PVP on the leftPoC on the right
The ironic part is there's no way PoC would've been this good without PvP, we wouldn't have gotten as many filler cards so it'd feel a lot more samey, plus it only really took off when there were hundreds of existing cards, I doubt it would've lasted that long in the beginning, PoC 1 was fun but very limited.
>>1602577>The ironic part is there's no way PoC would've been this good without PvPTrue>we wouldn't have gotten as many filler cards so it'd feel a lot more samey, I suposse so>plus it only really took off when there were hundreds of existing cards, This combined with the lack of league easy access button + lacking animations didn't help at the start. Bilgewater being released after the big release day was such a mistake. >I doubt it would've lasted that long in the beginning, PoC 1 was fun but very limited.I still remember when Viktor was the big bitchIn other newshttps://x.com/PlayRuneterra/status/1852388697154400538Nov 6
>>1603969Before Viktor it was Veigar, before Veigar it was GP, and before GP I think it was Asol (if you count that version).
>we get an arcane character as a champ (so does LoL)>no one gets LoR exclusive champsIt was always over but it's doubley over.
>>1604132I stopped playing LoL since vanguard so lmaoHowever, that's wrong. TFT has norra, for example.Really, its only the main game that's fucked beyond salvation in terms of design.
>>1604213>I stopped playing LoL since vanguard so lmaoShe sounds fucking annoying too.>more (and safer) dashes than Irelia>high range attacks>shield>better Yone ult (but single target I think)>TFT has norraForgot about that. But TFT is TFT, it's had arcane champs too.
>monthly came out yesterday>71 people have already finished it without a failure>114 have completed it
>>1604299where are u seeing those stats
>>1604812Monthly challenge -> leaderboard, then I scrolled right until I hit the limits (>70 million is complete, 70,070,000 is no retries).It's now 153-277 if you're wondering.
Warwick is herehttps://x.com/PlayRuneterra/status/1853471902951452707
Just EoS it at this point
>>1605957>almost completely useless until he levels>can't even put a quick attack relic on him because he gets it after he levels>his spell is extremely weak, only helped by his 2* (and the spell devalues the challenger relic)>a hodgepodge of Zaun units, only 1 of them even helps him strike>his 4* sounds mandatory>no custom level up animation but there's an annoyingly long generic level up animation>no voice lines so it sounds emptyHe sounds pretty near unusable.
>no VO>no animations>no followers>no regen despite the fact it would be the nost obvious keyword>entire kit is just you get +1/0 whenever you do swain shitHoly fucking shit, just pull the fucking plug riot
>>1606102Definitely sounds weak, specially since he would neeed to have gorillions of attack to actually deal with the big boys at 5*+Maybe if he got the "5+ attack units attack the weakest" I could see something.
How often are you going to reliably proc Eternal Hunter? It seems that even they realized it was terrible even at 3* so had to make the 6* a direct improvement.
Four years. I waited for four fucking years for my favorite champion to be added to this shitty game, and this is what I get. Riot retarded faggot games, who survived almost 20 years on this market DEPISTE being the most incompetent company in the world, SOMEHOW found a way to not make money AND pissed away their budget on literal fucking whos instead of adding champions people wanted to see. It was definitely worth it to blow thousands on the hecking wholesome poro king, some faggot fish and le dark souls dragon. The last fucking big-budget thing they did was a music video for a mediocre champion, for FIDDLESTICK'S update.I could live without interactions and voice lines. I could live without level up animations. But they couldn't even be assed to print followers for his package, or even make a decent kit. He's worse tha a fucking follower.I cannot express my fucking anger in a way that won't put me in a federal prison.
Some reply to the tweet explains it perfectly, it's a problem some other champs have had to a lesser extent but it's egregious here: He feels like a follower. Admittedly he has a better stat line and much lower cost but he also has a condition and was made for PvE not PvP.
Fiddlesitck chads, that was a close one
I just realized his 6* is objectively worse than Viego's, especially since (from the looks of it) Warwicks 6* overwrites his 3*. You aren't going to be consistently doing 6-12 slaps every turn, even if AoE damage counts as multiple instances which I'm going to assume isn't the case.>>1606127One of the funnest new decks. Fiddle stays winning.
>>1606129Im pretty sure AOE counts. Otherwise we got ourselves the worst POC champ ever.
>>1606103>>1606116>>1606127it definitely feels like Fiddles was already cooking and almost done before the change of focus to PVE.I think they planned the runeterror update to include Tahm and Noct as well based on the music video (randomly focuses in on cards like soulgorger and etherfiend, both have nothing to do with Eve or Fiddles outside of probably being also demons) and only stepped back because the budget is gone but the song was already paid for.This sucks hard and will likely turn off a good chuck of people willing to support/already supporting the game from supporting it.
>>1605957>unconditional +1 starting manawhat the fuck
>>1606283oh my god it's just his 2 star power reposted on another image I though it was his fucking relic
>>1606283I'm pretty sure they did that because it was showing off Blood Hunt.
They gave up on ever updating PvPThey game up on recording voice lines and interactionsThey gave up on making new animationsThey begged on their knees for people to buy the bundlesAll forONESINGLECARD
>>1606442>All for>ONE>SINGLE>CARDWhat? We're getting another champ, it's at least two cards.
I don't like to be a downer but WW release is genuinely grim, I can't lie.
>>1606507That seems to be the general consensus. I would hope they were expecting this, it should be obvious.
Okay guys hear me out, what if they're hiding the rest of his kit because the cards would spoil Arcane season 2? TRUST THE PLAN
FOUR CARDS
HOLY SHIT IT'S ACTUALLY 5 CARDS WE'RE SO FUCKING BACK RUNETERRA BROS
Those are two very lazy champions. They even have essentially the same 2*.
I'm actually amazed that they could manage to find an even less synergistic hodgepodge of units than Warwick's crew. Two followers synergize at all and one of them is new.
https://playruneterra.com/en-us/news/game-updates/patch-5-11-notes/These purple relics look ass though
>5 new adventures (7 if you count the story)Are they planning on doing this every update? It's getting a little ridiculous.>relicsI'm assuming they're non-champ relics so they're just going to be more epic clutter.If not, then Warwicks is an objectively worse version of Beast Within, Ambessa's is ok I guess, not sure 2 seems a little lackluster.
I feel like 5.5* Karma is going to be aids. I swear to god if Irelia is a midboss that doubles played spells I'm going to scream.
Warwick is borderline useless even at full stars, the best he can do is 3 stars if you get lucky with support champs and powersAmbessa is unga bunga fun, always attack like a retard and get infinite value
>ambessa's singular new follower is just a picture directly ripped from ArcaneHoly shit, it's bad.
>>1606897Yep, champ relics.https://x.com/PlayRuneterra/status/1854207212425785465lmao who's going to buy the warwick bundle? A bad champ with a bad relic that's useless on everyone else (maybe excluding Fiddle).The only thing good about his deck is his art (Aand speaking of art, what the fuck is Rictus?)Looking through the items he gets on level up, they're all useless.>boomcrew rookie gets draw>chempunk shredder 5->4>jurry rig invokes for some reason>sump dredger gets barrier>used cask salesman heals and targons brace?>get excited +1 damage>caustic rift gives +1/1 to board>clump of whumps shadow totem and +2/0His constellation mini-upgrades are decent I guess.
>>1607477>what the fuck is Rictus?>>1607461
>Warwick is so bad, they give out Ambessa fragments instead of himTop kek>>1607477>lmao who's going to buy the warwick bundle? A bad champ with a bad relic that's useless on everyone else (maybe excluding Fiddle).This is the most amusing part. Aren't they trying to make money?
>>1607578The new one adventures seem to give out a ton of fragments however.
>>1607580*the new adventuresSpecifically:>1.5*, 10 ambessa>3.5*, 30 ambessa>5.5*, 30 ambessa>2.5*, 10 warwick>4.5*, 30 warwickActually, counting it up and Warwick doesn't get as many here either.
>You can gain the champs constellation spells as wellOh yeah now we are gaming>>1607582>>1607580Yeah he still gets less.
>>1607605https://x.com/RiotDurdle/status/1854218507732554087
Looks like ai in the middle
>>1607639Open the full art, it's terrible. If the other guy's right then it's just a straight rip from Arcane.
Oh yeah Warwick fucking sucks.I'm not even sure if he's better than Kindred, Kindred at least has stall-to win strategy and some usable cards, you're losing units if you're attacking/blocking to activate your 3* and pretty much the whole deck is overpriced with little to no payoff.
Mmmm yes should I take the better or the worse option here...
If you were wondering, doubling up on Warwick's 4* doesn't kill 2hp units.
>>1608475Oh, and for some reason Warwick gives a prompt to strike your own damaged units if there are no damaged enemies despite specifying enemies.
>>1608481>Oh, and for some reason Warwick gives a prompt to strike your own damaged units if there are no damaged enemies despite specifying enemies.Well, everyone wants to be his enemy
>>1608481Also, if you kill an unit with gloom or any nexus effect outside-combat damage, Warwick's 6* will give your nexus +3 health
>Warwick isn't even the final boss of his adventureOh no no no no no
>>1609099He is of the 1*, is the 4.5* different?
>>1609100Yep.
>>1609101lmao
holy fuck Ambessa is a lot of funI have missed these niggas like you wouldn't believe, and Ambessa just lets you spam the shit out of them
>>1609153also forgot to mention how Ambessa just enables them to stack +1's like crazy with her powers and midnight raid
finally got around to doing a 5* or higher adventure with fiddlenot really looking forward to doing it either of the new champs but at least the new adventures also abaolutely shower you in their champ fragments
>>1609785Ambessa's obviously the go-to, thank god you don't have to do it with Warwick. Did you do it on Viego's 5*?
>>1609798nah, did it on the karma one from the event since it's a 5.5the opponent drawing an extra card per turn helps you as much as it does them (even better if you get support teemo like i did)ambessa looks alright, stuns (the 1 cost spell and the ugly looking 2 cost unit) are always nice for doing higher difficulties
struggling to determine who to upgrade.next comment decides.I won't play any black characters, but you guys already succumbed to playing DEI-slop characters so you'll probably suggest them for the lulz.
Wew lad, you can roll asol's power.
>>1610412Heimer is funAshe is an easy win againts those that just love stacking one unit with overwhelm to winFiddlestick is also top tier and funJinx is good in generalAs an avoidance, cait is shit unless you got her purple relic.
>>1610414I went with heimer. thanks~
>>1610413Holy shitI guess you can get the duplicate stats as well>>1610421No problem.
>>1610421nice Heimer is based af and Asol-tier broken if you highroll
>makes new adventure with decks solely from Ionia, the most bullshit antifun region in the entire game>new adventure is unfair and bullshitHuh, who would have guessed
I was thinking of playing this again, but after reading this thread I think I'll stay away.
>>1610829Very insightful post, will consider
>>1610831seething
>>1610833Cry about it
>>1610834kek so mad the game you invested in is so dogshit the devs don't even give a fuck anymore
>>1610836Sorry pvpkek, I don't care about your abandoned mode.
>muh boogiemanunironically seething
>>1610829No one cares. You say this every month or so, there's a good chance you never even played the game.
i lost interest in this game because my favorite champ (darius) got power creeped, but what's the singleplayer like? is he decent in that? or should i not bother?
>>1611165Darius's deck isn't bad, though that's been power creeped too (and his constellation didn't help much with that), but Darius himself is basically unusable because of his cost. His PoC deck is very aggro, you just don't reach 6 mana often.
>>1611161>muh boogiemanAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAAAAAAAAA
>>1611165Darius's deck usually wins with big overwhelm swings within the first two attack turns or you start to fall off and don't win at all. His deck doesn't need him.
>>1611165He's decent, but he's not worth alone since he is basically not needed in his deckWould need some massive boost to units that had overwhelm anyway plus the nature of putting a lot on the board early that high level PoC gets to
Maybe I was a little harsh on warwick when he came out. His deck is still a mishmash of whatever the fuck but he works decently, at least in 3-4.5* games. I just did his 4.5* (level 27, 4*, 1 epic relic (not his)) and I ended up crushing it though admittedly did get some very good rolls. If his items weren't absurdly bad then I think he would've been a lot better, once you get past his early game (which can be mitigated with some powers and his huge regen) everything he drops is huge.
>heimer needs a Bandle nova crystal God damn itWho do I use the P&Z nova crystal on? Already blew my first one on Caitlyn
>>1613166>Already blew my first one on CaitlynYou are so fucking bricked my manI hope you at least have the epic relic>heimer needs a Bandle nova crystalBeen trying to deal with Karma 5.5* with him. This node sucks
>>1613166>Who do I use the P&Z nova crystal on?P&Z options are Cait, Ekko, Jayce, Jinx, Vi, Warwick.Fun fact, every P&Z except Janna has a constellation.
>>1613166>Who do I use the P&Z nova crystal on?jinx probably unless you really want to save it for a potential seraphine/ezrael/janna/viktor/path exclusive champ if we get one of those>>1613169>Karma 5.5*>This node sucksi thought it wasn't that bad personally but i also did it with my 6* (5* technically, no manaflow) vex for the bandle req
>>1613423how was it with Vex? I tried with 5 star Nora twice and I'm getting my ass beat
>>1614600I managed it with Teemo, I figured them drawing would be beneficial. It took me 3-4 runs to get past the second node, it was fucking rough, there were 2 games where I only just won by exact lethal right before they were going to finish me. On a side note I was hoping that'd take care of my Bandle run so I could use Jinx to wrap it up, nope he counted as P&Z because fuck me I guess.
There's a 20/20-hindsight complaint I want to make about RuneterraJarvan IV's level-up animation was a really bad idea. The idea of "anteing-up" the level up animations with full character shots seemed cool at the time but now, with the game on life support, I see tons of really shitty looking level-up animations that ALSO look really expensive to make. A bad combination that I think was due to an inability to meet the standards they had raised for themselves. Don't get me wrong, sometimes they made really great stuff with the full model level-ups like Veigar, but it wasn't worth it in the endAs an example, Ornn's level up is boring fucking trash but when I see it I just imagine how much time and money went into that more-detailed-than-LoL Ornn model that was used for a single 5 second level up animation. Whereas you go to older champions with "cheaper" level-ups and they're more emblematic of the character, clearly cheaper to produce, and lets the card art speak for itself. See: Lucian, Zed, Riven, GP, TF.
>>1614612Lucian's level up is probably the most bang for your buck in the game.
>>1614600it took about the same amount of effort as my jinx run, which is to say not much at all - it was pretty easy
>>1614848Vex's 6* is pretty damn strong so it makes sense.
what the fuck is Ambessa>Drop Legion Marauder>Dupe it with Conscription>GG go nextI got bored of this before my first adventure was over
>>1615231The black warrior granny got DEI points so Warwick wouldn't overshadow her.
>>1615231Legion Marauder was my favorite gimmick back when PoC wasn't a thing and I've been wanting these niggas on a PVE deck for the longest time
Poor Asol.>+3/+3 per keyword>+2/+2 +1 keyword (given) on summon>trifarian might>overwhelm>support was a Lucian with double attack