>>1547776
Is she as good as Acheron?

>>1548561
Hard to say, shes definitely a top tier ST dps, so along with boothill acheron and FF arguably the best you can get atm
She uses the same team comp as dr ratio but shes not as dependant as him on it

>>1548730
Had a look at her leaked kit, do you think her default rate of gaining ultimate points when in a follow up team is enough to fire off her ultimate often, or would aiming to get her e2 be a priority over getting her LC?

>>1548561
nah

>>1548730
>same team comp as dr ratio
What if I don't have Adventurine because I don't pull for males?

>>1548730
what if i don't have ipcfags and not interested in lingsha?

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>>1548766
It really depends, her lc isnt that great, especially if you have Ratio's, you can just use his.
Her E2 is of course much more expensive to get AND is a great buff overall
>>1548823
If you like cunny, use huohuooooh

>>1548838
Lingsha is good only in break comp, but gallagher mogs her, shes a shit character
You can use moze and march. Also they'll triple rerun black swan robin and kafka (with feixiao) and topaz (with lingsha) so fire up your credit card

>>1548841
i'm also missing kafka but i don't know if dot is still a thing, guess i'll just wait for tingyun(black)

>>1548850
It is a thing, especially with jiaoqiu
He can take ruan mei's place, and if you're feeling zesty you can play him in dotcheron without a sustain

I like this game a lot

>>1548839
The only hunt LC I have available that might fit her is Only Silence Remains (Final Victor on Topaz, Cruising on March Hunt, though I guess I could shuffle them around a bit). I think I'll see if I can luck shit my way into e2 if the LC isn't that necessary for her

>>1549024
If you dont have ratio's, go for her lc first. Its more cost optimal than her e2

>>1548839
Retarded graph. Aventurine brings more damage to the comp than if you substitute Topaz with Moze or March.

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Is this game actually fun? It looks like a gacha game.

If someone were to jump in, what would impress them?

>>1549654
It's OK, if you hate hoyo games it probably won't make you like them. I liked how the side quests peppered randomly on unsuspecting NPCs made it feel a bit like playing old school rpg games

>>1549654
it's a good game if you like the genre but at the moment I don't feel like recommending it, especially if you want to be f2p, the developers are too greedy. Going into detail, it has more or less the usual progression problems that you have in other gacha, the writing of the quests is long-winded and full of useless chatter that only serves to lengthen the game times, but the real problem is team building. Someone might say that the game and the endgame can easily be completed with f2p characters but you have to invest a lot and in a game like this players want to be able to use characters they like, and here's the problem, you can't use those characters optimally if you don't have other characters that are in synergy with them and many of these are 5* limited.

Oh no Rappa's cute

>>1547776
MADE FOR HOOLAY'S KNOT

>>1550838
proof?

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>>1550999

>>1551024
>notfattiope
legit thought you're joking until i see the announcement myself

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>>1551482

>>1552497
Hopefully she's an independent character or at least can be used without too many limited.

Has this game incorporated more ties to HI3 since launch or not really? I know Welt is in the game and it launched with some HI3 character alternate versions but not sure if it has done much else with that and the story?

>>1552705
Acheron's lore apparently took inspiration from HI3 but nothing else so far I think
https://youtu.be/XbWbOIxbFMA

>>1552678
Every char can be played without any other limited. You won't ever find a gacha where you can't improve them with more 5* though.
Considering that char is supposed to be break related, she could take similar supports like Firefly. But "break related" doesn't imply break effect. So it might also just go somewhere else.

>>1547776
Is their anything alternative to this game which isn't filled with women.

>>1553485
What, turn-based? It's a dime a dozen.

>>1553485
the few guys in this one are great
they are why I started playing

Anons
Imma be real with you all
I lost my 3rd 50% in a row
I got BAILU again
What do I do? I have 200 pulls left
Do I still go for jiaoqiu or wait for robin + feixiao?

>haven't done this version's flagship event
i'm ngmi

>>1554919
How much do you want the character? Do you really need him? 200 for Robin and Feixiao if you are not lucky are not enough and maybe you also need to get Fei's cone, but if you have Ratio's it can be fine. Since Robin is almost essential for Fei, try to get her and then Fei, a harmony is always useful unlike a DPS that requires a specific team to be optimal.

>>1554953
You still have time unless there are problems, it is not difficult and the most important thing are the eidolons of March Hunt, at most skip the dialogues that are nothing special anyway.

>>1555107
Tbh I like ratio more but feixiao is better
I also like jiaoqiu and he's basically the bis now (and would also like to pull Acheron eventually)
Maybe I can still pull him and get robin (There are about 80 pulls in 2.5, I also have a daily blessing) and tell feixiao to fuck off, since I don't think I will be able to get both her and her LC
>>1554953
You have about a week to do an event that takes 3 hours at best? Combats are even in full auto mode so you can go do something else in the meantime

>>1555241
I forgot to mention: jiaoqiu is the BIS for ratio as topaz starts becoming a good debuffer at e1s1, while jiaoqiu does the same job at e0s0 (or better at e0s1)

I should always do 10 pulls, right?

>>1555305
No difference.

>>1555241
that's 3 hours of clicking through dialogues...

>>1555241
>>1555242
Fei is better but requires a specific team while Ratio is much more versatile since it only needs debuffs. The problem is that those who manage HSR are much more greedy than Genshin, just look at the next banners, and the fact that there is the rerun of two meta characters for DoT and two for FuA could predict the release of new stronger characters for these two teams and/or a new type of team that will be advantaged in the future endgame. If you like JQ try to get him if it is guaranteed otherwise get Robin who is a character that will always have a utility. Unfortunately HSR is a game that must be played on the spot, pulling on the reruns, except for some cases (harmony, preservation, abundance), is not worth it given the continuous powercreep.

>>1555350
The dialogues are not long and you can slightly accelerate March's training phase, the problem is that if you want all the rewards you have to put a minimum of brain into the minigame. There is also the option that the event is permanent but I don't know if you will be able to get the eidolons since all the other past events available do not have limited rewards.

>>1555589
I think the only rewards you miss out on are the ones in the limited rewards section, so the usual mats, jades, and resin stuff

>>1555589
I ended getting jiaoqiu since I still have 140 pulls for robin now (which are enough to get her if I lose the 50%)
I got him because now the ratio team is almost complete (with robin) and then I'll see if I will get feixiao (unlikely since I don't have ratio's lc) if not I'll probably go for 2.6 reruns (most likely Acheron and aventurine I hope) since I don't really like Rappa

>got two Jiaoqiu
Feels good!

>>1548561
no, acheron is good for all 3 modes, feixiao is only good for 2 modes

>>1555589
>constant power creep
You mean constant shitters trying to play teams that don't work with a given stage gimmick / enemy.

People constantly show how all the old characters still clear fine, as long as you don't try to force shitty and unsuited teams. And by fine I mean not any worse than other comparable investments of newer chars.

>>1558105
Post clears.

>>1558152
Why would I spoonfeed? If you wanna stop being an idiot, you gotta put in some effort. Holds true for life in general.

It's easy to blame the game without any proof and valid arguments, but this is just coping and avoiding the problem. No game is perfect, and there are many issues with SR that I could talk about, and you can also talk about to learn why you struggle. But by using the word "power creep" you just avoid the issues, both with yourself and the game, and act as if you can't do anything about it but pulling the newest toys.

>>1558182
Post. Clears.

>>1558105
>>1558182
Since we are all Anonymus it is a bit difficult to understand who you are talking to, however to be clear, I am the one who wrote this post >>1555589, I have nothing to do with >>1558152 and >>1558206.

I do not doubt that you can face endgame challenges with old units but it requires much more investment than new ones and let's face it, many do not want to bother to minmax a unit. There is also another point that you forget, there are those who only pull what they like so it is normal that they do not have the right tools to overcome some challenges. Hoyo with HSR has done a great job from a financial point of view but this is to the disadvantage of the players who are practically forced to pull even for characters they do not like just to be able to use what they like, I am not saying that it is a bad thing but except for rare cases there is no valid alternative from a gameplay point of view nor from a character point of view. For example if you do not like Ruan Mei you are forced to have her if you want a decent team break.

>>1558211
Then there's me who 3 starred moc with Firefly break team without Ruan Mei, just using March 7th instead. It is absolutely viable. It is optimal? Absolutely not. But I think the HSR playerbase in general is incredibly insistent on meta teams being the only viable teams when that's not the case. E0S0 Firefly as well with HMC.

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>>1558492
>old characters is fine guys
>boo you can't do anything without the newer toys
>uses firefly
Next you're going to say "b-but it's just one so it's cheap and you can do it too!", fucking moron.

>>1554953
I play 10 gacha garbage regularly and I skip everything except maybe the main storyline quests

>>1558624
You sound like a mad little faggot. Also Firefly is severely hampered without Ruan Mei since there is absolutely no one else who can provide weakness efficiency buffs atm. You just want to throw a piss tantrum about powercreep in a rather easy game as if any current unit also doesn't need a high unit of investment either through insane relics, or strict teammate reqs.

captcha: 00PS !

>>1558836
>excuses
>still no proof of old characters clearing just fine
Don't try to move the goalpost, just admit that old characters are bad and metafagging is the only way to easily clear everything at the cost of rolling someone you don't like.
>b-but i like ff so i'm not a metafag!
You're just lucky that she's someone you like, still doesn't change the fact that she's one of the meta right now.

In my opinion there is only one point, if a character is not meta for hardcore players then it means that it is not a good character for casual players either, the problems that a hardcore player encounters in the endgame are the same that a casual player can encounter in the rest of the game. I don't think anyone here doubts that the endgame can be faced with old characters, it is simply not worth it if this means a big investment, unless you like the character. Firefly is not a good example, she is currently the favorite character of the developers and has his two main supports mostly for free. Honestly Hoyo should make the team building much less rigid, at the moment it is difficult to choose which character to get and even advise newbies.

>>1558878
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GptalAC2H8
Moc 12 cleared by jingliu + robin
I also had another with blade + bronya but can't find it anymore

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>>1559153
>E1
>45/255 CV
>bp lightcone on support
>first half using break comp
You apologist really trying to convince me, a himeko, welt, and clara user with this? Yes i rolled supports for them, yes they're cracked to the core, but do i recommend doing it for fun? Fuck NO, they're POWERCREPT.
Folks in my circle can auto these endgame contents with newer toys with cheap e0s0 investments so yeah i'm not convinced. If you don't want to gimp yourselves, just be a metafag, roll the new shinies, noone's forcing you.
>but no you're just stupid, it's not their best comp!
I fucking dare you to find a cheaper build than this.

>>1559383
Himeko is genuinely good in pf, however I have boothill so yeah
Again, I'm a boothill Chad. I use him everywhere, but I had to clear last moc's Cocolia (I think it was moc 10 idk) with her instead of boothill because I couldn't ult enough to keep up the physical weakness.
Fact is, every team works if it's built well. You can use a nice blade with bronya and a well built luocha and clear moc 12 nowadays, and everyone of these characters was released like, more than a year ago?
Ofc newer characters tend to be much stronger, and older character fall out of meta, just look at seele, yanqing, Jing yuan (which can still do well in a hypercarry comp with his signature lc) but we all know gachas are cashgrabs so they gotta make always more powerful characters to earn as much and force the player base to spend irl money on the game, but the game is simple enough to let you clear most (if not every) endgame content with whatever character you like (if well built on a nice comp) without being a meta slave.
Moc? Himeko break can work wonders
Pf? Just go with herta
AS? Xueyi is fine (and very underrated along with qingque)
Me personally? I like using who I like. I'm not gonna pull feixiao because I prefer Dr Ratio even thought feixiao is stronger (especially with her/ratio's LC). I pulled jiaoqiu because I liked him, even if I don't have Acheron yet, I put him with ratio and he's doing fairly well. I have Gepard, and I use him because I like him, and even thought I will pull aventurine next rerun I will still use both because... I just like Gepard, and with trend he becomes a decent debuffer too (that way I can use both Acheron and ratio team simultaneously on moc)
Am I going to 0 cycle moc 12?
Not likely, but will I have fun actually playing the game (and not leaving moc 12 in auto with my whale E6S5 team doing all the job) with characters I like, even without using orthodox team comps? Well... Yeah
It's a game, you should have fun first
Also show Ruan Mei (E?S?)

>>1559408
If it's about can or cannot then yeah i'm leaning towards can because i have a personal proof, but i won't subject anyone to go through the same shit substat grinding that i did for my favourite toons when there are characters who can clear contents with just a proper trace level and main stat.
There's also an option to ignore the hardest level for any endgames and by doing that you definetly don't need any new meta units.
But even with that, i notice that my scores are getting lower and lower in earlier stages with each update, trash mobs having 30 toughness bar instead of 20 which you can't break with one skill anymore(even more noticeable on bosses), and overall hp creep that will force me to minmax shit even more unless i of course, roll for the latest toys.
>Also show Ruan Mei
E0S0 with S1 motp, around 200% break effect, 140 ish spd, and almost maxed traces.
HMC is almost the same but with eidolons and DDD.

I want Rappa since she's voiced by Nokotan

>>1559431
You are right about everything but even newer characters need a consistent build. Take feixiao for example: she NEEDS Robin
It's awful playing feixiao without robin, just as playing Firefly without ruan mei, even newer characters can struggle to clear moc12/as4. And let's talk about 99% of erudition characters: jade does exactly the same as herta in pf, let's be honest, a limited 5* that got out like a patch ago has got the same value as one of the oldest free e6 4*.
Lingsha is another good example: she's just slightly barely better than Gallagher (which is arguably the second best abundance after huohuo ATM), and unless you really like her, would you really spend 150-160 pull for a character that does just the same as a free 4*?
The only character that wreaks havoc with very low investment ATM is Acheron, who works just fine with pela (which, again, is almost at the same level as Jiaoqiu) and Gallagher (without even using the second nihility character required for her ability). Will another character in 2 years absolutely overwhelm her? Most likely, but for the most part, IF you're willing to spend a lot and create a good team around it, but will Acheron still do good? Yeah

>>1559908
>Take feixiao for example: she NEEDS Robin
NTA but why? If it isn't as bad as Firefly and TB then I'll probably manage

>>1559915
Feixiao's whole kit is based on her ult. That's why her cone (or baptism) are important: the whole strategy is getting the ult asap (march/moze/topaz) and dealing as much as damage as possible with it (her lc, robin)

>>1559915
In general she needs units that attack often in order to build stacks for her ultimate so fua characters are her best companions, Robin is the best support for fua apart from Topass.

Watch these videos to get an idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzQ6RLZRZdM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10C0vBZerX8

>>1560009
>>1560023
So basically she's best-in-slot tier due to the FUA buffs, but not triples-your-damage tier like Harmony TB for Firefly was I'm assuming? Working with one of the alternatives should be manageable for me if so

>>1559908
>It's awful playing feixiao without robin, just as playing Firefly without ruan mei
And yet you proceed to explain that there are alternative for supports...
Trust me, i've tried almost every possible combination of supports with old DPS-es yet i feel like new DPS+cope supports still got that higher ceiling simply because they have better base multipliers and talents such as:
>saving excess stacks (I wish himeko could do that)
>hitting randoms when there are no targets available (herta, march 7th, clara, why can't you do that???)
>guarantee-hit debuffs(pela, welt, sw could never)
>weakness implant or omnibreak
You can argue that Xueyi got some of it in her kit but good luck proc-ing those follow-ups outside of quantum-weak foes without battery and E6.
And for the rest of old-DPS, these failsafes can't be substituted without sacrificing a slot on your team, but for example swapping Ruan Mei for March(hunt) and you'll lose...what, SPD buff? Break efficiency on anyone other than your DPS? Additional DMG on break? RES PEN buff and percentage DMG bonus have no effect on break team so you're not missing that much and as >>1560113 said, swapping Robin for anyone means Feixiao will miss some stacks and DMG but her kit is still there.
It's on the devs to stop the enemy powercreep but as they said; if it(their income) is not broken, don't fix it.

>>1560305
>saving excess stacks (I wish himeko could do that)
>hitting randoms when there are no targets available (herta, march 7th, clara, why can't you do that???)
NTA but god damn you reminded me how much I hate hoyo never buffing their old characters. Even FGO bothered to throw low rarity release characters a bone + updated their models and animations

>>1560305
Actually the replacement is for topaz. Not Robin.
I still think robin is necessary
Topaz is just slightly better than moze e6 which is just slightly better than march e6
That's basically it. I would never play feixiao without her lightcone/baptism and robin, but I would definitely play her without Topaz E1S1
>>1560113
You lose a LOT of ult damage without robin and her cone. That's it

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I want to have sex with Lingsha

Long story short:
If you have Robin pull Fei and LC, if you're lucky get Moze E6.
If you don't have Robin but have a lot of resources, pull for Robin, Fei and LC.
If you don't have Robin and only have the resources for a single character or have a guaranteed, pull Robin since she is harmony and can be useful in multiple teams although she is best in FuA teams.
If you don't have Robin and don't have resources for both, skip... unless Fei is your waifu and you want to get her at all costs even if you can't use her optimally.

>>1560639
>if you have moze, pull for robin
>if you have feixiao, pull for robin
>if you have guarantee, pull for robin
>if you don't have guarantee, pull for robin
>if you don't have robin pull for robin
>if you have robin, pull for robin
>if you don't like robin, pull for robin
>if you like robin, pull for robin
>if you're planning to skip robin, pull for robin

>>1560642
>If you have robin, pull for robin
Genuinely good advice since her e1 and e2 are CRACKED

>>1560610
Action advance is great but numbers are kinda whatever. It is better to pull Robin for battery than gunning for Feixiao's E2 though.
However I'd still like to see how well she fares with cope supports when she's out. Not from me though she's not my type.

>>1560650
is this worth it over getting a wider roster though? people recommend eidolons a lot, but why not get another dps or support? or even a better sustain to match the current content?

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>>1560759
No. LC and eidolons are luxury stuff, but well, be your own judge whether these are worth it or not. Personally i think these are nothing but number increases compared to the likes of FF and Acheron's E2 where it's a straight QoL upgrade of an already broken character.
Feixiao's E2 is also good but she wants follow-up supports regardless so it's not that much of a gamechanger.

>>1560725
Most definitely, her e2 is quite good but ofc robin is the game changer here
>>1560759
No. Especially if you're f2p. As >>1560782 said, unless you have a character you really really really like and whose eidolons are overpowered like Firefly or Acheron.
LC's are a tad better but unless the character is very lc reliant (which isn't really common too) you can skip them 99% of times

>>1560782
>>1560795
thanks, I'll aim for feixiao and robin first, then spend anything left for a cone

need feixiao to ride me like a combat starskiff, hard and fast

Good luck to anyone pulling feixiao or the reruns.
Opinions on Rappa? Her kit seems fun, also nice fucking tits

This constant switching of the forced party members is really getting on my nerves

>got the SSR animation early for both Feixiao and her LC
>lose 50/50 on both of them
Uhh ok. Got them both in any case, I have enough to get to 50/50 for Robin too but I think I'll try out with supports first and see if I care enough to get her too

Should i complete my DoT team? Kafka is the only one i'm missing.

>>1564000
Definitely. I think Kafka has even more value in dot than BS. She's the pillar of dot
>>1563988
Oof... I actually won my first 50/50 on robin, I had lost 3 in a row

>>1563668
Going to be the epitome of a dickroll from me, I don't really need another PF character especially with real Herta in early 3.X, but she's hot. I probably won't go further than one pity though, if I lose the 50/50 I'd probably just hold the guarantee.

>>1563668
I want to pull but I'm waiting to see if she's trash in non-PF content

>>1564396
Same. I'm honestly very excited for some upcoming characters, Sunday in 2.7 being the first one. Ofc real herta (which is rumored to be an Erudition emanator as well) is gonna be so cool, and even though I think Rappa is cute I won't probably pull for her
>>1564568
She is most likely trash outside pf, or at best at himeko level in MOC (so pretty decent with super break)

>>1564223
>Definitely. I think Kafka has even more value in dot than BS. She's the pillar of dot
Is the team still good outside of lightning/wind content?

>>1564820
I think that if it's well built you can still pretty much clear moc12 atm, but it's still way behind comps like fua and break
A niche option to give it a consistent buff is Jiaoqiu E2 but again it's very expensive and the team isn't really f2p friendly to begin with

Want E1 Robin
Want E1 Black Swan
Want also want to save for my man Sunday (he did nothing wrong)
Life is pain.

>>1566036
Just do what I do. 20 rolls on every banner I like, win or lose. I get some characters I want, I lose some.

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What makes Gallagher so good exactly?
I never bothered building him because I already have Fu and Houhou, but I'm looking at his kit and his heals seem really lackluster comapred to whatever offensive support he's supposed to bring
Please educate me I am literally losing my mind over this

>>1566343
Gallagher is a support that boosts break damage that also happens to have some healing in his kit while also being SP positive.

>>1566343
>trace that adds break scaling to his healing, it's deceptively low if you only look at his base kit
>buffs break damage done, and can inflict a lot of toughness damage himself against fire weak(and you're probably playing him with Firefly)
>can provide a debuff for acheron
>insanely SP positive
Gallagher's strength comes from the ability to build virtually nothing but speed and ideally some break on him and he shits out SP by getting tons of turns when you put the action advance 3* cone on him. His ultimate action advances him and gives him yet another turn and point of SP. It also works as an on demand oh shit heal because it'll usually fully heal him and then his following advanced enhanced basic heals the whole team.
He's also ideal for running some memey builds that involve characters who rely on attaching themselves to another character for attacks, like March or Jade(at E1), and because he gets so many turns even without the 3* cone, you can run QPQ on him to battery the team. He doesn't give the same feeling of passive immortality that those two you have give, but he feels very rewarding when you get the feel for it and he's insane in his best teams for being a 4*. The fact that in break teams you're ideally breaking and delaying enemies somewhat regularly also means lower raw healing output doesn't hurt as much.

What did you guys use for the wardance Argenti boss? Got through it with the trials + feixiao and was curious how other people dealt with him

>>1566770
I used the 3 trials + tingyun in the standard fight and for the dream fight I used robin

>>1566770
"Topaz": Trials + Gallagher.
"Boothill": Trials + Ruan Mei, this is the only one I couldn't 4/4 because in the last phase the boss trapped Kafka and BS.
Argenti: Trials + Herta (poorly built).
Svarog: Trials + Gallagher
Yanqing: Trials + Ruan Mei

>>1568310
Have you tried using jiaoqiu (against boothill )? Or someone that inflicts other dots (I think even Serval can work)
As long as the boss takes 1 stack of damage you can start building up hits to free the characters, try not focussing on a proper dot team as you'll still do lots of damage with the bonus abilities

>>1568320
No JQ, I will try with Guinaifen E0 even if she is not built well for now

>>1567740
Huh, didn't expect Robin could deal that much damage, neat

>>1568310
>"Boothill": Trials + Ruan Mei, this is the only one I couldn't 4/4 because in the last phase the boss trapped Kafka and BS.
An anon mentioned the reason you get your ultimates during that sure kill move was so you can choose which characters would get targeted by it, that helped make the fight a lot more stress free for me
>Argenti: Trials + Herta (poorly built).
I tried this team the first time around and I barely got to his last phase by the last cycle, my Herta must've been way worse than yours

>>1568499
It was more for the action advance rather than the damage output, because my poorly built tingyun couldn't help argenti spam ults so I opted for robin to have more turns

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I got E4 Bronya today :/

>>1547776
the only thing she should be punching is my cum from her womb

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>stopped playing when Kafka came out
Man

>>1569743
Man
I
Love
Kafka

>>1569749
If only I wasn't a retard I could pull black swan to support her, but I want to save everything to get Saber next year

>>1569751
you could just swipe

>>1569752
I would, if a new character wasn't something close to 100$, I won't swipe with this rate

>>1569751
What the hell? Its like a whole ass year and it's not even confirmed who is gonna be in the Collab
Pull black swan man please I beg you

Save for the Fate Collab Character, That shit will never be getting a rerun. E6S5 so you don't brick your account

>>1569931
Fate fucking sucks bro

>>1569939
You can enjoy your waifu and whatever shit you like, but when the meta needs the one character you don't have don't come crying.
We can look at Hoyo examples
>Honkers 3rd
>NGE collab
>SP valk
>Never reran again
>Genshit collab
>SP valk
>Reruns out the ass/farmable
With that knowledge, Non-hoyo collabs will have non-returning characters during the collab. You can be on your high horse and not roll for fate but don't come whining around when you don't have it for your comps.
And to answer some doubts
>But NGE character in Honkers 3rd sucked
Correct, but in Star rail every character released has been arguably better than what we had before, there haven't been any actual save patches yet (Honkers 3rd have patches where farmable characters are up on the banner)

>>1569980
>the meta
>in a single player game
lmao

>>1569981
meta is just a catch term
Why the fuck does this exist anon >>1560642
You can keep laughing but you'll just have a hole in your account. Like you said you can COPE with other shit since it's single player game.
But what I'm saying is not wrong, you have only one chance for the fate banner

>>1569983
Sure whatever
I don't roll for characters that I don't like and Fate has no likable characters.

>>1569882
>whole ass year
this will never get a rerun, I want to E6 the character
> not even confirmed who is gonna be in the Collab
it's impossible to have this collab without archer (confirmed) and Saber (the main character
>Pull black swan man please I beg you
is she really worth it? I already have sampo as a wind character to go with Kafka, I'm on the fence right now but I also have 200 tickets only

>>1569990
Consider the following:
If you're getting all if not most of the stars every patch, there's no reason you should get Swan yet.

>>1569991
Good point.
I’ll just save, I’ll scratch that pull itch with regular tickets

>>1569990
Just to note, you need at most about ~173k jades to guarantee e6, and roughly another 100k for s5, though you'll need less if you win your 50/50s. So if you somehow save up more than that feel free to spend em

>>1569931
While you are right about the characters being limited if you're a collector, they'll definitely release stronger units later down the line. E6S5 is obviously the peak and compared to any E0S1 they won't be weaker even after 2-3 years, but only go that far if you really like the character or their gameplay and intend to use them forever

Considering that the next meta is probably "Servants" based on the leaks, then I wouldn't be surprised if the playable characters were the masters, so you could have hybrid DPS support units, which is not a good thing at all for those who aren't Fate fans.

>>1570096
sounds fine, I'll drop the S5 simply because there's no way I'll be able to save 100k

>Do you remember your name?
>My name is... Tingyun.

ebin just ebin

>>1570582
She's honestly kind of a worthless character

There's way, way, way too much dialog and combat interruption in this event...

>>1547776
holy shit, this was like the worst patch in terms of gameplay
forced story characters are so fucking annoying. it's one thing to include them in your party, but to randomly remove the only dps on the team to place a healer on it?
does it really make the story more immersive? and don't get me started on the story boss, I want to use my E6S5 character, that's why I got her, I tdon't need some shitty story character where I ended up with a 3 man comp with the story character doing jack shit.
if the game forced me to have TB in the party when ever I wouldn't be so adverse to this idea.

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Stelle very mad

>>1559408
Don't respond to that dumb faggot anymore, he's just some shitter who's some stick up his ass about powercreep and knee jerk reacts to seeing the "meta" units not realizing those units are genuinely fucking dogshit without their strict supports that literally have no replacement in Firefly's case and are only "meta" in their optimal setups. Using a Firefly without Ruan Mei turns her into almost a Blade-tier DPS but he's too much of a dumb faggot to realize that and just wants to be smarmy about someone abusing "meta" completely out of context. At least for crit-scaling normal DPS there are more team alternatives. That being said, I brought up the example of my using E0S0 FF without Ruan Mei was to prove its viability, not it being optimal, but this game is fucking easy so yes you can still make a shitty budget break variant team work. That's not an extension of Firefly being necessarily "broken," moreso the mechanic. But if that's moving goalposts, then whatever. They can win the internet argument.

the star rail collab makes me want to play honkai 3rd
Is that game good?, too grindy?

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>reached a point where it was a good idea to built vertical and build a 2nd team because i can't even get to floor 4 of moc
>yet again just get a new character instead because i like collecting
>get the character but don't have their best support
>now i have 3 5* at lvl 1 and not a lot of materials (though i did buy the bp the other day)
Heh, I did it yet again...

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>>1574965
sounds like you're having fun though so why not

https://x.com/StarRailVerse1/status/1837970053586997360
A buncha codes

>>1575367
Actually wait I'm not sure why I didn't just post the codes directly

AA2G7664C2RX
CM25RWG44W62
XRPTL1P7K5H8W
4TKSX77Y58QK
5S6ZHRWTDNJB
BKWHQ9B3G7T1M
HJSZQ4C8H2F6W
STARRAILGIFT
NOHOTFOODPLEASE
FeixiaoFiles

Literally what the fuck happened to this event. The entire point of the Wardance was March and Yunli vs Yanqing, but those plot points were randomly dropped offscreen in favor of Luka?
I'd love to see what kind of insane war is going on in Mihoyo's writer's room.

>>1575426
It's almost three weeks without mini event(beside 2x planar), i guess that's what the 1k jade meant for...

>>1575426
>The entire point of the Wardance was March and Yunli vs Yanqing
That wardance ended up being a ruse to catch Hoolay, the Luka wardance is several weeks after the main story. The whole Yunli/March/Yanqing arc probably got resolved after Yanqing's "character development" power boost

>>1575426
I like Luka!

>>1575426
I think the more egregious part is we spent the entirety of 2.4 preparing March for the wardance and then she barely even got a single mention when the actual thing happened.

>>1575426
No war, the two updates are a single story so it was decided from the beginning that things had to go this way. March's training served to improve the relationship between Yunli and Yanqing and to have a plot-related event for the previous updates and since March survived the fight with Hoolay I would say that in the end it is worth as much as a victory in the wardance and the two masters get along a little better than before. Luka's event was not bad and at least it gives a little more hope to Jarilo VI, but I found the plot a little forced in some points.

>>1575638
As much as I would have liked it more with March, there was nothing at stake for her, she just had to win once according to the agreements, the only way to make her relevant was to introduce a real rival to spice things up.

>there are still 5 more chink ships to visit
end me, welt

>>1575762
they won't make us visit them all
that would be boring

Jade worked out pretty well in the AS Aventurine fight.

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Finally, but I'm screwed with Lingsha and Nokotan.

https://x.com/gosari542/status/1841447809842848213
This MMD made me roll for Lingsha. I regret nothing

save for sunday

>>1583126
I mean she ugly and annoying so I ain't rolling for her no matter what

>>1583220
>ugly
u gay?

>>1583126
>a healer
meh.
>a sidegrade
meh.
>replaces male
sold.

>>1583247
>>replaces male
>sold.
this is the only reason to roll

I got S1 for my Topaz today

>>1583234
she got her period blood all over her hands bruh

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I didn't really need Lingsha, Gallagher was working fine. But I got her anyway.

>>1583640
dawei loves retards like you

>>1583640
With Rappa, Tingyun and Aglaea back to back, I just can't bother to pull for another boring chink character. Although her being a dragon elf girl admittedly tempted me a bit.

>>1583780
>Aglaea
Who?

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>>1583791
Should be the first character from the next Greek inspired planet. She is also supposedly an actual summoner, as in her summons are actually independent characters, have their own skills and targetable by the enemy instead of just being .png icons in the action order.

>>1583816
Oh so that's what the trashcan event was testing

>>1583780
>rappa
not interested.
>tingyun sp
maybe.
>>1583816
>aglaea
eh.
i'll cross the bridge when i get there.

>>1583640
I'll probably get her on the rerun, I like her design and she feels like one of those characters designed for the future, but after Feixiao, Kafka, Swan, and Robin in one patch, I can't go for her. I like Gallagher and he does his job fine, so it's not like I feel a burning need for her for my break team anyway.
Plus, Tingyun soon and Herta soonish.

>>1583640
Doesn't really matter. Rappa is an easy skip because Lingsha makes the FF comp work a lot better for PF, and Sunday is a ST energy buffer in a game that's phasing out energy dependency for DPS characters. Being able to skip all of 2.6 and the first half of 2.7 will give you plenty of time to save for Tingyun, and probably Aglaea and/or Herta too.

>>1584320
Sunday's kit was leaked?

>>1584320
Rappa is a must pull for a lot of people that have completely skipped imaginary because it was dominated by homos

>>1584352
>because it was dominated by homos
Why are you so insecure in your sexuality?

>>1584359
If mihoyo wanted me to be more "secure", they should have given me more pulls. Then maybe I would have pulled for an imaginary homo. It's hard enough as it is.

>>1584352
just omnibreak/weakness implant/use something else, really.

>>1584363
>weakness implant
It's funny how Silver Wolf is basically useless now that the break focused characters just implant or ignore weaknesses themselves

>>1584367
Silverwolf is probably the only character I somewhat regret pulling. I still like her character a lot visually, but I basically almost never used her even when she first released. And now as you said, she is basically useless.

>>1584371
Yeah, she was great when the game launched and we had a very limited set of characters but now she just exists to provide some debuffs for Acheron or something? I dunno.

>>1584371
>>1584372
I still use her and find her great for Acheron, but yeah a big drawback for her weakness install is the need to be in a team that has at most 2 elements in it, which is surprisingly hard to do despite several updates in

>>1584335
No, but his Light Cone was, and that's what it does. Couple that with the descriptions of his skill animations, and it's adding up to an energy buffing hypercarry support.

>>1584520
How unfortunate.

>>1584520
How fortunate

>>1584520
>powercreeps both sparkle and huohuo in 1 kit
Lmao

>>1584702
He won't be a healer so your team will be [Hypercarry], Tingyun, Sunday, Hohoho

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I hope some part of his kit does the charmony dove monologue

>>1587410
His ult should have him recite the entire story even at 2x speed.

>>1588511
WIFE

>>1588511
Imagine the smell

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>>1588511
sigh

>>1588511
don't care, still saving for hag Herta

>>1588527
same, if I don't have enough for the possible godlike e1 or e2 I'll lose my mind

>>1588511
Nothing special, in fact apart from the additional tails the rest seems like a downgrade compared to the 4* version. Honestly having her back shows nothing but that Hoyo has no balls, and the fact that the criminal could join the nameless or have an important role on the next planet is not a good thing at all.

>>1588511
Since hoyo is bringing dead people back, I will wait for Baiheng to come home

>>1588511
She and Robin are 2.7 right? Who's the second character with Rappa in 2.6?

>>1589049
By Robin I meant Sunday of course

>>1589049
there is no second character with Rappa, the second half is just reruns (don't know which yet), full on filler patch

>>1589049
Rappa / DHIL
Acheron / Aventurine

I haven't played since last year. Someone in here said that Tingyun is dead. Tingyun is alive.
So fuck you. That's all

Hoolay in MoC is so fucking annoying

I just want to do the quest, how do I disable hard mode

>>1584352
We got imaginary trailblazer and March 8th both for free

You DID pick female trailblazer, right? You didn't brick your account a year ago, did you?

>>1598965
Since I'm from South East Asia I get insecure around men taller than 5'8 so of course I picked Stelle, don't worry bro my account is safe

There is a /vg/ thread that is a thousand times faster than this btw

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There is a /vg/ thread that is a thousand times worse than this btw

>>1599774
man i love topaz

I think I might get off bannered again with Nokotan

>>1599991
Hoyo gachas work on a soft pity/hard pity system, if you get the wrong 5 star the first time around then you're guaranteed the banner 5 star next time. It carries over between banners too, so assuming you haven't rolled since last time she's basically guaranteed

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>>1599991
i'm at 30% win rate if that makes you feel better.

>>1599774
Vg is a trash board. This thread might only have 3 people in it, but at least it's not full of crazies. I actually like /vmg/.

Just finished Antinomic Waltz, egad that was cancer. And Penacony cements its status as the true successor to Macross after Frontier

>>1600062
I am op an I visit this thread like once a month
I like vmg more, its way less trashy than vg but holy hell its slow

>>1600008
lost on Feixiao and Lingsha which is why I said I might get offbannered again with Nokotan. I know how the gacha ceiling works as I play Genshin, Star Rail and Zenless

>>1599991
>Nokotan
who the fuck is that

>>1601993
The meme deer

>>1602258
What's that have to do with HSR

>>1602268
Same VA

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i got s1 feixaio s2 robin, only got x1 fexiao cus i figured robin is more valuable and will probably be power crept a lot less, i got really lucky having won 6/8 of my 50's lately

>offbannered with another retarded yan qing

kill yourself mihomo

>>1605819
skill issue

>>1605819
>rolling when sunday and fugue are around the corner
>not even waiting for aventurine or acheron rerun, 2 of the biggest meta units rn
What are you doing?

>>1606155
I want Nokotan, simple as. I also collect all characters.

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>>1605819
raugh at this retard

>>1606163
whjo the fuck is nokotan

Will Sunday buff Topaz?

>>1606207
The meme deer

>>1606268
and who is that in hsr

Read the top replies

suck my fat fucking cock, faggot

>>1606275
The meme ninja

am i supposed to know that

>>1606436
If you want to

https://files.catbox.moe/2mju9x.mp4
Now I get it

I want to rail Pom Pom

>>1606381
That would've been Gallagher...

holy shit this patch's story quest is so fucking god awful
kill whoever wrote shitacony

>>1608181
I haven't finished it yet and I don't want to, it's the first time in HSR that I'd like to have a skip button, the same goes for the event.

>>1608202
It's the first time I've muted HSR or Genshin, put autoplay on, and then tabbed into something else while I wait for it to end
Actually fucking impressive they made something this awful

>>1608181
Yeah the previous two patches have been bad but this event is probably the lowest this game has ever been

>>1608181
Genshin just released a new nation with similar theme. You can connect the dots from there.

>>1608235
>Genshin just released a new nation with similar theme
Huh?

>>1608235
this whole rap shilling is probably worst than anything else they could come up with. nobody listens to rap. boomers and millenials outgrew the phase, zoomers either listen to trap or other types of music, my only guess is that the chinese devs are out of touch, so they think the music from 2000-2010 is somehow still trending

>>1608603
If only the rap was the problem, the quest is boring, the event is boring, we are inside a dream and they had the brilliant idea to waste resources to create a school, even just using the assets of Herta Station, Jarilo VI and Loufu could have built something better and more fun. The best part though is that the next update will also be in Penacony, I just hope it works as a prologue for the new planet.

From Penacony onwards this game is disappointing me more and more, I expected something similar to Star Ocean, not this stuff.

>>1608846
BANANANANANANANANANANANANANANA NANA NANA NANA

>>1608181
I haven't even started it because I'm just not ready for the cringe ninja (also ZZZ is just way more fun now)
I want a story skip button

>>1608846
>I expected something similar to Star Ocean
Same, Herta and Jarilo were such a good start. Also Penacony's battle themes are so dull outside of the boss fights, they should've learned from the Persona series that banger battle bgms make the turn based battles less droll to get through. No wonder they even made a central character's ultimate be able to overwrite the bgm

>>1608861
God I fucking wish Robin cycled through all her songs with that ult
Sway to my Beat in the Cosmos was forcibly burned into my mind for months

Considering that Tracks of Destiny are a limited resource, should I upgrade all characters' traces to level 10 or should I focus on DPS for now?

>>1608865
I really believe I was lucky with this one. I like her other songs too, but if I didn't like this one in particular, I don't know how I'd have handled months of listening to it daily

>>1609380
focus on dps first

March 7th is trans and her color scheme is a nod to that.

March looks like a girl, sounds like a girl and acts like a girl. Trannies do none of those things. Conclusion: March is a girl, and you're mentally ill.

Why does this event just keep going
This patch as made me hate Rappa more than any character

>>1609610
colors can't be claimed, but stay retarded

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>>1547776
I'm never forgiving mihoyo for making me fall in love with a gay man

>>1611590
Is he really gay?

>>1611594
Yeah, that anon is definitely gay

>>1611610
I'm a straight woman...

Can we just skip 2.7 and fast forward to Herta

>>1611651
If we just skip to 3.0 so we don't have another Penacony update, wouldn't that be better?

>>1611781
Nah I want Sunday.
We can skip to his banner release and then skip to 3.0 the day after

>>1612079
No problem seems like a good compromise to me, hoping that the new area of 3.0 is not worse than Penacony.

>>1611590
I tried to pull him but mine had long red hair. Fuck I hate 50/50, there should be a law that bans it. For the rest:

March e5
Sampo e3
Pela e3
Asta e5
Himeko e1

The only bright side is that I now have a guaranteed...

Fifly christmas...

I wish Firefly stayed as SAM and was just a cool sentient mecha instead of some Ayaka tier forced waifubait

>>1613042
we've been through this but i strongly agree.

Speaking of SAM
https://x.com/AmiAmi_English/status/1856923513606582453
Kind of skinnier than expected

>>1613196
>Kind of skinnier than expected
bet nobodys ever said that about u

>>1613754
OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH SNAP

>>1611594
No that's just fujo delusions and playing with the ENG dub

Dead thread...
Dead game...

And nothing of value was lost.

this patch is ass