The epic games store on mobile and every other 3rd party storefront now has access to the full Google play game library. That is right. That is insane there is literally no reason why steam epic or even Microsoft can go and make their own storefront on mobile now. I can't belive Google got screwed that badly all because they bribed developers early on.
Cute. The question is whether it leads to better games or even more garbage.
>>1586642Not to mention Google has to put these storefronts on the Google play store now.Pc gaming on mobile is becoming a reality, these companies don't need to worry about mobile games and can figure out ways to translate them to arm and phones. That is insane.
>>1586650It means pc games are coming to mobile. No wonder steam is working on a translation layer for android.
>>1586654Eh? But doesn't that undermine the purpose of the Deck? Or maybe not. Mobile gamers aren't exactly big spenders.
>>1586963>caring for the Decklollmao
>>1587371I don't. Valve probably would, tho.
>>1586642>must allow third party app stores>exclusives are forbiddenthere's literally nothing wrong with this decision.
>>1587460If Epic wasn't scummy that did exclusives on PC.Also>access to the full Google play game libraryNot defending Google, but sounds like a nightmare for varios reasons.
>access to the full Google play game libraryThere's going to be a huge catch to that. Cause Google does do app checks. Making them give it to Epic is basically asking Google to do free work for Epic.This won't fly, in any way what so ever.Either way will never use Epic, I don't need the chinese keeping my data on top of pajeets
>>1586642This is good for the consumer imoI'll still be using google play for the google points but they'll need to give more benefits just for staying with them
>>1600086>If Epic wasn't scummy that did exclusives on PC.Don't care. Steam has a ton of those already.
>>1600215>Google to do free work for EpicNot just epic. Pretty much any company who wants to have their own alternative app store. This was done because amazon pretty much stated it is too difficult to be a competitor and they need help.
>>1600086>If Epic wasn't scummy that did exclusives on PC.Every company does exclusives little bro (only Microsoft doesn't and we all know how the Xbox has fared due to that) even gog has exclusives that won't hit any other storefront.
>>1586963the deck was irrelevant from day one. Mobile was always the future more or less. Current phones are strong as fuck and with the right tools could play half the steam catalogue. Tablets even more so. The age of desktop pcs will probably come to an end eventually especially with those fake graphics slop and AI.
>>1604399>Mobile was always the future more or less. I'll believe it when I see it, because so far everything about it sucks - the games, the players, the devs, the business models, the spending habits, etc.>Tablets even more so.Interesting. I always thought a bigger screen would work better for some games but tablets were always these budget devices with worse hardware than phones.>The age of desktop pcs will probably come to an end eventually PCs are an established niche that isn't going away overnight. And mobile is a platform nobody roots for just yet.>especially with those fake graphics slop and AI.And you think phones are safe? Can't share your optimism because AI will surely generate absolute mountains of cancerous mobile shovelware and there's no content curation in Google's store.
>>1586642When does this go into play and how will I be able to sync my App and Game history? Will there be an alternative to Google Play?
>>1604469I was writing a whole essay but then I stumbled upon this and I feel like it says more than I ever could to make it clear what I'm talking about.
>>1604399>Current phones are strong as fuck99% of them chocke on warzone mobile and many of them get hot playing games. Especially if the dev is ass at optimising. Mobile hardware right now isn't that impressive though the 8 elite finally looks like a chip that can play modern aaa games without serious compromise, grid legends looks great on it. However that is the top end. Most phones are not powerful enough to play games on steam or epic. Even accounting for indie slop after taking into consideration lack of care and optimisation in mobile games. Pc is worse.Prison angels a 2d gooner game gets so hot on my s22 ultra, but disney speedstorm runs cooler in comparison. The hardware on phones doesn't just need to be good enough to open it, but to play them without issues. And heat is another problem phones cannot solve.
>>1604707Not to mention the amount of people using hardware that is pretty much quite old or hardware that is weaker than 2020 flagships like the snapdragon 865. Lower end phones are really weak in comparison some of the dirt cheap ones have gpus pretty much on par with the original xbox and many weaker than the 360 judt by going off of raw tflop numbers and mobile phone gpus are a lot more simplified then desktop/console gpus so so they aren't as good. Not to mention memory bandwidth being a massive issue on mobile when it comes to gaming. How can mobile gaming really go next level with these issues in mind.
>>1604709I do think gaming hardware though is on a time limit. I played fortnite via xcloud and it is actually fun, games of all types will end up being on every device everywhere sooner or later.Also pc gaming is too overrated I honestly prefer the mobile way and just the f2p live service model on pc games front. I think in general it is better for the player and the developers. Players can try and play a lot of games for free, devs get money from ads and cosmetics etc and you don't you get gouged or feel bad for buying a game but never playing it.On pc you buy a bunch of games but play barely any of them, and you can get a lot of them for free on steam, epic, itch.io and gog if you are persistent. I bought a steam deck then sold it then a rog ally (I feel like selling it). Imo games are disposable they aren't really worth much in general, if you look at how many people even complete the games they buy. (If gamepass takes over it would devalue games to where they are actually meant to be similar to what happened with music)Free to play games though usually have an engaging gameplay loop that is actually fun compared to normal pc games that demand a lot of time and attention and don't feel fun to play. It is also better on each individual players wallet and developers can still make money with ads and whatnot. It is weird to say but the quality in pc titles and mobile ones aren't that far from each other.I end up playing free to play titles most of the time on my rog ally and most of them I can play on my phone apart from faasst penguin.
>>1604719>Free to play games though usually have an engaging gameplay loop that is actually fun compared to normal pc gamesthis is your brain on gambling addiction
>>1604766>this is your brain on gambling addictionNone of the games I play have any form of gambling (apart from disney speedstorm).I don't play gatcha. I pretty much just rotate around fortnite, farlight 84, multiversus faaast penugin and disney speedstorm. And a bit of fall guys/stumble guys. I loved the rainbow 6 mobile game too. Didn't like pc game all that much though.Many of the story based pc games skimp out on actuall gameplay and just bank on whether you enjoy the story or not. With free to play games they pretty much have to nail the gameplay loop or people are just gonna dip without spending. This ends up where the game that is free to play has a little bit of meat and somethingbto keep you entertained. Most of the big budget pc games just skimp on that and bank on production value and story adverts to carry sales. They cannot hook you for a long period of time so they sacrifice refining the gameplay loop, it just needs to be enticing enough to make you think about buying it.One of the worst examples of this is spiderman, you just press x all the time the game isn't fun and it gets padded with these stupid minigames and fetch quests, I played a spiderman rip off spider fighter 3 and the gameplay loop is exactly the same except I spiderman on pc they made the map bigger and the characters are annoying (extremely annoying I spiderman miles morales, and honestly miles just looks ugly to look at).
>>1604788All of my pc gaming was done mainly via epic games store 200+ games 80 sonething weren't free, 74 amazon prime games, 55 gog games ("free" with amazon prime or were given for free)23 windows store games,16 Ubisoft games, 8 ea games, 1 battle net game. I had a steam account with 66 games but deleted it a while back. Most of it was just steam bundle shovelware. 12 of the games were actually worth something.
>>1604805>55 gog games59 now. Man amazon is generous.
>>1604811right? Gog even once begged me to tell them why I stopped buying games from them and I couldn't bring over my heart to tell them that it's either too easy to pirate or I get them for free anyway so I stopped buying games altogether. I gave them some pointers on how not to lose customer trust though and that bitch promised me a 30 bucks coupon and never delivered. But yeah I got at least 100 games through prime and as a student you get it for like 20 bucks A YEAR and I milked it for half a decade or so until they said no more for you mister kek. Now sometimes when I buy shit they OFFER me a month of free prime and I always take and and REDEEEEEEEEM all the shit. Got 2 months this year alone.
So Apple is next on the block?
>>1604766He's a troll who sometimes shows up here with his opinions that defy facts and common sense, yet he treats them as if they were objective truth and general consensus. No point arguing with him.
>>1604996>He's a troll who sometimes shows up here with his opinions that defy facts and common senseWhat are you on about. Really? Eh? I'm not a troll and honestly I don't know how anyone could come to that conclusion. I barely use this site to begin with so you might be getting me confused with someone else.
>>1605016And How do you think the post that I made is the objective truth what? I just yapped a bit too much. But it is just my opinion, I never said or acted as if my post was a fact. I honestly do not know how you came up with that. Genuinely surprised.>with his opinions that defy facts and common sense,I've played many pc games but I end up just rotating around the same free to play games many of which are on mobile. In general I judt think the gameplay loop in free games is better than in paid ones. Innever said it is a fact, I just gave my reasoning for it based on the games I played on pc. I'm very confused how you came up with that. And even then I don’t think it defies common sense when most of the played games in terms of game time are free games. Roblox and fortnite being 2 of the biggest ones. Being free isn't the only way the games are able to make players clock in so much but also the addictive gameplay loop found in their games. I don't think my opinion defies facts.
>>1604874it was a matter of time. Nobody can beat ol timmy
