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Previous thread: >>1535619
Every gacha related. Post everything to your heart's content, your sentiment about the gacha industry, your most schizo takes, your most conspiratorial theories, your MTL screenshots from obscure Chinese forums, or just random gacha related topics that don't fit in a specific general.
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>>1541139
A thing or two about Sensor Tower data:
1. It's only iOS sales
2. It's only estimation based on their 'algorithm', whatever the fuck that means.
3. Some game have disproportionate PC sales (Snowbreak) while others have 0 PC client.
4. Sometimes there's errors on their end (picrel)
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I've never seen such a narcissistic person.
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>>1541159
Fuhuafag meltdown
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most gacha sloppa with waifus is shit
cant wait for fall guys to release today
then i will only wait for heartopia, where i can actually handhold other players instead of being cucked by spiteful and bitter fujos
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>>1541150
What do you mean, bro?
You don't like their arbitrary and totally made up calc of (IOS revenue * 1.75 = Total monthly revenue)?
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>>1541168
holy fuck
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Makes a lot of sense why hoyo is so anti-(you) pandering if they self insert thing is true. And on the other hand it’s really weird to think about when they start ship baiting characters.
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Gacha drama needs to be an ever-recurring thread here
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>>1541168
link, I need to laugh from the comments
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Kek now we know why the touch system was removed
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>>1541235
NOOOO WE CAN’T LET THE YUCKY INCELS TAP MY SELF-INSERTS PUSSY
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>>1541159
>>1541168
Who's the self-insert of Fat Xiao?
What about Da Wei self- insert?
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>>1541243
Da Wei: Welt
Shaoji: Elysia
Limengan: Yae
Fat Xiao: Neuvillette
Fu Hua: Fu Hua
Vivi: Emilie
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developers who do self inserts are always super cringe narcissists with a god complex
seeing a lot of it in western gaming industry, really isnt surprising why all hoyo games are filled with shit character designs and that terrible writing
i think it all started after that rabid sexless chink went to stab the ceo himself
it all went downhill after that
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>>1541213
it's a giant FUCK YOU to all their players
you are rolling for our self inserts, you pathetic slave! and we will also pair our self inserts with the waifus/husbandos we designed based on our fetishes, so you get neither our self insert or the character we ship them with!
suddenly everything about hoyo character designs makes a lot of fucking sense
it's just a handful of higher ups wanking off to their own virtual persona and fetish waifus/husbandos, leaving little room for originality and creativity
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>>1541168
I always feel bad for people who can't separate a character from the people behind them. My waifu's seiyuu is a piece of shit who was part of the whole kokoro connect bullying incident years ago but my waifu is still separate from her.
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>>1541295
I had the same inkling back then with the 3 headed dragons event. Everyone else handled their roles with precision while the MC is the only one who fucked up and had to be assisted by shen he. It seems the moments the MC gets to shine are so preciously few.
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>>1541306
What are you talking about? The MC gets to shine in every Archon quest. It's totally normal for other characters to take the spotlight in side quests since they're trying to sell them.
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>>1541309
You can tell I gave up after Inazuma. Sell, huh? Renting after lengthy cutscene more like.
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>>1541309
That's not really true at all. The MC only gets to shine in world quests with generic model NPCs(that somehow have more personality than the majority of actual PCs). All Archon quests have someone else do most of the work, be it supersoaker man, canadian samurai, CEO of GEO, some fatui, edgy mystery man, etc.
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>>1541309
>The MC gets to shine in every Archon quest
lol? your Neuv? Fontaine will be the same even MC is there or not.
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>>1541309
i played until 1.1 and pretty sure you only do something in the first region but everything you do in the glorious china region is a worthless waste of time since the chinawank npcs and characters steal the spotlight from you anyway
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>>1541309
>The MC gets to shin-ACK
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>>1541330
And don't forget the MC role these days in genshin is to be a camera
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>another schizophrenic general from /vg/
you people really are the worst posters in this entire website. I hope you niggers get paid for this. It'd be embarrassing if you are all doing this for free.
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>Self insert for man is female character
lgbt+ company
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>>1541345
>men want to be cute girls
Based
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>>1541345
>devs are faggots who wants to be a women
can't make this up, fucking trannies
>>1541347
t. tranny
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>>1541305
It's extension of the Mihoyo VA drama earlier.
In Japan seiyuus are discouraged to heavily connect themselves to a character.
This time people found out the some of the characters are designed base on the staffs. (Same name and birthday etc.)
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>>1541139
Why are you already making a new thread on a slow board, you stupid /v/ermin tourist?
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>>1541330
It's part of the hero's journey to get knocked down and rise back up stronger.
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>>1541345
Isn't it funny how the company with self-insert developers has shills shaming the self-insert players and ridiculing them for getting "cucked" by the virtual personas of the developers?
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>>1541353
>gayshit cuck cope
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>>1541345
>Cai Haoyu, Limengan and Shaoji want to fuck this guy
What's his secret?
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>>1541345
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>>1541345
>so creatively bankrupt that they base the characters off themselves
Wow... so this is Chinese game development
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>>1541352
Not to mention the same replies. These chinkbots can't get any obvious but sadly the janny for this board is dead.
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>>1539763
I am not pro-mixed toilet, I think the developments you list are fantastic. All I am saying is IF and that is a capital letters IF your game tries to evoke he feeling of literally playing a shonen/battler seinen anime like WuWa does, it’s fucking retarded only using females. Summoning a giant thunder dragon from your katana like Jiyan for example will only look epic to the same effect on a male character.

If you have aspirations for such a playable shonen anime, unisex restrooms make sense
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Mihoyo fucking deleted the interview video which has the woman dev appearance lmao (The dev who has same name and same birthday as the Honkai character)
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>>1541408
I agree about WuWa and I understand the anger and frustration of those who only want waifu or husbando and the biggest fault is always the developers, deceptive marketing to attract as many types of players and then betray expectations. Assuming that everything you read in this thread is true or almost true, Mihoyo and those who behave like them should review the way they hire their employees, the customer must be satisfied but not spoiled, and must not be deceived or even mocked (if we take the interpretation of the GI summer event as true).
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>>1541442
>or even mocked
I fail to see how mhy will do this when their whole last event felt like it was mocking self-inserters.
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>>1541442
Impossible, in our system, the relationship between game companies and players are always toxic. So the way to keep the balance is always being vigilant, never believing in empty promises, refusing to be fanboys, slurpers, or as the chinks said, don't be filial sons to the manufacturers.
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>>1541406
Thread maker here, I thought a thread with 500+ replies will no longer be bumped with new post; so a new thread is needed. Am I wrong?
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>>1541482
NTA, just let thread die then make new one.
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>>1541482
Make new threads on page 10
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Listen at this lying pos
https://x.com/tokinohikaru_00/status/1824380307375788347
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>>1541408
Ehh there's a far wider verity of body types for the male characters in Shounen and Seinen action anime/manga than what we get in gacha's. Using bleach as an example gacha's only get Byakuyas and Hitsugayas instead of Kenpachis, Yamamotos or Yhwachs because the unlike shounens which are primarily targeting teen boys, Men in gachas pander and target to women 9/10 times. Which as a result causes the male audience to focus their funds on rolling the female
cast. Hell go ask with WuWa thread if they still care about Jiyan.

And the second problem with dude shounen lmao is >>1541330 due to the Protagonist's status as a free character they are always outshined by the supporting cast because the developers are trying to sell them the only time a protag gets to shine is when the premium character who is on banner is holding their hands >>1541353 and Genshin's cameraman bullshit is the industry standard as many older gacha games do the same shit. The Rover in Wuthering Waves however seems to be an exemption to the rule in comparison
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>>1541510
>even DaWei admit Fontaine is shit
Guess pandering to normies doesn't go well
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>>1541519
He can go fuck himself. "Tech-Otakus" dunking on their playerbase for YEARS and now that total revenue is declining he gets like this.
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>>1541510
>>1541531
lol this
i hate this slimy mfer and the shiteating bootlicker retards who fall for this
genshin isnt some indie literal-who game with a 5-figure budget barely surviving on the market
unbelievable how these fucking hacks make themselves out to be the victims despite spending years doing jackshit besides shitting out lazy reskinned crap in all of their top games and making a mockery of their players
any other gacha company would have been grateful for all the support they have received, getting monthly millions from shitting out low effort content like management menus and minigames
what big, impactful features has genshin added since release? teapot decoration, card game, underwater exploration
that's it
with the profits they get, there's no excuse for not putting more
now their shiteating bootlicker drones will make them out as the poor victims bullied by "ungrateful" and "entitled" players
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>>1541517
>Protagonist's status as a free character
This is the cardinal sin of gacha games.
So the question is, why not make protagonist a separated character and sell power up kits? (for example, for Wuwa, H. Ravoc can be a discounted banner, or buy with gems)
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>>1541536
>now their shiteating bootlicker drones will make them out as the poor victims bullied by "ungrateful" and "entitled" players
They've done this since the shitshow 1st anni. I still firmly believe they planned to give the players fuck all until they realized the colossal fuck up and caved. Maybe they should just spam more dead qiqis.
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>>1541536
>with the profits they get, there's no excuse for not putting more
That's why top up over 100$ per month should be banned. Considering a full price AAA only costs 60$ 70$, profits such as Genshin only corrupted the market (draining all money from other devs) and allowed abusive relationship between corps and players (due to sunkcost)
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>>1541542
hoyofags are called the tendies of gacha industry for a reason
they swarm like flies around the shit they conzoom and viciously lash out when you criticize the shit in the middle
>>1541544
agree with this
gacha does not encourage developers to put any effort as long as they make shitloads of money from a single banner
there should only be seasonal monthly passes at most instead of monetization of characters, weapons and other shit like elves/bangboos
there should be a respectable amount of effort put back into the game depending on the profits
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>>1541551
>there should be a respectable amount of effort put back into the game depending on the profits
putting aside the whole culture war BS, this is the biggest problem with Mihoyo, it feels like they just rather make a new game than improving what they have. Even with all the shit they are giving out in Genshin nothing they are doing improves the game in a meaningful way.
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>>1541551
>there should be a respectable amount of effort put back into the game depending on the profits
>>1541554
Hoyofans will just eat up those nuclear reactors instead. "Wow! Tokamak so cool!". "Wow! Olympic sponsorship!" No wonder those shills never get anything.
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>>1541539
>for Wuwa, H. Ravoc can be a discounted banner, or buy with gems)
That would've been extremely stupid, come on
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So apparently CN dug up another mihoyo self insert. This time Topaz from HSR. Topaz is based on this person, and her yuri ship with Jade is based on a past friendship/crush or some shit

https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9133518856
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9133741235
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>>1541531
>go back to our roots
Lol, what roots? They have been doing the same exact shit since 1.0.
But what comforts me is that they indeed felt the leash on their necks with how many fuckups they've been doing and that it started to show in their dropping revenue since sumeru.
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>>1541608
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>>1541608
>>1541613
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>>1541510
Cringe, they released a game with an absurd amount of omitted QoL and we should thank them because they decided to fix the game after four years? WuWa must have scared them a lot, but not enough since these developers still live in a world of their own.
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>>1541608
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Lmao
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>>1541635
That's going to leave a mark. Poor bastards are getting a taste of what western players have been dealing with for years.
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>>1541517
>and Genshin's cameraman bullshit is the industry standard as many older gacha games do the same shit.
Play more games fag, even snowbreak has a MC that does something and is not a camera cuck, people also say the same about Limbus, Nikke used to be like that before they started pandering to normalfags in their first half anniversary. Genshin always treated their MC like dogshit, way more than any other gacha and that's because how much their devs hates and despise any (you) pandering and they self insert themselves into characters >>1541397 >>1541358
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This shit has the potential of killing Homoverse in china.
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>>1541577
Why not, a weaker version can be given for free, why a stronger version can be treated as a proper SSR char
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>>1541353
Goddamn, why is aether so fucking gay?
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>>1541650
They're already dying this drama is just worsening their situation.
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>>1541653
LGBT+ company, their female mc is also bland as fuck thanks to that too.
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>Topaz is a tranny's self-insert

lmaooooooo
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This fiasco only confirmed what Menggan bro had said "prototype of Durandal is Cristiano Ronaldo".
Some chinks had comment: "If we play game full of selfinserts then why not play Tencent Virtual Circle? At least they are selling selfinserts publicly instead of hiding as with mhy"
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>>1541662
Topazbros…
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>>1541551
I agree but since unfortunately we are in the era of gacha I think that maybe allowing you to have both the character and the weapon guaranteed at least for the first copy could be a decent compromise and could push some players to spend, or there should be laws that put a cap on how much a virtual good can cost, it is absurd to pay 100-200$ for an incomplete product that moreover does not lose value over time like normal video games.
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>>1541662
>I came to digital versions of a tranny
well... uhhh... yeah.
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>>1541613
>>1541608
>>1541662
i would pay money to see the faces of those who whaled for this when they find out
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>>1541662
>>>1541668
b-b-but china is b-b-based!!!
LMAO
i wish the japs werent such retarded lazy boomer hacks, then we could get actual good gacha/liveservice games without any of this dogshit chingchong foidticide drama
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>>1541662
>I took all my annual leave and prepared to have my surgery.
>I found out the gender was written as female
LMAO Can't make this up, even with the fuck up auto translation this shit is just wayyyyy too funny
>>1541668
Fucking this, their reaction would be fucking gold
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>>1541668
chink males who spend shitloads on shittoyo gacha are already beyond saving
and do we actually expect anything from western whales? lol
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>>1541669
>thinking japs are not the same as well
Not even defending chinks, but just see the state that is FF14 and Granblue fantasy. Here in the west we are also full of globohomo, difference is people here in the west is fighting against, i also see some chinks doing the same and meanwhile japs still passive about it
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>>1541673
It's a shame japs are also drinking the LGBT koolaid. At least chinks are fighting against it now.
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>>1541675
It fucking sucks that companies like Square and Capcom is now kneeling to those faggots and censoring to appeal those trannies
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>>1541645
The traveler should be this entity that has traveled worlds and therefore should have experience and should have seen all sorts of things but it is written so badly that if I were the writer I would be ashamed. At this point I think that Paimon is a carrier of a virus that leads to mental regression of those who remain in contact with her too much otherwise I could not explain in lore the dialogues, which are useless, of the Traveler.
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>>1541677
Square has been bleeding a shitton of money in the few years, they will have to backtrack sooner or later
But crapcom is still on a comfortable spot with all their shit they've been releasing
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>ugliest, overdesigned, uninspired character designs in the market
>most shallow action gameplay in every single one of their games, no depth, repetitive
>post-genshin-release cosmetics are rare, even then they are overdesigned, barely feel different than the default ones, and not worth buying
>gameplay loop revolves around endlessly grinding every single resource for months, just to build one character
>events are low effort management sims and menus
>most new content is just reskin of existing stuff instead of actual additions on top of the base game
>barely any actual cutscenes, most of the story is narrated through endless rambling dialog and visual novel sloppa
hoyofags genuinely only play hoyoslop because it's HiGh QuALiTy and have never played any interesting/engaging games in their lives
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>>1541678
Exactly it just so badly written, but that's because the writers just hate their MC and rather write about their self insert characters instead.
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>>1541683
Well keep in mind Genshin was a lot of peoples first gacha, when previous they were stigmatized as the "cheap png collectors". So that is all they have to cope with.
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>>1541682
>But crapcom is still on a comfortable spot with all their shit they've been releasing
Looks like Capcom lost some money this year, due to Dragon's dogma 2 not doing so well and looks like their censored Remake of Dead rising is going to flop also. Capcom are money chasers and i wouldn't be surprised if they went back after their games starts flopping or the hate train against their censoring starts growing.
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>>1541662
what the actual fuck, i new i felt repelled by HSR for a reason, glad i never played it.
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>>1541683
I played BOTW before I ever touched genshin, and was playing WoW at the time I first started genshin. I liked early genshin, it felt like a single player MMO, it had good characters, the exploration was enjoyable, story was simple, servicable and enjoyable, especially considering it was a free game, and my WoW sub was $15 per month. Genshin of today is utter slop, I agree with you there.
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i am not retarded enough to believe hoyo is ever going to be dethroned as the anime gacha king, but it's only a matter of time some gachatard subhuman developer grows a spine and delivers a sensible live service game, instead of sheepishly following trends, that doesnt feel as oppressive, stingy and low effort as hoyo gacha
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>>1541662
>topaz is a fucking troon
Where does this, the Jadechads, leave us?
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>>1541608
Keep your schizophrenia to yourself you fucks.
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>>1541698
it had potential, yes
i was hoping they would quickly add traveler customization, horses, new weapon types, ability to wield any weapon on the traveler, physics, etc
but i realized it was shit the moment the 1.1 trailer dropped and saw they are never actually going to put their profits back into the game
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>>1541698
>>1541705
I like how everyone totally memoryholed the fact that they indeed ripped-off Nier Automata animations for the claymore characters
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>>1541702
Jade is based on the troon's friend
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>>1541675
>>1541673
The Nips aren't really passive about it but there isn't anything they can do because they were abandoned by the console gaming industry in favor for the west.
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>>1541704
the truth hurts
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>>1541712
>they were abandoned by the console gaming industry
Their own fault for turning their attention to mobile shit in its time
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>This account doesn’t exist
kek
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>>1541714
>Their own fault for turning their attention to mobile shit in its time
That wasn't the reason why Sony made a policy that retroactively killed ecchi console games on their platform back in 2018, theres a reason why both otaku and weebs effectively fled to mobages in the first place.
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>>1541711
it's funny, i see a lot of people get called schizos or chinkcels for calling out the dev's shipbaiting, but now we know it's true, devs are literal self inserting troons
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>>1541720
So why is it okay when they do it, but not okay when we do it?
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>>1541717
which one?
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>>1541725
Nyes
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>self inserters get made fun of by Mihomo fags
>turns out they're the ones paying to roll for the devs' self inserts

lmaooooooooooooooooo this absolute clown industry
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>Homoverse creates their self-inserts
>ships them with other characters
Waiting to see who Jane Doe is for and who the fuck Seth is.
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>>1541734
The rat prostitute is literally built to being knotted by that furry faggot Seth, anon
Seth is a fucking furry, lmao
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Genshin is so saved bwos, now we get a 55/45 instead of a 50/50! Did I also mention instead of hitting pity twice on the weapon banner all you need to do is hit it ONCE now??!?!?? GET EXCITED!!!!!
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can't wait for heartopia to release so i can finally free myself from hoyoslop forever
it's so hard to find just decent live service mobile game that you can enjoy during restroom breaks or commutes
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>>1541735
Yeah but who is the furfag and mihomo and who is the rat. I'm seriously expecting one of them to have previous worked in adult films at this point.
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>>1541734
it's all starting to make sense
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>>1541726
Fu Hua self-insert also deleted her Weibo and the 2017 video where she appears also got deleted.
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>>1541746
>Fu Hua self-insert also deleted her Weibo and the 2017 video where she appears also got deleted.
The funny thing is that she deleted her Weibo just hour after they dug her info (2 am at CN)
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You know, I would've defended Hoyo before but now... sigh...
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It's funny to see how chinks only know what we had already known ages ago
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41294372
>I don't understand why trans people have a high mortality rate.
>Taking hormone drugs + undergoing sex reassignment surgery is very harmful to health. Especially taking drugs is equivalent to having a debuff that continuously loses health points + continuously reduces the upper limit of health.
>Oh my god, it’s okay that the XP is damp, but I can’t understand why they don’t want this life.
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Let feminist run their games really hurt the revenue kek
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>Throughout the history of gaming, there is only one company that deserves to be nailed to the pillar of shame and cursed for eternity, and that is Mihoyo, which has introduced fan clubs into the gaming circle on a large scale.
>They have trained players to think of themselves not as players but as dogs of manufacturers
>They have made consumers become sons and manufacturers become fathers, and they have used games as a tool to find self-identity and as a weapon to attack others
What is our counterpart to oyohim in the West, bros? Are Nintendrones or Snoys comparable to Hoyodrones?
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>>1541746
So all this Hoyo stuff that's being talked about is recent?
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>>1541770
HOTTEST DRAMA JUST DISCOVERD YESTERDAY
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>>1541766
yes
i already said it before, hoyofags are the tendies of gacha industry
they dont care if the company they worship treats them all like bitches, they will still bend over for seconds
ultimately, it's these "people" who enable such shit in the hobbies that were once not polluted by spiteful developers, their brainless simps and enablers/bootlickers
the fact that chinkoyo males still put so much money into shittoyo slop after the hi3 global anniversary incident says everything
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>>1541766
What playerbase buys ports of decades old games at 60 dlls?
What playerbase keeps buying the same low effort game over and over again for decades?
The nintendo playerbase is the most similar to the hoyo playerbase.
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>>1541766
Tendies definitely, those guys eat shit with a smile and demand nothing from Nintendo. Nintendo is a company built 100% on nostalgia. They're given a free pass, simply because they are behind, they don't add LGBT shit, but only because they're late to the party. Now they've been slowly pandering to that crowd. Sony is trash, but most fans of Sony left, mostly only troons support Sony.
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>>1541781
>the designated tranny pic
Oh no no no
Topazbros totally in shambles now
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>>1541781
>>1541786
I’m going to kill myself.
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Is every character in Mihoyo's games based on their employees? The fuck is wrong with the company.
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>>1541781
not gonna lie, Topaz looks quite cute like xer. I wouldn't care if xer isn't an annoying tranny
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>>1541781
>imagine you fapped to topaz, a literal troon
uh, jade is safe r-right guys?
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>>1541781
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>>1541792
Jade is the friend anon…
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>>1541789
Maybe Signora wasn't. That's why she's the only one that was killed in genshin.
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>>1541792
If Jade is paired with her then she's one of the insert.
>>1541789
Maybe this is the explanation Mihoyo claims they are making idol game. Because they think they are the idols.
It also explains why they are reluctant to do (you) pandering story because the ultimate goal is making themselves virtual idols and shipping themselves.
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>>1541797
>make themselves the idols
That level of narcissism is right up their alley.
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>>1541608
>>1541789
>leaks saying that natlan will have more females than males
>da wei just said that they are "going back to their roots"
>CN just found out about the self-inserts and it definitely reached hoyo's ears
Will this mean that Natlan will save (You) pandering in genshin?
They need to save this region somehow after floptaine and shitmeru, right?
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>>1541815
until all the troons and feminists are fired, i expect nothing, they even shipped the rat girl in zzz, the supposed "straight man's" game
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>>1541815
Hoyoverses “roots” was never with (you) pandering.
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>>1541815
>Natlan will save (You) pandering in genshin?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIEjSsN_ePY

Pyro Archon will be shipped with the Captian calling it now.
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>>1541815
People said the same shit when Floptaine got leak and only had 3 males and guess what happened? Oh yeah, endless dragon cock riding with him being the most OP character in the game and cuckbaiting just in the last event, because the dev needs to keep shilling his self insert with Scara
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Who's navia based on?
t. hoyo slurper
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>>1541815
Hoyoverse has always done maybe 2 "(you)" pandering girls per game. I am hesitant to even call it (you) pandering because of how watered down it is.
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>>1541823
>flirting with furry boy
>people endless shill this game as a (you) pandering game for straight males
I'm not surprised
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>>1541760
there werent a lot of tr*nnies in CN back then
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>>1541823
Nah, harbingers are the only ones that still make money in this shit, they wouldn't make capitano that dirty
Mavuika will be for Xbalanque
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>"Himeko" expy
Just wait for the Welt expy.
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>>1541838
bro ur zhongli
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>>1541795
Signora is probably an employee who criticized Hoyo and was fired or left and they killed their character out of spite.
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If I play these kinds of gacha games as a F2P who does not spend, am I a problem for the company, a benefit for them, or simply neutral? I imagine a benefit, but only slight. I’m a player number for the player count, but I am not engaging on what these games have been designed to do.
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>>1541774
what's FGO then
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>>1541855
Generally they care about player retention. As long as you log in every day that is a positive metric they can use to appeal to investors. I am not sure how well that works for private companies, but it is a big thing for public ones.
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>>1541855
absolutely, you are part of the content, always a net positive, unless you somehow manage to not engage with anyone at all. If you're on a bus playing the game, and someone sees you, you are a billboard of advertisement. If you do co-op, you are a filler player for a paying customer. If you discuss the game on forums, you are keeping the community alive and active. The company's hope is down the road, that you make a spenditure, it could be something as simple as buying a skin once, or a welkin pass for one month, you will eventually break.
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>>1541855
You're contributing to the engagement metrics either way.
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should I be playing some other gacha game or should I skip the genre overall?
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>>1541139
Why does this chart have games that never have threads here like OPM World but never games that have permanent threads here like SMT Dx2?
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>>1541865
>some other
What are you playing right now?
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>>1541867
It's a chart from a reddit user that chooses the games they like to track. So there are many pretty popular ones that aren't on the list.
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>>1541865
I play gachas because china/korea is doing what Japan is supposed to be doing. I hate western gaming, I used to play mostly JRPGs in the ps1/ps2/ps3 era. Everything is becoming pozzed it seems, I only feel strongly about snowbreak and nikke.
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>>1541865
There is only one really good one and I'm not telling you which one it is.
>should I skip the genre overall?
That's the correct answer. You never even had to ask.
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>>1541868
gbf mostly but it's looking like it's eos probably
tried out zzz
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>>1541875
Then just skip the gacha completely. ZZZ not worth playing. Though GBF was not worth playing, either. So many your slop tolerance is high enough for it.
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>>1541683
>>ugliest, overdesigned, uninspired character designs in the mark-ACK!
Mavuika looks fucking amazing. And her hair turning to fire hyped up everyone.
And has big boobs.
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>>1541885
too bad she's going to do nothing and cuck you with the all-powerful worm shilled in this new region
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>>1541855
Benefit, whales need F2Ps to lord over in order to stick around. Padding out the playerbase helps ensure that the whales spend.
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>>1541698
>single player MMORPG
so an rpg?
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>>1541885
>built for xbalanque
keep dreaming cuckther, keep the camera rolling
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>>1541870
I see, thanks.
Is it still impossible to track these without that paid website?
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>>1541879
you hate gacha games and recommend skipping the gacha genre entirely
yet you seem to spend a lot of time on /vmg/ - Video Games/Mobile

What's going on here?
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>>1541896
No, because the world is interactive and ever-changing like a MMO. There are events constantly, there is also co-op, people can join your world, and there's chat. It's constantly getting new content. RPGs are isolated, one and done, no reason to play again after finishing.
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>>1541865
Avoid the genre if you can-many gacha players will tell you the same, even in fucking r/gachagaming.
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>>1541885
She's based on a feminist employee
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>>1541924
so it's like how smokers tell you not to smoke?
odd behavior to be in /vmg/ which is even more niche and perhaps cancerous than /vg/ and to hate mobile games.
is it an act of proselytization?
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>>1541926
is that real or ai slop? since when does hoyo do bikinis? last time i've seen them was honkai impact
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>>1541150
>>1541178
>>1541900
There are other sites that release their own data. Some free. Also, like anons said, there are some potential flaws even to the paid data so believe what what you will / need.
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>>1541905
I did not say I hate gacha. Anon was about to play ZZZ and played GBF before. Hard to get more boring than that so I would not recommend continuing gacha in that context.
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>>1541345
>Self inserters and trannies are two sides of the same coin
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>>1541349
he was making a joke maybe
newfags won't get this
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>>1541936
who is this jew?
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>>1541936
different time
trannies werent a thing and he certainly didnt mean literally as in cut my cock and balls off and call me mootie you bigot
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>>1541927
Chinkcels would prevent you from playing the good ones(hoyogames) at all cost simply because they have the lowest entry barrier.
I see no harm in trying it if you're a thinking adult since it's all free anyway.
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>>1541873
Same, brother. Grew up playing JRPGs. My favorite series are Suikoden, where each game has a huge cast of characters (108) and even a base you gradually built up. It was like a prototype gacha only instead of having to roll for the characters you just needed to find a guide on how to recruit them all.
Japan gaming has fallen so hard. It makes me sad. The HD era is really when they started to collapse and at this point there's just nothing left. AA JRPGs don't exist anymore. Just have to settle with gacha.
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>>1541936
>making a joke
>when is know gayshit community is full of unironically trannies
sure thing buddy
>newfags
Oldfags would bully any fag who pretended to be a girl, even fucking COD zoomers from xbox mw2 lobbies would bully any fag like that
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>>1541885
Cool cinematic. Now here is what she looks like in game. No breast lines, no tits, no cleavage.
Hoyoslurpers will still defend this.
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>>1541966
Dishonest pic
She clearly has breast shade, even in this far away pic you can see it
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>>1541975
Wowzwers that zipper goes all the way down? HOT
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>>1541975
>
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>>1541865
play persona 3,4 and 5 instead
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>>1541975
this looks like shit
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>>1541975
This looks boring af
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>>1541977
Who cares. Did your little prick get a tingly thinking about that
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>>1541975
>another hoyoverse employee self-insert
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>>1541963
>Japan gaming has fallen.
Go further
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>>1541963
The decline of the Japanese is well represented by SRW. Banpresto used the PS2 as long as it was possible and since they entered the HD era they have not been able to make games that are up to their previous ones, especially in terms of animations, HD exposes all the "flaws" in their way of animating the sprites.
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>>1542005
I do.
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>>1542013
You need to be over 18 to post in this site
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Speaking of self-insert employees, I'm guessing Paimon is either one of those or someone's son/daughter given how self-centered the character is.
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>>1542015
>someone's son/daughter given how self-centered the character is
I would totally believe that's the case
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>>1541510
Even Todd has better acting.
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>>1541668
I'd have maybe dolphined for Topaz and I don't care. She's still a decently boobed wife with medium-short hair sporting revealing clothing and high heel boots.
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>>1541975
>shade
WHERE IS THE FUCKING CLEAVAGE. NO EXCUSES, EVEN THE OTHER HOYOSLOP HAS SOME DEGREE OF CLEAVAGE.
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Not going to touch Mihoyo games anymore after I found out one of the character I whaled is modelling after a mtf
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Does it feel like there is hardly any in-between?
One set of gacha players
>only play every new game and drops games after a while
The other set
>one play their old favorite game and don't touch new stuff
Could be reroll culture.
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>>1542014
woah calm down bruh sheesh
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>>1542040
>revealing clothing
okay slurper, you guys really don't have standards, i guess you deserve to get cucked
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>>1542049
>>1542014
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Reading this thread does feel like mihoyo (yes, the name has become a herald to cuckolding as this point) has fallen to into their own form of western degeneracy. Thought they might hold a bit longer but that would be asking a cancer to pretend it is benign. Back to nip games and wait until seasun improves, i guess.
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>>1542005
Holy ESL
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>>1542047
Let's be real, gacha games generally suck gameplay wise, and the only reason to stick to them long term is sunk cost in it's various forms.
Returning to gachas are also a pain in the ass because of how out of touch you will generally be in terms of meta.
Personally, I don't think I have ever returned to a gacha that I've dropped for more than a few weeks.
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>>1542010
I still play some of their indie games that are still good but those are still a dime and dozen. There is no big budget japanese game thats worth playing anymore after 2020 dude, it's all either rehash sequels of existing games or lazy cashgrab remakes.
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>>1542069
I actually like the gacha games that don't pretend to be grand experiences. Stuff like Azur Lane that's easy to put in the background with pretty girls, that's all I need.
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>>1541927
I don't care what you do with yourself. Play all the gachas. Play none of them. Makes no difference to me. You were going to post some pants on head retarded shit regardless. Try thinking about it on your own like a man instead of seeking a group consensus like a woman. It's not your look.
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>>1541789
narcissism
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>>1541865
SKIP SKIP SKIP
for your own sanity
unless you like cozy comfy life sim games, there isnt anything else in this dogshit genre worth playing other than heartopia, which is rumored to release for global audience later this year
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>>1541905
yeah, because this isn't a board for gacha games, it's a board for mobile games
you said it yourself
you do know there are other modes of monetization besides gacha, right? there are games in the mobile market that have other modes of monetization besides predatory gachashit tying the noose on brainless coomers and dragging them through dirt
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>>1541929
just artwork, gweirro
you wirr never get swimsuit in da gameu
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>>1542043
i feel angry knowing these are self-inserts of narcissist employees who think they are so important they need to have the spotlight over the "main character" in all of their games
unbelievable shamelessness
it's no wonder most of their characters never appealed to me
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>>1542167
Not all gacha players spend money on them
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>>1542190
still a mobile game board, not gachashit
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>>1542200
Another salty mobilefags
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>>1542204
found the /v/eddit tourist
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>>1542015
>I'm guessing Paimon is either one of those or someone's son/daughter given how self-centered the character is.

That was the case with the "godkid" in Mass effect 3.
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>going back to roots
you mean pandering to yuritroons
hi3fags are gonna be eating good
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>>1542200
i can't even name a mobile game unless it's a port of an existing IP, what are you on about? go to the app store the first 200 games will be gachas, mobile games are irrelevant, that's what consoles like 3ds and vita are for
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chinks are in a real pickle
they get treated like shit but they also cannot abandon their national pride company that received gorrillion standing ovations from supreme overlord xi sama himself, so they must support the company no matter what!
are there other chinese companies that treat their players like shit or is this the only one?
there has to be AT LEAST ONE that makes good character designs, good gameplay, doesnt have any drama, doesnt treat their players like shit, right?
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>>1542238
What's your template? Something like Alice gear aegis ?
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>>1542238
>they get treated like shit but they also cannot abandon their national pride company that received gorrillion standing ovations from supreme overlord xi sama himself, so they must support the company no matter what!
In what world are you living on? Chinks are dunking Mihomo harder than anyone here in the west, they are the ones who got gaywei to cry >>1541510 and promise a bunch of shit he will not deliver. If chinks could, they would burn Mihomo with everyone inside
t deliver. If chinks could, they would burn Mihomo with everyone inside
>there has to be AT LEAST ONE that makes good character designs, good gameplay
I don't even play it, but WuWa already has better design than anything genshin makes and people keep saying the gameplay is better Not a hard thing to accomplish since gayshit gameplay is just Q + E spam
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>>1542254
are you stupid? what part of "supporting" did you not understand? mihomo games are still making banks off their chinese players
chinks are still slurping mihomo cum out of their ravaged anally raped assholes
this online seething means nothing when mihomo ultimately still makes money by abusing these chink slave bitches by shitting out endless self-inset characters ship-paired with their fetish characters
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none of wuwa's dogshit designs beat mona and ganyu
>i don't even play it
figures
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both are shit games with shit gameplay and shit character designs
when some subhuman gachanigger developer will finally make a gacha game where you can create your own waifu/husbando instead of rolling for self-inserts and instead of having players roll 7 copies of a character + 5 copies of a weapon to make them complete, then we can start seeing change in the gacha industry
until then, every one of these greedy hacks is going to copy the mihomo template
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>>1542263
>losing so much money that they need to backtrack and cry on stream
>promises a bunch of shit because he can't stop losing players
The video of the faggot crying is there for you to watch. You are the stupid one to believe he would do that for nothing after years of treating gayshit players like shit. Gayshit is bleeding players because chinks can't stop dunking on them, pretend as much as you want, that's the truth
>>1542265
>Censored girls
Cope, i don't need to play to see it with my own eyes gayshit characters designs are terrible
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>>1542272
>crying on stream again
This guy is such a showboat. Didn't he tried the same schtick on TGS or something with H3rd ?
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>>1542272
nah, they didnt lose that much money
they are still rolling in cash, especially thanks to their chink paypiggies
mihomo isnt going to die out, and they succeeded in painting themselves as the victim if you think they are struggling due to few losses
>>1542276
yeah
it's all drama
he fell for the fake tears
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>>1542276
Who knows, i only saw this video posted here on the thread of that faggot crying like a little bitch
>>1542277
Stop pretending, they treated gayshit players like dogshit for 4 years and only now they are saying something for the angry chinks to calm down Its not going to work, they still hate them. They wouldn't do any of this if they where fine like the last 3-4 years, now they are even giving freebies out of desperation, something unheard of those greedy fuckers
>mihomo isnt going to die out, and they succeeded in painting themselves as the victim if you think they are struggling due to few losses
You are talking like im saying that they will go bankrupt the next day, when all i'm saying is that they are bleeding players so hard that they need to act out of desperation. Something you can clearly see since they are not making as much money as they used to and they need to act
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>>1542280
still doesnt matter because chinks are going to keep supporting the dogshit company
someone post the chart with their paypiggy distribution
chinks (and japs) are still the top spenders in their games, compared to other regions
your point is moot
until the chinks make mihomo go bankrupt, this means nothing, which i doubt will ever happen because chinks are soulless slop slurpers
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The only probable downfall we can somewhat expect is their expenditures exceeding their revenue/CoH. They earn big money, sure. But how much they spend ? We know mhy dumps extreme amounts into advertising. 5000 personal ? Something does not quite tally.
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>>1542281
>Repeat the same shit 3 times and didn't address anything
Fuck you then faggot, i'm losing my time and my braincelss with retards like you. Keep coping while i laugh at gayshit bleeding players and FagWei crying like a little bitch for chinks to come back
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>>1542283
i can guarantee you they dont even lose 10% of their profits when investing back into existing or new games
they have shittons of money, they simply choose not to spend it because they know their audience is retarded cattle
>>1542284
until chinks actually stick to their word and dunk mihomo down the drain, this shit means nothing
you are a retard who thinks something will happen when there are near zero chances of it happening
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>>1542286
Cope faggot while i laugh a FagWei tears for chinks to come back and gayshit last 2 regions flopping hard
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>genshin still doing fin-ACK
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>>1542289
yeah, now tell the chinks to stop putting money into all mihomo games
why did that still not happen? despite being treated like shit for 4 years, all three post-genshin mihomo games are still making bank
i thought the controversy was big and chinks were super pissed!
the truth is chinks are abused bitches who love their abusive husbands
they are still going to slurp the slop
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>>1542292
Cope, didn't read
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>>1542293
kek you are the one coping here
hard coping
look at both of these charts
they are both recent and you can see how the game has still made millions in just the past few months of 2024
do you actually think it takes them a billion to make one version update of the game? no
like i said before, they probably dont even put back 10% of the profits they earn back into their existing and new projects, and it's all because they know their audience is brainless cattle
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>>1542294
Cope, didn't read again
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>>1542295
I almost spilled my water laughing at this, even ntr cucks are leaving genshin now, fucking KEK
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gachafags really think a billionaire company giving out ONE 5-star freebie after 4 years is a definite sign the company is falling apart
LMFAO
>>1542296
it's okay to be angry and sad
when you know everything you believe in is hopelessly stupid and wrong
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>>1542295
burn baby, burn.
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>>1542299
Cope, still didn't read anything you posted
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>>1542299
>altering both the 50-50 pity and the artifacts
hmmmmmmmmm prehaps the chart poster is onto something.
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>>1542302
They are THAT desperate lol
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>>1542302
Elaborate please.
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>>1542305
50-50 is now 55-45 and they are allow us to choose the main stat and two substats of the artifacts.
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>>1542302
you mean shit that never affected them anyway?
they could give every single standard character they want for free, and still continue to make bank
it doesn't hurt them
they just don't show any of that generosity because their audience is retarded cattle
absolutely NOTHING is stopping them from removing the 50/50 and the absolutely cancerous artifact grind
they do not have anything to lose from it
you just think this minor change is a miracle from heaven because you gachafags have such abysmal low standards, you think this is indeed a billionaire company begging you to stay
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its so over
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>>1542308
I like you, your funny.
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>>1542307
>partly of stuff they should had done ages ago
>also that coinflip buff lmao

No, no. They aren't sincere.
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>>1542311
Is this the most hoyoniggers can cope with? You know what just keep eating their shit and waste your precious time and money to a corporation that will keep abusing you. You all niggercattle deserve it.
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i just want one live-service/gacha that has good character designs, gameplay, no tedious grind, no 50/50 bullshit or "roll 7 character copies + 5 weapon copies to complete a character" bullshit, no chink drama, good quality of visual presentation
i hate mihomo for setting awful trends in the gacha industry
there's plenty of other ways to monetize a live-service game, like cosmetics
fortnite does it already
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>>1542263
>chinks are still slurping mihomo cum out of their ravaged anally raped assholes
watch kurumi-chan, you're so ignorant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0JqOV7ZGos&t=3s
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>>1542322
wake me up when mihomo actually goes bankrupt and does actual changes to everything instead of handing out crumbs
gachafags have no standards if they think any of the changes in genshit 5.0 are significant
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>>1542298
>genshin
bro it literally says honkai impact
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>>1542322
kurumi go back to /gig/
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>>1542315
Snowbreak.
>no 50/50
>dupes are farmable
>dailies are done in less than a minute(officially stated average is 40s)
>only drama is hoyoshills attacking the game
>gameplay is TPS
>characters are all for (you)
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Anyone else finding talking about gacha is just fun? I am having fun like it's the 00s console wars era all over again.
What can you actually talk about in AAA gaming? Besides gloating over failures like Concord, there's just nothing, and gloating isn't even really a discussion.
In the gacha space there is still room for upstarts, dark horses, comeback stories, everything.
Also the companies are symbolized by cute anime girls (webm related) instead of whatever manjaw or actual man the West puts at the front of their games.
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>>1542328
Because you only watch the shills, while you ignore all the people who oppose oyohim. Without their movement, how could Genshin declined so fast over two years? You are just a defeatist, as if oyohim is the undefeatable dragon.
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tencent is undefeatable
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>>1542358
Tencent currently is only pump and dump, so everyone goes in their games with that mindset already, no need to oppose them atm.
Oyohim on the other hand, is the real scammer, as they promise a beautiful idea, then done nothing, and many people still don't know the true nature of this company. That why we need to spread the information, maybe it will not matter now, but in the long term it will definitely cause damage to oyohim.
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>>1542356
nigger wake me up when mihomo is bankrupt and changing everything about their gacha structure, characters, character designs, pandering, etc
why the fuck is this so hard for you to understand? do you understand english?
the fact genshit still makes millions, despite treating their players like shit, is a spit on your retarded fanfictions
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>>1542360
im pretty sure all the HI3fags know that but someone their voices are always unheard
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>>1542362
>nigger wake me up when mihomo is bankrupt and changing everything about their gacha structure, characters, character designs, pandering, etc
The theory of quick victory again, why don't you see that back then they made billions and now only millions? Oh you don't care, you only want to act high and mighty, while other people are actually going to the battlefield. How about contribute and talk to other about the predatory nature of gacha companies, instead of complaining here. This is gacha drama thread, a place to share drama info, not a place to whine, heh
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>>1542360
hoyo literally trying to do that, but that dumbass of a company actually handle the making, running and advertising the game like a moron. tencent is smart to actually just give money to gacha dev. isnt wuwa actually get money from tencent too
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>>1542364
>HI3fags
most of them had turned into anti-oyohim already (like me), but the number of honkai players is too small.
but we need to radicalize genshinfags, that is the main breadbasket of oyohim.
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>>1542366
What I want to say is that people already know Tencent are predatory, but oyohim still have too many people who don't know yet, that why they can scam so much money from players.
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>>1542368
Ok, explain how tencent predatory in this field when all they do is giving money to the dev? from what i've gather they dont do fuck all at developing a game
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>>1542369
Mainly in China, idk the details but Tencent is notorious there as from the sentiments I read. People said Tencent games had too many things to pay (monetization), but at least what you pay is what you get, and there are no Tencent simps, you can criticize a Tencent game when it's bad and everyone will agree with you.
Meanwhile, oyohim slurpers will attack you online (or even doxxing last year) if you criticize oyohim games.
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All of mecha musume entrusts themselves to AGA. All the plamo brands entrust themselves to AGA. AGA will carry mecha musume.
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>>1542365
>How about contribute and talk to other about the predatory nature of gacha companies
a evil doer who obviously looks evil is still better than an evil doer that is under the guise of righteousness and goodwill. both are still bad but the latter is worse because it is capable of fooling many more people to their bidding.
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>>1542375
I'm not doing it for righteousness, I'm doing it for my benefits.
If company like oyohim exists then many other companies will follow the practice of oyohim, then how could I have "good" gacha to enjoy.
I'm doing this for ME, but maybe someone will also benefit from this. That's why I talk out
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>>1542372
They still doxx people. One of them doxxed an military officer and he fled to Thailand.
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The whole Natlan presentation is a huge joke and most players fell for it like idiots.

WL9 increases the drop rate but how many players have the stats to compete at that level?
The 5* selector is ridiculous, most of those characters are obsolete, if they really wanted to be generous they would give away Kazuha who is a must have or they would make a selector with the best DPS in the game.
Three free 4* weapons, but we all know that there are few free 4* weapons that are worth something.
20 wishes is not bad and maybe if someone is lucky thanks to the new 55/45 they might not get Qiqi, but I have my doubts.
But the most absurd thing is immediate access to the Natlan quest, it's basically as if Hoyo was ashamed of everything they did before.

I hope that the players will open their eyes sooner or later, Genshin could be a great game but at the moment it is managed by people interested only in profit.
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>>1542378
what, i really don't know they still do that this year after one of them being caused by police, is there a link for more info?
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>>1542377
>If company like oyohim exists then many other companies will follow the practice of oyohim, then how could I have "good" gacha to enjoy.
those may follow the sleazy tactics because its the trend as is the case for many things, but not many are capable of having the same brainwashing effect. thats why everyone should speak up with making as much controversy as possible against the tyranny of companies abusing their audience no matter how much sprinkles they want to add to their shit.
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>>1542343
Yes, it's fun to PvP on reddit, 4chan, and other forums, kek
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>>1542381
I got the info from Tieba but I don't have an account so I can't find the post. It was a while ago.
Also they use weird synonym to avoid detection so it's paid to find it again without knowing the correct terms.
I think the doxx video is still on Bilibili (it colludes with MHY).
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>>1542388
it's pain
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>>1542380
>Genshin could be a great game but at the moment it is managed by people interested only in profit
that was my opinion 4 years ago
and it hasnt changed a bit since then
not even after the "changes" and freebies they are giving to players after 4 years
it had a ton of potential back when it released, but it was clear they simply didn't care about the game, building up on the base, adding tons of features that could have really fleshed out the game, the characters, the overworld, make the monetization friendly, etc
they simply double-downed on the greed with star rail, triple-downed on the greed with zzz, and will now quadruple-down on the greed with their animal crossing clone
anyone falling for this is simply worms-for-brains retarded
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oh nooo mihoyo burning down let's forget about dozens of dying waifu games
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>>1542393
Just don't play live service game.
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>>1542362
The fuck is your problem? You seem to hate Genshit with a passion yet kept being denial about it doing way worse than before, which is a fact and should be good thing. Forget the bankruptcy shit, answer this question. Would you rather mihomo make 2020 money, or today's money which is way less? Just celebrate the small Ws when you can, why the fuck you have so defeatist about it? Or is this some weird reverse psychology shilling I'm seeing here?
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>>1542402
true
all live service is doomed to be trash since you never know if the game will even get anything you want
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AHAHAAAAHAA
Me too...
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>small W
kek
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Honestly I've never been too hopeful with Genshin. Whenever shills hype it up, they have to compare it to bottom-of-the-barrel games. The game isn't amazing and feels like style over substance. All that led to was more CN devs trying to go for production value without good gameplay. Too cutscenes and effects in everything now.
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>>1542409
I don't get it.
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>>1542410
let him live in his fantasy world
he really thinks a game that has been trash for 4 years yet making huge profits is now going to topple
like always, genshin will keep having its ups and downs because their main customer base, the chinese and japanese, love being treated like dirt
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>>1542411
yeah, exactly
genshin fucked up the gacha market by setting terrible trends
now everyone wants to develop their own "genshin" instead of trying something new and interesting, with refreshing character designs and engaging gameplay
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i really hope mugen is received widely and becomes a success, and sets its own trends instead of following the predatory gacha standard set by hoyo
nte is already looking like a cheap genshin reskin with an urban theme, so i dont have much hope in it
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>>1542415
Yeah, even if they really are going under, that won't magically skyrockets any male-oriented game's revenue in any way. Japchinks would simply jump ship to any other popular omnislop(fgo) or go back to where they came from(also fgo)
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you know, i was really hopeful with tower of fantasy
it had everything i liked
character customization, ability to use any weapons on your character, mounts, other really good traversal options like that rocket and hoverboard
they fucked it up by being greedy af
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>>1542432
What's the biggest part of the greed that turned you away and how long did you play?
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>>1542434
literally dropped it the very first version of the global release
it also had character copies, no weapon copies since the characters themselves are like skins, but iirc, there was gacha for the equivalent of artifacts
plus, the shitty swimsuit gacha, which they should have just given to all players instead of being greedy about it
it really would have survived longer if the developers went above and beyond to make the game f2p friendly and occasionally showered freebies like the swimsuit
oh, and there was also the thing with limited rolls and players being able to hack and steal items from other players' inventories
it had good concept and features, but the developers clearly wanted to leech off as much as they can from a quick global port before the ship sank
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>>1542343
RetardBro, it's the same as a sports team, or anything else that people can support that is separated into distinct groups. Human beans love to gossip and do this shit.
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>>1542402
The funny thing is that all those so called QoL that are being added piecemeal for genshin have been released patch by patch in HSR, so they have the capacity to do it, they just don't give a shit about about genshin. Now HSR has tons of other issues though (like blatant powercreeping and favoritism between units).
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>>1542410
>>1542415
>>1542426
Loser mindset. Whatever you say, bro. I'mma keep supporting games worth supporting, games like Wuwa, games like Snowbreak, while condemning upcoming shit like AP if they do omni pandering. Now this is the part where you type some laughing onomatopoeia at me for thinking that would change anything. I don't fucking care; I'm doing my part. What about you? Do you honestly think that your defeatist, suicidal, pessimistic whining and seething on this thread will change the gacha scene to something to your liking? If you've given up, then at the very least don't drag others down with your misery.
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>no u
>whatever
>i don't care
Imax level projection
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>>1542459
It's ok bro, you can just rest. I'll fight the battle for you. Can't say I will win, though, but at least I'm doing something. Love you, too.
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>>1542452
>>1542463
Based. Bro, help me fight when AP CBT or release later. I need every help I can get, so that dev will think that our will is playerbase will.
I know that manjuu will still try to do omnipander route and they'll be forced to go back to male-pandering way, just like every non otome games. The more we fight, the faster they will take that route.
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>>1542452
doing your part? by bitching endlessly in gacha drama threads? lol
do something that will actually have an effect, like shaming chinks and japs into not putting their money into mihomo slop
>Do you honestly think that your defeatist, suicidal, pessimistic whining and seething
ah sweet projection
a 4chan original
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>>1542459
he has been going on and on about something that has near zero chances of happening
let him live in his delusional fantasy world
the only thing one can actually hope for is some gacha developer with a spine going beyond to put effort into good character designs, well written characters, engaging gameplay, exceptional f2p structure that sets a new trend in the industry instead of sheepishly following mihomo's predatory standard of having to roll 7 characters and 5 weapons to complete one kit, good fanservice for both the males and females so there's no drama, etc
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>cries on HI3 stream
>HI3 fucking dies
>cries on Genshit stream
>???
Future is looking good bros.
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>>1542482
I'm already seeing a "HI3 part 2" vibe with how they are marketing Natlan
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>>1541531
>admit there are "problems"
>don't talk about the problems
>talk about his travel vlog instead
>end with a "trust me, bro"
The sad part is millions will believe corporate act and sweep every bad things they did under the rug
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It only makes sense for Mihoyo to focus on each release more than their older one. They should focus on Genshin less than Star Rail and Zenless. And Star Rail less than Zenless. When they make a new one they should focus on Star Rail less than Zenless and their new one. Eventually once they have a certain amount, they should EoS their oldest and look at it as part of their history.
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What is a companies or businesses goal? To make money. Those of you thinking a perfect gacha will release that will cater to every rightful complaint you have are truly delusional. We live on a capitalist planet where raising the GDP seems to be humanity’s only goal. And you’re trying to change the genre of game that is designed to make bank more than any other? The gacha genre? You’re wasting your breath. Enjoy what they put out as free to play, or vote with your wallet and don’t play them. But enough with the preaching trying to change cause it is sad to constantly see you putting in so much effort for something that these corporations will not change or listen to.
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>>1542495
sounds just like my boss fr fr
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>>1542501
>cater to every rightful complaint you have are truly delusional
Just don't play shit games. Those who complain about their games always play the same ones. You know which ones.
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>>1541510
>go back to our roots
Great! I am waiting for outfits like this for every female character in their big three games: Genshin, Star Rail, and Zenless Zone Zero. How much time will it take them to prove us they aren't full of shit?
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>>1542495
They are already believing it, doesn't matter if their reaction is positive or negative. There's even a retard here who thinks they are desperate to beg for players, even though the Chinese and Japanese won't stop putting their money into mihomo slop.
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>>1542510
That's not happening, Mihomo has long been infiltrated by feminists and LGBT. Fu Hua is based on a misandrist ugly feminist and she's been in the company since 2017.
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>>1542512
>Fu Hua is based on a misandrist ugly feminist and she's been in the company since 2017.
What a shame because the character design is my favorite.
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>>1542511
>nips
maybe, but the it's different with the chinks, there is already the sign of bubble collapsing. Next year, Azur Promilia and NtE will even drain more players from mihoyo.
btw, you are mistaken that I want to see mihoyo changed. NO, that company didn't, won't and cannot change at all. It needed to be dead, so that it serves as a lesson to other companies, just as Blizzard, SE are now faded into irrelevance.
I just want to see mihoyo dies
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>>1542501
These companies' goals are no longer to make money though, it's to satisfy themselves and disgust their players, why else would a Mihomo tranny brag on Twitter about Topaz being his self-insert? Or a man-hating feminist bragging about getting her self-insert added to Honkai? And this is just what we know about. Since the company's own employees only care about disgusting their playerbase, it's only fair for players to fight back. Also, most people complaining at this point don't want to change these games or vote with their wallet, they just want to accelerate the destruction of the videogame industry and kill off these disgusting companies, so we can go back to companies making games for straight males again.
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What these fags forget is that all these feminists and troons adding their own self-inserts are close friends with Wei the CEO of Mihoyo. Expecting them to change is laughable.
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>>1542531
Games are never going to cater to ONLY straight males again. There will be a variety of different games that cater to every which different individual. The ones that cater mainly to “straight white males” are going to take a longer time to release due to how “straight white males” have a history of oppressing other individuals who were at all different from them. Being non-white, non-straight, or women. Keep crying salty tears
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Let me guess...going back to the "root" only means that female characters will give MC an affection line or two before going away to rub some clams and forget MC even exists.
Mihomo made it clear way back in the day that they love lgbt and loath self-insert so take that line as sign to keep your expectation low, it's not going to be a change of scenery.
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>>1542534
So you mean if we opress those individuals enough we can make games stop catering to them? Nice, time to step even harder in the accelerator.
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>>1542538
You will never oppress like that ever again. Either evolve or watch the world change before you and continue being salty about it
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>>1542532
Holy keks this
Remember the time some chink retard went to stab Mistah Da Wei for the global anniversary incident? THAT is exactly when they decided to spite their players and make bank off it
These higher ups who are all close to him are in it to take revenge as well, which explains why the faggot ceo is letting them flood all the mihomo games with ugly overdesigned self-insert chinktumor reject characters that are paired with other ugly overdesigned self-insert chinktumor reject characters
Nothing's gonna change and the only best thing we can hope for is another gacha company making something that attracts more players, and hence, more profit
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>>1542543
>hope
there will be no savior, every company can shit on your head if you don't actually walk the talk and still whaling.
Say no to whaling.
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>>1542546
I will as long as the free to play experience is decent like in zzz. I haven’t pulled once but the game has been good quality.
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>>1542546
This
I doubt there's a single chingchong developer bold enough to set a new trend and put mihomo to their knees
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>>1542539
You're roughly ~1% of the global population protected by the thin veneer of western civilization, that you yourselves often advocate against. Vast majority of the world finds you vile and repulsive. You speak of evolution yet you're the designated dead end of it. So much adoration you have in systems and people who advocate your slaughter. You offer yourselves to die but not before shitting the bed and giving everyone even those who might shelter you a reason to hate you. A strange and perverse lot you are.
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>>1542526
>Azur Promilia and NtE will even drain more players from mihoyo
This is why Wuwa has been important.
Whatever amount of players they took from hoyo's hands is a plus. Also maybe hoyo didn't really anticipate this but their playerbase didn't actually grow with the release of ZZZ. It only dispersed more that playerbase which meant the same amount of revenue across 3 games, but with the production and marketing costs of 3 games now.
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>>1542534
>>1542539
>tranny delusions after one woke trash is flopping after another because the 1% doesn't buy anything and is not enough to sustain a industry
>Majority wont survive past 30 and will soon join the 41%
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Echocalypse good?
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>even with two more games release hoyoverse cannot reach Genshin's launch month revenue
lmao
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>>1542572
turns out stabbing your heterosexual fanbase in the back isnt a good move financially
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>>1542572
>>1542573
Nah turns out it’s because Genshin was botw clone during covid lockdown
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>>1542571
Old, outdated and powercrept characters, and some even straight trash like Dehya, but oh well, there's always unlucky fuckers that are still missing one of those so I guess they will be happy for it.
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western genshin community is doing us a favor by being piece of shit unlikable fandom
they drive away old players while scare off potentially new comers
the funniest thing is they barely spend and only look for free gibs
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>>1542534
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>>1542564
if you can stomach chibishit, sure, it's got good art, another azur lane basically, afk menu game
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>>1542534
ywnbaw
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>>1541345
Whats the qrd on this self insert drama?
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>>1542695
Just developers being narcissists
Doesn't help that one rabid chink also tried to murder the CEO years ago over some stupid shit, so this might be some elaborate revenge plan to intentionally self-insert, ship-pair and then "cuck" the players out of their money
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I don't get the sudden fighting in here
We were having fun with the drama, did some mihomo employee saw it and got pissed?
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>>1542702
one samefag tranny in denial probably from /gig/, many such cases
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>>1542695
Tranny who works at Mihomo (company is full of trannies apparently) claims Topaz was made based on him, and that Jade was created based on his friend. He's also claimed that all Mihoyo characters are apparently real people's self-inserts. No clue what job he has at Mihoyo but he's posted his work badge so we know he works there.
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>>1542705
Wow, luckly I never jerked off to any character besides my wife. I'm pretty sure I'd kill myself if I discovered my wife, who I've been masturbating to since 2017, was actually the self-insert of some tranny.
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So what, is this guy just a schizo tranny larping or were they actual hoyo employees
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>>1542501
>Those of you thinking a perfect gacha will release that will cater to every rightful complaint you have are truly delusional
this would be true if a company is just one big entity. in reality its a collaborative effort of many different creatives who come and go, that will either hook you with its individual characters, art, story, and combination of music as the sum of all its parts. a lot of the times the identity of the game wont stay the same as it evolve over the years for this reason
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>>1542708
He does work there he even posted his work badge. Only people saying he's a schizo are the Mihomo defenders who don't to admit they support a tranny company.
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>>1542534
>Games are never going to cater to ONLY straight males again.

Snowbreak says hello. And their profits more than quadrupled after they went this route.
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Makes me real glad I have zero interest in waifu-collector gachashit with drama like this
Heartopia can't come soon enough
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>>1542534
wrong, wrong and WRONG
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>>1542698
>Doesn't help that one rabid chink also tried to murder the CEO years ago over some stupid shit, so this might be some elaborate revenge plan to intentionally self-insert, ship-pair and then "cuck" the players out of their money
Can you schizo not take something out of your ass?
That Fu Hua joined mihoyo since 2014, and Fu Hua in Honkai 3rd (a 2016 game) had the same birthday as her! They planned this from the start, it's not related to bunny girl incident at all, baka
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>>1542717
I feel disgust for having ever playing their shit
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>>1542717
how does a tranny even get tits like that
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>>1542705
>>1542717
isn't it ironic that trannies are heavily against male gaze and pro censorship, but then this faggot tries to present his badge in a """sexy"""" way as if he's a sexy girl (most real females wouldn't even do that). I'm really starting to believe the real reason these homos are against it, is because it reminds them they are abominations.
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>>1542735
It's actually because these freaks are jealous of real women and resent that they weren't born female. Everything about female erasure and shaming straight males for showing interest in real females directly stems from this one bit of information that barely anyone talks about.
It's AGP taking to its final stage.
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>China
>Trannies
cmon guys, at least try a little harder, I'm sure the cpp hunts you if you're a tranny, or a faggot for that matter.
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>>1542735
>>1542739
No. They just hate male(including themselves). That's why they're more likely to commit suicide, because self-hate is that dangerous.
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>>1542742
are you stupid? go to pornhub and search
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>>1542748
Taiwan trannies are different, same chink language but the laws are different
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>>1542742
in case you doubt he's a tranny, here he is talking about him going to transition >>1541662 the westoid mind virus has infected china too, i'm mean cmon, look at all the gay shit easter eggs genshin and hsr put in their games
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>>1542742
The CCP doesn't care nearly as much as you think they do. Especially not when most of them would be the children of board members to begin with.
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>>1542754
>>1542760
>For years I've been told the CPP is anti lgbt and hates trannies, faggots and dykes
>uhm actually they're ok with them
???
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>>1542765
were you under the impression they're just gonna take them all to the streets and execute them in public?
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>>1542765
People get away with illegal shit all the time, what's your point?
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>>1542765
Told by who exactly? Can you point to them actually doing anything to them even once? I mean look at fucking gayshit and the characters in it.
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>>1542742
ccp only cares about loyalty to nation
otherwise they would have destroyed mihomo years before even genshin released for all the yurishit
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>>1542765
>i have been told
there
that's the problem
stop believing kikemutt propaganda, anon
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>>1542765
They have laws stopping it from being promoted, as long as you aren't doing that they don't give a shit.
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>>1542751
mainland china also have trannies, don't listen to jewish propaganda, the world everywhere is the same, (((they))) just want you to believe in US vs THEM meme
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>>1542742
https://tieba.baidu.com/f?ie=utf-8&kw=%E4%BC%AA%E5%A8%98
here a tieba for crossdressers
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>came to shit on gobshite
>billy mays
>there are not just unhinged gays within mihomo staff
>there is a fucking troon too

I can hear westoids laughing .... it is 完了.
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>>1542765
>CPP is anti lgbt and hates trannies, faggots and dykes
Yes, this is true. The lgbt+ just misinterprets them accepting eastern homo-variations for accepting lgbt+. There is a big difference. LGBT+ is a Western idea that is annoying and everyone hates. The homo-variations in the East are not the same way and are not annoying or rude.
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>>1542830
>I can hear westoids laughing ....
I don't want to laugh. I sympathize. If eastoids are reading, take this to heart; purge these faggots and don't spend a cent on any company or game that even hints at endorsing this shit. Hit them in their wallets. There is no compromising with these homos. Do not let them a foothold in anything you enjoy. They WILL ruin it.
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>>1542830
westoids are currently going on the Mihoyo is "le based" narrative for firing some random english VA
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>>1542872
did they fire sucrose VA? i play with JP dub, but would be based if they did
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>>1542844
>homo-variations in the East are not the same way and are not annoying or rude.
you have zero idea what the fuck you're talking about
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Report! Reporting in!!!
The inserter of HSR Firefly had been found!!
Latest news incoming!!!
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>>1542886
post it
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>>1542888
It's Shaoji's girlfriend (quite cute)!
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41309157&_fp=2
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>>1542765
told by who? they're just as fucking incompetent as western politicians. They don't actually give a fuck about their own laws unless it directly hurts their pockets.
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>>1542889
well at least she's a girl
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>>1542889
(cont.)
At first, I only think maybe it's just a prototype, Shaoji will not let it affect the story structure... but then I've found this thread:
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9135530021
This is the image from the 4th post, containing a blog of that girl (pic rel.), lamenting about missing summer fireworks
Focus on the last paragraph:
>...Missed it
>Maybe someone has a screenshot or screen recording of pupu watching fireworks?
>& The meteor fireworks ending of the piano at the end is really beautiful, in all senses, for a person who likes summer very much

The meteor fireworks ending of the piano at the end is really beautiful, in all senses, for a person who likes summer very much
The meteor fireworks ending of the piano at the end is really beautiful, in all senses, for a person who likes summer very much

>The best way to end.
>Meteor?Fireworks?A bit far-fetched

Meteor? Fireworks?
Meteor? Fireworks?
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>>1542896
(cont.)
Now rewatch the ending of HSR 2.3 again, everyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n4QxywUuNQ
What do you notice?
Yes, it's:
>Fireworks
>Piano
>Meteor (reversely flying, yes I want to emphasis this)
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>>1542875
Nah, some nothingburger whore
But at least this will serve as an example for the all englsh VA retards
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>>1542896
>>1542899
>>1542889
>Shaoji selfinsert as TB(based) and make Firefly as our canon love interest
Shaoji saved HSR with Penaconny huh
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>>1542903
>saved
more like killed, ahahaha
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>>1542904
>killed
You mean Jade slow ass banner and after that is nuChina patch?
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>>1542905
How Firefly killed HSR is as how Scara killed Genshin.
Is Scara 2.3 banner a flop? Of course not!
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>>1542907
>Scara killed genshin
??? I hate that lil shit since 3.2 but the thing killed GI imo is years of homo shill, gayshit like AlhaithemKaveh and Fontaine with Neuv doing everything, top that of with recent NTR event as Traveler aka camera. No STRAIGHT men continue play that game after all that shit throw at them.
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>>1542889
>>1542896
>>1542899
>All her achievements were offscreen
>The plot literally states that she can only escape Penacony by dying, so her 3rd symbolic death in literally the next patch makes no sense.
I refuse to believe this with how badly she was written. You think if you were to insert your gf into the game, you would try to put some effort into the writing.
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>>1542909
Because Scara was the tipping point when the writers let their own preference defying logic. What you listed were the inevitable things that happened after. Trust on the integrity of the game had been lost.
What I want to say with Firefly case is the same, when the writer let his personal preference dominated, then the disaster is inevitable.
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>>1542910
>The plot literally states that she can only escape Penacony by dying, so her 3rd symbolic death in literally the next patch makes no sense.
Btw, they also have found her talking about "three suicide notes"
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9132285227?pn=8 Post 122nd
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>>1542723
>Heartopia
literally who game
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>>1542912
>disaster is inevitable
Again, this shit isn't happen yet and why you put the blame on Firefly and not other characters?
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>>1542916
Christ, they just can't help themselves, huh?
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>>1542918
Because it's a tipping point, when the plot balance went derailed. You're too emotional to accept the truth
The truth... shall set you free... but would you join the Abyss?
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>>1542916
if they are not fucking gay or troon. It is GOATIS. It is a game, not a drama. Fugging over roasted cock with his overdramatic gf.
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Report! Reporting in!
(Shaoji's Weibo) can no longer be found, and the account is suspected to have been cancelled
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41313603
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>>1542928
Love to see it
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Scary...!
>Now that I think about it, the turtle in Honkai Impact 3rd was a bit too miserable. I remember another thing, not long after Fu Hua appeared, Honkai Impact 3rd deleted the bridge interaction, and everyone thought it was because of the tower hitting it, so it was rectified. Now thinking about it carefully, it is very scary.
So the reason touching feature was removed might not be because of censorship, but feminist leadership!
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>>1542917
Looks like some shitty multiplayer lifesim
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>>1542938
include a link to the page next time, we getting into some peak drama. I am thinking whether it is worth to archive this hilarity.
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>>1542933
Here: https://youtu.be/KwXUQoO2Enk?si=ssen7Oy0K0KUiVay&t=11487
Holyshit, the Eng version was even more direct
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>>1542944
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9132769311
Sorry bro, it's just off-topic chatting so I don't think it's quite important to include the link, sorry
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>>1541139
>"Wuthering Waves will beat Gensh-AAAAIEEEE!! DOKKANCHADS ARE TOO STRONG!! I KNEEEL!"
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>>1542946
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>>1542946
cringe overload
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>>1542947
Nah, it is fine. This mihoyo-being-deviants drama is spreading like wild fire and too much shit is happening at once. Stuff should be kept for accuracy and as a point of reference.
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Debate on the impact of recent discovery of "devs OCs". I take a thread from "Have men playing secretly", they are a faction in current gacha wars against Mala, so their bias against mihoyo should be low, even so there are many voices criticize the practice of mihoyo:
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9132917449
For example:
>What's scary is that if the suit theory is true, then the character will really have his own life. The character will act according to the suit's ideas, not according to the plot logic, and the final product is that it is done just for the sake of doing it. The suit person is happy but the story is bad, such as the Dragon King

Indeed, the devs are happy (for example Fat Xiao) but the story is ruined.
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Imagine how insufferable the person they based Elysia on must be because goddamn that character is probably the worst in that game.
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>>1542959
Isn't that already obvious?
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>>1542959
>Fat Xiao as Scaramouche
AHAHAHAHA
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>>1542956
Btw, if you can, archive the ngabbs sources, as nga is a private forum so posts could be deleted frequently
Tieba sources are more reliable, if taken from sub-Tieba that are anti-mihoyo or neutral, as the mods will not deleted them.
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>>1542960
man
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>>1542957
Recently I dropped so many gachas that I have time to watch anime again. To my surprise, even the most mid anime is more soulful than hoyoslops. The dev self-insert thing must be true, because there's no way the story can get this bad.
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>>1542965
I always tell storyfags that defend slop like genshin or arknights to read manga if they want a good story. You can literally throw a dart at a pool of any manga and get a better story, even if it's otome, or yaoi. Gacha's selling point has always been cute girls and (You) pandering. Even FGO is shit compared to the VNs
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>>1542962
ghost archive is taking the tieba sources well, it seems. Problem is they are many.
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>>1542965
I find most of modern anime to be pretty forgettable now imo, nothing has made me fill the void as much as characters in the few gacha that i actually play.
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>>1542968
Yeah, the story is pretty mediocre, but this little shit absolutely drags it down to abysmal levels.
The moment they decided to create paimon it was the very moment the game's story had no future.
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>>1542968
>Gacha's selling point has always been cute girls and (You) pandering.
I dont really see any fundamental difference as someone who watches both cgdct shows and gacha for the character interactions. Both are constantly updated on a daily basis and there's good and bad shit in either one as is the same for everything.
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>>1542928
lemeow
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>>1542928
>>1542975
good make them squirm
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>>1542975
The oyohim employee is immunized against all dangers, one may call him a troon, homo, faggot, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a "self-inserting tranny" and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back, "I've been found out".
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>>1542975
>DFE
Instant sus.
If he is innocent (lol) , why wouldn't he write a statement instead ? Typical tranny behavior.
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>>1542980
>self-inserting tranny
the irony is that they ridicule the idea of player self-inserts
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>[MiHoYo] "Shaji is also seventeen this year" (roasted chicken Weibo) has no user found, and is suspected of being closed
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41313603
>[MiHoYo] Liu Ying is suspected of being the girlfriend of MiHoYo’s top executive who roasts chicken, and the woman is suspected of being LGBT + hating the Chinese Communist Party + on Weibo
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41312848
>[miHoYo] Fu Hua is suspected to be a cover-up man of MiHoYo's senior management, and the executive is suspected to be LGBT+spiritual person+hating the Chinese Communist Party on Weibo
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41281179
>[MiHoYo] Star Dome Railway's suspected Topa leather case Twitter content archive and analysis (collection of related people's posts)
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41295521
>[MiHoYo] completely sides with women. During the player opinion display session in 5.0pv, a player specifically showed up and said, "The boy with the grass attribute is so handsome! I want to smoke it!
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41298663
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>>1542975
>>1542988
>NOOOOOO why are these freaks exposing whats obviously the devs projecting their own mental illness in their games??? Leave these billion dollar companies alone!!!
Serves them right for treating the audience like shit with their self-insert delusions.
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This is why everyone in Natlan is white lmeow
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>>1542991
It's always a troon that ridicule the notion of self-insert in game. Because they're still in the closet about it. If a man always pick woman to play RPG, then that guy is likely to become a tranny.
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>>1542995
>>[MiHoYo] completely sides with women. During the player opinion display session in 5.0pv
And some people are still hopeful for Natlan, ffs
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>>1543000
I always pick girl character but I also enjoy good self-inserter story, for example Xenoblade 2 is a nice boy meets girl story (not to mention Rex he even went harem route).
I don't know why writers in mihoyo can be so petty
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>>1543002
Just be careful to not pick woman or watching CGDCT often. Trans is just like other fetish, that it's developed and not discovered. If you have friend or son that has anti-social tendency or effeminate, don't let him have girly hobbies, consume media for woman, or watch girly/trans anime(CGDCT or gender bender).
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Is this whole mihoyo troonery drama actually a big thing in CN or is it just like the useless boycotts in the western sphere?
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>>1543006
nah, i'm immune to that tranny shit because I already went through that phase when I was kid.
It's fine to like cute girlish things, but it's another matter to think yourself as another identity. You is you, whoever sprout that bullshit "discover trueself", "real me" is influenced by outside world too much. Or maybe they really think themselves as "special ones", and being tranny is a way to differentiate themselves from the others?
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>ITT Tencent shills trying to bury their competition before the release of their very own fanservice game
I'm actually amazed how none of the meidos have banned Chink ESLs and Aetherschizo for doxing accounts yet.
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>>1542896
So the troon was right, every Mihomo character is a self-insert.
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>>1542901
They should just fire all EN VAs, they eat up money while offering nothing. you won't lose players by removing EN voices, I guarantee it.
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>>1543008
considering they're deleting everything it must be moderately big
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>>1542995
Looking good. The last one seems like A decent schizo read. Keep them coming.
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>>1543016
yes, weebs don't care about EN dubs
but they want the normalfags crowds
>>1543017
but, have we ever thought maybe mihoyo themselves are even fanning the flame more, in order to rally the slurpers against anti-mihoyo crowds (reinforcing the mentality of us vs them)
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>>1543016
have you seen the amount of normalfaggots complaining that evangelion collab in Nikke won't have EN dub. I hate EN dub because it attracts normies, and companies know this, they will never get rid of EN dub, it brings in extra normie dollars. If I could ban one thing, it would be english dub, many trannies would get filtered.
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>>1543020
>reinforcing the mentality of us vs them
ahh, yes, the manjuu playbook, its a possibility
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>>1543020
Why they would do that ? When your gacha is no longer a gacha to relax to but a hotbed of controversy and stomach churning rumors. Especially homogames rely heavily on sns for code distribution and news. Normies will get involved eventually.
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>>1543014
>ITT Tencent shills trying to bury their competition before the release of their very own fanservice game
Okay now I'm curious, which gaem are you talking about?
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please fix your English before posting on an English imageboard, Chinky-kun
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>>1543027
Tencent announced their Vtuber Battler arena recently. Go back to sleep goy, this is totally just a coincidence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnM075bWU6c
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hoyoslurpers are afraid of 10Chads
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>>1543029
looks shit, tencent has like 20 games coming out soon, they all look shit and doa, no shills needed
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>>1543029
>no males in sight
already way more attractive than zoozoozoo
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feminists deserve RAPE
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>>1543044
cute.

>>1543045
this. Imagine seething at femcels when it's one struggle™ against the transexual menace. Do Tencentoids really?
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>>1543045
They wish. I wouldn't rape them with a ten feet pole. Who knows that you might catch if you did.
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>>1543045
maybe jeets and muslims have it right
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>miHoMo characters are literally self-inserts of their narcissist developers
I don't know how to feel about this new piece of information. I have never cared for the people who are behind the development, inspiration, or voice of any character in any media before, but knowing this is a gacha game where I put hard-earned rolls or money into rolling for such characters is a completely different story.
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>>1542909
HARD disagree with you. Chinks and Japs are obedient paycucks.
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>>1543050
I only care about the fact the devs forced their self inserts into the stories and ignored everyone else
God forbids I like some non self insert charas and will most likely never get any meaningful event about them
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>>1542946
This is embarrassing. I don't think I can play miHoMo slop ever again.
Hoping for all chinks and japs to catch up to this and ditch this dogshit company for good.
Hopefully Mugen comes out at the right time to pick the players over too and sets good trends in the gacha market instead of letting these narcissist scumbags ruin it.
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>>1543033
>>no males in sight
>already way more attractive than zoozoozoo
Shall it be another helping of a 6 waifu streak, mister?
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We need to start a new culture of shaming chinks and japs if they put their money into slop like this. It's no use just speaking about this when the company still manages to make millions every month from all of their self-inserts in those two regions.
It's a spit on the face of all the customers and audience, but more importantly, this company is known for setting awful trends in the market and complacency to such trends is going to completely ruin it.
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>>1542975
And here come the western subhumans to defend their new pozzed overlords.
You know what, it would be great if miHoMo only made bucks off these fucking weirdos instead of the chinks and japs.
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>>1542991
Yes, this.
You should see all of the online discourse about this. The shills always make sure to ridicule their players for self-inserting as the MC, and shame them for thinking the characters are for (You).
Funny how their own overlords are pros at self-inserting.
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>we
there's no we, faggot
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>>1543050
the issue is:
>lack of creativity
putting your (devs) shitty life story no one cares about in the game is just cringe and narcisistic, zero creative flow, low effort in coming up with something unique or interesting as a story
>sacrifice of story continuity for their narcisistic purpose
they killed Signora for no reason, but wormderer gets a free pass because he's a self-insert, he gets to live on and ship your waifus, though he should have been killed too
>ridiculuing/depriving the playerbase of (You) as the self-insert
devs call you an incel for wanting to self-insert, but they won't let you, because it's THEIR story, not yours (kills immersion), despite you spending hundreds of dollars on Nilou or whatever girl/guy you want
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>worm
sure smells like giggerschizos here
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>>1542995
Keep all of this archived.
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>>1542975
ngl this meme where doxing (or "doxxing" whatever that's supposed to mean) is equivalent to browsing someone's publically available social media is pretty amusing
like if you don't want others to know about your private life maybe don't post about it openly? lmao
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tieba has been a place full of hate speech towards mihoyo since 7 years ago. I don’t really believe what they say about mihoyo.
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>>1543070
So, it's just a 4chan equivalent of polfags crying about da jooz and doing nothing about it besides rooting for da jooz best shabbos goy?
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>>1543070
us fillial sons must protect mihoyo
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>>1543071
its just Chinkoids trying to get the bidding of one conglomerate to destroy their competitor. The best play is to observe them fight each other and enjoy the show.
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tieba autists force dawei and his goons to kneel
they are based in my book
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Imagine how shallow and worthless your life must be to even play hoyoslop in the first place. There's so much out there for you to play and actually enjoy, but you choose to pick the shit on the ground and eat it with a shit-eating grin instead.
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>>1543071
Not the greatest example when it in fact always is da jooz so....
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10cent shills are waking up
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>>1543073
speaking Latin on 4chan can show how narcissistic you are...
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Holy shit bros, this dev self-insert thing unironically explains EVERYTHING

>Expies
The same dev put their OC in every games they worked on
>Why does every character need to have their own life
The character's life is based on the dev's real story
>Shipshit
Devs shipping themselves with their waifu/husbando/co-worker
>Hates (You) pandering
The players' self-insert is not their waifu/husbando
>Excessive wanking
"My OC is stronger and more popular than your OC"
>Sidelines the MC
Their OC is the MC from their perspective
>Touch feature removed
They don't want to get molested
>Why did they stop using expies after Inazuma
>Why did the story direction completely changed from Sumeru
New devs took over from the old devs
>Why is Natlan white
Devs are pale
>Firefly favoritism
Literally Shaoji's gf
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its so funny that the drama happened because women need to share everything on the internet
shaoji could just have published a statement to shut them up but he just deleted his account instead
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>>1543084
>Why is Natlan white
bruh, no one wants to play as a shitskin, that's pretty universal
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>>1543087
btw, Satoshi in pokemon anime is main character because president of Game Freak is SATOSHI Tajiri
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>>1543085
Publishing a statement won't stop people from scraping through his account for random shit and escalating things.
If chink schizos are bored/crazy enough to dig through every account affiliated with Mihoyo to find self-inserts, there definitely would be one trying to dig through everything on his account to start shit with.
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>>1543084
and, Satoshi in pokemon anime has a rival named SHIGERU because general manager of Nintendo named Miyamoto SHIGERU
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So tencent and pokemon will be the reflection of choice this time lmao
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>>1543084
Some more

>Why is the meta power so inconsistent (Dehya, Neuvillette...)
Reflects their real life counterpart's position in the company hierarchy
>why is some character so ugly
>moles in weird places
>random lgbt flag dogwhistle
similar to their real life counterpart
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>>1543079
Gimme one for comparison
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HAPPY 10TH ANNIVERSARY T7S!

Towards the 11th.
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miHoMo has already deployed shills to damage control, I see
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>>1543082
Filial is an English word.

>>1543084
Reminded me of what happened to sdorica, they even killed the previous mc.
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>>1543092
>>1543096
It's not a good comparison, Pokemon anime has almost no plot and is just the adventures of a guy who wants to make his dream come true. Satoshi probably has something of his creator in his personality but it's nothing compared to this Mihoyo stuff. Video games are another thing since the protagonists and rivals change from game to game.

The most absurd thing about everything that's coming out is that if they kept quiet no one would have ever noticed, instead these idiots wrote on social media and people caught them
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>>1543129
What else do you expect from miHoMo retards who literally don't watch or play anything but miHoMo self-insert ship-cringefest slop?
trAsh regularly gets humiliated in the trAshnime, no way the creator of the series has approved this. Only the names might be similar as a homage to the creator.
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>>1543095
Still better than DFE, it is possibly the worst action when you got framed. It is like bolting away from cops when you both see each other.
With how this ends up, mihoyo will probably facing a MrBeast situation.
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>>1543126
as i know not very likely
they always respond in the worst way to most negative opinion, or usually keep silent
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>>1543025
Because mihoyo depended on slurpers to whale in the games. But what is the motivation for whaling? The belief mihoyo is really "good".
Recently, revenue of all mihoyo games are falling, because of the loss of trust in mihoyo (Honkai Part 2, HSR Penacony story, Genshin Floptaine, ZZZ mediocre launch, etc.)
So this may be a move to create controversy, so the remaining slurpers will believe more in mihoyo, and whale to "protect their father mihoyo". Of course as you said, it can backfire, but maybe mihoyo evaluate that all their current games are now at end of life (not expanding the market to normies anymore), they think their next game (AC clone) will aim at normies market.
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>>1543144
Hehe, oyohim shills army in CN are numerous, the chinks weren't joking about Zhihu as "Mihu" and Bilibili as "Mi Station" at all.
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>>1543129
yes you right
im just guessing why they did it, and showing off my experience.
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>>1543146
really? in Zhihu genshin only got 5.8/10, not quite good
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>>1543144
For example, this is how shills in Bilibili are defending Fu Hua:
https://bilibili.com/video/BV1nWp9eiE5Y
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>>1543150
It's not the score, but similar to Quora, Zhihu is dominated by content creators (people who answering questions, discussions). The amount of content creators, who are oyohim shills, are very high, hence the nickname "Mihu". For example, when oyohim still paid NGA mods two years ago, NGA was also called "MiGA"
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>>1543152
that IS worst way.
long article without focus, no readability, and not good to repost
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>>1543153
why dont they get a nice score first? compared with long articles, numbers are more easy to see
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>>1543155
Because it's shills posting, they find everyway to defend this mess, how could their words not turn out to be a mess.
Meanwhile, look at the comment of anti-mihoyo crowds >>1542957 >>1542938
It's short, on the point, and logical.
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>>1543156
they are always so clumsy at this, same as I said, just like a nerd
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>>1543156
Score needed a lot of people/bots, but content creators can be bought in much small number and from the remarks at Tieba, they said that Zhihu shills fee is quite cheap. Meanwhile, Tieba is always a hot bed of anti-oyohim movement because comments are hardest to control and delete at Tieba, see this incident: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bvl2DCBEXI Kurumi-chan explained quite clearly the fact that even moderators of a sub-Tieba cannot deleted a hot Post
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>manga artist reposted pro-lgbt shit
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41317930&rand=816
>pulling out desperation money makers THIS early
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41316562
https://space.bilibili.com/9922322/dynamic
excuse me.
AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
not only are those trannies limbus troons, even their devs are trannies too. hahahahaha, what a fucking clownshow they are. their shit is clearly going bankrupt if they need to pull out their big girls so quickly. but let me tell you this, they're probably going to get turned into yuri ships or cuck all the remaining players, all the girls in 2 do this. from what i gather apparently the 416 girl is going to get shipped with some repairman. all i can say is I fucking HOPE. i just want to see those faggots despair when cn is proven right, without even the littlest amount of doubt. i want to see those waifufags cry when they realize their shit game is actually cuckshit. while they're ahead, they should quit making these threads, they're going to get humiliated and hurt in the very near future.
CN was right the whole time, their trannylator was just good damage control
insider here even said 416 was cuckshit
https://files.catbox.moe/3z11tx.jpeg
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>>1543162
Yuzhong bro, sell your villas, it's hard to save a dead game. KEK
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>>1543157
yes, much more professional than that long article, easy to repost
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>>1543162
mental wellness
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watch out
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im hanabi today
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so funny yaeyaeyaeya
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I just hope that all of this hurts a little bit the Natlan reception in CN, which is what matters anyway.
That Natlan continues the trend of getting lower revenue that has been since Sumeru.
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>>1543182
Nah, the remaining Genshin crowds morale are already at the bottom, this drama won't affect them but only the actual quality of 5.x will.
On the other hand, HSR is the one hardest hit by this, because HSR is really based the support of "idols-worshiping" crowds that quitted Genshin to play HSR.
This drama is no different from a scandal in idols industry
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mihoyo almost died in cn in 2019, specially in tieba
will we finally see it go broke after 5 years?
what a ELATION show today imao
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Report! Reporting in!
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41315652
Miba, the Bilibili streamer who dug out the information about Fu Hua, had been visited and questioned by the police. He said that the next stream will be in September and maybe on another platform (not Bilibili).
People are still discuss whether the government will step in or not. (trivia, Iron Fist, or Tower, are the slangs in CN for the government)
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>>1543182
CORRECT
in cn tiktok, anyone who dares to praise genshin will be heavily attacked, even if they simply remain neutral
my chinese roommate just told me that a little girl was attacked with 300+ comments for praising natlan music lol
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>>1543192
kek, I still remember last year the reputation of genshin on tiktok was pretty good, but alas, after that 3-fates fiasco during CNY, everything is totally ruined...
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>>1543191
privacy leaked, haha
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>>1543193
btw, in cn tiktok, wuwa is considered to have completely surpassed genshinin all, quite interesting
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>>1543195
Hmm, there is a pattern here, all platforms that are pro-Wuwa (CN tiktok, Korea, Western youtube) are all have the same common thing:
Heavily disillusioned with Genshin (Tiktok: 3 Fates incident, Korea: Feminist yomi incident, West: "no endgame, anxiety", Dehya incident
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>>1543162
keep up the good fight anon, I want to see this shitty gacha industry collapse.
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>>1543198
>>1543198
certainty
wuwa was born for anti genshin, even Kuro so
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>>1543198
whats 3 Fates incident
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>>1543202
https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1ageaas/breaking_down_the_3_intertwined_fates_incident/
Source is pro-mihoyo (redditslupers, of course) so take it with a grain of salt.
Basically, after letting leakers hyping about the CNY patch 4.4, mihoyo only gave players "3 Intertwined Fates for years of companionship", players everywhere broke into anger. CN Douyin (TikTok) was the hardest hit aera, as mihoyo couldn't control the situation there (maybe the fees to hire shills in douyin were high), and Genshin lost millions of followers on TikTok
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>>1543202
its a stupid event. genshin officially stated that we will have free 1600 gems in the new year, in order to celebrate, they will give away 3 Fates. Some people only saw the second half of the sentence and were angry that there were only 3 Fates in the new year.

btw, i think even add 1600 gems, it is still too little as a new year gift
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>>1543207
Nah, the key of this situation is their exact wordings "3 Intertwined Fates for years of companionship"
This is a key point, but westerners we don't feel it. For the chinks, companionship is a thing to treasure, but that words of mihoyo is nothing but pure coldness to CN players. It's a cultural difference
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>>1543207
hahahahah, a cp of stupid, mihoyo and player in tiktok
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>>1541139
How is this sales data calculated? I find it hard to believe all the top spots are dominated by Hoyo because there are some games on Sensor Tower that have better revenue than Hoyo games in China. Unless this is adding revenue from all regions and all platforms for the Hoyo games while ignoring the other regions/platforms for everything else.
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>>1543014
As much as I hate Tencent, their only crime are being greedy as fuck and maybe spyware anti-cheat. Mihoyo on the other hand do the same thing as Tencent AND all the other shit being mentioned in this thread.
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>>1543211
it ignored Tencent games of course, they're not gacha games
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>>1543211
The guy behind this only includes games they think should be there.
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>>1543211
It's a selective list, it was never meant to display every mobile app. That's why some people call it the shitpost list, since it's only purpose is shit stirring.
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>>1543213
So, it ignores ALL other games that do not have gacha banners, even if they have microtransactions?
What does it say about Hoyo? There are other companies that are less scummy than Hoyo, but they are automatically villainized because tEnCeNt bAd?
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>>1543216
>There are other companies that are less scummy than Hoyo, but they are automatically villainized because tEnCeNt bAd?
Where? for example? I don't see anyone be villainized other than the usual trios Tencent, NetEase, MiHoYo
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>>1543209
what a bunch of nerds, haha mihoyo
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>>1543211
It's made up by someone that just tracks whatever he feels like + he just takes whatever the iOS monthly revenue is and multiplies it by 1.75 because "reasons".
That's your totally trustworthy sensortower data, bro.
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>>1543214
>>1543215
>>1543219
Yes, I figured. Pretty pathetic.
My entire view about this topic has changed after looking at the CN grossing chart.
There are so many games there that are doing much better than Hoyo games, and not a single Hoyo game is in the top 10 spot. But all you ever see is wanking off one company because of rabid fanboyism. Embarrassing. Reminds me of a certain company that has bootlickers always swarming around the shit in the center and viciously attacking everyone who dares criticize the shit.
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>>1543216
ah, I understand your question now, it's not because Tencent is bad, but that list comes from /r/gachagaming, those fuckers don't play games such as Honor of Kings or PUBG, so of course they wouldn't included them in the list. SensorTower still keep track on all mobile games.
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>>1543217
Really? This must be your first day on this site then.
If anyone ever brings up Tencent in any gacha discussion space, it is immediately badmouthed as if they are somehow scummier than Hoyo games, where you have to roll 7 character copies and 5 weapon copies to complete ONE character.
Is Tencent monetization worse than this?
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>>1543218
Yes, nerds and totally autistic with superiority complex. For example, Cai Haoyu always said "love the game then play, if don't then quit" but at least back then he still had the ability to create games. The current genshin devs are so incompetent, but they still imitate the arrogance of Cai Haoyu.
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>>1543222
Of course I knew, but I must cite their "logic" to excluded Tencent games, they can act irrational, but we cannot.
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>>1543129
>The most absurd thing about everything that's coming out is that if they kept quiet no one would have ever noticed, instead these idiots wrote on social media and people caught them
kek the same thing happened with traitor feminist within snowbreak dev. These fuckers really can't keep their mouth shut.
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>>1543227
whats this about?
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>>1543070
Maybe you have a point? So far, tieba has only one voice for Genshin, and that is hatred. For a long time, praising Genshin there will result in abusive comments .The remarks of a place with only one voice may not have reference value, at least not much.
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>>1543230
>Ignore the golden days of Genshin Impact Tieba and Genshin Impact Leakers Tieba back in 2020-2022
Remember, Genshin Impact Leakers Tieba only turning into anti-genshin after 3.6, and fully Mala after Azur Promila PV (April 2024).
Before, if anyone dared to criticize Genshin (the cultural export symbols of China) in Genshin Tieba, people would considered it as troll
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>>1543228
Someone stole and eat the celebration cake for in-game character then proceed to gloat about it on socmed. She then get fired after being found out. This happen after seaslug pivoted to (you) pandering route.
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>>1543231
tieba created the dirty word yuanpi(原批)which can translate to GenPussy to abuse Chinese Genshin players in long time, more early than 3.6
btw, "the cultural export symbols of China" often as irony
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>>1543234
You think a heavy lurker like me don't know the word OP!? Don't teach me, hmph.
Of course people outside your fandom will attack you, but letting your own fans turn into anti-fans is another matter.
I only said it simply, have people considered that why there so many platforms initially was pro-Mihoyo (Tieba was original the main platform of mihoyo during the days of Honkai Gakuen, Dawei bro also was actively posting there) but now turned into anti-Mihoyo? Tieba, NGA, TikTok and even Miyoushe!?
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>>1543238
in addition, bilibili and zhihu also can find so many professional anti mihoyo account
EVERY cn social media are ALL anti mihoyo now
its hard to find any positive comments about genshin. a small number of positive comments will be attacked by a large number of comments. There is a strong air that mihoyo will go BROKE now.
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>>1543238
>>1543250
well, im just a little tired of these comments, maybe you're right
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>>1543238
so will wuwa take genshin's legacy and gain a lot of income in the near future?
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Azur Lane suspected of never being censored by chink government, instead Manjuu self-censored then tried to pin the blame on the government.
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>>1543255
No, Wuwa took in a lot of anti-mihoyo crowds, but that crowds, after passing through the "bastism of Abyss" (blackening, turning into anti-Mihoyo, never trust in game company again), it's very hard to milk them (1.2 Zhezhi banner is an example)
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>>1543256
AHHAHAHA, another self-censorship case, alas
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wait, what about Tower of Fantasy? I remember that tof was the earliest genshin Impact killer?
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>>1543261
ToF lost all relevance, though it still survives because they completely slashed marketing budget to 0 and the devs now only make female characters despite hating male players.
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>>1543261
That's another matter, because Perfect Hotta is not really a "2D games devs", so their games cannot get a strong foothold on Anime Gacha market, which is the stronghold of Shanghai cartel
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>>1543266
>female characters
their female characters is only normal fanservice as usual in normal Chinese games such as Honor of Kings or other MMOs, they won't be an opponent of mihoyo and that is a good thing for them at the moment.
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The dev self-insert thing actually makes a lot of sense. Generally when I played hoyoslop it always felt like I wasn’t the MC even though I was. It also explains the atrocious amount of wank some characters get, like Kazuha.
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2D games with story telling shall disappear, next is pvp age
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>>1543273
Kazuha prototype was already known before, it was Lao Yao, an old Genshin writer and also Shaoji's friend.
Btw, rumor said that Lao Yao back then even wrote a fanfic that Scara repenting by returning to Inazuma in woman clothing, serving as prostitute and coincidently meeting Kazuha, kek
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>>1543276
HAHAHAHAH, let's get ready to kill each other
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>>1543276
nah, next is the Age of Tencent "Virtual Circle"! Let us control the "real people" and fight each other!
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>>1543277
wtf...you've piqued my curiosity, where can I find it?
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>>1543191
If they go through the government that's a real scorched earth approach. Pretty sure you can't be a tranny pandering faggot to the chinese governments face. They're playing chicken with the CPP at this point.
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>>1543256
>if you dont, we will
>THEY SELF-CENSOR LOLOLOLOL
yeah
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>>1543273
>>1543277
This only makes stronger my assumptions that Signora was based on an employee that was fired.
Or maybe, she wasn't based at all on anyone.
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>>1543287
Precedent is already there.
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>>1543191
Wait does that mean the chink government now knows Mihomo is harboring anti-China LGBT people in the company? Don`t know why he would be questioned yet.
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>>1543273
It also explains why they force some characters together. Think Eula and Amber. Early on you could not have Eula without Amber. I liked Eula and it always felt like they were ruining her character by forcing her to play second fiddle to Amber constantly. Now it just makes me think Amber is a self-insert and Eula was related to IRL Amber some how.
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>>1543297
Collei should also be a self-insertion by a junior employee who admires Amber lol
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>>1543178
is this a cpop I heard?
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>>1543280
NGA, Genshin subforum, Licha subsection https://bbs.nga.cn/thread.php?fid=758&ff=650 (but it required an account to view, you can create it easily as they only require any cellphone number to register, no need to have a CN number)
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41189979&_fp=7
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41204610&_fp=7
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41187758&_fp=6
But damn I cannot find the juicy post about Lao Yao fanfic at all, I regret not saving it so much! (Licha subsection has a special feature of automatically deleting thread after 15 days, that's why it's a great source of rumors)
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>>1543282
>>1543295
Nah, it's the streamer (Miba, who "doxxed" Fu Hua) was questioned by the police.
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>>1543287
This employee used to be an innocent girl, but became arrogant and arrogant after being hurt? Such people are indeed easily fired LOL
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>>1543303
there is no doubt that it is illegal to expose other people's privacy and attack them
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>>1543302
Hmm, a bit troublesome, but thx bro. I will try to register it later.
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>>1543307
Let the police decided, it's not our jobs, either way the anti-mihoyo crowds win.
If Miba was fined then he will be martyrized as an anti-mihoyo hero, if he wasn't then they will said "see, it's totally lawful thing", kek
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>>1541686
I played a little of Genshin Impact when it launched and determined it to be the gacha game for people who have never played a gacha game.
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>>1543310
Hope CCP starts cracking down on Mihoyo.
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>>1543312
Will soon, after Paris Olympics, CCP is now very angry against deviant LGBT movement
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>>1543211
>I find it hard to believe all the top spots are dominated by Hoyo
All top spots are Tencent and Netease games but they aren't gacha.
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>>1543310
sounds reasonable, but still a bit strange...maybe because that nerdy feeling mihoyo show always?
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>>1543314
>after Paris Olympics, CCP is now very angry against deviant LGBT movement
What happened?
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>>1543317
Bro... how could you miss that circus. CCP after seeing that clown world is now very vigilant against "too extreme" LGBT trend
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How can it be "doxxing" when people upload their personal info on the Internet by themselves?
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>>1543312
>>1543314
I feel like that was always a question of time, even russia if im not mistaken already started going after those faggots and label them as extremist. LGBT tranny shit is basicly western propaganda, there is 0 way CCP would be okay with that shit that is used to control the masses.
>>1543320
Its not doxxing if it is on social media. Those devs are just fucking retarded to keep talking and exposing themselves on the internet, no surprises a lot of them are women, since they can never shut their mouth.
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>>1543321
its funny how mihoyo doesnt even have any policy that prevents their employees to not share work related stuffs in public
no wonder every single games of theirs is having leaking problem
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>mihoyodrone normalfags are wholly against self-inserting
>turns out said normalfags have been funding self-inserters the entire time
based mihoyo for making normalfags paypig their stuff, but holy shit playing their games really is a humiliation ritual for everyone now, especially people who pay.
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>>1543321
maybe its because they have a strong desire to express themselves that they can become writers
such writers exist widely around the world, but since they are not from mihoyo, there is no need to worry
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>>1543322
the management are all nerds hahahahaha
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>>1543322
>>1543327
It's just women and trannies that can't help themselves and always want to be on the spotlight and can never shut their mouth. We see that shit every time in the west on twitter.
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>>1543326
Yeah, I am no longer going to buy the monthly premium currency pass going forward. I feel ashamed for supporting this company.
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>>1543322
controlling all employees’ social accounts is too unrealistic for mihoyo, nerds only know hot to developing or programming etc.
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This self-insert thing seems to have been a big blow to Mihoyo. Even the pro-Mihoyo places are talking about it.
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>>1543326
You know full well they're going to like self inserts when it's trannies and women doing it.
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>>1543337
And the biggest karma hit for all those faggots against self inserting in general that used to shit on those type of players. Now they will have to justify playing a game where every character is a DEV self insert instead, some that are even a tranny self insert LMAO
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>>1543029
According to comments, this is the information collected so far:
1. Internal testing will be conducted at the end of this year, and testing will begin in 2025: vtubers will be allowed to test first, and then players will be allowed to test. It is expected to be officially launched at the end of 2025. It is a game available for both mobile phones and PCs.
2. Whether it is a corporate or personal vtuber, you can go to the official website to apply to become a game character. In addition, if the game makes money, the corresponding vtuber will also have income.
3. The overall game mode is not common in the current two-dimensional game market, and PVE is the main one.
4. The vtuber is not the protagonist, the protagonist is the player, and the protagonist is the team leader.
5. It is not clear whether the game has love content, but there is content about living with vtubers.
6. The game character has little to do with whether the vtuber has 3D.
7. It is possible to join the vtuber who has "graduated".
8. The vtuber who has "graduated" will have corresponding arrangements.
9. There will be no male vtubers, and the producer said that he does not accept the setting of beating women.
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>Kafka
>Ayaka
>Shenhe
>Theresa
>Fallen Rosemary
So who are these? We know Firefly is just Shaoji's girlfriend, they are the only others from homoverse than can be conisdered "for (you)".
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>>1543341
>love content
You'd have to be an actual retard to want this with vtubers.
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there needs to be a comprehensive list of all mihomo characters and which scumbag narcissist they are based on
let's first start with hi3
even the males like kevin and su
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>>1543342
considering shenhe has almost 0 screentime I doubt she's someone's self insert
I'd like to know about itto tho since that fucker has more appearance than fucking archon
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>>1543343
Why? I'd like to see some dating sim stuff a unhinged one like Pippa.
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>>1543345
she had significance and screentime during her release
the MC (aka, main camera) was sidelined and humiliated while this bossqveen showed the chuds how it's done!
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>>1543342
Like the other anon said Kafka and Shenhe get negative screen time, so are most likely either OCs or just based of someone the writer knows. All I remember about Ayaka is that Da Wei was the one who recorded the wet socks dance.
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>>1543345
Maybe someone at mihoyo fucking loves his seiyuu Takanori Nishikawa, since he's a legendary japanese singer.
So maybe not self-insert. Just some higher up that loves the singer, idk.
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>>1543320
It isn't. They're just faggots running scared from the fact that their own words fucked them over. Narcissist homos are retarded, news at 11.
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>>1543345
Pretty sure Itto was written based on his VA.
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>>1543342
>>1543344
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>>1543354
>a bunch of homos self insert as a woman
People don't joke when they call this company a tranny company KEK
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>>1543356
I really wonder how does the KR fanbase react with this current drama lmao
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>>1543345
Itto is used a lot because he is easy to move from one place to another without problems given that he is generally a sort of unemployed or boastful handyman, most of the other characters have a job or in the case of Sumeru are students and probably Hoyo thinks it is funny to have him around every other update.
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so right!!! this is the reason why I come to 4chan. I just come for shitting, some posts are too good, Please give me more shit ! ! ! ! !
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>>1543366
stupid, but i like you, lets shtting
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>>1543359
They hate gayshit and mihomo as a whole ever since the Furina feminist dev, where they send this to protest
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seems like mihoyo finally told their employees to disable their social accounts
I wonder who could this be
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>>1543384
I don't think this will change anything honestly. Their fanbase will just find some way to spin it and continue on.
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>>1543384
>Mihomo slurpers be like: "It's a nothingburger made by chink incels"
>Actual Mihomo be like: "SHUT IT DOWN, SHUT EVERYTHING DOWN NOW!!"
KEK
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>>1543397
>Gayshit writer is a actual Tranny that supports Sweet Baby inc
I'm not surprised at all
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>>1543398
this
mihomo is the nintendo of gacha
their brainless fans will slurp it all even if they are abused and treated like dirt
just look at the money all the three big games make even after 4 years of this bullshit
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>>1543397
Hope chinks dig up more stuff to get the CCP to investigate Mihoyo.
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>>1543408
here's the writer
John Shen also works on ZZZ, I'm surprised they havent started pushing more homo banners yet
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>>1543413
why would they investigate their own?
mistah da wei is honorary member of ccp
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>>1543413
The way things are going i would not be surprised if that end up happening.
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>>1543417
>Sisi
>that face
>verge, vice, polygon and kotaku
CAN'T MAKE THIS UP LMAO
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>>1543419
That doesn't mean anything, every company in China is part of the CCP and need to respond to them, its a mandatory thing to everyone. And if they are getting western politics influence, that actually starts becoming a problem to the CCP, being a big company wont save them from the government if that's the case
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>>1543428
this is correct
even Jack Ma from alibaba, who is a CCP member, disappeared from the public for a long time after some of his "questionable" acts
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>>1543397
>wow look at all this SUBTLE stuff we have to put in
>we can totally have homosexual relationships in our game
Yet they make nothing official. Why do they continue writing this stuff in roundabout ways if it is perfectly fine to have?
Any game or show that actively takes the mask off and stops pretending either starts bleeding out or fails, just look at any releases and you'll see I am right. This shit is just parasites leaching off people who generally don't care enough to read into the context of things so they miss the references.
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>>1543428
CCP ain't going to do shit. miHoYo have already been reported several times about them "excusing Japanese war crimes" and nothing happened.
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>>1543435
>>1543431
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The "cultural export" of the CCP is just filled with westerner bullshit, how fucking embarrassing. LMAO
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>>1543397
>>1543417
OOF
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>>1543435
streamer who reported the Fu Hua stuff got raided by police and said the Fu Hua thing became a big deal. Could just be a nothingburguer but there's an actual chance CCP is going to investigate Mihoyo.
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>>1543443
Why would the police raid him though?
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>>1543443
I don't think that's the solution. The real solution should be people not giving money to these fuckers, that's why I hope it goes viral there. The CCP isn't gonna do shit and I don't want them to anyway.
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>>1543444
I'm guessing to ask for more information he might have.
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>>1543397
>>1543417
>the average tranny that you find on twitter
lmao
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>>1543445
People aren't going to stop paying because the majority of people don't care. That's why these users always hope on some intervention from the CCP. They know they are the minority, and that's why they cry for the big government to come save them.
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>>1543445
yeah, that's never happening
chinks and japs are brainless cattle
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Now I'm really excited for Natlan but because I want to see whatever shitshow they planned for it.
Will it be worse than Fontaine? That's what I want to see.
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>>1543451
lol this too
let's be honest, most conzoomer dont even give a crap about outrage, especially silly ones like these that they dont relate to
the latest asscoon game with the nigger killing japs in japland is topping the amazon charts in japland
embarrassing doesnt even begin to describe it
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>>1543453
I believe it'll at least affect CN revenue. Total income has been going down for a while anyway.
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>>1543455
For sure it will, 1 patch before the new region they couldn't help themselves and made a cuck summer event
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>>1543455
i am frankly more excited for the "going back to their roots" part
if this is true, we might start seeing fanservice like before, with swimsuits, summer-themed events, and maybe they will also start being more generous
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>>1543456
>the latest asscoon game with the nigger killing japs in japland is topping the amazon charts in japland
false
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>>1543459
>seeing fanservice like before
Stop the cope, shit like the touch system is never coming back when shit like >>1543417 >>1543397 is writing for the game.
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>>1543457
already did lol
>>1542293
>>1542296
>>1542301
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>>1543458
>buy premium skin for the premium character who you thought was your waifu
>get cucked brutally in the same patch
chinks and japs should be ridiculed and bullied mercilessly simply because they are such massive cucks who pathetically accept being mindraped into submission
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>the mihomo slurper is already here coping and pretending is a nothingburger again when this is the troon writing the story >>1543417
KEK
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>>1543467
>everyone is le boogeyman living in my head
kek what a bitch
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>>1543467
They had Paimon say "You're from the desert? Quick, fetch a guard, they must be here to commit a crime!" a couple of patches ago and nobody ingame called her out on it, so they can't be having that much impact on the writing.
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>>1543469
She writes the character relationships
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>>1543468
>just outed himself as the mihomo sluper when i didn't even mentioned him directly
It's that fucking easy
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>>1543473
>muh boogeyman
kek what a bitch
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>>1543474
>Still keeps proving he is here to suck Mihomo tranny cock again
Oh man it's so fucking easy to unmask faggots like you KEK
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>>1543475
>le boogeyman
kek what a bitch
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>mihomo tranny gets mindbroken by my comment
>he needs to keep repeating the same shit
>the Mihomo defense force stops because he is now busy with me
It's that fucking easy boys
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>esl turdskin cannot stop thinking about the boogeyman who mindraped him
kek what a bitch
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I'd say it's common in both China and the west that the f2p is defending the company.
Heavy spenders were selling accounts like it was their last chance.
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>Mihomo tranny keeps repeating the same shit over and over again like a broken record
LMAO
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>>1543491
I saw a picture of whales mass selling their account on a chink site, i wish i had saved that pic
>>1543498
Natlan is just as doomed as floptaine
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>still crying about boogeyman
kek what a bitch
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Now I'm not sure if any conspiracy theories are bullshit anymore...
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>>1543397
It's not entirely wrong (but it is wrong).

There's a small vocal minority screaming about LGBT being shit.
There's a larger, quieter majority finding everything less appealing over time as male heterosexual content is ripped out of all games in favour of basically all other sexualities.
A small subsection of people that cares not one jot about any of this
And finally there's the tiny vocal minority that screams about how diversity and LGBT stuff needs to be in everything.

The latter being where all the fucking journalists live who complain about people not buying games that were only ever advertised as being woke and entirely forgot to make a good game with it and advertise that.
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>still mindbroken by people dabbing on hoyocucks
Mihomo tranny lost...
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>>1543512
Epstein island used to be a conspiracy theory and look what happened.
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>>1543491
Yeah it's easy to defend something you have no stake in. Probably could've sold my day 2 Pokemon GO account for a bundle shortly before "that" update hit but I decided not to. In the end the game still has no competition for a GPS game so I'm still playing it but no longer putting any money into it.
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>>1543512
too many proofs out there AND mihoyo employees start locking their accounts after being exposed
they could sue for defamation but they didnt
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>>1543512
Many of them have at least a kernel of truth. A not insignificant amount of them turn out to be true outright.
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>>1543521
Can confirm. Unfortunately couldn't sell my accounts, guess my HI3 Asuka will be forever abandoned.
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this is going to get a new thread like last time or going to just wait out?
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RIP
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>>1543545
on a second thought im glad she wasnt emilie cause boy that some fucking dogshit kit she would have had
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>>1543537
Just use this one. No need to spam the catalog.
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>>1543537
It would be better to wait until it reaches page 10 and then create a new one, those who are interested know how to search for it.
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>>1543556
alright, thanks
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>>1543546
Probably would've had a different kit
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Finally a great article from NGA! Very high quality in theoretical aspect
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41317739
I will try to edit the MTL version as much as I can, but as MTL is not reliable there might be some errors
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"Eryou" (TL note: 2D games, CN term for gacha games) must be destroyed. (Long article)

Wall of text warning. Conclusion first:
1. "2D games" are not worthy of being called games. They are essentially just brothels opened in casinos with a video game sign hung at the door.
2. Gacha/Gachapon are poison to the industry. If they are allowed to spread, real games will eventually be squeezed out and even become increasingly obsolete.
3. If the gambling practice of manufacturers/industry is not overturned, video games will never be good. Not only the gameplay, but they can't even make the sex content of the game good. Let me clarify my position again: I have no problem with sex content. I mentioned it when I first participated in the discussion on Sohu. It is instinctive and can even be described as "natural". There is nothing to be embarrassed about.
Being a slut is not crime, but (pretending to be) a saint is!

However, I have a big problem with "gambling". Gambling and gameplay are almost mortal enemies. If it develops to a certain extent, even the sex contents will be affected. It must be completely eradicated! (In addition, in my personal concept system, "gambling" refers to the need to spend money to buy chips, games such as RogueLike do not count. All the following definitions are based on this.)
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>>1543603
gacha games won't spread because they are already dying. they are expensive and yet the companies that make these games treat their players like garbage and try to domesticate them like dogs.
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>>1543603
why the fuck are Chinks 10 years late with regards to everything? This is like I'm reading /v/ on 2013. They just realized how cancerous live-service games are
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>>1543603
(cont.)
The Origin of “2D Games”

The earliest 2D games, when there was no specific definition, were literally defined as 2D games.
The broad definition of [2D] is ACGN, and the term 2D games has no meaning. Therefore, "2D games" can only follow the narrow definition of [2D], that is, games with anime style.

With the firing of the cannon of the evil SE, the gashapon games that have plagued the global industry so far have made a great debut. In other parts of the world, it is called gashapon games, and the crusade of European and American players (Japanese turtle SB, TL note: Nip cucks dumb as fuck) against this casino-style money-making method has not ended yet, and the controversy has always been great...

Gambling already accounts for a high proportion of mass entertainment in Japan.
Physical versions of Gachapon and card drawing have a long history in Japan, and there are pinball halls on the streets of Japan. People who know, know that they are actually gambling-related business places.
Therefore, in this natural gambling-friendly environment, sinkhole Gacha games was born and gained a firm foothold.


(And the mainstream of Europe and the United States has never been sold on the so-called "2D games". To this day, this type of game is still classified as Gacha Game on Reddit...)

With the introduction of domestic manufacturers, the gashapon model has reached its peak in the hands of Doxxing Factory (nickname of Mihoyo). But the name of gashapon game is not nice. At first glance, it looks like a gambling game. In addition, those anime mobile games are born with the characteristics of selling soft pornography, that is, porn + gambling.
This is not conducive to PR... How can we perform fan circle marketing...
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>>1543604
let hope so
>>1543610
that's the fault of being "opening up market economy" later than everyone in East Asia...
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>>1543612
(cont.)
What should we do? At this time, we have to find a substitute and invent a concept to cover up the essence of this type of game. The word "2D mobile game" suffered. The sky-high profits of [gambling kiln], which are higher than the rate of return of many industry monopolies, made all manufacturers jealous and entered the market one after another. At the same time, all manufacturers also spontaneously followed up to jointly create this holy chapel (original words: memorial archway) called "2D mobile game".
With overwhelming publicity and promotion, the word "2D mobile game" became more and more well-known. The next step is to slowly distort its definition and make it a fig leaf/bitch memorial archway for [gambling kiln].
What followed was a series of "expelling from 2D games" campaigns, such as Naruto, Pest Control (nickname of Honor of Kings?), and DNF. As they were excluded from the "2D games" group in the audience's cognition, their "2D games reshape into a holy chapel" campaign has in fact been completed.

So 2D games have become extremely distorted. When it comes to defining the two-dimension, when it comes to core content, when it comes to plots, it's all bullshit, when it comes to gameplay, it's all copied (and even copied into a crippled version), and when it comes to all weird existences of extracting corpses (corpses, a slang for C0, LB0, NP0 characters)... And due to the continued viral promotion, this distortion has even existed for many years...
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>>1543612
>And the mainstream of Europe and the United States has never been sold on the so-called "2D games".
Only eastern gacha. The west eats up shit like fifa ultimate team.
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>>1543603
>>1543612
>>1543617
It feels as if Mihoyo's success was short-lived.
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>>1543622
Depending on how this goes I feel like Genshin blowing up during covid was the best and worst thing to happen to Mihoyo.
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>>1543626
Not only to them but the whole gacha industry.
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>>1543627
I think it'll just revert back to how things were pre-covid. Instead of seeing your big "open-world" games. Stuff like BA will become more common since it is probably way cheaper to produce.
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>>1543617
(cont.)
The essence of "Second Tour" is extremely extended

Many people do not understand why the 2D games have to expand their market and engage in fan circle marketing...
But if they realize the essence of the so-called "2D games", they will find that the misunderstanding mentioned in the previous sentence is just a kind of inevitability.

The previous paragraph has already mentioned casinos + brothels.

[*] Let's talk about brothels first.

In ancient times, the places of prostitution were divided into many grades.
The first grade is [brothels] (TL note: Idk the proper English word for this). Corresponding to the current entertainment circle... On the surface, they are playing "high art" and "selling art but not selling bodies", but in fact, those who know what is inside know it.
The second grade [Red House/Flower House]. It is not that you are very DO as soon as you enter, but you accompany guests to drink and have fun, perform some simple talents, or accompany guests to play some small games that seem extremely stupid, but anyone can know that the real purpose is not to drink, and finally get to the point.
The third grade [Washe/Goulan]. It is basically DO...
These three categories still exist today, but the venues, names, and covers have changed differently.

The so-called 2D games actually occupy a virtual niche between the second and third gears.
Therefore, when the bait is not attractive enough (there have been many criticisms and analyses of the reasons for this insufficiency in various forums), it is natural and logical to use some means from high positions (brothels/entertainment circles)~~After understanding this, it is not surprising to see fan circle marketing in the 2D game circle.
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>>1543631
Damn, forgotten to change Second Tour to 2D games
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>>1543631
At this time, some 2D game fans will definitely advocate some emotional value, some character love, and some companionship...
Then do you know why many civilians (with some spending power) in ancient times lingered in the place of prostitution? Was it simply because of the strong desire for idols?

+Simple analysis...
1. Emotional needs: People have deep emotional communication needs. When these needs are not met in daily life, they may seek this way to fill the emotional void even if they know it is a paid service.
2. Escape from reality: Faced with difficulties and pressures in life, some people may choose to temporarily escape from reality and find spiritual comfort in this way, which is similar to the behavior of some people using drugs to escape reality.
3. Social isolation: In modern society, although people are in the crowd, social isolation and loneliness are prevalent. In addition to material services, brothels or similar places also provide a sense of "being understood" and "being cared for".
4. Repetition reinforcement: When this behavior brings temporary psychological satisfaction and pleasure, individuals may form dependence, and even if they know that this satisfaction is paid or fictitious, they find it difficult to extricate themselves, which is similar to the psychological mechanism of addictive behavior.

So look back at the original speech of the founder of the Doxxing Factory: otakus are a group of XXXX people, lacking XXXX and needing XXXX. . .
The user portrait is indeed quite accurate. 233
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>>1543634
(cont.)
But the problem comes again.
1. The inferior, one-size-fits-all, scripted, memorized interactions in 2D games. Can they really compare to the professional, customized services of real practitioners? (This item is linked to the price, because the price is more expensive than real-person services)
2. Among the above elements, is there anything that is the patent of the so-called 2D games???? Is there anything that 2D games have achieved the highest in the industry? ? ? (Item 4 may really be)
3. It sounds good, but psychological comfort is not prostitution. Haha? I keep all the content of comfort, but the executor is replaced by a big man who picks his feet. Do you buy it?
4. In 2D games, it is what I often say to 2D mobile game fans: if all the characters in the "game" you play are replaced with pixelated people in MineCraft from the beginning (the reason why I emphasize "from the beginning" is to eliminate sunk costs and behavioral inertia), will you still play???


This part is just to tear off the hiding veil.
I said at the beginning: shivering is human nature, it is "natural"! It is not shameful to say it directly...
But if you insist on pretending to be a virtuous person and deceiving yourself, it will be a laughing stock...
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>>1543637
>shivering
fuck, it should be "sex"
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>>1543629
>Instead of seeing your big "open-world" games. Stuff like BA will become more common
Azur Promiliasisters... Is it too late for us?
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>>1543637
(cont.)
[*] Next is the focus, casinos.

Let me first make a bold statement: among all the industries in reality, the one that is most keen on "expanding the market" is the gambling industry. Even if it is not the first, it will be in the top three.
So do you understand why the 2D game manufacturers are crazy about expanding the circle? (Even if they don't play dirty or stuff private goods (TL: private goods, this word can = their own fetishes))

In fact, to be fair, gambling elements and gameplay are not completely incompatible, but the game must be dominated by gameplay. (For this kind of game, is Kanku C (TL: Kanku C? KanKore?) an example?)
But! Manufacturers, especially those manufacturers, no one can withstand the temptation of [gambling's huge profits] and not take gambling as the core element of design. Then, once this is done, the nature of the "game" is completely changed.
All design elements give way to gambling, and all thoughts are spent on how to tempt players to spend money to buy chips.

For this question, I have directly posted the picture. I can’t say anything better than what some forum friends said.
(TL: I will omit the pictures, sorry)

I will not elaborate on the harm of gambling, as everyone understands it.... What I want to emphasize here is the excessive profits brought by gambling and the adverse effects it brings.

Investors have always only looked at the profit rate, especially the short-term interest rate.
The huge profits from gambling are well known to everyone. Coupled with the domestic ban on gambling, the advantages of online casinos are even greater.
For all the high-quality games, the producers have spent several times more resources and efforts than the "2D mobile game" manufacturers, but the final selling price is less than one order (TL: of $100) from others. Excessive profit gaps will directly cause investors to change direction. This corresponds to the conclusion 2 at the beginning.
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>>1543629
>Stuff like BA will become more common since it is probably way cheaper to produce.

Basically things like BA or HSR will likely be the future of high production gacha which isn't really bad thing.

>>1543644
AP is a flop in the making because they made a game that is the complete opposite of the target audience of their previous products in order to shamelessly chase trends along with a Sony port which will prevent them from pivoting to fanservice which shit goes south.
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>>1543649
(cont.)
Mobile games, especially 2D game manufacturers, are making games that are a hundred times worse than FS, Larian, CDPR, and RS, but they are making profits that are dozens of times higher than them. Why?

(The recent sharp drop in profits of 2D mobile games is because the channel parties discovered their huge profits and raised the cost of expanding the market together with the head monopolists. Before that, it was a huge profit) At the same time, the excessive profits also made the producers themselves deluded...
"I make more than the industry leaders because I am strong, and it is definitely not because gambling itself is a highly profitable industry."
They claim to be social elites and superior, and look down on players more and more. This is also one of the reasons why they like to teach and discipline players from a high position.

Moreover, the recent skinsuits (TL: self-inserts), and the rhythm of adding all kinds of smelly symbols and straight-ball yin and yang (TL: yin and yang may be = scarcasm?) texts directly into the game...
What is the root cause? The Doxxing Factory has been degens from the beginning. Yes, that's right!
However, without the excessive profits from gambling, which gave them sufficient confidence and superiority, would they dare to jump in the face (TL: of players) and mock so blatantly???
Isn't the degree of the degeneracy of the Doxxing Factory just rising with their profits? (It is now a difficult situation to reverse, but it was completely subtle before)
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I still don't get why Shaoji basing off Firefly with his girlfriend is gay. I actually find it cute. They should really pay close attention to the Kotaku/Swet Baby Inc. contributors and the tranny apologist types. No, Fanchuan crossdressing as a joke for a company Christmas Party is not supporting the LGBT cause
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>>1543660
They have too many hate speeches and presumptions of guilt. As long as you set a target, you can always find all kinds of so-called evidence to prove it
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>>1543658
(cont.)
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The playability of "2D mobile games" and the impact of overturning the gambling aspect

The conflict between gambling and gameplay has been discussed in the previous chapter.

Here I would like to mention another factor. . .
There has never been a conflict between sex contents and gameplay. In the history of the gaming industry, there are many games that are both highly playable and have sufficient fanservice. And even for players who are purely interested in playing the sex factor, is there anything that can surpass Illusion?? Is there?

But the fun and bullshit thing is that in various player communities, when it comes to improving the gameplay of the 2D game, the first people who jump out to oppose it are a group of moe people who play with sex...
It makes people feel extremely funny... And the manufacturers also like to use this as a shield, and never mention the real culprit that really leads to the lack of gameplay: the gambling pool (TL: pool = banner).

Moreover, in order to tempt the audience to pay for chips, the producers will inevitably control and deduct all the content that can be obtained for free in the game. Do you think this includes the sex contents and "companionship" that MMRs (TL: MMRs = moe people) are thinking about?

It can be said that completely overturning the gambling aspect in the industry will benefit all players and all audience groups without any harm...
Only by completely eradicating the excess profits that manufacturers get from gambling can they truly return to the path of serving the audience and improve the quality of the game in all aspects.
At the same time, the possible price of in-game purchases will also drop significantly... You can buy better quality with less money. Those who understand will understand what kind of people are against this.
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>>1543671
(cont.)

And I have been calling for it in the forum before, shouting slogans and acting like a repeater, there is nothing wrong with it, it is indeed useful to deal with social management (TL: social management maybe = shills). But can you type all the words...
"Have men don't play" are just a little tougher, and they have changed from a small battered wife to a medium battered wife...
"A clear re-fund" is the real killer (if you want a clear refund, you must clearly mark the price, which is to a certain extent forcing the abolition of the gambling banner).
Haven't you noticed that all manufacturers, whether they support or oppose or stir up trouble, never mention these last four words?
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>>1543666
you 100% idiot, are we here on 4chan to talk about "evidence"? If you want to talk about it, please go to court imao
we just want "presumption of guilt", so what?
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>>1543675
Ah yes, good old Chinese Struggle Session. All I'm saying is that you Chinks should concentrate your target in a single target that could potentially ruin your games industry, like Sweet Baby Inc. affiliates and pro-transexual rights activists. Outside China, there is a growing alliance between anti-LGBT lesbians and conservatives against the tranny menace. Maybe you people should start with that instead of shooting bystanders who probably didn't do anything wrong.
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>>1543673
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The 2D games in the strange Celestial Empire

I originally wanted to put this paragraph in the gambling element section, but after thinking about it, I decided to bring it up separately.
The main reason is the outrageous pricing of 2D games in China. The price of drawing cards is the most expensive in the world, and this does not take into account the difference in per capita income, otherwise it would be even more exaggerated. This is another reason for the huge profits.

All the 2D mobile game manufacturers, no matter how they change, no matter how they say they want to improve player welfare and benefit players.
As long as you dare to mention a price reduction, the response will definitely be "the law of our ancestors cannot be changed, if it is changed, the sun will be exploded tomorrow."

It can be seen that all second-hand game manufacturers are the same, with no essential difference.
[648] (TL: 648 = $100) has become a totem, a totem that symbolizes the foul and huge profits of "2D mobile games". Even if the current manufacturers want to reduce prices, they can only secretly improve the welfare a little bit. They will definitely not dare to move this totem! The gambling banner will not be abolished, and 648 will not be destroyed. Everything that is for the players and what it means to love you is just a lie and a show.

Conclusion: All the problems of today's 2D mobile games, whether it is the deterioration of content, the hollowness of gameplay, or the manufacturers' crazy stuffing of their own fetishes and mocking players.
At the root of it, all are caused by "taking gambling as the core", and the gambling elements have taken over the game and turned it into a casino.
If players do not find the real source and point the spearhead at the real target. Even if we win this time, everything that happened today will happen again.
The "2D Game" in the title must be destroyed. Strictly speaking, it should be [Gambling Kiln] that must be destroyed.
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>>1543678
end of the article
>>1543678
wrong. don't divert the main culprit.
It's gacha that is the cardinal sins, the origins of all this mess
>Everything that is for the players and what it means to love you is just a lie and a show.
>If players do not find the real source and point the spearhead at the real target. Even if we win this time, everything that happened today will happen again.
>The "2D Game" in the title must be destroyed. Strictly speaking, it should be [Gambling Kiln] that must be destroyed.

Therefore, the motto should be "Refund!".
Or for me, I think a hard limit on top-up, i.e. regulations from EU or China is even better
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>>1543680
Someone summarize this in 10 words or less.
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>>1543683
modern gacha bad
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>>1543684
Cheers
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>>1543684
Gacha must be destroyed
Modern or not
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>>1543660
The alleged truth about Firefly should not have come out. When you decide to base a character on someone you know you have to be careful, especially in a market where Waifu and husbando are sold. Firefly by many players more serious than the average of those of mihoyo is also considered one of the things that ruined Penacony and it does not take much to understand why she has had all that visibility compared to even the rest of the Nameless. If you remove Firefly from Penacony almost nothing changes, in fact the plot could even improve.
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>>1543683
Gacha games are bad for you.
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>>1543657
manjuu has a small staff, the normie audience won't play AP, for the sole reason they won't be able to keep up with genshin/hsr/zzz content cadence. Manjuu can't even make measly 3D dorms for their only game on time. They've scrapped ideas for game modes for azur lane. It hasn't gotten any major updates, it's virtually the same game from day 1. Hoyo has spoiled every normie with their ability to shit out content. Manjuu should have stuck to pleasing their current audience, because they have low standards, manjuu can keep up with them.
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>normie
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>>1543682
well, I do agree with you in that aspect. I am glad Chinks are slowly learning the importance of data ownership.
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>>1543688
>The alleged truth about Firefly should not have come out.
This paragraph from >>1543658 clearly explain the reason:

>Moreover, the recent self-inserts, and the drama of adding all kinds of disgusting symbols and straight-ball sarcasm texts directly into the game...
>What is the root cause? Mihoyo has been degens from the beginning. Yes, that's right!
>However, without the excessive profits from gambling, which gave them sufficient confidence and superiority, would they dare to jump in the face of players and mock so blatantly???
>Isn't the degree of the degeneracy of Mihoyo just rising with their profits? (It is now a difficult situation to reverse, but it was completely subtle before)
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>>1543688
/u/ hands typed this post
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>>1543678
lgbt has nothing to do with us. We just want mihoyo to be completely destroyed. They only gave out 3 fates as gifts last New Year, and nothing else. The entire Sumeru version did not have a new female character, only one Naxida. This is enough to make every people angry. Now all social media in cn wants to kill mihoyo, mihoyo will be quickly and completely destroyed by us. This is a fact.
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>>1543696
>all of this is just newfag genshin nigger melty
every single time. Stop proving my hypothesis right
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>>1543683
It's a thesis on gacha seen from a chinese point of view i think.
>>1543686
What should be destroyed is the entire system of f2p games that monetize every part of the game. Monetization should be only for cosmetic stuff and at most advantages (not too much) in progression, characters and equipment should all be obtainable by every type of players.
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>>1543696
>Now all social media in cn wants to kill mihoyo, mihoyo will be quickly and completely destroyed by us. This is a fact.
Godspeed.
>>1543697
If the chinks want to burn down Oyohim liet them.
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>>1543698
Yes, that is the final step.
At the moment, we will raise the voices to attack "gacha" first (because they're the most bullshit atm), after that would be "f2p every aspect" games
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>>1543612
>Doxxing Factory (nickname of Mihoyo).
QRD?
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>>1543701
Because some mihoyo fanboys are very rabid and organized doxxing on people who only raised voice of criticism against Genshin (not even to the degree anti-mihoyo people).
There was a rumor of a girl getting doxxed so hard that she attempted suicided, but Mihoyo is so cancerous that they even putting reference of that girl into Starrail. Hence the drama, and after that the nickname Doxxing Factory was coined.
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>>1543702
>but Mihoyo is so cancerous that they even putting reference of that girl into Starrail
wow
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Just play better gacha. Problem solve.
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>>1543703
So you can see how people are so angry against Mihoyo in CN, and how anti-mihoyo mobs was growing so much
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>>1543705
and that is a good thing, keep it going chinks
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>>1543702
>they put a reference of the whole ordeal into Star Rail
which one is it?
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>Monetization should be only for cosmetic stuff and at most advantages (not too much) in progression, characters and equipment should all be obtainable by every type of players.
How many people do you think have spoke about this and how many times have it succeeded?
If the chinks think this is a situation unique to them, calling them sheltered is an understatement. They have somehow missed how the every single other gaming market in every single region has been developing for the past 20 years.
The whole thing about microtransaction is something that has been around longer than some people have been alive.
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>>1543701
This is the consensus in our cn community. All the villains in Genshin Impact, Star Rail, and Zero Zone are artificial prototypes of those who oppose MiHoYo. MiHoYo created the game for humiliate them. Like the self-insert mentioned above, we can always find common ground between villains and those who oppose miHoYo》MiHoYo is the public enemy of mankind.
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>>1543707
all. All the clowns in the game are based on people who oppose miHoYo
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>>1543711
you're not helping your case, buddy
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You now remember that most female trailer MHY puts out have the girl beating up a man.
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>>1543712
This is a fact recognized by our entire cn community, and no one doubts it. I'm friends with the person who wrote that NGA article. We all think so. Don't try to exonerate mihoyo.
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>>1543717
help me find the article, faggot, idk moonscript so it's very difficult to find, after getting the article I can explain it to others
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>>1543721
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41317739

The NGA mobile game comprehensive discussion board is recognized as a righteous community. We are fighters against the evil MiHoYo. All other communities have fallen. They are all filial sons of the army and MiHoYo. Only we are still making the final resistance.
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>>1543722
okay, got it
>The NGA mobile game comprehensive discussion board is recognized as a righteous community.
cut that crap, there is no one here care about righteous or not. 4chan is the dark (but still plebian) zone of the Internet, if you're here then lurk and learn the rule.
Never argue with emotions. People won't care, instead you should argue from the aspect of benefits and harms. Learn from the ways Legalist philosophers (such as Shangyang) argue
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>>1543717
typed like a true tyrant. Democracy and its consequences etc. etc.
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>>1543722
>https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41317739
wtf, I need the article about "open box" in writing of Starrail, not this one
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I didn't read all that but, from what I gather chink gacha are really bad if you complain this much about them.

Don't know if I believe this NGA, however. Would have to see all their gaming tastes to judge.
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>>1543726
Any human being with a conscience will regard MiHoYo as his lifelong enemy. You always try to whitewash MiHoYo. I have reason to suspect you, Did you take money from mihoyo?
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>>1543730
Welcome to slurpers and bootlickers sir, they do it for free btw
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>>1543729
It's meaningless. It seems that this place has also been occupied by MiHoYo's army. You can take care of yourself. Anyone who still has a conscience, remember that MiHoYo should be your eternal enemy!
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>>1543729
You come to a drama thread and then find a load of drama and shits, woah
But it is really that bad, gacha drama is totally cancerous with how the devs treated their slurpers, but chink gacha drama and chink gacha devs are on another level
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>>1543733
If these are comments from one man, he must be a narcissistic psychopath
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>>1543696
Genshin attracted too many normalfags at the start that allowed Mihoyo to get away with that. Anyone left at this point has enough experience with gachashit to know they're being spat on.
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>>1543713
It's hilarious how the female character that they marketed heavily like that was one, or the worst, flop ever
They fucking destroyed her banner forever
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>>1543707
Finally found it: https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=38439041 https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9115636161
Goddamn the useless chink only blah blah but not providing the source, wasting me nearly an hour to find it
The name of victim is "A Xin".
>There is an interactive-able grave on the road that must be passed through in the new map of the Star Rail main quest. The above plot will occur after the interaction
>players can choose to "furiously open" "A Xin's" tribute blind box", and then they will lose an in-game item "Praise for sublime morality".
>As for who Axin is, she, like "Baichuan", is one of the earliest victims of the Xianjia Army's box opening behavior, and is also the first batch of victims who were hung in the Yasukuni Shrine by the Xianjia Army.

Note:
"Opening box" is term CN used for doxxing.
Xianjia Army = a group of mihoyo slurpers, mainly consists of schoolkids at Bilibili, that are notorious of their aggressive doxxing against anti-mihoyo and people who complain about mihoyo practice. As said in the post, they also hung the names of some doxxed victims at Yasukuni Shrine, as a way of cyber bullying.
In the choices when interacting with the grave, there is a choice of "furiously open" (the box), which euphemistically means "doxx it aggressively".
Of course, shills had deflected by claiming that "the writers only want to satire the doxxing practice", but then why the writers had put "A Xin" name in, and why they had written the word "furiously, strongly open"?

That's the quick rundown, anyone who played Star Rail in English, please send me the Eng version of that scene, I want to see how they had written it in English. I'm only playing Genshin, but not Star Rail.
Btw, a nice trivia, "Is this thing really important?" is a very familar remark from Li Mengan, a "famous" writer at Mihoyo
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>>1543342
Token (you) pandering. They're there to keep the self-insert players from leaving. Once Mihomo got the money, these characters get negative screentime.
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Lots of hot air here, but thread has plenty of eye opening stuff too. Good work folks. Was optimistic on the anti-oyohim movement, but I am mighty pleased with how the motivated chinks are with it.
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Some drama from another game.
Guilongchao changed their gacha system on their 4th beta:
>SSR rate nerfed from 2% to 1%
>Guarantee at 90 changed to coinflip on 80, guarantee on 160
>Resources from completing the content have 70 less pulls
>Standard banner changed from a selector every 70 pulls to an one time selector at 200 pulls
>Weapon gacha changed from direct pulling to a co-op boss fight. Still cost gems same as pulling, to enter the boss fight. You have to to it one at a time, so basically you have to clear 10 co-op stages to do a 10-pull.
This is a paid beta so this is probably final.
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>>1543766
>Guarantee at 90 changed to coinflip on 80, guarantee on 160
Holy shit, another dev got the oyohim virus!
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>>1543756
https://honkai-star-rail.fandom.com/wiki/The_Sorcerer%27s_Tombstone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UEIH99puDbU
Seems pretty different.
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>>1543766
>>1543767
I hate this 50/50 bullshit.
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>>1543766
>coinflip again
>please fuhao don't forget the weapon banner
Fuck off.
>One time selector
Die. Get cremated and don't come back.
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>>1543768
Thank you, this again confirmed my hypothesis that the translation team had filtered the passive aggressive bullshit of mihoyo when preparing content for us global players.
Nilou "my legs are itchy" is an example.
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>>1543775
>translation team had filtered the passive aggressive bullshit of mihoyo
I have never once in my life seen the localizers work in the "benefit" of the player, but here we are.
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>>1543776
Indeed, in the poetry event between Liyue and Mondstadt, Hu Tao poem in CN implied that Traveler is wild boar, but luckly the localization filtered that bullshit for us.
Thank you based translators, thank you very much!
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>>1543777
>Hu Tao poem in CN implied that Traveler is wild boar
???
This makes no sense in any context of the game.
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>>1543777
Is the original around ? I want to laugh.
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>>1543766
What? Chink wank mixed toilet gacha copying gayshit? No way!
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>>1543766
>paying to enter a coop boss fight to get your gacha pull
Lemme guess, if you lose you don't get a refund or retry either? Devilish.
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>>1543766
>went from promising to absolute horseshit
what were they thinking? who said this was a good idea with a straight face? fire them and ban them from the fucking industry for life holy shit what the fuck lol
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>>1543779
Here bros:
https://ambr.top/chs/archive/quest/10127/congenial-gathering
https://ambr.top/chs/archive/quest/10128/tears-among-the-leaves

The first line:
>The sparrows took away the rice, and the forest pigs dug the ground in anxiety.
According to chink schizos, the sparrows here are the symbol for Mika (okay, this I understand), and the rice implicitly means Noelle (???). Forest Pig = Player, so the whole line means:
Mika took away Noelle, so the travelers can only scream

The second line:
>Forest pig is to sea shrimp, violet melon is to matsutake mushroom!
This one is my own deduction, I haven't see the chink ones yet. As we all knew, Violet Flying Melon is the nickname Itto calls Paimon. So both of them appear in a same sentence, is another evidence for Forest Pig = Traveler

The third line:
>A forest pig weighs twenty pounds. How can the gas pot hold it?
This one requires a little bit of chinese understanding. Gas (air) in chinese is Qi (yes as Qi Cultivators, we all knew!), but Qi can also means Seven! A chinese pound is 0.5 kg (is it true?) so the whole line implicitly means:
"A Traveler weighs 100 kg (200 pounds), How can Seven pot (countries) hold it?"
Which is mocking fat otaku how could they deserve to enjoy Seven Maps of Genshin, kek. AHAHAHAAAA
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>>1543791
Seems like a stretch. It's obvious the Genshin team hates their players, no need to go to schizo levels trying to prove anything.
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>>1543794
Haha, indeed if it's in another country, then I agree, but this is China, a place notorious with passive aggressive tradition.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_inquisition#Examples
>In 1730, Xu Jun (徐骏) wrote a poem 清风不识字,何故乱翻书。 [The clear [Qing] winds cannot read, so why do they flip the book pages?] This was interpreted as insinuating that the Manchu rulers of Qing were illiterate. For this and similar poems, he was executed.[46]

Back then, when I was watching this in a CN historical drama, I also thought that why the chinks so paranoid. But now with mihoyo, I fully understand why the Manchu king was so angry, they were clearly mocking him outright by using sophisticated words, how could the king not execute them as an example?
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>>1543794
>no need to go to schizo levels trying to prove anything
This is 99% of this thread, why are you even here?
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>>1543791
I can taste the seethe in it. Someone was mocked for their poor prose writing in class.
One Kin is like yea, 500 - 600 gms.
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Rent free, incels.
You lost btw
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>>1543801
cope more, shills
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>>1543801
Stop tucking your tail under your arse when you bark.
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>zero contributions
>"AAAIIIEEEE WHY CAN'T WE BEAT MIHOYO I WANT THEM DOWN NOW"
The duality of chinkcels
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>They only gave out 3 fates as gifts last New Year, and nothing else.
So in the end, it's just poorfags crying about not getting enough free shit.
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>>1543854
kek, how will mihomo troons recover
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>>1543825
>posting cuck doe unironically
Get fucked hoyonigger.
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>>1543920
Seethe and have sex
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>the best he got is random fully clothed npcs
Not even worth a (you).
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Are these threads really nothing but slant eyes seething at gachashit?
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>>1543945
Read the title of the thread.
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>>1543920
>this fictional character isn't for (me):'(((
Beta mindset. No wonder noone takes you seriously.
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>>1543951
No need to reply to my comment twice cuckbro.
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>ZZZfag getting uppity
Here have some fresh cringe off the press. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIEjSsN_ePY
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You guys are being retard for hating on mihoyo just because they base their characters on their real life experiences. That's pretty standard, lots of writers do that, not everyone can be Brandon Sanderson whipping up magical stories and characters out of nowhere. Take the Firefly character for example, we can get her a pass since GFE writers usually write the best GFE stories to maximize profits when they've been through similar experiences. Other industries do that to, like in vtubing scene Rushia was married before so she knows how to cater to her male audience and squeeze every penny out of them.
But yeah, it's also fair to call out mihoyo for trashing on self-inserters when the devs are basically doing the same thing themselves, they're also the retards.
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troons and cuckolds out the woodwork, seapag hours i guess?
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>>1543956
Seafags hate troons and cuckolds the most what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>1543955
Nah fuck off with that shit.
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>>1543957
Then explain why as soon as SEA hours roll around the homoverse defense force shows up in droves.
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>1543957
>Noooo only my boogyman hates those!
Did someone link this thread to /vg/ or something?
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>>1543963
Because chinks start posting too?
You don't actually think these cherry-picked posts from tieba and NGA in any way represent the majority of bugmen, right?
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is this cuck in the room with us right now?
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>>1543973
Seems like it.
>>1543801
>>1543825
>>1543941
>>1543951
>>1543955
>>1543957
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>the best selling games are all called cuckshit
I'm starting to think you niggers are just seething over others' success, especially with how ZZZ completely mogged snowbreak during its anniversary.
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>>1543979
Tencent makes more than hoyo.
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>>1543983
Ok? I thought they were cuckshit too.
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>>1543954
Reminder that this game has a built in persona like dating sim feature lmao.
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>>1543985
Nope just greedy, Zoobro.
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>>1543988
Every company is greedy.
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>ZZZfaggot isn't shilling the Wuwa thread.
Very interesting.
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>>1543986
So who is the cuck then? (you) or Seth?
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>>1543990
Then why are you shilling for Hoyo Zoobro?
>>1543992
(you) are of course.
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>>1543991
>the zzzshill here is the same one that shitposts in /wuwa/
interesting
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I think that gacha games should reduce their prices. Right now pulls are way too expensive so you either be a whale or subscription only. Being a "medium" has no advantage - rates are so low you need to spend at least $200 to guarantee an SSR. They need to cater more to people who are willing to spend less than $30 per month, that might get them more revenue than simply milking whales.
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Can you decide which boogieman I'm supposed to be? I can't be so many people at once.
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>>1543999
The cuckolded ZZZfag who is here to defend and shill for Mihoyo.
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>>1543999
Vb
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>>1543997
Why is genshin now reducing the amount of pulls needed to get the weapon you want?
Instead of 270 in the worst case, to 180 pulls. A huge difference.
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>>1543979
>I'm starting to think you niggers are just seething over others' success
Even Gardenscapes completely mogged ZZZ and and it didn’t even have any of that cuckshit. What's your point? Feels like you're just sticking to your comfort zone and never bothering to look beyond the gacha scene.
The best selling games aren't even gacha and and none of them have the cuckshit you're talking about, even the most woke game recently like Bear's Gate 3 still has a harem-friendly option for your self insert.
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>>1544010
See? You are seething so hard you have to compare it to games that aren't even gachashit.
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>hoyoslurper proven wrong
>instantly malds

Clockwork.
I met seafags who can't think and will shill for equality in gbf. Treat every gacha with extreme prejudice.

>>1544008
Who pulls the weapon banner ? they should had either incorporated past weapons into standard or lowered the cost long ago. This cope tactic will not work when chinks are on different topic.
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>>1544010
>why are you focusing on gachashit in a thread about gachashit
lol
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>>1544012
>you have to compare it to games that aren't even gachashit.
If you're only counting gachashit, then don't call your homo games 'the best selling games'. Also LAD a ML game is absolutely crushing all Hoyo games right now with 10 times fewer costs and players.
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>>1544018
>1/10 the revenue
>crushing
Is this the time we pretend the studio that started hiring again 3 months ago is 10 people on a shoe string and not backed by Kingsoft?
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>>1544019
What the fuck are you talking about? LAD is not backed by Kingsoft.
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>>1544018
No one really cares about how much oyohim earns. They can be funded by Xi for all I care. Oyo is catching fire because they are attention seeking deviants.
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>>1543961
>Nah fuck off with that shit.
Don't count on it, writing stories based on real life experiences is a standard and totally normal, how else are you gonna make romance drama feel real if you haven't felt love yourself?
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>>1543979
Because deep down they still want hoyo to course correct and pander to them, they just can't be honest about it.
The fact that they're being reluctant on spending in all female kusoge being the proof of it.
These chinktards will refute any talks about waifuge revenues by mentioning unrelated shit like tencent lmao.
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>>1544022
by incorporating yourself in it ? If people want a Genshin My Immortal they can go for fanfiction.
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>>1544024
You lost if "muh revenue" is your only defense.
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>>1544031
>t. poorfag
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>>1544031
He played that card earlier in the thread while ignoring all of the charts showing Genshit is falling of a cliff.
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>>1544024
>mentioning unrelated shit like tencent lmao.
Tencent still makes ACG games that stick to the target audience without shoving in any wokeshit like LGBT or cuckshit. When I was in gig or hsr threads every anon had that victim mentality to think Tencent is seething that mihoyo is more popular but that's just true. Tencent is a public company so they're all greedy fucks but they don't waste time on petty jealousy and just focus on making good (albeit greedy) games and their revenue proves it.
Seriously step out of your comfort zone and give their games a shot.
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>proben right in less than 10 minues
so true, retard but where's your waifuge in all this
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>proben
So it is a Seafag after all.
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>seafag
so it's a self-hating seafag after all.
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>>1544008
And yet it's still beaten out by their closest competitor, WuWa, that only needs 80 pulls for the limited weapon guaranteed lmao
Even when they finally acknowledge that they have to make changes that massively benefit their playerbase, they still have that touch of greed
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Don't mind me, just enjoying my popcorn.
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>>1544059
>I was pretending to be retarded
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>>1544051
Chinese abandoned us.
Japs turn their back on us.
We aren't beating no one. We're on our own.
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>>1543029
A game based on real vtubers? Great, so we can get cucked for real when it's revealed that these vtubers have boyfriends.
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>>1543694
Stop jerking off to someones gf and actually think about how they force her on you even though she doesnt actually add anything
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>hoyoshills are SEAmonkey
>again
>also into cuckolding
>AGAIN
DING DING DING EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME AHHHHHHHHH
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>>1544022
Drawing on your life experience is completely different from writing an author self insert.
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>>1544113
Not surprising. You can buy them illegally off amazon in the rest of the world too. There is almost no actual controls when it comes to that. It's almost like a certain tribe wants to spread them....
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ZZZ didn't make it into the top 10 in the first month
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>>1544118
fucking hell they even knew our pasta
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>>1544102
Every time indeed
>>1544113
"girlpills" wtf is that? Female hormones to transition?
>>1544120
honeymoon phase didn't last very long and people already leaving this trash? I'm not surprised at all
>>1544122
lmao
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im the only white poster itt
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>>1544129
t. brown poster
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>>1544122
Fucking kek
Probably a 4chan shitposter larping as chinese, though
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>>1544122
bbbbbased
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The video that exposed Fuhua to be a MHY employee's self insert got took down by bilibili, partially confirmed that the speculation was correct.
TL's note: rice = mhy, station = bilibili
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>>1544122
LMFAO
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>>1544137
Correction: the video (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sdp9eyEvd/) was requested to be deleted for infringement claim
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>>1544120
mihomo fags lie about sales, wowzers!
funny how no one ever talks about the other games that are consistently top grossing, beating every single mihomo game into humiliation
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>>1544146
They only pretend their gacha is a "real game" unlike other gacha when it's convenient.
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>>1544144
Can't fucking chinks host it somewhere like kick ?
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>>1544152
YTP saved the day, got a copy. Suck it MHY.
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>>1544146
>>1544149
>mihomo fags lie about sales, wowzers!
To be fair they didn't lie about ZZZ being the top grossing game in the gacha scene, because it's true if you look at gachashit only. Maybe this is news to you, but chink players have always known this, that mihoyo isn't the top dog in the CN gaming industry since HoK has always been at the top and now with DFO mobile in the 2nd place it just reinforces that Tencent still runs the show.
What's surprising is that the global hoyoslurpers in this thread who literally play Genshin as their first game, try to dunk on the rest of the industry without knowing better. Yes, Genshin is big, but not that big compared to other ACG games. Genshin gives Hoyoverse some global presence but also that pretty much stops with Genshin since their other newer games are less relevant globally, with less global revenue and a smaller global player base since most of their revenue is now back to Asia.
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>>1543955
You can't compare the two, Sanderson targets a certain type of customer while gacha targets another type. Gachas, especially those in Anime style, aim at those customers who want to collect their favorite characters. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of characters from a lot of famous works were self inserts or inspired by real people but at least the authors don't flaunt it on a social network, if I were the head of mihoyo today I would immediately fire all those idiot employees. As for Firefly, her scenes, especially the GFE ones, shouldn't have been in a main quest, but the writer had the good idea of inserting her into the main plot at the expense of more important characters. From some leaks it also seems that the final boss wasn't supposed to be Sunday but the Watchmaker or something similar, but the first one became the boss because he was the writer's favorite.

I don't care much about stuff like master love, mixed toilet and other things, but seeing a plot with potential ruined by the writer's egocentrism and narcissism pisses me off a lot.
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>>1544059
u are game shit bro pleease just die
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>>1544149
funny because all hoyoshit games have shallow repetitive gameplay despite their self-insert slops making millions per month
hoyofags literally get scammed because they think this is what gacha standard is
they think rolling for 7 character copies and 5 weapon copies to complete one character is the standard
they think throwing nearly $6000 to complete one character is generous compared to other monetization methods
they think despite all mihomo games making millions per month, it's okay for the update content in all their games to be low effort management menus and simulators and minigames instead of new additions build up on the base game
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>>1544199
you don't even know how right on the money you are, hoyofags are so far up their own ass
https://x.com/Notmdi/status/1824994579965149318
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>>1544203
at this point, i dont even consider tendies to be the worst fanboys out there
at most, they pay about 1000 bucks to get the system, a handful of good games, and maybe an online subscription that lasts a year
that's it
they do not spend as much as hoyofags in a month, especially on shit games that are kept stagnant
even the worst tendie slop is still better than whatever hoyo produces, especially now that we know all hoyoslop characters are disgusting self-inserts
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So this is where all the seething wuwacucks are at since they can't shit up /r/gachagaming anymore kek
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>>1543660
>I still don't get why Shaoji basing off Firefly with his girlfriend is gay.
Because if you support it you're pretty much helping this Shaoji guy in stroking his e-penis. That's gay af.
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Why do hoyo antis never provide examples of better games during their hate rants? Genuine question
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>>1544223
They're in denial.
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>>1544223
BOTW
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>>1544223
Persona 5
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>>1544223
Limbus.
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>>1544223
Love Deepspace. The game respects its audience (no homoshit allowed).
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>>1544223
wuthering waves
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>>1544223
Snowbreak. Blue Archive. FGO.
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>>1544223
There's no good gacha games. Cope, seethe and dilate more.
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>>1544238
The only correct answer. Incels and homotranny btfo.
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i need love inside my deepspace...
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>>1544199
Totally agree but learn about the absurdity that is AFK Journey and then we'll talk about it.

>>1544223
WuWa even if they should have removed the 50/50 even on the characters banner to sink mihoyo. Zlong Langrisser Mobile if you are not interested in PVP is quite f2p friendly even if it has its flaws.
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>>1544008
Ah yes, the price to guarantee a weapon has gone from $540 to just $360 an amazing saving and so cheap.
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>>1544268
why is she unhappy now :(
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>>1544270
She found out she was a computer program and doesn't real.
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>>1544223
There is no good gacha. Gacha was a compromise in the past, but now it becomes unreasonable as the way forward.
For example, Ex Astris is a first step on the way to proper mobile games, even it's a shit game, at least Hypergraph is commendable for daring to "break the laws of ancestors" and make a buy out mobile game with a clear price tag and refundable (therefore it flops because of its shit quality).
Hell, even Yuzhong, despite his NTR bullshit and stubbornness, is even better than the rest of gachaslops companies, with the money from GFL at least he finished his Reverse Collapse and put it on Steam.
Meanwhile what did oyohim really done? With the money they got from Honkai 3rd and Genshin, they only put out gachaslops after gachaslops. Even their next game is still F2P model (idk it's gacha or not, but an AC clone with gacha is an abominable thing, imagine having to roll for latest S-rank banner just to keep up your farm!?)

So again, allow me to quote the NGA chinks motto: "Refundable! Clear price tag!"
If it's me, I will add more: "Limit the top-up amount of F2P games!"
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>>1544273
The 50/50 (now 55/45) is still some of the most cancerous shit in gacha. Yet it is still somehow better than FGO, before they implemented their pity system. iirc didn't genshin use to not have guaranteed on their weapon banners before the 3 fails before pity thing? It is ironic they are only making these changes years after the games peak just to try and coerce lower spenders to spend a bit more since the ceiling for cost is a bit lower.
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>>1544268
AHAHAA
As a /hig/ger, I can only say: they deserved Part 2 flop for daring to test the limit of playerbase. Even Adam is still not on the bridge, but they dared to put this Male Dreamseeker on the bridge!? Unforgivable!
But now, it's just too late, betrayed your old playerbase, it's hard to regain the trust.
It's over...
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>>1544276
I don't care. Gacha must die.
F2P top-up must be limited.
Refundable! Clear price tag!
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>>1544278
Funny anytime I talk to people I know about HI3 they all claim nobody likes captianverse and what not.
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>>1544273
Gacha to progress is truly abysmal idea, only the truly daft thinks it should be constantly paraded in the public eye. Devs should go back selling customization and vanity, they also learn how to sell something in the midst too.
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>>1544281
Captainverse is okay, there is no Captain character, no one care aside from canon, storyfags.
But putting an controllable character like Adam, is quite not okay, but at least not the main game, and APHO is truly free, so okay.
But putting an rollable (even it's just an ELF) male character, and let it come to the bridge is unforgivable in an all-female game.
That's clear an act of ruining the tradition since the first days of the game.
not to mention they even Genshitified whole Part 2
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>>1544273
Had a bit of a thunk, and it feels like gacha is a necessary evil due to being the most profitable method of monetization on mobile games, which helps with funding improvements and updates to a game more than other types like ads, cosmetics only, and in-app game unlocking, due to being the only monetization type that can get every kind of player to spend some money no matter if they're casual or whales. I wonder how Love Deepspace does it, since to my knowledge it's very much just a boyfriend simulator game
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>>1544298
>which helps with funding improvements and updates to a game
Had it helped Genshin really?
Had no gacha aspect impacted the ability of FromSoft, Larian, Paradox, RockStar, Nintendo, etc. to fund improvements and updates to a game (DLC is a fucking thing, bro). Even if modern AAA games are slops now, they still pale in the face of gachaslops such as Genshin.
As points out in the NGA article >>1543671 >>1543658
>However, without the excessive profits from gambling, which gave them sufficient confidence and superiority, would they dare to jump in the face of players and mock players so blatantly???
>Isn't the degree of the degeneracy of the Mihoyo just rising with their profits? (It is now a difficult situation to reverse, but it was completely subtle before)

As I said, gacha now is the obstacle in the way of game development, it becomes unnecessary evil.
What you said is right in the past, gacha is a necessary evil, and we can see how the gacha money from Honkai 3rd funds Genshin.
But the past is the past, and now is now.
Now it's really the time eradicate gacha from mobile games and forward to the DLC model as monetization. If gachadevs still being stubborn, then gacha drama will become endless and even more extreme.
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>>1544312
(cont.)
P.S.
In fact, the NTR drama of Genshin 4.8 could really be solved if Genshin was monetized by DLC model.
Players who didn't like the events could opt out and buy the DLC (4.8 event), meanwhile for players who didn't care, it doesn't matter.
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>>1544314
>could opt out and buy the DLC
could opt out and not buy the DLC
damn my typo
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>>1544312
>Had it helped Genshin really?
It paid for 4 years of updates and hyped up two new games no? Quality notwithstanding of course. I agree that the oversuccess of the system is detrimental to the development of better games overall, but there aren't really better alternatives that can produce the same monetary results.
Actually I wonder if there's a chart somewhere that compares the profits of gacha vs other monetization options, would be an interesting read

>>1544314
Nah, not buying the DLC doesn't make a thing not exist, especially when the rest of the world would be up in arms about it anyway
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>>1544326
>Quality notwithstanding of course
That's an understatement, it should be said that they made stupid shits for players to beta test
>two new games
With the exactly same progression model (90/180, 160 per roll, weapon banner, 6 cons, abyss end game).
Even in Nintendo, only the Pokeslops would be that shameless. But at least Pokeslops don't drain grands from whales.

Have you know the new game Ex Astris from Hypergryph? Do you know what the reason it was attacked so hard in CN? The sentiments there were "With so money from Arknights, what they can make is only that Ex Astris!?". That means the playerbase are beginning to awakened, they began to feel the unreasonableness of gacha insanely high profits.
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>>1544238
lmfao this
if you are gonna pander bitches, at least do it right
>>1544273
this, ultimately
gacha does not encourage developers to put effort into good gameplay
it only encourages a slave culture among its audience to keep grinding endlessly for the characters, their weapons, their skills, their stats, etc and then slave some more when the new character and new weapon release a month later
absurd that anyone even THINKS this is a good gameplay loop
there's a reason even games like fortnite are well accepted by gamers compared to gachashit where it is your job to be a slave to the game until its eventual eos
afaik, even fortnite can be fun without endlessly grinding the characters
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>>1544268
doesnt matter
shit game with ugly looking characters
honkaifags are mentally ill
>>1544298
>muh necessary ebil
this mentality is the reason gachanigger developers get away with scamming their audience with low effort reskins instead of putting effort into gameplay
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>>1544312
even monetizing cosmetics sounds much better than having to roll SEVEN fucking copies of a character and FIVE fucking copies of their weapon to complete that one character
ridiculous!
and how does this change the game? gachaslop makes millions per month and the gameplay is still shallow repetitive garbage
i could boot some regular game from a decade or two ago and have more fun with its gameplay and mechanics than i ever would with a gacha
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>>1544333
the day the chinks and japs stop shamelessly throwing their money into low effort cashgrabs that treat their audience like shit, we can finally be hopeful about the mobile gaming market, and also the gaming market as a whole
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>>1544281
I don't want to watch other men interacting with my anime prostitutes I paid for while I sit there in front of a screen like a cuck
I don't care for captainverse but nothing about it is offensive: the protagonist is off-screen because he's supposed to be literary you, and everything is viewed from 1st person. Nobody is going to seethe at Idolmaster for the player character being a man when it's a game about you (a man) managing your anime girls, same applies here.
On the other hand playable 3D modelled male characters are not allowed, and no, calling your playable cuckold avatar "the protagonist" doesn't suddenly make it okay
t. dropped HI3rd when Adam happened

The fact this new brand of chink gacha complainers struggle to understand this betrays the fact they're complete normalnigger newfaggots that have no business being anywhere near anime-styled media, and they're only playing these because in china video game = looks like a jap cartoon
Them complaining about gacha monetization of all things shows they don't even want a weeaboo game, they want domestically produced CoD with a web-novel plot
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recycle the other thread, retards
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>>1544398
hmmm, nyo.
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>>1544374
I beg, no plead you to prove me wrong with a better monetization option then,
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Wow. They really are a chinkshill site and they make it so obvious. Sucks up to Chinese games. Won't allow any western or popular games that makes more to be count as "gacha". Also tries to push Japanese gacha games off the site while calling chinkshit gacha.
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>>1544443
r/hoyogaming is THE cesspool among reddit cesspools
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>>1544443
Bro stop browsing reddit already, that website has less organic traffic per subreddit than your average /vg/ general
Find a niche subreddit that isn't botted to shit, and most posts will have 3 or 4 comments over the course of months. Youtube videos posted by redditors for reddit get like 50 views. That site legit has no people, you're viewing paid content.
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>>1544213
>gayshit player
>calling other players cucks
>using a camera cuck MC as his reaction picture
lmao
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>>1544411
just cosmetics
there
now stop being a pathetic shill for gacha, that's embarrassing as fuck
dota did that
fortnite does that
no one ever tells them it's wrong, plus the developers made good money out of it
if your game is actually good, then you dont have to monetize stats and gameplay
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>>1544473
iirc honor of kings also does that, and it still makes more than genshin
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>>1544312
I understand your hatred and resentment against mihoyo and gacha in general and then you write "DLC model as monetization". Sorry are you retarded or what? Do you really think DLC is a good thing? That stuff is not that different from microtransactions.

>>1544369
Let's be serious, the repetitive progression of gacha comes from those ingenious ideas that the Japanese implemented in JRPG to extend the game time, the only difference is that they were standalone games so you only paid for them once.
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>>1544473
I'm not even part of this stupid discussion, but I really want to gloat, so here it is
>they want domestically produced CoD
told you so

That's why western male players that also hate mihoyo don't want to ally with you chinks, you are completely delusional and don't belong in the weeb sphere. If you had the power you'd destroy everything, including the games we would like
Maybe if you want honor of kings, you should just play that instead of trying to kill all gacha developers hoping another tencent takes their place?
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>>1544477
Way to miss the point.
>western male players
Lmao you don't belong anywhere, your culture is destroyed, your country treats you like second class citizens and you let all that happen. Now shut up while people with spines are talking.
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>>1544476
>Do you really think DLC is a good thing?
Then devs have no obligation to provide updates for existing games after getting money from the first release. DLC is no different from the old expansion packs.
What you want to oppose is shitty half-assed beta + DLCslops such as Paradoxslops, then bargain with the devs, refuse to buy shitty 70$ beta games and their overpriced DLCs. But DLC as a model is sounded, because fundamentally it has CLEAR PRICE TAG, not GAMBLING shit as gacha model
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>>1544489
I belong here, you come to my website and make demands, learn your place you diminutive yellow creature.
How about you stop funding hoyo games before you talk mad shit you fucking chink?
"People with spines" my ass.
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>takes a small skeleton crew to operate
>doesn't need writers
>doesn't need to advertise
>doesn't need to make new characters
>can just copy from the anime/manga for new units
>makes billions
Dokkan is the true king and I wish mihomofags would stop pretending like they're #1.
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>>1544489
don't bother with that retard
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>>1544499
DBZfags are something else.
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>>1544509
That's dokkanchad to you scum. This is a dokkanchad run board so be happy we let you discuss here.
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>>1544513
That Cooler probably had some of the best animations I've seen in that game.
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>>1544497
unless you're nips then no its not "your" website lmao
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>>1544522
lol
by that logic your entire chinkosphere belongs to DARPA because they invented the internet
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wuwa lost
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>>1544526
The fate of all empty world gachas post covid.
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>>1544513
tell me about the time Blue Archive stole the top grossing spot from you, dokkancuck
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What's wrong with these chinkshill awards? How can you nominate games not optimized for mobile for a "mobile" award? Are chink games not good enough for any other category?
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>>1544572
Is just geoff wanking off hoyoverse.
Probably didn't put hsr because he didn't remember it. Genshin because of autopilot and zzz because new.
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>>1544576
Yeah. Think of Da Wei as the Hideo Kojima of Chinese gacha.
Peak favoritism. Don't think too much into it.
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>>1544493
I agree that DLC is nothing more than old expansions and that in theory it is also a good way to extend the life of a game but the problem is that it is a system that has been abused over time. Gacha, DLC, lootboxes, etc. are all systems that need to be regulated because a virtual good, especially when it is just an icon and some numbers, cannot have such absurd costs and in addition you do not even own that good because after a game reaches EoS or the company goes bankrupt the player loses everything unless a standalone offline version is released. In my opinion, no offense, you see the problem only in black and white when in reality we are in a gray area, gacha cannot be destroyed as well as microtransactions, there is too much money at stake for both companies and governments. The only thing you can hope for is that players, whales especially, open their eyes and realize that they are just ATMs for their beloved developers. If you really want to destroy then you have to try to prove that FOMO is a mental illness and these companies are basically taking advantage of the mentally ill.
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>>1544572
>not optimized for mobile
what do you mean by that? i ran genshin on some old hardware, was surprised how well it runs. hate it all you want, but it's pretty optimized, fucking blue archive chugs on everything, and it's just fucking menus
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>>1544583
I understand, that why I said there must be an active struggle against low quality games. At first:
For gacha: refuse sunkcost, limited top-up, request a refundable (warranty) period
For PC/console: do not buy unfinished game full price, attacking blatant false marketing, shill reviewers

And then gacha domination will naturally disappear, because guess what, when abnormal profits rate of gacha disappears, then whether devs choosing/implementing gacha or not, is just the preference of userbase, and not because of market forces (like the situation currently at CN, huge number of new games are gacha).
Our goal is to remove the current abnormal profits rate of gacha games (due to brainless slurpers), and by doing that destroy the advantage (for devs) of gacha over other models.
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>>1544588
>due to brainless slurpers
it has nothing to do with brainless slurpers and everything to do with rising Gini coefficients and a gulf between haves and have nots.
I have a net worth of 900k, well actually 906k as of today and $300 bucks to me is literally nothing at all. It's air.

poorfags like you have no voice or vote and no one even cares you can shit up a tiny niche forum as much as you want but it doesn't matter.
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>>1544596
You're a not slurpers because people like you only mattered in days of small gacha.
But for a gacha like Genshin, with millions of active players, slurpers are the faggots that buy BP+Monthly+Reset Double top up. Imagine having such army of slurpers while doing minimal level of investment, could net you insane level of profits, comparing to just single fee $70 of AAAs.
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>>1544631
In that case it's not really a case of you being against gacha since that seems like mihomo got there first and used network effects to reach critical mass and then coasts by with subscription based SAAS payment model which is what monthly is.

I'll keep it short.

I have a few minutes a day to play games mostly on mobile and I wouldn't mind if there was more competition.
I actually do get what you're saying on how mihoyo games are lazy. They kind of are.

What game should I be throwing money at?
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>>1544637
That's your personal choice, why should you ask me?
On the large scale, it's market forces that determined, you said you can throw $300 like air, but the mass won't. For example, Wuwa 1.1 revenue was great, but Wuwa 1.2 revenue directly nosedived fucking hard (outside of top 200 iOS), it's because Wuwa customers are much less stupid than Genshit. They knows which quality (Zhezhi) corresponded to which price. Meanwhile, Genshit 4.8 while also declined but on a lesser scale, despite Emilie design is ugly as fuck compared to previous characters.

https://activeplayer.io/genshin-impact/
The current active players of Genshin is 60 mils, even fraction of them are slurpers, the tendency of mihoyo to half-assed thing is fucking terrible.

Eventually, our goal is to force capable devs like Kuro to quit the gacha models (by refusing to buy shitty products) and make real video games. Mihoyo could keep the slurpers all they want.
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>>1544643
P.S.
At the moment, there always exists a voice of demanding to change the 80/160 banner mechanics to full guarantee (without any chance of getting off-rate character, so what you only get what you pay for) in CN Wuwa playerbase. Let see how Kuro will do (Snowbreak already changed). Most slurpers are already playing Genshit and they won't change game, so Kuro shouldn't think about getting those fags from Genshit.
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>>1544643
maybe I'll try wuwa heard something about grinding for echos and grinding is not something I ever want to do again really. might as well grind irl.

but the points that I would like to bring up is that with inflation killing the poor in the west and unemployment in the east average people have less to spend and thats why you see more gacha stuff. there's been a huge transfer of wealth upwards last 2 decades and I don't know how it ends, only that I have to try to ride it as best I can.

second point is if you implement these measures I actually think it hurts Kuro more.
For example Apple is a company that screws over their consumers the most but because of that they also have the most dry powder to throw at the wall or to buy out competition.
Unfortunately that's just how the real world works the better product does not usually win.
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>>1544650
Fucking CN isn't even supporting Wuwa, ffs. Why would they change it?
First they fucked up the Crownless cinematic, and haven't supported Wuwa since launch. Only use it as anti-hoyo cannon fodder.
Fuck them, seriously.
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>>1544654
>second point is if you implement these measures I actually think it hurts Kuro more.
That's there problem, not the problem of players. We don't fucking need another Mihoyo.
I think we can stop here, because our fundamental difference in positions, you are putting yourself in the position of devs, but I only care for my position as players.
If all new games are shit, then I will just play old games. I won't tolerate such blatant cashgrabs of gaming industry further.
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>>1544654
You don’t really have to grind for echoes. I’ve played since day 2 and haven’t spent time grinding outside of when I decide to explore.
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>>1544655
Because there are Black Myth!?
Why should they support a gacha over their own new AAA game?
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>>1544655
>not supporting mix toilet trash
>only used as anti hoycuck cannon fodder.
based chinks
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>>1544655
>>1544659
P.S.
And as I said, all slurpers are still playing Genshit.
So CN Wuwa playerbase mostly consists of non-slurpers, therefore they will find anything to bargain with devs for the best deal.
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>>1544657
one of the problems with capitalism is that good hearted generous businesses die and jewish blackhearted ones not only live but thrive
I get what you're you're trying to do but the game is just not played that way.

also I ran out of old games to play
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Me? I still support the old Japanese gacha. Not into these shiny new Chinese games. I think the gameplay holds up I'm not into fancy graphical improvements but less focus on gameplay.
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>>1544662
>So CN Wuwa playerbase mostly consists of non-slurpers
So people that don't spend, got it.
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>>1544677
and that's a good thing

i think we need to stop the whole hoyoslurper mentality, that companies need to make 100m a month, it's pretty cringe unless you own a part of the company. poor people rooting for rich people getting richer, you don't even benefit because hoyo puts maybe 1/10000th of it back into improving the game, the rest into advertising and investors
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Hoyo bad but other mixed genders are good actually.
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>>1544584
>lying this blatantly
Shits run like shit even on SD870 device. Need to crank down the graphic setting to not toast the phone.
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>>1544694
Why shouldn't investors, especially early ones get the lion's share of the earnings?
The guys who believed in hoyo when no one else did and wrote that first check made it all happened in the first place. Second and third capital raises too.
Companies do not belong to the consumers.
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>>1544697
No, they are all trash, mihomo is just the biggest pile of this trash
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>>1544711
>Why shouldn't investors, especially early ones get the lion's share of the earnings
>putting words in my mouth
learn to read esl, i never said such a thing, i'm talking about rabid fanboys that brag about a companies' earnings they have no part in.
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Hoyo bad but i don't wanna invest in low tier shovelwares actually.
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>>1544709
>not toast the phone.
it's a SoC, its going to heat up regardless of what you do. That has nothing to do with optimization, that's like saying when i turn on my oven too cook, the oven gets hot, well of course. Bad optimization means, game runs like shit on high end hardware.
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>>1544716
Why should i take part when the game isn't on life support unlike yours?
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>>1544722
dude just shut up, i don't even play wuwa, i play genshin, you don't even get my point
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>>1544677
Then explains the nosedive from Jinhsi Changli period?
If all people didn't pay then where did the revenue of 1.1 come from?
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>>1544729
Uooohhh lolibaba android sexooo ToT
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>>1544716
yeah salesposting is kind of gay
it's also the original post in this thread
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>>1544726
>i play genshin
My condolences
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>>1544729
>1.1 revenue
Lol, what fucking revenue?
Shit didn't make anything even with its first more hyped characters >>1541139
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>>1544729
>That low after blowing tons of money advertising on Tiktok

Not looking good.
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>>1544729
why'd they go with the ugly nerd character, lol that's pitiful. Are they going to go for another homo banner too. Even homoverse has comes to terms, that sexy characters are what sells
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Why do Hoyofans have so much of a victim complex?
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>>1544763
>sexy characters are what sells
Xianyun and Chiori fucking flopped
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>>1544768
xianyun is ugly
there I said it
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>>1544768
>chart showing zzz
>natlan consisting of mainly girls
stop trying to defend troon designs, both those characters were shit, they still did well, now imagine if they were as strong as troonvillette
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>>1544773
>they still did well
A hoyo staff member clearly said that they were devastated about how few people actually pulled for Xianyun
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>>1544775
yes you're totally right, zzz should just be men and gay guy banners, and natlan should have shown only men, hoyoverse should hire you, they would be making 10x the revenue
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>>1544756
>Lol, what fucking revenue?
Did you fucking read the post I reply to? He said they are "people that don't spend"
And I show otherwise, or should only people who slurp like hoyoslurpers that considered spenders? Then fuck off, slurper
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>>1544675
>compassfag still alive after all these years
i missed you bro...
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>>1544694
Indeed. https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9137331513?pn=1 about the low revenue of 1.2
>The current big monthly card (Battle Pass) has a low cost performance
>I am too lazy to go online, who would sign a labor contract?
> Are all Mingchao players so rich? Don’t they want to draw the Shorekeeper? They don’t do the daily work of the monthly card and just go online and spend money?
> Black Myth will be out tomorrow, so I'll say goodbye to Mingchao for now
> Wrong, Mingchao players are not that lazy, they just run away if something goes wrong
>I'm holding it back anyway, and the monthly membership card won't run away. I'll renew it if there's improvement at the end of the version, and if not, just run away.
>The abyss has expanded to this extent, and everyone is watching. Others are not stupid.
>Do you think this monthly card weapon of Mingchao can be used? The weapon of Yuan's monthly card at Refinement 5 can reach 90% of the level of Refinement 1 special weapon, can Mingchao's Refinement 5 monthly card reach 80%? There is such a big difference, why don't I draw from the weapon pool? Yuan's big monthly card is largely due to the weapon pool.
>Why worry about Kuro? It's obvious that the current flow is within an acceptable range. If it really reaches the bottom, Kuro will take action, just like when Yinlin saved the day.
>If Kuro isn't in a hurry, why should the players be in a hurry?
>With Mi Chi (Mihoyo-type banner), I don’t want to recharge my monthly cards.
>This game is free, there is no trust at all, and they always make trouble to test the bottom line
>Why do you start paying attention to the revenue after playing for a while? Even if Kuro is good, it has nothing to do with the players. Besides, he can't be good. You should play it yourself. If you think the game is good, you can buy a small monthly card. If not, you can play it for free and run away at any time. Anyway, don't spend a lot of money. Why care about the revenue and the manufacturer?
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>>1544824
So this image is quite apted for current Wuwa playerbase (because most of them are Genshin quitters)
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still playing hoyogames though, stay mad chigger
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>>1544824
Mingchao EOS status?
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>still being a cuckold though, stay mad chigger
ok tell your wifes boyfriend (tranny self-insert) i said hi
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>>1544844
So am I. I enjoy NTR and findom.
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>>1544844
we know tranny cuck...
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>>1544729
Jesus Christ I expect it to be low but not that low.
Despite that, I think it is a good thing. I believe every gacha should go through a period of abyss where they're near EoS, like Snowbreak did, that way it can focus on what really matters, differentiate itself, and not get cocky like mihomo.
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Brother Wei won't cater to you unless you man up and stop being rebellious.
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>>1544880
>should go through a period of abyss where they're near EoS
Mingchao is just in its 1.2, anon...
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>>1544729
Wuwa's revenue is bad but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be. Over the week it's still a 1:4 ratio compared to ZZZ, which is the same as ZZZ 1.0's ratio so nothing really changes. See pic, Wuwa made ~880k$ while ZZZ make about $3.3 mil.
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>>1544844
why is it always westcuck that shit on chink yet play chinkgame?
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>>1544892
Am I talking about ZZZ? I am talking about how Wuwa are not slurpers, if characters quality is great, then they paid, but if it isn't then they don't.
Players are not slurpers, is a reality, and not empty motto, as the chart had shown and forum sentiments had displayed >>1544824
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>>1544902
>if characters quality is great, then they paid, but if it isn't then they don't
They didn't pay for Jiyan
They didn't pay for Yinlin
They didn't pay for Jinhsi
They didn't pay for Changli
They aren't paying for Zhezhi

So maybe the quality just isn't there, perhaps?
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>>1544914
by pay you means slurp
people are playing Black Myth now, does Wuwa deserve a better revenue than what Black Myth will ever made (no matter how many copies it sold)?
I repeat, the world don't need more slurpers, if you want to slurp, then stay with mihoyo.
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>>1544881
>TrannyWei
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>>1544914
so where did the revenue come from?
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>>1544912
>China's first major AAA, and that it actually looks really good
>tons of people around the world hyped for it, even at the top of the steam chart
>"b-but for the same money of the game's price you can support mihoyo for 6 months!"
They're really a lost cause, huh?
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/gfg/ trannies have been relentless in attacking quartz
https://space.bilibili.com/9922322/dynamichttps://tieba.baidu.com/p/9137796198?pn=6
thankfully, that shit wont make their game alive anymore
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9137798163?pn=3
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41338782&page=2&rand=719
a reminder: they've always been cucks, even in gf1
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9138047601?pn=2
i can't fucking wait to see more cuckoldry in their game. and before the faggots say otherwise, whatever i say becomes truth. they are not worthy of any respect, and i genuinely hope /gfg/ gets raided daily by people i can help mold.
they can also make this easier and just give their address for me to clean those vermin up. ;)
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>>1544936
>>1544006
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>>1544936
>a grown man typed this and has spent the past 30 minutes or so going to every general possible on /vg/ to spam it
I think GFL already beat you bro.
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>>1544929
mindbroken by dawei, they are literally like wow players, or mmo players in general, they say the same shit. for X amount of money, I get Y amount of hours playtime, not factoring in, that it's all braindead repetitive tasks, that are not worth your time.
quality gameplay > quantity doing mindless shit
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>>1544936
why are nu-snowbabs like this?
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>>1544954
>its snowbreak fault
Do you understand he doesn't even play the game and is on every /vg/ thread spamming this, right?
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>>1544957
Someone with GFL living rent free like that is probably part of the CN exodus unless you have something else to point at.
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>>1544954
retard
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>>1544936
>/gfg/ trannies have been relentless in attacking quartz
But why?
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>>1544954
>snowbreak out of nowhere
saar shay
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>>1544961
I was never wrong when i said gayshit had one of the worst writing i ever saw in a video game. But now i know exactly why, is literally written by a tranny.
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>>1544967
Trannies and fat dykes
There will never be something good coming out from that devilish combination
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>>1544962
>>1544966
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>>1544968
True, but i never knew chink devs was infected with the same woke virus we have here in the west
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>>1544972
Does a healthy man suffer if he's infected by a cold?

Does a man with AIDS suffer if he's infected by a cold?

The West has ideological AIDS. It doesn't genuinely matter how powerful gays and trannies are by themselves. The only thing that matters is how good our immune system is at keeping them in check, or whether we even acquiesce to them and boost them.
China is the former.
The West is the latter.

There is no reason for worry. You are retarded if you think this inherently signals bad outcomes (as said, it only does it in the "infection+AIDS" case).
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>wrote retarded analogy
>calls anyone retarded
bugmen moment
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>>1544972
It's mainly in Shanghai. You can think of Shanghai as the California of China.
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It's over, Wukong won't get any fanarts because he doesn't appeal to female players
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Based femcels.
>[Love and Deep Space] Lawson kneeled down for the controversial title during the linkage, and blamed the system's default setting
>Preliminary summary:
>Recently, Lawson Convenience Store collaborated with Byou’s “Love and Deep Space” to launch a variety of game peripherals. However, in Rosen’s official customer service, someone discovered that Rosen addressed players as Mr./Ms. Hunter. Since the game is a B-game with a female protagonist and no male protagonist, and is officially banned from corruption, the official title for players has always been "Miss Hunter". In theory, the person "Mr. Hunter" does not exist, so the joint name quickly Caused controversy and inflammation. Players went to Rosen's official account and asked for corrections and an apology under every Weibo post.
>During this period, Lawson did come out and apologize
No homoshit allowed.
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>>1545081
Why are dudes called incels when they do the same level of gatekeeping for their waifu games?
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>>1545080
homofujos are so funny
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>>1545082
Feminism and jews. Basically.
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>>1544961
how do you have a gay crush on someone of the opposite sex, unless that's supposed to be a male...
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>>1544763
Zhezhi and Yao are fillers and had no role in the plot. Zhezhi's problem is that she's yet another dps/sub dps and from what I've tried and read she has slow gameplay, there are those who prefer to use a 4* rather than her for rotation reasons. It doesn't help that many are waiting for characters like Scar, Phrolova, Genshu Li and Camellya and because Kuro uses the same logic as Hoyo we will have to wait again for plot reasons.
>>1544767
What do you expect from people who are satisfied with the QoL of 5.0 and the very generous 5* obsolete characters selector? And let's not talk about the pyro traveler, according to the leaks it will be released at the end of the AQ of natlan and the only reason that comes to mind is that it could have a decent kit and hoyo wants to avoid something like dendro traveler in order to push the sales of the new characters.

>>1544768
Xianyun is anemo without grouping capabilities and for a niche gameplay, it could have been an alternative to Kazuha.
Chiori is geo and we all know that after physical it is the most neglected element.
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>>1545081
>femcel
It's yumeSTACIES for you, chud.
>>1545082
Because you're all bark and no bite, akin to something you've sworn to destroy. Oh the irony.
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>>1544694
because hoyofags are mentally ill
they dont even put back a significant % of the profits earned back into the games, but hoyofags keep throwing their money to get cucked
at this point, if you are looking for a waifu gacha game, you are just asking to be cucked by the self-inserts of the developers and scammed out of your money, since that is the industry standard set by hoyo
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>>1544929
...well may that comment at bilibili is a sarcasm of falseflager
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>>1544912
holyshit chinks are subhuman, and i say that with upmost sincerity
an actual game that has effort put into it, isnt timegated or paywalled, doesnt have endless slavemine grinding, can be completed start to finish at your pace
>b-b-but i cant log in every day for 6 months to do the same stupid shit i have been doing my entire life and throw my money into scams!
entire nation of worthless subhuman gachaniggers who have only played scams their entire life, so they think putting money into an actual game where you arent getting scammed, is the scam...
i am fucking sure i saw this same opinion about ex astris during its launch period, and that game flopped and didnt even get its dlc
>>1544929
yes
100%
even shiteater tendies who play kiddie slop arent getting scammed this hard
at least they get to play something for a low price instead of throwing away nearly $6000 to complete a single character and then wait for the next character to spend $6000 on
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>>1545081
kek, so it's just male gachaniggers who are the bottom of the barrel trash who are happy to spend their hard-earned money just to get cucked
not a single male gachanigger has the balls to actually boycott gachajewnigger developers who do shit like this
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>>1545193
I stopped playing all hoyo games once that bullshit started and I have not and will not touch their other games.
If any other gacha game I play does it, I drop it. It is simple as that.
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>>1545188
>i am fucking sure i saw this same opinion about ex astris during its launch period, and that game flopped and didnt even get its dlc
Ex Astris deserved it, if it's a polished game like Reverse Collapse then it will be received with raved reviews
>didnt even get its dlc
Hypergryph is just a coward for not committed to improve the game. At this moment, I even doubted about the quality of Endfield, even if I still play and enjoy Arknights

Reverse Collapse only got attacked because of Yuzhong's NTR shit, if Yuzhong wasn't stupid enough to put that NTR plot in GFL2, his Reverse Collapse wouldn't get so much hate.
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>>1545086
Because genshin desings aren't actually that sexy for doujins.
Aside from a few exceptions like Shenhe, Ganyu, OG Mona, all the others honestly have boring designs.
Artists always try their best to make them look hot, and people are gaslighted by it, but genshin just can't compete with the likes of for example, Blue Archive.
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i only hate mihoyo for standardizing the 50/50 system and making everyone take after them and add a weapon gacha too or else the unit is extremely gimped compared to its full potential, it existed before but at least some devs would stick to either character gacha or weapon gacha and not both at the same time
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>>1545219
50/50 with carry over pity is alright, there are worse contender in this. 0.6 rates and gems scarcity are the things that make them bad.
>extremely gimped
No. Weapon banner is a scam and any informed person knows this.
>not both at the same time
FGO and epic seven are pretty famous for doing this. If you wanna hate then at least don't be stupid.
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>>1545063
Can you reason and articulate why you think that?
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>>1545079
Did the speech even work for Dawei?
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>>1545287
people were selling their accounts after that speech
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>>1545213
>Blue Archive
God I hate how that shit took over the doujin scene.
There's already tons of original doujins set in a high-school/real life setting, so unlike, say, FGO, BA doesn't offer much of a break from the meta. I'll even go as far as to say that the average BA girl looks LESS appealing than your average hentai heroine.
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>>1545299
Agreed, it sucks everything else had to die for BA.
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>>1545230
Stop being retarded, they all suck and are kike as fuck. The only decent monetization for a gacha is when the money making stuff for the company is on selling the skins and has banners like Snowbreak where it has 100% chances for both character and weapons and also a way to farm dupes for characters.
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>flopbreak out of nowhere
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snowbreak more like mindbreak haha
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>>1545277
>u-umm...respond?
(You)
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>>1545308
>>1545310
>can't refute anything i said about how greedy those gacha are compared to gachas that only sell skins
>malds every time snowbreak is mentioned for whatever reason, even tho their gacha system is actually very good and allows to farm dupes
>chinks said the game made over 20 millions last month with those system on pc+mobile. But you are more worried about the company making money over the player satisfaction with the monetization
This is why hoyocucks like you are the joke of every gacha community
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>>1545315
bwo I was making fun of the hoyodrones...
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>>1545317
sorry then. i quoted both comments after i was done writing that post
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>>1545320
sorry, who's malding now?
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>>1545322
?????
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>>1545315
I agree, AL and Snowbreak are probably the only two gachas currently where I can get every character for free for minimal payments (like the $6~ or so monthy pass). Most of the cost is skins and then you can just skip ones you don't like since you aren't missing out on something like a entire character. Deciding to try out a gacha where paying money for the characters and being forced to pick and choose who I want just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.
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hoyofags have normalized the worst things in gacha, especially the "roll 7 copies of a character and 5 copies of a weapon to complete ONE character" bit and tolerating the ugliest overdesigned characters, both females and males
and this includes all hoyofags; chinks, japs, mutts
now instead of making actual well-designed character, every single gachanigger developer shamelessly copies hoyo's designing trends too
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>>1545327
Exactly, i was about to mention Azur Lane as well, since a lot of people keep saying their monetization is also very good and is based around skins as well. But since i don't play AL, i choose not to because i don't the exact details of how their gacha work.
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>>1545331
For a newfag is it kinda rough and you will have to skip some banners in favor of others, but once you get established you can just roll willy nilly.
Generally the things to spend money on are skins, and secrets(5~ minute voiced scene with you doing something with one of the girls).
You do have to spend a little money to get some dock slots to hold all the girls since there are like 720~? or so now, but we are talking maybe like $20 to get enough to last you a while.
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>>1545330
>hoyofags have normalized the worst things in gacha, especially the "roll 7 copies of a character and 5 copies of a weapon to complete ONE character"
The worst part about this is when mechanics of the character are also locked behind this kind of shit. Garbage like that makes already a scummy practice, 10x more scummy
>tolerating the ugliest overdesigned characters, both females and males
That's femcels/tranny devs creating gay coded characters
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>>1545334
That still sounds good in my book. I really hope more gachas keep going after skin monetization over the stupid gambling addiction bullshit
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>>1545337
Yeah, like at most I spend $50-$150 on it a month depending on how much I like the skins. So when you compare it to a potential $400 every 6 weeks...those types of games just look more and more unappealing to spend money in.
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>>1545334
>slots
That shit is outdated as fuck, you don't have to worry about slots in nikke and ba and dupes are either irrelevant or easily farmable.
Surprisingly all three use the same exchange method for their character acquisition instead of pity and guarantee.
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>>1545348
>That shit is outdated as fuck,
I agree, and I think they should get rid of it, but keep in mind AL is a game from 2017. So a much different time than Nikke or BA.
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1 more week till we see if dawei's crying helps mihoyo or not
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>>1545354
More time to actually see the results
Nobody fucking cares about the first natlan characters because they look awful, and everyone will just wait for mavuika in 5.1
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>>1545358
if they all wait then they wouldnt need to whale at all lol
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>>1545330
also making every new character a limited banner
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>>1545327
Can definitely get all or most characters playing one of the best JP gacha for free. Just maybe the only thing preventing getting all is some very limited collabs.
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>>1545367
That's nice anon but I don't want to shit up a pvp gacha with my ping when the servers are in jp.
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>>1545358
>Nobody fucking cares about the first natlan characters
The first Natlan character is literally Gawr fucking Gura. She's going to shatter all kinds of records, and as Gura's number 1 fan, I’m definitely going for C6. With the top up reset, it won’t be too expensive, but honestly, I’d pay anything to play as Gawr Gura. My love for her is eternal.
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>>1545372
Americans and japs are so cucked it's not even funny anymore.
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>B-Bro Da Wei is crying
>L-Look they are making hot for (you) characters again
>T-They are going back to roots
>T-They are gonna do for (you) pandering again
>T-They are gonna to tell shiptrannies to fuck off
meanwhile in reality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIEjSsN_ePY

(You) need to be a retard to think Mihomo is doing for (you) pandering again, and if they do is probably a bait and switch like every character in Genshin, ZZZfags are the most delusional niggers I ever see, they think they are same level with true waifugames like Nikke, BA and AL, I wonder who is the self insert of pic related and Seth since we already know this >>1541397

>>1545372
Supporting Mihoyo while being a Holofag.... jesas, i am happy for you transition sister i hope you support Holostars too!
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https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/store/genshin-impact-xbox-pre-order-bundle/9P4QL80B759X/0017
you can now pre order genshin on xbox for $10
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>>1545354
wow I never bothered watching that speech but is that seriously what he said?
>so prideful
>can't hear others voices
maybe I would've believed his remorse the slighest bit if it wasn't for
>figure out which are the true voices of the travelers
so hes tired of listening to all the criticism and just wants to hear the drones kiss his fucking ass KEK
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>>1545377
>Create the most sexy character since Mona was released
>Instantly make her shipbait with faggy furry twink
I almost got baited to play this shit by this faggots spaming it on my general
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>>1545377
Holy shit, is that an ass jiggle?
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>>1545382
nice try baggot but your artists are already drawing for zzz
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>>1545384
Yeah, the other girl the released has some too. Pretty good bait to get coomers to shill the game. Then cuck them immediately
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>>1545377
She's used goods anyway
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>>1545382
>I almost got baited to play this shit by this faggots spaming it on my general
They did the same shit in my general before they got cucked lmao.
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>>1545377
>make an actual sexy character
>make her shipbait
>now porn of her is beginning to include the catboy more and more
I fucking hate mihomo.
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>>1545377
What was the point of the dating sim shit if they are going to cuck you anyways?
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>>1545390
wuwabro...
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>>1545395
they know their audience, unironic cuckolds
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>>1545395
They learned from Genshin (Noelle hangout and the Mika thing later) that their audience doesn't care.
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>>1545377
And gayshitters still tries to sell this garbage for waifu players LMAO
>>1545395
tranny devs and players, pls understand
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>>1545385
>nice try baggot but your artists are already drawing for zzz
Lets see, your shipbait prostitute got 412 images on Gelbooru in the lapse of one month and 8 days and a alt of my beloved Kanna got 1288 images in the lapse of 2 months, but wait Professor Niyaniya in this moment have 456 images, a fucking loli npc have more fanart than your retarded whore and this character was showed 10 days AFTER your prostitute, also you have ZERO presence in the comiket, you got like 5 new doujinshis and just two of them are scanned on sadpanda, you dont even have dedicated top tier 3D animators on the release of your game, at least /gig/ers in the begining have people like Shirakami you dont even have that, and if you want to look porn of Jane 70% of her fan art is being railed by Seth or ganbanged by niggers.
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>>1545418
>and if you want to look porn of Jane 70% of her fan art is being railed by Seth or ganbanged by niggers.
cuckverse had one job and they somehow fucked that up too.
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>>1545385
>imagine defending this cuck shit
kekaroo
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>>1545433
>pegging
GIWITW
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>>1545433
Same shit happened with Clorinde
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>>1545397
Probably the reason why they hired waterkuma.
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Honkai: Star Rail has won Best Storytelling and Hoyoverse won Best Developer at the PocketGamer: Mobile Game Awards 2024

...
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>>1545551
waifukeks, ww@???
next you're gonna say the award is rigged because that's your only excuse
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>>1545551
>the PocketGamer: Mobile Game Awards 2024
???????
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>>1545567
Ten Dates chads... how could we have lost....
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>>1545551
>>1545564
>>1545567
>>1545573
Sit down, be humble.
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>>1545564
Anyone can make an award. Even every sellout that would give the spots away for money. What backs up the legitimacy of this nonsense award? Other than they shill hoyo so it's legit to you?
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>>1545585
>strawman
>lowkey admits that the company that he supports is too broke to advertise themselves while providing less content than hoyo
i accept your concession
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>>1545593
>too broke to advertise themselves while providing less content than hoyo
Cope. Imagine thinking hoyo has content and not using all their money on advertisements.
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>>1545418
>a month old series couldnt compete against 3 years old series
wow
remind me how well did BA do during its first month?
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>>1545593
not OP but
>current year
>still cares about the opinions of big media
>as if any sort of "awards" isn't just a popularity contest
>as if companies can't just essentially buy awards from them anyway
I bet you believe the monkey game is misogynistic because the media tells you so, don't you?
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>>1545643
Bro just look at the “competition” >>1545567
Like what the fuck is this?
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I know it's not gacha but CN females really hate Black Myth. They are making a list of people playing it to block. Look at how they talk about it on Weibo, it's like Wukong just stole their job, their men and their future.
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>>1545733
Women NTRed by a monke... kek
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>>1545733
>I know it's not gacha
and not even mobile. Why are chinkshills so obsessed with shilling?
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>>1545733
so we can blame them for fontaine and zzz combat? There is nothing inherently "male" about wukong, there are femcels in the west going to play it, just like they play elden ring and whatever fotm soulslop. Is it because it's not braindead combat they hate it?
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>>1545733
I miss the time when women was not a thing in video games and the very few who played back then knew their place
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I can't see this guy selling bad, Genshin September revenue will be through the roof, kek
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>>1545751
He's cool. But I can see that he doesn't appeal to woman.
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>>1545751
Looks like a faggot theatre kid
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>>1545564
I can understand Best developer because their games don't have bugs and if there are they try to fix them as soon as possible but I couldn't understand Best storytelling until I saw this >>1545567, there was basically no competition.

>>1545750
Maybe it should be more: "I miss the time when women was not a thing in every sector and the very few back then knew their place".

>>1545751
I agree, he seems to be quite popular, maybe he's another self-insert.
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>>1545733
it is related to gacha
chink gachaniggers are cattle who literally do not want to play anything but gacha
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>>1545578
>losing to monopoly
holy based
mihomo needs to be humbled and bullied out of the market
>>1545751
looks like another faggot who will cuck you out of your self-insert """waifu"""
enjoy your fetish, anon
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Mihoyo-affiliated doxxing group got exposed in China
https://weibo.com/5044281310/5069813057061147

>In the spring of 2021, Yang Feng, a high school student, complained about the benefits offered by Genshin. He uploaded a video to the internet criticizing the game. He had previously made comments or complaints about other games he played

>Soon afterward, he was doxxed. His personal information was copied and pasted under the video. Yang said that he was bombarded with messages and calls. A doctored photo of his ID was made into a vulgar video and distributed on a certain platform. According to Yang, the perpetrator called himself/herself a “Xianjia Army” and doxxed him and cyberbullied those with different opinions on Genshin in order to protect the game and its developer, miHoYo.

>According to Yang’s account, between November 2021 and early 2023, someone pretended to be him on social media platforms and harassed his teachers and classmates. Someone sent him corrosive chemical drugs and even threatened to send him drugs and have the drug police come after him. Yang said that his parents’ personal information, workplace, and educational background were also doxxed. Someone even sent him a picture of the front door of his house. Yang speculated that the perpetrator wanted to intimidate him into giving in, backing down, and going offline, but he refused to compromise.
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>>1545800
hoyofaggotxissies, our dirty secret is being exposed
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>>1545396
>shitting up wuwa general everyday with cuck shit
>get actual cuck shit in genshit
>they all disappear into the void.
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>>1545395
Because their writers enjoy shitting on the players while getting paid for it and to their suprise, their audience enjoy it too.
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>>1545832
Their audience, that cares about this stuff, just want to own “self-inserters”
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>>1546050
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>>1545800
What was Mihoyo's reaction? A serious company would have already condemned such behavior but after seeing Dawei's "tears" it would not be surprising if they did nothing.
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>>1545751
>homos banners ever selling good
Just a reminder that Neuvillette flopped being the most OP character in the game and the most shilled one. This faggot looking manlet will not be different.
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>>1546050
>>1546055
What the fuck did they expect? Do they think women play anime shooting games?
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>>1546050
>>1546055
Holy fucking shit, imagine attacking the majority of your player base for the game you work on. There is no way this faggot still at his job, right?
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>>1546050
>>1546055
hmm I wonder why the chinese gacha industry is dying...
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>>1545848
>just want to own “self-inserters”
Ironic since the characters are a tranny self insert of the devs. Nice fucking Karma hit for gayshitters kek
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>>1546056
silence is golden
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>>1546062
See but that is fine since they aren't herto relationships (most of the time), or have a male dev using a female character as their self-insert.
So it is based, way better than some icky incel. That is probably how they will dismiss it, probably.
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>>1546064
>tranny hoycuck enjoy tranny devs self insert
join the 41% faggot
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>>1546067
>icky incel
Yes retard, I am totally advocating for them and not making fun of them.
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>>1545800
0 surprises here, Mihomo probably even pays money for people to not only shill, but attack anyone who criticize them
>>1546050
>>1546055
Saw the gameplay for this game on youtube, looks like shit. But how is the game doing? Especially after this community manager retarded comment
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You ever notice how whenever someone suffers from gacha they always mention they play Genshin? Probability of suffering increases more the more hoyo games they play.
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Azur Lane is getting hit with the NTR drama by concept artist
Maybe Manjuu and Mihoyo aren't different after all
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New image teaser for Project KV, new game project from isakusan, former BA writer who wrote some of the best stories from.
Seemed to be school girls + swords this time instead of guns.
More info, probably gameplay on Sept 1
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>>1546105
>not official art
>If you hadn't helped me, I would've been in real trouble... Oh! Some got on your clothes! You'd better get changed before they're all sticky, okay? I-I'll show you to a private room!
I love forced drama.
Nys is a retard though.
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>>1546121
Nta, but who is Nys?
>not official art
I don't follow Azur Lane, but that is some kind of cuck edit or art made the guy responsible for your related pic?
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>>1546126
>Nta, but who is Nys?
Nys is the artist of said girl.
>I don't follow Azur Lane, but that is some kind of cuck edit or art made the guy responsible for your related pic?
The picture at the top of the one I replied to is something Nys drew for her release, he's done the same for the other 4 girls he's drawn for the game.
You can look at "2" and see the ahoge that the manjuus have
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>>1546055
>If a game explicitly says that it does not need female players, then it will lose this huge group of female fans. They will probably never have high-quality fans, theme-only games, tea parties, or CP exhibition streets.

I think i'm getting a clear picture why all these developers and publishers are obssessed with making mixed toilet games. They seem to be under the delusion that it's women that are carrying the game, and shilling for them, thus increasing it's popularity. Very similar to the west, where they constantly push woke games despite every single one failing, and blaming their failure on "racist men" refusing to buy or play it. Is this retard not aware snowbreak almost died and is now raking in tons of cash? I hope that's a woman, because if it's a man, he may aswell transition.
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>>1546132
Ok i get it now, is not something the game did, but the retarded cuck artist on his personal account or whatever. Manjuu should definitely be careful with cucks like him tho. For a waifu game, having these people working for you game is very dangerous and could end up damaging your game reputation for no reason. Is he still working for the company btw? If i was Manjuu i would fire him instantly
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>>1546143
Dunno, pretty sure Nys is a commissioned artist so he can't really be "fired" since its a commission and not an actual job.
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>>1546145
>commissioned artist
Yeah, that makes more sense. Makes it a lot easier for Manjuu not work with cucks like him in the future
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>>1546105
if you're still playing azur cuck at this point in time, you deserve to get cucked, fuck manjuu for making mixed toilet and joining the gacha cartel.
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>>1546148
western fanbase is unaware of how malicious chinese bad actors can be
meanwhile the chinese fanbase knows it well cause they are chinese themselves
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>>1546143
>>1546145 (me)
But yeah, its just him doing his own thing. Plus the entire premise of the event is that it is just (you) and the girls out in the middle of the desert doing a movie shoot. So if they are "humans" They aren't because of what I mentioned about 2 Where the fuck did they even come from.
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>>1546183
>male MC was deleted
Wonder if he got fired.
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>>1546186
probably because he identifies as she/her now
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>>1546188
....should have expected that at this point.
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>>1546183
>>1546188
damn, hoyo really is a hotbed of trannies, i refuse to believe this is a coincidence, there must have been jewish investment money
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>>1546139
I think the reason is simpler, to earn as much as possible so they think that making games for both genders is more profitable than focusing only on one gender, of course they are wrong. It is not impossible to make mixed toilet games but you have to make sure that the male characters do not interfere with the player character and his relationships with the female characters.

The West is now on the road to decline, they are giving more and more importance and power to minorities at the expense of the majority. If woke games fail the developers deserve it, unless you only want a small niche, you do not aim for a minority when you produce a game.
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>>1546061
i am more surprised it has survived this long
just goes to show how fucking pathetic chinks are
literal subhumans, no honor or shame, willingly accept being treated like dirt, willingly accept being scammed out of their money because they think investing in 0s and 1s for months or years is better than having fun playing better games
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>>1546188
Wouldn't it be better if these people identified themselves as dung beetles?
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>>1546069
you are speaking to that one esl shitskin/chinkcel in this thread who has retard tier reading comprehension and lashes out at anyone
or maybe it is a clever larp by an actual hoyo shill to paint critics as esl turdskins
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>>1546196
it is
anyone trying to convince you otherwise is straight up lying and hiding the existence of lgbtjewpedo+ infiltration in that company
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>>1546196
Would explain how they got the money to develop and perform to massive advertisement for Genshin during covid and HI3 always had middling revenue.
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>>1546196
>>1546215
https://youtu.be/zYunUsJf5uU?t=135
according to him there was some "angel investor" who gave them 1m yuan
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>>1546186
>>1546188
>40% are women
>the others are mostly tranny devs
grim
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>>1546213
>>1546215
To be fair here HI3 always was Yuritranny garbage, the only difference now is that they expanding their LGBT soup letter other than just the L. Getting that investment was probably their dream scenario for such a tranny company
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>>1546229
yep it's jewish
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>>1546183
>>1546188
Actually just fucking disgusting
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>>1546231
And there's fucktards that still have hope that natlan will be better
Mavuika is going to have an amazing character assassination, I can feel it
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>>1546255
What character? She will be a muscle head strong woman with a hidden sweet spot for whatever girl the devs choose.
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>>1546255
>And there's fucktards that still have hope that natlan will be better
Exactly, same cope was used in Floptaine when it was leaked that the entire region would only have 3 homos 5* characters. The region end up having non stop homo dragon shilling, both in story and powercreep.
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>>1546105
All me btw
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>>1546231
>>1546229
>>1546188
>>1546183
Part of me really wants to see what goes on in meetings in how they decide things.
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>>1546231
The others are beta males.
>>1546289
Fontaine had three 5* males and three 4* males, the problem is that they were all released consecutively except Gaming and Sethos. Navia would have been a better choice as Fontaine's first character instead of Lyney and Clorinde could have been released together with Neuvillette.

Regarding the plot, the traveler is practically useless, as well as the whole part about Navia. As always they put too much meat on the fire and they were not able to cook it well. I agree that Neuv is too strong in the story and that he practically acts as a deus ex machina but from a gameplay point of view he is a godsend since he is one of the easiest characters to build and that decently compensates for the lack of Kazuha.
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>>1546255
I can't wait to see how she gets ruined like the Almighty Raiden Hikikomori. They already gave Feixiao a shitty personality, I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing with Mavuika.
>>1546315
I'd be curious to see the meetings where they decide the banners, the bastards after the announcement probably read the comments online and laugh about it.
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>>1546317
>I agree that Neuv is too strong in the story and that he practically acts as a deus ex machina but from a gameplay point of view he is a godsend since he is one of the easiest characters to build and that decently compensates for the lack of Kazuha.
Problem is is every new female DPS is shit to shill this faggot dragon and every DPS rerun is not worth it because they release a powercreep so high that makes the others irrelevant.
>>1546326
>I can't wait to see how she gets ruined like the Almighty Raiden Hikikomori. They already gave Feixiao a shitty personality, I wouldn't be surprised if they did the same thing with Mavuika.
They will either give all the spotlight for the red dragon of this region or make her another cuck bait
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Did anyone find the tranny self insert dev for this fag character? That would give some really good laughs
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It seems chinks have done the impossible and managed to resurrect the dead shipgirl game that Manjuu killed. Looks like Azur Lane will have competition now.
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>>1546183
>>1546188
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>>1546336
I wouldn't be surprised if Arlecchino is the self-insert and all the characters surrounding her are just based off people in their life.
Might as well have groomers there too at this point.
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>>1546384
name?
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>>1546390
https://www.biligame.com/detail/?id=105722
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>>1546387
>Might as well have groomers there too at this point.
Is a question of time, just see Mr beast tranny friend
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>>1546336
Man, this dude was one big red flag, wasn't he. I mean, yeah, you could say Venti did it first, but he was nowhere near the most sexualized design in his own region unlike this guy
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>>1546334
Every hydro dps is fucked until further notice, neuvillette just sweeps and will sweep the floor with anyone
>b-but muh reactions, muh hydro appliance!
Some of the copes I've seen from childekeks and ayatofags
Who the fuck cares about that when neuvillette just evaporates everything with each charged attack?
And the same thing will happen to arletroon when xbalanque releases
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>>1546398
for me it was Collei, I remember when i first entered sumeru, and was like, wait why is she so covered up? especially since we just had yelan, then patch after patch it was nothing but dudes, we even got homos like kaveh.
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>>1546405
>homodragon shilling
All the fags at mihomo own bad dragons.
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>>1546406
The constant Rosaria nerfs didn't tip you off? Makes me wonder if that is when the team started being taken over.
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>>1546056
By not giving a fuck since the 1st anniversary opened their eyes to the fact they can do whatever they want and get away with it.
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>>1546384
Pretty based. I just hope they stick around instead of just giving the devs 1 month of false hopes.
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>>1546407
Been told Genshin had good writing. Guy who represents the game and its meta is a boring, emotionless dragon? Sounds bad.
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>>1546474
Who the fuck told you that? Even most genshitters think the writing sucks. There is a reason they have been begging for a skip button for years.
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>>1546409
People should had known ever since they censored the designs like Fishl leotard or changing panties for granny spats on CBT2.
Or when they made models transparent on CBT3 when you look at them from below. Speaking of that, the competition (like wuwa) also copied that and hasn't made sexy looking skins either, I wonder if its because is going to release on PS5.
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>>1546409
>nerf her tits 4 times, then slap what may as well be a burka on her for the big censorship update
God don't remind me. Speaking of nuns, though...I fear for a certain upcoming character in ZZZ. Think Watercoomer will at least try to keep her bust size intact?
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>>1546409
It was after the beta, when they first censored fischl.
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>>1546486
>I wonder if its because is going to release on PS5.
Stellar blade is on PS5. They are self censoring and the reason why is very obvious if you are reading this thread
>>1546502
Don't hold your breath, they already censored the other big titties girl
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>>1546515
To add to that, even if they add a character with big tits, it's going to be shipped with another character, or our sibling is going to butt in and prevent any interaction
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>>1546533
Yup, but no surprises coming from Mihomo. They just love to add cuckbait a few patches later
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>>1546540
Hey I'm just waiting for the patch where the FMC gets shipped with some furry so the MC can finally be totally cucked and alone.
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>>1546549
Go watch the intro for the bear guy and how Belle looks at him.
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>gachaniggers are so starved of good games, they have to play homo shilling garbage games from a yuritranny company funded by jews just to spend nearly $6000 on the self-inserts of the developers (if they want to max the character out with 7 copies and 5 copies) who absolutely HATE their players and yet make bank out of it every month
gacha industry is already dead
this is it, this is the future of gacha games
say what you want, but mihomo is extremely influential in the market
they keep setting trends that are eventually copied shamelessly by other spineless gachanigger developers instead of setting their own trends
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Nah, still not play cuckverse trash.
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>>1546231
only the english team
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>>1546554
>setting trends
mihomo can do all the gay stuff they want, the problem is everyone is now following along, even manjuu who i supported for so long is making a mixed toilet, rather than making azur lane 2. I guess we gotta give credit to love and deepspace devs who just did their own thing.
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>no playable males
>mixed toilet
???????????
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I uninstalled all gachashit from my devices. Finally, freedom. I would rather play stupid shit like Stumble Guys or Angry Birds that I can have fun with instead of spending even a single second of this.
>>1546560
>love and deepspace
Mad respect for those developers. They have balls of steel for putting that out. miHoMo would never.
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>>1546490
Embarrassing moment for weibo right now
China is proud of finally launching their first AAA and feminists don't have anything else to do than going to attack said game
Why aren't they playing gachaslop, huh? Unless...
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Gacha isn't dead, male pandering is. Get fucked, chinkcels.
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>>1546567
gachaniggers in chinkland are all subhumans
they finally get their first AAA game with a $60 price tag that has been widely received and can be completed start-to-finish without any paywalls or timegating, and all they can think about is how they cannot throw away $6000 on bi-weekly character banners so that they can continue to play the game like their favorite gachashit sloppa for months
i am starting to see exactly why people hate gachashit "games" and gachaniggers
these people have legit never played regular games that dont demand you log in daily to slave away in grind mines
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So is it possible to have a mixed game without the mixed toilet categorization? What about games released before this was a concept?
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>>1546563
And yet you still here on a dead thread on fucking /vmg/ another dead place about gacha games drama
>>1546574
t. tranny
>>1546581
They are all trash without any gameplay, you can barely call them games
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>>1546556
based
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>>1546581
I would argue sennen sensou aigis fits that description. There are a handful of male characters(all of which were free after like the first year of the game) which act as wingmen for the MC as he builds his harem.
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>>1546576
Feminist is really that big in china currently so anything that took the attention away from them is bad pratice that need to be buried.
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The chinkspies are lurking in this thread right now and they are making fun of the anti-GFfags here.
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1zvYceyEqp
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>>1546595
To nobodies surprise
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Speaking of GFL, I think it's pretty funny that they added coomer skins, oaths, and now even a nikke minigame, but I've heard practically nothing about them improving the story.
Adding all that shit targeted at coomers and waifufags seems kinda pointless without an increase in (you) pandering, especially with something like snowbreak just down the street.
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>>1546599
I've been saying the same thing, still holding onto female MC, you're still invisible, the girls hardly react to you at all. It's like their feminists devs are still clinging onto not making it fully (You) pandering. It's like BD2, it's full of coomer shit, but that alone won't save the game, even Azur Lane has stepped up (You) pandering, the thing that matters. Coomer pandering without (You) pandering, is just lite porn.
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>>1546595
?????? I don't see a single of those comments here. If it is just chinks grabbing posts in 4chan in general that is nothing new, they do it all the time as long it matches their point of view
>>1546599
That's the classic move when a game starts doing bad or starts flopping, just see Tower of Fantasy trying to add this kind of features years after.
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>>1546602
Exactly, you either go all in or just simply is not going to work.
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>>1546595
All me, btw
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how has cn reacted to hoyo cucking zzz players this patch with the rat?
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>>1546638
The ones who are playing zzz are already used to mihomo's cuck tendencies in the first place. Why would they complain if they're used to it?
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>>1546562
you cant deny they actually planned that but back down after someone leaked their initial draft for notGojo
their silence treatment since bilibili world event really shows a huge redflag
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>>1546638
they are laughing at how fast ZZZ hype dies
not even HSR dropped this fast
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>>1546595
must be embarrassing to be a gachanigger chink who has to read all this and realize what we really think of them
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i take it all the anti-tencent shilling has got to be from mihomo faggots because tencent monetizes their games differently and is still more successful than mihomo slop (which makes millions per month by scamming their players)
mihomo gachachinks only have "b-b-but muh gameplay" cope to run with, and even then, the gameplay is shallow and repetitive garbage
>>1546642
this
these mihomo gachaslurpers are already a lost cause
they used to put up with honktroon dykepact 3, and now they throw their money into the other three lgbtjewpedo+ friendly gachashit too
what we really need to see is what cn people who dont play mihomo gachaslop think about all this
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>>1546650
grim
there's no archons or emanators or wives to look forward to
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>>1546476
>Even most genshitters think the writing sucks
nah they think its the best shit ever and act like offended karens if you say you want to skip the trash dialogues
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>>1546677
Here's my take on Genshin's writing. Here's the thing, there's multiple levels to it:
World building: interesting lore for sure, with Archons' struggling with the Dragon Sovereigns of their world.
Story (the actual events that take place as you progress the story): Monstadt and Liyue: mid but serviceable; Inazuma: dogshit. Sumeru's dream arc: good; Sumeru afterward: mid. Fontaine: pretty good.
The scene writing: just. so. fucking. dogshit. Dialogues are unnatural word salads, pointless backstory, underutilization of playable characters. Paimon is a figurative cancer for being the Traveler's mouthpiece and regurgitating plot points constantly.
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>>1546677
>nah they think its the best shit ever
please understand, first people's gacha or video game ever, once upon a time, back in the 90s i though final fantasy 7 was the best thing ever, well at least it's still better than genshin's writing
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>>1546677
That is just the state of a braindead zoomer who just got, not just to their first gacha, but probably their first game ever. Gayshit must have one of the worst writing and story i have had the displeasure to endure in a video game ever, i legit cannot think of a game that bored me to death more than genshin shitpact
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>>1546688
>Sumeru's dream arc: good
Anon I can't take your post seriously after this
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>>1546255
Agreed too many redflags and I have zero faith on those subhumans
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>>1545377
>T-They are going back to roots
You say this like characters shipping ISN'T miHoYo's roots.
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>>1546716
that and yuritranny slop
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>>1546486
What wuwa did is take what was criticized most in Genshin and improve it and they left everything else the same. Kuro is doing a good job but if they had dared more maybe by now we would have Genshin Killer.
>>1546576
What you say is true but one of the problems of many AAA is that they don't last long and many times they don't have a great replayability. F2P games as a service suck, especially for monetization, but they satisfy the need of players to stay in game worlds that they are fond of and that they like. I haven't played Black Myth, so I can't judge it.
>>1546677
This thing is funny, if you try to comment negatively shortly after release people almost insult you. I noticed instead that now there are more people for example who think that Penacony is not this masterpiece of writing at all and criticize it.
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>>1546688
>Fontaine: pretty good.
I don't play Genshin anymore but didn't people say that Neuv basically stole the spotlight and that the archon has turned into a meme? Like, now every Archon is just a fake.
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物华弥新
This game has Ancient Egyptian dub with seperate lines for male and female player
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>>1546734
How doth one speak in hieroglyphs?
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mihomo fags are defending censorship on /v/ by calling "sexy" designs "degenerate"
you cant make this up lol
they must be rattled hard to astroturf their shilling campaign
there's also something important that i will post in a new thread, it explains why mihomo was so desperate in their 5.0 livestream and the faggot da wei cried like a bitch
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>>1546599
Exactly the problem as brown dust 2. They have coomer stuff out the ass, but the game is making peanuts. When are devs going to realize that what the players want is pandering; is the whole reason love and deepspace is doing so well. Adding some fanservice on top is good too.
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>>1546734
No JP dub no play, simple as.
>>1546740
They are literal redditors, we already know that. It's the same faggots that comment on youtube videos saying "seggs" instead of sex and "cultured" when a character shows a bit of leg.
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>>1546581
Yes, stuff like Dragon Ball Dokkan Battle. Mixed toilet is just when the company's target audience are both males and females, mixed gacha doesn't necessarily mean it's a mixed toilet.
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>>1546650
>>1546655
Deserved honestly. The shills on social media keep ignoring the cuck shit.
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>>1546740
their shills need to makeup up their mind. They will sell their game through sexy girls, but when you call it out for being censored, they will call you a coomer or incel.
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>>1547022
kek
they conveniently go from "china le based because of sexy girls in games" to "mihomo le based for not pandering to degenerate coomers"
funny
they are getting so buckbroken in the chinese market, they have to do everything to defend their self-insert ship-bait sloppa
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>>1546740
>waah waah people have different opinion
>ran to his safe space
>calls anyone a bitch
KEK the absolute state of incels YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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>>1546740
>there's also something important that i will post in a new thread
Why wait?
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>>1546740
>>1546777
>>1547022
>>1547050
>>1547244
Don't care, didn't ask

Still buying welkin moon
Still buying BP
Still buying top-up resets
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>>1547246
bitch is afraid noone's gonna pay attention to him
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>>1547255
good luck with your transition sister
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>>1547255
ywnbaw
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>>1547255
we know tranny...
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>>1547255
based, but also express supply
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>>1547255
>>1547304
>the least shill of hoyocuck
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>>1547341
>"please support our cause, we incels are poor..."
hmm how about no.
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>>1547344
t. hoyo tranny
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more like hoyo tyranny
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>hoyo tranny so mad that he is now resorting to wojaks
lmao
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Waifubros...i'm sick of pretending, no other company can be as good as mihoyo in terms of production value
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Cat Fantasy removed all SSR males.
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>the production value in question for hoyocuck games is a bunch of shitty mini games made for women and low iq monkeys with a braindead gameplay for zoomers
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>>1547390
What is the story behind that? The game is in beta or already out?
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>>1547396
Idk bro that still sounds like they put more effort than any company out there
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>>1547389
Hoyoshillbros... i'm sick of pretending that adding a bunch of useless shit improves the game or is a substitution for good gameplay.
>so many VAs in many languages
I'm onlt using JP, all the others are shit, EN and CN VAs are especially eceleb shits who don't sound good but are just popular influencers
>there are so many stories and side quests!
Don't care about little Timmy. Don't care about filler episode. Don't care about menial tasks to waste time. Not relevant to main. I'm not here to watch Naruto.
>It's open world and there is so much to explore!
Prefer loading so I don't have to manual walk. If I wanted to see landscape, there are always paintings.
>the attacks are all so pretty!
less graphics, more gameplay
>50/50 and free 5* selector!
No. Shit gacha. Prefer better rates.
>the music!
All the gacha tries this orchestra shit now. Hiring a bunch of music staff, writers, sound people doesn't make it any better, either. It's all the same epic soundtrack that are pretty much similar.
>it's 20GB+ of content!
No. Stop hogging up all the space on phone/pc. Uninstalled.
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>>1547451
sure, more effort in cucking their customers. People who say this have never played any other game outside mihomo, try wuwa, then go back to genshin, see who puts the effort.
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>>1547451
>same exact game since release just adding some garbage story and mini games made for women and low iq monkeys.
>Gameplay still the same q + e garbage with 0 improvements in years.
play more games if you think that shitty botw clone has any effort hoyocuck fag
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>>1547244
>>1547246
>>1547255
>>1547257
>>1547304
>>1547344
>>1547356
hoyoshitskiniggershill xissies in full force
>hehe you are poor so you are seething you can't spend on mihomo slopp-
ACKKK!
reminder that cn revenue for hoyo has tanked hard and the sensor tower data that gets posted here is literally made up by a rabid mihomo faggot
even the chinese are rapidly dumping homo slop in the trash where it belongs
your ceo literally had to cry and shit and piss his panties at a big stream in front of the world, and beg those cn players to come back
i can understand why mihomo trannies have to shill overtime everywhere KEKE
>>1547451
kek mihomo fags really dont play good games
they enjoy this garbage
either that or there are mihomo shills here
LMAO you cant make this shit up
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>>1547466
one day dawei and mihoyo will acknowledge the financial support of hoyofans outside of CN...
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>>1547466
Hoyoshills are getting more desperate, they are going on pretty much on every thread to shill their garbage like this mindbroken troon now. Even on their thread on /vg/ they can't stop saying how much their game is flopping thanks to their last 2 regions KEK
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>>1547468
yeah, they can then keep making their trash low quality low effort visual novel slop for their western fanbase
maybe they will finally start adding turd colored playable characters too and finally acknowledge the characters they had been selling before were indeed their tranny self-inserts
KEK
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>>1547470
kek, i've noticed an uptick in mihomo shilling lately. Dawei crying really motivated them to preach.
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>>1547470
that is nothing
you should check out /v/, where the shilling is getting even more desperate
like i said before, these shills conveniently move their goalposts so that mihomo is always right
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>>1547473
new meta is "tencent is actively sabotaging mihoyo"
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I just hope the story about the homoverse characters being the developers' self-inserts spreads like a wildfire everywhere, especially on chinese/japanese forums and on /v/
I already know spaces like twitter and reddit are just going to turn on the players and go all in into hoyocum guzzling
>>1547475
Yeah, I have been hearing this for a while
The funny part about that though is, Tencent doesn't give a shit about homoverse
Just look at this LOL
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>>1547478
its not fair mihoyo only has 10 games how can they compete!
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>>1547481
KEK
It really is telling something that even with such an aggressive monetization module like theirs, they have been struggling to make as much dough as Tencent
For years hoyofags have been painting Tencent as the big bad greedy boogeymannerrino, while their own company is known for being one of the scummiest, introducing the most awful trends in gacha such as having to roll for 7 copies of a character and 5 copies of their weapon to complete just that ONE character
Once even the remaining chinese/japanese catch wind of the self-insert thing, it's literally over for this yuritranny homoaids jewish company
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>>1547482
Japs are cucks anon you're expecting too much of them.
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>>1547473
They are really trying hard to shill that garbage
>>1547474
I saw that even on the gamescom thread, it was nonstop shilling and the majority of /v/ shitting on them
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>>1547482
>It really is telling something that even with such an aggressive monetization module like theirs,
I wonder if this will get hit with their new weapon banner system.
Part of the reason genshin made so much fucking money was because of how scummy was the weapon banner at first, literally no fucking pity for the weapon you wanted.
Then they added the selector at the third pity.

Now with their new system of getting the selected banner at second pity, I don't know if this will actually cut the flow money for it.
I don't know if people will be stupid enough to fall for the new bait.
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>>1547478
there's misdirection going on with this bilibili drama. they're blaming tencent for it and gone full slurp mode.
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>>1547517
i'm surprised it did so well the first month, it's incredibly boring and shallow. maybe if revenue tanks, they'll stop cucking the player
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>>1547517
good
it's barely interesting, it only has style, no substance
they get so much money from their scams and yet can't put effort into making the gameplay fun
and the character designs are terrible, with all the black and red on nearly all characters
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>>1547519
to be fair it did worse than HSR at launch, failed to get into of top 10 of July revenue >>1544120
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Genshin is not the norm for gacha. It was the first gacha for a lot of people, and it got boosted because it was a free botw clone released conveniently during covid, when people were locked inside their homes with nothing much to do.
The drop in HSR and ZZZ already tells that Genshin was simply lucky with their release.
And on that note, it's also not normal for gacha games to make $100 million per month. Even $1 million per month is more than enough to continue supporting the game post launch. Hoyo fanboys are genuinely clueless about how gacha development cycles work. They actually think putting out 2-3 characters per update with a new area costs millions to develop. It doesn't cost Hoyo anything compared to their profits. Hoyo fanboys literally get scammed and brag about it, which is just sad.
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>>1547525
it doesnt cost them $100 million to shit out a character but it does cost them $500 millions to shill that one (remember twitter hashtag icon?)
the lack of technical improvement between GI/HSR and HSR/ZZZ compared to HI3/GI should indicate the lack of spending on R&D
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>>1547529
That further solidifies the rumor of them receiving external funding to put out Genshin
Also explains this
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>>1547529
Honkai 2 -> Honkai 3 -> Genshin were big generational leaps
Then they used the money to hire thousands of useless cunts and shat out last gen garbages like Tears of Themis, Honkai 4 and ZZZ...
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Female fans of a certain game werent very happy about Wukong's release
They have been banned by weibo for pushing gender war narrative and attacking people online
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9140339078
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>>1547529
>the lack of technical improvement between GI/HSR and HSR/ZZZ compared to HI3/GI
This is bullshit. I’m not even a hoyoslurper who’s into their garbage Genshin-tier story, but you can’t deny the polish they added to HSR or ZZZ. Those games run flawlessly even on old devices, and you can really see the animation improvement creeps too especially with ZZZ.
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>>1547546
>Female fans of a certain game
What gaem?
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>>1547550
Thats a style decision to overanimate everything, not a technical improvement. I know you are skipping every cutscene that isn't prerendered so you didn't notice, but any other cutscene will feature the exact same stilted "dialogue" animations and expresionless stares as dialogues in GI/HSR
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>>1547550
he is not talking about style
he is talking about substance
actual technical improvements, such as the shift from 2d chibis to actual 3d models in hi3, mechanical base of genshin's elemental system paired with actual open world instead of corridors
stuff like that
the fact genshin hasnt implemented anything else besides teapot decoration, card game, one new element and underwater exploration to the game is just shameful
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>>1547551
it's a mystery!
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>>1547550
>run flawlessly even on old devices
Why you got to lie like this?
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>>1547556
You see gweilo, if your device isn't from the past two months it's old.
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>>1547550
you cant even JUMP in newer mihomo games
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>>1547559
its a FEATURE
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>>1547559
Jumping isn't real. No one can actually jump, it's just being realistic. Don't believe me? Go try to slam a dunk. It's all CGI like the moon landing.
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>>1547550
i've never played HSR, but ZZZ is a downgrade from Genshin. You don't even get cutscenes, you get comic book scenes, and visual novel slop dialog scenes instead of camera angles. The levels are corridors, with zero exploration, the city isn't big or interesting either. Can't even compare it to persona 5, that game has more exploration. Don't forget the shitty TV mini-game, what were they thinking? Some silly overanimated animations are an upgrade? Hoyo isn't a small indie company anymore. You sound like a slurper
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>>1547562
ayaka is still ugly in every universes...
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>you can really see the animation improvement creeps too especially with ZZZ
I can see how often the screen fades to black with some text instead of ACTUAL animations of what is happening
Would it kill these scammer hacks to put effort into showing what the characters are actually doing? Of course it will, this is mihomo we are talking about LOL
also this >>1547562
Just a handful of cutscenes with actual animations, and those are rare
Most of the game is still narrated as if it were the early HI3 days
Still a visual novel slop, but now with comic book slop
After all, why would they put effort into the game when they can just scam their gullible and brainless cattle audience?
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>>1547562
Still more organic than pngslop tbqh
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>>1547554
>the fact genshin hasnt implemented anything else
Because the base game has to run on older devices, remember Genshin came out 4 years ago, and back then it had to work on older low-end android chinkphones from 5 years before that. They can't just drop support for those old devices out of nowhere to add new tech features, because Genshin is still their flagship and suddenly cutting off support like that would make casual players lose trust in the brand.
>>1547556
>Why you got to lie like this?
Because it's a fact? ZZZ and Wuwa released around the same tim, but you only heard about performance issues from Wuwafags never from ZZZfags, though I admit Wuwa is more ambitious.
>>1547552
>you cant even JUMP in newer mihomo games
Fair criticism.
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>>1547568
>i love slurping dawei's cum
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>>1547565
>dog is asleep
>fade to black
>"you wake up the dog"
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>1547462
>play more games
These chinks live in constant fear that mhy's popularity will kill their trash lmao.
If you think there are better games then why are you so hellbent on blaming hoyo like they murder your family? Don't tell me you're secretly funding them in hope that their games gonna get better.
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>>1547570
Are you really going to blame lack of content on phones?
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>>1547575
hoyofags literally cannot talk in anything else but tribal speak
>muh popular
>muh successful
sorry to tell you that none of the popularity or success is going to benefit you
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>new lead narrative designer from Riot Game working on the new US studio Hoyo game.
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>"nooo stop spitting facts!!!"
>haters literally can't talk anything but their raging small cock towards hoyo
Sorry to tell you that malding won't either kill hoyo or keep your "better game" alive.
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seething mihomo shill itt
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>no u
you lost
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>no u
you lost
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>seapag hoyoshill
shameful behavior
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they're making fun of us again...
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>>1547585
Great, more LGTVHD+ shit on the way
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Hey dramafags, is Wuwa actually dying? And if it's true, why?
>>>/v/686419624`
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>>1547683
Why do you care? Do you have stocks in Tencent or Kuro?
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>>1547687
>Why do you care?
I care because it's one of the only two games that do omnipandering ML fanservice right. The other one is FGO.
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>>1547690
Then to answer your question. No, Tencent is already funding the game why would it EoS? Everyone and their mother knows this is a skip patch, wait to see Shorekeeper's revenue will probably be a better gauge.
Also, all these "revenue" numbers are made up, why would Kuro be expanding if the revenue was "dire".
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>>1547683
If Tower of Trash can survive after 3 years theres no reason why Wuwa cant
Also Koreans are carrying the game hard lmao
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L&D stacies are fucking RICH
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>>1547683
Goddamn, people are so fucking stupid. Still thinking that the made up number of 24 mil of the redditor's sensortower is the ONLY money wuwa received in 1.1.
Not even once having the thought that the game is also getting money from pc and android.

I really still don't understand why hoyoshills attack wuwa so much. I mean, if their game is much better than wuwa like their say, then there's no need to do it, right?
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>>1547683
This >>1547700
I don't think Kuro has mentioned it but I am pretty confident that most of this games sales are from PC.
Not to mention you can just use a VPN and pretend to be Japanese for cheaper prices, which also isn't counted on these charts.
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>>1547698
Meanwhile, flopbreak.
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>>1547707
Snowbreak is fine?
According to the meme chart they made $10m from mobile and the devs have already said majority of their money is from PC.
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>>1547698
what site is this?
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>>1547709
Didn't you know? Everything is considered a flop if they can't make mihoyo levels of money every month in the mobile meme charts?
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>>1547714
But that would make it on par with ZZZ, and not a flop by this logic.
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>>1547683
If in 1.3 revenue doesn't recover then yes. There's a reason Tencent ran away from gacha market, it's a massive bubble that's popping and these games are relying on unsustainable marketing costs to keep up their momentum.
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>>1547718
No, by that logic every game with pc client earns more than what's shown.
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>>1547725
I'm talking just about mobile revenue in that case. Since Snowbreak and ZZZ both made 10m.
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>>1547726
It's not even in the top 100
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>>1547726
Last I checked ZZZ made 99m in the meme chart anon.
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>>1547707
>mihobrown seethe about snowbreak for the 99th time
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>>1547709
It's kinda sad some gachafags get so mibroken by snowbreak. It's a shooter game and nobody wants to play shooters on mobile so you'd never see it high on the memecharts.
It's also why you hardly see any shooter games performing well on this chart >>1547698 even though the mobile market is like 5x bigger than the PC one.
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HoYoVerse.
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We love hoyoverse and shanghai here!
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Scaramouche x Nahida x Nilou.
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>>1547761
>>1547764
>>1547769
Baaed and hoyopilled
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>>1547764
Shanghai really tried to be its own thing separate from China because it had diplomatic and economic influence. But Hoyo is such a China suck-up. It's Hoyo and those like them that are ruining Shanghai. The Shanghai free market is effectively dead in reality.
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>>1547683
I don't understand why Genshill are so confident in 5.0 when Mualani has been taking nerf after nerf after nerf after nerf.
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>Wuthering Waves fell below Blue Archive in best selling category
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>>1547800
Maybe they think their Dora Explorer region would carry the day.
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>>1547800
>still locking traversal skills behind limited units
yikes
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>1547804
>Oyohimnig used deflect
>but it had not effect
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>>1547800
>confident
they're not, they're afraid, they've been lashing out at everyone more than usual, and shilling harder. They have eyes, they can see the upcoming patch is shit, first month will probably give them a bump, but after that, game will be as dead as it is now, then the homos and shipping will start rolling out and it's all downhill from there.
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>>1547800
Hoyo considers Natlan a relaunch of the game is quite obvious, you can even skip all the previous AQ and as useless as it is they are giving away much more stuff for free than in the past. Mualani's nerf is either because she has slightly dark skin or because they don't want to risk a second Neuvillette. People believe until they find themselves facing the bitter truth, give it time and maybe they will realize that for mihoyo they are just wallets and not people.
>>1547804
Wuwa has a problem, it is not casual friendly and getting rewards especially from combat events is much more difficult than in genshin.
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[Humorous drama]
Suspected PM (Project Manager?) of Neural Cloud wanted to block all people who played Black Myth Monke in group chat.
It's rumored that she had been fired?
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41373480&page=3

>>1547804
I hope it stays low although it's a good action game.
This gacha goldrush needed to be stopped and developers should reconsider their monetisation model again
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>>1547853
>you can even skip all the previous AQ
isn't this some kind of low key admission that they're game is shit? It's so bad, if they force new players to play old regions, they will quit. Why won't homoshills come to terms with reality
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>>1547800
>>1547839
>>1547841
>>1547846
No one is expecting 5.0 to sell good, dumbasses
The characters before archons always suffer to some degree

But in 5.1 release of Mavuika is when WE will bury every other shitty gacha AGAIN
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>>1547857
neural cloud has to be the deadest game in service, i guess higan erythll might be slightly deader
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>>1547862
>hoyoverse is still doing this weird ass hair
This is part of the reason their designs will always be shit.
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>>1547862
Hey look it's Xbalanque's wife.
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>>1547862
*yawn*
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So first it was "5.0 will save us" now it's the "archon will save us".
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>>1547869
>the archon will save us
>bro look at this one (you)bait line in her dialogues, BASEDverse is doing (you) pandering, come back
>*next patch*
>w-w-what do you mean she is on her knees sucking dragon sovereign cock.....
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>>1547862
>In before bennet sidegrade until c2 or c4.
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>>1547862
kaveh will never be a woman
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>>1547870
>she is on her knees sucking dragon sovereign cock
Kinda hot, ngl
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>>1547862
>muh sales
and the game will be shit even if you throw thousands of dollaridoos in it, mihomo slurper
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>>1547862
Actually 5.2 will not have archon quests and most likely Mavuika will be released in 5.3 since the archon is usually released at the end of the archon quest.
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>>1547890
Because this is a business and is the only thing that matters?
Why do you want to have a gacha game if you are making peanuts out of it and risk of EOS.
Just look at Wuwa >>1547804
EOS by 1.4 at the latest.
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>>1547921
Just found out this homo will be phase 2 of 5.0. Shills said genshin will mostly be females, starting your new patch with homos already, it's looking grim.
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mindbroken antis
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>mindbroken anti
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>>1547927
You shouldn't listen to shills but normal Genshin players, part of the community is quite toxic. Anyway Kazuha in the first phase, Kinich in the second phase, another natlan male probably 4* will be released later and consider that with Raiden the archon reruns start again so there will definitely be Zhongli and Venti, and Wriothesley (what a fucking name) hasn't had a rerun yet. I'd say for all the homo lovers there's a lot of stuff.

The funniest thing is that more than a year has passed since Shenhe's rerun, she is probably some fired self insert too.
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>>1547995
Shenhe doesn't get many banners because she is a hyperniche support for the second worst element. She is a 4* at 5* rarity and her sales always reflect that so she has been mothballed until ice becomes not dogshit.
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>>1547871
She's a on field DPS, you're going to play her WITH bennet.
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>>1547890
Still better than your shitty png collector, incel.
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>>1547924
Will drink some beers in celebration when EoS gets announced for WW. It was always the 1 cent GI clone with GI being the 10 dollar BotW clone.
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>>1547869
No need to wait for the archon because Mualani will save genshin. have you seen the recent trailer? The recent trailer making it seem like they're going for (You) pandering with mualani similar to how they did with Firefly.
>>1547870
>B-b-but muh cuck muh ship
since she's based on gura who's known for being a GFE vtuber, I doubt they’d risk pairing her with a male character. doing so would likely cause an uproar.
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>>1548008
That would be even worse. She isn't gonna replace hutao since every character these days has fucked cooldowns.
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>>1548028
Buut i don't want that, i want to stay MAD!!!
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>Almost out of top 200
>Not even halfway through the first banner yet
>Second banner is a male

1.2 is actually looking catastrophic for Wuwa.
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>>1548028
>s-she will be for (You) this time I swear! Dawei p-promised!!
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>>1548030
>Buut i don't want that, i want to stay MAD!!!
for at least 10 years
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The situation looks even worse for the JP server, where the game is already out of top 200 on iOS. It can only be said that Kuro has already forgotten 1.2 and is preparing to make a last stand with 1.3. If the next version fails to recover in revenue, then the game will pretty much die. They don't even have Tencent to bail them out either since they ran away.
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>>1548040
Mecha snail bros we've almost fucking won.
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>>1548028
Too bad her design is absolute dogshit.
Also some thing happened with Yoimiya. A designated (you) character that cucked you some patches later, hell, even approved by her seiyuu, fucking lmao.
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>>1548060
Next time they shouldn't let women design their female characters
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>>1548069
They got cocky after getting away with it for PGR
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>>1548069
is that really the reason the game is flopping, the girls seem okay, not enough to get me to play, but they aren't bad either. The reason I'm not touching it, is because I'm not sitting through hours of chinkslop writing, already did with genshin, chugging through it with zzz, it's tedious and boring. People also say the grind is worse than genshin's. I couldn't tell you why it's flopping though, other than that it seems solid, good graphics, decent looking characters, especially female rover.
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>>1548079
They really shot themselves in the foot with that shit, specially considering from act 4 onwards there's zero chinkslop and the story pics up quite a bit. I SKIPPED everything until Scar shows up, but I don't expect the average player to wait for 5 hours until the story gets going. Also the highlight of the game is combat, but there's barely any at the start, so it's boring as fuck. I wonder if they can remake the start of the game like FFXIV or snowbreak did to attract new players.
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>>1548079
>already did with genshin, chugging through it with zzz
Just say you're genshill, no need to write a blog
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>>1548084
nah, i shit on mihoyo all the time, i just said zzz is shit, and so is genshin, i'm not praising them. You can only stomach so much chinkslop writing, they need to learn from korea, blue archive and nikke get straight to the point, no annoying padding, or lore dumps.
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>came from chinkshit forum to shill promilia
>is now confirmed DoA
>too embarrassed to come back and admit their loss
>decided to stay and circlejerk in phonenigger board
>parrot the same shit like a broken record
Can't get any lower than this.
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WuWa 1.2 was basically doomed to fail revenue-wise because one of its new characters is a male they gave out for free and a female support with an uninteresting design.
1.3 is already planned to try and staunch the bleeding with Shorekeeper who looks to be on the same level of (you) pandering as Jinhsi and Changli. As long as the other limited they have for that version is also a for (you) female unit they'll survive.
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>>1548085
Yeah. I don't know why Chink is really stupid in this. Every Chink's games have the same problem.
Boring, but understandable story>>>>Convoluted mess Chinkslop.
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>>1548069
>>1548111
>a female support with an uninteresting design.
Why did they do this, I honestly don't understand.
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>>1548079
>People also say the grind is worse than genshin's
Ah yes, the game that had literally specific days you could farm mats for your characters and no other days.
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>>1548052
>make 2 hangouts baiting (you) pandering
>cucks the players some patches later
>mihomo cucks will still slurp this shit
They will never learn
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>>1547924
no one gives a crap about pisswaves here
we come here to talk about gacha drama, mihomo shill
LMFAO it is hilarious that there are actual hoyofag shills here who think this is discussion about sales and which gachashit game is better
next time, read through the thread and see what people are talking about
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>>1548079
the real reason is that it is a blatant genshit ripoff, but with chingchong slop and chingchong characters
genshit was already a blatant botw ripoff, but at least it had european-based characters too
i genuinely dont know why they made such an absurd decision to screw over their own game
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>>1548333
Beating a dead horse like Pisswaves is their way to cope and shill hoyocuck games
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>>1548337
they probably want to get chinashilling done asap instead of doing it later (similar to HSR)
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>>1548343
what is even worse is they only have chingchong characters in their game and never put out a video like genshit did to show players what other regions they can expect in the future
they could have at least had 2 regions at launch like genshit, one chingchong, and another with a wider global appeal
retarded developers
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>>1548111
>>1548291
Zhezhi is no support. If she was, people would've got her because they need another one besides verina.
Zhezhi is a dps unit, either main or sub. That's why shorekeeper is getting more hype because she's supposedly to be the support people have been wanting.
>t. wuwabro
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why is the redditchart taken as the holy grail when revenueposting when it doesn't include modt of the top grossing games in jp and cn?
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>>1548352
>never put out a video like genshit did to show players what other regions they can expect in the future
because they rewrote the whole story
plus HSR didnt do that either for a reason
>they could have at least had 2 regions at launch like genshit
leak says 1.4 is the last patch of 1.x so the chinkslop is going to end soon
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>>1548362
Because people don't have any other data to shitpost from
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>>1548362
because it wouldnt fit the narrative
also reading the comments on reddit, I suspect they post on both r/gachagaming and /vg/ since the writing style is quite similar
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>>1548362
Because those aren't gacha, retard.
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>>1548362
same reason tencent games are conveniently omitted
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>>1548362
meme chart is all they have. Meme chart that doesn't include pc numbers and also >>1548372
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>"umm acshually, i don't believe in redditvenue chart..."
>"AAAIIIEEE WHY THE MIHOYOSLOPS ON TOP PUT IT DOWN PUT IT DOWN!!!!!"
Duality of chinkcels.
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>mihomoslop
>on top
if only that was true dawei wouldnt cry and shit his pants on stream
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>"trust me bro low tier garbages earn more than that"
>"B-BUT WHY HOYOSLOPS STILL ON TOP I CAN'T ACCEPT THIS"
Crazy how something you don't believe still offends you this much. I suggest you to tahe a shower, go outside, touch grass, and meet people.
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>hoyoslurper telling anyone to touch grass
>while his master is begging for people to come back
lole
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uh oh, hoyoshill melty
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>>1548362
hoyofags can't shitpost without made-up sales chart
mihomo revenue has also dropped hard, which explians why they are desperately shilling everywhere and why their ceo had to cry like a bitch on stage
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Keep going buddy, your ad homs only show that you're on the loser's side.
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> Keep going buddy, your ad homs only show that you're on the loser's side.
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Why is being mentally ill seemingly a requirement for being a gacha game fan?
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Good. Wuwa. Good. See the consequence of your actions for trying to chase after the Genshin's slurpers. Wuwa at the moment is walking on the same path that Snowbreak did, and just like Snowbreak, it too will break its Genshin's shackles and become the unfathomable based game it is meant to be.
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Mihoyo-affiliated doxxing group Xianjia Army just doxxed another AK player today
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41398786
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Is hoyo really going to pull the retarded card of mavuika not being the real archon and instead a male character is the real one?
They aren't that stupid and shameless, right?
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>>1548403
i love it
love seeing all these gachashit companies fall apart by practicing greedy and retarded trends
the sooner this shit industry dies out, the better
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>>1548403
azur promilia is next, they made azur lane players fund their genhomo clone, while putting nothing back into azur lane. it will flop too
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>>1548362
>>1548367
>>1548368
>>1548389
Because >>1548371
>>1548372
>same reason tencent games are conveniently omitted
What about
>Love Deepspace
>Wuwa
>Nikke
>ToF
>GFL2
I'm sure many other gachas have Tencent backing too but I'm too lazy to check.
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>>1548417
> while putting nothing back into azur lane.
This is factually wrong, see pic. Yes you might see AL as just a public beta test for their AP but at least AL has 3D lewds now.
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>>1548389
Yeah we can see how much their revenue dropped over the years kek >>1542296 >>1542301
>>1548394
LMAO Those CN memes are the best. Mihomos forever BTFO
>>1548403
That will never happen since they have males on gacha and will never delete them
>>1548406
>Shills have a doxxing mafia to defend Mihomo
lmao
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>>1548407
Qrd?
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>>1548406
>AK player
Deserved at least.
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>>1548419
They're not Tencent Games, stupid
Tencent mobile games (developed by Tencent studios) are Honor of Kings, DNF, PUBG
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don't know why he's not posting, maybe those tranny devs actually silenced him
https://space.bilibili.com/9922322/dynamic
shills seething
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41400017&rand=868
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9143599703?pn=5
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9140384637
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9141610737
though, the biggest one is here, after so fucking long i can feel it finally
416 is KEKSHIT LMAAAOOOOO
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41400252
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9143353467?pn=8
basically, insider claims they repurposed the plot of a scrapped project (glitchland?) where she got shipped with 4 different dudes into her gf2 plot + some other cuckbaiting. not the whole thing but enough to make sure SHE'S NOT FOR YOU, AND NONE OF YOUR GIRLS ARE GFL KEKS HAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
after so fucking long, even after they tried their damndest to damage control their cuck game, do i feel the fucking truth coming through at once. i can't wait for the event to finally drop and with it its revenue LMAAAOOOOO
just think, did you really think they got mad ocer nothing? no, it's because it was cuckshit and their trannylation and limbus tranny shills kept playing it off as nothing. but now, now the language barrier wont save them, and i cant wait to taste the fucking raid you're going to get when that cuck event releases. for the handful of fags who like 416 or other shitty cuckbait franchise girls it makes me happy to know they're about to get their spirit crushed soon
you don't understand how much this means to me, this vindication i'm going to get after being denied it for so fucking long will be the sweetest ever tasted, and it'll be all at your expense. those /gfg/ trannies lost hard, but you're going to feel it sooner than later now, and everyone will know that they're all lying cucks who tries whitewashing cuckshit in their UN jewish game.
THEY FUCKING LOST TRANNIES
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>>1548432
That happened on the last region with the female archon being a fake archon and the story shilling a tranny looking dragon instead of her for the entire region. Same is bound to happen again since the tranny self insert devs just loves shilling homo characters.
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Man /wuwa/ is coping hard right and I'm saying this as a wuwa enjoyer. Now they're coping about how male characters aren't that bad in a gacha and look down on Snowbreak despite doing terribly financially. This is what happened when you made a patch featuring an unappealing female and a male. The good ones left, and the community is now infested with the same troonery and faggotry that they use to clown on the mihomo's community. During Changli's banner, /wuwa/ was fun as hell, but now it reeks of delusional coping almost like the GFL2's community.
You know what to do WuWa, make more Changlis, or make more homos. Do the right things.
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>>1548438
>Tencent mobile games (developed by Tencent studios) are Honor of Kings, DNF, PUBG
Now you're being dishonest. DNF is developed by Neople which is Nexon. Tencent is just the publisher, I lumped those gacha games under Tencent because they're pretty much the same as DNF being backed by Tencent.
>>1548439
>gf2
>not gfl2
so you're from /there/ right?
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>>1548439
>repurposed the plot of a scrapped project (glitchland?) where she got shipped with 4 different dudes into her gf2 plot + some other cuckbaiting. not the whole thing but enough to make sure SHE'S NOT FOR YOU, AND NONE OF YOUR GIRLS ARE

i don't get it? why would they do this. They are damage controlling all the cuck stuff, why would they suddenly turn around and cuck the player again? What do they gain from this, their revenue will just tank again. or is it some nuanced subversive stuff that they hope people won't notice except schizos.
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>>1548439
there's no fucking way they didn't rewrite the cuck stuff. they can't be that stupid. I'll believe it when the event comes out.
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>>1548439
in english please?
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>>1548060
>>1548040
I kinda feel bad for wuwa fans, obviously I would have liked a game, any game, to finally dethrone hoyoshit but there was never any chance to win against genshit by being just bootleg genshit. Say what you want about Promilia, Endfield and Mugen being sexless, mixed toilets or vaporware but at least they have more of a identity than "genshit but the whole map china"
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>>1548480
im sure wuwafans know that and they are just waiting for 2.0 at this point
pgr was hi3 bootleg but it somehow surpassed that recently, maybe there will be a chance for wuwa
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>>1548483
Part of the reason is hi3 suicided with part 2 by trying to attract the genshin audience instead of maintaining the status quo. It did not work.
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>>1548485
they made ZZZ a prettier, flashier HI3
pt2 was doomed from the start
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>>1548450
>Now they're coping about how male characters aren't that bad in a gacha and look down on Snowbreak despite doing terribly financially
Something tells me there are twitter troons there, I lost count how many times I have seen kuroshills seethe about Snowbreak
>>1548483
>pgr was hi3 bootleg but it somehow surpassed that recently
Because mihomo is doing everything they can to kill HI3, not because PGR is anywhere near good
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>>1548489
>Because mihomo is doing everything they can to kill HI3
they are doing the same thing to GI too haha
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>>1548486
ZZZ isn't remotely similar other than being focused on short, instanced fights. If 3rd hadn't gone out of it's way to burn bridges it would have kept doing about as well as it had been instead of continuing to implode with no signs of stopping.
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>>1548480
Wuwa is not casual so it only attracts a portion of Genshin players, add to this that Kuro with Wuwa is content to exist together with Genshin and not use it to wage war on Mihoyo.
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>>1548439
>x5 trann in the same post
The chink has learned a new word, how cute.
And before you throw any more impotent accusations, here's what an actual UN jewish tranny game looks like. Contemplate on that for a moment before you post again.
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>>1548490
Different circumstances
GI stagnates for years with barely any new content, 0 response to player feedback and the company shooting itself in the foot with their own newer games, the revenue is still with mihoyo but it shifted channels and genshit is easily recognized as the black sheep of the family, pushing people away rather than attracting them
with HI3 they tried so damn hard to get genshit fanbase to play it, a fresh start, new cast to attract people, mixed toilet protag, but GI fanbase is for GI, they didnt care, so all they managed to do was alienate the existing fanbase who could just migrate to similar games, PGR, LaD, Snowbreak etc
They are currently trying very hard to win the fans back by bringing back Kiana in some way, deleting male protag and actually doing something with Theresa after the character has been shelved for...5 years now?
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iQiyi and Three Kingdoms are the only heroes standing against the Tencent domination...
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>>1548496
i have seen oblivion characters look better than that wtf
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>>1548489
>Because mihomo is doing everything they can to kill HI3, not because PGR is anywhere near good
maybe thats the thing, dev need to actually deliver consistent update for their current fanbase instead trying to attract new player especially from their other game. this shit actually funny because im pretty sure people who play wuwa actually play PGR i'd say 70% them because i keep seeing them in the thread, meanwhile every hoyo fanbase are rabid dog to each other. also feels like AG is more HI3rd clone than PGR
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After NetEase's new financial report came out, Project Mugen is rumored to have been canceled, as it seems NetEase didn't mention it at all. If true, then it looks like Wuthering Waves' low revenue is already influencing other companies into canceling their gachas in production.
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>>1548580
proof?
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>>1548589
https://ir.netease.com/news-releases/news-release-details/netease-announces-second-quarter-2024-unaudited-financial

Mugen not mentioned.
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>>1548608
its munover
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>>1548580
good
i want an actual anime gta where i can create my own waifu and dress her up in slutty clothing, plus the gameplay should be engaging instead of spamming the same few buttons
chingchongs cannot create good character designs or gameplay since they have found out a lazy way to make money
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>>1548608
that would be...weird, just last month they started running applications for survey about game expectations etc in the discord
granted the discord is between ghost town and a shitshow but still
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>>1548640
NtE literally made fun of mugen for disappearing
I think it's dead already
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>>1548641
>NTE
You mean the overdesigned trash copy from the people that pressed the fanservice panic button harder than Snowbreak in a matter of one update?
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>>1548649
they didnt hit EoS so thats a win in my book
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>>1548439
So when are you finally going to fight the "gfl2keks". They gave you some addresses like you asked.
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>>1548629
Keep dreaming then because I doubt that something like this will ever be developed in the East and the only ones who could are Westerners but now they are infected by the woke virus.

I agree about the two buttons but we should have a different discussion about the quality of the characters. The Chinese do nothing but copy their culture, pop and otaku culture, to this add that if a character must have a certain theme the Chinese exaggerate it to absurd levels, to this add that the ideas are starting to run out for powers, abilities and appearance. Mobile has accelerated the creation of characters and this has led to an artistic stagnation from which it is impossible to escape, in a decade more characters have been created than those that have been created since the post-war period to the advent of the mobile gaming market, probably the only sector that has had such a high production before was that of hentai visual novels since they have been produced since the 80s at least.
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Regarding the natlan concert video drama, someone ran a crawler to fetch all comments and noticed that they were spammed by the same accounts (10 comments/account on average)
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41407895
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>>1548700
And mihoyo shills still keep saying that 600k comments at Miyoushe are trolls, bots, while their 600k comments at Bilibili are real players, and Bilibili suppressed them, kek
Typical fancircle/fandom practice to maintain the discussion/hype
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Btw, anyone know the situation with Snowbreak? First the Google Playstory, and now Steam?
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41409032
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>>1548708
it's probably being mass reported.
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>>1548708
Not sure about steam, but supposedly on the official discord they update was blocked for sexual imagery.
Google is so fucking slow with updating things normally for Play store related things we don't know when it will be fixed. I believe the devs mentioned in a previous stream they were working on getting the games ratting bumped but it hasn't happened yet.
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>>1546229
Found the early investor of Mihoyo. Doesn't seem like a jewish entity
https://news.16p.com/882310.html
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>>1548734
They said it was an angel investor
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>>1548708
>google
Their system just fucking suck
>steam
Probably getting reported by seething trannies or something. Steam legit allows porn games and has games like "sex with hitler", but they also blocked a VN game that was on switch because some faggot who got to review that game that day didn't like the game.
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>>1548700
In case you were wondering what did they spam, here's the comments
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>>1548740
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>>1548608
I will not be surprised if this game is vaporware, what they showed was something really early in development by the trailers and some enemies didn't even react to anything.
>>1548740
>>1548742
I don't understand because of this AI translation, but this is Mihomo shills attacking Wukong because the game is getting more popular than any Hoyocuck game?
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>>1548744
see >>1545733
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>>1548744
They must be seething that wukong already sold freaking 10 million copies, but I don't understand why they should
Wukong isn't gacha, wukong is a single player game
It's not like it is competing against any mihoyo game
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>>1548746
so a bunch of harpies spammed anti wukong comments during a natlan concert because they're angry that they are not the center of attention anymore? is that it?
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>>1548746
women playing video games was a mistake
>>1548753
The game really isn't a competitor, but hoyocucks must see it that way because its taking their spotlight or something
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>>1548753
First, mihoyo games are full of Weibo/Xiaohongshu femcels, and they're really seething at Black Myth because it's anti-feminist
Second, hoyoslurpers are really coping about their "national high quality game, domestic light, 3A quality, cultural export, etc." and now Black Myth shattered that copium tank.
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>>1548793
>Black Myth because it's anti-feminist
is this the chinese definition of anti-feminist? because i don't see it. I remember seeing videos of red dead redemption 2, where you could feed the annoying feminist woman to alligators, i would call that anti feminist.
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>>1548803
Basically the devs of Black Myth told femcels to fuck off, hence the seething
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>>1548803
See the controversies made by woke cucks even here in the west about Wukong. Feminists and a bunch of the woke journalist media still crying that the devs hates women based on a article written by IGN where they had a feminist chink as a source with some bad translation stuff and crying that the game is not diverse. There is also the part where the devs for Wukong refused to pay for woke consulting mafia, so they put a hit piece of the devs head
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>>1548753
>They must be seething that wukong already sold freaking 10 million copies, but I don't understand why they should
>Wukong isn't gacha, wukong is a single player game
It's not a game for women. It has male characters but they are not pandering to femcels and fujo but typical action macho men like Dante, Kratos or Ninja Gaiden's Ryu. Also it's a real game so typical normie "female gamers" get hard filtered by it.
So a game not pandered to women basically an anti-women game that must be boycotted according to those femcels.
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>>1548863
that's what annoys me about them, why can't game diversity exist? why does every game have to have braindead combat, and faggots who look like picrel? It seems to me, they want to control the industry, and they don't actually care about games.
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>>1548866
Because they hate men. It's as simple as that. Anything men like is evil and must be destroyed. It's always been like that. It's the core tenant of feminism.
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this reminds me of the hogwarts legacy drama with the trannies trying to boycott the game
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>>1548879
Introducing woketranny movement, oppressed male gamers edition. They even have the audacity to think they're better than the former.
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>>1548896
What are you talking about? The conversation is about wukong.
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>>1548896
>t. tranny
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>>1548754
Wukong devs said they didn't need to shit their game up to attract females and homos so naturally mihoyo's audience got mad.
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Why would Chinese devs need SBI to tell a chinese story? That makes no fucking sense.
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>>1548920
Welcome to woke tranny logic. In reality they just want invade every space they can to promote their political ideology
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>>1548866
Da Wei looks like that?!
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>>1548946
No he looks like this >>1544923
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>>1548946
He wishes, Welt has always been dawei's self insert.
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>>1548580
>>1548608
I don't really think it's cancelled, it's just that they have nothing to show for now. If there are no mentions by mid 2025 then it'd be time to worry.
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>>1548902
Oh so you're one of them.
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>>1549011
Oh so you're one of them.
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>>1548953
debunked >>1541345
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>>1549081
Debunked my ass. The fag has dressed as him for years at this point.
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>>1548753
mihomo fandoms(and the company itself) are full of feminist at this point. And you already know how these females act when the attention is taken away from them. They're calling wukong a toxic masculinity game even though it's about a literal monkey beating up monsters.
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>>1549130
And this entire thread is how men act when the attention is taken away from them.
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>>1549140
Shouldn't you be in the kitchen honey?
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>>1549140
>larping as a girl
YWNBAW
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>>1549130
>the sbi calls are now from both outside and inside the chinese house
bro i am tired.
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>>1549140
Who created video games? Men
Who poured money into video games? Men.
Who make video games a giant industry? Men.
Who invaded the video game space and started asking for shits at the expense of men? Answer it yourself.
Name ONE female dominated hobby that was infiltrated by insufferable men asking to be accommodated because of "inclusivity".
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>>1549150
to be fair, men are invading women's sports, I'm against it, but women are too retarded to reject trannies, so they can suffer the consequences
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>>1549150
>>1549152
reminder our enemies are LGBTBBQ+ homofujos, not straight femcels
they are gatekeeping L&D and winning Olympics
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>>1549152
>women's sports
No matter how many men cut their penis off they still can't get pregnant.
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>>1547517
It's a smol-scale purely male-aimed brawler for the Asian ass-men (all 12 of them) of this world.
This was to be expected.
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>>1549150
We do not know how many females have worked in the sector in the past, so I would not generalize too much, there are females in the hobby that does not give a damn about the politically correct and inclusiveness. The problem is feminists and all woke culture, which are a minority, and those stupid developers, artists, etc. who listen to them and indulge them.

Tranny, gay and crossdresser invaded spaces that were previously mainly for females.

However, the one we are witnessing is a power struggle, that males and people with brain is losing because the wokes have people with money and famous behind them.
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>>1548069
That'd explain why there is one (1) midriff in that game and miniskirts are always reined it by black tights, like this meme.
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>>1549172
>and those stupid developers, artists, etc. who listen to them and indulge them.
The core problem when it comes to societal women-relevant shit is that men humor the women too much. That's literally all. Men just listen too much to women and ignore them not enough.
Men bending over backwards is almost the entire driver of social change (as it pertains to women's "issues").

Proof? Well, I can tell you what gave me the idea: after it came out that shaman feminist cult ruled South Korea, most men there became hardcore chud.
And this seems to have an extremely potent warding effect against pozz. Gook men just no longer care when women open their mouth with a political bent.
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>>1549175
Based gooks taking action instead of crying 24/7 in 4chud, though they're dying as a result.
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>>1549175
>after it came out that shaman feminist cult ruled South Korea, most men there became hardcore chud.
QRD and source please. Sounds super interesting.
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>>1549203
Just look up president park. It's well known enough that even mainstream shit covers it.
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>>1549218
>not stepping down
Haven't learned a thing, huh
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>>1548040
I don't get why it's falling off so hard in 1.2
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>>1549237
>I don't get why it's falling off so hard in 1.2
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>>1548480
>genshit but the whole map china"
They are working on an Italian region, it’s like an all-hands emergency. I am not sure how cognizant Kuro and the CCP who maybe injected some government grant were that Monke would already carry the mantle of Chink culture reel to the world.

Perhaps they thought they needed anime thots for the pill to go down easier, idk
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>>1548691
You offer a point ai actually never thought about (which doesn’t happen often). It’s true, compared to trad games which have at most 5 protagonists with unique concepts, gachas have rosters in the 100s. At one point you have exhausted effortlessly appealing combat abilities, aesthetic design, lore, etc.
It’s a novel development unique to the gacha era and no one has found out a way to deal with it yet
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>>1549237
>>1549263
Because Kuro screwed up the release of all the characters from the beginning.

Calcharo DPS
Encore DPS
Lingyang DPS
Jianxing Hybrid
Verina Healer and Support
Jiyan DPS
Yinlin Sub-DPS
Jinhsi DPS
Changli DPS
Zhezhi Sub DPS
Xiangli Yao DPS

Zhezhi is not bad, but releasing her after that walking tease that is Changli was a mistake. In terms of gameplay she is not so indispensable for now and in terms of aesthetics she can only appeal to those who like characters with glasses.

Anyway I recommend waiting for 1.3, 1.2 is a filler update, if even 1.3 goes bad then we could say that the situation is catastrophic.
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>your country releases 1 game full of monsters and the one non-demonic male is a monkey who can’t even be called ”handsome” without feeling like you are nearly committing some crime
>get pissy
Why are women like this?
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>>1549317
>Zhezhi is not bad, but releasing her after that walking tease that is Changli was a mistake.
I don't think this is really the entire problem, but metafags won't roll either since Zhezhi is a marginal upgrade to Yinlin, and as it stands Yinlin works better in that team than any electro team, especially if you don't care for Calchud or Yao.
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>>1549319
Female ego
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>>1549218
is this a good or bad thing? will it become ultra pozzed now? or was he the problem?
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>>1549393
>ultra pozzed now
>now
Nothing is going to change.
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>>1549393
Nothing will change. I think Dawei is only stepping out because he's having health problems.
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>>1549396
Im not one to wish death upon people but...Nah fuck it I wish it upon anyone I remotely dislike, fry in hell dawei
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>>1549396
>cry like a bitch on stream
>step down due to "health issues"
Kek
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>>1549317
>>1549320
Another thing. Zhezhi's gameplay is just not... good. I have her since I got her really early but she's a little odd to use and her animations are slow by the other characters standards. She never had a chance.
She should've been the free character, not Yao.
Yao definitely feels way better to use, his animations are fast and flashier, and the most important thing, he's the first Wuwa character with the Matrix from PGR, which I'm sure Kuro will implement it more and more to Wuwa.
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>>1549317
>Lingyang DPS
>Jianxing Hybrid
>Jiyan DPS
>Yinlin Sub-DPS
>Jinhsi DPS
>Changli DPS
>Zhezhi Sub DPS
>Xiangli Yao DPS
I think I diagnosed a bigger problem with your list, lad
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>>1549415
well, i know nothing about chinese internal politics, or won't pretend to know either, just going by my western experience. a lot of times you have visionaries that get their vision accomplished and see sucess for it, but then (((investment))) comes in, and your original project gets completely taken over and there is nothing you can do about it except watch. Looking at what HI3 used to look like, I really doubt Dawei was the guy actively pushing for all the homoshit, and general bad direction. He's probably because rich enough and saw the numbers go up, when outside decision makers made him filthy rich, probably didn't like the direction himself, but said why would I fight me getting richer. It happens to a lot of these people, that's why they tend to step down from leadership roles and move to an island and enjoy their wealth. For all i know he's a giant faggot, and always wanted to run a globohomo tranny company, but i doubt it, that kind of person wouldn't come up with the original HI3.
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>>1549437
or he saw theres more money to be earned with this than HI3 direction. They did ask if people would be ok with male characters in honkai at some point, either early into GI release or prior to it
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>>1549438
well i'm not speaking specifically about HI3, I mean the company in general, original HI3 and original Genshin had soul they feel like they were made by passionate devs, HSR, modern genshin and zzz are soulless products, they are created by soulless globohomo demons
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>>1549440
>Why is the whole world suppressing Genshin Impact? Douyin suppresses it, Bilibili suppresses it, Tieba suppresses it , Tencent suppresses it, our Genshin Impact is so pitiful
KEK
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>>1549437
>just going by my western experience. a lot of times you have visionaries that get their vision accomplished and see sucess for it, but then (((investment))) comes in, and your original project gets completely taken over and there is nothing you can do about it except watch.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4VBqTViEx4
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>>1541139
If some Chinese pro ML with access to chinese networks is lurking here, i need your help, i have information that can kill the Blue archive CN server for good or at least damage Nexon and Yostar reputation even more.
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>>1549539
>doesn't post it
pussy
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>>1549542
Ok faggot, here is rentry.org/baexposed, objective? the same, damage the reputation and revenue of BA on chinkland even more, if chinks think the mahjong souls was NTR, this canon dyke is gonna cause massive meltdowns since her banner his coming in one week in the CN server, I am fucking retarded? yes, this could work? maybe and maybe no, I won't lose anything if i give it a try
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>Shigure
>the same character that tries to get you in bed with her
Weak.
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>>1549579
the alt is not available in CN yet Bwo.
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>>1549583
I mean, they probably would believe it just based on how witch hunty they are, but we'll see.
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This guy may not be a chink but he sure is just as mentally ill
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>>1549583
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1rw411k7PK/
I just think it's extremely funny that you think Chinks don't touch the Japanese version or whatever. These fucking leeches are swarming Gakumas and Uma as well.
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>>1549577
>>1549718
Oh nonononono, you're retarded plan is falling apart.
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>>1549722
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http://yaraon-blog.com/archives/263130
Huh I just found a nip article talking about the Firefly drama I didn't think they'd care about this.
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>I like it~
zzz bros...
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>>1549734
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>>1549734
>>1549736
>Firefly drama
QRD? Who she fuck?
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>>1549740
Firefly is modeled after Shoji's (the writer for peaconny) girlfriend.
ctrl + f "Firefly" ITT and read.
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>firefly fires reached the nip lands
Otoh, it feels like a chink infiltrated their matome sites.
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>>1549734
>[Sad News]
This always cracks me up.
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>>1549577
>>1549539
BAschizo, basically all the BA fans/player in chinkland already followed the JP server story-wise, bond stories included like with /bag/.
The majority of BAfag there already played on global server through VPN because Chinese server are censored shit compared to even global.
Shigure is even more for (You) compared to Nodoka and she's basically for (You) in both the original L2D and Onsen one.
Feel free to try, though. It will be hilarious
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>>1549734
Can't read shit, does it have any whale meltdown?
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>>1549756
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Stoat the one that gets put in jail because she keeps stalking you as well?
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>>1549393
Do you still believe that godforsaken company is capable of delivering a game not filled with ultra faggotry, like they did for the last decade?
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>>1549756
They're willing to latch onto anything, I'd like to see it happen too
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>>1549761
Nah, that's her friend that the schizo here >>1549577 think is being shipped with in-game. Even though Nodoka was stalking (You) the whole time and Shigure was even more forward towards (You) than her.
>>1549765
You are a retard then. The game is already out for 2 years. Most of the bond stories, L2D and events whatever are already translated on bilibili.
The problem with mahjong shit was no one saw it coming and basically the BA side got nothing from it, also BA anti latched on to that to shit on the game.
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>>1549741
>Firefly is modeled after Shoji's (the writer for peaconny) girlfriend.
The "proof" is:
-a few cherrypicked images from 2016 where the writer's ex-gf had grey hair... out of the hundreds of images he's posted of her
-the ex-gf wrote three suicide notes - maybe her being crazy is why that woman is his ex-gf

If the writer actually based Firefly on someone he knew, who would he be more likely to base her on?
>some crazy bitch he dated 8 years ago
>his current partner
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>>1549772
>chinks lacking imagination skills
that chicken DFE his socials right after the "expose" doesn't clear anything either. Has he posted anything after though ?
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>>1549772
What's the point of blatantly lying like this?
Those images are from 2019 and she is his current gf, not ex-gf. She has her hair in the exact color Firefly has, grey with greenish ends.
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>>1549735
Wait I thought ZZZ was all about flashy and whacky animations, but this looks like shit
Did shills lie to me?
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>>1549756
I mean she literal rejects your avances in the first memorial lobby, and the christmas mistranslation just adds fuel to fire, but maybe the schizo dont have the Hot Spring Shigure and he thinks she is lesbian because of that??? since she literal throws at you like full slut in that version, but meh idk Wakamo is my wife and she is superior to every student in BA.
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>>1549815
>your gameplay sir
anyone who tells you zzz is good, has never played a real video game before
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>>1549866
wow, just like real video game!
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>QUICK! The chuddies are leaving self-insert homoslop! Release the swimsuits and (You) pandering! Something we haven't done for 4 years since gayshin released!
They are so scared
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>>1549900
what does the female fanbase think about this
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>>1549900
Fuck, I think they got us real good this time, anti-mihoyosisters...
What's our counterpoint for this now?
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>>1549911
*yawn* censored child trash tier swimsuits, i guess pedos will be happy, call me when we get real mizugi
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>2 year lapse for swimsuits
>swimsuits in autumn
>still that conservativeness

No principles.
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>>1549915
If you're going to say that then at least post Rossana nikkefag.
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>>1549900
Holy shit they are desperate now, not going to work tho, straight males already left gayshin
>>1549915
Mihomo faggots will eat that dogshit censored designs and still call the best shit ever lmao
>>1549917
>No principles.
They never had one to begin with
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>>1549866
That's literally every Hoyocuck game. Just spam buttons to win and pay more money to deal more dmg. It's 0 skill gameplay made for women and low iq monkeys that never play video games before, much less any decent action game.
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>>1549734
>Posted 6 hours ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fplEpgZxyKk
>Posted 2 hours ago
Bros we have legit Hoyoshills lurking in this thread lmaoooo
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>>1549934
>dood we are billion dollah company ahahe but ethots are better at planning and accounting than us hihahe
and went back to males after that. Nobody can make this shit up.
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>>1549942
They always do that when their game starts going down, just see ToF as well getting desperate. First they started taking forever to release males, now they are adding a dorm system kek. Gayshit is no different and we all know that is just bait that is not going to work since straight males left and the devs for gayshit still trannies
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>>1549902
think they all left for that love deepussy game...
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>>1549900
>CG-only, not actually playable
mihomo has put characters in tons of different outfits as part of their promotional campaigns, none of which made it into the game in playable form, why should I care when this is barely any different?
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it would be hilarious if kinich ended up selling more than mualani
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>>1549950
>try to appease homofujos in sumeru
>then ditch them all in the next patch
i feel like every chink gacha is doing this nowadays but instead they would add males in the roster on release and never release another one later, why even add them anyway? did they really think omnipandering would attract more suckers to spend in their cashgrab? all that does is alienate the playerbase
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>>1549951
we will know soon in 2 days
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>>1549951
Is the infinite growth bullshit meme by the company and investors + the fact the devs for hoyocuck games are trannies that want the biggest amount of homo shit as possible
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>>1549950
>if kinich ended up selling more than mualani
I mean it's expected, she's a dark skinned character even the most hardcore waifufags don't like blacks.
Source is Teyvat Helper.
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>>1549962
dont trust poll because most if not all whales simply dont bother voting
women and slurpers like to vote cause it costs no money
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>>1549962
>most if not all whales simply dont bother voting
Only whales use that Wechat app for dick measuring contest, f2p players don't
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>>1549900
>mihomo started putting swimsuit and hard (you) pandering in desperation
Oh no, they're unstoppable now...
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>>1549967
>hard (you) pandering
Only if you're a woman, they're adding more males.
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>>1549911
cg only, chuddim
you rike?
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whaddaya mean CG?
You can't even get a bunch of pretend friends to your home world for a pretend beach party ? Might as well just put a staff member (male) in fundoshi and call it a day.

Captcha: 8MHY
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>>1549967
yeah, and they said the same about Nahida. Until mihomo confirm they replace the writing team, there's no trusting them. Now keep you eye out for Shenhe shipshit next.
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>>1549969
Hmm, i haven't touched the game since sumeru but I'll see to it myself if it's to my liking. If it's the same ol' bait and switch then yeah.
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Is it true that Hoyo storage is so bad that they had to delete male mc of one of their oldest games HI3? One would imagine that they'd be able to at least manage storage in a game that old.
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>>1549994
see >>1546183
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>>1549994
no thats the made up in-universe plot reason because the MC is an AI or something
The actual reason is, no one ever wanted a discount genshit MC in Honkai and hoyo is now trying to save face and win people back
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>>1549900
>and (You) pandering
You should check the leaked story, she is shipped with a man-let.
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Every poster in this thread should be sent to a gas chamber, including me if that's what it takes.
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>>1549795
>What, you mean I loved someone else's girlfriend?
KEK
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>>1549795
>>1550042
kek
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>>1549915
her booba looks flat af. Did their good l2d artist leave or something?
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>>1549940
>comments are full of homoslurper cuck
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holy sweet mother of schizo thread
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https://www.bilibili.com/opus/969969246587060227
Snowbreak being forced to censor things because of Google(might be the CCP, but recent happenings lean more towards Google)
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>>1550107
The snow has broken...
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>>1550107
Shouldn't be censored on PC right?
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>>1550107
>Snowbreak censored

well looks like it's over for the chink gacha industry.
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>>1550107
today shanghai gacha cartel won again
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>>1550114
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>>1550107
EOS soon
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>>1550107
There's zero chance this is Google.
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SB devs posted a preview of a futur skin
and said to don't worry
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>>1550138
Until the skin is actually in the game it can change 50 times and release with a burka instead of a miniskirt
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Seasun are a little pervy themselves, as evidenced in GGC skirt flipping, they probably will throw in sneakier shots. But honestly, really CCP ? Pixels are a threat to the future now ?
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>>1550107
all sexualized skins affected by censorship are skins released before it went to 18+: the 1.7
all sexualized skins released after 1.7, so released after they went to 18+ are not affected
and the skins released after 1.7 are much more sexualized than those released before, it seems like their age increases were not retroactive
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>>1550138
You can make as many sketches as you want, until it's in the game (which assumes the censorship community gave it the clear), it doesn't count.
And that's assuming they don't get hit with another post-release censorship.
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>>1550142
>it seems like their age increases were not retroactive
It is beyond retarded then
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Uninstall Hoyoshit games. Stop giving the games attention whenever there's content. Don't give them your money. If you are going to boycott, do it right.
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>>1550107
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
WHERE ARE YOU
WHERE ARE THE FUCKING NIGGERS THAT SAID CCP DIDN'T CARE
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This place is no different from a tieba forum full of changs raging.
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>>1550141
sexy women are the problem, but homos? trannies? Add an endless amount. Censorship always goes in one direction.
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>>1550158
It is google though, likely under mihoyo's influence, you realize there are a bunch of lewder games than snowbreak on the playstore? I know snowbreak gets a reputation, but it's really tame, especially if you don't buy any skins. All the default skins are bland as fuck.
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>>1550167
>It is google
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHA
Fucking GOOGLE told them to censor every version of their game?
God this is delicious. I've read all year that AL was self censoring everything and now you niggers have to eat that shit.
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>>1550170
so you think GFL2 will be safe then? they will go after everyone, why would you celebrate tranny? doubt they will fuck with the PC version, what's the point.
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>>1550172
>they will go after everyone
Hoyo games are safe, tho :)
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>>1550179
>zero ass shading
ofc they are :)
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>>1550179
>hoyo games
kek, a literal tranny >>>/lgbt/
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>>1550172
>w-what about gunniggers?
I want to see you suffer for being annoying faggots, and I can finally see it. You will invent 50 different copes instead of accepting you were wrong.
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>>1550185
kek admitting you're a butthurt /gfg/ cuck, sorry about raymond taking your girls
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>>1550189
See? You can't defend it anymore and started projecting immediately. It's hilarious.
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>>1550192
defend what? that they put lewd skins and now they're being forced to censor? what is there to defend? it hasn't even happened yet. or are you esl and don't understand english
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I do wonder how this will turn out for other fanservicey gacha, since you already know CN gachafags are crazy and will just mass report everything.
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>>1550193
But I thought the CCP didn't censor gacha. Why would they self censor like that? Do they hate their players too?
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>>1550196
i live in USA, i don't give a fuck about the CCP, i'm not going to defend them. I'm talking about jewgle, they withheld their update, why would jewgle listen to the CCP? I don't doubt those kikes would listen to them, but it's unlikely Xi called them up on the phone to tell them to censor snowbreak
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>>1550199
Yeah bro, google made a chinese company censor themselves.
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>>1550200
you're a fucking idiot, google withheld their update idiot, steam's update went through just fine, you don't even know what's going on. They could not update the game on the playstore. They told us because google didn't like the assets. Steam's update went through like normal. Now this information comes out that they need to censor. It's likely just going to be the appstore version, because why would they censor steams version when there is literal porn on steam?
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>>1550202
don't bother argue with his esl brain whitebro.
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>>1550202
Yeah bro, they are self censoring all their versions, because a version that's probably 15% of their revenue told them to censor more. All other gachas that release different censored versions were doing black magic.
God this cope is delicious.
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>p-please don't go
Don't care, fag. Uninstalled and I hope EOS bites your asses.
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>>1550141
No game, chong. Go fuck more, I need more babies for grinders.
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>>1550208
hoyodrone or guncuck?
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>>1550208
Bye, you won't be missed!
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it's snowver...
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>>1550214
>bystanders are now changs
Does your grinders accept pajeets ?
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You think too highly of yourselves, i almost feel pity.
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>>1550107
gachanigger tinydickshitskincucks btfo by another subhuman gachanigger jew developer
KEK
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This censorship of Snowbreak is just a way to rally their fans, I bet 99% it was fucking self-censored.
Every fucking gachadevs instead of developing their "games" properly, are always playing this fans manipulation trick, and gullible retards just gob it up, believing in "pitiful" devs
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>>1550244
Looks like some ML devs got salty about Snowbreak doing well so they ratted it out to the CCP, snowbreak producer even made a post calling them out. There is a loophole, the game was rated 12+ until patch ~1.7 but the devs went all-in on ML fanservice while it was still 12+ so many skins up to that point got censored because of the laws.With patch 1.8 they bumped the rating to 18+, so now it's not censored anymore.
So who's the snitch? Chinks on CN social media are already pointing fingers at manjuu.
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>>1550244
only pre 1.7 skins are censored >>1550142
this one is not affected
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>>1550248
Called it >>1550195
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>>1550244
you must be new to chink gacha
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>>1550248
i hope chinks burn down manjuu
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Honestly, deserved. It's been unpleasant to post on /vmg/ especially on promillia thread they kept trashing every gacha under the sun except for snowbreak. I don't know if it's shill or just unhinged schizo though.
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>>1550268
i only see 2 companies get trashed, and they deserve it, mica and homoverse, so you must be one of their cucks
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>>1550268
I'm willing to bet its either some schizo or a small group of shitposters. We've already seen the one guy who spams nga links and what not being a literal redditer.
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>>1550269
But seasun is also censored cuckshit now.
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>>1550270
Yeah it was comfy for the first three thread then they came along. Even blumineposters are giving up.
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>>1550270
>>1550273
All these threads boil down to is hearsay and witch hunting things they don't like. Doesn't help all the /vg/ schizos (Shay for example) come here stir up shit since /vmg/ jannies don't do anything about like /vg/ jannies do, surprisingly.
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>>1550273
hmm, yeah it wasn't all the off topic insufferable /gig/ posters, who are still shitting up the thread to this day, nope it's the snowbreak guys
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>>1550268
>It's been unpleasant to post on /vmg/ especially on promillia thread they kept trashing every gacha under the sun except for snowbreak
TO be honest with you I am pretty sure this "drama" thread thing isn't even following the rules since this isn't about a specific game and is just a huge shitposting containment thread.
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>>1550281
the point of this thread was to contain /gig/ posters who were shitting up the promilia thread, but those troons still go post there anyway, because they have no allies here
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why would GI posters and AP posters fight each other
their companies are literally allies
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>>1550248
Do note that report from player do jackshit and the only one that can make CCP moves is someone with connection with them. Chink is really retard if they think manjuu, the one that get hit by CCP hammer themselves, have the connection to do that.
>>1550268
Yeah, lmao. They deserved this. Now they can't blame another devs doing self-censored.
>>1550280
Nah, fag. There are 2 shitposters. Hoyotroon and Chink tribalist retard. Their writing styles are different to each other.
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>>1550273
>Even blumineposters are giving up
That was shit shitposter that was spamming the thread, funny how he stopped after this thread was made.
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>>1549791
>Those images are from 2019
One of the images had a 2016 date on it; I didn't see any images from 2019.

>she is his current gf, not ex-gf
Other people have said that woman was his ex. If she wasn't his ex, then surely the "detectives" would have posted more recent images than from 2016/2019, right?

>She has her hair in the exact color Firefly has, grey with greenish ends.
Part of her hair is literally blonde in one of those images.
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>>1550314
There is no point in trying to reason with these people, People will still claim MICA had a part in it even if they get slammed with censorship in the future for all the panties and what not.
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imagine being a subhuman gachanigger
your life is just sad
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Real talk, how much will this actually affect snowbreak?
What are the chinese saying?
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>>1550314
>Chink is really retard if they think manjuu, the one that get hit by CCP hammer themselves
debunked, CCP didnt touch azur lane at all
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>>1550351
Same as they didn't touch snowbreak, right?
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>>1550347
I doubt much at all, the devs already teased future designs so I doubt anything will happen going forward. We will see though. >>1550138
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>>1550354
proof that they touched snowbreak?
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>>1550358
So they are self censoring? Didn't know feminists took over.
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>>1550139
>>1550144
Schizos
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>>1550361
proof that they self censored?
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>>1550365
Do you have an explanation for how this happened?
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>>1550347
From what i'm understanding here nothing after age rating will be change and the only skins getting affect are the ones when the game was still 13+ age rating. There is a lot more lewd skin in snowbreak right now and none of them got touched other then those when the game was 13+
>>1550365
He is just a retarded shitposter, we already have MuMu post, one of the devs, explaining that is shit beyond their control. I would not be surprise if it is just google fucking them, since their new update got delayed by google a few days ago
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>>1550369
see >>1550107 and the reply chain
and this skin is still in the game >>1550249
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>Damage control team is here
Where do I sign up? I can work for free
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>>1550329
Yeah, but I at least want to let non-shitposter anon know. Lately I've seen about Duolou Dalu author. The modus operandi is the same. They have connection to CCP and use it to strike down their rival.
>>1550358
The proof is your axe wound. Insult aside, I hope that anon humor you and make you forget about your regret.
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we dont take hoyoshill in the team sorry
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>>1550374
>they are totally censoring everything bwos
>this is still in game and not being touched
Not to mention the marriage skins as well.
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>>1550377
But you already being doing that for free for gayshit shitpact tho
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>>1550378
my only regret is sharing a thread with retard like you
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Censoredbreak is over
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Spatsbreak: Censorship Zone
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>>1550380
realistically, what could stop them from re-releasing the old skins in later patch? since its technically 17+ rating game now
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Censorship status?
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>>1550358
Snowbreak had to raise it's rating to 18+ in chinkland because they don't want to censor anything.
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How it feels on the other end now, you dumb faggot. Next time stop shitting on unrelated thread.
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SEApag is winning, SnowCIScuck lost.
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>1550382
Uh-oh. Troon is melty, lmao. Well I just hope this will at least make you a bit happy, because we know you won't get true happiness ^_^
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>>1550387
No idea, I'm not sure exactly how CN handles these sort of things. I don't think they would waste man time remaking some of the older skins when people can already get them now and just keep the same thing.
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>dont even dare to directly quote
kwab
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>censorbreak
>meanwhile we still have >>1550380 >>1550249 and many more lewd skins
Hoyocuck really thinks that will stick lol
>>1550387
Who knows, but i think is easier for them to release new lewd skins for those characters. I think Katya was already confirmed to get a new one
>>1550391
>Admits being a seamonkey and a tranny
holy shit
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>1550397
Yeah, anon. I'm scared. Not from your appearance, of course. Don't worry, anon. You're not that ugly.
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>>1550396
its funny how L&D could get away with this but not SB
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>still dont even dare to directly quote
kwab
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>>1550401
Realistically, half naked men like that aren't as "sexualized" as women are.
>b-b-but
Yes, I know, it is a huge double standard and it is unfortunately the world we live in.
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>>1550401
>straight male pandering = bad
>straight female pandering = good
But i would not get surprised if this gacha gender war gets so heated that will end up affecting them in the future maybe
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the working theory rn is that only things from before the age rating change are affected, for now, no one can tell if the promises that future things wont be affected is real or not. The only thing we know for certain is that if they do break that promise, they won't win players trust back
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>>1550408
> gacha gender war
>what I thought: waifufags vs yumejos
>what actually happened: waifufags vs homofujotroons
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>>1550401
It's always depend whether someone with CCP connection have the incentive to do so or not. And CCP still need to play by law. In AL case, they break no-poligamy policy and using the depiction of CCP enemy. In Snowbreak case, they technically violated age rating.
>>1550405
Oh, I don't know you need this, anon. If this will make you happy, then I will do it. You'll need every happiness you can get before you see your own reflection afterall.
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>>1550414
After only those got affect was from the game was 13+ i'm 90% sure it was because the age rating thing. But that also means something very important for every new gacha game in the future tho. Every new gacha must come with the 18+ age rating on the game release or else will get subjected to get censored
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>>1550414
>>1550419
Being serious here, I don't think mumu would have shown off that sketch if things were bleak for the future. I am also pretty sure they would have verified the content that isn't touched. )Last patch and this patch) If it was just going to get hit later on. We'll see when they show the preview for the next patch for sure.
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Snowcultists blames everything, shit on everything, and I'm glad you finally get the justice you deserved. You faggot are like niggers with dindu nuffin self-victimization mentality, and just a general eyesore in every thread.
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>>1550417
and now you quoted both of my posts, how cute
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>>1550424
Hows Azur Promilia doing?
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>>1550423
>I don't think the director/whatever of the game would shill and pretend everything is daijoubu
Really nigger?
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>>1550423
Unfortunately a sketch doesnt matter, the only thing that matters is how it looks like ingame
>>1550424
meanwhile you have snowbreak living rent free in your head by the looks of it
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>>1550430
If he lies the game is completely fucked and they die. If he told the truth and wasn't sure how things would go in the future, people might be more understanding. Its pretty fucking simple retard.
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>>1550423
No, what Mumu is doing is just damage control for now to not get players riled up. If it was not the age rating thing, the game would censor the lewder skins first, since they are the show more skin and would cause more problem for the company. That didn't happen since those skins got release when the game was already 18+
>>1550424
rent free nigger
>>1550429
Pretty sure all those fags melting right now are from the Azur Promilia thread from here + /gig/ers
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>>1550432
If he said nothing it would also die.
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>this was too much for the CCP
Seriously? This shit makes 0 sense.
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It's jeet hours the amount of low iq and esl posting is higher than usual
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>>1550441 (me)
Especially when this exists.
It just makes me more inclined to believe its some bullshit age rating loophole like other anons were saying.
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>chinkcels are now officially homeless
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>>1550442
We literally had one admitting being a seamonkey so >>1550391
>>1550441
>>1550445
Not to mention the marriage skins and the big tits monster they just released this patch. All roads leads to the 12+ age rating thing, something that could affect new gacha games releases
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>>1550449
Yeah I said it before, but I wonder if GFL and other gachas will bump their rating expecting this to hit them too. Esecially GFL since they have been showing off the panties and what not.
You'd think gacha(gambling) based games would be past 12+ anyways, but here we are.
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>>1550263
>>1550248
Then just write an inquire to the relevant department, just as what they have done with Azur Lane.
If the government said they didn't require censorship, then it must be self-censorship as with the case of Mihomo and Azur Lane.
I dare your Snowbreakfaggots to do the same thing
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>>1550454
They probably will have to if they want to keep releasing those lewd skins
>You'd think gacha(gambling) based games would be past 12+ anyways, but here we are.
I think 12+ gacha days are over for pseudo coomer games, they will either commit to lewd or suffer from censorship. I wonder what will happen with AP, they have the advantage for not being out yet and change everything to be affected
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>>1550457
>I wonder what will happen with AP, they have the advantage for not being out yet and change everything to be affected
Can they? I thought they were locked in to their license.
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>>1550454
16+ games are safe, unless seasun is lying.
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>>1550456
>ESL seapag melty
>>1550460
There is nothing locked for them, any game can change their age rating, even after the game is out. Azur lane and Snowbreak did that, not to mention bd2 but that's a korean game
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>>1550463
Is GFL2 already a 16+ game?
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>people already uninstalling snowbreak
It's really over. Can't say I'm sad, fuckers really brought this to themselves.
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>>1550456
So you know chinese? You know the correct way of contacting CCP? Do tell us more anon
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>seapag /gig/er still malding
kek
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>>1550456
low iq kun, they already said they self-censored, no one except seapags/jeets are blaming the ccp. they hinted it was gacha cartel influence, but didn't name any names
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>>1550464
If there is no official info from the government, then it must be self-censorship, that's all. Both Azur Lane and Mihomo have been proven to be self-censored already
>>1550469
Check NGA: https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=41433616
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>>1550466
Yes.
https://gf2.sunborngame.com/main
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>>1550475
>it must be a self censor
>lewder skins after the age rating up still untouched
>random NGA post
>devs already confirmed lewder skins for those that got affected
Trying to hard seamonkey
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>>1550460
AP is already censored, it's a genhomo clone, even giggers make fun of it calling it spatsmillia
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>>1550479
Oh, so probably nothing will happen with them
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>>1550474
Anon, They literally said they there was legal action that is forcing them to do this. The only person who could levy legal action IS the CCP.
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>>1550480
I only believe in official info, not a single game company now is trustworthy
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>>1550480
ESL-kun...
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>>1550484
>says that he only believes in official info
>but also keeps creating fanfics of what happened clamming that was a self censor when the game itself proves you wrong
Seamonkey-bro, i know your IQ is very low but that's just embarrassing
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>now homocuck changed their angle of attack by blaming other games
Everyone can lie and cry like a pussy but currently only SB and LDS are the ones that actually deliver their promises to their audience. No homos, no shipping and a very for (you) content.
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>>1550490
Exactly like that, meanwhile snowbreak patch right now is this
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>>1550483
where is the proof then, did they post it? or are you speculating. Why would the CCP go after only them then? Why did steams update go through just fine, when the issue was with the google appstore. Why would google enforce chinese matters in America? My understanding is that CN uses a different appstore from google? Then why is google enforcing chinese laws? Why isn't manjuu being censored, or GFL2 or GFL1 or neural cloud?
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>>1550486
This is what Malafaggots had argued about the truth behind Azur Lane.
If a game really being censored by CCP, it would be taken off from ALL app stores, and only added back after through checking of contents that violated regulations.
This is clearly a case of self-censorship
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>>1550490
it really is a jealousy thing isn't it? they pretend like censorship is good, and (You) pandering is for incels, but then they look at games like snowbreak with pure envy.
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where's the new bread?
I'm baking btw
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>>1550495
>but then they look at games like snowbreak with pure envy.
Its not exactly that, it is that the players are happy.
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>>1550494
>another random post, now from tieba
>still creates fanfics of what happened
>Meanwhile the game still have this >>1550492
Seamonkey /gig/er... Your efforts are useless
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>>1550497
don't be retarded, we still have 2 gacha drama threads up right now
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>>1550500
So what? It's because fucking self-censorship that it can be that selective about what to censor!
Remember:
1. If it's really CCP censorship, it must be deleted/changed immediately, not as this retarded limited time before taken off from buying
2. Iron Fist (CCP censorship) is AOE, that means MANY GAMES WILL ALSO HAVE TO CHANGE

So the only answer for this stupid drama is that Snowbreak just self-censored itself in order to pass the Google censorship requirements, but put the blame onto CCP. Fucking manipulative bastards
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>>1550494
LMAO. It's honestly funny. They are shitting another game with self-censorship talk and then hailing Snowbreak as a hero just for it to get hit with it.
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>>1550509
>another random chink tieba post
If you think im reading your shitpost you must be more retarded than i thought seamonkey-bro.
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>>1550512
Yes, but that's the contribution of Malafags for discover the truth behind self-censorship. Before that, we just naively believe CCP censorship, when the truth is totally different, for example, now we know that the touch mechanics of Honkai Impact 3 was censored by that fucking "real Fu Hua", and not CCP
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>>1550514
It was a good run honestly, oh well I always wanted to free up space on my disk
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>>1550513
If you cannot read MTL chinese then you don't even any qualification to debate, every info you got are just from tertiary sources (not even secondary sources)
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>>1550495
It's pretty much that and the fact they can't have a (you) pandering game around for people to make comparisons with other games. Now they have to try and make a new narrative that is somehow a self censor and the game will remove (you) pandering. Meanwhile the game keeps releasing a bigger for (you) character after another
>>1550517
>if you don't read random chink comments you are not qualified
LMAO Seamonkeys cannot be this retarded.
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It's a good time to boot up AL again now JP anniv is near.
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>>1550521
this is a terminal case of slurper, instead of slurping up hoyoshits, this fag slurps seaslug shits. no wonder gaming industry is so cancerous.

ALL GACHA GAMES ARE BAD if slurpers still exist, that's the truth slurpers cannot ever deny, no matter what
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>Hoyocucks pretending to have snowbreak installed
lol can't make this up
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So what's the narrative now? Snowgger self censored or forced by CCP?
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>>1550525
self censored (it's high chance because of Google)
I'm waiting for the chinks tomorrow to get the answer from government.
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>>1550523
>meanwhile you're still here, in a gacha drama thread even
Holy shit you are that hoyocuck that keeps parroting the same shit nonstop while still searching for gacha content in a gacha board KEK
>slurper
Saying this while slurp tranny hoyocuck games lmao
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>>1550512
post like this, just make third worlders look so bad, like room temperature IQ, I'm being serious, not even shitting on you.

How hard is it to understand that difference between someone like mihoyo who censors to appease fujos, gays, trannies, because they know they have an army of simps that will still paypig their game regardless of how much they shit on them vs something like
>>1550509
>So the only answer for this stupid drama is that Snowbreak just self-censored itself in order to pass the Google censorship requirements
being forced to censor arbitrarily because of corporate sabatoge, rival companies reporting you to google because you are hurthing their profit margins. Snowbreak is self-censoring because they are being forced to by outside forces, it's not like they hired a bunch of feminists who hate the designs and are changing them internally for ideological reasons. If it weren't for what happened a few days ago, they would still be releasing lewd outfits par the course, it's their prime selling point, why would they want to kill their own profits?
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>>1550525
>>1550526
Your reasoning still makes - fucking sense.
Why is this skin being "censored" >>1550441 why would this even need to be touched. Why did all the swimsuits that are objectively more lewd than anything they are removing remaining untouched?
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>>1550527
You cannot read? I attack ALL gacha games. ALL OF THEM
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>>1550525
>So what's the narrative now?
That they are self censoring while in fact they just got screwed by the fact those skins got released while the game was still 12+
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I'm not sure why you people are calling it self-censoring when they are in a "get rid of this or else" situation. That isn't them doing it themselves lmao.
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>>1550529
What I hate the most is dishonest devs, if it's really because Google requirements, then just say so, but they still have the nerve to blame CCP instead.
Do they really treat players as kids?
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>>1550530
Bullshit faggot, you defend hoyocuck games while pretending to hate everything. BTW You're still here in a gacha drama thread crying about gachas, so KILL YOURSELF retard
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>>1550534
Just point to any post of me defending mihomo, I dare you
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>>1550533
All they have officially said is that it is forces outside their control. So that either means the CCP or Google.
Azur Lane does the same shit where their skins are sold for only a few days before they have to stop. Since that isn't a problem anywhere BUT CN AL, I can only assume it has to do with the CCP.
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>>1550535
Do you think you are on reddit faggot? People know from the way you write your shitpost retard. Meanwhile you're still here pretending to cry about gachas while going to a dead /vmg/ thread about gacha drama, fucking LOW IQ MONKEY
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>>1550538
>forces outside their control
Just write it out clearly, Google or Government Regulation
But doesn't matter, the chinks will ask the government anyway
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>>1550539
so you cannot, right? ahahahahaaa
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>>1550542
Reddit is that way seamonkey. BTW you're still here on a gacha thread pretending to be mad about gacha? Low iq subhuman
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>>1550541
>Just write it out clearly, Google or Government Regulation
They probably can't say anything, at least not right now.
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>>1550532
>People
It's just shitposter.
Any change made that results in less revenue obviously isn't developer intention.
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>>1550544
You think we defend gacha shitty practice?
Lurk more, faggots >>1543603
>Conclusion first:
>1. "2D games" are not worthy of being called games. They are essentially just brothels opened in casinos with a video game sign hung at the door.
>2. Gacha/Gachapon are poison to the industry. If they are allowed to spread, real games will eventually be squeezed out and even become increasingly obsolete.
>3. If the gambling practice of manufacturers/industry is not overturned, video games will never be good. Not only the gameplay, but they can't even make the sex content of the game good. Let me clarify my position again: I have no problem with sex content. I mentioned it when I first participated in the discussion on Sohu. It is instinctive and can even be described as "natural". There is nothing to be embarrassed about.
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>>1550532
because they still have the option of leaving steam client, and the stand alone client alone, but instead they will only do 1 version for everyone, which is bad, they should just censor the appstore one, last origin does this, that way we won't have issues going forward.
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>>1550546
It gets more obvious when that was the thing that saved Snowbreak from getting EOS.
>>1550547
>seamonkey still pretending to hate on gachas while searching for a dead gacha drama thread on fucking /vmg/, another dead place
Kill yourself low iq subhuman
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>>1550551
cope more, illiterate mutt
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>>1550532
People in "get rid of this or else" situations with an authoritarian government don't have a few days to profit.
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>>1550553
>can't refute the fact he still here on a dead gacha drama thread talking about gachas, on fucking /VMG/ of all places
Seamonkeys like you should be banned out of the internet
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what a great day to be F2P
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>>1550557
why?
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>(((Unpredictable)))
>There is no such thing as regulation. It is the manufacturer's independent behavior. There is no such thing as removal from the shelves. It is the manufacturer's hunger marketing.
>Why does this plot seem to have been performed by someone else?
>The manufacturer's self-directed and self-acted hype is here again
>Genshin censored 4 characters, which should be the case
>So is it Iron Fist, or is it the manufacturer's self-castration?
>I've seen this on nga, it's self-castration
>It was only taken off the shelves after being sold for several days. Isn't this pure hunger marketing and self-castration?
>Self-castration, self-directed and self-acted, out-of-print promotion. I suggest calling the higher-ups to ask if there are any rectification notices.
>Combined with the news that Google Play failed to review, it's quite interesting
>This incident is also recorded in Azur Lane and Cross Front
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>>1550557
>>1550558
>※The cease of sale will not impact your ownership or use of the outfits if you have already purchased them, nor will it impact the related covers or avatars unlocked upon purchase.
That's from their official twitter. Looks like that will only affect new buyers, if you had already bought the skins they will remain unchanged.
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>>1550565
>Looks like that will only affect new buyers
They are running the skins for a limited time until the 30th, after then they will not be available again.
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>>1550567
So looks like they just can't have those in the store and they don't care about people already having them. It really looks like the age 12+ rating loophole is real
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>>1550569
I'm willing to believe it for now. We'll see when the next set of skins are shown.
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>>1550558
No feeling of being too attached to whatever you're playing.
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>>1550574
nta but i think that really depends on the person. I know some people that would waste hundreds of dollars and not really give about the game he is playing, because he is just using money to get something faster. And i also know F2P players that are so invested that makes the game they are playing their second life.
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>>1550574
i'm not attached to any game, i've left games where i spent thousands of dollars without looking back, but no one can deny that snowbreak has been the dark horse amongst gacha, it's forced other companies to change the way they do business. Look at gfl2 they were all covered up in spats and now the game is lewd as fuck, probably lewder than snowbreak, even brought back oaths, same goes for aether gazer, tower of fantasy, azur lane. This is happenening because it scares a lot of bigger people *cough mihomo*
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>>1550587
>i'm not attached to any game
I feel the same way about games right now, maybe 10 years ago it was different, but now idc. I also agree with the last part, they are targeting the game like crazy after they went full (you) pandering
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>>1550583
Yeah i also know some competitive lot but between too rich to care and casual f2pleb it's easier to be the latter.
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>>1550599
Maybe, but from my experience i see a lot more of F2P players being a lot more invested, but you know that's my personal experience with them.
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>>1550587
>GFL2 brought back oaths
It's a fucking joke compared to GFL1 and Azur Lane; you can tell the devs have a clear disdain for the very concept
>aether gazer
Was already seeing a noticeable shift long beforehand with the chinkwank patch, probably helps that they had 3 or 4 male SSRs in a row nearly tanking thier game not long before that. Also a recent incident with some skins shows femoids still have SOME power over AG and the devs haven't told THEM to fuck off like Snowbreak did
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>>1550347
it's a literal nothingburger, the seethers masturbating in this thread are the real clowns
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Only clear refund would make players believe in the devs!
It's time to implement the last phase of "Having men not play", Refundable!
>The review system is not normalized and transparent. The same drama will continue to be played out. How long will they remain numb? How long will they endure? How many times will they be betrayed before these otakus wake up?
>No need to make such grandiose claims, speak in human terms. It is not enough for you to trust the manufacturer, the manufacturer also needs to trust you.
>I made 6,000 yuan and I need to prove myself to the manufacturer? Is it the mafia or a pyramid scheme?
>What I mean is that the manufacturer has to bear the risk, and the risk should be in the hands of the players . This is what it means to "the manufacturer has to trust you"

>The refund was originally issued after "Having men not play", but now there are people who oppose the refund.
>It seems that after saying for so long that we won't support xz, some people have become xz. It's not that I want to go after Chen Bai, but it's necessary for Chen Bai and lhm. Their reputation among the bar friends is earned through actions, not unconditionally.
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>>1550680
we must put the gacha industry destruction plan in action.
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>>1550683
Only by cleansing all of them, from the sinful Shanghai cartel to the Guangdong gang, that all under the heaven can be in peace!
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>>1550680
Kill
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SEAchads run this board and /vg/ cope racist cucks
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>>1550693
What pride flag is this?
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>>1550680
>>1550683
>>1550686
>>1550693
>incoherent ai translated ching chong ping pong
>3 pages chink site of some random chinks comments
>the author of the post says something about drawing cuckshit for some reason?!
This whole post just scream mental illness
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>>1550726
gachafag pride worldwide
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>>1550719
>seamonkey cope
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>>1550641
So nothing new under the sun again, just another excuse for some retards to seeth about the game
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>>1550743
well it showed that it really makes troons seethe, was funny to watch, also proves oyohim fears a tiny company
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>>1550749
Yeah, its funny how a small game like snowbreak makes so many trannies seeth just because of the (you) pandering. But then again, retards will find anything to be mad about games made for straight males, just see the Wukong drama
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>>1550751
They are terrified of other games following suit so they really, really want to make an example of it so no one else steps out of line.
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no need to samefag bwo
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>muh oyohim boogeyman
>it's le ummkay when our company does censorship
KWAB
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>trannies back to seething again
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>>1550752
The gacha mafia is real
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>>1550754
They are no different from hoyoslurpers crying about muh Tencent. Instead of fighting for players right, they just want to "protect muh small indie devs"!
Don't care, kill all gacha games.
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>>1550760
>kill all gacha games
>still plays them
>still talks about them
>not only that, but also in this dead thread about gachas drama
Did you ever tried not going here and not playing gacha games retard? Literally turn off your monitor and gtfo
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>>1550762
poorfag pls understand
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>>1550763
>calls others poorfags
>still cries about gacha
>still goes into what he supposedly hates to bitch and cry about it
>still plays them
>still here crying on this gacha drama thread on /vmg/
Actually fucking retarded
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>>1550764
i was calling him a poorfag, should have wrote it better. Ironically he's complaining about slurpers when he likely is one, because they're the ones with the horrible monetization, while snowbreak charges $15-20 for a skin, characters have 100% drop rates, and no dupes needed.
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>>1550765
My bad too then. But that comment still works perfectly for him.
>Ironically he's complaining about slurpers when he likely is one, because they're the ones with the horrible monetization, while snowbreak charges $15-20 for a skin, characters have 100% drop rates, and no dupes needed.
Makes sense he is just deflecting to protect whatever is his favorite gacha.
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>>1550772
>half of the posts are just schizo ramblings
>don't even know what he is saying is true since CN talks in idioms and shit so you need a key to know what they mean
>just devovles into shitflinging on shit he doesn't like
They are just worthless posts, he talks them and spams them on /vg/ too.
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>>1550772
>The posts are absolutely worthless.
I can see that, going there is just a bunch of randoms talking, their comments is worth just as much as any shitty comment here on 4chan.
>>1550773
Can't even understand half of what he is saying either, just a bunch of shitty ai translated comments of some randoms lol
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>>1550772
Here's what I think they're trying to say, they have moved goalposts from "men won't play games with male characters", to games need more fairer monetization, like clear cut pricing instead of obfuscation through gems and currencies, and the ability to refund purchases.
Eh, I don't really care about this personally, this is something else, it seems like they want gaming to move away from gambling to the western monetization model, buy the game for a premium, own it, etc. This is an eastern gambling addict problem, i don't drop thousands in one day, i buy monlthy and battlepasses occasionally and drop the game whenever i feel like, f2p model doesn't bother me.
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>>1550781
Then seems that Wukong finally opened their eyes
That they can make games without them being always just gachaslop
Good for them, honestly
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wukong deez nutz ha ha
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>>1550781
That doesn't make any sense if the subject for that is snowbreak since just like this anon said >>1550765 the game already have a 100% banner and cheap skins that has no gacha involved and no need to farm dupes. Plus me going there with a translator just seemed that he was a crazy chink rambling nonsense and talking about drawing cuckshit for some reason.
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>>1545787
look tranny, I know you've got some craxy convoluted agenda going on in your head to own the incels when you posted that, but what you're doing is just being inexplicably retarded, ie. noise no better than spam. shut up already
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>>1550834
mald harder, thirdworld subhuman
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>>1550864
>says the faggot that cannot stop seething about gachas in a gacha board, about gacha dramas on fucking /vmg/ of all places
>inbreed subhuman projects his life onto other people
Seapag or just another seething pajeet?
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>>1550874
>gacha board
rope yourself, esl shitskin
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>>1550874
It's a mobile board and not a gacha board. Some of the game that advertise themselves as gacha runs poorly on mobile. A lot of those are shilled here by chinkshills.
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New Love and Deepspace drama
A rapper dropped a diss track about LaD, otome games, its manufacturers and players
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Sn4y1f7AG

"B" = otome

It went viral immediately. Love and Deep Space threatened to sue. Now there's a war on Weibo about whether otome games are exploitative to young women and children.
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>>1550945
China feels like a crab bucket
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>>1550864
everyone knows what you're pulling, and if they don't they do at this point, as was the case with "blumine". so I suggest you save the effort and us from your impotent spam.
probably too hard of a concept to grasp for a turd worlder sea nigger chink-hybrid mutt AND a video game retard.
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>>1550945
Breaking news, all types of video games are exploitative, indeed probably all forms of entertainment, there is nothing to discuss.
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>>1550945
>Love and Deep Space threatened to sue.
how come we don't get companies as based as this? why can't men ever stand up for their own?
>>1550960
men are the definition of crabs in a bucket, spammer.
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Today is an exciting days for drama, even if compensation came out, the crisis of trust cannot be ended that easily, more importantly the hope for refund is very low.
This is a big blow to the "service attitude" motto of Snowbreak. How this will unfold in the future, we can only wait.

Moreover, there is no info about official info about censorship yet. This put another question, if censorship order is only passed down informally just by a single phone call, and without any red-sealed document, how could we know whether a game such as Genshin, Azur Lane, etc. was self censored or censored by government order? This is a very bad situation for players, because any company can put the blame to the CCP without any kind of proof.

More excitingly, this also makes people notice the elephant in the room. If Snowbreak was really censored by government order, then why such borderline soft-porn game Love and Deepspace can escape the censorship. Are CCP really turn the blind eyes to female-oriented pornography contents, but attack male-oriented pornography contents severely!? How could they claim to be "socialism", treating everyone equally?
Therefore Tieba Malafags are now rallying to attack Love and Deepspace: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9148430523
>1. The rapper's slogan is "otome games poison the next generation", which coincides with the parents who oppose games on dy. We only need to lead the rhythm to otome games.
>2. It is very beneficial for those parents and marketing accounts to get attention, and it is in line with their values.
>3. It can also make otome games suffer a wave of iron fists - the stereotype of otome games is that they are experts in internal wars and amateurs in external wars. Facing these pre-modern parents, they can attract firepower.
>4. Those parents' reporting buttons are much more flexible than ours - their organizational skills and voice are also very large.
Let see how the CCP treat Love and Deepspace
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>>1551023
lol it'd be funny if chink femcels got a taste of their own medicine
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>>1551023
https://x.com/SnowbreakP0720/status/1828412135870996927
If this is anything to go buy, it was probably the CCP. Currently there is no reason to believe Season did it of their own volition.
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>>1551029
This is very bad situation, because now Genshitters can also claim they were also censored by CCP, not by their own feminist employees, because there is no official document!
Damn it, just when I thought we have an upper hand against mihoyo and the other companies
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>>1551038
Anon, they already claim it was the CCP. Literally nothing has changed.
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>>1551040
Yes, but we can always refute with "Then why Snowbreak wasn't censored?", but now Snowbreak was also censored without any official document, we lost one of our strongest weapons against those companies.
Actually, it would be fucking great if there is an official document for Snowbreak, then we can 100% argue that Genshin, Azur Lane were definitely self-censored!
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>>1551047
We never had a official document for Genshit or AL getting censored, but we always knew it was CCP meddling
The reason SB got to run free as it did so far has another explanation, and thats how lax CCP reach has become after they nearly sudoku'd their own gaming industry
But clearly they are either up to their old bullshit again or mass reporting actually matters
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>>1551047
AL is harder to say because they've been hit multiple times, and one of them for a fact was the CCP. so it is hard to say.
Genshin, I can understand the first one being the CCP, but the 3 Rosaria nerfs in a row? That just seems weird, why would the change something and then get it okay'd then just have to change it again.
>>1551053
I think Snowbreak's case is different since it seems to be a a law broken, and not like the same situation as the other games that were censored in the past.
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>>1551053
>but we always knew it was CCP meddling
For Genshin, I think not. That game was too mid to deserve CCP censorship, it's very high chance that they self-censored themselves, consider their feminists were already there since 2014 (Fu Hua). But now we're back to no proof again.

>>1551057
>I think Snowbreak's case is different since it seems to be a a law broken, and not like the same situation as the other games that were censored in the past.
Then show us the laws, order, or any document. I'm really disappointed with how CCP handled things, especially how they allow Love and Deepspace to exist, but heavily cracked down on male-oriented games. Tiebafags also discovered that Love and Deepspace website doesn't have any logo about age-rating!
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>>1551058
>Then show us the laws, order, or any document
I don't know CN laws nor would know where to look. All I can go off of is what other Chinese people have said and my other thoughts based on the selection of skins being removed and other things that were untouched.
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>>1551047
which is why you keep archives, the internet remembers even when companies and government washes and sanctions. MHY is vain enough to litter the boards with evidence of tampering, as evidenced by the findings above.
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>>1551023
Very good. The gacha industry destruction plan is progressing smoothly.
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Here: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9148498561
>I heard that a certain game had no rating mark, so I decided to try it. Guess what, maybe my level is limited, I really didn’t find the mark. The following is a comparison with Qiannian and Chenbai
People try to find the age-rating mark of Love and Deepspace but cannot find it.
Meanwhile, other games all have the age-rating mark.
Let see if Papergames will add it tomorrow, kek
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Now that the pandora's box of censorship has been opened again, it cannot be closed. Player trust on gachas was already at a historical low due to all the scandals this past year, but now that at anytime your stuff can get censored by the company it has now fallen off a cliff. Angered players are now trying to report every game they see to get it censored, and a growing number of them just want every gacha game to die.

I'm afraid that the chink gacha industry, which has already declining, is now accelerating its death.
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Is this your first experience with a chinese gacha? Reading this shit really makes it seem like it.
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>calling censorship 'adjustments'
Gives me a chuckle every time
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>>1548700
dunno, sounds like the average /vg/ thread to me.
>>1548710
the death of greenlignt is a god damn travesty, not only for this but for indies in general. the glut of slop garbage in the market crowding out the high effort ones who aren't willing to invest time, money or effort into independent marketing.
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>>1549150
yoga. tech soibois are getting into it en masse for uncontested pussy and it's been causing a stir
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>>1551023
Thanks, China Informer.
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>>1551047
>>1551053
im getting mixed messages here >>1543256
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>>1551346
Personally, I wouldn't believe anything I can't verify myself, and since I am not chinese I can't verify that.
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>>1551092
>People try to find the age-rating mark of Love and Deepspace but cannot find it.
wtf why do femcels get away with everything?
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>>1551092
>>1551352
am i missing something
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>>1551357
That's global, the chinks are talking about CN ver
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>>1550170
what does GOOGLE have to do with censorship in CHINA?
god gameniggers are literally the dumbest group of "people" on this website.
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itt gacha drama more like incel drama
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>>1551101
>is now accelerating its death.
Don't worry. Natlan releases today and it will save the industry.
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>>1551082
Don't get too excited, when the revenue from gacha taxes will decrease significantly the government will have no choice but to loosen its grip on the industry, remember that, unfortunately, money is and will always be the most important thing until human society decides to change.

Just because you may not realize it, but if CCP has such control over gacha, what stops them from having the same control over standalone games? The crusade against gacha that is being carried out is nothing but self-destruction.
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>>1551440
Whoever is in charge of marketing at mihoyo should be replaced, that image is really ugly, it looks like something for toddlers.
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>>1551473
>it looks like something for toddlers.
Why are you acting surprised that the game is designed to appeal to kids and women?
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>>1551478
Why won't you let me hate things i hate?
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>>1551478
Because this is one of the ugliest I've seen since I started playing especially because it's tied to an AQ and not a filler event.
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>>1551440
i'm just like kaveh, i can finally play as my true gender a woman
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>>1551023
hope they censor the shit out of it, if men can't have lewd, women can't either
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>>1551580
They should double tap Oyohim games as well.
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>>1551440
>afraid to draw her with even a little bit of cleavage in promo art

Hahahahaha.
Game died with Inazuma. Long live the Raiden Shogun, the last Genshin female character that was allowed to have feminine traits.
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Love of Night and Light
Some dude posted "Am I the only guy playing this game?" on Weibo using the game hashtag. Also with his selfies with the game's love interest.
A female player saw it and got so disgusted she paid him 600RMB ($84) to delete his Weibo account.
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>no male NPC on your send off
lol they're trying hard eh kek
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>>1552097
damn dawei is pandering hard, game is porn now, still won't play
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>>1552089
Free money, lmao
Dumb feminists
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Natlanbros.......
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>>1552192
j-just wait til 5.2, m-mauvika will save us! the (You) pandering is coming dawei p-promised!
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>>1551023
>More excitingly, this also makes people notice the elephant in the room. If Snowbreak was really censored by government order, then why such borderline soft-porn game Love and Deepspace can escape the censorship. Are CCP really turn the blind eyes to female-oriented pornography contents, but attack male-oriented pornography contents severely!? How could they claim to be "socialism", treating everyone equally?
I thought the answer was always obvious. The CCP arbitrarily censors things, and changes what is censored on a whim, so one thing can be censored one day and uncensored the next, or vice versa. The fairness comes in that everything is subject to the same randomness.
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>>1551023
>>1551029
>>1551038
are you two stupid? the smoking gun for self censoring was the response stating very clearly that they had not requested the respective devs to censor anything. until we get screens of mail that puts all of this in writing can you start with any of your retarded speculation. either snowbreak was censored by the ccp, or it hasn't. anything inbetween means it remains inconclusive, like self censorship was for the longest time.
going after lads is a good idea because it lights a fire under the ass of the ccp for a response. it is only after the ccp makes their move that we start drawing conclusions.
never let a gaymer do deductive reasoning, jesus. even the redditors are better at this.
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New Genshin survey asks if you played Snowbreak or Love and Deepspace recently
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>>1552327
Screenshot from CN, I'm queueing in Genshin Cloud to check if it's in the English survey as well
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damn, game bad, devs bad, players, all cancer. still playing thoughbeit
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i will mindlessly consoom slop and you cannot stop me
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>>1552333
I checked, they are not in
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>>1552361
>sex update
>but only for CN
Globalbros, not like this...
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>>1552097
No, those are the only characters who have nothing to do all day in Fontaine. Of the characters who participated in the AQ, Neuvillette is busy all day, Wriothesley runs a prison, Sigewinne is a prison nurse, and Arle, Lyney, Lynette, and Freminet are busy with the Fatui. Chevreuse, Chiori, and Emilie are filler characters, so they don't count.

Bottom line, they're not trying too hard, if there's pandering it'll be in Natlan.
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>>1552409
Holy SEX



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