The developers, which I assume is no more than 10 people, if even that much, are clearly coomers trying to cater to others like them. And that's very based of them to do. But... for now at least, they don't think they have the technical skills necessary to release a game.I love anime tits. I would love to support them. But realistically speaking there's no reason for me to play Nornium over something like Snowbreak, which is maybe a little less lewd overall, but actually provides a normal video game experience alongside it.
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1epsrj1/mihoyo_is_planning_a_1_km_city_block_expansion_to/Manjuu Team Up with Mihoyo, Hypergryph, Yostar and Others studio to Create an "Akihabara" in Shanghai
>>1538223That's average size.
>>1538222Guess that Manjuu really did join the mixed toilet toilet gacha cartel.Hope their revenue tanks and they all become jobless.
>>1538283You're mentally ill
Japan has fallen.Billions must pull.
>>1538317Honestly, I've always found it strange how it's Genshin Impact, a Chinese-made game that's taken gacha by storm instead of some Japanese-made gacha game.It's really weird because I just genuinely don't see anything magnificent coming out from Japan in terms of gacha games. Hell, even Korea's got them beat. It feels like Japan will only start pushing something that rivals Genshin by 2030 at this point.
>>1538324Nips are too retarded to pull it off. Besides I'd rather have something more compact at this point since 90% of developers suck at open world exploration.
>>1538324imagine being beaten by a korean gacha that unironically needs you to read
>>1538324Well if you look at it objectively only Nip gacha game studios are largely small timers besides both lasengle(FGO) and Cygames(Uma/GBF/Shadowverse) suffering from massive incompetence along with other issues, so the only companies that can compete with Hoyo at this point are the AAA ones like Square but they aren't putting mobages as their primary focus along with them probably listening to western focus groups about how anime titties are the devil which isn't helping anything. Then you have the larger sub sect of Nip console players that fucking hate gacha which led to Sega's Sin Chronicles to EoS. Perhaps Cygames will one day release a Granblue successor but they wont win over the chinks if they keep their shit writers or transfer over GBF's angelic fujoshits
mihoyo wants to lower the no. of male limited characters
>>1538359
>>1538359>mihoyo wants to lower the no. of male limited charactersThat's not going to be enough judging by the last event.
>>1538359noooooooooo, i need my homo banners!! Stil makes no difference, if all they release are females, until they at least tone down the censoring, i don't care. When all the females look like picrel, what's the point.
>>1538359>mihomo team consists of mostly female staff nowadays>this female staff supposedly holds important power within the company>somehow they will release less male character for NatlanI don't buy it. Sounds like bullshit.And honestly, I don't want to either. Let Genshin keep releasing their male characters and upset their fanbase.I still remember the great tall female drought from Dehya 3.5 until Navia 4.3.
>>1538359>>1538360After their last cuck event? I call that bullshit, natlan homos will also be stronger and more relevant than any female characters, just like neuvitranny was the biggest powercreep in the game
>>1538374>natlan homos will also be stronger and more relevant than any female charactersThe keep nerfing Mualani with every update in the beta.
>>1538378>waifus characters always eats shit>homos are allowed to be the strongest and the most relevantThat is just expected by Mihomo at this point, reason why i believe that info is fake as fuck
>>1538317>>1538324because japshit is mostly recycled garbage from lazy, greedy, boomer hacksit's nothing to do with gacha and anyone actually painting this as "actual games vs gacha games" is just a butthurt faggot who cannot accept a gacha game became insanely popular because it deliveredbotw was a sensation, nintendo HAD to put their all into their next console after wii u and they didthey made a game that was praised and inspired so many developers to make their own version of "botw"but that was allafter nintendo got a taste of success, they decided to roll back to their old ways of shitting out half assed garbage that their brainless fans will eat up anywaythat's why no one even talks about totk anymorea highly anticipated sequel to the game that took over the gaming community, and it was forgotten in less than a month after it releasedgenshin, on the other hand, continues to trend everyday, especially in america
>>1538383I would like them to try an experiment, release a giga fujo pandering male, but make him weak as fuck and worthless and have little relevance to the story, see how the sales go. Because right now, they release hot girls like chiori or clorinde, but make females useless, or powerful guys like troonvillette, and everyone pulls because they're forced to, because meta reasons.
>>1538390>release a giga fujo pandering male, but make him weak as fuck and worthless and have little relevance to the storyThey kinda already did that with the retarded Kaveh, only that he's a worthless 4*
https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/s/YUTCB7H79s
>>1538359lol that doesn't matter much if they still overtune the homos while nerfing the waifus. Also, expect Natlan to have Anemo twink that will be shoehorned everywhere to unrelated quest/story.
>>1538324Because JP gacha company never cared/trust global potential. Even HBR (that's expected to have global form the start) need 3rd party publisher to go global after all these years. They prefer to play it safe within Japan rather than pursuing global success. Also they never do massive marketing like what Genshin does, even within japan.
>>1538386>genshin, on the other hand, continues to trend everyday, especially in americaBut that's just Genshin, other newer hoyo games are fading on the global stage. Genshin gets 30% of its revenue from global while their other games like ZZZ only get 15% from global markets, the rest is from Asia.
I love Hoyoverse :)
>>1538429we know tranny
>>1538427>Because JP gacha company never cared/trust global potential. Because there is no global potential, see >>1538428. Last year mihoyo pumped $250 millionon marketing HSR in the US according to ST but the US still only brings in 15% of their HSR revenue. ZZZ's US revenue is even worse just 10%.
>>1538432Seething incel.
>>1538427"Global success"They make some of the highest revenue games without leaving their own market. Let's see if Genshit is still enjoying the same success as something like Monster Strike when it's 11 years old.
>>1538476
>>1538479kek, bye zhongli
>>1538476>>1538479>Even the chinese call bullshit on him shitting on the japaneseYeah he's not getting out of this
>>1538476>>1538479honestly i prefer EN zhongli anyway, he sounds so manly
>>1538324The problem is that developers who have the resources and are interested in the global market in general make games with a more "photorealistic" or in any case non-anime/manga art direction, while other developers are content with the domestic market and being a small niche in the global one.As for mihoyo, they filled a void that the Japanese couldn't or didn't want to fill but in practice what they do is copy (badly) decades of anime, manga and japanese video games to which they add a Chinese flavor and season it with memes and tropes.
tendies are going to shit and piss their diapers when roco kingdom releases
>>1538483>>1538492Probably won't happen because he's closely tied with homos and his agency are overseeing a lot of high profile chink VA.
>>1538546I like chicken tendies.
>>1535619Holy shit, what a brutal mogging.
Wuthering Waves has jewish imagery now? I'm not sure this will go well in China.
>>1535619people actually give a shit about azur promilia?
>>1538608Nothing but chinkcels begging and kneeling to manjuu for the game to cater to them.
>>1538608It just makes me sad since they should have done lewdboat rpg instead.
>>1538369
>>1538452>incelWay to actually out yourself as an actual tranny and a tourist
>>1538368Before her release, people were saying that she looked better in-game. Well, she still looks like trash.The only good thing about her is that she seems to be wearing like a babydoll or something under the skirt and those shoulder things.
>>1538368>When all the females look like picrel, what's the point.Seethe more, troon.All the Natlan women will look amazing, specially the archon.Iconic design that mogs anything else other shitty gachas have released.
>posts Kaveh after transitioning and getting his hair dyed while trying to be bayonettaoh nononono
>>1538657thanks for proving my point
>>1538657She looks like shit
>>1538614Sounds like they shouldn't have made that shitty trendy chaser game then.
>>1538657>go out of their way to try and make a hot female>not for (you)Whats the point? They are probably just going to wind up gargling dragon cock like the entire Fontaine story turned out to do.
>>1538631zzz suffers from chinkslop writing. You can tell women are still in full control at mihoyo because the writing and direction of the story. It's 100% written by women for women. I'm some 20 hours in zzz, and i'm bored as fuck, zzz is quite the fitting name. I want to like it, but I can't get passed how boring it is, endless dialog then five seconds of boring combat designed for women to push 1 button. They tried to copy persona 5, but they missed all the charm, and edginess persona had, and most importantly a story that made you care about the characters, and made you want to see what's going to happen next. The only saving grace is the jiggle, but that loses it's novelty quick, it's still a censored game. If they are going to pander to males, they need to hire men, because women just can't do it, it's only a matter of time before gay shit and easter eggs will get snuck in.
>>1538680You forget that it is full of furshit?
>>1538680The gameplay and setting were cool, but I didn't even make it 5 hours.
>>1538680obviouslyeven the new character designs look awful, and the censorship is self-explanatory
>>1538629when boatlslut gachas with kancolle arcade gameplay dies one by one there is no future in the theme anymore..wish a better dev than idea factory made another azur lane game >>1538681anon only 2 playable furshit so far and leaks shows none of them in future, even the pig one most likely scrapped and only become npc insteadif i'm not a metafag running ice team i already forgot the bdsm wolf even exist
>>1538631>>1538738>ZZZ goes omnipandering, and even furrypandering>no upcoming males>no upcoming furries (even though I would like to see how they would handle a female furry)Lol, wtf is their plan with this shit?What do they want ZZZ to even be, then?
>>1538023How is such a high placement for Umamusume possible when the yakuza immediately presses through the crowd and starts demolishing your stand if you sell erotic Umamusume doujinshi?
>>1538742>female furryeww, anthropomorphic is all they will get, they know female furry banner would get zero sales. There is a full blown furry female though, the arcade girl, not appealing
>>1538359It’s clear the era of the mixed-use toilet is closing. But I wonder if Mihoyo will feel confident enough in the yume/fujo market that they will release a husbando game. They already have one, but it’s more VN style instead of a 3D brawler or something.I mean if I were an upper management there I would say something to the effect "considering regular player churn, we will probably have the big female playerbase from Genshin for at least another 4 years. We need to release a game targeted at them in that timeframe"
>>1538419Scarafag will definitely have an entire update just for him.They are setting the revival of Durin and he'll be part of that storyline even when he absolutely had no business in there. It should've been entirely for Albemid.
>>1538680>and most importantly a story that made you care about the charactersWHAT the hell are you even smoking. Persona 5 characters were hot garbage and none were likeable, none had a very good story. Just tell me of two instances that you think are very well written re the characters.You misremember. How can you have nostalgia already for a 2017 game?Persona 5 lived on style alone combined with decent combat, like ZZZ should attempt to. The whole package is greater than the sum of its parts.
>>1538536>make games with a more "photorealistic" or in any case non-anime/manga art directionThe nip gaming industry had the advantage? well by now disadvantage, of emerging from nerd culture that only emerged in parallel to the anime/manga nerd culture. Because of that they developed a different style from it much more strongly than Chink gaming has, where it's a direct outgrowth of ACG culture. Jap gaming of the PS2 era looked detailed enough that you for the first time can talk about a distinct "Jap 3D vidya" style. You know the one I am talking about: the generic realistic JRPG style like e.g. the Final Fantasies, Dead or Alive, etc. use. They are still cute and aesthetic, but not exactly anime.The issue with that style is that it's way more easily co-opted and corrupted into a Western-tastes compatible style (see Resident Evil). It has less profile. The anime style is a bulwark against this infiltration.As mentioned, unlike in Japan were gaming nerd culture emerged in parallel, Chinese gaming nerd culture developed from an outgrowth of wider otaku/weeb/anime culture, so they are perpetuating that style in games it seems with much more enthusiasm than the Japs do.You have to remember, the decision makers in Jap gaming companies are probably all in their 50s-60s (I CANNOT imagine someone in their early 40s). They grew their career under the old paradigm where gaming and anime are very separate.
>>1538657>Calls others trannies>But plays a tranny cuck game
>>1538678Mavuika is built for BXC (Big Xbalanque Cock)
>>1538772Noelle situation was very funny, on par with Nilou and Yoimiya in my opinion.The girls were really an into (you) characters and hoyo made them cuck (you).Noelle with this twink faggot, Nilou with scarashit and Yoimiya with tortilla, lmao. What's next? Ayaya and Shenhe will also cuck (you)?
>>1538742honestly no ideareminds me of another gacha i played (aether gazer) where it starts mixed toilet but then goes almost waifus only except zzz already plan to do it while AG only do it after 3 back to back homo banner flopfest.
>"we want to add yet another unicorn outfit">"let's put her in a cheerleader outfit this time">"make the pose so that she's jumping">"it'd be better if it's a slightly low-angle shot">"and oh, please make it safe for work"Luv me some tease lane
>>1538808gacha cartel won't let manjuu show panties, please understand.on a side note, saw highlights for the anni, was incredibly disappointed, may aswell just be any other month. I haven't logged in for a month or two, not coming back still.
>after 6 years, the pinnacle of azur lanethis shit looks awful, did their L2D team quit? There will be simps who will gobble up this slop is the worst part.
The problem is not mixed toilet, but oyohim.ToF and the upcoming NtE are also mixed toilet, but we don't see the fucking artistic decline we has seen in oyohim games (genshit, honkai part 2, zzz). Roslyn, Anka are still solid designs that I bet nu-oyohim couldn't make anymore.So what is the key point that made oyohim declined so much, aside from their usual arrogance?It's fucking the XXNs! Yes, the feminists menace! When a company incorporated a large mass of XXNs, it would go on irreversible corruption, just like the Indians menace in western companies.Hence all works from nu-oyohim have a too heavy feminist taste, the infamous "All girls, don't quit" of Fontaine era was a clear example. What is the point of releasing all female characters, when their designs totally suck and not pander to male playerbase at all? The Yomi painter incident and how oyohim handled it, totally proven that nu-oyohim is corrupted fully, and irreversibly (mind you, Hypergryph, a famous mixed toilet company, had stopped working with Yomi in the past when they learned of her feminist tendency)XXNs feminists are the greatest disaster that could fall upon a gacha company. We have seen them they ruined oyohim. We have seen they killed GFL with Raymond. We have seen they nearly killed Wuwa (lucky that it was stopped in time, but the XXNs still haven't been ousted from Kuro yet, "it's not that they know they're wrong, it's only that they know they would die")
>>1538820>the infamous "All girls, don't quit" of Fontaine era was a clear exampleExplain.
>>1538824Last year, when genshin playerbase morale was in all time low (due to gayshit and scara 3.6 fiasco), the leakers (oyohim eunuchs) had said that "(Fontaine will have) All girls, don't quit" to keep players hopium level high.But then whole Fontaine would full of Furina, Navia, Chiori, Arleckino, Emilie, all of them a very neutral characters without pandering to "male gaze" at all. So now even with 404 leaks, players won't care at all. Indeed, when I see Anka skin in ToF, Shorekeeper in Wuwa 1.3, and compare them with Natlan "girls", kek who will care about Genshin at all, aside from mihoyo slurpers?
>>1538828NTE and Wuwa girls look like garbage blud, they appeal to feminist gaze. The white haired lingerie girl in ToF looks nice, but too little too late. On top of that hotta banned ML discussion, can you give a bigger fuck you to men than not even letting them vent.
>>1538820>>1538828I feel like an 18th century explorer in the amazon talking to locals, >oyohimmihoyo backwards for some reason?>mixed toilet>XXN>infamous ______ event>gayshit (in regards to genshin)>scara 3.6 fiasco (I assume also related to genshin)please sir tell me what the fuck any of these mean, I must not rest until I'm up to date on the gatcha basketweaving forum terms
>>1538828>whole Fontaine would full of Furina, Navia, Chiori, Arleckino, EmilieAnd then everyone got early bombed with lyney, neuvillette and wrio. With only 2 female reruns and 3 male reruns too.
>>1538832Sir, this is gacha drama thread, so pardon my rudeness, but I hope you would have schizoic ability to automatic decode strange terms.>oyohimold /hig/ lingo, a meme way to call mihoyo (-im is hebrew plural suffix, which quite apt for this jewish company). Correspondingly, in chink forums, Mi-san is the nickname when you really hate mihoyo (quite apt for this japanese company), people who wrote mhy in chink forums (mihoyo in the west) are neutral to mihoyo, meanwhile Lao-mi, or Mi-jia (hoyoverse in the west) is the sure sign to detect slurpers.>mixed toiletif you don't know this term then you're not the target audience of my post.>XXN"little fairy", a derogate term for feminists in chinkland>infamous ______ event>gayshit (in regards to genshin)>scara 3.6 fiasco (I assume also related to genshin)You're not a genshin player, I assume. So here is content in brief. The 3.6 event of Genshin coincided with a long period of no limited waifu banner in the game and fujo gay shipping between male characters. Moreover, in 3.6 event, Scara, a controversial in Genshin cucked the player from Nahida, a famous character with (you)-pandering before. Hence the shitshow which was quite comparable to Genshin 4.8
>>1538828>without pandering to "male gazeChiori literally looks like a courtesan.
>>1538828>Anka skin in ToFSafehorny garbage>Shorekeeper in Wuwa 1.3Black Swan of HSR bootleg but white>and compare them with Natlan "girls"End up getting demolished by the Natlan women, your point?
>>1538839I played honkers impact a little before genshin release but never took a stroll through the general thread. in any case thanks for the rundown old chap, I'll be sure to mention you in my biography once I get back to the royal museum
>>1538819The animations for this looks like dogshit.
>>1538841Chiori is the attempt to design a classic femdom archtype that lookdown on players. But in the game, we couldn't feel it at all, Chiori felt very "alienated", on the outside, right the design is quite sexy, but that face and story really ruined the mood. A same thing happened with Emilie.>>1538844you're a oyohim slurper, that's my point. There is no cure for that "advanced aesthetics" of your
>>1538657It's so fucking funny that hoyohomos think that that character design is "sexy" and that they are "winning" while simultaneously praising pic related. They are well and truly cucks, they want more attractive females, but not for them.
>>1538851They like to watch, reason why their protagonist is a camera and is treated as such in the game
Another example of oyohim corruption is Acheron.If Raiden Mei and Raiden Shogun still had that "weebness" feel, then Acheron is totally different.For me, Acheron design is quite "normal", that is you could find her in modern Final Fantasy instead of a weeb game.
>>1538855>modern Final FantasyModern FF is censored garbage thanks to Square enix kneeling to DEI bullshit
>>1538858yes, and that's exactly my point.
>>1538844Right looks like straight garbage, it baffles my fucking mind how this company has made into the billions of dollars and THIS is the best they can do. Just look at left here >>1535619. People are literally eating up minimal effort trash and praising it. Hope you enjoy the 4 rolls next anni.
>>1538851>this out of context pic some retarded chinese incel made againLol, I also played the event and all of this shit was absolutely overblown by incels.
>>1538844Bro, it is literally impossible for Genshin to have sexy females at this point. The xxn's will never let it happen. Not only that, but the game itself is also just graphically inferior to pretty much any newer gacha game. The female designs are always going to be as safe as possible so that they don't have to deal with another Rosaria situation again with several rounds of censorship later.Genshin females are never going to have actual tits again, only monoboobs with no cleavage.Genshin females are never going to have properly shaded asses again, only black voids and bloomers.
>>1538860>minimal effortWere Pokemon sprites, games that were expected to run well on Gameboys, "minimal effort"?
>>1538855didn't the fanbase turn her into a lesbian, or was that mihomo? all i see is lesbian art of her, i'm like wtf this is ruining my faps
>>1538868Hi3 Mei - Pretty muchGenshin Mei - people obsess over her and MikoHSR Mei - they tried yuribaiting in a trailer, but literally nothing happens in game. She is more for (you) in game, but it is mihomo so that mileage may vary.
>>1538866>never going to have actual tits again, only monoboobs with no cleavageMavuika literally has of the biggest boobs and also shaded cleavage. Wish I had saved the in-game pic, tho.>never going to have properly shaded asses again, only black voids and bloomersWho the fuck cares about that when we'll have boob-pussy zipper? More sexy than some panties.
>>1538870That's the kind of cope hoyocucks must have while keep playing this shit? Also using a fanart too, with the protagonist that is nothing but a camera >>1538852 and with a character that is going to get shipped with the dragon
>>1538865Because you're playing English, retard. Translating to another language makes the script lost a lot of hidden aggressiveness.For example, the nickname of Scara in en is Hat Guy, with a sense of joking, so you wouldn't feel threaten.But mind you, the nickname of Scara in cn is A-Mao! This is quite similar to how the ruskie call Alexander Alyosha, a name with a sense of closeness.And then Nahida said in 3.6 event, "Isn't Amao sound nice?", and how she acted distant from Lumine/Aether, well totally cucked!In 4.8, we again see Nilou called "Amao" again, hehehe (however, in JP it's with -san suffix, instead of that annoying -kun during 3.6)Moreover, in EN version, Nilou said her legs were tired, but in CN version, it's her legs were itchy, kek. That means she's totally discomforted with MC in her lap, just like a bug causing her to itch>>1538868The difference between Raiden Mei to Acheron, is yuri to extreme lesbo stuff. Yuri stuffs are cute, but anti-male lesbians are another level.
>>1538873Is going to get shipped with zhongli because the JP seiyuus are married
>>1538874Take your meds.
>>1538875So cuck shit regardless anyway
>>1538868yeah hoyo made her yuribait with black swan in one video and maybe like 4 lines at the beginning of 2.0. But since that was at a time where we barely knew anything about her the mentally ill part of the fanbase declared that she was a lesbian and that basically killed artists' interest in drawing her for straight porn so they don't get screeched at.
>>1538878Those mentally ill yuritrannies also attacked other artists that made Arlecchino and Clorinde fanarts too
>>1538876denying it won't make you not a camera, cuck
>>1538880>that last Scara lineFucking kek. He's even more for (You) than the fucking girls, ffs.
>>1538865You can sense their fear even from the other side, those twinks act like they're on the brink of extinction which, to some extent, is actually happening.
>>1538880>take things as is>"oh no you're in denial, the truth is *schizo ramblings*"M E D S
>>1538881Yep, that line in the EN version is also "nice". But at least Nilou is not as annoying as in CN>But...he is...my...my legs...are itchy...>A Mao, why didn’t you put him on the grass next to you?
>>1538880How did my legs are itchy get translated into my legs are tired? Nice translation.
>>1538886Because the translators are nice people, so they change it to>Uh? But my... my leg's falling asleep...
>"It's just incels and chinks saying that is cuck shit, we totally didn't got cucked multiple times already, pls believe us"kek
>>1538839You sound pretentious as fuck. Stfu
>>1538891Shut the fuck up you little illiterate bitch.You contribute to that stat that n% of American adults read at a third grader level.
>>1538889>mfw kana ueda approves of the shipyep, it's definitely a canon cuck game
>>1538889>ESL rambling>random schizo underliningParody post
>>1538904imo, she had the approval from mihoyo to ship that pair
>>1538906>muh esl>muh schizoCope you still got cucked>>1538907>Official cuck pairingdamn
>>1538909>Official cuck pairingI heard that nips are very careful when posting with real name account in twitter. So as a professional seiyuu, she knew how significant her post can influence things, so no way she did that without mihoyo agreement. We all know that Japan is a country where an idol having boyfriend is scandalous
>>1538866>it is literally impossible for Genshin to have sexy females at this pointSignora was easily one of the best designs ever, but hoyo just killed her off because they couldn't figured out what to do with her and how to tone down her amazing design
>>1538913>has a canon love interest Yeah that one was never happening.
>>1538912I don't doubt either
>>1538913killing her was a xxn humiliation ritual, meanwhile scaramouche gets to roam around taking your girls
>>1538870I am curious about something MihoyoSlurper, What do you think about this image? >>1538772Also>Mavuika literally has of the biggest boobs and also shaded cleavage. Wish I had saved the in-game pic, tho.This 4 star character from Wuthering Waves have bigger tits and ass than every character from Mihoyo.
>>1538918If this were true he would've interacted with Mona in Simulanka because that's his most popular hetero ship.
>>1538946Mona and Fischl don't remember Scara anymore.
>>1538819mogged hard by BD2 kek
>>1538953All the more reason to use that as a launch pad for a new ship
>>1538889That's the thing. They don't know they're being cucked cause and they've never known what it's like to be uncucked, that plus the fact that feminism has indoctrinate them completely
Natlan has some nice character designs I admit.However, they 100% will be desecrated by the Genshit's outdated engine and lazy modelling (gotta fit it into one of 5 fixed body types and a few of already rigged cloth bones)Plus, she will suffer the eventual fate of a mihomo female, which can one go in one of three directions:1. Be sidelined for a homo.1. Be shipped with a male that is not (You)1. Be shipped with another female (the worst fate, because of the mentally ill crowd it will enable)
>>1538874I know it's bad but... HOLY MENTAL ILLNESS.
>>1538939And this...errr basically 4star character from PGR (same publisher as WuWa) has even bigger titties and ass
>>1538749>I wonder if Mihoyo will feel confident enough in the yume/fujo market that they will release a husbando game. They already have one, but it’s more VN style instead of a 3D brawler or something.And they won't make any money. LAD is raking it in because it's an OTOME arpg game, not just an otome ARPG game, the arpg part always takes a back seat. Girls aren't into action games for their gameplay.
>>1538820>The Yomi painter incidentQRD?
we stay winning
>>1538839>The 3.6 event of Genshin coincided with a long period of no limited waifu banner in the game and fujo gay shipping between male characters. Moreover, in 3.6 event, Scara, a controversial in Genshin cucked the player from Nahida, a famous character with (you)-pandering before. Hence the shitshow which was quite comparable to Genshin 4.8Holy fuck you weren't kidding, Genshin's revenue was pretty steady until patch 3.6 hit, then it dropped hard and never bounced back.
>>1539026>we stay winningEnjoy your "nuanced and genshinpilled" love stories kek. Every new girl they add makes the (You) pandering less and less relevant.
>>1539033schizo
>>1539026What a cutie
>>1539033what game is even this shit to have such a tranny chart?
>>1539027And it will never bounce back.Hoyo playerbase is way too disperse now with their 3 games. And that isn't exactly a good thing unless they attract new players to each one of them.
>>1538819That's comically bad l2d. Countering with good l2d.
>>1539039i literally thought the same thing, what kind of mentally ill troon came up with that shit
>>1539043it's sadge that bd2 devs probably get a quarter of what azur lane devs make, yet azur lane devs put no effort into their game, while bd2 is constantly improving it.
>>1539045Bd2 is on the rise after a successful 1st anniversary. The new swimsuits should continue the trend.
>>1539039>what game is even this shit Eversoul, it is a typical autochess gacha game where (You)'re literally the world's savior. Players are pissed lately because the bond stories have become less focused on the (You) pandering, they said the latest love stories didn't end with marriage or pregnancy so they feel like they were getting friendzoned, hence the "nuanced" complaints.>>1539045That's because AL has a self insert while BD2 doesn't so AL makes more money.
>>1539056There's actually talk of having a self insert in bd2 and adding affection/waifu mechanics. They added another season pass this event that's paid, that's never happened before(usually just 1 f2p pass). They're definitely trying new things to make money.
>>1539043taimaninbros.....
>>1539045>>1539045>>1539051Brown cuck 2 will never be popular and is fighting to not get EOS like brave nine>>1539059>There's actually talk of having a self insert in bd2 and adding affection/waifu mechanicsToo late for any of that, the game is already tainted with cuck shit, putting a self insert would literally make shit even worse than already is. Shit even baits fucking orc rape >>1539043
>>1539071Seethe more fag
>>1539075>posting a girl with someone else cum on it other than (you)No wonder you guys are the joke of any waifu gacha, fight harder to not get EOS like brave nine cuck
>>1539056>Eversoul, it is a typical autochess gacha game where (You)'re literally the world's savior. Players are pissed lately because the bond stories have become less focused on the (You) pandering, they said the latest love stories didn't end with marriage or pregnancy so they feel like they were getting friendzoned, hence the "nuanced" complaints.Why are they doing that? Trying to attract the normalfag audience by removing (you) pandering like nikke? Also idk what is the context of pic related, by any girl saying "let's stay as close friends!" is a huge red flag for a waifu game, is the mc getting friendzoned there?
>>1539082maybe trying to follow the blue archive formula, where all the girls blue ball you and keep everything platonic, or like some troons think "nuanced"
>>1539077I can see you are crying at the thought of another gacha becoming more popular. I'm sure someone with common taste like you only plays the most popular self insert gacha.
>>1539086>blue balling their players after they already had good fanserviceBlue balling is already bad enough, reason why i don't even bother with BA, but if get this correctly doing this after they already establish themselves as a decent fanservice game sounds retarded. Like, is one thing to start as a blue ball and platonic like BA, but changing mid course is to piss off players is just stupid
>>1539091>cuck coping hard>popular when is fighting to not get EOS like brave nine>talking shit about self inserts when your shitty devs are desperate trying to find a way to add one >>1539059Shart Dust 2 cucks like you are delusional. But hey, don't forget to clean the orc cum out of your waifu faggot
>>1538746The fuck is that half-baked creature? At least go full kemono or something.
>>1539102>redditorSad you have to come here to shitpost because they would ban you on your site.
>>1539019I'm too lazy to recall that (need to search arca.live again, and I don't have experience lurking it as with Tieba or NGA), here is the reddit post instead: https://www.reddit.com/r/GenshinImpact/comments/187gdys/genshin_impact_controversy_in_korea_hate_speech/this reddit post was from a gook player.Basically, the artist Yomi, who works officially at oyohim and designed Furina and Faruzan, was a gook girl. Initially, that fact made gook playerbase pretty proud, but however, they discovered that Yomi was a fucking femnazi and that is a big no-no in KR. So the KR playerbase complained to oyohim, but oyohim ignored them (they even rented a hot-air balloon to protest against oyohim).After this incident, Genshin KR never recovered and now it totally lost against Wuwa in KR market.>>1539027All of what I wrote might be not true totally (how could I really know everything correctly?), but I guaranteed with you that all that info are what I collected after years of lurking CN forums. The sentiments of playerbase are undeniable, I only reported what I have seen and read, nothing more nothing less. I'm an old Genshin player, and also a Honkai 3rd player from the end of 2019. At first, I was also a mihoyo slurper, but after being disappointed with Zhongli incident and how they disregarded Kiana Mei ship to promote Kiana Fu ship, I completely became disillusioned with oyohim and began to lurk Tieba/NGA by using google translate, then gradually discovered a lot of bad deeds mihoyo had committed before in CN. It also made me maybe the only /hig/ger who stayed neutral during bunny girl incident, despite the fact that oyohim only "cucked" the CN playerbase, while global was the one who won.Because I understood that if oyohim could treat CN players like that, then in the future, they could also treat me the same. And I was fucking right later, as Dehya shitty kit had proven that oyohim never care about players at all.
>>1539116>he must be a *ledditor*Tick tock Shart Dust 2 cuck, you're next Don't forget to clean the orc cum out of your waifu btw
>>1539116>Thinking being banned on reddit is somehow an own.
>>1539122lol nice try shay. That's actually good for BD2. More manpower and resources. Also, the game are already 7 years old. It actually hold pretty well for a game with niche player base.
>>1539102>all waifu games earning less than 20mWhat killed male pandering? Are chinkcels all bark and no bite?
>>1539188>Also, the game are already 7 years old. It actually hold pretty well for a game with niche player base.B9 made 10 times more than BD2 btw, it’s never a game with niche playerbase.
>>1539197>all waifu games earning less than 20mThey're doing pretty damn well, even fucking MementoMori is pulling in $3 million a month on zero budget, which is insane. What's really hilarious is that mihoyo has already capped out the omni market, releasing a third game and not seeing any increase in average revenue is just pathetic.
>>1539096>>1539086Why else do you think they picked the name "Blue Archive"
>>1538141https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1epsrj1/mihoyo_is_planning_a_1_km_city_block_expansion_to/Manjuu Team Up with Mihoyo, Hypergryph, Yostar and Others studio to Create an "Akihabara" in ShanghaiRemember these names, they will be known as the gacha cartel. They aim to monopolize the market, destroy the competition, destroy (You) pandering.
>>1539226You already posted this retard >>1538222
>>1539197Revenue doesn't mean much when you haven't taken cost into account. Mihomo has the largest marketing budget, literally double the second place which is Tencent. Their games are expensive to made, especially Genshin. Meanwhile, WuWa, despite being mixed toilet, has very strong (You) pandering. Changli story quest is (You) practically getting engaged to her, plus you get to groom her loli version. Then there's Nikke, a simple L2D games, yet it has been making banks. Its recent decline is due to, guess what, toning down the (You) pandering. Absolutely retarded.
>>1539234>literally double the second place which is TencentNot double, it's three times bigger than Tencent's marketing budget.
>>1539206You are supposed to compare it to other game with not niche player base.
>>1539206BD2 barely made any money because the game is way too generous. You can pretty much get every unit while being f2p(true). There's no need to pay unless you really care about ranking or being an absolute lucklet. That's why they're adding new paid pass.
>>1539188>from it must be *le reddito*>to it must be *le shay*Seeth cuck, go on and clean that orc rape cum before your game eos>>1539306Cope, that cuck game is just ass and not one wants to play it, legit has shit name on it
Tencent nopes out
>>1539345Didn't Tencent help fund Girl's Frontline 2 and Wuthering Waves? Looks like they see the writing on the wall that gacha games are quickly becoming unprofitable due to too much competition, out of control marketing costs and companies that hate their own players. Tencent is greedy but not stupid.And among upcoming gachas I only have hope for Azur Promilia, everything else looks like mixed toilet that will die. Other than that Roco Kingdom looks fun but apparently that's not a gacha.
>>1539345Probably for the best "empty" world gachas are a meme and games like HSR are going to be the future.
Why did MICA have to shit the bed? I just wanted another game with cute for (you) girls with guns.
>>1539345Wuwasisters...
>>1539360Because Yuzhong was dumb enough to leave GFL2's story to a bunch of randos.It's sad really-GFL2 could have easily been MICA's Genshin/Nikke (ie their big comeback in the gacha industry that saves them from falling into obscurity and cements them into the big leagues), but they fucked up so bad they lost to Snowbreak, a random GFL clone that didn't even have ties to some big chink company like Arknights, Blue Archive and Nikke did
>>1539359Do you even read?It clearly says that they want larger scale games. Not 2D shit like jpg collectors anymore.
>>1539389"Two-dimensional" in this context is how chinks call gacha games bro.
>>1539389dnf is the game they're referencing, it's 2d, it makes more than genshin
>>1539345problem with these gacha games is they all follow trends instead of setting a new one themselvesi have seen so many games after genshin released badly trying to be the "next genshin", that's not happeninggenshin was the first of its kinda "free" botw clone available on pc, phones, consoles that came out during covidpeople had nothing to do, controversy helped advertise the game, it was the first gacha to most peoplelet's see what else is coming up next, we have project mugen (unclear whether they will copy trends from genshin), nte (already looks like an urban reskin of genshin, even ditching the character creation/customization feature that made tof stand out), azur (pretty similar to genshin and wuthering, with collectible monsters)it's the lack of originality that makes these games just not worth tryingi wish some gacha developer did something other than "log in daily to collect poorfag gems", "grind for time-gated materials", "smash your way through visual-novel slop", "roll for the new hot toy to keep up with the meta"there's potential in these games, but there's also unimaginable greed and lack of passion
>>1539472>lack of passionit also doesn't help the a good chunk of the devs that work on these games hate the players.
>>1539359mugen has something going on with its overworldthey did say they have activities planned out for the players to experience in the overworld, but like i said, it is yet to be demonstrated in actual machineit does seem to have potential, guess we wait until september 17th to seeultimately, these developers will need to realize they have to make the overworld highly interactive to make exploration interesting and refreshingotherwise, even a corridor-based game could be engaging if effort is put into making it lively and interactive>>1539389that is a givenas we move ahead, it becomes easier to develop large scale projects that are supported for a long timethe problem is these developers just dont put the effort into areas that matter>>1539474yesand that comes from greed, either it's a call from the investors or they genuinely are getting away with treating their own audience like crap and making moolah out of itunless some developer shapes the market with good practices, there is simply nothing to hope for
>>1539333you need to be over 12 to post here
>>1539472>wanting something original from chineseThat's your first mistake
>>1539345Genshin leak bar oversea division?
>>1539481>Boogieman's didn't work, so lets jump to another onecuck still coping with his flop of a game kek. At least taimanin cucks are honest about their cuck game, unlike shart dust 2 fags
>>1539529>taimanin cucks are honest about their cuck gameQRD?Which taimanin game?
>>1537694>>1537699While pro-AI art advocates are currently leading with a 60:40 margin against the opponents, there remains a strong group of AI critics who oppose any form of AI-generated art what so eveh. They even target AI art used in town festival posters by county councils, and cancel their orders when they discover it's used in games.However, as seen with the relpic controversy, if you're copypasting and editing other people's pictures or tracing lines from photographers without their consent, what’s the difference between that and AI art?
>>1539545anti-ai cucks btfo in 1 image
>>1539535
>>1539552kek, that's bad
>>1539552LmaoWell, orc cock is part of the taimanin universe so there's nothing to do. It's part of the franchise charm.
>>1539545I honestly think that like 90% of the "real" artists are frauds so maybe that's why they seethe so much about AI
>>1538993It's fucking hilarious that genshin still is using generic models and animations, while wuwa, which makes like 1/10 of the money, has unique animations for 80% of the cast (some do use generic animations). It also has unique animations when you summon a 5 star
>>1539120>never care about players at all.That's not true, they reverted the homo nerf after fags and holes cried.
>>1539556>>1539560The mechanic was that if you didn't log in for 7 days in a row or something, your girl got orcked, pretty good incentive to keep playing kek.It just was a login campaign in the end though.
>>1538317My prediction is that China will go down the same way after the Genshin high. Japan was initially enthusiastic about making good gacha but they've been in it for many years more. All the top games in the industry are already cemented. There is no more enthusiasm to make another big gacha. Once the Chinese realize they can't get people to be excited for another open world and the hype dies down, the Chinese will also take less risks. All the failing, smaller Chinese games will set this trend.
>>1539567Well, nerfing neuvillette almost a year after his release was indeed retardedIdk what was hoyo thinking
>>1539564little things like animations are throw aways, waste of development costs. Genshin focuses on the things that matter like content, gameplay, story etc. I'd rather have compelling things to do, than little animations to stare at. Every summer, we get an entire continent and quest line, with voice acting and story, just for 1 event. Way more work goes into that than little flashy animations.
>>1539569>It just was a login campaign in the end though.Still a cuck game, but at least i don't see the majority of taimanin cucks pretending that is not
>>1539564What's funnier is that there's absolutely nothing they can do about itTweaking released models would suppose a huge investment, and while I read somewhere that the natlan characters supposedly would be better modeled, from what I've seen they seem to be exactly the sameGenshin is indeed outdated and it will remain outdated until eos
>Thrud died>Artery Gear will die>Nornium dyingIn all of mecha musume, AGA alone really is the honored one.
>>1539579I'll bite, why can't they give use voice acted events AND animations? It's separate teams. Guess the player base is so cucked at this point that they prefer random NPCs to be voice acted than the units they roll to have unique animations.
>>1539579>Genshin focuses on the things that matter like content, gameplay, story etcWhy are you here lying? All i see is Gayshitters crying for years how this game has no content and is all shitty mini games, spamming Q and E is not gameplay either and their story is fucking dogshit that can't be skipped.>summer event You mean the one where you guys just got cucked? No thanks
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>>1539589lmao toddlers game
>>1539582FFXIV did it, and it has way more assets that genshin will ever have even if it keeps going for 10 more years, so it is possible but they will never do it, the players are too cucked at this point and accept everything. Redoing 1 or 2 characters per patch, like adding 2 or 3 new animations, new FX on their attacks, and upgrading the texture quality and physics (I still laugh when I see ayaka's armor flutter like it's made of cloth) should be perfectly possible, heck FGO did it in the pass (but they got bored with it). Arturia and Gilgamesh got updated twice even.
"Mixed toilet game" has to be my favorite slang of this genre
>>1539576The two top Nip gacha games are literally a png collector that could also have been on the Nintendo DS, and a horse idol simulator.The Nips could try anything and they’d succeed. Like make an actual 3D gacha game.
>>1539567>That's not true, they reverted the homo nerf after fags and holes cried.That's because you doesn't lurk. Neuv nerfed was fucking stupid and borderline on real scamming. I was heavily browsing CN forums that day and it's full of angry mobs howling against mihoyo, both male and female, whales and non-whales, there is no other time that from weibo to tieba, from nga to bilibili could unite so much. Shills could only weakly defend against the mobs, and many angry whales even banded together to write reports directly to Consumer Protection Association and consulting lawyers to sue oyohim.According to a rumor from nga, that day the Shanghai Consumer Protection Association directly called Mihoyo to ask them clarifying about the matter of Neuv nerf. No wonder oyohim directly reversed the change midnight, not even waiting for full day.So don't believe about mihoyo listened or not, that's not true. If you found somehow "dev listened", it's not because mihoyo listened to your demands, but it's just coincidence that your taste is luckly coincide with mihoyo current development strategy, that's all.Remember, about mihoyo, there is only one motto: "AWWBWG", in Chinese it means "Love then play, if not then fuck off". You have no right to demand mihoyo anything at all, instead you must be grateful of them for allowing you to play their games.
>>15393892D is the Chink term for anime. It gets inaptly translated by machines.
>>1539579Interesting...Story: let's be serious, genshin has a lot of potential when it comes to the story but the writers are mediocre and sometimes they have ridiculous ideas and above all mihoyo is more interested in money than storytelling otherwise many characters would have ended up like Signora, especially in Sumeru and Fontaine. There would be a lot to say but let's leave it at that.Content: the story quests concern the NPCs except for rare cases. Due to mihoyo's obstinacy in not making past events available (because otherwise they would have to give away free currency and weapons) it makes it impossible to have events with depth and linked to the plot except for a few sentences. The minigames are sometimes fun other times they are just a waste of players time and a waste of developers resources. Exploration depends on the region, in some cases it is boring while in other cases it is satisfying and the difficulty has decreased over time because hoyo is afraid of losing players.Gameplay: it's always the same stuff both in exploration and in combat.I can understand wanting to defend something you like but hoyo's management, regardless of how much they earn, is mediocre. I don't feel like recommending games like GI and HSR to anyone anymore.>>1539589Leaving aside the story (boring and terrible), I felt like an idiot during the exploration of Simulanka, so much so that I haven't completed it yet.
You all like them gacha game?
>>1539607Looks like a fun clusterfuck
>>1539589KWAB game made for SEA players.
So, Mihoyo has well chosen to include a generous amount of spite in their business model and is not shy from showing it ? Felt that a while ago during the Inazuma updates where there are countless things that can be made better. Switching to a broader view, the chinese side on gacha just feels so rather peculiar. Chinks are temperamental and even belligerent when it comes to even games. From devs to the players, there is no true attempt to induce harmony that befits everyone. At this rate, Seasun might probably wrest the vaunted top gacha position from oyohim and run with it.
Things i do to contribute to mihoyo's downfall:>sperg on 4chin>>I did my part guys!
>>1539634I have deterred several people from playing Hoyoslop. Feels good.
>>1539612Yeah, it's pretty fun.
>>1538744Newsflash, Doujins aren't R18 only..
So according to this thread, gacha is only good if it's waifus who are there for (You), and anything else must be eradicated and you should be a schizo about it.
>>1539665>thread about shilling various mixed toilet games, wuwa, genshin, hsr, zzz>whaaaw how dare people criticize my favorite mixed toiletvictim complex much tranny? i didn't see any waifu games get much praise here
>>1539665Cry about it tranny, i will not dump my time and money in mix toilet crap, fujo/yuritranny shit or furry shit
>>1539665I get the feeling of wanting the best from what you've paid for, but as you can see these chinktards are taking this to the extremes.
>>1539583And yet noone gives a shit about it because its yurishit
>>1539665I swear, they're just like Hololive fans, demanding even indies to not collab with men because it's "un-idol-like" and threatening to turn against them if they do.
>>1539545>However, as seen with the relpic controversy, if you're copypasting and editing other people's pictures or tracing lines from photographers without their consent, what’s the difference between that and AI art?You are retarded. AI is shit because you are looking at an automatically generated mess of pixels with disfigured forms and no personality. It literally doesnt feel alive as you would on a real drawing.
You do know the world is a more balanced place with both female and male representation right? You need both feminine and masculine. To deny one is to deny half of existence, and why would you do that to yourself? Constant femininity would be boring. I don’t know if it’s the internet or just video game culture, but people have become obsessive over female representation. It’s gone too far
>>1539385>they lost to Snowbreak, a random GFL clone that didn't even have ties to some big chink companyThat's just disingenuous. The Snowbreak dev team might be small but Seasun isn't some indie studio, they’re behind one of the biggest CN games. And Kingsoft, which is a also huge tech giant with the Xiaomi CEO as their chairman, is backing them.>>1539430>it makes more than genshinSaying DNF makes more than Genshin is a huge understatement, it actually makes at least 30 times more. No surprise Tencent is ditching the gacha market,it's still pretty tiny.
>>1539716>the world>video gameskys tranny, stop conflating games with real life, you are the cancer that are getting characters like this made
>toilets should be unisex everywhere>I don't see I should kept out even when the sign told me what to expect inside
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>>1539677Gacha is only good when it has a target audience and focuses its attention on that target audience, not generic omnipandering slop. The whole gaming industry originally started by straight males and for straight males, many current giants (mihomo) are built upon the money they syphoned from straight males, so yeah, it hurts when they turn their backs on them. Nobody is complaining about LnD, despite being the antithesis of what straight males want, because it knows its target audience and isn't trying to bait straight males into playing only to cuck them later. >>1539665This isn't 2014 anymore, retard. This "we shouldn't be extreme" mindset is what led the Western gaming industry to this stage. How the fuck can anyone has this mindset anymore?! Do you not see with your fucking eyes the current state of your entertainment industry?! You let this happen. You let them destroy the things you and guys like you created and nurtured, and now you're still trying to be virtuous and look down on the "chinktards"?! Excuse me but I would rather listen to some Indog shilling for ZZZ than some cucked Westerners thinking they're the beacon of morality. Fucking hell.
>>1539729> chinese gacha companies turning their backs on those who supported and brought them up>western gaymeen trying to force a useless message that will be complete nonsense in less than a decadeThey are both bad.Gaming should be just > straight males and for straight males is correct, but thanks to fucking chinks I have to be aware their stances too.
>>1539736>but thanks to fucking chinks I have to be aware their stances toobut>straight males and for straight males is correctis their stanceyou just have a complex about chinks being the only ones still making a few games worth a damn in the industryor maybe you're pissed they of all people are willing to stand up and tell you homos to go fuck yourselves with not just words but moneynot your team thoughyour team is acting like a bunch of faggotseither way its not their fault the west decided they want to fellate faggots until they diethats on the western industriesfaggots and their enablers who support itwhich one are you?
>>1539729low-effort troll.
>>1537238Pretty much every gacha game worth a shit has an option for Japanese voices, even if it isn't a Japanese game.
>>1539665Yes.
>>1539729>Gacha is only good when it has a target audience and focuses its attention on that target audience, not generic omnipandering slop.Tell that to Project Sekai
>NTE hid their males so hard in their trailer, people thought it was females only>They'll probably launch with 2-3 males then never add another>TOF completely abandoned adding males>ZZZ has 6 consecutive female banners upcoming, with no males in sight>ZZZ current female to male ratio is 13 to 4>ZZZ females egregiously cater to male gaze>Genshin is launching Natlan with 7 to 3 female to male ratio>If insider info is true, they plan to put males on the backburner and focus on females>females also cater to male gaze while the males just look generic low effort design.>Wuwa has to give you a free male because they can't sell them>Snowbreak went full coomer pandering>Followed by GFL2, TOF, Aether Gazer>Aether Gazer doesn't seem to add males anymore>Brown Dust 2 stopped adding males>Path to Nowhere rarely adds males, pretty much done adding themProject Neural Cloud stopped adding males, increased coomer pandering>Reverse 1999 slowed down males and creature banners>Outerplane stopped adding males>Tencent no longer interested in investing in mixed toilet games>mfw: gUyS wE nEeD to cOme ToGetHeR aNd eNjOy MiXed tOiLeT gAmEsnot even the corpos want to engage with them anymore, if you want males, go play love and deepspace or tears of themis
whiny bitch moid can't even give seasun 30m a month in revenue yet still think they're relevant lmao
>>1539739Read again retard. He's specifically complaining about the chink companies that actually did turn their back on gamers, like mihoyo.
New teaser trailer from Snowbreak. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MzW8sopSP4
>>1539770Isn't seasun already raking in 30 million a month from snowbreak?
>>1539763I blame femcels actually not spending a damn on them.It's obvious. Male characters are launched so far apart between banners that women get to save so much pull currency, so when the male gets released, they just use those savings instead of spending realy money.
>>1539786Fujos buy merch, they don't actually spend on gacha very much. Apparently yumes do spend on gacha though, just going by Love and Deepspace constantly doing really well.
>>1539763At this point I am just going to wait for the next generation of gacha>>1539791I wish cygames got the memo with gbf.
>>1539763>Outerplane stopped adding malesThere hasn't been a new male since launch
>>1539791If anons are scratching their heads about why Love Deepspace is making so much money, just play it for a few hours even if you're a straight male.Kick out the BL fujo audience + Double down on yumejo fanservice + Triple down on (You) pandering + Genshin-level polish = a recipe for big profits.
>>1539796>There hasn't been a new male since launchThen why did they add males?
>>1539763>Wuwa has to give you a free male because they can't sell themits just kuro magic giving free shit, i doubt it has anything to do with gender shit, jiyan still make some money despite the botched start
>>1539804Isn't that how they handled PGR? Most males ended up freebies.
>>1539804>jiyan still make some money despite the botched startDidn't they rush through his banner?
>>1539805not really, so far its been like 2 free female S rank and 1 free male S rank.
>>1539804And Scar and Geshu Lin will definitely make money too, specially the latter
>>1539807Yes, idk why they do that, prolly trying to push 1.1 as fast as possible because its miles better than that shitfest 1.0
>>1539763About Perfect Game:>NTE hid their males so hard in their trailer, people thought it was females onlyActually, they didn't hid but outright showing it in the first PV. According the "shareholder brother" at NGA, Perfect did so to spite on Malafags, aka. here are male characters, if you abide to "have men no play", please go out. Btw, in ToF, they also confirmed that they will continue to release 1 male per year.So Perfect World still holds high the banner of mixed toilet and outright declared war on Mala, please take that in mind.
>>1539887>Antagonizing your main playerbase>Hotta unironically think women will play GTAAnd this is why the gacha industry is collapsing.
>>1539763all this and tiny dicked chinks-pags-jeets will still bitch about the male characters instead of thirsting after the female characters given to them
>>1539891Yes, let see how the situation unfolded. Although I also hated Malafags, but outright officially expelling them is not a good idea.>your picBtw, all of the cutdown were from other branches (there was also a public declaration of Perfect about some corruption cases of project managers), not the Hotta Studio. In fact, Hotta Studio even got more investment from Perfect, it seems Perfect is really betting on Hotta to make their comeback on gaming industry (Perfect had a period during 2010s of branching into TV/entertainment industry that caused them losing a lot of money).
>>1539896That's because it is only done in a half assed way just look at the recent event in Genshin.
>>1539891>Hotta unironically think women will play GTAGirls do play GTA tho.
>>1539920>M80 F20K
>>1539920No they don't, GTA is 10% female at best but hey, if Hotta wants to pander to 10% of their player base at the expense of 90% good luck to them.
>>1539896>be me>enlightened Western man>so confident my masculinity I don't care what my wife is doing>tonight, my wife is "just gonna hang out with her girlfriends" at the bar.>nothing to do, decide to kill time on 4chan>she is just hanging out with her girlfriends, no big deal.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20xMJZNsgzc
>>1539665That's just legitimate incel talk. Normal people that like sexy girls can just appreciate them regardless. Incels who will never have a relationship need to feel loved and some schizos strike out in anger if there's a gacha that's a game that has sexy girls but no self insert MC. See in this very thread when brown dust was mentioned. I feel sorry for those sad people.
>>1539975>t. Cuck Dust player
>>1539960>she is just hanging out with her girlfriendsAnon, I...
>>1539763Holy based.Any homos and trannies that still support mixed toilet games needs to read and understand that their time is over.
>>1539717wtf is dnf, the only one i know is dungeon and fighter and i doubt its that game
>>1539763Cool.Still not playing any of these.
>>1540000You're not playing?Mixed toilet gachas are finally catering to males, and you're not playing?
>>1540012GBFag here it doesn't matter what song they sing now it will always come with a knife in the back in the end.
>>1540012all gachashit games have dogshit gameplayit doesnt matter if they put a nude bitch in there for the tinydickcels to jack off, the games will be shit anyway
>>1539960ooh triggered turdskin
>1540018You sound like a mad femcel.
>>1540015This. One moment you are marrying a cow, the next it's naked man ass. It's just not worth it.
>>1540018>all gachashit games have dogshit gameplay*looks at board name* uh sir why are you here then? >>/v/
>>1540056It's just a femcel shitposter notice how now that he posting here he isn't spamming "sex with blumine" in the AP thread anymore.
>>1539800Love and deepspace unironically mogs all of the male orientated coomer games and I am jealous that we don't have a game like that. Makes sense why the women don't spend on the mixed games when they could just go play that instead.
>>1540012Can't wait to give my money to mixed toilets so that the developers can then reward themselves with a new male character!
>>1540056The board says mobile games, not gachashit
>>1540060it's because male gachaniggers are mostly unironic incels from third world shithole countries like se asia and south asia, and from china/japan/korea where the male-female gender dynamic scene is pretty fucked upthey are desperate for the crumbs thrown at their feet, no dignity, no self-respectmale incels often sell their honor just to be noticed by a foidthat's just the uncomfortable but brutal reality of lifesame reason maleniggers throw their hard-earned money at onlyfans whoreslack of pussy literally mindrapes the maleniggersfemales on the other hand genuinely do not care for sex, and their low sex drive helps them immensely
>>1539803Nta but they probably realized that males don't sell too late and didn't want to delay the game to rewrite the launch chapters. Snowbreak actually did just that and their early chapters are horrible but they recovered.
>>1540077>females on the other hand genuinely do not care for sex, and their low sex drive helps them immenselyHahahahahahhahahahahaha
>>1540077>females on the other hand genuinely do not care for sex, and their low sex drive helps them immenselyTheres sex in Love and Deepspace............
>>1540077>females on the other hand genuinely do not care for sex, and their low sex drive helps them immensely
>>1540077>females on the other hand genuinely do not care for sex, and their low sex drive helps them immenselyousted yourself as being a kissless virgin, kek
Genshinplayer here that just woke up, did we win?
>>1540100No bro this time you loss the cuck competition to ZZZ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIEjSsN_ePY
>>1540106holy shit, english dub is awful, feels like a saturday morning cartoon
Ok anons i need your help, i started to see a lot artist/art directors/writers jump the ship for a company called "DynamisOne" for example i am BA player and this guys dropped from Nexon:>IsakusanWriter for the most kino parts of the history on BA>HwansangWas the game's overall art/creative director>DoremiWell know for UOHHHH meme and the most liked characters in BA>alsoIsakusan was shitting on Nexon because the pay wasn't good enough and because BA was heading in a direction he didn't like (maybe the mahjong souls collab,the faggy sensei design in the anime or playable male characters in the future?), and other 2 guys retweet the response.So the question is you know other artist that are joining to this company? because is kinda strange they are leaving their jobs so easily for unknown company, if i am remembering correctly some GFL artist are joining too
>>1540118looking at the site it just looks like they are becoming their own company like how lowlight left gfl with some of their artists to make arknights
>>1540118>Isakusan was shitting on Nexon because the pay wasn't good enough and because BA was heading in a direction he didn't like (maybe the mahjong souls collab,the faggy sensei design in the anime or playable male characters in the future?), and other 2 guys retweet the response.Link to this tweet?I can't find this on his twitter acc unless you just talked out of your ass.>>1540118>Well know for UOHHHH meme and the most liked characters in BAThat was dorontabi.
>>1540106Bro this shit is so sad. Imagine making a game with a mini dating mechanic, baiting players with characters that are (slightly) for (you), 6 consecutive female banners in a row to solidify your commitment toward the straight male audience, a rat girl with ass physics thats undoubtedly made for the eyes of horny men. Then you ship her with a furry to appease your female audience that's pretty much pissed at you for not releasing any male banners. ???Is this some kind of cuck ritual hoyo likes to do?
>>1540106>>1540190Will this tank her banner in CN?
>>1540190Post genshit mihoyo is 60%+ female staff. Humiliation rituals are what you should expect from them.
>>1540190Mihoyo won't recover unless they purge women from writing positions.
>>1540190>Is this some kind of cuck ritual hoyo likes to do?nah, it's oyohim "artistic freedom", releasing 6 female banners is for money, but contents are for the artists to climax.I kid you not, read what Fat Xiao claimed about Scara story and also the recent info nga digged about Shaoji (Roast Chicken) and Lao Yao during their days in anime club.
Why do we call new male or female characters “banners,” and what do we mean by that word? If they are playable characters with in-game models, how are they banners? Is this some terminology that originated with older gacha and never disappeared?
>>1540194I can argue that women know female bodies better than men. So your coomer horny ape brain can potentially benefit from that.
>>1540214I thought it was dubbed "banner" since it involved multiple characters and a theme that involved a mini story generally. Like in FGO or Azur lane. Been a while since I played either, but Azur lane generally had 3-5 new shipfu's, skins, and more on a "banner".IDK about modern gacha I just play them and don't worry about that shit. I roll for who I like or need.
>>1540190This is quite literally the same thing they have done in ALL of their games. Anyone who seriously thinks "it will be different this time" when they toss out maybe a crumb of (you)bait seriously needs to get some sense slapped into them.
>>1540214Because when a new character releases in any gacha game it is almost always highlighted by a rectangular shaped "banner" on the main screen.You click on that and it takes you to roll for them.
>>1540106I'm glad hoyoverse constantly reminds me why I dropped all their games so I never get any ideas of coming back.
>people thought hoyo was going back to appealing to straight men>all 3 of their main games most recent content has varying degrees of anti-(you) pandering>no sign of hoyo purging feminist employees, in fact they're likely hiring morekek, zzz may as well be the equivalent of a venus flytrap by hoyo. luring coomers in with their female designs before hitting them with >>1540106
>>1540193Nahhh most people are not mentally ill incel
>>1540225I get it now
>>1540106KEK
Keep crying more all of you who want lewd female designs and NOTHING else in your gacha. I LOVE reading your posts and tasting your salty tears ;P
>>1540106God ENdub is unbearable
>>1540190The content of said female is still up to the lead writer to decided and they sure af hate waifufags. It's pretty much without doubt that Mihomo is run by feminist at this point, especially the lead writer position and they are more than happy to shill the latest banner character while comfortably finding new ways to shit on the self-insert, the games still make 8 digits per patch despite everything so they have no worry about getting canned. It's the biggest win-win-win for them.
>>1540231>Lure (you) in with pretty females with vaguely (you) baiting>Reveal her to be a dyke/ship shit material later>Nothing you can do about it since they already have your money>When you complain, all you will get is "have s-sex, chinkcel"Works everytime
>>1539994>wtf is dnf, the only one i know is dungeon and fighter and i doubt its that gameIts that game. >>1535773 These are the numbers after Tencent's taxes, so the real figures should be way higher.
>>1540207>I kid you not, read what Fat Xiao claimed about Scara story and also the recent info nga digged about Shaoji (Roast Chicken) and Lao Yao during their days in anime club.QRD?
Do the ESL chinkcels in these threads not realize it's called a mixed bathroom? What the fuck is a mixed toilet?
>>1540215That doesn't matter. The majority of them hate (you). Frankly it's a miracle even a few decent looking characters make their way out of that company these days.
>>1540416mixed toilet sounds better
>>1540106Cut my dick and call it character development.
>>1540416Toilet is synonymous with bathroom in most english speaking countries. The two being separate rooms is more an asian thing.
I have a hypothesis that the most damaging competitor to Genshin, and hoyo overall is actually Love and Deepspace. Think about it, before LnD, hoyo games were considered to be the most "female friendly" gacha in the market. And when LnD came out, it's very likely those female players turned to support LnD instead. There is a reason why even hoyo these days are starting to push for more female characters, because their female fanbase is gone, so they have to double down on extracting their remaining male players. What I'm thinking is that hoyo's finance and market research said male characters are not doing good anymore, so the higher ups mandated that there should be more female characters. However, since hoyo is already infested with feminists, and in a gaming company, women generally occupy writing, HR, and some artist positions. You can see it in ZZZ with censored designs (female artists) with jiggly bits and animations (male programmers and animators), and spite-driven writing (female writers) like >>1540106. In the end, sexy females is only a third of the equation, the other third is actually the (You) pandering, and the last third is being a good game, otherwise Brown Dust or recently Tof would be making more money.
>>1540444>before LnD, hoyo games were considered to be the most "female friendly" gacha in the market. And when LnD came out, it's very likely those female players turned to support LnD insteadYep, they're fucking screwed now.There's absolutely nothing they can do to regain that female fanbase that went to LnD.And with Natlan as the next region they're out of ammo now. Females aren't hyped for fucking Capitano or Xbalanque, and that new twink looks retarded and like an OC made by an underage. Women want fags that look like Ayato, Alhaitham and Kaveh.
>>1540444>>1540464While yumes are also female you have to remember that yumes and fujos are two diametrically opposed factions of female players. LnD outright forbids fujo content of their characters. Hoyo games were more on the fujo side of things so while I don't doubt that some female players jumped ship they weren't the core target to begin with. It's just that fujos don't spend. They never have and never do in any gacha.
>>1540416i used to watch a german streamer, who streamed in english, he would always say, i need to use the toilet, i would always laugh, because toilet is synonymous with needing to take a shit, but he only needed to pee. Toilet outside US just means bathroom.
there's no way people actually get hyped for these really fucking ugly, overdesigned character designseither that or gachaniggers have such abysmal shit taste>be turd colored subhuman>the only purpose in your life is wasting it away grinding 24/7 so you could have a chance at rolling some cartoonish, clownish looking bitch who doesnt even fucking wear actual sexy clothing like bikini>do this every day until eos and you find some other equally horrendous slave simulator to latch onto
>>1540484Do you not piss in toilets too? At least in my part of burgerland toilet doesn't suggest one or the other.
>>1540444Not gonna lie, this video demoralized me bro, >>1540106 So tired of Hoyo's baiting, I really liked that rat girl, now they shipped her with some twink. I hope they fire their feminist writers, because the shipping shit is getting tiresome.
>>1540487yeah, but people just say, gotta pee, if you say toilet, it implies shitting.
>>1540106When will they get tired of this ? Oyohim might as well just say, Yea you don't own the characters. It is just like Genshin, they are tulpas the MC made up to fight monsters with.
>playing hoyoslop>just because muh flashy visuals and muh HiGh QuALiTylollmao evenat least play something that gives you a sense of satisfaction instead of spending every day grinding in a slave mine, just to get "cucked"
but my small circles only play goyogames :'(
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>>1540106>>1540107 >>1540190 >>1540193>>1540226 >>1540231 >>1540251 >>1540254 >>1540434 >>1540444 >>1540491 >>1540498 https://x.com/ZZZ_EN/status/1823555571901194411/photo/1She is a fucking porn actress too holy shit >>1540543
>>1540543>>1540547Wtf, Hoyo is fucking based again?We lost, (You)bros...
>>1540543>>1540547some kind of humiliation ritual? this shit is getting weird
>>1540543>>1540547>roll this whore>fuck everyone except youNo thanks, the design really SEX but the GAMEPLAY is shit.
>>1540543>>1540547If i can't buy her for (me) and (me) only, oyohim is shit.
>>1540547I hate how they can get away with releasing a literal pornstar now but Mona's outfit was too much for its timeFuck this shit
>>1540543>even a literal porn actress isn't for (you) and is used for shipbait insteadholy shit this is low even for hoyo LMAO
MADE FOR (D)ENNIES
>>1540464Female players only support mixed toilet when they can come in and conquer the men's space.While they'd prefer they own space when available.It's written in their genes.
some of you really underestimate how much of cultists hoyo slop eaters arethey have put up with all the bullshit in hi3, genshin, and star railthey aren't gonna stop now just because there are furries in the game and the lead artist draws blacked pedo cuck pornslop eaters will conzoom even if the company treats them like shit while making bank off itthey are the tendies of gacha market
r/gachagaming is 70% or more bots and almost all the threads are paid shill campaigns > runs shill campaigns
>>1540583i'm not refuting any of your claims, but you can only push so far, pornshit is too much
>>1540588Campaigns over the last year or two> Azur Promilia good> All Hoyo good> Tower of Fantasy - Genshin Killer - bad> Wuthering Waves - bad > Snowbreak - Snowpeak - good > GFL2 - NTR - financial failure - bad > Solo Leveling Arise - Solo Loading - badBiggest paid astroturfing/shill companies:> Hoyo > Manjuu / Yostar> Amazing Seasun / Snowbreak
>>1540562It's a win for their feminist writers. Only losers are waifufags still playing hoyogames.
Speaking of feminist, does feminist is big in china right now? I thought such that thing would be ilegal by cpc due to western influences on feminist group
>>1540598If they want to be the new west then why ban something that make west...west?
>>1539975>cuck dustEnjoying your assigned five seconds of softcore l2d ecchi?Careful not to coom your pants, I know porn is banned is shitskinstan, must be a culture shock to you.
>>1540591i agree with hoyo and manjuu, literally paid to attack snowbreak and gfl, but snowbreak's rise was organic, if you went to any generals around cherno's patch, you would see the insane amont of shills attacking the game, obvious paid manjuu shills. same goes for gfl, it's pretty evident they attacked them too. You can still see the hoyo shills attacking wuwa, they are bombarded constantly by gentrannies
>>1540077A lot of words just to end up saying>I've never talked with a womanWhat's the matter Rajeesh? Your grandpa didn't buy you a cousin to marry?
>CN Zhongli VA attacks Snowbreak for being degen>ZZZ is full of fur fetish related things>release a literal porn starlmao
>>1540613>global conflict nowaday>current west vs new westWhat a grim timeline we have right now, i wish kaiser heed bismarck advice to not fucking the world for his stupid ambition
>>1540598Many of them are daughters of big wigs so they are untouchable.
>>1540598part of it is due to the chink one child policy genociding foid fetusesthat alone has fueled a full scale gender war in china
>>1540168everything so far seems to be baseless rumors and speculation until someone else on the team leaves otherwise. isakusan for all we know has worked on the game for a long time and its only natural that he would move on to something else by the time he finished the story arc thats been built up since the first one.
Some market dataDataEye is basically a site that counts the number of ads and sponsored content for each game.w = 10000According to them, the 3rd game on the ranking below spent at least 60M yuan ($8.38M) on 99000 ads daily.If we assume that the ads price are the same between games then we can calculate how much other games cost daily.Genshin: $9.14MHSR: $5.93MZZZ: $3.22MWW: $3.05MThis is only on Chinese platforms. Of course, these can change daily. ZZZ at its launch had 12w ads daily, Genshin at its lowest had 3w.
>>1540729I doubt genshin is spending 250M+ just on China.They'd be losing money hand over fist
Tribe Nine is a mixed game that will sell. Japan is doing mixed games and they're succeeding because they don't have an incel problem.
>>1540561Blame women for that one, at least I remember the cause was Chinese feminists not liking the fact that 2D women were hotter than them
>>1540729Marketing costs are just out of control. With Tencent withdrawing and gacha companies failing to attract investment, I feel like 2025 is when we'll see all these gacha games close down due to lack of revenue.
>>1540817god i hope somost of these games are shit anywaysthey should start making actual games like wukong now
>>1540817>I feel like 2025 is when we'll see all these gacha games close down due to lack of revenue.Actually it's the opposite. Upcoming bid budget gacha are releasing around 2025 so there’s more money going into the gacha industry than ever. Whether there’s enough market cap to keep these games going is a different story tho.>AP>Mugen>Unending Dawn>Codename Jie>Roco Kingdom>Nemonic>Wang Yue>Endfield>Duet Night Abyss>Axis of eternity>NTE>Project Xunjing
>>1540760NTA but it's not like Genshin spends $9M a day on marketing every day. some days it’s only a fifth of that.>>1540729What I dont get is that they aren't putting more money into advertising ZZZ, it's their new game so they should be spending more on it but they're doing the reverse.
>>1540832Those games might release but looking at how Wuthering Waves can barely survive, I only see a quick death coming. On that list I think Roco Kingdom can do well but that's not a gacha, and if Azur Promilia is an open world harem it might do as well as Snowbreak, everything else looks dead on arrival.
>>1540842>if Azur Promilia is an open world harem it might do as well as Snowbreak,>but looking at how Wuthering Waves can barely surviveAP Would die then since Snowbreak probably makes significantly less than Wuthering Waves
>>1540293Wait a few days, I needed to search NGA again.
>>1540848Revenue wise sure but if you consider profits Snowbreak is just far ahead. Wuthering Waves marketing costs are massive, apparently if you open Douyin (chinese Tiktok) all you see are Wuwa ads. I've even read that they spent so much money on marketing that the revenue from 1.1 isn't enough to pay back its advertising costs.
>>1540848Snowbreak doesn't spend anything on marketing
>>1540841>aren't putting more money into advertising ZZZBecause it's advertising for free with how many fanarts the cockslurpers japs are makingThat shit is flooding my X account even when I haven't given a like to a single one ZZZ fanart and when I don't even folllow the artist
>>1540842>everything else looks dead on arrivalElden Ring sold millions of copies, GTA Online is still raking in billions each year, Warframe's got even more players now than it did when it first launched and SpiderMan is the best selling title on PS, so why do you think their mobile clones wouldn't do well?>>1540848Snowbreak is making $20mil a month, yeah that's 3-4 times less than Wuwa's but it costs 10 times less to develop than Wuwa and also doesnt need to spend on ads since they're not aiming for the casual audience.
Hoyodrones do half the marketing for them.You don't remember all the ads that are just CCs hyping up some basic ass shit about the games?
>>1540858Because the chinese gacha market is shrinking. Gacha games are relatively niche compared to your standard videogame and they're way more expensive. I doubt there's many people willing to play a shitty mobile Elden Ring, or a crappy female oriented GTA.
>>1540613They want to REPLACE the west, not REPLICATE the west. And more importantly, they want to outlive the west as it shoots itself in the foot
>>1540859Content Creators are also getting paid via sponsorships.
There is a reason gacha devs loved png autobattlers>cheap as fuck to develop for and maintain>huge profit margins
>>1540832>open world slops>open world slops>open world slopsChinks can't think of anything new. They are afraid to take risks with design and gameplay choices. All they rely on is putting a lot of money into sfx and cutscenes and advertisements. That's why the JP releases will be a lot more fun and soul.
>>1540904i unironically agree with youthe more i play chinkgachaslop, i cant help but notice how they all stick to the grindslave structure instead of delivering something elsewhy not a f2p friendly game with monetization of cosmetics instead of characters, weapons, character dupes, weapon dupes (and the atrocious rng slop farming, fuck you mihomo for introducing that shit to mainstream gacha industry)fortnite does it, and makes bank out of it
>>1540909>why not a f2p friendly game with monetization of cosmeticsBecause that market is monopolized by Tencent's Honor of Kings, PUBG and now DNF
>>1540627I wasn’t sharing an opinion, those are the companies who paid the most to astroturf r/gachagaming and other places. >current exampleThis post and most of the comments/votes within are paid for and easily handled with bots. Narrative easy to drive, and Youtubers will make content off the post as well. Very much worth the investment. Most of you would be shocked if you knew how few of the people you interact with on Reddit are real
Latest newss herrreeehttps://tieba.baidu.com/p/9132336532Fu Hua from Honkai Impact actually was based on real Fu Hua, a high level manager of Mihoyo.The notable thing is that: "She is a lesbian, extremely misogynistic, and has been supporting LGBT for 15 years"and "Her original god account uses a scattered soldier as the avatar"It means that Scara is really beloved characters of Mihoyo, no wonder they cannot stand players attacking Scara, sigh
>>1540925wow you mean these gacha companies hate their own playerbase and Mihomo has that name for a reason? I'm utterly shocked!
>>1540925>>1540928man it feels good to be part of a fandom that doesnt hate its players from the top
>>1540925lol
>>1540925Why are they so coward...https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9132339010
>>1540925>>1540955Are these chinese posts just like us?Angry people yelling at the clouds, or do they actually make a difference?
>>1540958>Angry people yelling at the clouds, or do they actually make a difference?They do, information spreads quickly and it caused a change in customers' behaviourFor example, without the negativity of Gayshin dramas, Wuwa and ZZZ wouldn't be attacked so much.mihoyo had caused PTSD to the whole CN gachaspace
I play hoyoverse games for the guys
>>1540925>lesbian>misogynisticI'm somewhat confused and I have to guess that google translate shat the bed.
>>1540977ah ah yes yes,I have also checked the original text, it's misandristic, not misogynistic. Google Translate is really unreliable, maybe it really has some agenda
>>1540930which one? seems like devs everywhere hate their customers
>>1540992Surely not Gungho. They don't make as much but they put way more PAD anime out there than the other gacha even though they don't have to. Not to mention they get a large amount of collabs. That's definitely passion.
I lied I don’t actually know the exact details of the astroturfing campaigns but I know they happen since a shilled thread I created and paid for had to battle another company trying to hit-piece the game.
>>1540598Because of the "genius" one child policy that favored males in the past, chinkna now has a massive gender imbalance which leads to feminist movements as a revenge for treating them like dirt. Same reason why the likes of mihomo's feminist lead writers are finding new ways to spit in the face of self-insert every patch.
>>1540859This. Mihomo can do censorship all they want because they know artfags will undo all of that for them and give them free PR.
It seems characters in Mihoyo games are staffs self-insert (now with soft evidence)https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9132349948
>>1540992>seems like devs everywhere hate their customersYes, because honest devs are either dead or super niche.
>>1541069>NOOOOO YOU CANNOT LUST AFTER MY SELF INSERT GACHA CHARACTER HENTAI AAAAI despise this company yet I wished they are kidding about this. No company should be allowed to be this retarded.>chinese is also the most illegible after MTL out of the 3 slant languages>chinks are also the most active trying to market their gamescaptcha WWAT
>>1540904>new shironeko sloppass, can't forgive them for what they did to the golf one
New thread>>1541139>>1541139>>1541139
>op is a fucking retardnot surprising i guess
>>1539763I am not pro-mixed toilet, I think the developments you list are fantastic. All I am saying is IF and that is a capital letters IF your game tries to evoke he feeling of literally playing a shonen/battler seinen anime like WuWa does, it’s fucking retarded only using females. Summoning a giant thunder dragon from your katana like Jiyan for example will only look epic to the same effect on a male character.If you have aspirations for such a playable shonen anime, unisex restrooms make sense
>>1541144you retard, just wait until page 10, this thread will still last for 2 more weeks
>>1541876The incels can't handle not having attention on the front page.
>>1540904Japan is simply top low energy and is too le tired to develop new game franchises with good concepts and fappable characters. Their companies are too crusted up being led by boomers. Don’t count on them.
>>1542537Whether a company is run by Boomer or Zoomer doesn't change much, a company has to make money to survive and to make money they have to satisfy the demands of the current market. The Japanese are interested in money but they are aware that going up against Mihoyo and other top gacha companies is too big a risk and requires massive investments. Even just considering the most classic manga, anime and JRPG or even some R18 works, the Japanese have settings that if developed in the right way would outclass those of Mihoyo and co.
>>1540252brown sharters btfo
>>1540547is this reportable? how subtle was it?>>1541109it's not, the slang is what's fucking you over. have you tried MTLing a 2ch thread?
