Ash Echoes came out a day or two agohttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3068700/Ash_Echoes_Global/Also on google/apple storehttps://www.prydwen.gg/ash-echoes/
Game quality is honestly pretty goodI wish Christian didn't die he's such a cool character he didn't even get 3 minutes of screentime
Nice presentation. This has some high production values.
is it good OP?
>>1613786>>1613869Very two normal comments totally not suspicious at all
>>1613786>cringe faggot design>cringe faggot voicedude deserved his shitty offscreen death
i like how npcs all have unique appearances but i also hate how the cutest loli won't be playable
>>1614149>Not playable what are they thinking?
>>1614099Yeah, sorry for posting like a normal human and not someone raised by /vg/ irony.
Who should I reroll for?
>>1614146All the other character designs are way too Chinese for me, sorry ZhangI uninstalled after my selector and not getting Felicio
>>1614322Seems kind of miserable to reroll when you get an easy selector.
>>1613737Post gameplay
>>1614026I like that it doesn't have the current gachashit that fatigues me like having to gear every single characterI'm on the last step of getting my random 6* before I pick my selector
>>1614322The girl on rate-up according to tierlists, I don't have her, and obviously I don't have most of the other 6*s so I can't compareElectric as an entire element seems really strong though if the map has water or if you have someone who can create water puddles
fujo game
kani game
this event is long as fuck
tfw didnt roll the ultimate 5* support somehow
>>1614475I think that's most people unless they dumped all of their gems; most of the free rolls are coming in logins during the next ~3 weeks
>>1614475samewell i'll just have to pick up her from 7 day beginner quest
>>1614483I have a few rolls left but waiting on the random 6* before I guarantee my 6* in case I get the offense/defense music girl
rerolled once and got the 6* airplane girl in 20 pulls so I guess I'll play for a bit
BUBBLES LOVE
>>1614492>>1614513rerolled once and got the waters twins got bubbles too she didnt really like my drink tho tried to change the settings but it keeps crashing on bluestacks
what a beautiful Duwang
protip: don't accept the stamina rewards from leveling up, claim them as needed so you it doesn't overflow
does anyone have access to phase 6 quests? curious what they are but I am stamina gated on phase 5
>>1614616Aieee nevermind day just changed over and I progressed
>>1614616To put it simply, it's gonna take a few days unless you do pay refreshes.
PROTIP: THIS IS MIXED TOILET GACHA I SAVE YOU 2 SECONDS LOOKING IT UP
Protip: look at character information before investing in themit took me three days to realize Caroline is a boy
>>1614653Stay in your schizo containment hole
I got the furry twins are they good or should I reroll?
>>1614665in five months they'll be powercrept by much cuter girl
Thanks, picked up.
>>1614663downloading this game right now
>>1614669She looks cute, but after 5 rerolls and still not SRR maybe I should just take the garutee on next banner.
I have no Idea what I am doing.
>>1614854Neither do I. Seems like the meta is just to use a team based around a specific element reaction thoughPhysical DPS (like rate-up girl) pure ungabunga and ignore all element reactionsExplosion; someone who can put fire on the ground + an electric DPS to get free aoe explosionsMelt, Ice Zone + Fire damage or Fire Zone + ice damage which fucks up enemy armorElectroconduct, water zone + electric damage which then hits every single enemy in the water, so single target attacks can become AoE for free. Also spams stunlocks on enemies when they take electric damageAnd then Corrosion which is just sticking as many corrosion characters as you can on the team since every time the gauge fills up you get a free mapwide AoE that hits hard
>>1614886Yea the elemental reactions seem pretty powerful, I've only noticed Electrocution so far. Because of the free frog Shaman girl from discord and The electro tank we get from the first pull. I guess I'll read if the other units I have can Synergise in any of the ways you've listed thanks anon.Also didn't expect the bar tending mini game.
>>1614898According to PrydwenI missed two element reactions;Fire Zone + Water damage or Water zone + Fire damage creates mist that gives your characters 50% damage reduction if they're standing inside itAnd water zone + ice damage or ice zone + water damage can freeze enemies; once they're frozen hitting them again with ice damage again has an rng chance to instantly kill them (bosses and elites are probably immune to it though Prydwen didn't say it). I don't have good water+ice characters actually test it though, or how high the chance isThere's also Wind who doesn't react at all, but does extra damage to flying enemies and can blow away poison mist
>>1614663really based I wish he was better, but still usable on dot team
>>1614854Like someone else said this game is very synergy/team focusedyou can look at prydwen for team examples
Kind of comfy gameThe battles feel very fluid
Ngl one of my favorite features so far is that when it shows you a list of players to send friend requests to, it only displays players that are actually online instead of a random list of players who may or may not have even logged in for days
Ok I'm getting coin starved FUCK
>>1615011SIXTEEN THOUSAND COINS for s3 > s4and I get like 2k per 30 stamina I'm so fucked
I'm so fucking close do not dupe me please
>>1614663I suspected it as soon as I heard the JP voice
>>1614663He owes me bussy
What teams is everyone using? I was using the freeze team with ivana till I got cen ying
>>1615126I got off-banner Lorelle while trying to roll Cen Ying, so I went Corrosion team + FredaConsidering selecting Longqing after the free rolls are gone though and using her as team leader + SSR Nightmare MemorySince Longqing + SSR Nightmare can instantly give your entire team a permanent +80% damage buff 1 second into combat
localizers you lazy fucks
>>1615149I need freda alreadyfeels like I wasted a bunch of materials on bubbles when freda is the bis in slot for almost every team
>>1615156I'm not sure if she's actually bis or just all the guides use her because at worst you grab her on the day 7 SR selector and she works on all teams, and then you can max dupe her over timeLongqing seems to have higher heals (but has some rng involved), can not only attack but seems to actually do decent damage + AoE + Anti-Air, can shield your team + make them immune to ranged projectile attacks + give them up to 50% damage reduction (10% from leader, 40% from seed); and seems to be a very good choice for Leader with Inspire stacking. Easy +80% permanent team damage if you grab Nightmare >>1615149 that can be activated instantly as soon as battle starts. You can get +200% off this, but obviously needs you to pray on dupes in the longterm.I'm just not sure which teams have someone else they should be putting in as leader though; and the obvious that if you use your SSR selector on Longqing then you can't use it on someone else who can't easily be replaced with an SR
you get Longqing because she's metai got Longqing because i'm a pedo
>>1615175I was already planning to get either her or Ivana based purely off of looks, then looked at her kit and realized she's also meta on top of being cute
Will this game live? It doesn't even have a general on /vg/
bitch you're in my office sit normally
>>1615250That doesn't really mean much man
>>1615250make a general
>>1615250Hard to say. It's the first time I've seen someone try to do a Gacha RTS with a somewhat dense stat system. It has males so it's not a for you pandering game, they didn't bother with an ENG dub so they aren't really expecting much from the western release. No idea how well it's doing in Asia either, it could be good because they bothered translating or bad becasue they wanted more revenue than what local was providing.It's got a niche in a very saturated market but only time will tell if it's going to EOS.
Tea time is the hardest contentWho would think Lorelle would hate hot ginger tea
>>1615327>he doesn't cheat at tea timei admire your fortitude
Retard characters are great.
>>1615104>three s6 06 06jesuschrist
Last day to do Joint Training before it refreshes for the week
>>1615509I thought that way too but it's actually less materials than 1-4 was also it's only 6/6 for the 2 skills
I wish auto didn't use the ultimates
>>1615126longqing cenying samb flex
the nexus confuses me, what's the difference between the blue and red one?
Husbando banner when?
>>1615634In theory they have a specific debuff that you have to deal with, in actual practice what you're going to care about is that they have separate achievement rewards so you're going to want to clear out both
Is the story any good or is it just regular run of the mill gacha stuff? I've been skipping most of it ngl
>>1615703I read tutorial/chapter 1, which was okay but not amazing and then skipped everything else so I could actually spend stamina. I haven't gone back and read the rest yetI did read the event though. which was a bit long-winded in my opinion
>>1615703I only read Chapter 1 but it's interestingBasically the world is infected by these radiation monsters like Arknights, but certain people develop powers from the radiation and become agents for the government. Those who can't handle the radiation instantly die so the agents are basically the only defense of humanity. However, agents themselves can die if they are overexposed to radiation because the crystal inside them that holds their powers can overwhelm their body from excess radiation growth.It's not super accurate but that's what I remember. Also apparently your mentor kills you in the future?? Or at least works with the main antagonist. But you travel back in time before that happens so it's a "find out why the future sucks while stuck in the past" episode
>>1615635going by CN schedule, we're getting double release with this dude and Scarlett next (but only Scarlett gets memory trace rate up)then banners go loli-dude-hag-dudeand then there's four months husbando drough where six women(none of them loli) were released in a row lmaohttps://wiki.biligame.com/bjhl/%E5%8E%86%E5%8F%B2%E5%8D%A1%E6%B1%A0%E4%B8%80%E8%A7%88
>>1615814Okay thanks. Does pity carry over? I lost 50/50 for Cen Ying (to Lorelle) so now I'm not sure if I should try to get her or maybe save for some guysManaged to get Caroline and Sephonis so I'm just running a corrosion team. Haven't used the 6 star selector because I kinda want to see who I get for completing the phase 6 quests first. Though getting Cyros or Luke just for husbando purposes is still tempting
>>1615821It carries over, but only within the same "type" of banner. So rolling on standard banner doesn't help you at all on the new character spotlight banners and vice versa. If they ever do limited banners for anniversary or something that most games eventually do, that'll probably count as a third separate type of banner as well.Old character spotlight banners seem to count as standard banners though, as you can tell with the Lorelle banner and compare the banner history.(If you look at the pull history on the Cen Ying banner, you'll see all the pulls on it, but if you look carefully your tutorial pull that game made you pull on the standard banner isn't there. If you look at the pull history on the Lorelle banner, you can see the single 1x pull the tutorial made you do, if you look on the regular standard banner it also shows that same one single 1x pull from the tutorial).
Who pick
>>1615704Basic account upkeep functions gated behind story is always dumb. It just encourages skipping.
>>1615847it doesnt matter you get all three i picked middle then left i think
How bad is the nexus full auto?
I'll be able to finish phase 6 and see if I get fucked on the random SSR on resetBut then I will have no stamina to farm up whoever I get/can select afterwards AAAAAAAA
>>1615853Okay thank you
>>1615847>>1615868think I saw somewhere explosion team is the most useful if you aren't already building a team but I am not sure how accurate that is since I have only played with freeze team early
i wonder if she posts on Senlo's 4chan
please don't give me a dupe please don't give me a dupe
>>1615906>Zodivinbut i already have Longqing, i dont need more healersat least she's cute
>why the fuck floor and walpaper cost six fucking thousands>the bar also changesmoney well spent
>>1615911>at least she's cutei retract my statement>drinks herself>gives the same drink to her goathorse>then you talk to her, she again sips from the same glassshit's disgusting what the fuck is wrong with this bitch
fanservice status?
>>1615903The puppet shitposts non stop, she just watches Thunderbolt Fantasy.
>>1615939If you like tummies you're in luck
I think echoing nexus is going to filter most people.
>>1616028Echoing Nexus is pretty easy though?The real filter right now is probably going to be the event boss at 200% or above
if the leader has a skill I don't need to equip a memory also with it then?
>>1616098My understanding is that they stack unless they explicitly say they don't stack; since some of them do explicitly say they don't stackThat said, no idea what is actually optimal in terms of avoiding diminishing returns
wait did Deep Observation reset yesterday?
>>1616164might be cause of weekly reset
>>1616190I didn't unlock it. My fucking rolls...
>>1616195Don't worry, I actually unlocked it last week, and it told me that it would become available after weekly reset. So you didn't actually miss anything anyways
>>1615703Just started chapter two and it's nothing special but the execution is pretty interesting. But it feels like the translation is off or the text didn't get an editor's eye because continuity seems to break at a few points and the transition between you dealing with protestors and suddenly rushing into a boss fight with NPCs that kinda came out of nowhere and dumped vague lore that doesn't have nearly enough context in the moment to be engaging.
shouldn't max pity be 50? I'm at 52 and it says 7 more for guaranteed ssr
>>1616484I'm at 50 rolls and it says 9 more for me as well, so I assumed they either meant to type 50 there or they fucked up and set it at 50 internally when it's supposed to start at 40
>>1616091Easy for you maybe I find it all deeply confusing.
>>1616265Nice. Anyone playing the corrosion team? Curious if it's a meme or not cause Gina is so fucking cute
>>1616649Not them but essentially in the early game (And maybe even lategame) you will want to be able to get 20 inspiration stacks for the biggest powerboost.I think most teams want to max out their MST and ATK with defense being the third most important stat, but correct me if I'm wrongso in the nexus you want to prioritize leveling up the cards that give you stacks for your team that you can fulfill i.e "fire unit casts barrier, anyone summoning or using a buffing skill"
>>1616719Also - there are suggested traces you can use in the top right, before you start the nexus to see how the "Top Engravings" built their team for that week using those as a guideline for your main leader and actually reading what they do so you can find substitutes will be good.
>>1616582huh, that's usually grounds for refundsanyone knows what's the chinese pity?
>>1616484>>1616744Memory Trace are the equips right? not the character?
>>1616746yes
>dps so high I can't stun the marionette 4 times before it dies on 245%
need some sort of dps meter at the end so I can see who is overrated dogshit or not
>>1616716Only tried other elements early game before I off-bannered Lorelle and testing around with Cen Ying, but they feel okay. They're probably currently held up higher than they should be just because of Lorelle though, where it sounds like almost every other team uses Lorelle on their team anyways even if she doesn't match the element reaction. Caroline is good, but you have to manually switch between modes. Don't have Gina to try her. Sephonis is okay but feels kinda clunky to use. In theory she has infinite skill uses, but because they fucked her with 3-uses before she recharges she can only actually sort of use her Skirmisher passive of being able to use her skill twice in a row without cooldown. And she has to channel so despite her skill looking like it hits as hard as other people's Seed skills it actually does probably closer to half damage since she loses her normal attack, until you use her Seed skill twice.Main advantage so far seems to be that they don't get fucked over by weather since they don't care about dry/normal/wet, they just sit there building corrosion stacksIf we're looking purely at the strongest team right now though, I get the feeling it would be a team with Cen Ying/Luke, since they're both physical and they're also both summoner which means you can double-dip in buffs for both summoner and physical and then just go pure ungabunga>>1616744Trying to remember, did we get a 10x-roll on echoes during the tutorial? Only other thing I can think of is that the jewed us out of the tutorial rolls counting for soft-pity, which is confusing since it's literally just 10-rolls and if anyone was rerolling on them anyways they wouldn't be counting on that soft-pity anyways
Fucking hate that combo uses 2 skill usageand all? the combo users have an odd number of usage crystals
>>1616772makes no sense to me that its so restrictive but i guess its another way future units could be more powerful with extra skill slots
Finally got Cen Ying after losing 50/50 and taking some 60 something pulls to get her, and I'm highly tempted to just grab Luke from the selector already, but I've got 3 quests left for phase 5 so I want to see who I'll get from the random free 6 star after phase 6 first. Don't want to grab him and then end up getting a dupe
>>1616780Smart, although Luke's S1 is actually alright.
do we have a guild?
why is the score lower even though I went deeper?
>>1616941Score is just the five stats added togetherEither you got unlucky with nodes, or you picked more skill options instead of stat options
I like the character designs of the game. Interested in trying it out. Anything about the game which stands out? How's the gacha and the equipment system? Shame it's not popular enough to get it's own general
FUCK I JUST NOTICED ECHO NEXUS REQUIRES CURRENCY TO RUN I'VE BRICKED MYSELF
>>1617212>Anything about the game which stands out?It's an RTS style which I don't think I've ever seen another gacha do.Gear is done through a roguelike minigame I'm too low IQ to have figured out.> How's the gacha and the equipment system?Typical Gacha roll for characters there's 4*,5*,6*You also roll for memory traces which are basically equipment? But only one person needs them and they apply buffs to the entire team which is usually 4 on fielders x off fielders that can get be swapped.>Shame it's not popular enough to get it's own generalThe gacha space is just to competitive and this is very niche.I think the art, music are great. The story is hit or miss, it's a science fiction so it tires to etasblish a lot of technical terms and technologies rapidly I think it's just going to go over alot of peoples heads.Worth checking out if you're a fan of RTS controls otherwise, I don't know a lot of things could grab your attention instead market is full of gacha.
why is everyone in this game so sadistic.
Liking the art of the game so far
>>1617219it replenishes every 24h
Which one to choose? Also should I save it for now?
>>1617464if you don't have anyone or team in mind keep it, atleast untill you get the random 6* for doing those phase quests. otherwise look at who fits into the echomancers you've pulled thus far.I see most people shilling Lorelle due to her flexability or Cyros but honestly just look at what elemental reactions you like and pick a unit that lets you enable that.
>>1616781I went ahead and picked him anyway, because I'm impatient and also because I would rather have him be one of the units I level to S4 and shit for these phase quests.
>>1617464if you have cen ying just get luke
>>1617464Best overall: Longqing, LorelleSummon team: Luke (good in general, best on summon team)Corrosion: Lorelle (she's also just the best generic tank due to her utility)Fire/electric team: Cyros/HongxiuIvana is just OK, the gremlins can create a water pool but they're getting powercrept pretty quickly, Tong is a burst DPS but weaker than Cen Ying overall, Hassel is good but the best character in the game completely power creeps him, and Zodivin is good for long battles but Longqing has yet to have competition in her role.
>>1617481>>1617731>>1617787Thanks for the suggestion. I wanted to pull more in the targeted extraction banner but it ended today? Didn't know that. There's a traces extraction going on and is it the gear system? I think it's similar to the matrix system from tower of fantasy but it's only applied to the mc instead of different characters equipping different traces. So should I be pulling on traces or save for upcoming character banner?
best SR memory to get with the selector?
I just realized I could use heavy dupe characters to easily get the skills to lvl 6 since they get +3 at seed 4&5
>>1617804Wait that counts?
Does Su Xiao's little bot that heals/shields count as a summon, as in it provides bonuses for skills that require summons, or do I have to use her barrier to activate that?
steam says it's not available in my country. the pc neocraft version on the site is the same server/version right?
Is this the game where you pick 2 elements and stick with it?
Tier whore elemental BS: Pull Uni + Skylar + Jean, blind yourself off all the elemental reactionsFire/lightning explosion team: Selector Cyros/Mo (optional), pull Thea + Tishi/Jean, shit fire with Cyros/Thea, watch Tishi/Jean turn the map into a craterSummon/physical team: Pull Cen Ying, selector Luke, wait for Midas, watch Midas murder everythingCorrosion: Pull/selector Lorelle, wait for Leilani/Solbyrd (or both), pray your corrosion detonation explodes at the right moment (or just let Leilani accelerate it for you)Ice/freeze team doesn't exist atm, you could cope with Feng since she's just good but you'll just slap her into the tier whore comp anyway.Boreas/Elpis are just good supports and should be pulled unless you just hate them. Titia is a good support option for any element team. Otherwise Freda is the best character in the game.Base your pull plans on how much you wanna invest. Summon team is cheapest due to them all being extremely good without dupes (also it's by far the easiest to play). Corrosion team is really dupe hungry esp on Solbyrd and without Leilani you're just gambling that the corrosion detonates at the right time. Elemental teams are generally very strong and can (mostly) ignore environments for the most part, but rely heavily on synergy (and pulling on a ton of debut banners) and having characters that can create zones for them.
>>1617799Depends on the team you're using, check pryden for suggest traces or get something with an inspire you can reliably trigger.>>1617856It's listed as a summon but it depends on the skill, seeing as it's always present as a passive skill anything require active skill use wouldn't work, anything increasing dps wouldn't work becasue its healing only, but something like >Coordinated summonwhich mererly requires a summon, she'd get atleast 1 use out of. I don't think the barrier would count as a re-summon as much like Sephonis (doll users) she's just repositioning her existing summon, where as luke and cen are producing more.>>1617900Yea you would be in the global server or whatever region, Steam is probably just a launcher and it's not being run on the their services just a way for the game to get more publicity. >>1618056Depends on what elemental reactions you're trying to acheive, you could go 3 fire and 1 water unit who can make water terain just for the elemental reaction. Or full stack corrision and pshical teams and ignore the element system as they don't interact.Right now though when resources are so sparse, I'd only be focusing on 1 team maybe 2 as the game lets you swap in other members. But later on maybe you'll want more for the Joint training or the Engraving system the averages out your best runs.
>>1618067Thanks for this anon. It looks like their going to be running the CN banner as they've annouced >Scarlet >Baili TusuSo it seems like I'll try going for UNI as midas is probably a 10+ months away.
>new CN guy trusts nobody, not even himself>new CN girl is generic chink>Maizuru still not playable
>>1617818I don't know, I'll try for the next mission (I only need one more right now to get the first ticket)
how will airplane girl age without a dupe? I was trying to get one and got luke so now I'm sitting on guaranteed which seems a bit wasteful to spend it on a dupe
Ive already rolled 60 times on the limited banner without a 6* but it says 17 more pulls required for a guaranteed 6*. I thought pity was at 70?
>>1617818>>1618183nevermind, I checked again and it says only base skill levels are counted
>>1618275maybe it's the same issue as >>1616769 that the tutorial pulls didn't count
>didn't get the trace maxed in nexus so I can't get max inspire stacksI'm starting to hate nexus and how much rng there is
>>1618391Don't forget it costs spirit to enter, I could deal with shitty RNG if it didn't cost Spirit to even try. It should really only cost Spirit to save an engraving rather than an attempt.
It's all so fucking confusing
>>1618603>upgrade to get extra stats at stat increase nodes if this card triggers illuminati, also boosts chance to illuminate check card's nexus stats for shits related to this
>>1618607No, I mean in general. How do you know which skills to focus on which characters? Are there any dedicated guide websites? Prydwen doesn't explain shit. I know a summon character wants to focus on getting summon skills but I don't have any 6* characters yet and the game wants me to upgrade and invest in bunch of 5* characters and Im not sure what to do like in picture related. What skills does Yuqi even want??
Lost cen ying pity to them. Are they any good? Should I build them? What other characters goes well with them? They are my only 6*
>>1618653Short answer: For you it really doesn't matter yet since you don't have an actual functioning team nor proper memory traces yet, and you'd unironically see a huge improvement just from doing a random new run every few hours and just hitting auto-select skills at the end of the runLong answerIt depends on your team. Generally the "main skill" is way more impactful than the six "sub-skills" on the memory trace. And the biggest impact you're going to see early on is just stacking stacks of Inspires that you can trigger until you hit max stacks at 20
>>1618653There's no easy way for me to simplify the information.Just stack inspire.Engraving minmaxing is really for when you have a team in mind as it's not just about what 1 Echomancer wants.Yuqi wants VIT becasue he scales off it, ATK and MST are also useful to him. He's an okay tank, he makes it easy to proc electrocution so he idealy wants water terrain or a unit that can crate it. Like Furray and Furney Or Sambheka.You probably have Sambheka as she's a free 5* they're giving on discord.That's 2 units for your electro team, then just add a support and either a strong DPS or another Electro DPS and you've got a team.When you've got a team of 4 characters then you can worry about what skills you want to bring and how to get the most out of their gimmick in this case the water + electricty reaction.Without a team don't stress too hard on nexus and just try and run it for highscores on several different units.Pryden is useful don't sleep on them.https://www.prydwen.gg/ash-echoes/guides/team-building/https://www.prydwen.gg/ash-echoes/guides/echoing-nexusif you don't want to read the articles which are good imo, watch a youtube video on it. I don't even 100% get it myself but I don't even have a finished team so it's whatever.
how do you guys decide if a memory trace is worth rolling for?
>>1618681They can create on demand water zones which is very useful, worth building them if you want to do reactions with water, basically exist to setup other units.
Oh, the final area of Joint Training unlocked. Not sure why they had it unlock in the middle of the week instead of at weekly reset thoughThey also unlocked the 100k/120k/144k rewards but they're just Badges of Origin and not X Particles.>>1618709By whether or not they're an important part of the element team I want to make. Skimming the CN memory traces on Prydwen, it feels like the newer CN ones aren't powercreeping the old ones; it's just about filling in the holes. Because of that, it feels like a waste to spent X-particles on them, just roll with the tickets you get.
Any guilds to join?
>>1618709a lot of teams seem to like two atk or two mst so i thought its fine to roll for it
>>1618838I rolled ended up rolling for it and getting it on my last pull, I mostly did it becasue I noticed the main skill was an inspire and thought it'd be universally useful and after what >>1618718 said about future CN memory traces not being turbo powercreep.
>>1618681i use them on a lightning team
why does a cute baby seal sound like an old man what the fuck
>>1618907https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ2uhJscsZ4
You DID clear 300% right anons?
wasted my luck on this drone girls banner I got 3 copies of her in 60 rolls I just wanted to roll freda
>>1618975I maxed out rewards at 250% a few days ago so no
New guy here. I'm sorta running a Water + Ice team with Ivana, Begonia, Sambekha and Bubbles. Who else should I use?Caroline a cute.
What if blank chips are to store engravings, what does spirit do?
>>1619419bubbles can be replaced by freda or longqing
>>1619431>freda or longqing Guess I'll have to endure for a while before getting one of them.
>>1619433freda can be acquired by the daily nexus eventlongqing can be borrowed in (most) content
>>1619434That's good to know. I just need to do nexus event then.
who should I pick bros?
>>1619445save it for now
fuck reflect
>>1619445Caroline is important for Corrosion teamsLydia for Lightning teamsOther than that you're set
I'm rank 27 and I just learnt that the terminal has skills
Got them as my random freebie from Phase 6. Kinda disappointing to spend so much time working towards that goal just for this ngl
>>1619541They're honestly good becasue they can create on demand large water zones for elec water teams.they get powercrept by Uni but unless you plan to roll for her, you're good.
>>1619538yea theres a lot of info to take in in this game you get distracted
>>1619445Not owned: Lydia (replaced by 6*s later, but GL rolling for all of that team without swiping/luck), Gina (if corrosion is your thing), Felicio (attack speed buffer, good for speedruns), Caroline (see Gina)Owned: Freda loves dupes and is the best character in the gameBut yeah you could just hold onto it and wait for a dry spell on your pull plans to grab one.
>>1619541I lost my 50/50 from cen ying to them. They have been a staple in water-electricity team for me. On demand water terrain plus technically unlimited skill usage is great
>>1619562>>1619603I don't think I have too many lightning units atm but I did get a random Begonia so maybe I could do a freeze teamHow many teams are you meant to have by endgame anyway? Is there any endgame mode that will lock characters to being on only one team?
Loving the game so far but anyone knows why my fans go into overdrive when I launch it? I've an alright rig (rtx 3060, ryzen 7 3700x, 16gb ram) and even the task manager shows its not taking up much processing power. But the fans go haywire whenever I launch the game. I haven't heard of the devs before which is sus. I have checked their past games aren't doing too well and ignored by the devs. Im concerned if the devs added something malicious to their launcher or not
Thoughts on upcoming patch charactersScarlett - Pull: Maybe?Scarlett is good, but I don't think she's good enough (comparatively to Uni + Jean combo or Feng or Corrosion w/ dupes) unless you're a fan of her playstyle/design. Her main benefit is being Wind which pairs well with Azusa for 100% shredding + massive DPS and she's effectively immortal while spinning. She's a good bosser but she's competing with summon team (which isn't amazing until Midas) and Corrosion team (which isn't amazing until Leilani) so she at least warrants consideration. If you plan on using one of those teams and you're not trying to rank super high I'd say skip and/or wait for a rerun.Baili Tusu - Pull: Probably notHe has two gimmicks: he's a Fire Striker that deals with monofires main weakness (killing air units), and he's a Fire Striker meaning you get max value off of certain memory traces with the usual suspects (Cyros + Mo). That being said, you'll probably just use a more generic character (like Scarlett) instead, since his damage isn't nearly as good. He also takes a little time to scale up to full value, which makes him bad for speed runs, but if you're considering him, you were already using fire team. Maybe worth considering if you plan on pulling Thea as a "healer" and committing to the full team, but it's not as good as other elemental teams and his lack of utility is not a great place to be. Also Fire team is getting a new Fire Vanguard soon, so he might lose his spot even in Fire team depending on kit (Thea covers anti air as well).Keep in mind that a lot of the pulls we're getting for free are limited time, so you might just try your luck since they might expire before. More importantly, keep in mind that next patch has Skylar (good support/debuffer for Jean Uni team) and Boreas (extremely good support for EVERY team) so consider your income before pulling on this patch.
>>1619665Check your settings I run a shitbox and my fans aren't going crazy. perhaps the fps on the menu is uncapped or something silly like that.
My free RNG 6 * Star got me Mo Hongxiu. Is she good or did I just get RNG bricked? Im salty slighlty becasue I spent the last week upgrading Yuqi
>>1619724Thanks for the write ups, honestly I only plan to pull on them for free 8 pull discount.Scarlet looks prety cool If I had pulled Shiratori I might have gone for her.
>>1619728she seems fine i picked her cause i got cyros
Sorry if dumb question but how do I get these to 100%? Im seeing rewards for 200% so I know Im not doing something correctly
>>1619819You don't. Each one is worth 20%, so they cap out at 60% multiplier per zone.Later you will unlock the hard mode versions, but that actually still only adds 5% each per node, so 75% in each zone. Not sure if CN later adds an even harder difficulty though.Rewards go up to 200% though because you unlock two other zones.
>>1619819this is how mine looks, the important thing is that the final battle max difficulty increases with more zones so remember to do it again for more points
>wasted my guarantee with dupeoops, on the bright side it only took 10 rolls
Should I roll for Luke or saved for a limited banner? Rolling for a standard character just feels so anti gacha.
>>1619847never roll on standard banners, just use your 5* selector
>>1619852I got cen in a 10 roll i've been too scared to roll since.
What ascension level should I be aiming to take my dps to, and what level for their skills?What's a good ascension and skill level to leave my supports at?
>>1619728She's good, less buffing than Lorelle but barrier + pulls enemies together is good for small AOE characters. She's best with elemental teams.>>1619847Luke is good even if he's standard. With that said, probably worth using the 300 selector on him if you still have it up instead of rolling. Gives you time to maybe lose 50/50 and get him.
>got 3 Cen Ying in 180 rollsI am gonna lose next banner so hard
>>1619932your stuff should be maxed for your current level, or really, just follow the phase quests as it takes a lot of stamina to go through them
>>1616098>>1616109revisiting this, I tried a run without right hand man memory and it was available at the end of the run (only at lvl 2 because cen ying is S4)I don't think it stacks since the skill only shows once, but that doesn't mean it's completely useless to equip a memory with a skill your leader has because memories have also subskills
I don't really trust prydwen especially when they have direct ties to the publisher/game, are the 4*s really that bad? Even at max dupes?
Oh yeah if anons haven't done it, definitely join a guild as soon as possible there are stamina items and other stuff that seem to refresh weekly
>>1619983You shouldn't trust them normally either, they're notorious for having godawful tierlistsIronically this one probably has the best tier list out of every single game they've ever covered, solely off of the basis that they can (and probably did) just copy from CN tier lists where they have ~10 months of experience playing the gameMost 4*s really do feel bad though, even at max dupe. From just trying things out over the last two weeks and trying to improve Engraving rating; S3 4*s even at max dupe feel slightly worse than good 0 dupe S3 5*s, and even struggle against 0 dupe S2 6*sThey're still going to be useful for the next few months for people needing to fill in specific elements/positions in their team thoughI think Mars is mentioned as one of the standout 4*s who is actually decent, since he spends most of his time buffed from his auto-skill and doing lightning damage, which will spam procs if you're using any lightning reaction; can knock down air, and can reduce enemy lightning res.
This is too much. This shouldn't cost 40 stam for only 100 chips. Increase the amount and/or decrease the stamina consumption. Or increase the amount we get from events and guild.
>>1620078Yea it's abit much. I initally thought the game was very generous with stamina food but now realize it would simply take too long to build characters otherwise.
>>1620094This game has been in CN for 10 months right? How did they react to it? Is it fixed there? Do they give more from their events?
>>1620078yea the stamina costs are all fucked up to delay you
>nexus auto>glass cannon build>100 mental loadnever again
>>1620212I wish I was confident enough to auto but i'm always worried the AI is shit that and it cost resources to even run.
Will Liege, Bai Ji, and Yixu end up playable?
I know it's probably not the best idea but I kinda want to roll on the Luke banner to see if I can get him seed 1 now for the extra skill use, because that seems handy
>first s engram and I only get 10 inspire maxwhat the fuck!
dios mio
>>1620435Probably wait for your 300 selector to pick a dupe luke if you really want anon, rolling standard is kind of cooked
>>1620443i just reached 30 so i could upgrade some stuff but not quite there yet got lucky after the boss tho for the final nightmare upgrade
>>1620491Pretty much as soon as I S5'd I was able to S rank
are you guys going to create a guild
>>1620532just join one bro
>done like 200 rolls already>still have 20k currency and 20 rollsgod I know it's a bunch of first time rolls but I feel like the last gachashit I played was so stingy with this shit
I know its the honeymoon period and we're getting so many rolls but has anyone bothered to calculate how many recurring pulls we get every patch/monthly? On a side note, getting random 5* in this game kinda sucks since you can't really fit someone in any random team. I need Lorelle but I randomly got a fire tank and a water dps
>>1620459Standard banner has the same wording as the rerun banner in CN IIRC, so you could just toss rolls in and see if you get lucky, and if not bank it for a meta rerun you skipped.
>>1620604In theory;20220 X-Particles per month guaranteed (~67 rolls)1000 + 600 worth of rolls from monthly sign-in750 per week (x4 weeks) + 3000 total from Joint Training (I think, since it ends perfectly on 12/30 I think they had first season last slightly over a month just so players weren't punished for not rushing content if they had the first season end at 11/30 instead, remove 1000 gems per month if it actually does only reset once every 6 weeks instead of once a month)960 per 2 weeks (x2) from Skyrift Observation120 for doing dailies (x30)500 for doing weeklies (x4)600 minimum from maintenance2250 Monthly shop (5 unit rolls worth 1500 + 5 memory trace rolls worth 750)2550 from event if all events give similar rewards to the Cen Ying event In actual practice probably quite a bit more. This isn't counting any one-time completion gems for content they add. For example, adding a new story chapter seems to be about 4000 X-Particles from clearing normal + elite mode + achievements, as well as an SSR Memory Trace. Haven't unlocked the very last memory challenge which recommends S32 power but the 4th node alone is 5x memory trace rolls each, plus 300 x-particles from earlier nodes. So 1050 x-particles from first four nodes. If they add an entire zone like Nexus: Phenomena/Nexus: Mirage that's 5280-5880 X-particles that you very slowly grind out
>>1620555indeed its good ive saved a lot for the next banner
huhdid they give us 3x update with a recent update or did I just unlock it by hitting level 34?
>>16209543x speed*
Don't pull for the upcoming limited trace. It's not worth it, there are much better memory traces for Inspire stacks. If you haven't gotten the current one get it, otherwise use your older limited time pulls on standard and save the later ones for the next memory trace.
>>1620752Thank so very much for your hard work. Btw how many of those are extreme end game type content which will be unit gated/power gated? Lets say I have only a A25 summoner team built. How much am I gonna miss out of those 67 pulls?
>>1621205None of the monthly gems there, the big thing is you're not going to be able to get anywhere close to beating the Memory Challenge stuff, which isn't timed and is just permanent content. Same with the full clearing and farming Nexus which I think needs you to intentionally go above Layer 12 and just keep going higher and higher, even though the stat gains don't scale beyond Layer 12 so you're intentionally just buffing the enemy infinitely for the sake of one-time rewards.A25 should easily clear everything else in terms of X-Particle rewards. Even A20 could probably do it.
Got her from the phase 6 random 5* ticket and I don't wanna play anymore. Getting random ass 5* in this game fucking sucks
>>1621346She's literally the best healer anon. Everyone else is a buffer first, healer second.
>>1621346You're fine. She's a healer and thus will slot into any team, you'd be worse off if you got someone like furay and furney and didn't feel like building a water elemental reaction team.Also they give us two 5* selectors. The phase 6 just feels bad becasue it takes so long to get to phase 6.
>>1621346i got hassel but he doesnt really fit on my current team so i rolled for luke
>>1620954>>1620955I think you're right it must have been an update. I'm only 30. 2x does feel slow if you're trying to auto it all.
>>1621363>>1621369>>1621373Ok thanks for making me feel better. Upcoming future characters look insane so I will stick around.
what else can I build apart from summon team? any future characters that would enable a 2nd team?
>>1621450Corrosion
>Had to pity cen ying>Picked Luke from selectorI can make do without Lorelle, r..r..ight?
>>1621450You could roll for Scarlett to get a wind team with Azusa and have Lorelle and Freda support them.Wind is very good anti air and doesn't rely on elemental reactions.You can corrision as you have Lorelle and another 5* corrision but you don't really have much control over when corrision pops.>>1621487yea you're fine Lorelle doesn't actually syngergise with the team, she's just the best tank due to how versatile she is, yuqi or tian ruo will both do fine as they're exist to just get beaten by mobs will the summons deal DPS.
>>1621487Summon team doesn't have a dedicated tank yet. Just run whatever.
>>1621450Most of the upcoming meta teams are all debut characters outside of throwing Freda in. Electrocution team is all new characters, summon team needs Midas, Wind team needs Scarlett + Elpis, Feng/Solbyrd are basically their own team, etc. Just brute force with summon team until a character you like shows up, then build around them.
How do I beat this? Im getting my ass kicked. Can't heal enough. I have these
>>1621603Oops forgot to attach the image
>>1621606With S4 Freda with Skill 6 you shouldn't really have any trouble surviving there; especially since at 195% it looks like you only have to deal with Cloud Radiation instead of Cloud Radiation IIIf you're dying super early into the fight, don't get greedy with trying to use the buff; just go straight to heal.If you're dying towards the end of the fight; just rush the boss down instead of trying to kill the blockers
>>1621606Consider running Hailin Street Nexus for the DoT reduction if that's fucking you up. Summon team should be nuking the boss down in ~10 seconds.
>>1621621>>1621625Put everything into VIT still diedI will come later after upgrading moreThis game is brutal
the memory trace system looks like cancer
>>1621648It looked like it was going to be cancer, then after doing a few runs and looking at the free SSR ones they give compared to the CN SSR ones even after ~10 months, it felt like a huge nothingburger when even the meta loadouts with perfect best-in-slot memory traces use freebie memory traces (sometimes multiple of them)The actual cancer is trying to minmax the roguelike-runs
>>1621658ok i will try it for now because i luckshitted the targeted cutie in my first 10 pull
Of course only like 11 hours until the event is over gotta grind whole night
>>1621719good luck anon
Should I roll for scarlet? how good is the windteam?
>>1621778>>1621346no clue but heard you need this girl cause they are kinda weak so you want more pure healing to compensate
>>1621778>>1619724Only pull if you like her or you want to get high scores on upcoming boss. She's the meta wind DPS for the foreseeable future but she's stuck on 5* friends until Elpis while other teams get showered in allies.
Anyone pulling scarlett or saving for future characters? I've a couple pulls saved up. Any future characters worth considering?
bros why is my nbr sister stealing my yandere girlfriend?
>can basically pull anyone into a pitthis chick is kinda fun, I just wish we had a stay mechanics like traditional RTS so I could just plant her in front of a pit and see her go off.
wow what a bitch
all this lore confuses me.
>>1621606what's your engraving level? I beat at around A25 it with cen ying, luke, freda and lorelleyou need to get the detox domain skill from nexus
Is there any female only team?
>>1622686Quite a few actuallyWind; Lorelle, Scarlett, Azusa, healerFreeze; Sambheka, Ivana, Begonia/Lorelle, HealerCorrosion; depending on whether you're willing to give a trap a pass or not; Lorelle, Caroline, Gina, Healer or Lorelle, Gina, Sephonis, HealerElectrocution teams later with Skylar, Uni, Jean, Healer; you could probably also cope with something like Lorelle, Sambheka, Lydia, Healer right now but with the understanding that basically the entire team besides the healer is going to be replaced in the next few months from this team
>>1622705>Electrocution teams later with Skylar, Uni, Jean, HealerThanks then I will go with this because Jean and Tishi are really hot
Is there an all male team?
>>1622755No because we don't have a male healer yet
>>1621648a day late but it's genuinely the best "Equipment" system I have seen in a gacha system lately.
Do these need to be 3 separate leaders, or can I just run the same square or triangle unit 3 times?I'm unsure because I had 3 separate diamond units to use but I don't have 3 separate of the other classes
we did it
>>1622794now give me fucking stamina so I can s5 all this stuff
>>1622790Separate, anon.Should be easily doable as long as you have 60 for supports and as low as S2 for the next step after that which is A25
>>1622790>>1622797wait how do you not have enough? Are you just not rolling at all?
>>1622797Ah okay, I didn't realize it was doable at lower seeds. That makes it easier>>1622799I do have enough, I just wasn't sure because I haven't invested much into many characters yet, just a select few. So that means I can just use Yuqi and Tian for my other 2 squares, but I'm not sure who for my third triangle. Maybe the twins or Lydia?
>>1622777Bro your Caroline?
>>1622810Sorry I keep forgetting since I'm using him as a cocksleeve, I consider him an honorary femaleI don't think his healing is anywhere near enough to solo sustain, especially when the two best tanks are also female which you won't have access to on an all-male team. Boreas is coming soon though.
>>1622807Yeah I'm not sure how RNG it is but definitely just go in with full 60s and it should be at least A25 at S2
>>1622820I'll give it a shot. All my level 60 traces are suited mostly for the physical summon team but I suppose they'll have to do for now
>>1622828The idea is just to get something to clear the phase quests, not as if you were gonna use them desu should just let it rip and manual the boss at the end
I still don't get echoning nexus.
>>1622794>>1622795Congratulations she looks pretty fun with her suped up bike honestly.
I got a copy of Scarlett before I managed to get a single Felicio. Such a waste but he's so cute and I wanted him ;_;
>>1622838What are you confused about anon?
>>1622665>LorelleThere you go. I don't have lorelle and access to her defense skill which is a gamechanger. A22 btw
>>1622937>A22 btwI feel like you should be a lot higher than that, are you capped on your support level?
>>1622938I will be honest. I have no idea wtf am I doing. This game is confusing as hell. I just run echo nexus auto on different characters to get the rewards on powering up. I don't know whats a support level even is. I just pulled a bunch of characters who don't go well with each other at all.
>>1622939Nexus is probably the most important part of the game because it's what determines your entire teams stats.Your stats are decided by your ascension level (The S), the level of all your traces, and what you end up rolling in the nexus run and successfully beating the boss at the endFocus on being able to get 20 stacks of inspiration at the start. You get given the inspire over time memory for free which is called happy hours, and then you should be using a second one which you can proc with your team by either borrowing it or having one of your own. They should be the highest level they can be, and you are somewhat gated by player level but it will tell you if you aren't able to max them yet.I believe 60 is at 33, 50 is a bit before that
>>1622939>>1622941You can get an idea of what the "high ranking" people are using for your leader here, or what the game itself recommends Like I said this is the most important content because it strengthens your entire team, it's basically your teams equipment - What characters do you have?
>>1622939Also I'll add to my vomit before I go to sleep, focus on the phase quests, you will go far just following those. They take a lot of time and you'll get a lot of exp to level up faster and get the restrictions lifted too - which gives you more access to roll currencies and other goodies.
missing more than I thought, guess I'll hold onto this till I roll on the traces more
Is it always a coinflip or is it guaranteed to be the rate up unit after you lose a coinflip?
>lose 50/50>game forcibly makes me gay>>1623094guaranteed
>>1622921should i be using the stat platform or the skill platform?how do i get a good score in the mode?
>>1622828I just tested it since I also have to do those missionsS2 with lvl 60 memories, full auto, max depth 10 is already A25 before the final boss
>>1622939>just run echo nexus autothat's your first mistake, auto is bad
>>1622755Cyros Boreas Hassel/Luke Baili Tusu technically works if you really want the homo team, but it's not very efficient.
>Try joint operation 250% with normal team but can't do it.>Die too quickly>Check YT guide for wtf's happening>They recommend cen ying self destruct cheese>Try the aforementioned guide but still can't do it>Cen ying doesn't stay alive long enough with resurrection to finish the boss off with her ultimate>Try a dozen times more but still can't do it>Fit in one more healer>Complete the operation first tryhuh ok
>>1623129Make sure all your memory traces are as high level as possibleSkill is priority I think so left on everything as far as I knowSet max depth to 12 no higher no lower
How's the new wind team? Anyone built it?
This game is surprisingly fun, at least in the beginning
>>1623459i didnt know banner order so ive got nothing for it otherwise i wouldve ill hope for a lightning unit soon™
>looks like a woman>male voice outta nowherei hate this game
>Accidentally pulled on the tracer banner and got SSR scarlett tracer but don't have her neither wanna pull for her
>>1623803I pull on them becasuse you get a 20% discount when they change the banners.so it costs 8 instead of 10.As for your situation, she's supposedly a great Boss Killer but also the lynch pin of the wind team. So you're probably not getting much use out of it unless you wanted to make a cope wind team for anti air I guess. Felico and Asuza are good units.
>>1623813Can something be made out of this? I already have a summoner team. How many teams does one even need in this game?
>>1623986I'd dump all the tickets that expire and hope to get her to build a wind team
>>1623986Those are plenty of units for a wind team, the question is do you want to invest the resources into a wind team if you're not interested in scarlet.>How many teams does one even need in this game?I guess it depends on how hard countered your win condition can be, like if your units have no air attacks like the fire team or are immune to shock or something and electrocution is your dps.Wind is good at anti air and attack speed. I wouldn't really worry about it untill you've got your first team online then, maybe wait for a character you like to show up, roll for them and build a team about them, instead of trying to make a memory trace work you don't exactly care for.
>>1623986NoHonestly having 2 is very nice, but you can ungabunga with 1 though that requires you to use meta instead of just making a team you like
>>1623986lanlan is very cute and scarlett is very sexy
>>1624058>You can unga bunga with one teamDamn. How do the devs make any money then? >>1624025Also what should be the priority to spend the extra stamina tickets on? They will be expiring soon
>>1623803i rolled it too lmao i cant miss the 20% first roll discount oh well
>>1624183The same every game does; the battlepass from all the casualfags + everyone who just rolls on whatever regardless of whether it's meta or notIf you mean the exp foods, phase 5 / skill 8 on anyone you're planning to use longterm since you need it for the phase quest anyways.
>got scarlet>not looking forward to dumping all that stamina making team 2ughhhhhh
how are you fellas getting S-ranks? I went to depth 14 and still only got an A rank.
>>1624330Stat bonus are capped at depth 12 so you there is really no point to go further. If you have problem getting S in Phantasm Realm, try the next Echo. The later unlocked Echo gives you more stat.If you are S5, you should be getting S rank easily. Also, are you building Traces and illuminating correctly? Traces should come in 2x stat set, like 2 Atk 2 Mst 2 Vit/Def. Having more than 3 main stats dilute your stat increase pool. In order to get the most stat increase, you have to illuminate the traces first. Always pick Illumate over trace awakening in the early. Fully illuminate gives like 300 stats at once if you do it correctly.
>>1624359Thank you. I'll try implementing these ideas in my next runs. I didn't know it about the depth greater than 12 being unnecessary.
>>1624330upgrade the leader thing this was L2 then get good luck i dunno i got this one auto
>>1624330surely you have better leaders than this schmuck anon
>Try to go for the rate up memory trace>Lose 50/50Well. At least I've learned you can lose on that banner
>>1624714At least now you're guaranteed on the next SSR memory. The current rate up one isn't that good anyways
>top engravings im missing 4 or 5 of the SSRs nowits so over!!!!!!
>24 days until the memory trace banner goes awayman I need to build up my SR collection but I can't risk getting the featured one
>>1624728It carries over? That's good Which character and trace are up next?
>>1624771If you're ignoring Baili Tusu who is the second half of the event; then we should have a one week banner for one of the characters who is already in the standard pool. CN had Longqing, but we probably can't trust banners of old characters; since CN had a Ivana banner for a week before their Cen Ying event/banner started whereas we had Lorelei simultaneous with Cen Ying event.As for the new character after that however, it should be Skylar. Lightning unit who reduces enemies' lightning/water res by a lot, 30% lightning + 10% water (45% lightning + 15% water if you get 1 dupe of her) and people seem to pair her a lot with Jean since Jean also has lightning res reduction and then also gives enemies passive regular damage resistance reduction based on how much you're reducing their lightning res by.The trace that releases with her seems to have pretty basic passives, but the main skill on it increases attack and crit damage everytime you trigger an elemental reaction
>>1624798I'm unsure about Baili. I like his design and would like to pull for husbandos, but so far I haven't really been vibing with his kit in event trials I've played
>>1624821Baili is exclusively for fire team. If you want to do Cyros Thea Baili then go for him. Otherwise he's not worth it.>>1624750Then pull on standard memory trace banner.
got to this i have cen ying with one imprint im guessing i should get a dupe with this like luke lorelle or lq
>>1624874Cyros is pretty good DESU, you'll be waiting until Uni if you don't want to selector him and want someone to break shields.
>>1624842I don't have Cyros but I was thinking of picking him up when I hit the free selector at 300 pulls. Either him or Luke S1. I imagine getting an extra unit is probably preferable but Luke having only 4 skill uses feels kinda lame desu
When is Boreas coming bros... I can't wait..Also show y'all stash
>>1624978He's probably 2nd half of next patch, but they might change it up for global.
>>1624842the standard has its own pity, also it'd be a waste to pull for standard when you can also get them on the limited banner
>>1624978I have a full summon/phy team so I'm just using the limited pulls for now
>>162497852k and 41 ticketsSkylarsexUnisexAnd Jeansex by proxy
>>1625162>>1625113Bruh how did yall save that much?? How long you guys been playing for? Also f2p or bp/monthly buyer? Personally playing since 21st Nov
>>1625197Day 1 f2p. I'd have saved a bit more but I rolled for Cen Ying and had to pity an off-banner first iirc
>>1624937 i suppose thats good but its annoying he cant attack air
What caused my terminal to downlevel to like level 4.95% and lose my level 5 buffs?
>>1625355like it was at 5 before, what changed?
>>1625197>how did yall save that much?by not pulling much, see I only did 83 pullsstarted playing the 15th, completely f2p
Well this is going to take some time
>>1625595>wanted to level up scarlett and friends>saw thisI guess I'll just keep leveling my summoner fucks.
>>1625606I wanted to start working on my corrosion team but yeah, back to focusing on Luke and Cen Ying I go. At least Lorelle is used on both teams so I can have her as one of the three
>>1625595I'm really considering just leaving these alone since I plan to roll for Skylar in like 2 weeks or whatever it is
>>1625628it's progress towards the memory tracer you should not ignore them
>>1625632I think I have most of the really good SSR ones already (also Warm Winter off-screen that I haven't leveled yet).My Corrosion team can use Lorelle as lead + Born From Ashes for 20 Inspire stacks. Karma, Emptiness, Behind the Curtains, and Memories of the Past (though I can't get TERM high enough to actually make use of it yet).Electrocution team will eventually use Born From Ashes + Remaining Friends for 20 Inspire stacks, and then My Vision is Clear, Karma, and Emptiness. Or swap one of them in for Warm Winter.
Midas is at least a year late no point in saving till then. What are some good units to pull before him?
>>1625660Depends on what 3 teams you want (you need 3 for the end game).Wind (we are here): Scarlett, ElpisElectrocution: Skylar, Uni, JeanFeng Hypercarry: Feng (duh), BoreasCorrosion: Leilani, SolbyrdFire: Baili Tusu, TheaBoreas, Elpis, and arguably Titia (unless your 3 teams are specifically Physical Corrosion Wind) are all basically mandatory for their support capabilities.
>>1625718Is skylar absolutely necessary for electrocution team? I've pity saved for Boreas don't wanna pull for her but also interested in Uni and Jean team
>>1625835She's really good since she shreds their electric resistance (which means more damage). But you could grab her on a rerun later since Uni + Jean are a few patches after. Only real reason to pull now is to have the fully optimized team as soon as they drop or if you really like Kylin.
Is the new event memory trace worth investing into?
>>1626019If you want to equip it to your director for its statline sure, if not no.
I just realized you can click on those (I thought the red dot was permanent to bait you to buy the pass lol)my progress will skyrocket
level up your bonds, don't get teablocked like me
i still don't get nexus. sometimes i get a 29 sometimes i get a25 what gives?
>>1628294Starting stats depend on Ascension stage of the character, and the Memory Traces you bring. If you bring a low character or a bad friend support your stats are gonna be a lot lower.Any stats added above 1000 get a 50% penalty so if you're picking those stats your stat gain is gonna be awful.
>>1628294Run all SSR memory traces unless you're doing Life Anthem or something similar. Assist trace should ideally be one with dupes. Prioritize stats/illumination when possible. Make sure to rush to depth 12, no reason to go higher.
finally a good run
>>1628310>>1628294Stat above 1000 give double the points when calculating engraving rating. You get less power but it doesn't affect your final score
what's the next ssr trace we're getting?
>>1628717This one >>1624798
can't see shit
Whats the skill that gives you poison immunity?For that month long boss
>>1629398one of the nexus skills, hailin something
AHHH MESUGAKI
What SRR memory trace should I get boys?
>>1629918Depends on what you already have, and what element you're using / planning to use in the future
>>1629923>SSR tracesBorn from the ashes>6* Echo mancersCen YingMo>PlansProbably to try and pull UNI and the other elemental reaction Units and turn the field into no mans land.I've still got my 6* selector torn between cyros for the fire zones he can drop or luke for a semi summon team with luke and cen.
>>1629918I've been sitting on this because I only have one team
>>1629966Physical gets most of their important traces for free (Beneath the Deception and Karma) and you also got Born from Ashes. You really don't need anything more for this. You could get Bad Soil Bloom for the other 10 Inspire stacks you need; but Happy Hours is amazing for an SR already and gives 10 Inspire as well.If you're going any type of Fire reaction; Dusk Radiance is important.Lightchaser, Emptiness, Double Attraction are just generically useful regardless of team.If you're going for Uni though, My Vision is Clear is extremely important. But Uni is a few months away, and you have almost zero SSR traces so it seems like a waste to use a selector on something for her already
>Lost 50/50 on Baili to get S2 LukeHmm. I kinda want to get the fire husbandos but I feel like I should save this guaranteed
>>1632179I used my selector on the female healer instead of actually creating a stable team, just fuck my shit up.
starting to get bored, I only have one team and it's donealso the dice game is pretty shit and tiring
>>1632693these games are always so much fun in the beginning when you build everything and then clear content but yeah once you reach the repetitive stage its very boringguess future events will become even more boring, i can pretty much full auto this one except for the boss
>>1632693>also the dice game is pretty shit and tiringHonestly this; the previous Cen Ying event was more annoying to get started, but was way better after that, all you had to do was the a 2-second boss fight every day. Though honestly they probably should have gotten rid of even that
>>1632693yea its excessive with so many fights at least you can skip them after you win but then you end up with like 80 dice lmao
>>1632693Most gacha games end up being 5 minute login simulators after you catch up anyway desu
Which of these is most worth to level?
>>1632901no clue im doing the left one but eventually the cost scales so much youll sorta level them evenly
>>1632693How do you know when your team is "done"
>>1633010when you're stuck at S5 and skills are lvl 9
wind feels a bit underwhelming...
So you really do need 3 teams raised (if you want to tryhard)
>>1634184Why? Is 250% that difficult?
>>1634336Was only able to test 200% since I need to wait for tomorrow for more attempts so I can clear 200% on a real run to unlock 250%; but it's just a huge HP sponge. Even with Lorelle + Freda + Cen Ying + Luke with double-stacking Phys/Summon buffs and going turbo aggression with spamming Freda's buff even if her old buff didn't run out (to stack Inspire faster); I still took I want to say ~75-80 seconds to kill 200%. And I think that's pretty much the most meta team in the game currently, unless Scarlett + Azusa beats it out in single-target damageAnd if we follow the pattern; 250% will have more than double the HP at least (which matches with high score rewards, killing 200% in ~75 seconds only gives ~85k points and you need to hit ~150k to get max rewards), which also doesn't take into consideration whatever special buff the boss will unlock on 250%. So even what is probably the most meta team or second most meta team in the game currently won't be able to beat it in a single team and needs two teams (unless you have dupes or went crazy with S6s + Skill 12s). Any team that's less meta than that should be prepared to have to use two teams at the absolute minimum and possibly three teams.
Today I did echoning nexus on auto and the fucking bot and higher engraving than I usually do.
okay yeah 250% is a gigantic HP sponge but at least they dont lock currency behind it
Looks like we're getting Longqing standard banner Dec 19-Jan 2So I guess there's a good chance we get a break week after the event
Managed to get 116347 on 250%. I almost solo cleared it with fire team + Begonia (borrowed a Mo for the benchwarmer passive). I might get a faster score if I use summon team first next time. I'll probably mess around with a Life Anthem Hassel set up at some point and see if that clears faster, but I'm a bit doubtful it'll clear fast without Kylin attack buff.
i feel ready
Skylar banner confirmed to be on 12/26, so thankfully they removed the dead week
Alright for all 3 people who still read hereSkylar - Pull: Yes if Electrocute team, No if notSkylar is a debuffer for the electrocute team (Uni+Jean primarily). If you plan on pulling that team, Skylar will make them much better. Otherwise she's not a worthwhile pick up and you're better off waiting for a rerun if you're pressed for pulls. Keep in mind that Skylar needs Uni+Jean or similar, but they don't NEED her to do their job. She's a complete character at S0, S1 makes her a slightly better debuffer and S3 gives her a DPS increase (which is barely needed).Boreas - Pull: Yes. There is no reason not to, other than you not wanting a male or something.Boreas is arguably the best support in the game not named Freda. Crit buff (guaranteed crits for summoned units), shield/heal, extra ice damage for your characters. At S1 he gets ice shred which is critical for hypercarry Feng teams. Pulling one of him is basically mandatory due to his sheer power and utility. Unsurprisingly, he's best with Feng, but he's good in any team (fire team: melt reaction; electrocute team: his ult gives them a nuke on their next basic; summon team: skill your main carry, watch everything melt under 100% crit). Pull S1 if you plan on running Feng, but it's not required. S3 is overkill for most situations. Again, I HIGHLY recommend pulling for him if you have no issues with the character; he makes every team better (for the record, the only other character I will glaze this hard meta wise is Elpis).Also the upcoming Memory Trace is pretty good provided you're running any elemental combo team. Very good and easy to activate effect, gives decent skills in Nexus, strong synergy with many future characters. Not a must pick up though, and worth skipping if your 3 teams are some combination of Corrosion/Wind/Summons/MonoFire/Feng.
Just started this a few days ago and it feels like they're throwing a thousand game modes at me. Is there a daily/weekly checklist anywhere so I don't miss anything while I'm getting used to it all?
>>1637057There's really just two things you need to worry about really;Skyrift Observation, which resets every 2 weeks. But only the Deep Observation resets, so a good chance you haven't even unlocked that yet.Joint Training which you have to go through the hassle of occupating all the nodes once (not sure if the nodes reset once evey 6 weeks or not), but there's weekly rewards there which you hit the boss once a week for.Nexus technically gives you daily attempts, but they stack up to 5 attempts and the first run is the longest after which you can start skipping fightsEverything else is just spending stamina on stuff you need
>>1637057Daily:>log in>go to SEED Dome, collect all, train your main team (if you 100%'d them, train whatever)>go do tea time (you can minmax pulls if you want>level up important memory traces (typically SSRs, a handful of SRs are good too)>go to echomancer, level up your main teams skills to max>level up your team leaders leader skillOnce you're done with the above (or can't do more):>level excess SSR/SR memory traces to max for pull currency>prefarm for rank ups for your charactersThis will keep you burning stamina for a long while, since you need 3 teams eventually.Consider doing Nexus daily, but you don't have to. At least get 3-5 done a week if possible (it takes about 10-15 minutes until you get to S ranks, then it's about 5 minutes).Weekly:>skyrift observation: Biweekly, do 2 levels per week for the weekly mission>joint training: You'll need 4 Square, Triangle, and Diamond echomancers going through Nexus to 100% this (left most is B rank, right most is high A rank), but you can work towards this over ~2-3 weeks. You can fight the boss in the middle, the more zones captured the higher % difficulty you can run (current max is 300%). This is a weekly boss.If an event is going on, do that after you do the daily shit. Event gives you pulls + a ton of level mats. Overall dailies is about 2-3 minutes, events add another 5 or so minutes, weekly shit takes another 5 minutes.
>>1637170>>1637088Thanks
>>1637170Not a new player exactly, but massively lost. This helps a lot, thanks.
>mfw when only phy/summon teamI have to basically start a 2nd team from scratch, so what are the chinese meta teams/reactions?
>>1638682The ones I've seen consistently agreed upon are;Electroconduct - Seems to be considered the most meta; but the important characters for it aren't out yet so you can't build it in advance; Skylar who is coming out in a few days is used a lot on this team as the debuffer, but she's not the carry so you won't see results right away from trying to make a team with her right nowCorrosion - You can actually raise this ahead of time since the important most important characters are Lorelei + Leilani, and then you toss in a healer and a 4thFeng turbocarry - Another one where the most important characters for it aren't even out yet; since it relies on Boreas (preferably with 1 dupe) and Feng. Boreas comes out in I think it's like 2ish weeks, but he's also just the support though he is useful on teams other than thisSome version of Fire / Fire-reaction
>IvanaFigure I'll talk about her for a second. If you don't like Feng for whatever reason and don't mind pulling 4 copies of her (or if you were just unlucky and pulled her on lost 50/50s), she can technically replace Feng. Main benefits of her over Feng is being Square-class (meaning she has better synergy with Cyros for Melt teams), MST scaling for synergy with any Life Anthem teams, and plenty of block breaking. Feng will still outdamage her at S1 no matter how many dupes you get of Ivana though (and no competition at S3+). If you don't have any copies of her yet, probably best to save and wait for a rerun after you've lost some 50/50s to her unless you really like her.
had to spend the expiring tickets and got skylar and the new memory trace, when does she get a team?
>used all my temp tickets>still skylar>>1636571Thanks for this anon.
got destroyed in s5-14, what team are you supposed to use?
I rolled skylar becasue I thought she was cute now I gotta figure out how to use her. I going to try Yuqi, Sambheka, Longqing/Freda and then skylar.
used my free expiring ones 60 for skylar ivanna skylar so worked out well
>>1641008I used the free trial Skylar, Freda, Lorelei, Pris. And then Luke for a couple seconds at the very end but he could be replaced by any DPS at all. IMO S5-13 was harder due to the gimmick on its first wave.>Wave 1Just DPSed the boss down in like ~40 seconds. I thought the the radioactive bombs would be a threat since they explode after taking damage a certain number of times, but even when they did explode they did almost zero damage>Wave 2Lorelei was able to face-tank the gravity bomb thing the boss did, but you can also easily just reposition your tank off the red squares. The enemies themselves are no threat, and Skylar + another electric can pretty much just stunlock the red orbs. If you bring Su Xiao / Luke you could also barrier against them but you probably shouldn't need it. The enemies on the left, you can spawn-camp after enemies on the right stop spawning, so they don't get the buff from crossing the line on the ground.>Boss on Wave 2The move the boss did when he spawned in instantly killed my Pris, so I swapped in Luke and used his barrier skill to block the buffing-laser, but since the boss died before I needed a second barrier you could easily just use the Terminal's barrier skill too or Su Xiao. Use the buildings on the boss when he's in range by to remove his buffs and stun him; he died there for me.
i am too stupid for d3 nexus
>>1642093bring a friends max cenying and have to nuke whatever boss at the end
>>1642234oh yeah that worked thank you
>>1642093I keep trying to get an S rank on Lab for both the D3 and to get level 5 difficulty challenge out of the way, but damn the executor keeps fucking my shit up at the end every time
Tried to give the story a chance but I am just not feeling it this chapter desu
>>1642400I read the prologue and the first chapter or two and then skipped the rest to spend my stamina. I've been too lazy to go back and give the rest a chance
I think I'm over this game at this point but I can't just drop it, FOMO and sunk cost are getting to me
>>1642795its okay for me cause the dailies are quick but it crashes a lot on emulator rip
>>1642858Why arent you using the PC client?
Oh, they really added another weekly chore?
>new joint training bossI don't even know what's the gimmick, I set it auto at 285% and won
>>1644005What's your team?
>>1644225cen ying, luke, lorelle and freda
>>1644349thank you bwo happy new year
Does the stat bonus from account engraving go beyond +100 Def/Term, or can I just slack after hitting SS
the next dude replaces freda in the summon team right?
>nexus memory challenge 5 missionanyone got it? can't unlock it since, they're shorter I find impossible to get S30 despite lvl 70 traces
>>1645519I managed to unlock it for Haishin, but it's also probably the hardest of the three by far. Not sure if it's now easier to hit S30 with that new mechanic they just unlocked with the new mechanic or if that doesn't affect engraving rating
>>1645519I can't get either of these, despite having an S6 Echomancer and full 70 traces
>>1646387The one on the right isn't too hard, but the left one is pretty obnoxious (ironically more from needing an S30 from that location to even unlock difficulty 5)
>>1646785I can make it through the whole nexus on D-3 but then I end up choking against the last boss, and then I just don't feel like trying to fight it again. I imagine that's probably why I can't get S30
>>1647104It's best to do it on a strong character and against one of the ones with a weak final boss and iirc the third mission that unlocks after reaching D3 then asks for D5Going after difficulty 12 doesn't give higher stat growths though, just a couple extra skill points if you beat the final boss and it's not even that many iirc I got like 100 extra skill points so I got like 4100 instead of 4000. The reason it's so hard to get S30 to unlock the 5th challenge on Pheomena is that those ones are early-game Nexus zones so the stat gain is lower/there are fewer nodes. S30 needs like perfect RNG, with S6 and lvl 70 memory traces getting A28 is easy, and A29 needs a bit of luck but S30 is crazy. Meanwhile on the other rightside Nexus nodes getting S31/S32 is the norm.Personally I just gave up and am giving up that single 1x roll
Ey yo this look kinda fire fr
>need to wait until march to have a good electro teamI wish they rotated banners a bit faster
I've been playing since the start of this game and I still don't fucking understand echoing nexus ratings at all.feels like I'm rolling dice on if I get an engraving >30.I liked the story atleast.
>>1648459>Stats from 1-1000 give +1 point each to your rating>Stats from 1001-1280 give +2 point each to your rating>Getting extra passives adds points to rating (I didn't pay attention to whether specific passives are better are point-bloating or not)But there is a ton of RNG involved. Getting above 30 is super easy on the newer Nexus maps, but RNG as fuck on the older ones>Half of the stat gain chances give you a range of stats, +30-60 Vit for example>The big stat gain chances that often give +100-300 in a stat have RNG chance to lighten and get extra stats based on your Memory Traces equipped (not to mention that it's a random choice of 3 stats which may screw you over especially later in the run)>The Memory Trace main skills you get as choices to unlock are random>The shittier sub-passives you can unlock are even more random but usually way less impactful at least>You can get fucked over and get Memory Traces you already maxed as an option which then gives you a tiny fraction of the benefit
its over i didnt login for a week now...
barely managed 250%, terminal was at 1% hp
>>1648909the same will happen to me, I just don't enjoy the weekly content and am only in it for the story. They added club events and a new wave battle mode but I'm not interested in either.>>1648485Thanks anon.
>>1649179Hoping they add a sweep option to the weekly Wave-survival mode; it's really easy on normal mode but you need to do 2 runs to get full rewards for some reason, not sure why they didn't let you get full rewards with one full clear. The Escalation difficulty of it is actually hard and wants you to manually do it, but it's only once every 3-4 weeks it looks like so that's fine
Is anyone else having problems with 5-8 or am I just retarded
>>1649509have you done the new nexus to get the leader skill that helps with that world?
>>1649509I think that was the one where they spawn in two elites behind you who will one-shot the terminal unless you're playing manually to burst them down/shield the terminal
I should't have rolled for skylar and boreas they ate my rolls.
holy shit i lost 3 coinflips in a row
>>1650016That's a 12.5% chance. My condolences anon that's really shitty luck.
>>1650041I have also lost 3 coinflips in wuwa in a row...As long as I have currency (30k x particle) I will keep playing
>lost the 50/50>113 rolls to get boreasfuck
>>1649572See, I am retarded because for some reason I thought I couldn't do that route yet. I just did it now and was able to deal with it much easier >>1649893It was the one with the crimson queen and her duke, I was having trouble bursting him down before she restored his health but after doing the right nexus I was able to beat them easily
>>1649179>and am only in it for the story.Is the story even that good/interesting?
>>1650434I don't care for the events.The museum event telling me about a long dead sailor was not interesting, Bali shadow Moses experience was decent, but I didn't read anything past that and found the Christmas board game dull.I think the main story has enough intrigue that if you care about it, it's good to follow.>Into the unkownHuman experimentation, Shadow organization, Schizo in red>No one listeningDu wang crashes out, more human experimentation, furry guy does some intrigue or something >Bad karmaMORE HUMAN EXPERIMENTATION, evil schizo gets trolled by an even bigger Schizo In green, red schizo appears,>The UndergrownMore human experimentation but this time by people other than lakoutra, interdimensional church that drains planets is around and maybe caused the wormholes, natural seed demigod wakes up and is probably going to nuke two war-torn countries>Non-Voluntary SurvivorA story about a neet and her brother who is protective, devolves into human experimentation, green schizo fucks someone over again, he just likes fucking with people, RED has an inside man, Furry guy rescues autistic neets only friend and maybe the biggest plot twist is The guy repairing the AC unit is the Author of Estelle witch of the stars.I think they're spinning enough plates and have set up enough antagonists that it's interesting you follow and pay attention, but they kinda dump a lot of sci-fi shit on you at the start so I don't blame people for not being interested, it seems like pretty much everyone is a double agent with a hidden motive and schizos are doomed to fucked over by bigger schizos constantly.
I tested boreas a bit in the guild boss and I get worse score in the summoner teammaybe I need different traces...
>>1651233Personally used him on my Explosion team since he gives extra buffs to water/lightning/ice (though I might try again with borrowing those weird twin furry things for electrocution), and then just kept Freda on my summoner team
I'm after Boreas' seed too if you know what I mean
Which one is better for atk/overall? Using yuqi for electrocute btw
>>1650695Lowkey wish I had your same enthusiasm for the story. I don't think it's bad or anything, it just hasn't really grabbed me. I AM curious about that evil little kid though
>>1652731left probably does more dmg but it's squishieralso use another def trace instead of trm
>>1652784It largely stems from just the ridiculous levels of obfuscation and schizoidism some characters display. This guy talks weird the second you meet him, so you ignore him he's really hamming it all up talks like a total autist, turns out the person he was calling a schizo was a schizo the entire time.He calls me out on it and I think yea writers read me well, I thought this guy was just a retard the entire time and didn't trust him over the actual schizo, then in the end turns out they were both schizos. There's other stuff like The director's mentor having a dark past, The directors' ability to use his weird X-men machine that lets him go to other universes almost to find echomancers or something? I don't really get much of the multiverse time travel stuff they were shilling, I don't think I'm even meant to.I also don't read all the lore entries, I keep telling myself I will, but I don't bother, I'm appreciative they've gone to so much effort. It's definitely just the comically evil or unhinged people that keep me interested, you could drown in all the intrigue they're trying to throw at you, but it's so much I don't really notice it any more.
Does this do anything?
>>1653518Might affect the very next enemy battle? Otherwise didn't seem to do anything
How to make Yuqi tankier? He like literally dies in any content worth doing. Are there any upcoming good 6* tanks? My current stats are 480 VIT, 800 DEF, 1400 ATK, 1300 MST, 770 TRM
>>1655734>480 VitFound your problem
>>1655734you need more vit
Back again with the next set of characters.Kylin - Pull: No, only if you like men.Kylin is a lightning tank. He can make a lot of barriers, and his ultimate is kind of funny. That's about it. His skill uses are absurdly low at base, he's a dual element unit (with all the good and bad that comes with), and his role is mostly irrelevant. He's a good safety net if you want it, but there are much better options coming up. Only pull if you're convinced that he gets a buff in the future or are really desperate for playable males. Even then, you're probably better waiting for a rerun banner or getting him off rate.Feng - YesPull Feng. Unless you hate her. Pull Feng anyways. Having issues with a stage? Pull Feng. Want to see enormous numbers shat onto the screen? Pull Feng. Hate airborne enemies? Pull Feng. Want a better option for Melt teams? Pull Feng. Have Boreas? Definitely pull Feng. She is the best character in the game by far, and the only things competing with her are core teams with multiple members. Her only real weakness is ice only really has melt going for it for reactions (and that's not even a weakness, I'm reaching). Dupes only make her even more insane if you got the spare pulls. Consider grabbing a Boreas dupe if you want her to nuke even harder. Only skip if you're saving for high dupe corrosion team and need the pulls, since there isn't THAT much content that requires this level of firepower outside of wanting high scores on leaderboards.New memory trace - Good for Feng. Pull if you pull Feng. Good for any team where the main damage comes from ice, which is mainly Feng teams. Maybe if you invested into Ivanna hard.
I am way too bad at this gameCant clear skyrift observation 10 or 250% of the current event boss
>>1656304The current Skyrift Observation 10 is tough if you don't have Ivana I think, I didn't have too much issue with 250% of the event boss though
