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Played through the latest zzz chapter. It was kino and enjoyable for me.
>>1636608You're mentally 13
>>1636613If you are talking about yourself then yes I agree. Throwing a tentrum at me because I enjoyed a PvE game I'd definitely from a 13 year old
why did every single hoyotranny game die after shitting out femorrhoid flops?
>>1636608Last fight in zzz against bringus was kino
>>1636608Please don't leave...
>>1636627I also play HSR tho since you can auto it. I also play GFL2, wuwa and ZZZ. That being said with AP, Endfield and Ananta I may look to drop one of the game on my list.
>>1636608when is zzz releasing for the switch? i wanna play it, but not on phone or pci heard they had plans for switch release, so i didnt install it when it releasedalso, what happened to this game? astaweave haven or petit planet?
It seems ZZZ is now doing LGBT content? Is it time to report the game to the CCP? Yurifags seem to be very happy.
>>1636622i am confusedif waifus dont sell and worms dowhy do i get six new waifus for every worm you get does mihoyo not have access to exclusive r/gachagaming sales data and genuinely not know worms sell better?are they intentionally tanking the company for some reason?is the company run by deranged man hating trannies that would rather take a revenue loss than give the players the worms they so desperately crave?
>>1636633I have never heard zzz releasing on a switchAsta weave is still in development >>1636634Sounds like your usual twitter shipper where 2 girls being friendly=lesbianI am not aware of any canon Yuri couples
>>1636605Last month's memechart>>1625412
>>1636644>no pretty colors or even picsNo wonder that shit died
Oh no, he is spreading to China
>>1636637From what I heard (I don't play ZZZ) Miyabi calls you her fiancee and she does that to whichever protagonist you picked, with the male one having a slightly better scene. I still hope they report it and get it censored, LGBT shit does not belong in video games, or any other mass media entertainment for that matter.
>>1636651>LGBT shit does not belong in video games, or any other mass media entertainment for that matter.Anon in comrades, we lost that one.
>>1636647Chinks will say this then act surprised gacha companies want to add men to their gamesHow about you stop being so fucking gay? The way I see it, marketing people that push for mixed toilets noticed their majority "straight" audience can't shut up about men, and they're giving you exactly what you want.Maybe try liking girls for a change?
>>1636651>I like ML>no, not like thatleast hypocritical drama thread poster
>>1636673I-it's not gay because he's literally me!
>>1636651>he says this when hoyo has been known for doing gayshit since hi3No i dont care if you think its not explicitly blatant, not when the troons that latch onto their games outnumber the amount of straight males
>>1636673Guys want cool male characters. Deal with it, homo.
>>1636678Good thing there's no actual cool guy in gacha because they are all fags
>>1636675The whole point of "ML" is that the protagonist is the player self-insert and substitute.I thought you female protagonist loving autogynephiles like to pretend you don't self-insert as the girl as only see the female protagonist as yet another waifu?
>>1636678Yeah I thought girls were icky too when I was 12. You're a grown ass man, it's time to stop
>>1636684>The whole point of "ML" is *headcanon*Did I hallucinate the female protagonist option in FGO? Do female characters stop liking their Master if you pick it?
If only Path To Nowhere dev (AISNO) din't chucking the male fanbase to appease w*men. This thread will never exist (replace with genshin drama).
>>1636687Female MC option in FGO exists for women and autogynephiles to have a character to self-insert as while they romance their favorite characters, yes. FGO is also a Japanese game and not a Chinese one and as such is allowed to openly display homosexual relationships.
Atleast we can laughing together on genshin or mihoyo drama
>>1636689Yep. Japanese game is full faggotry (Yuri shit, Yaoishit and oto-kono-ko-shit)
>>1636689Then stop using terms you don't agree with, and pick something that represents your tastes betterI suggest renaming "ML" to "chinky flop"
>>1636693Chinky flop are better than nips flop
>>1636693ML is literally a Chinese term, LARPer. They're the ones who invented it and the ones who largely use it. It wasn't FGO who invented the term, it was specifically the Chinese FGO fandom. Have you ever seen a Japanese use the term?
>>1636696Why are you stealing opinions you don't agree with from a chinese FGO fandom? Is making your own buzzword that better represents what you want really that hard?
>>1636700You are aware the Chinese "ML community" hates the idea of female protagonists and yuri because it attracts yurifags, lesbians, ans trannies, right? If anything, my views are more aligned with people who created and popularized the term than yours, and I am certain they would side with me, a straight male self-inserter, than you, who is either a straight male shipper or trans (autogynephilic) self-inserter (for some reason you refuse to clarify which one is it).
>>1636702Then don't play a trans game like FGO?Why are you chinks so stupid
>>1636704Heh. A member of the LGBT community is complaining about straight people invading and trying to subvert her games. Now you know how it feels, huh?
>>1636688>papergames substhat game was never for men
>>1636705
>>1636706It was, anon. It's the game that was belong to male fanbase until Fujofags and lesbiantard arrives ruining that game
>>1636713Well, at least you're not doing the "how do you so fellow straight men" shtick and openly admit you're LGBT. That's some refreshing honesty from you.
>>1636717Anon i played that game for a while(one year) that game has been wanking that butch dyke zoya since day one.
>>1636717A couple girls asking for female MC was all that was needed to get her added. It's impossible for Infold Games to pander towards men because the company is full of women.
>>1636717>males in gacha>hideous otome game art style>made by a dev that does dress up games for little girlsIs this a game for men?
Gacha aimed at men are oversaturated and will keep on failing
>>1636651>From what I heard (I don't play ZZZ) Miyabi calls you her fiancee and she does that to whichever protagonist you pickedno, it's the MC who calls Miyabi their fiancéebut if you play Wise you can say she's your fiancée, but if you play Belle, you just say she's fiancée to your family (Wise)it's the other way around: Mihoyo denied the Yuri
>>1636734based
>>1636734Don't ruin my narrative.
>>1636717It was mixed toilet from the beginning. It had some nice sluts, mainly that Bai Yi bitch, but it was never a game explicitly for men.>>1636734What is this discussion about exactly?
>>1636722>butch dykeDon't misread edgy tomboy girl as the butch dyke, but i empathize with you that this type of girl prone to attracting fujofag and lesbiantard unless that girl are only for (you)>>1636730It was their first attempt to pander male fanbase but it fails completely
>>1636738>but it was never a game explicitly for menBack then, the ML movement and their shenanigans din't exist yet, as CN male fanbase are don't mind with mixed toilet game yet.
>>1636647>Genshin ImpactThis is unironically one of these things that would make sense from every angle. The series got a lot of traction in china during Crossbell-Erebonia era, its all part of the reason CLE does PC Asia releases long before NISA makes a move on the english side of things. Both genshin and hsr have obviously borrowed from the series in a few places
>>1636751Yeah I'm aware. What I meant is that it wasn't a game with a male MC with only girls in the gacha.
>>1636740>tried to copy AK>fails miserablyEvery single time.
With all this talk about male only MC, are there even any upcoming gacha that are confirmed to only have male MC and no female option at all?
>>1636768Rememento just came out and it's HSR clone with only male MCHonor of Kings: World seems to only have a male MC, same for Dungeon&Fighter: ARADAzur Promilia MC status is unknown but if they don't remove female MC at this point game is deadEvery other upcoming game I know either hasn't revealed MC status yet or it has both gender options
>>1636780>RemementoWhat is that game anon
>>1636783https://rememento.com/its only in korean and still has males in the gacha.
>>1636780There's also BREAKERS but that one looks more like a classic JRPG.None of these seem to only have girls in the gacha either. We'll see if Azur Promilia delivers.
>>1636785>Take one of the two pills anon.>No FeMC but mixed toilet>No male but FeMC are added.The future is grimm anon
>>1636780>Azur Promilia MC status is unknown but if they don't remove female MC at this point game is deadlolMeanwhile in reality
Forgot some:Lost Sword which seems to have a canon male MC, but it has like one other playable male character for some reason.Mongil: Star Dive has only shown girls so far, but in an interesting case has both male and female MC in the storyAnd as I've mentioned before, Project RX, Project C and Heaven Hells all only have girls but their MC status is currently unknown.
>>1636780>chink twink mclmao
Genshin is BACK!
>>1636823lol
>>1636734>no, it's the MC who calls Miyabi their fiancéeand her response?
>>1636823>Two trash 4* males>Five waifusThe schizo's not going to like this...
>>1636605This is technically the gacha drama thread #8.And also I suppose the azur promilia thread was the gacha drama thread #0.Funny how this has been evolving so fast.
>>1636823how can these bewhy are all the worms 4 starswhere is wormpitanoi keep hearing waifus do dont sell so whats with all the waifus
>>1636832there's a separate Azur Promilia thread now
>>1636734Post it in Chinese
>>1636832turn out gacha drama was pretty interesting
>>1636851Roasting homeless mlfags is fun because they have no comebacks.
>shitlali and the archon will run together>banner doesn't last the whole patch unlike in the original leaki knew they were getting desperate for cash after all the femorrhoids flopped and killed the game but i didn't think they'd be this desperate kek
>>1636872+ hutao's skin + liyue reject bannerif this patch cant hit top 1 on appstore then its over
>>1636851It's not interesting, you're all mentally fucking ill and poor ESLs that can't afford actual entertainment. Especially the ones that spill into /vg/ and create schizo narratives about stuff that never happened out of boredom or try to stir shit with dramas that were resolved because you want to see people get mad for your own amusement.
>>1636873even if it does the game's gonna go back to flopping right afterpatches with 2 new 5*s might look good in the first half but every 2nd half will be deader than before. the nahida and hutroon rerun peaked at #23 lole
>>1636823one of these is literally just a Ys9 character, tone it down with the "inspirations" hoyo
>>1636877>paypiggie gets mad cause others shit on his favorite corpinteresting
>>1636877...so you give them the exact reaction they want?
>>1636622Explain this.
Good god another genshin drama post. Boring.
>>1636872but if waifus flop and kill their games why do they insist upon releasing waifus why do i get six new waifus for every worm you get if worms sell and waifus dont
The Chinese cultural export...
The future looks bright
>>1636823>5 waifus>2 homosNOO HOYO WHAT ARE YOU DOING DOESN'T YOUR DATA TELL YOU WAIFUS DON'T SELL WHY ARE YOU RELEASING MORE OF THEM???? DO THEY WANT TO FAIL I THOUGHT MEN SOLD MORE???
Worms are extinct even Genshin Impact, the most homosexual gacha game on the market knows it, enjoy your 4* worms lol
>>1636935If this strategy doesn't work and Genshin fails to increase revenue, what will be Mihoyo's next move? I doubt the next update will fail since there is the archon but the following ones considering that teaser do not promise anything good, except Skirk which according to the leaks will be towards the end of Natlan.
>>1636921>all mixed toiletIt's over for chink gachas
>>1636955>mixed toilet>look inside>1 male : 9 female raiolmao
>>1636952>what will be Mihoyo's next movemaybe start making good game againboth HSR and ZZZ are all style no substance
>>1636952It would be funny if they tried doing homos again only for their revenue to crater.
I don't care about Genshin Impact anymore but it's funny to see them try to get their base player back after the disaster that was Sumeru and all the implicit homo shit besides murdering Dehya by giving her the most disgusting kit in the game, ¿how could waifu player don't want run away forever of the game? then in fontaine they gave a worm the most broken kit in the game and made the female archon be his slave, to try months later to nerf him because he didn't even come close to the revenue records of raiden, ayaka, hutao, yelan , nahida etc. .Now Mauvika won't get a shit's worth of basic base player money like the past back as long as that worm exists.a worm that sold less than even eula in 1.X
>>1636977Just have a healer and Furina is slave to any DPS given her kit, despite this at C0 her pokemon are not bad against the right enemies. I'm curious to know how much revenue Neuv would have made if he had been released in the first year, Fontaine did not have the advantage of the covid buff and the game was already in its fourth year.
>>1636977as long as the devs themselves keep sabotaging female charas' kit and giving them censored outfit I dont care about dawei's roots
>>16369581 male too many
I don't care about that fag's roots either, fuck him, he took so much money from me to take care of the parasites and when he realized that the parasites didn't have money, he started to cry with his implicit message. anyone who wants to fall into that trap go ahead and come back but not me.
>>1636952it already failed. yearly revenue got cut in half >>1636872 it didn't work for yenless flop zeroed either
Who are you trying to fool, faggot? I have Furina C3, I took her precisely because she didn't work properly with my navia even with an area healer, she couldn't maximize her buff in one rotation, it's impossible for anyone other than the 3 Fontaine worms.and just so you know raiden was always sold retroactively even after COVID-19 and yet, ask Da Wei why he released reprise after reprise of waifu pairings like hutao/yelan, ayaka/shenhe and nilou/nahida, because worms don't they were able to meet quota of money from GI's splashy advertisements and events.
>1637020>tranny conveniently ignores >>1636888LMAO
>tranny thinks a femorrhoid flop who was gigashilled since CBT is representative of the game's average sales>tranny thinks 0 tiktok hours and 0 pokemon hours for the most broken, most shilled bitch is worth bragging about>ignoring the fact that sales have been declining despite releasing 7 gigameta femorrhoids in a rowyenless flop zeroed flopped so fucking hard they had to reboot it after only 5 months and even then it's still gonna go back to flopping anyway kek
Fresh drama here: Kurogames left all the new region stuff (Rinascita) in the beta and leakers datamined then released all of it.The wuthering waves community (including /wuwa/) is crying and shitting themselves about how DARE those leakers spoil kuro's big announcement stream and start violently seething if you post anything related to the new updateYou can find the CG leaks and dumps at: https://www.reddit.com/r/WutheringWavesLeaks/>RedditBite me
>>1637061wuwa's sheriffs and thread police are having a genuine melty now that people are discussing the game instead of seething about hoyohow did that general get so bad
>>1636634Yuri predates LGBT and your nigger existence
>>1637061>w*waLol, who cares about that game anyway?Also, this is only Kuro's fault. There's absolutely no reason for a beta to have anything else than the new characters and maybe events involving gameplay just to test they work properly.
>>1637103>Lol, who cares about that game anyway?Wuwa is one of the games with the most drama so it's a staple of a gacha drama thread. Also if you ever wanted to see a bunch of ESL seanigs crying then that general is right now the best place for it since that place is easily the biggest concentration of obnoxious ESL cunts in all of /vg/.
https://x.com/deweibsQuality drama reporter
And who the hell cares faggot? only a stupid brainless faggot goes there and opens a video that literally says spoiler and then complains that they leaked the story.
>>1637129>genshin genshin genshindramatranny can't escape the hoyo tourist allegations
>>1637129>Qualitythey were crying about wuwa having more female characters than males, and their shit doesnt even count as ESL, its MTL
>>1637129>incel incel incelso much for quality
>>1637092Yuriniggers != old yurienjoyers
You know with all this drama and backlash around mixed toilet gacha I wonder why devs who make mixed toilet gacha don't just separate the male and female characters into separate gachas and currency systems. Like, make it so there are two gacha currencies, and buying the currencies with gems or earning them in-game for free makes you receive an equal amount of both currencies. And there is always a male gacha and a female gacha coming out at the same time, with males and females being separate classes like the males being support and the females being DPS. That way the female and male characters would never compete with each other, and male players don't have to worry about losing currency they could have spent on female characters to male ones, and they won't get spooked by male characters in the female gacha because they can only roll females on it.
>>1636734>Mihoyo denied the YuriDid you forget how openly yuri Jane was? This song and dance is getting tiresome, Mihomo is constantly making fanbases fight each other.
>Not skipping all the dialogueSkipgods win again.
>>1636888waiting for that troon to bullshit his way that harumasa is the one hardcarrying the banner and mibibi sells poorly kek>>1637188>make it so there are two gacha currencies, and buying the currencies with gems or earning them in-game for free makes you receive an equal amount of both currenciesif this happens those chinks will make sure you get less money:pull ratio and lower your pulls income per month, both f2poor and low to non leviathan spenders losesi do like the idea of you can lock offrate SSRs to one gender only, i'm not going to get spooked by useless dudes from offrate pulls (thanks for 3 shiTyr in AG yostar) and the sisters aren't going to scream incel straightcel duracell or whatever random words they invented when their last 3 spooks are girls with thunder tits
>>1637188>>1637215just give every single gacha character two designs, a male and a female one, the way they already do for mcs, and problem fucking solvedif you want an all girls yurifest you can have it if you want a male mc + all girls harem you can have it if you want female mc + all boys you can have it if you want a sausagefest you can have it if you want to randomly mix and match depending on how you feel a characters personality feels like you can have it
>>1636608yeah think it was okay too.whatever I'll keep playing zzz.I made a post shitting on it in the last general with how they keep releasing whores and not going in depth. They should try a dormitory thing like gfl2 if it doesn't scare off the normies.
>>1637188that won't work because mixed toilets are by nature a scam where men pay more money so women and lgbt can get better service. making it 50/50 men and women would just make male players even more pissed.
>>1637061/gig/ used to praise people that dumped all leaks at once instead of drip-feeding. Imagine being more cucked than /gig/ lol
>>1637232>thisi pondered the same question, because mahjong souls supposedly (i haven't played it) has two gender pools in the gacha, one for male only banners and female only. Other gachas don't follow suit because they would clearly make less money. They saw the male player base as sunk cost idiots who will play regardless of what you shove into the game, and they're kinda right, while gays and women refuse to play games with "male gaze", as they always demand censorship. It's why mihoyo players are the true slurpers, they will subsidize the game for people who hate them. Heck zzz was supposed to be the "coomer game" and it got self-censored
>>1636921Can you post the Chinese text version, I wanna see the CN names. Also how tf is Guilongchao supposed to appeal to feminists? Watch like 5 seconds of gameplay and it's obvious the target audience is the same as Silksong's and others, they're males.About that extra no.3 game, I saw the PVs on Bilibili and it looks like it's still alive based on the comment activity. What's the problem? And what does Fart Window Man even mean?
>>1637061Cute and canon
>>1637188Because despite what you think the female to m*le ratio is unbalanced af most of the time so that won't work. Only reason why they force m*les for mixed toilet in the first is place despite being irrelevant is the same reason why forced lgbt pandering is a thing: pretending to be inclusive to minorities to appease them
>>1637280>Hi3 Aha gang collab>Wawa copy it patch laterNyes i'm nooticingg
>>1637276>the target audience is the same as Silksong'sDoesn't matter now, the game is in life support
>>1637304Holy shit I checked and it’s actually a dumpster fire right now. Frequent crashes, servers going down all the time, and then they drop a permanent Welkin card players think it's a desperate cash grab before they shut it all down, they're freaking out that it won’t even make it to Lunar New Year.What the fuck happened, how did it get this bad? Someone explain please.
>>1637309just ctrl f guilong in this thread https://arch.b4k.co/vmg/thread/1602303/#1607719
Genshin is really trying huh?
>>1637326MLchads won bigly
>>1636823>>1637326Ok dawei you win this time.
>>1637326how will loomtroons recover from this?
>>1637326It's ALL bait and switch.It's disgusting.
>>1637326This is the most important Natlan patch, no jokeIf this one flops, then it's fucking over for that region
https://finance.sina.cn/2023-10-11/detail-imzqtsii8659239.d.html
https://news.qq.com/rain/a/20241219A06LKG00>As the golden sign of miHoYo, "Genshin Impact" has passed its peak, and it can be seen from the operation of reducing the amount of purchases and shutting down a certain channel server.>And "Honkai: Star Rail" has not become the next "Genshin Impact".>According to public information, in the first half of 2024, the average monthly retention rate of "Honkai: Star Rail" is 4.5%, while the average monthly retention rate of "Arknights" is 5.4%.>This means that the former is even less loyal than the latter.>According to the research report of Bank of Communications International, from January to August 2024, miHoYo accounted for two of the top 10 mobile games in China in terms of turnover, and "Star Rail" ranked ninth, with a year-on-year decline of 13%; "Genshin Impact" ranked tenth, with a year-on-year decline of 52%.
>>1637365>"f-femorrhoid flops sell"kek
>>1637326Now come back 3 months later when she either gets shipbaited or fades into obscurity.
>>1637370>fades into obscurityAll of Natlan will fucking drop like a hard rock after the upcoming patch ends since there will be nothing else more of the region>new characters seem to be from other regions>genshin is already dropping more important lore while natlan's main lore will be finished next patch>ochkanatlan, the equivalent of the chasm, enkanomiya, sumeru desert and remuria; is already released>5.4 will be the last tribe which is Iansan tribe (lol)Seriously, what else will people look forward from Natlan after 5.3?
>>1637377Skirk
>>1637365>>This means that the former is even less loyal than the latter.whats really funny about this is that after a point, AK becomes an incredibly low-maintenance game, you really dont have to invest that much time into it, which isn't something I can say about any of hoyoshit titles, and they still have lower retention?Thats hilarious
>>1637378will flop harder than arletranny
>>1637378>Treats the whale as a pet>A whale so strong that Neuvillette couldn't beat solo>A full sovereign who is way above archons in powerSkirk coming out so early reeks of desperation.
>>1637385at what point did they retcon dragons to be above the archons? That sure as shit wasn't the case with Dvalin and Azhdaha
>>1637387Enkanomiya
>>1637387Fontaine is where they revealed that the gnosis was used to contain the defeated sovereign's power.Since sovereigns were the original, it's not much of a stretch to assume sovereigns > archons.Also the game literally calls Neuvillette the god of life which sounds way more important and powerful than god of water.
>>1637365>losing to pngslopkek
>>1637365>"Genshin Impact" ranked tenth, with a year-on-year decline of 52%.>year-on-year decline of 52%.Oof
>>1637412Yeah, it looks something like this >>1636872I wonder how will next year look like
[SAD NEWS] Infinity Nikki was reported to destroy multiple laptops with Intel CPU
As someone who used to lightly whale in Genshin and dropped it earlier this year after the summer event all I can say isI don't miss it. At all.Inazuma through pre-Sumeru was their peak that they'll never reach again. Raiden, Shenhe, and Yelan are all 10/10 pure sex goddesses. None of their characters designs since then have been even half as good.
>>1637220I had thought about it too but while there is some remote possibility of making this idea work in other parts of the world in China it is impossible, in fact players of one gender want games for only one gender because they don't want the game to attract other types of players in the community (females, shipping and other things you read about in this and past threads). Forget it, it is not worth racking your brains to solve a problem that cannot be solved, there are no conditions to do so, it is a lost cause from the start.
>>1637418The problem with Genshin is that it is too long a project, it was clear from the beginning that they would not be able to follow the initial direction and the great success that it had initially increased the expectations of Mihoyo too much, who over time made mistakes and did not realize the social situation in China. They should have aimed lower, a three-year project would have been better, while now we do not even know if 6.0 will be Snez or not.
>>1637421the roadmap trailer was a mistakemihoyo knows people would stop caring after snezhnaya so they will prolong it as much as they can
>>1637309Lots of women in the development team so they thought it would be a good idea to make women their target audience. Now that men are increasingly refusing to support these kinds of games there was no one to subsidize the women and the game quickly died.
Update on Girl's Frontline gitbox drama: things got so bad Sunborn decided to suspend executive producer of the game, and other employees will also be investigated. Seems like the giftbox incident has become the biggest obstacle to Girl's Frontline revival.
>>1637412that's what happens if you shit out femorrhoids >>1637393
>>1637430Context?
>>1637393but when Azhdaha was introduced they talked about it being like a pet and friend to Zhongli, the fuck?
>>1637438Shills got nothingHaters got goodies and merch
>>1637438>>1634802
Even at 3 years old it is too exaggerated that it will fail too quickly, someone here mentioned Arknights and its retention rate... the reason because Arknights remains the same is because it does not dare to make risky or drastic changes or change the status quo.Genshin Impact with Sumeru tried to change the status quo of these gacha games and thought that the parasites could maintain these games that have always been mainly a waifu collector, not content with that he tried to return to fontaine but returning to the male characters the ceiling for the strongest kits (right after having destroyed dehya), the result is that they lost their entire base base and their retention rate went downhill. Natlan's designs are all ugly and they have practically lost trust in the players. After watching the stream with the new characters and especially Skirk, I can only speculate that they are doing a soft reboot like ZZZ. I don't know if the Archon of Natlan will be able to save the region, but what I do know is that she will have less performance than the previous ones because she has one of the most horrendous kits i have ever seen in my life, as if it were practically sabotage
>>1637453dawei was ok with that kits btw
>>1636921All the same boring artstyle, I give up on the slop future.
What about ending genshin and creating two smaller games (or four) to cater to males females trannies etc?Is that the next step?
Da Wei is just the PR guy, in reality everything else is done by his developers while he is not even in Shanghai managing the situation.I'm not surprised that things like Dehya and Sigewinne are approved as well as Mauvika who is supposed to be an archon but that kit looks so catastrophic that when he is there at this point he can only agree and trust the genshin intellectual property impact for people to buy that disaster.
>>1637326If only she wore a rean leotard and not shorts under that skirt.
>>1637483Genshin didn't get so huge by pandering to X/Y/Z group, it blew up because the game was high quality.Instead of making 3 shit games like they're doing right now they should consolidate and make a single game that doesn't fucking suck.I don't even mind playing an open-world mixed toilet with no pandering but as it stands right now they're all soul-crushingly terrible to play daily, and content updates that serve as the payoff for all your suffering are worse than they used to be 2 years ago.Skip button, sweep option for dailies/stamina and auto for easy event/abyss stages should be the bare minimum, but Genshin got nothing after 4 years, and WuWa only has a skip button that doesn't work half the time and overall the game is an even bigger waste of time.Schizos that will play literal garbage because a text-box said it loves you like people in this thread, or in femcel reddit communities are the minority. If gacha industry wants to make money again they need better games, not more games that split the existing bottom-feeder audience more ways with each new game release
>>1637508>Schizos that will play literal garbage because a text-box said it loves you like people in this thread, or in femcel reddit communities are the minoritylollmaowhen that mindset's what keeps the mill running in this industry even in current year, why do you think this genre likes targeting teenage boys and middle-aged men with no outlet to burn their disposable income on
>>1637508>Schizos that will play literal garbage because a text-box said it loves you like people in this thread, or in femcel reddit communities are the minority.Are you fucking blind? See the #1 name on the memechart. >>1636644
>>1637518Millions of teenage boys and middle-aged men aren't playing Genshin anymore because it's fucking garbage, all the people I knew that picked up Genshin during covid no longer play it. Most also said they'd be willing to try another chink gacha but everything that came out since (HSR ZZZ WW) was too trash to catch their interest.Instead of making more shit games and saying>we're totally gonna pander to you this time, dude trust me lmaomaybe it's time to make something that doesn't suck again?>>1637522>memechartFuck off with that fake shit
>>1636757Hmm. Why Arknights are massive hit while Path to Nowhere are flop?
>i-it's le fake if it makes my precious femorrhoid flops look badblame your bitches for flopping and your fellow waifutrannies for being broke lolethese sites get paid to do business analytics. troons don't get paid to cope and defend waifuflops
>>1637534>Arknights>massive hitlmao
>>1637536I'm not comparing Arknights vs all gacha anon. I just said this game are massive hit compare to path to Nowhere (similar theme, similar genre, similar character)
>>1637534>first cn gacha that popularized mixed gender and safeshit>gfl drama>al drama>yostar's golden child(directors are friends irl)>rabid fanbase that constantly feed off genshin's hype>hipster's choice for newfagsThat's probably the only thing i know. Critiques are either immediately silenced or redirected to an easy target that is hoyo.Ptn got none of these.
>>1637365>Pander to homofujoyuritroons>Revenue drops off a cliff since straight men are the biggest spenders>desperately try to bring men back(to fund more homofujoyuritroon content) but they're having none of itYou love to see it.
>>1637534Huge marketing budget. They are the third highest spending dev for ads. The first one is Mihoyo and the second one is Lilith Games(AFK Journey).
Charts should also show how much the company spent that month.
>>1637583that would destroy my narrative tho
>>1637583Now that is something they wouldn't release.But we can guess.Marketing and if its 3D or so.
Will Rover now be labeled as a trans icon character?
>>1637602Too many people are lusting for female Rover. This is why I tell people feMC in Azur Promilia should be the male MC's sister.
>>1637614Just look at fan art.
>>1637619>just watch pornno thank you libtard, I want the hot character on my screen when I play and that's final
>>1637624>I want a woman MC on a self-insert gameYWNBAW
>>1637614incestcucks can get fucked for ruining lumine and belle. I want my yuri mc
>>1637625yeah ok SJW, go censor things you don't like somewhere else
>>1637634>If you don't support my AGP fetish you're a SJW
>>1637632Nah>straight incest = yurishit
>>1637637>NOOOO VIDEO GAYS ARE TURNING MEN INTO TRANNIES>WE NEED CENSORSHIPWhy are soccer moms posting on 4chan?
>>1637639I agree with this, yuri is great and so is incest.
>>1637642>NOOOO VIDEO GAYS ARE TURNING MEN INTO TRANNIES>says as he wants to roleplay a lesbianSo they were right?
>>1637642>>1637649stop replying to yourself schizo
>>1637632>Yuritroon slips mask about his intentionsNo wonder you hate honest sibling incest
>>1637653>yurifag hating hetshitI mean duh?
>>1637326Why is Aether such a chad?
>>1637326>trying>the fanfic yuri novels in the shotYeah they really aren't.
y'all mentally ill
>>1637602>switch to mrover on cutscenes>switch to femrover on roamingThis is a win for everyone.
>>1636768It's more of a early release/beta (?) but Horizon Walker came out very recently and is make MC only
>>1637676loom sisters our response?
>>1637750Playable Jeht any day now
>>1637750loom is also for aether
>>1637775Faggot
Tier list
>>1637782>company standing>games from the same developer in separate categories
CN drama from Infinity Nikki, the game full of praise (by media) with a team of 1000 developers but unable to make money.It turns out that they modified the user interface and many female players add one more thing to the list of complaints.The interface, according to many complaints on its bilibili page, is uncomfortable and looks like that of a cheap web game, in addition to blocking some things from the open world, such as the boss's name.the game has been full of complaints at launch from optimization to reducing PC image quality to make mobile a better fit.
>>1637992but hey they changed the interface so the shop button is the first on the list and is now golden. now players no longer have to worry about not being able to find the button to spend money.
>>1637992This game makes no money because it's fucking stupid and makes no sense:It's open world but not actually a Genshin clone, it's a Mario game with no RPG mechanics, everything dies in a fixed amount of hits, and there's no reason to spend stamina or upgrade anythingAll the daily shit is also really obtuse and requires reading to figure out: doing dailies may need upwards of 20 minutes if you roll bad quests, and fags on /v/ couldn't even find how to spend staminaThere's just no reason to engage with any of the gacha mechanics instead of playing this like it's a single-player game until you get bored then uninstalling. Doubly so if you're a dumb woman that can't read or navigate menusWhoever greenlit this was either profoundly retarded, or tried to sabotage the company on purpose. Wasn't this the game that took loans from Mihoyo? If so, I bet hoyo gave the money expecting this to flop massively so they can do a hostile takeover
>>1637992When this flops, we will forever have ammunition to say that women don't spend money on gachas, lmao
>>1638032They'll just say men were the actual majority.
because ironically they don't spend money on these games.LADS has money because it is explicit porn that is aimed at adult women with financial stability, whether married or single working women.games like infinity nikki, genshin, wuwa, zzz, etc. they are aimed at a younger women audience, mostly students who do not yet have financial stability, ask yourself why that bastard wanderer is so popular among the teenage public, it's because young girls like him but adults women reject him for being a poor dude with a poor appearance, mature CN women like guys like zhongli or neuvilette who look gentlemanly and rich but in GI, adult women are not the majority.which is the reason because a game like Nikki does not have the wallet of women with financial stability, since those are not interested in an open world game without adult themes, for Nikki to have the attention of those same women from LADS she must have added some porn mechanic or something like that
worry about your own games trooncelsthe biggest waifuflop simulators are dying and new releases are all flopping
>>1638094>a game that women had to sabotage because it was doing too wellOnly proving the point, sweaty.
I'd point out how ignorant it is to compare a brand new game to an 18 month old one but there's no point. The mental illness is too high to comprehend such basic logic.I will say I'm looking forward to seeing how Infinite Nikki charts in a year a half from now... if it even lives that long, which I doubt it will.
>>1638170Keep in mind they are also comparing it to a game that just refunded a fuck ton of premium currency...there is no reason for money to be spent on that game for at least another patch.
people spend more on character dupes and weapons though
>>1638186a certain game let you farm character dupe, give 1/3 of weapon dupe from weapon gacha rebate and only need 1 dupe to max out a weapon though.
It's funny that you specifically name snowbreak fucking troonwhen even that game on its anniversary had a better peak than the best position that infinity nikki could reach during this honeymoon.The funniest thing about your comparison is that snowbreak has only about 40 developers and NIKKI has 1000 staff employees also made up of ex-Disney employees, a very high marketing budget and even paid them more than Wuthering Waves to receive an almost perfect grade for part of IGN.It also receives advertising from Playstation, a lot of praise but the players don't have money, NIKKI should add sex to see if it increases the collection a little, at least they won't stop it because it is a game for "female players", at least not like snowbreak which have put a gun to their head in CN through censorship and have forced to remove skins and refund.
>>1638211> 40 developersSnowbreak has a team of about 100.
>>1638211Snowbreak had one of the most coordinated shilling campaigns ever, it was just organized by chinese internet schizos.
After the layoffs due to the last incident, they no longer have 100 and even their reduction capacity was reduced, so much so that it is expected that the same developers hope to normalize at 2.5 - 2.6
>>1638206Being generous shouldn't stop whales from spending unless they no longer trust the company.
>>1636921>King of Glory WorldLooks amazing and most likely the next big hit after Genshin. It's Tencent so it's not gonna flop.>Alien RingCool world design and no loading screens are nice but everything else is mid.>Codename InfiniteMost promising anime gacha so far. Who doesn't love Spiderman-style capeshit? Netease made it so mobile optimization should be solid.>Ark: The EndToo early to tell, but Factorio type games are niche as fuck even within automation sims. Doesn't have the mass appeal.>Blue Star Original Travel BalladSafe horny shit. It's a Manjuu female-only game but everyone wears spats? Who the fuck is this even for?>Full MoonJust a worse version of NTE, which is already a worse version of Ananta. Dead on arrival.>Codename Two Bars ThreeGravity-defying movement is cool but the combat feels off. If there's no news next year it's probably just another scam for VC funding.>Hui JingSuper low budget. Dead on arrival.>Yanyun Sixteen TonesGreat visuals but only on PC, the mobile graphics suck. Is this even gacha? Looks more like a singleplayer buy-once game.>Condor ShootingCan't find this one on Google. What's the CN name?>GuilongchaoSome feminist game.>Girls Frontline 2Mrs. Raymond's game.>Walking with the New MoonGameplay looks alright, no clue why it flopped. Maybe because of mixed toilet?>>1638102This is like 5 layers deep into the hoyo rabbit hole to get the joke, care to explain?
>In the corner that no one cares about, the comment area of Dusty Damira is being highly inflamedIt seems that it is because of the dispute between the suspected copywriter and the QQ group players, and the official did not have a clear end of the platform ml group, so it directly exploded
>>1638032Will we even have the usual memechart for December?
>>1638304Yes, the same retard will make it I guess, but since it's a shitty excel document without any pics or colors, no one will care anywayAlso, seems that people already moved on from what I've seen too
>>1638307Most generals outside of the Hoyo trio seemed to ignore the excel one this month, it's not enough shitpost fuel.
>>1638300Oot. What is that game? And why they name that game damira?
[GOOD NEWS] Genshin Impact was featured by CCTV (national television broadcaster of China)!
>>1638334My fuarking hero
>>1638336LMAO
>In the corner that no one cares about, Guilongchao has a new ML character.
>>1638342>Game's so dead, even the comments are talking about how dead the comment section is.>To save it, they add an ml character to bait the whales who are still around - except there aren't any cause the game doesn't even appeal to them.>The character's a fucking furry.lol. lmao even.Are the devs actually retarded? They're trying to pander to ml furries, which is like a niche inside a niche. How the fuck can they save the game.
>>1638361Mihoyo successfully gaslighted everyone into mixed toilet trap then go back to ML pandering by themselves.Dawei is genius.
They fucking made a Toilet Game Awards video lmao.https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1sJCMY5ELM/
>>1638362>Mihoyo successfully gaslighted everyone into mixed toilet trap then go back to ML pandering by themselves.you forgot to mention that they're gigaflopping as a consequence tranny lole >>1636872 >>1637365
>>1638363Too bad I don't understand shit, but seems that Hoyo won almost everythingHoyosweep!
>>1638362>drive away MLfags>go back to ML>no MLfags left to play your MLDawei is just too smart.
>>1638361Eh, knowing China's track record with female furries, the devs probably won't commit to the furry form anyways, assuming she has one. Like, the only female furry I know of from a chink gacha is Wai Fu from Arknights, and now that I think about it, I'm surprised ZZZ didn't launch with one of their own. But then again, these devs were retarded enough to take THIS long to start pivoting (I think the game's in an even worse state right now than Snowbreak pre-summer/Katya), so who knows.
>>1638342>GuilongchaoIs this shitty kusoge still relevant?Like it din't even have overseas version (JP are included}. So why we still talk about that game?
>>1638368Because the CN players think the game is sucking up to xxn (misandrist feminists), and the fact that it has a bunch of prominent male characters just makes them double down on that idea.If the game dies it’s basically a win for the anti-mixed-toilet crowd in this thread.
funny
>>1638370Are tik tok hours an important metric for gacha games in China?
>>1638094reminder that women will never be gamers
>>1638368>>1638369Also, they literally copied hoyo greedy model before the release of the game.>SSR rate nerfed from 2% to 1%>Guarantee at 90 changed to coinflip on 80, guarantee on 160>Resources from completing the content have 70 less pulls>Standard banner changed from a selector every 70 pulls to an one time selector at 200 pulls>Weapon gacha changed from direct pulling to a co-op boss fight. Still cost gems same as pulling, to enter the boss fight. You have to to it one at a time, so basically you have to clear 10 co-op stages to do a 10-pull.>>1638371>Are tik tok hours an important metric for gacha games in China?Not really, since HoK pretty much always tops TikTok so HoK hours matter more than TikTok.
>>1638375I seeStill, it's funny that genshin isn't even getting some fucking tik tok hours anymore
>>1638361Fox spirits are nothing new, they aren't targeting furries
Reminder than Genshin had its biggest revenue and relevancy when it was a waifufest(post Ganyu release up until Yelan/Hutao in Sumeru) Worm regions still can't match those years btw.
>>1638370Oh wait I'm wrong >>1638381. A fucking rerun banner (3.4) pulling in twice as much as an Archon release (4.2) shows how badly Sumeru fucked up and wrecked players' trust in the game.
>>1638382Lets not pretending 3.4 banners weren't top pick for its time (2 T0 dps/sub dps and 2 T0 weapons)meanwhile 4.2 had brick support and ultra brick weapon
>>1638383>Hutao>meta during the dendro eraLol,lmao even.
>>1638380I'm so torn about the next banner situation, to be honest.Two new female banners running together.Mavuika being meta as one of the strongest DPS, tall female with big boobs and Genshin's first time ass jiggle physics, skintight fanservicey suit, has had an actual important role in the story, even made Hoyo toss aside fucking Capitano just to make her look cooler.Citatli, literally the most for (You) character ever of Genshin, even with Hoyo's blessing (kek), extremely liked in Japan.And yet, do I want next patch to sell good? To break records? Or flop?On one hand, it would give Genshin and Natlan a moment to breathe from it's slow but steady revenue downfall.But if it succeeds, it would demolish femcels forever and I don't think they would ever recover from such burtal mogging.
>h-hutranny isn't meta i swear x-xhe's just that popularlmaothe tranny only got powercrept when arletranny was released
>resident troon doesn't even play GenshinWho would've thought. The only meta during the dendro era was dendro teams, Nilou bloom with Kokomi was number 1 by far followed by aggravate/quickbloom. Vape teams outside of Childe needed whale investment and stil couldn't keep up. Hutao was always popular, tranny.
>>1638389Forgot to addThese banners flopping would be fucking catastrophic for Hoyo, Genshin and Natlan, pretty much killing the whole 5.0~ region patches
>>1638336i look like this
>>1638389Hoyo doesn't deserve your sympathy, for years they censored/shipbaited women,retconned MC pairings and kept releasing worms. Stop being a battered wife, if Mihomo cared they'd stop releasing gay/shipshit in all of their games.
>>1638389Just so you know their newest Hutao's skin has pitch black shorts with no shading againThis company hates straight men
>Natlan is a huge flop since the opening. Why? reasons are below.>1.cn genshin communities have become increasingly toxic, male chars and female players constantly get massive hate and bully. wanderer and neuvillette are top2 most hated chars so far. >2.after 4.1 there's no new limited male 5 for almost a year. and then a leaker called uncle 404 said there would be very few male char in natlan and mhy would no longer release featured male chars.most of us refuse to believe in her at that time. >3.then natlan PV came out. the gender ratio rings the alarm. and then they nerfed neuvillette on the release of 4.8. That's when things become grave, the flashpoint of genshin's flop. from that day on I stopped paying to the game, thats also when uncle 404's leak gained credit and influence. >4.after 5.0 launch, we found uncle 404's words even get more reliable. for example kinich,the only male char in 2024 and very likely ,the whole natlan, was treated poorly(too little lines &lores compared to mualani&kachina)during the AQ despite his highest popularity among new chars.even Ororon is only a 4 star. >5.gender wars become white hot after natlan. we began to believe that it's for those incels' loud noise(meta male is illegal,only ML waifus can make money, etc.) that mhy decided to turn around. we were super angry that mhy chose to stand by them, so many of us fled, there's bunch of new games anyway.since then, love&deep space,a husbando only game, is now constanly above genshin in revenue chart, no waifu-only game ever can do that. >6.mhy is now desperate to make 5.3 banner sell good.to achieve that they even put 2 new 5 stars together for the 1st time along with a new skin.But the playerbase is very disappointed with mavuika being a dps instead of a XL/bennett upgrade. conspiracy says that mhy eliminated xbalaque/capitano's kit&lore to hype her,so as to cater to incels.Thoughts?
>>1638408I havent seen any melty from Tieba leak sub and that place is moderated by multiple women/homos
a single banner not flopping after pushing a shitton of emergency buttons before going back to dying again isn't gonna demolish anyone but mihoyo tranny lolethat just means genshit will spend 11/12 months gigaflopping instead of 12/12. these bitches aren't even gonna outsell arletranny + neuvillette/kazuha rerun
>wormxister knows xhe can't compete with Inazuma so xhe has to punch down to NatlanLoving every laugh.
trannyzuma only got a pass because the game was still fotm your femorrhoids flopped and killed the game. 52% YoY decrease btw kek
Still waiting for wormyears and wormregions to outsell Inazuma btw. Wormorroids killed the game.
/gig/ hours
>>1638408I am among those who did not believe the leaks because I have to admit that I still had not understood how crazy the Chinese gacha playerbase is, both male and female, and I think that if one wants to make video games this is the worst sector of the industry to work in that country. Not releasing Capitano is not a choice that I agree with, just like not releasing Signora, there is the problem however that hoyo only releases characters "friends" of the traveler and therefore neither of them qualify as such unlike the other three fatui. For the rest, Genshin was a game for everyone, pandering has never been one of its main features, in a certain sense this is what the hangouts were for, this hypothetical change of direction could be a double-edged sword, probably if it were not for the plot and exploration (which wuwa will fail even in 2.0) the game would be at great risk.
>>1638460>Genshin was a game for everyone,That had never been the case. The gender ratio was always skewed towards female characters(just like every other big mixed gacha) because men have always been the main spenders, and the story followed typical male self insert pandering tropes. If mihoyo didn't spit on the face of their loyal customers to chase tourists(women) Genshin would be a powerhouse to this day.
>>1638463>this1.0 characters catered to the male gaze, post-yelan/wormeru is when all the characters were just flat out censored, not even safe-horny, not even boob jiggle, a full year of worms, funny didn't see moids complaining back then. They did this to appease women and homos, plus they added little lgbt easter eggs like wormveh
>>1638463>The gender ratio was always skewed towards female characters(just like every other big mixed gacha)>and the story followed typical male self insert pandering tropes. NTE is one of the next big mixed gacha and it completely invalidates what you’re saying.>7 males:10 females at launch>Zero (0) fanservice>The canon main character is a girl (no male option in cbt)>And the official community ban any discussions about ML, so there’s zero male self insert panderingshit
>NTE is one of the next big mixed gachaIt's nowhere near release troon. Ananta stole its spotlight btw and it's very self insert pandering.
>>1638408i don't trust anyone who uses the word incels unironically
>>1638468brutally mogged by antanta
>>1638371I've heard tiktok revenue is pretty stable so if a game surpasses it you'll have a good metric of how much they made. Also it's hard for employees to inflate their iOS ranking past Tiktok because then the higher ups will ask why the banner surpassed tiktok and yet revenue did so poorly (why do you think ZZZ "relaunch" stopped at #2 just before Tiktok in China?)
LMAOit was never like that, Genshin Impact was a normal two-dimensional gacha game with an anime style, which maintained the status quo like the other gachas of its style.the ratio of men to women during the release made it very clear ¿why do you think the popular female characters of GI are in mondstat and inazuma practically?even the art style changed in wormmeru and anyone could notice it, also how drastic was to make the traveler a fucking shitty camera to the point that it was unpleasant, even arlecchino a character that many ML players liked when it was revealed in the trailer was rejected when she became the fucking troon that you would see in a game like Path to Nowhere, they also ruin Xianyun an expected character by turning her into the exclusive support of a worm that no longer sells, what trust do they want to recover? now?I'm not so drastic as to reject worms in mixed games after all they exist so that i as the main audience save a little and so that my wallet can breathe but make worms the center of attention like Sumeru did and convert the girls in the slaves of the worm is a deal that I will never accept.
>>1638493>I've heard tiktok revenue is pretty stableThat's fake news.
>>1638496>she became the fucking troon that you would see in a game like Path to NowhereYou're underselling PtN, that games got a bunch of pure sex characters like the one in the pic (Obviously not as much as AL). The problem is the devs are trying to please both the straight males and the carpet munchers which ended up with the girl in the pic getting fucking removed.Eventually they put her back in because a lot of players were pissed and left so they wanted to win them back.
>>1638496for starters there are no popular femorrhoids tranny kek
>>1638468>next big mixed gachaAbsolutely delusional, maybe we should start having most retarded comment in /vmg/ awards.
>>1638473> it's very self insert pandering.Dafuq, the post above prove that NtE is the mixed toilet game for Faggot. And you faggot you doubt the truth. What is evidence that you prove that Ananta is self insert pandering faggot.
Go watch the trailer.
>>1638514>What is evidence that you prove that Ananta is self insert panderingLiterally almost 100% of the scenes have MC in them (ignoring the wide views/cutscenes that are meant to show off how big the city is obviously).In the new trailer, a lot of people missed some of these unless they went back and watched slowly but>Aileen is playing Mahjong with MC>Alan seems to be playing basketball with MC on his team>Pink haired girl is trying to take a sneaky picture of MC+cops>MC with the girl playing dartsAnd then there's these which may or may not actually be some ingame mechanic but,>The 1st person POV shots of Aileen being embarrassed and Lykaiai offering (You) a drinkAnd it was like even in the original first trailer too>All of the girls huddled up next to MC in the movie theater>Dila being alone with MC on the rooftop with the sparklers and fireworks in what looks like an important cutscene
>>1638517>TrailerWhen you din't learn that mistake anon. Just because MC always appear in every moment on game trailer. Doesn't mean that game is self-insert pandering. And the fact that the Dev ban ML discussion in the comment just show that this game are potential scam (the chink will say that game called northern Myanmar game, but i call that game better, the PAJEET GAME).
>>1638523>And the fact that the Dev ban ML discussion in the commentThey did? Source?
>>1638523I think you're confused anon. Ananta and NTE are two different games, NTE is the one that banned ML.
>>1638525Oh wait is the NTE that actually against ML?! I'm sorry Anantachad for stupid aggression
Oh well Boycott the NTE. And whoever play NTE are deserved to be called a faggot
>>>/vg/507283873ctrl+f "male"You gigfags are so obsessed with male characters.
>>1638496The traveler being a camera is one of the bullshit that the detractors of the game use, genshin has many problems and does not pander as the Chinese would like but:The traveler participated in the rescue of Dvalin, we do not know if without them it would have ended well.Raiden and the civil war of Inazuma were stopped thanks to the help of the traveler.Naihida is free thanks to the traveler, without them it would have been impossible to save her.Probably there would not have been the trial of Furina without the traveler since to get to that point it was necessary to involve several people who without the traveler would never have collaborated.Natlan is not finished yet but for now the traveler has helped save lives and reduce the number of casualties.To this we must add all the times in which they have solved problems in the world quests where other adventurers have failed.The only place where the traveler is ancillary is Liyue, but that is one of the worst AQ in the game, despite that they did their part even if they were more of a pawn than anything else.Of course if one wants pandering, a Mary Sue/Gary Stu protagonist, to be at the center of the world, etc, then the traveler is not for them, the traveler is not the protagonist who does everything alone but is that protagonist who thanks to others manages to make a difference and solve problems.
>>1638536we love male
>Worm defense force is hereTraveler was a pandering, center of the world protagonist up until the end of Sumeru,you revisionist faggot. He went to a fucked region, he saved the region,he got fellated by everyone for doing so. Of course that stopped when the game switched to female pandering since femoids hate self inserts, so he became a camera for Wormderer and had little impact in Wormtaine.
The traveler is the most useless protagonist ever and if you remove him from the writing and replace him with anything else, from the plots of Sumeru and Fontaine, the nation's main problem solves itself because they don't need him, don't think that we are all stupid like you.
>>1638468NtE got eclipsed the moment Ananta came back. It's not even a competition.NtE's actual rival now is Wangyue which is also an open world mixed toilet.
>>1638545it's even more ridiculous when 4.8 event shits on (You) as a camera when Wormderer is somehow a hero and potentially steals Alpedo's role in the future
>>1638300Seems like this game betrayed the people who were trying to help revive it.
>>1638562This is why simping for companies is stupid IMO, regardess it's ML, mixed toilet, whatever.They aren't your friend, they aren't your family, only money matters to them and they wont hesitate to turn on you for profit.
>>1638562>Vietnamese gameLol
>>1638566Simping for companies is not means to an for these people, it's the end goal. ML niggers don't want a game, they want a parasocial relationship with a game company.This fetish for "reviving" dead kusoge is like donating large sums of money to literal who streamers with 10 viewers for attention.Oh no, the streamer betrayed them how sad. They get what they fucking deserve
>>1638170Even CN fags admit Nikke flops hard especially since it is a AAA open world gacha with thousands of people working on it, not some shoestring budget projects like SB. https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1hgqNYwEaT/Most of the complaints though are about optimization. Nikki’s a dress-up game but it looks like shit on phones, and even on PC you need high specs just to make it look good??? Like come on, it’s a fucking dress-up game, graphics are everything, if it looks like trash on phones who the fuck is gonna buy skins?And don’t even get me started on the garbage customization options on skin, just check the general if you wanna see people complaining about that shit.The devs are stupid af, how do you make a dress up game and then make it so only high end PCs can run it? Basically it’s only playable by dudes with gaming rigs so they shot themselves in the foot.
comparatively GFL2 launched its global server at the same time as nikki but it ranked top 10 in different stores around the world.Nikki was at best top 98 in JP and 21 in CN and in the United States she was not even seen in the rankings, KR outside the top 100, honestly if she manages to reach 5m on mobiles it would be a miracle, also in the PS5 store her maximum peak was worse than TOF in fact it is currently behind TOF (imagine releasing a game for PS5 and locking it at 30 fps). honestly papergames should only dedicate themselves to making porn games for mobile only, that's what best knows how to do.
>>1638593Infold games is just retarded. I guess they learned their lesson since their next game Ballad of Antara is for men only.
>>1638602I just don't see the value in a dress up game.GFL2 had the luxury of recapturing old fans with JP and KR that had played before but stopped which looks like it worked out for them. Plus since its gun focused you get the /k/ crowd interested.
>>1637477thats what i feel when randomly watching some of the future releases, holy fuck its as if mihoyo's B team decided to release gachas using previous games as basesi'm so fucking sick of those style, at least ZZZ tries to be different but all it takes is modern wuxiaaaaturd arc and its same shit all over again
>>1638537when people say the traveler is a camera they mostly mean in events btwif an event story features a male character in its cast you can be 90% certain they will overshadow the traveler
>>1637326The for (You) girls:>Yoimiya cucked you with Tartaglia, with even the seiyuu blessing>Ayaka hasn't appeared since 4.3, and (You) were almost literally a camera in that event too, lmao>Shenhe, the tall female with big boobs and ass made to bear your babies, is long forgotten and only came back as another character on that shitty thematic banner genshin does>Nilou is kinda retarded but in the event where she was more into (You), she cucked you into oblivion with fucking Scarashit, kekHow many patches will Hoyo give Citlali before ruining her?
Numbers for my friends>Mobile only. In comparison, Tencent rose from 7.08 billion to 8.2 billion, NetEase fell from 2.37 billion to 2.15 billion, and Missan fell from 2.32 billion to 1.7 billionhttps://www.gamesindustry.biz/gamesindustrybiz-presents-the-year-in-numbers-2024
Not everyone can pull off open world. I'd be fine with something smaller like a PGR clone with only female characters.
>>1638628>at least ZZZ tries to be different but all it takes is modern wuxiaaaaturd arc and its same shit all over againIronically wuxiashit is what saved Aether Gazer in the first place (after pushing three homos in a row) so given how desperate ZZZ must be right now I can see them doing the same thing at some point
>>1638692I'd like that too minus the dificulty desu but Genshin pretty much killed that market and I swear every dev capable making a Honkai clone is as much of a faggot as Hoyo is.
might as well rename this thread to mihomo troons general
>>1638696There was Nornium but who knows what happened after the last test.
>>1638733 (me)forgot to mention that it's also chinese, so it could get censored at any moment if it ever comes out
>>1638733Nornium needs more time in the oven. They probably pulled an Ananta. Unlike Ananta, Nornium don't have any publisher backing so it will definite take more time to iron out the development.Chance of it getting censored is 50/50. For now, devs don't give a fuck and embrace what they want, space combat with a ship full of fanservice and ML.
>>1638389I don't have on hand the image comparing female asses to male ones, the amount of detail in shape and shading is crazy. I don't know how anyone could wish success upon a mihoyo game, wishing something only to spite a different group of people is childish. Just fucking let mihoyo die in a ditch, we all know they are only pandering because they are doing bad financially, as soon as they start doing good their tendencies show up (like in HSR case). All the money they make with pandering is getting funneled straight into making more males and shipping. This not only happened in genshin but in zzz too.
>>1638778after seeing lighter's flop banner then miyabi saving the game, i doubt hoyo will be retarded enough to risk placing bets on m*les anymore, troon employees even tried to sneak in censorship and reverted right back.
>>1638812Unfortunately HSR 3.0 has been in the works for too long so it's going to release with tons of males.
>>1638688>Japan is just a stone's throw away from CN spending with less than 15% of CN's populationNip whales really are built different
>>1638812They didn't fully revert it. Characters still fade when you get too close.
Anyway, I didn't spend any more money on HSR, this time I never bought any pass, I already knew that HSR 3.0 is suspiciously similar to Sumeru 2.0 but without so many men (more similar to Fontaine, see them launch HSR neuvilette)since Sunday announced to powercreep Sparkle (the worst thing is that he doesn't even have half the money that Sparkle made), the funniest thing is that they realized that people were not pulling for Sunday for the summons meta and automatically made robin's ult now work for meta summoner.Now a leaker recently announced that Robin is repeated in 3.0, if you know that those worms are not selling, what is the reason for doing that to Sparkle?
I agree, mihoyo should die.
>>1638812But they are retarded. Why would they want to attract the same audience that left when they already have other alternative games with better waifus already? The fact that every single on of their games are full on faggotry should tell you that they can return to the status quo with genshit at any moment
>>1638496>even arlecchino a character that many ML players liked when it was revealed in the trailer was rejectedThe most direct spit in the face of their playerbase. I recall everyone drawing her with big tities and shipping her with the traveler (both genders), only for all of that to cease to exist when the actual patch came out. Truth be told, I fully expected their femcel writers to pull something like that so there was no hype for me.
>>1638662>Shenhe returns>Monkey's paw curls>She gets shipbaitedI'm waiting, Dawei. Just do it. It's gonna be glorious.
>>1638884>chongyun>yunjin>ganyuHow many gyatt do you need?
>>1638537>Probably there would not have been the trial of Furina without the traveler since to get to that point it was necessary to involve several people who without the traveler would never have collaborated.LMAO.
>>1638408Why are the chinese incapable of formatting coherent posts?
>>1639013>MTL runes having coherent format>clearly has woman hands written on itYou tell me, anon
>>1638486It's because it's a woman, lmaoSo now everything about she posted makes sense, it's just femcel rambling
>>1638408tl;dr femorrhoid flops don't sell. waifutrannies are broke. game started dying after shitting out femorrhoids
>>1639035>genshin somehow keeps taking L after LHonestly? I never thought I would see this dayIf you would've told me years ago about the current state of genshin, I would've never believe you
>>1639027but if waifus dont sell why do they release six new waifus for every new worm do they not know worms sell better
Don't you guys get bored arguing about the same thing everyday?
>>1639048it's just one-sided coping. all the numbers are on my side while the mentally ill tranny has nothing to showwho would've thought that the real genshin killer would be its own femorrhoid flops kek
>>1639053except none of those random made up third party meme charts and estimates answer my single fundamental question - if worms sell but waifus dont, why do they release six new waifus for every new worm?your only answer to that is to schizobabble how mihoyo is a company ran by trannies that hate men and would rather go bankrupt than sell what sells lol
once again, these sites get paid to do business analytics while you cope seethe and dilate on 4chan defending your femorrhoid flops for freeyou can't do anything but downplay existing data because you have nothing to support your narrative tranny kek
>>1639048Dramatrannies are newfags and newfags only know hoyo, who would've thought
>>1639067so those charts are made by business professionals and they are businesses and therefore in it for the money which means they need their data to be as precise as possible, yeah, that sounds reasonably logicalbut what about mihoyo thenis mihoyo not a massive company with tens of thousands of employees with monthly revenue in hundreds of millions of dollars, does mihoyo not need to make a profitdoes mihoyo not have access to at least the same if not superior data than these third party companies that only have limited information and have to rely on estimates does mihoyo not know how much each banner sellsdo they not have accountants and managers and internal review and various other employees that analyze such data and they genuinely not know worms sell better than waifusor do they actually know worms sell better than waifus but the company itself is control by evil trannies that hate men and would rather the company go out of business than sell what sells well out of pure spite?let me guess your response to this is going to be to either ignore it because it thoroughly dismantles your schizophrenic worldview or go "t-t-too long didn't read! cope and seethe tranny!"?
tldr femorrhoid flops don't sell. waifutrannies
>>1639072six waifus for every worm
no wonder genshit is dying. femorrhoid flops don't sell after all
>>1639074but they release six new waifus for every new worm so worms must be selling even worse
wow xhey're real active right now. must've come crawling back home after getting xhey're ass kicked in /vg/ again.
[Bad news for Papergames]>1. The civil war between Love and Deep Space has started again. A player claims to be an insider and scolds a rich woman for buying goods for free. Paper Games denies it and says it will be handed over to the legal department.>2. The bug of Infinite Nikki that cannot be removed from the card has not been fixed for four days. Is this normal?
If Mihoyo's games are flopping due to lack of females, where did all the people go? Because I've seen that according to the narrative here people are abandoning Mihoyo for true ML games, yet games like Snowbreak and GFL2 aren't exactly fluorishing. So where are they? Things just don't add up.
>>1639096They stop playing gachaThey only start playing because covid
>>1639096that's what i was talking about kek >>1638094waifutroons are used to their echo chambers so they just spout the most retarded bullshit i guess
>>1639096the dutch homosexual is arguing the opposite he is arguing mihoyo games are flopping because they stopped releasing his fellow faggots and only release waifus
Angelo is paying out double giftcards for the holidays. You can see the pajeet/pag are working overtime.
>filter 1 made up words from both sides>thread quality went up a lotIt's really just two schizo bickering at each other, huh.
>>1639115A case could be made that Love and Deepspace has taken all the female players away from Mihoyo, but it feels like male players just vanish into thin air?They don't spend on Mihomo games (as demonstrated by multiple graphs in this thread that shows their revenue is falling) but no new ML gacha has overtaken the top spot either.
>>1639115It reminds me of this tweet where the guy says Natlan is dead because there is no shipwarsThat's when I realized that these people don't care about their ships, they just want to have ship wars.
>>1639132That guy is saying ship wars is an indication of a highly-passionate fanbase, not that Natlan is dead because of no ship wars.
>>1639121Because for male-oriented games there's far more competition, so the men that quit Gayshit are all spread out. It's not like LADS which is the only game that women can support and all the other new women games like Ashes of the Kingdom and Infinity Nikki are flopping.
>>1639137Wonder if LADS will ever get its big boy competitor.The easiest way would be to diversify their cast cause all I've seen from the webms are k-pop supermodels.
ah yes the good old saturation cope. never mind the fact that 99% of waifuflop simulators are flopping and irrelevant because everyone just flocks to the biggest ones anyway
>>1639121For one, there are no high budget ML games. The closest thing to one is fucking Snowbreak, and not only is that a pretty low budget game, it's also been repeatedly censored and sabotaged, which makes people less likely to invest in it.
>>1639144I think that if Azur Promilia goes full ML direction and they start communicating with the players as much as Snowbreak does then the game will be so popular it will finish off Genshit.
Why does Guilinchao die in CN if they throw worms at next to the girls, ratio 1:1 ?while snowbreak even returns to the CN top 100 with bubu skinless and refund lmao?those worms don't sell and even guilinchao that spent a ton of advertising in mihoyo lvl realized it but too late, it breaks its promise of 1:1 ratio now and thinks it can survive, that's what happens when you believe in GI sumeru.The parasitic public is treated as parasites, not as the main public, the existence of worms is a necessary evil so that I, as the main public, can skip them and my wallet can rest, but they should never be the center of attention
>>1639142if waifus flop why six waifus for every worm
>>1639153>GuilinchaoThis general is the only place I hear about this game, but I do hear about it a lot. Is it a big budget game?
>>1639163>Is it a big budget game?No, it's the kind of trash you can buy on dlsite for 5$
>>1639132Apathy is one of the biggest signs a game is dying.If even the schizos can't be bothered, normal people definitely won't.
AP is at almost 3 million pre registrations. Will they release something for Christmas?
>>1639170I hope they keep femc
No, but it was advertised as such and was even initially launched in the first month with more advertising spending than GI in bilibili in 2024, female players nicknamed it the DNF killer LMAObecause they hate DNF for being a game whose base is 90% men.
>>1639171I hope they don't, let it be the first true high budget ML game so we can finally settle the debate after it's been launched for a year.
>>1639173Funny thing is DNFM playerbase is 98% men actually, it has more men than Snowbreak lol. That game's pretty much a paradise for male players too bad they fucked it up with some bad updates.
>>1639171Same, but only because I want it do die the way all new mixed toilets have been dying. I don't want a dev that clearly hates ML audience gets successful from ML audiences playing their game.
>>1639175No high budget game is ever removing femMC, doing so is like setting money on fireJP and global all want femMCmost of CN and KR can tolerate itThis is the kind of SEA schizo that doesn't want femMC >>1639179Who do you think brings more money, normal people or that dude? Just give it up man
>>1639181The same argument can be made about not having males in gacha, why would you alienate the vast majority of women from your game, don't you want to make as much money as possible?
Normal players don't care whether the character's gender is female or male.but because they are normal people they have a certain level of tolerance, if GI push homosexual shit in their throats like sumeru and 4.0 fontaine did they will definitely feel weird and run away. if GI give them strange shit like trying to whitewash a war criminal as a wanderer, they will feel uncomfortable and run away, They will not announce it, they are what is known in video games as the silent majority.
>>1639183That's why everyone made mixed toilets lolThe problem with mixed toilets is that your playerbase isn't spending on half the banners so you don't actually make more money despite higher server and marketing costsfemMC makes your game more popular on JP and global with no downsidesLet's say there's a 20yo otaku woman that watches mahou shoujo/idol slop that would be interested in playing your comfy farming simulator gacha with only female characters. Why should you alienate her?Why should you alienate le AGP gooners?To pander to social media addicts (male)? They bring about as much money as social media addicts (female), which is 0, doesn't sound like a financially sound decision
>>1639183And even if you want to pander to males exclusively, I'm pretty sure there's still a lot more homosexuals (aka people who want males in gacha) than there are transgenders (people who want female protagonist).
>>1639192you sure know a lot about homosexuals, faggot
>>1639195Please stick to your own games like HBR and R1999 and let straight men have their own games. I know trans people have a very hard time accepting this, but the entire world does not revolve around you.
>>1639197schizo
>>1639192>homos, wymyn, troonsI can feeel the subversion. Away faggot.
the MC and the FemMC are things that must be handled correctly in these games.if you play an anime gacha game with both MCs make sure you don't try to force normal players to not consume homosexual thrash period, but these shitty developers outsource writers and translators that end up pissing off not only schizophrenics, but gamers normals who don't want lesbian crap, inclusive language, shitty feminism, trans crap.At the end of the day, the normal player's thinking aligns more with the schizophrenic, and ends up not caring if there is a female MC or not, as long as the game is normal and fun.
>>1639191The reason mixed toilet became a slur and the Chinese started the if men won't play movement is because they feel shafted when the game has multiple different audiences with different interests because they feel like their interests are not represented proportionally to the amount of money they give to the company. I don't want lesbians playing my waifu game because that lesbian will probably demand to have waifus fuck each other instead of her (female) protagonist. She might be into women, but she is still a woman and as such loves shipping and gets angry at perceived "incel pandering". The entire anti-mixed toilet "movement" is inherently exclusionary, it's about straight men wanting games that pander to straight men specifically. Having female MC is a massive red flag as it leaves the door open for infiltration by these subversive groups. >>1639198>>1639199Do you have anything constructive to add or are you just gonna bleed from your rotting neovagina in anger because straight men don't want to share spaces with you?
>>1639199This guy is probably femorrhoid schizo's sock puppet. Think about it, why would any shitposter with an agenda make themselves easily identifiable by adding the same catchphrase to every post?The guy is using his deranged femcel persona to draw all the flak, while this "pro ML self-insert advocate" personality calls men trannies and shills for censorship in male oriented games. Remember, he's the guy that used "perverts" as an insult and cried about "sad losers" and "freaks" playing his gamesIt's probably just a woman/homo redditor rage-baiting. Like look at this shit >>1639206, who in the right mind would pretend female MC is for lesbians lmaoThe guy doesn't believe in anything he's saying, just ignore him like the femorrhoid/worm spammers
>>1639218I too would love it if you ignored my posts from now on, arguing with seething autogynephiles gets tiresome pretty quick. If you promise you'll stop seething at my posts from now on that will be a pretty good Christmas gift.
At the end of the day gachagames and single player games from the Western AA-AAA market have thoughts that are objectively similar.If you push homosexual garbage you die or lose audience massively, for the mixed gachas this is represented in the male characters and the femMC.for AA-AAA games in games with cringe and inclusive trash like dragon age veil guard in inclusion and diversity trash (inclusive language) are red flags, conclusion there are more people who reject homosexual garbage than those who accept it
>>1639229NOOO this is like Dragon Age Veilguard, save me selfinsertman I'm going insane
The only way FemMC would work is outside of gacha games. Like MMO where you create your own character and proceed to do ERP with other fags. Or RPGs with character creation because MC's gender don't matter in long runexcept Failguard and Bioware games.FemMC for gacha games are just wasteful because they are better off be actual characters, be it one note or otherwise, instead of being a mute most of the time like normal MC because they are sharing the same lines and thoughts with only difference are their genitals.
Arknights is now also doing ML.
aieee stop doing ML incels must lose!
>>1639121There are a ton of small budget fanservice games so people spread through like a hundred kusoges. Also, Mihoyo has walked back on their world multiple times so they aren't coming back there.
>>1639275meant for>>1639096
>>1639139I would definitely play if there's a fat mating press old man as one of the characters.
>>1639264amiya has been platonically for (you) since forever it's nothing new
>>1639264Huh? I don't see ml thing in there. And >Arknots doing mlDoubt about that anon. Heck that game din't reach level of gfl2 ml pandering
>>1639303Yep. That thing was bait post.
Why do you think LADS rejects homosexual shit publicly? They know that this game is for heterosexual women, if they put in gay shit like Genshin Impact does it would be a mass exodus.people don't run away from the male characters of Genshin Impact, they run away from the pattern that comes from the male characters of Genshin Impact and all the homosexual shit that entails because they already stereotyped them like that with sumeru, to top it off they throw in the homosexual twink from liney in fontaine which further accentuates this stereotype.while LADS takes the heterosexual women, the normal players are taken by DNF and the waifu players are divided between different games on the market since they have more to choose from and that is why games like snowbreak or GFL2 are saved but games like guilinchao or ash of echoes are on life support just waiting for the EOS announcement.
The toilet game awards are now on the front page of Tieba. It's crazy how big the ML tieba forum is now.
>>1639309I don't know why you mentioned Lyney when Venti was already there since launch and he acted way gayer than Lyney
At that time, people had not noticed the patterns due to the novelty of the Zelda-style open world. When they began to notice them, the stronger it was with Sumeru, which was shamelessly forced down their throats and also helped to make all the DEI shit that has been seen in recent years it has become more aggressive in video games, the gender war is the consequence of the symptom of the mental illness called homosexuality.
>>1639320If people failed to realize with how the first four months only featured 4 male banner + 1 loli that's on them, really. The game itself didn't change, 1.x had the same amount of homosexual shipping with Diluc Kaeya and Venti and Xiao and Childe and Zhongli and whatever, people only became used to Inazuma waifushilling and demanded more. When Sumeru came and repeated 1.x people began comparing it to 2.x and got disappointed. Nevermind the fact that Sumeru still had Nahida, Nilou, Dehya (who went to standard just like Tighnari), Colette, Faru, Candace. 2020 was just a better environment for people because they weren't so sensitive.
>>1639316post nominees nigga
>>1639316May I have a link?
You are wrong, the male and female Genshin Impact characters from the 1.X - 2.X era were made for normal people.All the homosexual shit that came was from headcannons that do no harm as long as they are that: "headcannons", Genshin Impact even inazuma strongly promoted the traveler's harem and only used Aether as an advertising MC, and the girls were the majority like any game two-dimensional gacha of normal anime, the gay shit began to stop being headcannon in Sumeru to be promoted within the game, which also led to old characters being in danger of suffering the same despite that never got impulse in them
>>1639325https://tieba.baidu.com/hottopic/browse/hottopic?topic_id=28326285
>>1639322You're talking to a crazy /pol/tard feminist trying to shift the blame away from women by rebranding the gender war into men vs homosexualsNone of what he's saying makes any sense if you think about it for more than a second
>>1639329Alhaitham and Kaveh never at any point exceeded Kaeya and Diluc's level of pandering in version 1.x. People also began protesting about feeling NTRed from Nahida and Wanderer's interactions, yet they forgot how close Jean and Diluc were in version 1.x. Bottom line is the playerbase turned toxic somewhere around 2.x, Mihoyo themselves were only doing what they had been doing since 1.0.
>>1639322Yeah, since day 1 Genshit has always been a mixed toilet fraud where men spend the most money but women and fags' opinions are more important. It's just that due to several factors, such as the game being fresh and novel and COVID locking everyone inside, people including me weren't yet aware they were getting scammed by Mihomo until Sumeru.But now everyone is becoming aware that mixed toilets are scams and rejecting them. You even see this awareness spreading to non-gacha games like how some people correctly blame female MCs for ruining farming sims.
>>1639339There were no alternative. Other gachas were just getting mogged especially 2D ones (I played Counter;Side which had tons of waifupandering but it just got demolished with no hope against the might of Genshin). Now there are competitors, but a true high budget ML game is yet to be seen.
>>1639341I remember playing Counter;Side korean version for a couple months, even spent some money on it. The devs actually tried to go the mixed toilet direction for a bit, I remember some huge drama where they censored a girl's panties in the cut-in and the outrage was so big they added the panties back in, apologized and gave a ton of free gems. I quit after they changed it so to buy skins you had to pay real money instead of gems though.
>>1639345The men in that game were mostly the military/mob type except maybe Kai Wong (but he's autistic). It had literally 0 pandering with the male characters which was a stark contrast with Genshin.
It wasn't because in the era of Mondstat and Inazuma the traveler was not a camera so they couldn't propel ships out of the headcannon because even abnormal ones propelled klee x diluc but that was just headcannon. but the change to the predisposition of the traveler camera from sumeru to fontaine was to drive homosexual ships like honkai impact 3rd does.consequence of their decisions is that those who flee are not only ML and FML, but also normal players.The male characters are just the scapegoat that they use now to try to regain trust, since they are the most predisposed to being suspicious, even, Kinich barely had any participation in Natlan because of this, Genshin Impact will never recover its reputation because of Sumeru and all the whores who imposed homosexuality in a game as good as that, I hope they get fired.
>>1639333This. Part of the backlash is due to female characters getting censored (because of women complaining on social media and infiltrating these companies) while homos are left untouched.
>>1639353>homos are left untouchedHow would you even censor males when even being shirtless is natural for men>inb4 censoring girly menLyney has more testosterone than the average Chinese man
>>1639357How about they don't give male characters bigger asses than female, and don't give them a huge package between the legs.
>>1639358Not a solid ground to censor, especially the bulge one (I'm assuming you're talking about Childe) was a memetic hoax.
>>1639357They should have censored shirtless men and Lyney
[GOOD NEWS] Seem likes Ananta just got their license yesterday. Expect it to be released before next Christmas
>>1639370The way they've erased all traces of Alan from the trailers and promotional material and only advertised the females I thought they've decided to only release females but turns out he's still there in their website.
>>1639374he's literally in the newest trailer
>>1639375What an odd decision having literally one male which would drive away mixed toilet haters but refusing to release more as a "might as well" move.
>>1639374hes Ananta's ling yi
>>1639376driving away the extremists is a good thing
He's there to attract normal players, as long as he doesn't do homosexual shit he should be fine as a save banner if he's high rarity.
>>1639387>save bannerthat's poor people speakI'm not gonna play a homo game just to dunk on extremists, GF2 and AP seem to drive them away just fine so I'll stick to that
Let's see, show me all your female characters completely full with copies and their weapons also from GF2, since you are rich I'm sure you have them.
>>1639397>full with copies and their weapons
>>1639330They sure hate Arknights
>>1639379>fully clothed male and is the only one so far>females built for male gazeIt'll be safe from both extremes as long as they don't listen.
>>1639405Okay anons let's be honest for a second, do you guys actually think Arknots Endfield has any shot at being the next HSR? Like, big enough to rake in hundreds of millions a month at launch?
>>1639408Factorio gameplay will filter a lot of people. I think most people are so used to Arknights being "that tower defense game" it would be a mistake to suddenly pivot to something that different.
>>1639408Arknots dev seems like the only chinese mixed toilet company that wants to make what they're making and not just chasing some trend with no plan. Idk if the game is any good but it definitely has more of a chance than soulless slop like nte and ananta
>>1639408As much as i have my doubts whales will flock to literally anything that's popular and not controversial and fans will gladly eat and promote their slop for free.So yeah i think they will have a good run.
>>1639407even their chara leak is all femalenetease isnt retarded like hotta
>>1639408I could see the combination of strong existing brand and the game looking good getting them most of the way to a 100m launch.I don't think it'll be a 100m a month game though. I'm not sure we're likely to see another one of those for some years.
>>1639408it'll be a flop like most of the stuff releasing next year
>>1639370Commemorative illustration from the devs
>>1639436I really dig Ananta's artstyle, I hope the game is good
>>1639445desu I've never tried NetEase game before and heard bad things about themtried looking into their most recent game which is Marvel Rivals and so far the reception seems to be positivehope they wont be greedy with monetization and ruin the game
>>1639347Yeah but about censorships: give them an inch and they will take a mile. While it won't go into mixed toilet exactly, when it tried to censor themselves, that was a concerning sign. The fact they added it back after the pushback just shows their true nature of their decision.At least it ain't like GBF. Oh boy, now that game for veteran players is a case example of sunk cost fallacy for nips.>>1639408Maybe at launch but after that, dwindling until it stabilizes or something happens. Game is interesting but nothing really new. It's different against Mihoyo's gameplay but that's it. Don't know about Factorio aspect, my austism doesn't cover that genre but tismbuilding is not that niche in PC games. Times like this made me think: why cant they just release it as a full game??? Chinese game companies keeps following same road of gacha is the future. Hate to admit, but even safekini Ananta looks better than Endfield. >>1639436Artstyle reminds me of very tame Dohna Dohna. No blaring colors too.
Dohna Dohna if it member of Chinese Communist Party
>>1639163All I got so far about it is that its a action(?) sidescroller that can't decide if it wants to appeal to men or women, so it ended up with player numers that make pre-fanservice Snowbreak look like genshin
Christmas Greeting Illustration
>>1639501Post this in the Stella Sora thread. There's no real drama around this game.
>>1639501The main girl is just Pecorine.
>>1639468>why cant they just release it as a full game??? Chinese game companies keeps following same road of gacha is the future.It is waaaay too late for China to go down the one-off route. You need to understand that, with some exceptions, pretty much every chink grew up with MMOs and gachas so their minds are hardwired towards live services, hence why they ignored Ex Astris and are shitting on BM:Wukong for whatever reason
>>1639533>are shitting on BM:Wukong for whatever reasonYou sure? Because I've seen that they are still seething about not winning the GOTY
>>1639535the only one shits on Wukong is hoyo women cause for some reason they think that game affects genshin somehow
>"Alien Dust: Damila" was a dead game with 8 employees>Suddenly resurrected itself using the ML name>Got men to spend on the game to try and revive it, then ran away scamming everyone>Estimated they scammed about $82 thousand dollars>And turns out apparently all the employees in the company were women
>>1639587wtf
>>1639587around women never relax
>>1639362The point simply was, female asses got censored to shit (only now, 2 years later, they are re adding shaders to female asses), while the males got juicer and juicer asses. So, double standard and such.
>>1639387Problem is, as long as your game has at least 1 attractive guy, people are going to complain day and night about why they don't put in more, making comparisons to LaDS, and trying to critique ML lovers. This didn't happen in brown dust 2, because the males are either skeletons or a fat otaku dud. To be fair that one is a cuck coded game.
People really seem to be hedging their bets hard on Azur Promilia even though it'll most likely be shit. Azur Lane is a chore to play and Manjuu never really learned how to improve it on a fundamental level, and Promilia looks just as tiresome to play with its stupid farming and egg collecting shit.
>>1639632>Gacha game must only have girls playable with maybe exception of MC>MC is male, no female or ambiguous MC>Company must publicly declare their audience are menThis is the minimum standard for new gacha games in China now, because companies have shown again and again they will betray their male playerbase first chance they get and cannot be trusted. If Netease wants Ananta to succeed then they will remove Allan and the female MC, otherwise I think it will flop in China because there's no market for it. If I want female mc slop then I'll just go play AP at least that has only girls.
>>1639641their problem will be content cadence. mihomo has set the bar very high with frequent content updates, and high polish. People underestimate the cost and expertise it requires to do it. Manjuu could barely shit out a shitty dorm, they're used to dropping slop update events, where it's just walls of text, and lewd pngs i don't think it will flop, but if they're going to expect mainstream success like genshin, which i think they are, being that they're copying their formula, they're going to fail miserably, they can barely keep up with their shitty png collector, their only game. The only reason AL is still going strong is because the have die hard fanbase that will eat any slop, and zero competition in the kanmusume space.
Manjuu's now manipulating their prereg numbers so it takes longer to hit 3 million. I think we might get some Azur Promilia news on the 26th, don't expect anything but maybe a congratulatory picture though. There's a small chance they do reveal something big but I think that won't happen until near the end of January.
>>1639629Dehya is easily the unit Hoyo must fucked withShe never stood a chance, and it infuriates me because she's also one of the bests they've designed, by far
>>1639657>takes longer to hit 3 millionfor what purpose? i always figured companies did the opposite, more fake preregs makes the game seem popular, which will attract more normies
>>1639666>666satan agrees
>>1639667im guessing because they want it to happen on the 26th instead of the 25th which is a holiday.
>>1639374bwo...
>>1639181>CN can tolerate itthe loudest schizo are coming from chink, tho?
>>1639181You are ignoring how things work in each country, putting a woman as the MC means you cannot do same sex romance in china, while JP and KR have no such law. In FGO, for example, you have implied sex with both male and female units, while KR doesn't really do much romantic pandering other than Nikke, while CN players are hungry for a game with an actual romantic relationship between the MC and the units, and they can't have that if you can choose a female MC.This is why so many people are advocating for removing female MC in promilla, they game won't have romance if it does, and shipping will start to flourish.
>>1639338>live in the same shacks>doesn't exceed Kaeya and DilucAlso Jean and Diluc are both likeable and their relationship already established from the start unlike wanderer and nahida. Try harder.
>>1639697Desu they can just pull what they are doing with ZZZ, have the female not get the romance.
>>1639695CN is funding absolute slop like Arknights and HSR, 1 or 2 delusional fags from some forum are not representative of what the unwashed masses think.>>1639697>lawlmao retardquote the actual chinese law with a source or it's bullshit
Why are no one making games for Fujos?
>>1639714>quote the actual chinese law with a source or it's bullshitNTA but okay.WeChat>https://www.bbc.com/zhongwen/simp/chinese-news-57763594>中国多所大学LGBTQ组织的微信账号几乎在一夜之间遭到屏蔽,周三(7月7日)在网上引起抗议。批评者认为这是当局对性少数群体有针对性地进行审查。>The WeChat accounts of several Chinese university LGBTQ organizations were blocked almost overnight, sparking online protests on Wednesday (July 7). Critics see this as targeted censorship of sexual minorities. Weibo>https://web.archive.org/web/20190617191452/https://www.news24.com/World/News/chinas-lgbt-community-finds-trouble-hope-at-end-of-rainbow-20180602>They decided to ban all LGBT-related issues, the public shaming and subsequent apology came weeks after China's popular Weibo microblogging platform faced intense criticism for censoring gay content, with the hashtag #IamGay viewed 240 million times. Weibo reversed course within days - an unusual concession for the social network.Grindr>https://www.metroweekly.com/2022/02/grindr-removed-from-apple-stores-in-china-amid-crackdown-on-bad-internet-culture/>The popular gay dating app Grindr has been removed from app stores in China as the country’s Communist government renews its push for censorship ahead of the Winter Olympics
>>1639587kek >>1638574
>>1639322The thing is, people had options if they wanted to play female characters to tide them over until limited 5 stars female started to release, the game had great designs like Keqing, pre censored Mona , Jean, even 4 stars like Fischl , Xiangling, Noelle, Barbara and less optimal options like Lisa and Ninguang were widely used because the meta was just starting to take shape, while eagerly awaiting for Ganyu and Ayaka since people knew her from beta, all this leading to the ramp up of female characters in Inazuma later labeled the waifu region.There is a reason Mona, Ganyu, Keqing, Hutao and overall the first batch of female characters were so popular , followed by Ayaka, Raiden, Miko and to this day they still get a lot of fanarts , a status female characters post Inazuma have not really achieved aside from Nahida, Furina and maybe Arlechino ,but thats also because they are 2 (lol) archons and a Harbinger while the early popular characters are literally nobodies in the grand scheme of things like Hutao, Ganyu, Mona etcThe game had good quality for a gacha game , casual yet you stil could have fun , anime immersive world where you could travel and watch your waifus or husbandos run around all day if you wanted. Most people were ok with male characters , but then feminists and gay people started to complain to the ccp and the 2nd wave of censored female characters outfits (1st was Rosaria I think) , after which people knew this was going to affect future females releases, thus marking the beginning of the end .
>>1639694Literally me
>>1639407>females built for male gaze>It'll be safe from extremesAre you for real?
>>1639733It will be safe from the retards that can't handle even 1 male, so I guess it's a good filter for the mentally deranged.It's like shooting blanks in your neighbor to lower rent.
>>1639720>didn't post the lawLGBT activism and organizations are also banned in russia, doesn't mean girls kissing on screen is.Literal yuri smut is printed in china, you can't post the law because it's not real.If such laws were real (they're not), there are billions of ways to circumvent them
>>1639537The femcels saw Wukong as the icon of "masculinity" that they want to get rid off.
>>1639715>it's been proved that male enjoyers make profitexcept they don't, they are a loss, only brought in to maintain the female/homo audience, and they only get propped up by being forced meta characters like troonvillette. non meta waifus like eula bring in more despite being useless. i wish these people would come to terms with reality already, if they were so profitable, every game coming out would be a LaDS clone, yet 99% of games in the app store are marketed towards males even the mixed toilet ones.
literally just google arcane season 2 last episode chinese censorship you inspid tranny
>>1639739That's not a law, it's not wanting to deal with controversy.There are both dyke and faggot content made for chink conventions. There's no real law stating you will get jailed for it specifically.The fact that you can't easily link it just shows you're wrong.
because i am not chinese and don't have access to chinese legislation (nor do i care about this issue all that strongly to look it up)how about you post some explicit homosexual content that was broadcast in china in 2024 and the actual chinese version of it and not international market one
>>1639739So are niggers also illegal in China or what?Post the law or fuck off
dont samefag its patheticshow me some of this numerous chinese explicit lgbtqia+ content released in 2024 instead
>>1639746>denial>schizophrenic accusationsmany such cases
>>1639720So i guess it's fine as long as it's fictional and/or implied?
no examples? alright then
Ignoring the tranny having a melty since it really doesn't care, while also replying 4 times in less than 15 minutes.There are no laws that specifically target faggotry as far as I know. Instead, they label it as immoral when they feel like it. That has laws against it.
mihomo literally had a comiket-style event where only creations of its games were published, that included homosexual content since it was a closed space.The reason mihomo stopped encouraging that shit is that parents who also went to those events with their kids (after all GI is considered a family game in CN) complained and got the fujos fan made kicked out of the event creation of mihomo, it was the first time that I applauded with love the parents of CN.What I want to get at is that gay content in closed spaces is allowed, this is what mihomo did during the events he did when he was sumeru, if it were not for the normal crowd, those despicable mentally ill people would never have been expelled.
>>1639750I'm not Chinese and don't have access to Chinese LGBT smut, sorry :^)it's totally real tho
instead of samefagging on cooldown you can simply shut me up by you know providing some examples of explicit lgbt content that aired in china in 2024if it's as accepted and numerous as you say then surely there will he no problems doing that
>everyone I don't like is samefaggingWhy is this tranny so upset?
NPAA regulate games in china They set their own rules and review games on case by case basis
>>1639753yeah i heard of that incidenta tartaglia yume was pissed off fujos were drawing her husbando like a faggot and reported it to the authorities and mihoyo had to shut the whole thing down and banned all shipshitwhich to me sounds like it was either illegal or borderline illegal but they were able to do it in the past as no one cared but as soon as someone raised a stink about it, it was immediately shut downand even if such fan conventions aren't merely tolerated but are actually perfectly legal thats still a completely different situation than having actual massive chinese corporations themselves release such content
>>1639753doesn't some lgbt activist tied to a ngo work in the higher ups at mihomo? they will do whatever they can get away with, and they do it subtley sometimes, and other times more overt, heck i remember that disgusting quest I did in watatsumi, where the woman at the end was a lesbian, and did that bashful gesture, implying she was a lesbian for her student, i couldn't believe it, i was grossed out, it wasn't even an event, just a side quest.
>>1639760>as no one cared but as soon as someone raised a stink about it, it was immediately shut downLike a lot of things in china, it's fine as long as nobody important cares about it. Then it's a question of how much that someone important wants to not care about it again.
>>1639761that quest implied nothing of the sort you are simply a retard mindbroken by twitter yuritroons who insist every girl that so much as looks at another girl is canon lesbian and for some reason you hate read so much of their shit you started to internalize and believe it yourself there are a few other examples that seem more overtly homosexual, such as the joke dialogue of one of ningguangs secretaries obsessesing with her beautiful body thougheverbeit
>>1639744>So are niggers also illegal in China or what?Yes???
>>1639763exactly so if you draw amateur lesbian comic books and share it with your friends on weibo or whatever other chinese social media there is you will not get in trouble but if youre a company making a massively popular game you will not even be able to get away with an unanimated kiss on the cheek in an unvoiced side quest (jeht censored scene)
>>1639715>Why are no one making games for Fujos?Because fujos only turn out for merch.
>>1639765Have you ever seen a man say>i was grossed outYou're talking to a female SJW posting bottom-tier rage baitThis person never played the game
>>1639773>sjw>hates faggots and trannies like youpick one and only one esl
>>1639774stop camping the thread all day retard, everyone can recognize it's you
7 women and 1 worm, it's even fun to watch.
>>1639803Do they expect to incline again with that strategy? Even after cucking the player to death?
>>1638224Has any game fucked up as hard as snowbreak?That game was literally everywhere. Every thread, every corner and every site was shilling it as the best fanservice game with the best girls and the best everything. Then they got two censorship patches in a row followed by the absolute fucking disaster that was the Qingying shit and their horrible response to the entire shitshow and the few guys left in there are desperately playing damage control to prevent everyone from leaving.
>>1639807>meanwhile in reality everyone is enjoying bubuokay tranny, sorry mihomo won't give you worms anymore, but attacking snowbreak, won't bring your worms back, no matter how hard you cry
>meanwhile in reality everyone is enjoying bubuLike I said, damage control lmfao. Sorry about your sunk cost I guess, better luck in next life.
>>1639807>That game was literally everywhereYou said it: was.I haven't seen a snogger in a very, very long time, kek. The game really fall into irrelevancy, again.
>>1639812>muh revenoooo!!!now i know you have a wound between your legs, snowbreak has hit AL status, it has a niche audience that plays on PC, literally don't give a fuck how much they make, this patch and the last patch was great, all that matters, meanwhile "femorrhoids" killing your game
>>1639814i mean you have one here who is extremely angry about getting called out>>1639810>>1639815dude probably spent a thousand or something then got fucked over and is now stuck holding the sunk cost bags
>original Genshin killer EoS’dhttps://x.com/tof_en_official/status/1871767898869624947?s=46&t=xaIEG-F7DwUjsE6P7QNj-QWhich one is next?
>not much drama happening in holy night>have a jolly night >b-b-but snoggers!!Is this rent free?
>>1639823damn, those people that bought those coomer skins got scammed, that's why i won't even go near NTE, ananta will kill it
will manjuu post anything?
>>1639699Kaeya and Diluc were basically the sworn brother trope of chinese fujos who also lived together their entire childhood. There's no out-fujo-ing Kaeya and DIluc, not even Alhaitham and Kaveh.
>>1639823nigger it just says it's transferring publishing rights back to the original developer
>>1639725Mona, Amber, and Jean were censored by bureau investigators near CNY, so according to CN it was those things censorship bureau employees do near the end of the year to prove they've done something significant and not just laze around all year.But the Rosaria thing was just due to the fact that Mihoyo just couldn't figure out breast physics a.k.a incompetence. Genshin is actually ridden with modeling fails, so much that it has become a running joke even before Sumeru. The most egregious example was Arataki Itto having probably the worst model in the entire game, despite being a male which, according to theories that are floating around, should receive extra 3D modeling attention. But the truth is far from it.
>>1639833Hopefully, it looks like a better palword graphically with cuter girl
>>1639841??I know they probably fixed it by now, but i don't remember rosaria's jiggle being messed up, i remember looking at jean, rosaria and eula, and the jiggle was great, if anything it looks toned down now. not saying you're lying, just i don't remember considering i used to look all the time
>>1639852She was nerfed before becoming playable. Pre-nerf Rosaria was much bigger than in your webm.
>>16398531.2 Rosaria was fucking massive.I remember being extremely hyped for her because of it and I even was going to build her. +4 years from it, and she's still benched after I got her back then. I lost all motivation to play her.
>>1639856Pre-nerf Rosaria + jiggle legit could've had Chinese parents protesting in front of Mihoyo for corrupting their kids lmao
We keep getting more new girls
>>1639868Where are the homos?
>ctrl+f m*h*y*>31 results>ctrl+f m*h*m*>9 results>ctrl+f z**>20 results>ctrl+f g*nsh**>55 resultsnow this is rent free.
>>1639868One thing yall haven’t mentioned yet is that a staff member from NetEase’s Ananta team deadnamed Snowbreak in their Merry Christmas post, probably hinting that the game’s going to go full ML route.
>>1639884social manager doesn't have any say in game developmentthey are probably not even full time worker but just contractor
>>1639812b-but it's the savior of gachas LMAO
>>1639868don't the devs know that it's males that sell? >*proceeds to post made-up schizo tranny charts*
>>1639316and yet every single waifuflop simulator is flopping bigly in china. curious
>>1639893Alan is gonna be MC's joke buddy if NetEase is based
>>1639884saar...
snowbroke me>this thread
>>1639900So far he seems closer to MC's athletic and handsome fujobait friend >>1639694
>>1639868where muh wormbros at?
>>1639923STOP ASKING!
>>1639897Curious>>1639803
>>1639925umm... where are the hags? hebes don't sell, i need my jade, black swan and kafka
>>1639934Your canon wife Dila is a hag
I see snowseether is back, miserable even on christmas
>>1639934Are you blind?Dila is a hag, and the leaked ??? And Toxir are also hags
Thoughts? Is he correct?
>>1639945if the tldr is that femorrhoid flops don't sell and/or waifutrannies are broke, then yeah
>>1639945>LaDS>fujothis homosexual gave himself away, they pander only to YUMEstacies. this troon can't self-insert because they gatekeep his mental illness. love to see these homo meltys, just go back to playstation 5 or netflix or whatever troonshit you did before covid
>>1639945>HSRHusbandosGod, that place and WuwaHusbandos are the worst femcel cesspool you could find everThey are the equivalent of 4chan schizos but on the tranny/fujo/femcel side
Seems that Scaraworm fans will indirectly kill Genshin 5.3 on Jan 3
>>1639956I don't see anything wrong with this. These are very passionate fans.
genshit's revenue dropped by more than half after a year of shitting out femorrhoid flopsshart rail's revenue also fell off massively after a year of releasing and shilling femorrhoid flops. it made less money in 2024 despite being active the whole year vs 8 months + 1 week in 2023
>>1639945xe is a faggot and you should go back.
>>1639884Stop falseflagging poor snogger.
>>1639956>hoyo had to give scaramasa away for free in zzzdoes anyone normal like this guy? i won't even level him up despite providing his ascension materials
>>1639961Games that are a few years old tend to decline, yes.
>>1639959the waifutroon's just bitter cause xhe can't even spend on xis femorrhoid flops in-game, much less so on fan events like these
>>1639966more than >50% in just a year isn't natural. neither is shart rail's decline since it's 8 months + 1 week vs an entire year. especially considering the fuckhuge amount of cash they spent on penacony's marketing
>>1639974I quit HSR because they killed off my favorite character Gallagher then went right back to Xianzhouslop. Fuck them.
>>1639934Isn't Lykaia hag? I thought she's supposed to be (you)r boss?
[sad news]WangYue's PV didn't do too well, the response to the trailer is not up to expectations so likely the budget is cut. Evidently their teams immediately went into damage control saying no one's getting laid off and they're still hiring.Next year we'll see which one survives, Ananta, Neverness to Everness or Wangyue.
>gacha drama>It's always cn gacha drama with kr drama as the side dish>JP din't mentioned at allI guess because gacha drama are rare in japan
>>1639983Jp gacha isn't drama-free or anything but the real problem is they just don't make new IP gacha games anymore LMFAO, or they dont give a shit enough to release their games globally. They're just doing the bare minimum with these shitty LN adaptations for easy cashgrab and then EOS them.
Anyway does there any recent JP gacha drama?
>>1639985But Umamusume anon
>>1639982Ananta > NTE > Wangyue with ZZZ suddenly losing their main identity and trying to find a new ground.
>>1639987Fucking this, you just gave an example, when that game releases in the West it's been out for like five years already.And don't even get me started on their dumbass IP ban keeping anyone outside Japan from playing
>>1639986China has completely mogged them, japan has been mindbroken from larry fink-sama, square enix is dying, nintroondo is bending over to the jews, snoyny is pozzed by california, japan is a jewish vassal state like america
>>1639982Judging by trailers, Ananta seems to be on a whole different league compared to the other twoAnanta really destroyed any upcoming urban gachas, and probably will also kill ZZZ
>>1639987Umamusume isn't really original since Cygames paid the license to use actual horse names from official Horse Race Association or something. GBF and its related media is the only thing original afaik.Closest thing to anything original are from DMM games, otherwise they are just milking anime/LN IPs from their guillible otaku fanbase.
>>1639985because most jpn otaku already switch to either CN or KR games the normalfags play shit like DnD or baseball shit
Are there even any big gacha coming from JP anyway?FGO and GBF are basically sunk cost centrals and will eat any slops or HIV coming out, hard to expect any big drama nowaday
>>1639766Holy fucking shit LMFAO
If wuwa (improvement over Genshin in every aspect) couldn’t kill Genshin. What makes anons think ANATA will actually be “the next big thing”? Asides from the few ANATA shills, be honest. Do you really think ANATA will be the next big thing and why? What if it actually flops..?
>>1640009wuwa already killed genshin in korea tho
>>1640000GBF is pretty much a zombie IP by now.Cygames should've made the jump to a big 3D gacha game years ago with it, but instead shat out Relink which single player support died in a few months after being developed for like 8 fucking years.Now they lost their chance now that some korean studio is making that Breaker: unlock the world, which is pretty much a 3D GBF.
>wuwa (improvement over Genshin in every aspect)lmaocombat is the only thing it does better than genshin and some people prefer simpler combatother aspects are subjective
>>1640009Why would it even need to kill genshin?
Sad year for CN femcels...Next year will be worse!
Korean mmoslop dev transforming to gachaslop dev is fun to watchThere are like tens of them and they can all produce game with AA tier graphic
>>1640015The new DnF looks very bad thoI hope Project RX could be better but its in UE5 so
>>1640018TLDR?I don't mind reading wall of texts about the themes we discuss in here, but MTL chinese translations are unreadable
>>1640018>mtlgreentext summary pls
>>1640018>>1640025Oh, nvm. I read it and it's quite readable>>1640027Basically says that>Natlan's more oriented female characters route was most likely determined since last year, the decision wasn't made because of the "Men won't play" CN movement of some months ago>mihoyo is still an otaku company at its core, so creating waifus is still their goal, they only shat out some male characters to stabilize the company and keep money flowing, and since genshin was an astronomical success, they are back to create their waifus>some rumours about Ifa upgrading from 4* to 5*. which doesn't make sense since Chasca is already the 5* of that tribe>liyue female characters are the only ones that keep getting skins which involve some sort of "black silk", idk if they refer to black shorts and bare legs, and some people in CN see this as disdain for their country (liyue based on CN)And last, the author recommends not fall into mihoyo's brainwash and avoid them at all costs
>>1640032>Natlan's more oriented female characters route was most likely determined since last year, the decision wasn't made because of the "Men won't play" CN movement of some months agoBut the ROOOOTS?
>>1640032it's not a coincidence that they started going all in on femorrhoid flops in the same year they were going to release the last game to fill the gap in release schedules >>1636622they were obviously planning to dominate the industry with waifuslop but didn't consider the fact that waifutrannies are broke and waifutrannies were never even the majority of their fanbase
>>1640009Maybe not Ananta alone, but with enough new 3D gacha games coming out eventually Mihoyo will lose their dominance in that sphere. We've already seen this with WuWa taking a slice of that pie. Now imagine 10 of them.
>>1640032>Natlan's more oriented female characters route was most likely determined since last year, the decision wasn't made because of the "Men won't play" CN movement of some months agosounds like damage control, what was the point of endless homos in wormeru, then later floptaine, and all the censorship since then? I mean, we are getting jiggle with mavuika, and (You) pandering with citlali to the point lumine and aether get different scenes. I call bullshit.
>>1639982>WangYue's PV didn't do too wellunsurprising, everything about it looked like genshin in ZZZs setting with pets from Promilias trailerIn short, theres absolutely nothing setting this game apart from others in the market already
>>1640009waifutrannies want it to be a hit because it has plenty of femorrhoidsbut most people don't give a shit about waifuflops and waifupaggotry so it'll just be another flop like wuwa
>>1640009wuwa is a carbon copy of genshit with better movement, the reason the game went silent for 8 months was because they were making to closer to genshit after the testsAnanta is about as far from that as possible so when it debuts, it will be on its own merits, instead of wuwa, where they gave up on making an original game
It is normal that it failed.This Wangyue game or whatever it's called, tries to export CN urban culture, in my opinion CN urban culture is unpopular everywhere except CN and even games that try to imitate Japan's anime culture are the most interesting, that's the reason for its success of Genshin Impact for example.for bidimensional gacha anime games the one that best exports the imitation of a game that you would see made by a Japanese developer, is the one that will get the money.
>>1640009ananta will flop. in china no one will play because its a mixed toilet and in global everyone will be too busy playing gta 6it'll steal some of genshin's players though and further accelerate that game's death..
Girl Frontline Neural Cloud announced they will be removing some skins from purchase. Censorship has come for Girl's Frontline.
the route was decided when they saw that games like NIKKE and wuwa took away a huge piece of the pie and even shitty failed games like TOF that made 700m in their first year, it's still money that didn't go into mihoyo.both in CN and in key locations such as KR, TW, HK, JP and USA.What is killing mihoyo is its reputation, mihoyo did not think that other games would export too well in their key places outside of CN, and that it would be so difficult to recover its reputation, even GFL2 took away a huge piece of the cake at its launch GL for KR and JP even more than the publicized failure of female players Infinity Nikki (by the way Nikki is behind TOF on the PS5 lol). that money that went into GFL2 was money that could have gone into ZZZ, HSR or GI but since mihomo is too busy hiring feminist writers and CMs that give birth to things like GI's 4.8 story so now they realized it and try to push waifu after waifu trying to tie as much as they can under the sunk cost to the base players who at the end of the day are the ones who spend, (who would have thought lol). the worm drought will continue as long as key locations on the map remain war points between these companies because worms only sell well in CN and yet they don't sell even better than a waifu with shitty kit like dehya.
>>1639868>cowtit girlUh-oh... Hoyo fans WILL boycott this game. They already hate the new oversexualized GI character.
>>1640064gyu-musume in genshit? umm, who is this?
Citlalibros are enjoying the same amount of pandering like Fireflybros months agoGenshin will be resurrected in 2025! Trust the process
>>1639803time to play again i guess
however, I give it 6 months before a mihomo feminist writer ruins it.Citlali is a good example of a complacent waifu, even though he is from mihomo, he brings together the elements that nerds like.with several facets such as moe, tsun-tsun, cute, silly, a personality that you would see in an isekai anime and that beneath that hard shell only the protagonist is allowed to meet the real citlali
>>1640037How does it feel to be ignored?
>>1640075i don't give a fuck as long as they're flopping kek>>1640066trannyfly killed shart fail though
>>1640062cool cope and all but goddess of niggers is also dying tranny. wuwa was DOA and genshit was already flopping before it came outthe genshin money simply disappeared xis >>1639096
>>1640085angelo saar... i could not redeem the giftcards, vishnu is not happy
Why wont companies cater to pedohomos?
Money is lost in different ways, games like Nikke, Wuwa, GFL2, Chenbai, AK, AL, etc., only take part of the Pacman-shaped cake from mihoyo 2022.Two-dimensional gacha games this year were reduced by 7%, that means that the circle that Genshin Impact expanded and monopolized was reduced, Genshin Impact used to be in the top 1 in 43 different countries.The normies do not commit to these games (they are not the base), so they return to the games they initially played before Covid-19, fleeing from mihomo does not necessarily mean that these people would continue playing mobiles but the base distributed the money among different creations, if initially there were people who spent $500 on average per GI each month, with the existence of other games those $500 were divided in 4+ and no longer enter mihomo, if you put together NIKKE and WUWA in 2024 actually gives you about 60m (only mobiles) on average, if those 2 games didn't exist those 60m would have entered ZZZ, in fact ZZZ would have had a similar performance to HSR when it was released, if mihomo still monopolized the market.You faggots don't understand shit because mihomo was so successful with HSR despite being mixed shit in turns but not ZZZ.
>>1640009Genshin is already killing itself. It never recovered after Sumeru.
>>1640095I quit Genshin after Fontaine got leaked and not one character got me interested. Sumeru desert was kino especially Jeht's questline.
>>1639807Femcels damaged Snowbreak but they did it too late. ML has already spread to other games.
>>1640060so neural cloud will get censored, but GFL2 will continue to run amok with their lewd skins? not complaining, i'm pro-lewd, but strange that the borderline eos niche game will get censored and not their flagship game, i play neural cloud, haven't logged in a while, they better not censor my eosphoros skin
>>1640097Snowbreak wasn't gonna make it in the first place. They had been pushing boundaries with censorship laws and were bound to attract the govt sooner or later as their revenue grows.
It's back!
>>1639983JP dramas aren't as spiccy as CN's dramaIt's stuff like a bug in FGO's giving a fuckton of quartz to random players, and then the dev taking them back, so you had players who were mad the dev didn't do it for everyone, and players mad that's they took their quartz back. There was something in HBR with maeda being bullied by nips so hard bc of a event he wrote, he deleted his twitter account and said he wouldn't write events anymore
the only game that put a dent on genshit's sales is shart fail, and even that game is dying after shilling femorrhoids nonstop
>>1640104raymond chads, i kneel, nikke has been dethroned
How can they save this game? Seriously, how will they do it?
>>1639925Fixed
>>1640125It's funny how this game is going to make Infold become a long term debtor to mhy. I wouldn't even be surprised if Dawei lent them money knowing exactly it would flop.
>>1640125>How can they save this game?add porn, they are the experts, let femcels goon
>>1640065the outline of her looked like she was straight up lifted from Ys9
>>1640125>make combat better>coom skins for Nikki>announce that Nikki is officially the player's wifei have now saved your game
>>1640128Infold's fine. I remember someone posted a pic of the deal transaction mihomo gave them and it was only around 20-50 million USD or something (Correct me if im wrong). That’s not much, LaD made like 2-5 times that a month and could easily cover any extra debts they’ve got.>>1640130>>1640132>coom skins for NikkiThey already have that, at least as much as a 12+ rating allows. Haven't you seen the skirts and all the other revealing skins? Just go to the general.
>>1640133>LaD made like 2-5 times that a monththen they wouldnt have to borrow in the first place
>>1640125Add more p2w stuffThe game is too hard for femoids and you currently can't p2w the game beside fashion battle which is a very minor part of the game
>>1640125>bad optimization for mobile due to unreal engine>their main demography (15-25 years girl) normally wouldn't waste their time on pc for more than an hourWait for chink to invent nuclear powered smartphone.
>>1640133nvm found it>On September 29, Papergames borrowed money from Mihoyo and made it public. According to published information, the 6 million shares mortgaged to Mihoyo are worth about 10% of Papergames' shares.>The reason is because Papergames previously opened more than 10 projects, including two open-world games, but up until now most have been closed or have no news.>The amount of money that Papergames borrowed from mihoyo is currently undisclosed and if it cannot be paid before the deadline, mihoyo will own 10% of Papergames' shares.>>1640135That deal was before LaD even existed. FYI LaD hasn’t even hit its first anniversary yet.
>>1640125It's not that bad thoughThe game make more money from pc+consoles than mobileAnd the game is future proof when better phone release they can update mobile graphic
>>164013810 projects? That's a lot more than I thoughtAnd we only know Nikki and that soulslike game
>>1640143I forgot this company is actually making soul clonewhat a weird choice
There is no way to save it, only a stupid overconfident developer came up with the idea of creating a game where its main target audience is mobile users, not even a corporate giant like Tencent is crazy enough to rush the launch of World of King knowing that UE5 technology is too complicated to optimize for cross-platform.infinity nikki even has a low ranking on the PS5, at least her ranking is lower than TOF and we already know that TOF in 2024 is a failure, while infinity is still locked at 30fps and console players especially the fans (sonyers) are very apathetic to those types of games with blocked graphics and gacha system.
UE5 games run bad on mobileI don't know why anyone would pick ue5 if they want to make money on mobileMaybe epic salesman kickback is too good
>>1640164>>1640171>UE5 games run bad on mobileThat's a myth. Fortnite mobile made by the Unreal Engine devs themselves runs buttery smooth at a solid 60fps even in an open world.>infinity nikki even has a low ranking on the PS5It's to be expected, PS5 isn't for girls, if they don't play the game on their mobile devices most girls just play on their PCs.
despite the constant powercreep, HSR is still selling bigly!
Most women play on mobiles or tablets, not on PCs, and the PC Nikki plays on is not just any PC, it is a high-end PC, the only ones who are dedicated to building high-end PCs are men, stop fooling around, That game from here on can only survive by squeezing the soft porn out of LADS.
>>1640171>I don't know why anyone would pick ue5 if they want to make money on mobileI remembered that Nikki's director said it was their Japanese branch that convinced them to move to UE5 because "UE5 gives a good reputation with the player because UE5 gives the impression of a AAA game, and UE5 is the future of gaming so they have to follow everyone"and this is the case for many mobile game studios, they moved to UE5 not because they wanted to move to UE5 but because people or shareholders convinced them that all current games must be made on UE5
>>1640175>they didn't inflate the U.S rankingsMihoyo is getting poor.
>>1640175>still below tiktok, poketcg, and f fucking goha
>>1640171Game development is usually gambling on technological advancement hoping when your game is finished the average player would be able to play your game with better rig. That was the case with Genshin and it paid off for Mihoyo because after 7 (?) years of development Genshin could be considered high-end for most mobile devices but still playable. But nowadays it's not the case for UE5.
Infold can reuse asset from their soulslike in infinity nikki to save money, same engine too
If they weaken the PC to increase the optimization of the mobile, the PC user will complain that the open world and the clothes are not detailed, and if they optimize the PC, the mobile terminal becomes a microwave that gradually destroys the processor and the battery, especially batteries that are covered by plastic like those of Xiaomi and huawei (mid scale) cell phones.the particular detail with infinity nikki is that it sells detailed clothing and that detailed clothing can only be seen on high-scale PCs but even high-scale PCs are not so prevalent on platforms like Steam, they are for a niche audience and the vast majority of them are users are men who know what components to buy to build a good high-scale gaming PC with high perfomance.
>That game was literally everywhere. Every thread, every corner and every site was shilling it as the best fanservice game with the best girls and the best everything.lol90% of snowbreak shilling and discussion outside of the /vg/ general was one guy who didn't even play the game praising the game just to shit on his previous game, gfl2which then attracted mentally ill gfl fans to develop a one sided rivalry with snowbreak so even after that game stopped talking about snowbreak and all the various dramas happened they kept shitting on snowbreak any chance they couldpretty sure if you were to look up snowbreak mentions on /v/ in the last six months over 90% of them would be mentally ill gfl2 fans seething about the game to get back at the mentally ill ex-glf fan that used it to seethe about the game
>>1640198To add to that, said schizo now shills ZZZ.
>>1640198>That game was literally everywhere.It was true (past tense), revenue jumped from sub $300k to $5.5 million, more than a 10x increase.
>>1640011Speaking of cygames, they have all the time and resources to make their own genshin before genshin was even a concept but nah, let's just stick with this boring 2d grindfest with cheap highschool animation till the nuke goes off. Japan pretty much run on the "if it's not broken, don't fix/change it" mentality, that may have worked at first but now the cracks are showing.
>>1640032Still can't explain the year of the homo banners and dawei just decided to come on stage and acted like a bitch.
>>1639983Anyone that still play JP gacha is beyond the point of getting mad at thingsAside from the recent FGO fiasco with gems>>1639986They had a bug where you could redeem roll currency multiple times. Naturally this caused a melty from their side and had the game shutdown for over 10 hours.
>>1640011I hope Koreans can pull off the 3D gacha leap because we likely won't have to deal with retarded censorship there.
>>1640093Don't forget that Wuwa is already coming out in playstation, which will also canibalize some mihoyo players from there tooIn fact, most likely it will be one of its strongest platforms considering Wuwa's gameplay is more suited for a console releaseMihoyo will just keep losing players and money that won't go to them
>>1640210why are you treating anniversary numbers like the norm retard lmao
>>1640186how about turn infinity nikki into a souslike
>>1640230Have you seen this? Not even Nexon is able to pull it off. The graphics look janky.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQHHnwBQJAs
>>1640230https://youtu.be/eazVIFQuEh8https://youtu.be/ItThaUiw3hkhere are your upcoming korean 3d gachas bro.
Why are all Korean gacha anime style?I want hot Korean mmo chicks in gacha
>>1640232wuwa flopped and >>1640109
>>1640264Because they still make MMOs, both on PC and mobile, and the photorealistic style was never popular in gachas
>>1640264TFD?
Why can't ZZZ win any gacha GOTY, hoyobros?Wuwa keeps mogging it every single time...
>>1640141>pc and consoleSorry but anything that isn't mobile revenue are considered cope and imaginary outside of shitposting.
>>1640198>out of nowhereRent free lmao
NetEase is still hiring for Ananta.
>>1640259Koreans could own the world if they wanted yet they keep missing. We'll see if their upcoming projects can do it.
>>1640292What app is this? QQ?
>>1640314bilibili
>Wuwa will keep stealing players away!Correct me if I’m wrong since I don’t play mixed toilet mihomo and mihomo clones but hasn’t that wuwa game kind of plateaued? Any basic research will show the massive declining trend and revenue. Besides /vg/ and /vmg/ is it actually popular elsewhere?So where did all these wuwa shills come from?
>>1640306I wouldn't be surprised if most of this thread was just chinks from /snowg/ and /wuwa/ so of course they have to jump at the defense of their games
>>1640321>So where did all these wuwa shills come from?China, SEA and bitter genshin burnouts/haters. They hate, hate, HATE hoyoverse so getting fucked by the same problems that genshin/hoyo had is perfectly fine because at least it's not genshin!!
>meanwhile hoyo defense force springs into action
>>1640320Thank you.Also, my friend in China is allowing me to use his phone number. What Tieba subs/bilibili accounts do you guys want me to follow for drama news?
>>1640327you dont need account to view tieba/nga postsonly bilibili cause for some reason they only let you see the top comment without login
>>1640321???I don't even play Wuwa but it seems to be doing just fine.
I don't even play it but you faggots did find out that that game was given privileged treatment by Tencent to advertise the new region, that shit only happens with games in which Tencent sees the money like the case of Black Myth Wukong that lasted several months being the face of WeGame, they placed a huge advertisement on their WeGame launcher with Wuthering Waves 2.0 being the face of WeGame.
Why did Hoyo do this?
>r/g*nsh*ng*ysgo back
truly the greatest containment thread on 4chan
>>1640379which chinaslop is she from? actually cute
>>1640380koreansloppa actually, it's eversoul
>>1640393thats a shame, afk games are such a slog
>>1640349Homos don't sell. Simple as.
>>1640397not like you can get her rn if you were interested anyway, she's stuck in npc hell until her release date gets announced on the 29th
>>1640393Is Eversoul mixed toilet or pure waifu? iirc it doesn't have a PC client does it?
>>1640434It's on the Google Play beta client if you don't want to use a full emulator.It's pure waifu
>>1640349After flop sumeru da wei said they are going back to the roots
>>1640239>why are you treating anniversary numbers like the norm retard lmaoYou're the retard, the $5.5 million figure is NOT the anniversary number it's just a regular patch before the anni.
>>1640434>>1640437>Is Eversoul mixed toilet or pure waifu?It's not mixed toilet but isn't pure waifu game either, if you’re hoping for the girls to actually be into (You), most of them aren’t. Half the girls don’t even love you and the fanboyfags defend it by calling it “nuanced.”
>>1640501meh
Korea already has the perfect gameplay with Lost Ark just turn that into an anime gacha game.
>>1640501seethe schizo
>>1640655>no chink server>can get away with morewas it wrong to give them power?
Potential weapon banner?
>>1640725Where the hell did you get this? I just checked all discord/telegram leak servers, nga, tieba forums and found nothing.
Anyone keep visiting these thread just to keep track of # of posts referencing femorrhoid flops to keep track of the seethe as games pander more and more to males?It's like visitng a troon zoo
seems like everyone is unhappy with wuwa's skin price
All female company be like
[GOOD NEWS] Guilongchao staff said they still have enough personnel and won't shut down the game. Everyone can rest assured!
>>1640830The more things change the more they stay the same.
>>1640822>everyoneThe japanese are actually saying that it's cheap and are surprised because of it
>>1640822Imagine paying $35 for a shitty censored skin.
>>1640671Don't need a chink server for them to find their way in; they know how to use VPNs, after all. Some people suspect that the recent updates to BD2 (the cafe thing and rewrites) were mainly because chinks kept nagging the devs about it
>>1640822https://t.bilibili.com/1015111259834548225 37k comments currently.Thankfully our ML bros wer able to defend Kuro and stopped the complaints from snowballing.
>>1640501>NuancedSo a game made for redditors? Glad i ignored this shit when i first heard about this game some time ago>>1640862It was also chinks who made them fire the feminist from Limbus and change all the hand signs from the megalia cult or send a ballon in a protest against genshin feminism? Anybody who went to Arca Live knows gooks waifufags are no different from chinks, they also talked about it Nikke Anis summer skin because of her pendant and the Helm NTR bait that they put it at first with old man>BD2They are changing shit because they are now trying to appeal to waifufag crowd and they cannot do that when their game literally have actual cuckshit characters and dialog, they are even going as far as adding some sort of a self insert for that crowd, since appealing to shipshitters made their game flop.
>>1640501You know, if half the game's characters make you upset like whoever made this, maybe the game isn't what you thought it was?
>>1640869Kek, I mean, the better skin will be freeAnd the pink themed outfit doesn't even suit Jinhsi anyway
>>1640881>Anybody who went to Arca Live knows gooks waifufags are no different from chinksThey actually got the feminists kicked out so they are a step above chinks.
>>1640888That's not entirely true, since their genshin boycott flopped and the Genshit feminist still working there.
It's $21 faggot, the only ones who complain about that shit are the poor provincials of CN and the woke faggots of America who can't see a pretty girl. I thought the traditional Chinese wedding hanfu dress should be elegant because it's for marriage, no. It's to masturbate you fucking schizophrenic.
I'd rather games sell expensive skins (since they're usually for dolphins anyway) than give not enough rolls for F2Ps.Let's face, it poorfags are lucky enough if they are allowed to pull the characters they like, let alone weapons. Also consider how these 3D open world games have high operational cost.Just a few years ago the average Japanese gacha had no pity system (FGO), no daily income (Naruto), and sold $-only event characters (WotV).To complain about skins ($21) is peak entitlement.
>>1640903If I was playing Wuwa I'd advocate for more lewd skins, Kuro has always been hit or miss. If it's good I'd certainly pay.
>>1640903I agree with that as long the skins have some actually good quality and some extra stuff to them, like being able to interact. Nikke skins are 60 dollars and most of them fucking sucks, no way to interact with them and low amount of extra dialog, some that are not even for (you) dialog.
>>1640909This, but more importantly it doesn't has new voicelines which is the important bit since I can accept the cost of having to hire the VA, so the skin costing like 56 bucks without the double first time bonus is crazy. It also doesn't even has new animations, I would be satisfied with even one new idle animation, but no, nothing. It's purely visual, lame as fuck.
>>1640925>has character skin, weapon skin, echo skin, new sfx effects>but anons draws the line at not having new voicelinesKek
>>1640942I don't care about new voicelines desu
>>1640881>nuancedseethe
>>1640945Cope, go back to l*ddit faggot
>>1640948make me, bitch
>>1640889And unlike the hypocritical chinks, they stopped spending.
>>1640956>make me, bitch
>>1640942Yeah retard bro, that's the most important thing. Do you think people would play chink mobages if they only had CN voiceovers? Do you not see how excited people get when they announce the JP actor that will provide the voiceover? People literally buy games solely based on who voices the main cast.Also, the VFX and character costume are cool and all, but NOT worth 55 bucks (without the discount and top up bonus). It's at most 15 bucks, and 8 for a simple skin, since replacing the model on a 3D game is WAY easier than doing live 2D or sprites. The 30 dollars price tag is mostly justified when the voice actor is an A lister, if not then make the skin cheaper.It also doesn't has new animations, which is also the hard thing to do, NOT new VFX or the skin itself. My complain is about the price versus what's included.
uh oh wuwajeets melty
>>1640959>they stopped spendingNot according to your own chart, just being behind China and i would assume the red one being Japan. And that Genshin numbers flopping ever since Wormeru is nothing new also
>>1640969red one is US though
>>1641004So South Korea is ahead of Japan then? If so, my point no only still stands, my it also shows it had no effect at all. And that is not surprising since the Feminist artist was the one who made Furina concept art, the last Genshit character that actually sold well, showing how much the Korean boycott flopped
nothing gets through your brain eh schizo
>>1641036Talking about who lil bitch? So scared that you need to talk indirectly? KWAB
Has the skin price drama completely destroyed the chinese Wuthering Waves community? Trolls are exploiting the critical weakness of mixed toilets having a broad audience, and now players are all fighting against each other. The community can't reach any sort of consensus on what to do.Whether Kuro lowers the price or not, there will be tons of pissed players who will be willing to quit the game. Have skins become the biggest obstacle to Wuthering Waves' success?
>>1641047>biggest obstacle to Wuthering Waves' success?That already happened with them being label as the "genshin killer" here in the west and being a mixed toilet game in CN
>>1641047Isn't the skin pretty cheap comparatively the diluc one was like 40$ and didn't have free a weapon skin free
>>1641047>The community can't reach any sort of consensus on what to do.What about, not buying it?That shit are only giggers annoying everyoneIf the skin doesn't sell, kuro won't make more, but considering the track record of PGR, which releases even more expensive skins, then I think it sell fine
>>1641047Chinks are irrelevant in Wuthering Waves discussion.
>>1641047Kurokeks will defend this.
>>1641047I buy the monthly and have enough for the skin, Anyone who buys packs for the skin are dumb whales
>>1640963tf does this even mean pagpagbro
>>1641145>tranny didn't get it>pagpagbroNot only a ledditor, but also a /gig/er LMAO
>>1640437google play beta is an emulator tho and most games there are emulated using it, with few exception like BD2
>>1641161I don't even play genshit you fucking troglodyte
>>1641271>ledditor /gig/er now trying to deny he is one of themYeah, sure thing tranny
Snowbreak killer is coming
>>1641278doesn't change the fact you're a gayfag schizo that can only think anyone opposing you is a trannoid
>>1641292>tranny mad after being called outNononono, stop seething and go back to your "nuanced" tranny slop ledditor /gig/er
>>1641289This is a fan project, the only thing its killing is himself if they don't have the permission from the IP devs to release the game. Also this gameplay and UI looks like fucking shit, like some really bad MMO, but since is a fan project is more understandable that is like that.
>>1641289is it a full game?
>>1641304Is a fan made game that may or may not have the endorsement of Mica
>>1641289Looks like TPS Valorant/OW. Even has COD game mode.
>>1641306>>1641299trailer have sunborn logo tho
>>1641348This is why some people are saying they are getting some endorsement from Mica, still a fan project that might release under another company
>>1641352the company in question
Lots of Bilibili UP masters are raising concerns about the lack of new 5* male characters for female players.
>>1641366mhy needs to act quickly before losing their loyal customers.
Not even Tencent could escape the DEI trap
>>1641366>>1641367Ok, what if Genshin pulls a twist and makes Nod-Krai mostly male characters? Like, let's say, 5 limited to 3 limited femalesThen what? How would the community react?
>>1641368it's chink, I bet they just lied to get blackrock money.
It would be his nail in the coffin.There is something very curious in Genshin Impact, every time Genshin Impact creates a scandal for some strange reason it affects its other 2 younger brothers HSR and ZZZ, I remember that the 4.8 scandal caused both HSR and ZZZ to leave the top 100 of the app store in CN and Genshin Impact was close to the top 90 although it is currently the only hoyogame that is the most stable now.
>>1641394Well they did hire that pajeet who won an award at The Game Awards.
New Infinity Nikki drama. For their new limited banner they announced a new feature where every 160 rolls you will get a bonus furniture that you can place in the open world to look at or take pictures with. They also announced that players who did 160 rolls in the launch limited banner will also get the bonus furniture. But the problem is that the launch banner has already ended, so if you did say 150 rolls on the first launch banner you can't do extra to get the furniture and are now fucked. People are also complaining that a new veil they're releasing as part of a new banner four-star is very similar to another veil you could buy in the store.Infold Games is once again reminding their players: don't play Infinity Nikki if you're poor, and don't complain if you play.
>we want the snowbreak audience
>>1641471woman moment
>>1641471But poor people can't buy stuff in store thoughIn fact this is actually good for poor people, they get store stuff for free if they roll
>>1641485I think the banner with the veil will be a separate banner with just the two four star outfits, so poor people won't be rolling on it anyway.
[Funny News] A post asking for a collab with Girl's Frontline has caused a huge amount of conflict in the... Delta Force forum. Yes, you read that right. Now Delta Force players are fighting the gacha players because they don't want the toilet that is the gacha community to come to their game.
I still don't understand what Infinity Nikki's target audience is.Most of the players of the franchise that tried to be an imitation of Miku but Chinese and without Miku's magical charm, are mid-range mobile players, however, Nikki is a high-end mobile player and a high-end PC. mobile seems not to be the majority but the PC and the high-end PC is dominated by men, what bothers me about infold games is that it strives to make games for women but it is obvious that to expand the circle they must appeal to men and they do it lying to his audience of women telling them it's a game for them, when that's not the case.
>>1641501Why do they need m*els lads is selling fine
>>1641472nice
>>1641501>>1641506Most people have forgotten this but Shining Nikki used to be embroiled in hanbok controversy in Korea (they claimed it's Chinese) which led to the game EoSing within one month. The fact they're still trying to push Infinity Nikki means it's their flagship IP they won't give up kinda like Mihoyo trying to insert the Honkai IP into everything.
Meanwhile NetEase is leaving their (once huge) Onmyoji IP in the dust. It's about time they invest in a new high budget Onmyoji gacha.
>>1641501In Infinity Nikki's case they were clearly intending it to be a classic mixed toilet where men spend money so women can enjoy the game without trouble, but it came out too late and Infold didn't expect that now the men playing the game just wouldn't spend and will let women pay for them instead. The attempt to expand to a wider playerbase completely failed and Nikki franchise was ruined.
>>1641518No. Just no. Nikki has always been aimed towards women. It's inspired by those classic women dress up games you could find anywhere in the 2000s, with simple gameplay and cutesy activities. The MC is also a self-insert for women. It's far from a mixed toilet.
Because they are obviously expanding the circle, their only successful game is a game that you would see on Nutaku and it is not suitable for multiplatform except for Steam because PS, XBOX, WeGame will not allow the entry of a softporn game.while Nikki's open world, suitable for the whole family, can be advertised abroad as a true game to expand the company's circle of players as mihoyo did with Genshin Impact, which is why they get a rating from IGN and different video game media to advertise outside of China.
Just realize, the thread for Astra Knights of Veda on vmg has been dead for a month and no one even cares enough to make a new one, guess the mixed toilet is officially a dead game now. What the hell happened to it, can any anon give a QRD?Also quite funny, I remember people hyping it up early on because it didn’t have any fanservice, not a game for horny degenerates so I didn’t bother trying it. And now I just checked out the new patch and they’re all malegaze fanservice as fuck, they even make the male faceless.
I played it for a while for the art, my first 5* character after losing 50/50 was a male character and i uninstalled it immediately
>>1641521According to a vg anon the game is barebones with severe lack of content. Greedy monetization (low rates and 50/50) which they finally changed but it was too late. I don't know what's with games trying to copy Mihoyo's gacha system with 1/10th of Mihoyo's quality.
>>1641519It's consensus in Nikki community that Nikki is her own character and not a self-insert, in fact Shining Nikki explicitly separates the player from Nikki by letting you pick your gender and Nikki interacts with you. In fact it can be said Shining Nikki was when Nikki series first started expanding to a bigger audience.
>>1641532Okay, but that was Shining Nikki, wasn't it? Maybe that was the case for Shining Nikki, but >In Infinity Nikki's case they were clearly intending it to be a classic mixed toiletThat feature doesn't exist anymore in Infinity Nikki
>>1641533no but it lets you choose a username and it's explicitly separated from Nikki, Nikki is always called Nikki no matter what name you pick. They don't even let you customize Nikki's body or face because she is supposed to be her own character.
>>1641535They don't let you customize Wise from ZZZ either but people still self-insert into him and imagine all the girls who flirt with him are flirting with them. Customization was never a requirement for self-inserting.
>>1641289what for? snowshit is already dead
>>1641540>Customization was never a requirement for self-inserting.That is correct. What you need for self-inserting is mental illness.
>>1641540Do people still call (you) wise or is that just the "canon" name
>>1641553All the side characters call the main characters Wise and Belle (they are siblings) or Phaeton (their alias). The nickname you typed at the beginning of the game is the name of their alt account.
>>1641550Are you aware normal people have self-inserted into books since they're a thing? Or non-gacha video games? Of course you know that, you're just a troon.
NEW DRAMA in genshin impactapparently, Nerumero shared that the Genshin management told him not to focus on Wuwa too much, and when he said in his stream that he felt more comfortable in the Wuwa community, someone commented, "But you can't make a living without Genshin."what do you think? Is the genshin cc community full of real travelers or fake travelers?
>>1641582I heard zhong va threatened people not to act in wuwa no idea if it's bullshit or not
>>1641582Regardless it's common knowledge that whenever Youtube CCs alternate between Genshin and non-Genshin games (this including other Mihoyo games) their views on non-Genshin content usually drops like a rock.
He was also kicked out of a Private(not sure) Genshin server. Here is a brief summary:"I was removed from the official GI Discord community I was invited to. While I enjoy playing GI and may have made a mistake, I would appreciate any clarification about what went wrong."
>>1641584He threatened people not to act in Snowbreak so it's believable he would do it for Wuwa too.
>>1641588a reminder that during the exodus, Cherno's VA decided to stay and said she wants to stay even if it were to harm her careerCherno is a good girl through and through
Views plummet even in Genshin Impact when AQ ends.I remember that the largest CC in Spain for hoyoverse content Putupau for GI content commented on this: "Once the important story in the GI patch ends, I can only work hard to create content from Genshin because there is nothing to exploit"this is referring to the fact that his viewers were bored with his reaction content videos to Genshin Impact memes.now he makes spaced content between wutherging waves, HSR and genshin impact in the future arknighs enfield and ananta, he doesn't play ZZZ because he doesn't like it, but he says that this is better because it fills the dead patches of Genshin Impact with Wuthering waves and HSR
>>1641582>>1641587mxz is just that crazy, even in bilibili scene, the moment one streamer decided to go against mihoyo he would get harassed and doxxed by dawei's army (see mihachi)
>>1641582copied from /wuwa/>Looks like mihoyo fucked up in japan.>nerumero a huge japanese genshin player started wuthering waves lately and is enjoying it a lot. Thanks to this, he caused more people to be aware of wuwa. this caused him to get a sponsorship opportunity from kuro but mihoyo doesn't like that so they decided to tell him not to shill wuwa any longer and threatened to kick him out of the private content creator server for genshin creators.>This shit was so bad that he finally admits that he feels more welcomed in the wuwa space.>https://x.com/akamasaW/status/1872642480224849983
>>1641618Japanese are the biggest hoyoslurpers anyway, it would need something absolutely catastrophic to even dent a little bit their opinion
>>1641645I honestly don't get why they like Hoyoshit so much considering it's all censored as fuck. Ancient shit like FGO mog it easily.
Mihoyo has apparently started laying off employees. This is not confirmed though.
>>1641582>>1641618Hoyosisters...
>>1641671>Kuro is incliningIt's mixed toilet so I won't bother. I've only played PGR a few years ago but hopefully this means more Nanami porn in some capacity.
in other news WuWa is now taking the cuckege route!
>>1641704except that it's a bad translation, the interview talks about more interaction between the players and the characters, but some EN translators decided to remove the mention of the players to make believe in more character x character interaction in order to push their headcanon to see the rover become a camera
>>1641704Lol, dumbassWe are the God of wuthering waves, everyone is for (You) and it will never change
>>1641716>en tl of a jp tl of cn textSad panda taught me these are shit
>>1641716>>1641720Yeah and Tencent (who owns Kuro btw) going for the DEI route (as we can see with tranny designs like Zani and Brant) doesn't pull any redflags at allhttps://tieba.baidu.com/p/9365380332
>>1641739Tencent owns Shit Up shares.
>>1641739>gender war has already expanded beyond gacha games and is now seeping into normal videogamesNot that unexpected but it's surprising that fucking Delta Force of all things is having people calling for a self-inserting feminist to be fired.
>>1641753good morning saar
>>1641580Yes. Self inserting as anything has been seen as mental illness even before gacha games.
>>1641796Sounds like troon cope.
>>1641739Ok but why do they all have pink/purple hair and want to be center of attention?They can just stay discreet and push their agenda quietly like jews
>>1641798No u. Troon are self inserter, retard. They're inserting themselves to the gender that isn't theirs. Now cope harder.
>>1641910What a weird mental gymnastic.
>>1641910>>1641796>>1641580Stop being retarded and look up what Catharsis means.
[GOOD NEWS] Azur Promillia account just posted for the first time after 6 months
>vtumor JP dramaNobody care.
Citlali PV wasnt well received by the sisters
>>1641975She's correct.
>>1641975But this sounds like a waifufag
>>1641961So what does it say? Anything?
Wonder why is Infinity Nikki in game experience so bad? Turn out Infold poached a planner from Mihoyohttps://tieba.baidu.com/p/9367968514
>>1642047
It’s official. HSR is back for 2025.
>>1642051The women are covered up but the men are shirtless. Truly a mixed toilet.
Looks like Gilgamesh/Dio bait.
>>1642051hello Kevin 2.0, are we doing human instrumentality project again? Haha of course we are, hoyo only knows one endgame scenario and its the EVA one
>>1642051i literally look like this
>>1642051Defend this femorrhoid spammerfag.
>>1642051>no nipplesBlowup dolls are more realistic than this.
>>1642056Of course because men being shirtless is natural.
>>1641645They're infamous for having awfully shit taste in a bunch of stuff, never ever ask them for recommendations.
>>1642122Women wearing revealing clothing when they can is natural too so that's not really an argument.
>>1642133But men staring at women panties is unnatural, which is why the most you can get in hoyo games is cleavage.
>>1642051>No nipplesHeh as usual mihoyo
>>1641961>Azur promilia,Bet. It's mixed toilet or has Femc
>>1642145they already said it will only have girls. What no one knows if they will keep the female mc or not.
>>1642134>But men staring at women panties is unnaturalLol, no. It's like saying heterosexuality is unnatural. Men oogling women is the most natural thing.
>>1642147In gachas, no. They only allow you to see what they want you to see. They only allow you to see cleavage, so that's all you get. This also happens with female-oriented gacha where males have no nipples.
>>1642146But in on other thread (i'm talking on AP thread, anon say that AP it will still feature FeMC and based on AP leaks, welp the FeMC scenario are probably true
Anyway as the JP, KR and CN gachage are sucky as usual and the recent success of MiSide i wish more Russian are starting to make gachage. No Yurishit and CP shit (because homofaggotry are banned in russia) and make Russia the best asiatic nation
>>1642150they're just shitposting, the internal beta they did apparently didn't even have story. we won't know until Manjuu releases a second trailer.
>>1642152Hmmm okay. Thanks for answering my concern
The animation of Genshin Impact will probably be delayed.https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=42862993
>>1642051>meanwhile the femalesHopefully people will now realize why they're called Homoverse.
>>1642051>>1642097LMAO, the GBF specialDoes anyone have that image about it?
>>1642161Ofc it will, ufotable right now is full doing the 3 movies of kimetsuslop
>>1642184The definition of sterile design.
Not sure if it truly counts as gacha drama but western GFL fans are currently trying to start a fight with anyoneAll because someone disliked the redesign of the new character
>>1642239You talking about this?
>>1642242yes
>>1642239From what I've seen it's gfl dabbing on a cunnykek from /bag/
>>1642254Really? Everywhere I looked people are just making fun of gfltards for making a mountain out of a molehill
>>1642239To be fair they turned the loli into a flat grandma.Not worth a fight but I wouldn't call it a good redesign.
>>1642239I dont like loli characters but the design in the right looks like some feminist self-insert
>>1642265>round glasses = feminist self-insertkeep overusing that word and it won't mean anything soon enoughwhy does reddit insist on running literary everything into the ground?
>>1642271You dont have to go and clean Mr.Raymond semen from Daiyan body or something like that GLFcuck?
>>1642279>dude gets told to stop beating a dead horse>finds a deader horse to beatfascinating
>>1642161I fucking hate cringetsu no pagba like it's unreal
>>1642239Jimmy (one of their main artists) is an absolute BOOBA enjoyer and basically, cunnykeks are on permanent suicide watch.
>>1642161>genshincucks think Ufotable will prioritize their slop over Kimetsu and Mahoyolmao
>>1642097what are you crying about xis? playable femorrhoids shouldn't even exist so just be grateful
>>1642161Anime adaptions of gacha games fucking suck, just look at that dreck called BA the Animation. .
>>1642255what place was talking about it? /bag/?
>>1642559The only good thing about BA anime is the OP.
>>1642242>Sarushit getting replacedWhat seems to be the problem?
>>164224210 years progression perhaps?
The big 3
>>1642678The legendary Mingchao and Dust White Forbidden Zone.
>>1642678HSRbros ZZZbros....
HoK World tieba sub also banned 2 dimensional game discussion
>>1642678>>1642688Chinkcels got kicked out of their home turf?What's happening here
>>1642688This is odd considering HoK has manga skin line and literal Jujutsu Kaisen collab
>>1642688Honor of Kings has always sucked anyway
>>1642184>intergalactic science fantasy>every female dresses the same As expected from a company that can only plagiarise designs from other games
>>1642688>we don't want any chinkcel sperging out in our subGood for them.
The HSR community might be entering a civil war. Players are getting tired of how women are censored while men aren't, they think Mihoyo is shafting straight men. The complaints are getting louder and the water temperature is rising. There are apparently three male banners coming after 3.0 and some people are already saying that HSR will be getting its own Sumeru.Will be interesting to see what happens to HSR next year. Will this mixed toilet self-destruct?
>>1642688this is being done because of what happened to the Delta Force tieba btw. gacha drama is starting to spill outside the gacha circle, for example these are comments on Netease's upcoming open world game Where Winds Meet.
>>1642814As HSR player, I'll wait for how the story play out. Pre-3.2 Sumeru is somewhat enjoyable when it came out, then le retard tree happen and it all going shit, "year of Sumeru male" is just males keep appearing in the story while MOST females just a side bitch. If it happen again, I'll quit HSR and any mhy related games for good.
>>1642814lmaoEarlier I saw a post on Xitter about a random user complaining about this disparity going viral. I wonder if it's only a thing in the western side.Either way anyone playing this shit deserves this and more.
>>1642839Was this one?The comments are really good. With many calling out the hypocrisy of women, fujos and trannies.
>>1642892Yeah that one. Saw all sorts of mental gymnastics from the homos.
>>1642892>censors zzz>then does thisAs expected of Mihomo.
>>1642892Clearly this is unfair. They need to make Phainon's tits jiggle as well.
Mihoyo is jumping on UE5 hype train
>>1643005Tim Sweeney wins again
I remember someone said dawei wanted nasu to let him put gil into hsr x fate collab but nasu declined so now dawei just made his own gilWonder how would nasu feel about this
The bingo of mihoyo
>a lot of ppl in the snowbreak comments are mad because the shadow NPC are possibly male >NGA seem to think this is a nothing burger and are making fun of the "extremist" ML players that demand no males at allhttps://ngabbs.com/read.php?tid=42850028
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1NXCBYPEAh/So far star traveler doesnt have any memorable design. Can they surpass BA with this?
>>1643030>FEMC >When /BAG/ggots are anti-yurilol no, maybe that thing can kill Heavens burn red
ToF got their Elysia now
>>1643015>what nasu thinkDats pretty gay, Dawei-san.
After "reviving" ZZZ hoyo has decided to make genshit and its players the laughing stock again, contrary to all the leaks before, the archon and forgetable waifubait #3 banners only last for 3 weeks instead of full patch AND majority of the free gems coming with the patch is only given out after their banners endSuffice to say genshitters get what they deserve
>>1643049I heard zzz's foxgirl c0 powercrept c6 of the sharkgirl. Looks like they are going the hsr powecreep route.
>>1643049They're desperate for the players to spend on the first phaseI gave a quick look and looks like all the good events with primos are on the second phase, in the first only 3 trash fodder events, kek
>>1643051>actually, the skin don't need to have special SFX effects because I can imagine them!Wtf? Seriously are they in these levels of bootlicking?
>>1643054See the like count
It seems like AK new female had caused some controversy among players
>>1643058>is this Endfield or snow break?
>>1643058censorship status?
>>1643058It's crazy to me that they forget what's audience they've cultivated.
>>1643085>It's crazy to me that they forget what's audience they've cultivated.sometimes I feel like Ak had a fanbase that they didn't want to havei thinks AK wants to do like the other gacha (example with CH'en Alter they wanted to start making summer alt) but unfortunately for them they attracted a fanbase that thinks they are different and superior to the other gacha, so every time they try to do something that all the other gacha do, they get drama
Any chinkbros here? Are the Chinese happy about HSR going full worms or it's just 4chan having a meltdown? Like 80% of /hsrg/ are just doomposting and other generals shitting on the game.
>>1643088Lol, no.It's just one of their failed attempts at attracting unironic coomer audiences. Just remember who they had collab with, they're omnipandering company through and through.
>>1643122Most of Mihoyo's communities are strictly controlled, the money you spend on the game will be used to shut you up if you ever complain about anything, so you won't see meltdowns unless Mihoyo fucks up so hard that it can't be covered up such as the Neuv nerf. Besides, Genshin is currently the drama target because of how they're trying to milk the playerbase by breaking their own rules and having two new banners in the first half and making most of the free rolls be on the second half.
Anti Wuwa Tieba sub is threatening to dox wuwa players on new patch day
>>1643060In the end snoggers won
Mihoyo has commented on a 3 year old post of theirs to explain that the rules have been changed and now the character event 2 banner can also have new characters. Looks like revenue has fallen too much.
>>1643051>I can imagine the special effectsActual cult-like behavior.>>1643123Agreed. Play dumb games get dumb prizes.>>1643143kek
It's funny how snowbreak changed the entire perspective of the vision of these son-of-a-bitch developers from China after Genshin Impact tricked them.Even though I don't like the game because it's terrible on mobile (I think it's the worst game to play on mobile) it somehow sneaks into the top of mobile applications before its incident with censorship and sabotage that it received, barely spent on advertising and somehow spread faster by word of mouth than other games in the same situation, it is not surprising that enfield wants to eat in a way where they do not have to demand so much of themselves. Yeah The player base that plays Snowbreak is more basic than people think, they just need sexy girls and they save a lot of advertising costs
>>1643153>after Genshin Impact tricked themGenshit's first banner was venti the twink. 1.x had more male than female banners. I don't see how you can be "tricked" into playing unless you're a full on retard.
>>1643143that's what you get for shitting out femorrhoid flops lole>that retard coping that it's to speed up rerunsthere's nothing stopping them from copying shart rail's quad banners or doing more chronicled banners
Listen damn faggot Genshin Impact is a game that fooled everyone from the anime fantasy perspective to the open world as a selling point.What Genshin Impact did was build an intellectual property based on the environment of the time (covid-19), which gave them an advantage for being revolutionaries and pioneers in the technology of that time, taking advantage of their loneliness to expand the circle based on 200m in advertising per year and external developers believe that the key to Genshin Impact is to tone down the playable models because it attracts a "broad" audience (GFL2 for example initially censored the game when it was released on CN), what caused was the opposite effect, people were not buying the safe style of Genshin Impact if there are no advertising expenses in Madison Square Garden to attract normies.If you don't have money for advertising, how do you reach the normies? If there is no covid-19 to make 500% of what you invested in the development of the game, you only have to resort to the basics, Genshin Impact is a deception in a crude way, because if it were released now in 2024 (no covid) it would be a huge flop.
>>1643153>it somehow sneaks into the top of mobile applicationsnever happened stupid tranny. snowshit's best month was its anniversary month which only made ~10m. that's not even enough to break into the top 20 lmao
It has been in the top 20 several times since it started to change despite being a very poorly optimized game for mobiles, in fact in the last quarterly report until November, Kingsoft reported that snowbreak's contribution was close to 80m dollars ( 3 months) with hardly any advertising expenses and low maintenance budget, which translates into greater profitability.A low IQ faggot like you would not understand the concept of profitability, which is what these faggot developers who realized the trap called Genshin Impact are pursuing.
>>1643157It still released with more females if you consider the standard banner.
>because if it were released now in 2024 (no covid) it would be a huge flop.And yet, whatever you say theres still tons of gachas that double down on toning down the playable models and adding more guys see >>1636921 or picrel.
>>1643153Snowbreakers greatest skill has been the ability to constantly rewrite history
>It has been in the top 20again, never happened you lying tranny. not on the gacha revenue charts and definitely not on overall charts either>Kingsoft reported that snowbreak's contribution was close to 80m dollarsthey never did that. that's only the guesswork of a snowflake on redditthey apparently released their popular MMO on mobile platforms this year so claiming that the growth in revenue is because of snowshit is retarded
>>1643191And despite being such a big "success", Mumu had to once again apologize that he couldn't man Snowbreak himself because Kingsoft wanted to him to focus his attention on making Mechabreak instead.
>>1643192Err, might of been chongchong. Either one of the chinks.
>>1643191>again, never happened you lying tranny. not on the gacha revenue charts and definitely not on overall charts eitherFuck off.
The only faggot here who doesn't know shit is you https://notice.10jqka.com.cn/api/pdf/a2d4f6939dba0a37.1732006085.pdf?client_userid=P5Lql&back_source=hyperlink&share_hxapp=isc&fontzoom=no.It's a fucking retarded fact that all these developers go back to basics when looking for profitability because releasing worms and female characters made for women are low profitability, worms consume huge advertising expenses and female characters are reduced to being pleasant to the eye. look from a niche audience like jimei are not profitable.You will see more and more developers try the snowbreak route, even your genshit has slowly moved to the coom route, placing shit like citlali and giving physics to Mauvika's ass, it is not an opinion, it is a fact
>>1643191Kingsoft did report that Snowbreak was making bank. I await your next mental gymnastics.
>>1643196You are a homosexual and an incel.
By the way, to make it hurt more faggot, Arknights Endfield apparently has a dating system similar to Wuthering Waves rinascita Bongola , there are no details because this information comes from a leaker, so if you like Gathering Wives, you will like Wives Enfield, suffer fucking tranny trash.
snowbreak.. WON! https://revenue.ennead.cc/
>>1643194actually retarded. it's 21st. that's not in the top 20
>>1643200Yeah i'm thinking it's over for female-only mlfags.
>>1643196morgan stanley isn't kingsoft retardxisbesides, journos often praise BA when talking about nexon's financial reports despite their MMOs doing the heavy lifting
All I know is that females in gacha games are getting sexier and sexier and trash worms are getting feweeer. I love seeing how the target audience of worms suffer because of snowbreak even if that game is poorly optimized garbage.
>>1643200wuwa is a gigaflop. your point is?waifutrooncels are broke. no amount of pandering will make trannies get jobs
suffer fucking faggot arknights enfield is now ours
>tranny ran out of copes to pretend xis shitty game is making moneykekall i know is that snowshit flopped, is flopping, and will never stop flopping
>>1643200>Imagine the gameplay so alienable for 90% gachafag that arknots end:shit add dating system to entice gachafagIf dating system added to the base gachage (Arknightk). I rejoin again just for sake gravel and Plati-chan (6 star ops can go fuck yourself)
>>1643200Wuwa went mlpandering and is flopping tho
shocking enough to make every developer at CN open their eyes, tranny trash... let's play concord, oh wait.
>>1643208Atleast we have miside tho.
troons, jimei and faggots in shambles, this is cinema LMAO
Anyway. Why the heck Arknots detour into coomer route? I thought they offer no coomer fanservice
>>1643224The game is flopping.
>>1643207>actually count the rankings.lmao. And you’re the retard who can’t see that like half the games in the top 20 are mobile-only while SB and others have PC+console clients, even the SB devs said 70% of their revenue came from PC.
>>1643224Companies really like to treat their existing audience like cucks and pander to outsiders thinking they can attract more people and cucks will pay regardlessFor a waifu game this means censoring the girls and adding shirtless menFor a homo game it means coom lol
Apparently AK IP want to expand, they discovered that common people don't like characters dressed like Concord and female players are angry because they lost the battle for change the Yvonne sexy design but who cares about feminists in 2024? Enjoy the food
>>1643224It's not like they were ever fully against it. They had some operatives and costumes showing skin before. They just ended up attracting the loud minority.
>>1643202>Fellow Moon>$1,925,000>Guilongchao>$825,000LOL.LMAO even.
>>1643218Too bad ziggers aren't smart enough to capitalize on that.
>>1643232> because they lost the battle for change the Yvonne sexy designYou haven't read the last thread? Her current design is the censored version, just go back to see her old uncensored illus.
What was modified was the 2D art and it wasn't even censorship only schizophrenics would see it that way the 2D art model was rendered, they are crying because the character is "coomer" you can visit the comments section in bilibili or their main subreddit they are crying because Yvonne it's too "Azur Lane" lol
Is he right?
>>1643275He seems annoyed by a ever so slightly attractive female character but understanding of the reasons why, he might be a fag but he's ok
>>1643275He's wrong because hoyo is topping the charts. Normalfags don't want to play coomer games
>>1643275I don't understand how normalfags will be find with these games being heavily anti-consumer but draw a line when it comes to fanservice. The last decade of brainwashing really did a number on them.
>>1643275Now delete the faggy males and remove the feMC.
>>1643286Just play snowbreak bwo
>>1643028>Malding about literal shadow NPCWhat the
>>1643275Coom content was always the main draw of gacha. Even those JP idol gachas have some level of fan service. It's true that it's becoming more and more prominent tho.
>>1643275He's somewhat correct, but the thing is sexual pandering in gacha games won't bring you very far because the thing with porn addiction is you'll start craving for more degenerate stuff, so those players will continue pushing the devs to push the boundaries of censorship laws to satisfy their ever-increasing tolerance/desensitization to sex. First they demand cleavage, then they'll demand visible panties, then sexual innuendo stroking phallic objects, then the touch ass feature, then "struggle" in bed, until Chinese government eventually steps in and kicks the company to the curb.The more damning thing is that the relationship with their "waifus" is entirely based on quick sexual gratification. It's shallow. Unlike typical blooming romance where you slowly cultivate love after going through thick and thin with the heroine (think of classic JRPG romances), modern gacha "waifus" are entirely replaceable with real porn. So at some point you wonder why would you spend money on Chinese-censored waifu gacha when porn is free and AI will soon be able to generate your own porn?
>>1643287YWNBAW
>>1643228>b-but the invisible pc saleslole 70% of CN's gaming revenue comes from mobile
>>1643312>webmIs that what snowcels throw money at? Lmao
They consume both because not everyone likes explicit porn but rather fetishistic and inductive porn, you are very stupid if you don't know the purchasing power capacity of a single man without commitments, it is the reason why in the Japanese porn industry there are so many fetishes of Which you don't have the slightest idea, because there is a market for everything since men there became herbivores, and slowly the same thing is happening with the West.
>>1643316>its not true because I say so and it does not fit my narrativeBack to /gig/ with you
>>1643209lmao arent you the one who argues that your shitty r/gachagaming meme charts are legit because they're made by professional analysts? so shitty ai scraping websites have credentials but MORGAN STANLEY doesn't? lol
>>1643356That's right! This is probably a report made by an incel from MS. If the us government said "flat earth is real" are you going to believe it?
>>1643341Fetishes are fetishes because they are niche and not always explicit in nature. Selling fetishes works when lonely single men can spend thousands of dollars to get additional content (such as camgirls or OF girls) but no game will ever reach top spot from selling interactive skin capped at $30 for a specific kind of fetish. That's why games (including Mihoyo) tend to only do safe horny while sprinkling fetishes here and there. They never go Snowbreak-tier of coompandering because they know selling to the wider audience has always and will always be more profitable. So while it's true that sex does sell to a certain degree, extreme fanservice is very shortsighted in nature. There's a reason why softcore porn (which is what Snowbreak basically is) are always indie flops and cannot compete against both hardcore porn and real movies. Name me just one famous softcore movie. You can't.
Do you think Hoyoverse will survive in 2025?
You're missing the point, these people aren't just looking to masturbate with visual stimulation.They seek to feel emotionally linked to these products in different expressive ways in art and modeling, Da Wei called them characters virtual idols in the kancolle/vocaloid era.The objective is to sell these loners known as "otakus" an illusion based on their age, the younger ones liked sexy and assertive girls but otherwise the middle-aged preferred young girls, affectionate personality, the well-called "moe ". the ability of these loners to consume these types of illusions that are not necessarily explicit is what makes this market profitable, because selling the illusion acts as a drug similar to porn. It is the same as addicts who consume cocaine, marijuana, and fentanyl, parakeet, brick, glue, etc. Even though they all act or are directly drugs, for consumers they do not have the same sensation and effect depending on the person, so they will consume everything because the flavor is different enough for their palates and the offer is enormous.
NetEase's list of future games>Coming soonWhere Winds Meet (燕云十六声), January 9th mobile, CN serverFragpunk (界外狂潮) March 7th client, global synchronizationOnce Human (七日世界) April mobile, global synchronization>Open reservationPro Evolution Soccer OL client, expected in February>Temporarily on hold零号任务,破碎之地>Agent头号追击>Under development墟土之争AnantaAlso, there is "Codename: Strange Journey" that should collide with MHY's Animal Crossinghttps://shql.163.com/
>>1643367Of course, but it's very likely that their genshin revenue will go down further like the trend of this year, so I really want to see what gymnastics they will pull for the next yearThey already started by releasing less males, adding more fanservice like Mavuika's ass jiggle physics and (You) pandering with Citlali
>>1643368No, I think you're the one missing the point here. Choice is still a factor. Due to the constraints of time and money (you can't just say single men has limitless resources because that just doesn't track with reality) most people only have time/money to spare with several gachas (at most) and they still have to divide depending on needs. Hence given the choice of >High non-sexual appeal, but low sex appeal (most games out there, Mihoyo's games, Limbus Company, etc)>Low non-sexual appeal, but high sex appeal" (Nikke, Snowbreak, GFL2)>Straight up pornThe ultimate winners would be the 1st and 3rd category, with the 2nd stuck in the middle unable to beat neither the 1st category (because they've cultivated a community that's obsessed with sex) and the 3rd category (because they're still bound by censorship laws that forbid them from going all the way).
>>1643377bunch of two-faced fucks
>Ananta recruits UI designers, experience in MMO projects is preferred>On one hand, it reveals that the improvement of the mobile game interface is being promoted>on the other hand, it is hoped that the recruitment of game interface designers with MMO project experience shows the game most likely has certain MMO elements, and multiplayer online will be an important way to play the game
>>1643377Releasing two new characters at the same time is already a desperate move. Most people can only afford one.
>>1643383>MMOgachaToF 2
This is not an opinion, it is a reality, there are more herbal men in 2024 than in 2023. Herviboros men are those who have lost hope in finding a real relationship but that does not mean that they are useless, they enter society, they know that they will never meet the expectations of a woman in real life and they give up on flirting. , which is why in their leisure time they prefer to spend thousands of dollars on two-dimensional characters of different types from snowbreak style characters to Blue Archive style characters.I'm not making this up, practically the market is showing you and these developers know it, that's why they are able to revive themselves monetarily when they are more accommodating with the drug called "virtual relationship" before these relationships were fostered through social dating networks and chat in the year 2000-2010. but now they are promoted through the cult of fandom, lonely people buy an AI that satisfies that is a idol through their mobile phone and tells them what they want to hear, they sell them emotional filling while they are at work, it is easy to understand. When snowbreak does what it does to resurrect in CN, the message it sends is that the solitaire market that was thought to be extinct is not only alive, but is booming again, the Chinese government also knows it, because young people don't want each other marry, that is why they censor games like snowbreak to discourage drug use.
>>1643386Since you're veering off the main topic of discussion, this will be my last reply.
>>1643377Genshin is reaching its 5th year. Just the fact they've been able to stay on top for so long is already a miracle in itself.Personally I quit Genshin because the exploration gameplay is too tedious and repetitive.The characters they release has got little to do with why their revenue is falling.
I am not arguing, I am presenting facts.The market moves where the potential consumer exists and does not stop growing. Do you think the decrease in male characters in Genshin Impact and another gachas is a coincidence? Da Wei believes that the new young loners can be his new base for Genshin Impact and all games developers they believe the same.
>>1643388that or envy
>>1643388They will consciously install Mihoyo's next game
>>1643388>people hate hoyo because they were disappointed by the direction their games tookWell, yeah. Obviously.
>>1643385More like coop components.>>1643398Didn't install neither HSR nor ZZZ.
>>1643356where are the hard numbers xis? nexon's own reports show contribution per region and their CN mobile sales (mostly DFO and other MMOs, CN BA exists but it's a gigaflop) are around 10x of their JP mobile sales (BA's biggest market) but journos and even nexon itself praises BA for mediocre "achievements"therefore, the most logical conclusion is that kingsoft's MMO is doing the heavy lifting especially since it was also released on mobile platforms this year
>>1643377the biggest dip in revenue happened in the year of femorrhoid flops xister2021>2022>2023 can be attributed to natural decline but there's nothing natural about dropping from 8 to 22 in just a year >>1639961
Seems like LAD is getting huge update tomorrowWould be fun to see this and Genshin + Wuwa compete on iOS chart
Has Infinity Nikki added slutty costumes yet?
>misideI don't get it anon. Single cursory view about it states it is not a gacha game so I don't see why this one or two anon felt the need to shill it.
>>1643395>Da Wei believes that the new young loners can be his new base for Genshin ImpactAnd how is pivoting to incel demographics working out for all these games?>all games developers they believe the sameHOK and DNF say otherwise. Coomer pandering gacha games is but a segment of the entire mobile games market pie.
>>1643395Gaming companies misread trends all the time. They're always years behind. That's why you got Concord.
>>1643412Concord exists explicitly because of DEI meddling.
>>1643415How about Dustborn
>>1643416That one was funded by the government through taxes. The game is so absurd it looks like satire.
>>1643406>Wuwa >competeOnly ones to watch are LADS and Genshin, and maybe the HSR's position after the livestream.
tencent also believes the same that is because they invested in Mingchao, put that cover game in its WeGame launcher with several offers for its users for patch 2.0. and a lot of advertise in ASIANetease believes the same, which is because they invests in Ananta.Hypergriph believes the same with enfield adding things that theur base player doesn't like.Concord is just a mental illness of USA, Without a market base from the beginning, only a mentally ill person would believe that thing would be successful, Americans are mentally screwed, they need sanatoriums back.
>>1643410>And how is pivoting to incel demographics working out for all these games?This is more because the so called incels are smarter than you give them credit for and didn't believe Dawei's crocodile tears. And they were right considering what happened to ZZZ and is happening in HSR.Mihoyo has dug themselves into a situation with no way out after Sumeru and Fontaine. They will keep losing revenue no matter who they appeal to now. The real question should be how far will it drop.
>>1643403wrong link
>therefore, the most logical conclusion is no one cares about your copes or headcanons, I take STANLEY MORGAN's word over the word of a mentally ill gay Dutchman
>>1643418Yeah we can also mention AS Shadows, Outlaws, Intergalactic, etc all made by people who are out of touch from the gaming community. Point is big game companies were never a good indicator for gaming trends. Just because big company does a thing doesn't mean that is the trend.
>>1643426The two examples you picked are terrible because these games weren't made by following trends. Everyone is basically screaming at devs to stop sabotaging themselves with politics.
>>1643423even outside of hoyoslop, waifuflop simulators are flopping though? flopping harder than zzz, the worst selling mihoyo game, even
>>1643428Did you forget how those devs (and their higher ups) considered gamer complaints as "irrelevant noise"? They certainly felt pronouns and nonbinary were trending. Everyone and their mother had she/they in their bio.
>>1643425just post snowshit's hard numbers xis. it's that simple you're the one going against the grain here because chinese MMOs outsell waifuflop simulators by a massive margin
>>1643430if waifus are flopping and worms sell why did genshin stop releasing worms and started releasing more and more waifus do they not have access to their own sales data
I don't have numbers nor do I pretend to have them, I simply trust a major financial institution like Stanley Morgan to be more knowledgeable on the topic than a mentally ill gay Dutchman on 4chan with a grudge against waifus because his favorite gacha developer stopped releasing new husbandos for him to enjoy
hoyo doesn't care because their 3 games are top 1, top 2 and top 3 that continue to win more than the rest when the multiplatform is combined.but they are slowly washing out their player base until only mxz are left and the new one replaces the old base to become the mxz coomer, the success of genshin impact and the old numbers can't be replicated anymore without covid-19.
Mihoyo is simply losing their grip on the high budget 3D gacha market because people have more options now. Analyses that chose to only focus on gender wars are missing the point.
they already got it, that's the point, they can no longer brainwash those who are tired or realized their strategy, so only the pro-hoyo (cult) mxz remain. So they choose to brainwash the new potential players who enter the preparation schools or the university, the ones who will be the new mxz and for that they have to accustom them to their "roots" given that the new gacha games target the same player base.
so just like the coping soiflake redditard claiming snowshit made 80m, you're just doing guesswork based on nothing. meanwhile, everything i said was based on existing datagood to know the savior of gachas flopped xis
I am not making guesswork, I am trusting STANLEY MORGAN's opinion on the matter. The only coper here is a seething gay Dutchman that spams this general 20 hours a day because Fat Xiao only gives him a single new faggot a year to jerk off to.
> STANLEY MORGAN> guesses based on gachagamingYes, i prefer to believe Stanley Morgan like a normal human being would.
I don't believe it either. This is like "According to Forbes" and then you look at the writer and it's Paul Tassi.
>>1643442wuwa+zzz+genshin+hsr make less money now than genshin alone used to
> compare Morgan Stanley with Paul Tassi.yes, you are definitely not a normal human being.
>>1643454People simply moved on
>>1643455He's not comparing him to Stanley Morgan, he is saying someone might be misattributing the analysis to Stanley Morgan. I personally disagree, if that was the case, I'm sure our mentally ill gay Dutchman here would have nitpicked it by now.
Since knowing the real number is impossible, we'll just have to wait for Mecha Break since apparently they're going all-in on it. Marketing budget should be interesting to see.
no numbers = snowshit flopped.if shitting out femorrhoids is what it takes to kill hoyosloppa then they can shit them out for all i care loleone way or another troonwei would've use that money to push xis waifuslop agenda (eg funding more goonerslop like zzz) so the cash cow dying is the best case scenario i know you're losing the argument but damn are you desperate lmao
See? He went back to spamming preprogrammed NPC lines, if there was any fault in the Stanley Morgan analysis I'm sure he would have brought it up by now. He's probably been replying so slowly lately because he's been desperately digging through it until now.
>>1643456but people wouldn't have moved on if they didn't shit out femorrhoids. that's the point
>>1643466Nice cope
>>1643466The homo age is coming to an end. Accept it and move on.
>>1643466but if waifus don't sell but worms do why did they stop releasing wormswhy did everyone else stop releasing worms toowhy did wuwa stop releasing worms and releases mostly waifusdo none of these companies have access to their own sales data and not know what you know
>>1643442Top 3 games are still all Mihoyo because competition isn't quite there yet. None of these next-gen competitor games are even released except wuwaMihoyo is bleeding because their creative process, and by extension quality standards, couldn't survive the change in company culture.Everything they make now is lame and gay, they try different directions or pander to different groups and none of it works because their shit just sucks: imagine if Honkai 3 part 2 had less competition, would it succeed? Of course not, that shit doesn't appeal to anyone. It's simply bad, like most Mihoyo products nowadaysThe lack of competition is precisely the reason why they still retain the #1 spot despite all of the above. They still are the only option. When actual competition kicks in Mihoyo are gonna drop like nothing any of you faggots seen before>>1643454>wuwa+zzz+genshin+hsrAll of these in their current state are a worse experience than Genshin 1.0Normally you'd expect quality standards to go up over time with games needing to be better and better to retain the same sales. The actual quality of chink gacha was on a steady decline in 2022-2024The flopping makes perfect sense and is well deserved
>>1643465So I just looked it up and much of the Stanley Morgan analysis (that Kingsoft is rated overweight) is due to the fact that Xiaomi just established a partnership with Kingsoft Cloud for AI services.The article also mention strong performance on gaming business, but according to Kingsoft's third quarter results https://ir.kingsoft.com/static-files/a83397ae-fbb1-4a50-b904-1b11ddb27abb?form=MG0AV3 it was mainly attributed to the success of JX3 Online and the newly-launched JX3 Ultimate which exceeded expectations.So it's not Snowbreak.
post. the. numbers. "strong revenue contribution" is inconclusive but based on existing data, MMOs brutally mog waifuflop simulators and it's not even closethe burden of proof is on you because are putting a waifuflop simulator on the same level as MMOs going by your interpretation regardless of said trends
>>1643475Interesting. Mind posting the link to Stanley Morgan analysis?
>>1643476but if waifus are flopping and worms sell why does genshin release six new waifus for every worm do they not know worms sell better for some reason?
>>1643480So assuming >>1643196 by "AAstocks" is our source, you can Google "aastocks kingsoft morgan stanley" and click the first link because the link is not secure.
>>1643483I did that but the only thing that sites provides is a short summary, I might be retarded but I can't see the link to proper review
>>1643486Yeah, now that you mention it they're all secondhand reports.
>retards going through AI-generated corpo fluff hoping to find useful informationlol
I like how the idea of Snowbreak doing well made this thread go into overdrive. It's usually about 5 posts per day.
>>1643467again, the game dropping from 8 to 22 after a year of shitting out femorrhoids is far from the natural decline you're trying to paint is as >>1638386you're free to cope and believe whatever waifutroon-friendly narrative you made up but facts are facts xis
>>16434912 people are responsible for 80% of the posts
>>1643492facts are facts indeedfact#1: i get six waifusfact#2: you get one worm
Morgan Stanley's analysis is exclusively for clients. That means >>1643475 is our only real firsthand source.
>>1643496>AI-powered digital assistant for research discoveryIt actually is AI slop lmao
>>1643488so the bottomline is that the only official data says that kingsoft's MMO did the heavy lifting after all, to the surprise of no one but waifutrooncels
The gay Dutchman is conveniently forgetting about >>1643196
>>1643491Snowbreak is only 1% of the gacha market but occupies 80% of peoples' headspace.
>>1643491It's the anti-waifu spammer, and honestly, I'm getting tired of xim
just how desperate is this tranny lolekingsoft said it themselves. JX won. snowshit didn't even get an honorary mention in the report
Does the gay Dutchman believe this random AI scrapper website giving summations of various documents decided to add Snowbreak on its own to the Stanley Morgan analysis? Or is he trying to ignore it altogether only to focus on the unrelated Kingsoft report that does not mention Snowbreak by name?
>k-kingsoft's official website i-is le fakelmaotruly a containment zone for the most mentally ill rejects in life
Ah, that settles it, the gay Dutchman is trying to ignore the Stanley Morgan report entirely and pretend it doesn't exist.
both are talking about kingsoft's third quarter in 2024. one is official and hashard numbers, the other is from a third party and is le sekritsince you're so confident in morgan stanley's report, surely you're a client and can share the full data with us xis? see >>1643496
I am not a client, I simply choose to believe the random AI scraper site giving a summation of Stanley Morgan analysis mentions Snowbreak because the Stanley Morgan analysis mentions Snowbreak. Do you disagree? Do you perhaps believe this "aastocks" website is secretly owned by Snowbreak fans and intentionally provides misinformation?
>k-kingsoft's official website i-is le fakeno hard numbers = snowshit flopped. this is why you shouldn't use invisible data to cope. you don't even know if those numbers even favor your narrative kekchances are your invisible numbers will arrive at the same conclusion kingsoft did. JX won
Unable to address any claims, the gay Dutchman goes back to spamming preprogrammed NPC lines.
snowshit flopped and the sunk cost tranny just can't accept facts
Why are you pagpags obsessed with Snowbreak, a random no name gacha game that barely makes 1-2 million?Why does the name Snowbreak break your minds and cause you to get so angry?It makes no sense unless you hate straight men or something.
>>1643491I love watching the ‘waifuflopper femmorroid xis’ guy seethe with hatred because of snowbreak lol. I have to give snoggers credit
even if the snowbreak goes eos it will live on eternally in your head rent free because it was responsible for the entire gacha market realizing waifus are the way to go and no one wants the flopping worms anymore lol
>>1643534snowbreak was directly responsible for killing the mixed toilet meme and forcing devs to pander to either straight men or straight women, the two primary gacha demographicsthis makes homosexuals seethe with anger since neither of these types of games suits them, they want mixed toilets because faggot shit is only acceptable in mixed toilets while waifu and otome games want nothing to do withjust look at love and deepspace, its a game that literally bans all faggot shit and tells faggota and fujos the game is not for them and they should fuck off lol
Plz stop shitting on snowbreak :(((((((((
if only you rolled for wormney wormthesley and wormich maybe you would have gotten more than one worm a year loltoo bad you are too busy yapping online about waifus to get a job to actually swipe for your worms lol
>>1643534saying snowshit flopped is stating a fact xis. it's not that deep this discussion only happened because a snowshitter was pretending his game isn't a gigaflop lole >>1643153
no the only reason the discussion is happening is because a mentally ill gay dutchman lets snowbreak live in his head rent free because that game is responsible for genshin only giving him a single new worm a year lol
>only limited female banners, againWormbros...
>b-b-but genshitgenshit is dying after shitting out femorrhoids and that's a good thing. better late than never loleyou're desperate to win but this is impossible because you have no numbers to show, so your only option is to make up headcanons to pretend you're winning. pathetic tranny lole
>>1643559I don't understand, why do they keep releasing waifus? Have they not seen the thousand or so posts written every week on 4chan that waifus don't sell? Why do they keep doing it!?
>>1643561its not a headcanon to say i get six new waifus for every new worm you get lol thats a factual reality
>p-pls believe my invisible numbers >releasing a brand new 5* with the archon is definitely not a sign that the game is dying...
neither is saying that your femorrhoids flopped xis lole if they release more males, i win. if they shit out more femorrhoids and keep on flopping, i win. simple as
theyre not invisible numbers lol everyone can see how many characters they released in 2024 and how many were waifus and how many were wormsdid you even get a single 5 star worm besides wormich this year? wormthesley was last year, right lol
or they keep releasing six new waifus for every new worm and straight men keep winning while you keep schizobabbling on 4chan how the waifus are definitely flopping (yet they keep making them!? strange!?)
everyone can also see how hard they've been flopping xista>at least a -62% drop in sales, likely biggeryikes
Reading the thread almost makes you wish for a gacha containment board
sounds like they need to release even more waifus and even fewer worms then lolhow does one worm every other year sound lolmaybe if you needed to wait two years for a new worm you would not let the worm flop like how you let wormich the worst selling natlan 5 star flop lol
>>1643574we are in one
>>1643574being a waifutroon is the very definition of mental illnessno wonder they can't even get jobs to pay for their femorrhoid flops
>>1639096>yet games like Snowbreak and GFL2 aren't exactly fluorishing.I don't see how these games are related to people abandoning Genshit.
if waifu lovers are poor then worm lovers must be literally homeless lol considering waifus outsell worms so much companies release six new waifus for every single worm
>>1643580if not those games then what? waifuflop simulators didn't see huge spikes in sales despite waifutroons supposedly quitting genshin
you keep saying waifus are flopping yet games with both waifus and worms are abandoning worms and focusing on waifus isn't that strangeif waifus were killing genshin why did kuro not seize the opportunity to steal genshins audience by releasing six worms in a row but instead they released six waifus in a row and gave away a worm for free
>>1643567Uhh.. the fact that you’ve been on this thread for months using the same phrases arguing over ‘waifuflops’ makes you the definition of a loser
>giving snowseether attentionyou folks aren't going to make it in 2025
Snoggers truly won
>>1643587I dropped Genshit when I saw the censored piece of shit that was Dehya. Why would I go to another censored game (Snowbreak) or a mixed toilet cuckbait that has a FeMC (GFL2)? Genshit unironically radicalized me.
>>1643605>censored game (Snowbreak)You do know about the hidden mechanics, right?
>>1643610Does that cover both waves of censorship? If not then I don't care.
>>1643611Yeah, the only real loss is that some old costumes won't come back.
>>1643598why would i need to change anything i say when i'm already right?>>1643605uncensored goonershit flops even harder though
>>1643615>uncensored goonershitSuch as? Please tell, I'm very eager to hear about these "uncensored goonershit" you speak of. Hopefully they're actually uncensored and not just some buzzword.
>>1643574What the fuck do you think this is?
>>1643617there are literal porn games out there like taimanin that you never see in gacha discussions because they are deader than the censored shit you cry about
>>1643624Most of it is literal shovelware. "Yeah go play those png DMM porn games that are incredibly pay 2 win" lol fuck off.
>>1643617If you are looking for uncensored games then you are better off digging through Korean kusoges.
>>1643640I'm aware, but I'm also not a fan of png/chibi stuff so in the meantime I'm just going through my backlog. One thing is clear, and that's chinese gacha companies cannot be trusted.
omnipandering(leaning to waifu) companies won bigly.
Just a tourist here, but I've seen a lot of batshit insane crazy people in my ~12 years on 4chan, especially in MMO /vg/ threads like /xivg/, and seeing this apparent homosexual absolute seethe about Snowbreak in these threads nonstop while blaming "femmroids" for everything all while ignoring facts is really something else.Like holy shit. How do you even get this crazy? It's surreal to even look at.
>>1643410>HOK and DNF say otherwise. Coomer pandering gacha games is but a segment of the entire mobile games market pie.NTA but like for every one HOK there are like 30 other clones that are trying and failing, anon you don't even remember how Netease fucking released like 10 battle royales to go up against 10c pubg and every single one of them without a doubt failed super quick and then EOS soon after?People joke about single player gacha industry being saturated right now but the coop mobile industry is even more savage, and it's even worse because being coop means you need a constant stream of players to keep the game alive, unlike single player where a few whales can keep it going for a while and also being single player means you can go fucking ham with the fanservice since no one else is there to judge you, and more coom content is what happens.
In 2 days, sales posting will be at an all time high between Genshin Impact and Wuthering Waves. Social media outside of 4chan states wuwa will blow genshin out the water.Does Wuthering Waves new region and version launch stand a chance against Genshin's Archon? Be honest.
>>1643672>Social media outside of 4chan states wuwa will blow genshin out the water.For that it'd at least have to make 30M which I don't see happening.
>>1643672i don't even like g game but come on
>>1643672The start of new regions don't even earn that much money in Genshin.It's the mega shilled archons or their equivalent that brings in the cash.So to answer your question, probably not. Unless WuWa starts their region off with their archon equivalent.
>m*les don't sal-ACK!
>>1643702Damn the female banners vs male banners thing is not even a fight its a straight up massacre. Just look how that female rerun banner is doing its at the top pretty much says it all.
>>1643672>Social media outside of 4chan states wuwa will blow genshin out the water.Not as long Japan keeps having that weird hate-bonner for Wuwa, which I feel that it's because Japan is hoyoland
>>1643275
>>1643702>klee and ganyu mog all release homosSo much for the "people started Genshin for the homos" argument.
>>1643574This is the place, xister. You're willingly entered it like a retard.
I've always said that straight women don't play two-dimensional anime games en masse for the most part.but homosexuals and shit with lgtbq disease for some strange reason embrace mixed bathrooms and believe they are the target audience, listen to me if you are a transsexual, lesbian, faggot or whatever disease you want to label yourself, you are not the target audience of these games, you're just a damn parasite.
how can waifutrannies be majority of genshit's playerbase if waifuflop simulators don't even have a tenth of genshit's peak player counts? the numbers don't add up troonxis
>Mihoyo want the male audience Explain why hsr keeps getting cuckshit and worms.
>>1643759shitting out femorrhoids flopped in genshitshitting out femorrhoids flopped in shart rail + fireflop and its cringy pandering killed the gameshitting out femorrhoids from the start flopped in zzz
>>1643664It's just a pajeet being paid by Angelo's discord troon squad in fucking google $10 paid cards, LMAO
>>1643239>Too bad ziggers aren't smart enough to capitalize on thatGood enough. We don't want capitalist pigs betraying loyal fans just for sake chasing more monies
>>1643605>>1643580I think you're not alone. People realized at certain point they'd rather go straight to playing porn games rather than half-assed ones such as Snowbreak or GFL2. That's why the porn storefront Nutaku is so successful. But as I said in >>1643379 some people DO want to avoid coompandering. They like it/don't care when games like Genshin censors or releases non-sexual characters. That's because sometimes you just want to relax and experience a game without the interruption of overly naughty stuff.
>>1643680archons sell because they're meta. xilonen flopped despite being BiS in every meta teamthe fact that they felt the need to release flopvuika with another new 5* without extending the banner is a desperate move and shows their lack of faith in their gigashilled archon which says a lot about the current state of the game
This felt very disconnected from the rest of Homoverse, until I saw the spats.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THPWm4O532M
>>1643795Well, there's nothing meta about Mavuika except being the new shiny pyro DPS and having butt jiggle
>>1643787>porn gamesYou know anon. Porn games are flop so hard due to inherent paradox>Porn>GameplayNo ones make good porn game. >But muh illusion and japs porn gameNo. that game is utterly shit
You know, the layoff rumor might not be a rumor after all.
>>1643801she powercreeps every dps retard. that's meta. muh off field support is not a valid argument
>>1643812>she powercreeps every dps retardBy being tied to Xilonen only, Arletroon still outperforms her by being way flexible, dumbass
>>1643814Arle best team still lose to Mav best team tho. That's what powercreep is.
which one of you is this
Infold is unstoppable
>>1643872>Infold is unstoppableI don't think so.
>>1643872Did LADS kill every other game for women? I remember Ashes of the Kingdom was getting pretty high rankings as well but they decided to abandon their women playerbase so I guess they weren't spending.
>>1643900Yes. Every Mihoyo game suffered hard thanks to LaDS.
>>1643872The power of yume
Deeply annoying how homogenic all Chinese gacha games look, Mihoyo might have spread an unhealable blight on the world.
>>1643897>Slutty Nikki
I have a question for you gacha loversIs there a gacha repository somewhere?If I want to have a folder with ALL gacha pics and skins from any given game, do I have to manually go to every wiki and download one by one (from the units that dare to have an entry pic)Is there something like this where I can just download all CGs from random gachas?
No new female this time
>>1644091Great thighs
>>1644081There isn't. Just like there's no repository for all console games. People play different gachas and nobody cares enough to do that tedious task especially since gachas are live service and always updating.
>>1644091My canonical wives
>>1643808They shouldn't have released Ochkanatlan in 5.2, they should've saved it for today's 5.3
>hoyo attempts to pander to straight men>cucks you afterwardssound familiar?
>>1644242That's just what Mihoyo does, don't know why anyone expected otherwise.
>>1644242FUCKING KEK, HOLY SHIT
>>1644242holy shit
>>1644242Like a clockwork
>>1644242thats just a message
>>1644258Yea, a message made by the dev teams. It's pretty much canon.
Why the heck anon still care with mihoyo tho? I mean mihoyo games are not for (you) (unless you like with camera observation fantasy in every mihoyo games) anon.
>>1644309>>1643388
>>1644242This is a bad translation, in Chinese, the "and nothing more" does not exist, and the sentence is in the sense "friends always help each other"
>>1644414proof?
>>1644242LMAO. Imagine getting friend zoned by fictional woman.
Happy new years Hoyobros
>>1644419
>>1644465>In chinese>JP
>>1644414>>1644465Fuck...my narrative...
>>1644465>>1644414Ah so she's still only your friend. Forever.
>>1643664>sameoldfag that's been here since /b/ habbo raids, boxxy, desu spam etc, zimzam trials, dorner on /pol/, gamergate on /v/, then stopped coming here after drumpf won the election in 2016 because the amount of shills made the board unusable, then came back recently and discovered /vmg/. I don't think i've ever seen a bigger den of mental illness than the mindbroken femorrhoid hating troons in /vmg/ and /vg/.
The femrohids hating troon is in reposnse to the male hosting troon who was in response to femcels from Genshin who were in response from a cat blending murderer who was in response to scaramoucheEverything bad in the current gacha fandom environment can be traced back to that cat psycho. He should be lined up against the wall and shot
>>1644242she's talking to belle, i swear!
>>1644465EN is the official language so it is the canon one.
>>1644465That's a JP translation, not original CN line tho. Are you a racist?
>>1644465trannyslators always do this, for context, she speaks like a sengoku era samurai in JP voice. It's like saying, "leave it to me brother in arms". But of course troons have their agenda, and have to change everything, this is nothing new, see every nintendo of america game where they change the context to suit their narrative, and suddenly everyone becomes homosexual or pedos. No idea what she says in chink, because i don't use chink voice or read chink, could be a different story.
>>1644556CN is the canon one, so it's the most important. Where can we find it?
>femorrhoids flo-ACK!literally every co-op team filled with mavuikas and citlalis. Pagnich never to be seen anywhere since his release, explain this femorrhoid hating trannies. >no more worms in natlan>2 worms in sneednayatime to look for that rope
Mavuika got TikTok hours!Genshin is back baby!
>>1644574Oh no no. Gaybro, we lose...
>>1644628>surpassing tiktokWe're so back>not peaking in JP and KRGrim considering they pulled out all stops on a double banner with an Archon and during a festive patch
lads made 66 million in CN this monthzzz made 56.7 million globally (cn included)gfl2 15mil haoplay, 5 mill darkwinter, china still dead af even on their 1st anni only up 300k in ios revenueI think those are all the gachas that had big events this month
>>1644664our overlords from tencent made 236.5 million with honor of kings alone using the same android multiplier
>>1644678>30m for cinderella in nikkei recall some troons saying she flopped, how stupid they look. even the whimsical maiden ice dragon event did well at 13m. trannies are truly mindbroken, just go back to playing concord or intergalactic, oh wait.. troon games don't sell
>>1644678holy shit LADstacies are just too powerful
>>1644678I thought males flop why are males SELLING?Meanwhile Nikke, WuWa, Blue Archive, Snowbreak, GFL2, Brown Dust 2 all flopped.
>>1644678Wow. Snowbreak is never gonna recover from the censorship controversy is it
>>1644695they have been through worse, I'm sure they will recover
>>1644678>guilongchao 2750lole
>>1644694With the amount of wuwa shilling, what the fuck is happening?
>>1644694>90% of the games on the list are geared towards males, 9% are geared towards both sexes, like 1 or 2 games are geared exclusively towards females>wHy aRe MaLe pAnDeRinG gAmEs fAiLiNglay off the HRT brother, it's rotting your brain
>>1644700But according to this thread most people are already "fed up" with mixed toilets... They despise Mihoyo and would rather spend on Master Love games...Wait a minute, it's almost like tieba hate posts directed towards Mihoyo's mixed toilet games don't reflect real life...
>>1644700>90% of the games on the list are geared toward males>Majority are mixed toilet + FeMC + hostile toward males fanbaseHow are you explain that anonHow are
>>1644694did you really think the subhuman freaks who resort to waifupaggotry are capable of getting jobs?
>>1644678>non-hyperbolic, non-biased 0.2 centsMixed toilet games/non-ML games are still the biggest earners. Hoyo games are still doing well despite drama and controversies every other month. Their titles have established stable playerbases and will likely still remain in top 10-15 even with strong competitors launching this year. LADS is doing exceptionally well in its genre because it has a USP and they have zero competition for now. Coomer games are doing okay considering it's a niche target audience. No crazy figures, but not EOS figures either. >wuwaEOS soon
>>1644702>They despise Mihoyo and would rather spend on Master Love games...Love and Deepspace is a Master Love game.
>>1644678turn off the multiplier bwo
>>1644702>low iq doesn't understand market capyou're comparing 1 game LaDS which has a monopoly over femoids to each individual male pandering game. LaDS and maybe a few other homo games like arknights, HSR and nikki have a monopoly on the entire female market. Meanwhile every other developer has to fight over the male market, that includes games like FGO (pricrel), Genshin, ZZZ, DBZ, Nikke, Brown Dust, etc. Tally up all games that pander towards males (almost all of them), then compare their revenue to games that pander exclusively to females and homosexuals, and trannies. The troon/femoid market is irrelevant and not worth developing for, meanwhile developers will continue to make content for males. See how mihoyo is doing with mavuika/citlali/miyabi. You can whine all day about femorrhoids, but the data shows, no developer cares about troons, at best, they try to tap into the female market by adding token homos to bait them. Companies like mihoyo have learned their lesson, shit like sumeru will never happen again, except maybe in HSR until it starts flopping
>>1644711The coping has begun....
>more sexo femaledare I say genshin is healing?
There needs to be a schizo that arbitrarily labels the games as mixed, ML (male oriented), and ML (female oriented) so we get more headcanons of whose winning.
Now let's see how much money they burn on advertising.
>>1644715hot
>>1644708>Hoyo games are still doing well miyabi is literally the best zzz can offer so those sales are below expectationshsr had two hyped banners so those ssles are also below expectations only genshin looks good because it only had reruns (of males btw) in december but at the same time, the fact that new characters like emilie muttlani and flopsca sold less than neuv's third rerun isn't a good thing either.
>>1644724>massive power creeper dps and best shielder >better sales than hard to use dps which deals less damage than year 2 dpsno shit sherlock
>>1644728c6 muttlani is better than c6 neuvc6 flopsca is better than c6 neuv
>>1644712Point is people are either fed up with mixed toilets or they don't. The narrative anons are trying to form in this thread is that players are fed up with Mihoyo's games. But the numbers show clearly they don't. Hence the narrative crumbles. Mihoyo haters lost again.
>>1644731nah you lost tranny
>>1644732Not a tranny, and this is pathetic mental gymnastics. Just admit translating random tieba posts from Mihoyo-hating chink schizos only generates short-lived feeling of victory, while the reality is Mihoyo isn't going down anytime soon.
>>1644733well, i'm not anti-mihomo, i like to see them course correct. i can give them a second chance, just keep the worms at a minimum, or contain them in HSR since i don't play it. keep the censorship and worms, and shipbaiting out of genshin and ZZZ and i'm fine with them.
>>1644711>
What is mihoyo doing?
>>1644739mixed toilet xisters, i don't feel so good
>>1644742The game's clearly in decline. Layoffs hit the game hard, the competent people who see the writing on the wall have left the company while the ones who will never get fired are the women who play office politics all day. I also wonder how high the costs are since the revenue's pressure has been so high they had to break their own rules to squeeze some more money from their players.
>>1644745>while the ones who will never get fired are the women who play office politics all dayAll the devs in recent livestreams are men. What makes you believe they haven't fired all the female devs when they already returned to releasing back to back waifus, or are they just the most convenient boogeymen to blame for all genshin failures? For one, if female devs still have power where are the male characters?
>>1644742actively driving maleshit begging troons toward suicide it seems
>>1644745>women who play office politics all daysounds like they're the ones who got fired, have you seen the recent trailers? the mavuika jiggle? the reversal in 1 day of censorship in zzz? not only that, but most companies in the west are reversing on the whole ESG/woke nonsense, it's killing companies, all the wokies are losing their jobs
>>1644747They're releasing waifus because due to KPI pressures their higher ups are asking to make more of what sells, I don't think it's that complicated. If female devs had no power they would have already completely stopped releasing males because it's clear they don't make money.>All the devs in recent livestreams are menyeah until they show what their office looks like and then it's clear the company is almost 50% women.
>>1644750>If female devs had no power they would have already completely stopped releasing males because it's clear they don't make money.Making genshin mixed toilet to appeal to a wide playerbase has always been a financial decision and it has proven to be successful (vs HI3). They are still making money from male characters through merch and collab and there's no reason to cut that source of revenue and drive the normie playerbase away.
Genshin and ZZZ are better positioned in the console and PC GL market than HSR, miyabi sold much more than Sunday in each GL store.and by the way, a character like neuvilette who outscale all the old characters including raiden who financed the fucking nuclear reactor of mihoyo for herself, is a failure from the point of view of balance because he not only resell like a shit, but it does not allow other characters future/present/past to be sold to XP players.
I remember that I saw mihoyo's recruitment sheet there around mid-2022, casually starting to prepare for Sumeru, inclusion and diversity they were looking for at that time, it turns out that from there their decline began from there their decline began.
>more invisible numbers copeboringpagden mogged every dps on release and retroactively shat on most dpses released after her because her C2 makes her better than C6 dpses btw
>>1644783wormnich mogged everyone and he still flopped
but enough about flopsca and muttlani. imagine losing to neuvillette's 3rd rerun kekeven kinich outsold both of those femorrhoids despite not being meta and the 8 waifuflop skip patches before his release
>>1644783>troonvilette the most overpowered meta homo flopped and killed all the worms to the point mihomo will only release 1-2 worms per regioni must thank our lord and savior wormvillette for xis sacrifice, long live the coomers
If GI males sold well, why DaWei on stage crying and promise to go back to the root?
if femorrhoids sell where are the sales? post them
>Muh sales>Make up noombersPost REAL one then? The only real thing that happen is DaWei cry like a bitch because game is dying, that's unrefusable proof while le meme chart has zero thing to back it up.
straight men just cant stop winning
>>1644796I guess it would work for boys just hit puberty or think Snowbreak is too much for virgin eyes.
I will say the girl look like she will succ you
>>1644796>that eyecancer color schemelooks like one of those fugly characters from iruma kun
>>1644796who's this sex demon
people who wanted playable Captain will have a strokegood
>beautiful demi-girl with heart eyes > wormpitanoI haven't played Genshin Impact for 2 years but I love seeing feminists and troons cry
Is this the root?
>3 worms> none is remembrance> one is physical and the other imaginary> castorice will be the anniversary characteryes those are the roots
>>1644796>this is peak coom for hoyotards
>>1644792>tranny has no data to show>tries to discredit existing data instead because all of it goes against xis narrativejust post proof that femorrhoid flops didn't flop and kill genshitin other news, the gigashilled archon flopped. no big jumps in ranking for today's last update
>f-femorrhoids flo-ACK!
>>1644842see you when they update it with the real numbers in a few days kek
>>1644842>-1 billion in marketing
> first day waifu powercreep > 21 days powercreep wormwho would say ¿huh?
>>1644718You can't say that....Don't look up how much advertising is used and costs...
the worm has the most broken kit in the entire game is Genshin Impact ksante, homa, a meta waifu like hutao in his side and the most niche archon is already reaching it on the first day... I see because Da Wei literally cried that day, the irreparable damage that Jimei did to Genshin Impact it's hilarious. He deserves it for filling his company with 50% women who don't even like his business philosophy.
> 21 days of worm with 200m advertising marketing vs 1 day of the first archon that practically seems like self-sabotagethe funniest thing of all is that it sums up very well because recent mixed games do what they do with gender ratios.
LMAO
last time waifutroons celebrated sales (zzz's fox bitch) it turned out to be a nothingburger. imagine barely outselling neuvillette's third rerun lole >>1644678why do you trannies always set the bar low for your femorrhoid flops?
everything about natlan's archon has been weird, her drip marketing was screwed because it was delayed, she doesn't consume the X2 recharge bonus (or so i think i don't know if they reset it for this patch), her PV trailer seemed very cheap, no Eng VA and possibly there is no new map in the next patch to explore with your pyro archon who is good for exploring, if you ask me there are too many things that don't seem to be a coincidence however mauvika has the same revenue ratio as the first day of an archon with X2 recharge bonus from the past at least in JP, which marks a similar trend to furina at least, if the anyone in internal genshin impact team whoever it is tried to sabotage her it has failed miserably.
>>1644915other archons were able to hit #1 in japan and china for several daysflopvuika couldn't do this at all despite being released with another new 5*. bitch is losing to a male banner in FGO kek
I understand that the 3 Tencent games released New Year's offers on the same day that Genshin Impact released Mauvika but the 4 games are actually above TikTok.
>>1644914Straight men don't play Hoyoshit. My guess is that you're either samefagging or arguing with another schizo.
>i-it's those other games' fault for being more successful...holy shit keknone of those games are similar to genshit. in fact, 2 of them are shooters and have the same market but they still mogged flopvuika
>>1644921If straight men don't play Hoyoshit how come they're always top 5 while "straight men games" fell off?
Mauvika got mogged by the granny.
the faggot doesn't understand what i mean, it's normal for troons to have a low IQ that's they're only good for low-effort jobs. if a moba, shooter, social game or pvp game launches a new year sale it's logical that it's at the top above another game, at the end of the day the goal of the 4 is to be above tiktok they become impossible to measure, by the way it seems that mauvika doesn't actually have a top up reset bonus lol
i can confirm it, mavuika/citlali does not have Top-up Bonus x2, she is the only archon that has not had it especially after 3 patches it is strange.
poorina didn't get a topup reset either and the last topup reset didn't even save muttlani's salesi know you want to soften the blow when the january chart drops but there's just no excuse for a double 5* release + paid skins to flop this hard
furina was in the patch being the first waifu after wormmeru in 4.2 she received the initial reset because everyone saved it for her.mauvika there are 3 patches, which went through several character pulls including xilonen who is kazuha powercreep and moved to the lantern rite, so if she is destroying your transsexual ass and you will be left without worms for the rest of the patch like the parasite that are you.
>>1644927They do a good job at attracting beta cucks
>>1644961You play gacha you don't get to claim being an alpha
tldr your femorrhoids flopped despite not having any competition for their target market. looking forward to seeing this month's chart lole
>Genshin -50% revenue in a year, while expenses are upIf 2025 goes as badly for Genshin as 2024 then it will be on the EoS path.
this is how 2024 ended for mobile games around the world.sauce:https://www.statista.com/statistics/1179913/highest-grossing-mobile-games/
>>1644963>You play gachahaven't played anything since late 2022
Compared to 2023, in 2024 the console and the PC together represent 50.66% of the income in the video game market, being the first time that they reach the mobile market 49.33%, this aligns with the statements of Tencent Games in November at the closing of the last quarter of 2024 and reaffirm its intention to expand to consoles and PC.There was a significant growth on the part of the PC of about +3.5 compared to 2023 and a decrease of the console compared to 2023 of - 0.5, the mobile grew +2.7. It is likely that by 2025 the PC will continue to grow, the United States also became the first representative market for both mobile, PC and console revenues, in the case of mobile the United States remains solid with 33%, while CN 18% and JP with 13.8% the growth of JP is notable for 2024 with respect to CN, so their coefficients are not so different with respect to mobile collection.Keep in mind that IOS is no longer part of the top 5 representative of the mobile market in CN, so its revenues are close to JP, so it is possible that it is more because mobile revenues from third parties such as Alipay are not taken into the analysis.Conclusions, be very careful with 2025, it is possible that the PC and the console will become significant variants for games, especially mobile games that intend to be launched as multiplatform.
>>1644729proof?>c6While most of genshin players are retarded, they are not a retarded whale. Most would stop at c0 and c0 Neuv mogs them all.
>>1644826They all look like the exact same character just in different lighting and with different eye colors. Do femcels just have no standards for male characters?Literally look at their hair styles. It's the exact fucking same thing for all of them. Long bangs in the front covering down to their nose.
>>1645128Typical honkshit design. You either have the same face or you wear the same dress.
>>1644983Hi3 and tears of themis sell like shit yet they are still around. Genshit will just be put into maintenence phase and the content droughts will get longer. Eos is unlikely since there are still retards being hoodwinked into rolling for shilled waifu of the month and simping over AI slop designs.
>>1643202>guilongchao drops to 4 digits in fucking decemberholy shiti'm not sure which one gets fucked the hardest by devs themselves, this or X2 eclipse
>>1645128If you ask for one more character model, the employees will stop having free ice cream, bro. Think of all those females working day and night to come up with new ways to shit on you, bro.
>>1645167its mostly men who work at hoyo you tranny
>>1645170>its mostly men who work at hoyo
>>1645171>basing an entire company's gender percentage on a screenshot of an unknown department from an unknown time periodHoyofags can't be this retarded
>>1645152because they had a cash cow that let them do anything they want. now it's deadalso, hi3 and tot are low budget games
>>1645190They are just gonna release less content and reuse more, it's not that complicated.
How come the only ones engaging in gacha drama are always dead game fags? If I open a drama thread or a revenue thread then it's going to be snowbreak, wuwa and cuck dust shilling in there without fail while popular games or games that are doing well are completely absent
>>1645197see >>1642678
>>1645197Because they actually revolve around Mihoyo, the top company.Snowbreak is for disgruntled ex-Mihoyo players who wanted more coompandering, while Wuwa is for disgruntled ex-Mihoyo players who wanted more grind, better combat, and (You)pandering. They're like spiteful ex-girlfriends who couldn't stop talking about how much better and handsome their new boyfriends are.
>>1645197>while popular games or games that are doing well are completely absentThere's drama for those games but dramafags just don't bother to post about it. Like Infinity Nikki got caught plagiarizing FF14, or how Dishwasher the guy who did AP's character designs got fired by manjuu in a not so friendly way and there's zero news about AP release anytime soon even though their license will be expired this month, but no one here talks about them.
This is the true power men's wallets have, husbandotrannyNever forget it, we dictate what we want in our games, not you
>>1645233Okay now I'm intrigued. What will happen to Azur Promilia now? It was supposed to be the next big thing.
>>1645235>imposing dark knight on throne>name also rhymes with cappuccino I will never take such characters seriously. Yes, that also includes another character whose name rhymes with cappuccino in the same game.wee wee
Da Weibros...
>>1644711>turn off multiplier>GFL2 suddenly makes over 10 times the number here >>1644678Explain this
>>1644711>Turn off meme multiplier>LaDs is suddenly no longer an unstoppable godI am noticing.
>>1645249They succeed with the global launch.The shit stirrer should've hung himself by now.
>>1645254>Turn off multiplier>HSR's male banner suddenly no.1
>>1645165At least Guilongchao devs weren't retarded enough to have the story be an active middle finger to the protagonist, far as I know
>>1645197> shillingPeople shill for games they want more people to find out about and play.With all the marketing that already happens on other platforms no one needs reminding that Hoyoverse games exist
Wuthering Waves is suspected of writing a NTR plot. The villain threatened Carlotta with her uncle's life, so she pointed her gun at the drifter then shot some rocks to separate the drifter from her, then decided to go alone with the villain.
>>1645418imagine the sex
>>1645418Well-adjusted people don't think like this...
>>1645418factcheckbros...?
>>1645418lol as if. Xitter faggots are constantly whining about the characters being too Roversexual.
>>1645233>no i quit
Numbers for you
>>1645471I don't get it, Genshin and HSR dropping that hard while literally other CN mobile games are climbing is wild, genshin fucking tanking -43%? Even Arknights went up +8% it should have been on the decline, what tf is going on?
>>1645474Because the game is boring and doesn't really give you anything else to stay invested in playing it.
>>1645397do autists think that sperging out about other games and being obnoxious over smaller games will somehow make people play them? if you come into my space crying about the game i'm currently playing and begging me to play X instead then i'm going to be way more likely to never touch that in my life which is the opposite result
>>1645418MLfags lost another game
>>1645474funny how 2023 GI + HSR would beat 2024 GI + HSR + ZZZ
Probably no leak due to NDA but I hope they will publish some new trailer after the technical test
>>1645487has a NDA ever stopped leakers
>>1645488it's easier to be caught in real lifeI dont think NtE technical test had any visual leak either
>>1645474both genshit/shart rail shat out femorrhoid flops nonstop and femorrhoids don't appeal to their playerbase
[SAD NEWS]Wuthering Waves peaks 16 in China, 21 in Japan and could not obtain #1 in Korea with their newest 2.0 version release.With the amount of shilling NA content creators and this thread pushed can someone explain what happened to the WuWa player base?
>>1645637There is too much waifu/ml games. It's that simple. People have too much choices. The bubble is bursting
>>1645637It's on the EoS path. Tencent will shut it down after they release HoK World and Wuwa still isn't profitable.
>>1645637LaDs gets to enjoy being the only game of its kind, its only real competition is ToT but Hoyo doesn't seem to give a fuck about that game. Waifu games are abundant and don't have the same luxury.
>>1645637>NA content creator Biggest wuwa shill is a pajeet lol.
Worst gacha game I played in 2024 was easily brown dust 2Best gacha I played in 2024 was probably ZZZ since the combat feels really fast and fluidPlayed a bunch of other games in 2024 but they were either too mediocre to be named or just average.Wuthering Waves felt mechanically better than genshin but it feels soulless. The story just exists to wank off the main character, the gray filter makes the world look bleak, the character designs are very average and forgettable with few exceptions and and the community has to be the worst in all gacha.Snowbreak might have won a spot among the top but the back to back to back dramas and incompetent developers really soured the game for me. Community is pretty dogshit for that game too so it went from excellent to just average after the honeymoon ended.
>>1645637>what happened>>1645418they've been silent ever since
>>1644628I shouldn't have pulled c6 mavuika
>>1645418>we want the GFL2 audience!
>>1645637>Brant is shipbait with Roccia>Zani is c/u/ckbait with Phoebe>Carlotta for (you) pandering is tame as fuck in comparison with Changli / Shorekeeper / Cammy>Characters interact more between them and less with the MC so Kuro is trying to attract shiptrannies after baiting waifufags>Jinshi skin is overpriced and bad designed (like seriously the base skin shows more meat than the fucking skin)>Soft self-censorship because the breast jiggle of then new female character is barely visible in comparison of the old charactersand this >>1645418
>>1645637I played it for about 10h today.TLDR is: whatever Kuro did previously wasn't working so Tencent stepped in and told them to make the most safe corporate by-the-books lowest common denominator slopThey basically wanted a high-production value chink Marvel type of thing aimed at basic bitches and it failed spectacularly>aesthetic got changed to nu-Genshin tier clownshow>cute monster NPCs, plush bear enemies, monster lamp-posts that play wacky music and other such lol so random XD womanbait>paimon clone talks over the MC and repeats shit that was already said>saturation, bloom and sfx vomit cranked to 11>everything looks like ugly toxic eyecancer in general>map is huge and empty, and the movement is giga casualised with on-rails shortcuts everywhere. Most of the time you're just pressing T and watching the game play itself as your character zooms through massive empty fields with no player input all on its own>no more chests scattered around the map, every sub area has a designated "combat zone" and "chest collection zone" where 5 chests sit in the open and you just walk in and take them>all this stuff is marked on the map, it feels less like BotW freeform exploration, and more like clearing camps in an open-world Ubislop>most exploration rewards got halved, and basic puzzles don't give gems at all>all the dev effort wasted on long story corridors, cutscenes and QTE sections that play themselves and only happen once>starting any quest or going anywhere means having to sit there and do what you're told for 2-3 hours until the game lets you goOverall it feels like a vapid and soulless handholding simulator with no player agency. Most of the "content" is you just sitting there like a cuck until the game prompts the player to do <thing>, then you go and do itIt's like a game for 90 IQ people that enjoy being told what to do and then doing itThere's no audience for this, those 90 IQ people don't even play games
>>1645744>Zani is c/u/ckbait with PhoebeBased if true. But you retards always make up completly nonsensical shit to cope over losing, so I don't know if I can believe this.
>>1645783There wasn't enough time since the patch dropped to go through all that insipid wordslop100% he made it up
>>1645744Only thing I am inclined to agree with you on here is Jinhsi's skin being overpriced.
>>1645771tencent really wants their ROI. shame, i was hoping they'd find their own identity and reinvent themselves like snowbreak did, not in a coom way, but just standing out and stop copying genshit. Oh well, guess I'll continue not trying their game.
>>1645637>>1645771They've decided to abandon their female playerbase by going full waifupandering, so I don't get why would they pivot from being hyped as "the Dark Souls of gacha" that mainly appeals to men to... Ubislop. They must've gotten one too many "Exploration is tedious" complaints, even though the problem wasn't exploration itself but the fact Wuwa exploration was the most inane, uninspiring "solve elementary puzzle to open chest in the middle of grey barren field" shit.
>>1645771Is it really that bad? I was actually thinking about trying it to see how it compared to Genshin.
>>1645783Why would anyone go on the internet and lie, anon?
>>1645771You say that but it's still way above your average gachashit.
>>1645771And here I was tempted to try it out.Oh well, Tencent is a sign of trouble. I learned enough with League.
>>1645796I'm not going to sugarcoat it: if you haven't played WuWa before and pick it up now, you'll need to sit through 30 hours of what's basically a Snoy movie game where you go from quest marker to quest marker and press skip.0 chance of a new player surviving this long enough to reach new contentI think it's a big part of why these games flop so bad: I want to try and reinstall Genshin after this shitshow to compare them myself, but the massive pile of storyslop I'd have to catch up on says I'm not allowed to actually playTo play these games you need to start on day 1 and/or hate yourself
>>1645789>>1645796>>1645806We don't need you anyway, retards
>>1645807To be fair they have a quick start though, so it's, like, an hourI actually quite liked it. Previous markers will be left on the map, but the environments and music were a substantial improvement and nowhere near what OP said (versus, say, Genshin, which I enjoyed at first and now actively makes me want to kill myself). Your mileage may vary, I guess
>>1645807Both games could've separated the story arcs based on region with the excuse of "the main character is a traveler anyway" but they're all obsessed with long continuous narrative the thought of "maybe our 1.0 could be a flop people want to skip" had never crossed their minds.
>Weso true saar keep doing the needful
>>1645820I feel like this is the real issue. I also hated 1.0 but 2.0 blows everything out of the water and is fantastic IMHO. Issue is getting there. As >>1645817 mentioned, you only have to go through the first three acts to story skip to the new region, which takes little time, but it sucks ass that you have to get through those in the first place.If the first region was a 4 / 10 both the new region and the new bosses are easily an 8 or 9 out of 10. If you can stomach it, I'd recommend it.
>>1645806Anon if you learned from League then you know they've been hands off for like half a decade until recently with the $500 skin and gacha which I 100% blame Riot for.
so should I try wuwu or not
so who's right?is wuwu 2.0 trash or not
>>16458391.0 is absolutely, undeniably, dogshit trash2.0 is fucking greatI'd like it if >>1645771 could weigh in since his points weren't my experience at all, but as for my thoughts on it>aesthetic got changed to nu-Genshin tier clownshowAesthetic's always been the same, game still looks good and this is a point most people agree with. No idea where this came from.>cute monster NPCs, plush bear enemies, monster lamp-posts that play wacky music and other such lol so random XD womanbaitYes, in one particular part of the region, but they're a handful of enemies and they're given context in the story. You also have knights, dragons, etc.>paimon clone talks over the MC and repeats shit that was already saidNo idea what anon is talking about, There's Abby, but he literally has, like, five lines.>saturation, bloom and sfx vomit cranked to 11Did not notice this but okay.everything looks like ugly toxic eyecancer in generalI think anon's eyes may have cancer, which would explain the issue.>map is huge and empty, and the movement is giga casualised with on-rails shortcuts everywhere. Most of the time you're just pressing T and watching the game play itself as your character zooms through massive empty fields with no player input all on its ownNot at all. Movement is guided for the first part of the story, but after picrel you're pretty much allowed to explore.>no more chests scattered around the map, every sub area has a designated "combat zone" and "chest collection zone" where 5 chests sit in the open and you just walk in and take themYeah I didn't like this much, but granted I also didn't like not being able to clear the map because there was one chest in who-knows-where. You do reveal these zones as you explore.>all this stuff is marked on the map, it feels less like BotW freeform exploration, and more like clearing camps in an open-world UbislopNot until you discover them. This one is really weird, maybe I'm misunderstanding.
>>1645796Only try wuthering waves if>You really hate genshin>You really hate hoyoverse>You really love exploration, chests and puzzlesIf you prefer combat, action and don't get autistically mad at the sight of Hoyoverse then Zenless Zone Zero is much better since the fast paced combat feels really fun.Personally, I play both because they occupy different niches but it's pretty jarring sometimes going from ZZZ's fast paced combat or modern QoLs to Wuwa
>>1645796I too listen to copy pasta shitposter from /vg/ to tell me how to think.
>>1645850 (contd)>>most exploration rewards got halved, and basic puzzles don't give gems at allI'm guessing anon might be confusing the normal exploration level rewards with the map exploration rewards. Those got added to the game in this patch - they're decent and the patch is pretty generous overall (I think around 180 pulls or something for F2P, IIRC)>all the dev effort wasted on long story corridors, cutscenes and QTE sections that play themselves and only happen onceYeah no argument here. Hated this in Hoyo, hate it now. There's a ton of cool shit in the open world though, which is repeatable.>starting any quest or going anywhere means having to sit there and do what you're told for 2-3 hours until the game lets you goNot at all. This was another one of the things I hated about 1.0, but 2.0 is a lot better at letting you actually fucking move, and the quests I've tried so far haven't been that heavy on the dialogue, apart from MSQ, but that one at least has interesting dialogue.>Overall it feels like a vapid and soulless handholding simulator with no player agency. Most of the "content" is you just sitting there like a cuck until the game prompts the player to do <thing>, then you go and do itNope, not seeing it unless you're just talking about the main story quest, which is the nature of the main story quest. It's always going to be linear so I'm not sure what anon wanted. There's a ton of shit to do in the world, though.
>>1645637I remember the early days when this was heavily shilled as the genshit killer. Nowadays it looks like all the wuthering waves shills and shitposters left /vg/ and converged here.
>>1645834>they've been hands off for like half a decadethey've been hands off for like half a decadeBullshit, they obviously gained a bigger reign while in the creative deparment their californian genes were winning>until recently with the $500 skin and gacha which I 100% blame Riot for.Bull-fucking-shit, it started with pulsefire ezreal.
>>1645856>Nowadays it looks like all the wuthering waves shills and shitposters left /vg/ and converged here.You should check /wuwa/ sometimes, that's their real HQ. They definitely go to other generals and /v/ to shill their game too but like anons pointed out, the only ones interested in gacha drama are games where drama is their entire reason to exist like Wuthering Waves, Snowbreak and other dead games.
>>1645861Brother what the fuck are you smoking
>>1645642there are other male-only gachas that aren't on the listit doesn't matter how many waifuflop simulators there are when waifutroons just flock to the biggest ones anyway
>>1645862I think he's assmad because somebody called him out on his doompost, kek.
>>1645856game killers never end up killing the games they are shilled to killpeople never learn
>>1645865I mean I tried to be nice and tell him to weigh in >>1645771What does he want from me
question for the anon samefagging himselfdo you honestly think there's only one anon here that thinks wuwa's community is just filled with shills?
>>1645856>>1645867I'm genuinely happy the game is doing horribly though. If your entire sales pitch is "HAHA LOL THIS OTHER GAME SUCKS OURS IS BETTER" and constantly shitting on other games and communities then your entire company deserves to go under.They copied a game people were already getting tired of without understanding what made it good or popular in the first place and expected the same level of popularity and revenue but all they got was a slap on the face.
>>1645872Fuck off, schizo. If you want to reply to my post you're free to, otherwise you can go fuck yourself.
so I'm guessing the giant greentext was schizobabble, wasn't it?fuck this, I'm just gonna play nikke.
Line up at Ananta offline beta testingso these are the ananta players...
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9383408945?pn=3One of the offline tester going to the ananta offline event claim there is no PV fraud and it is real. He also proved it by taking the onsite picture where the test is located
>>1645887I can't believe its actually real, thought it would be vaporwaveToo bad none of these big gachas commit to a canon MC
>>1645888holy shit is NetEase really doing it?
Man what would it take for Toddslop but anime
>>1645888Sex!Sex with Taffy!I guess no one will cosplay Dalia in this weather
>>1645882Of course it is, tourist.
Is this the place where all the bug-eyed chinks have gathered?
>>1645850you're replying to bait desu, anyone who play the game stop at>paimon clone talks over the MC and repeats shit that was already saidliterally the whole reason you go to rinascita is because abby keep sleeping after waking up, you know rover could solo the dragon if abby somehow didnt decide to eat the beam lol2.0 so far been pretty great, it so good it made me pissed of they fumble the 1.0
>>1645895What happened to dish anyway? Dude is acting like he hates Manjuu now just because they didnt’t swoop in and shield him from the haters.
>>1645888that's a netease shill>>1645892that's a man
ngl I have extremely high expectations for Ananta. Even though it's a mixed toilet the fanservice and the skimpy cosplayers they hire have shown me enough.
>>1645901nobody would be mad at mixed toilet if they all have 1:10 male:female ratio
>>1645836If you're curious then just try it, it's FREE.>>1645887I look like that.>>1645888Keep me updated anon.
Apparently it works on phone but the NPC density has been decreased for the test. Ppl think there will be more on release.>>1645903You go just go use the Google translate extension
Kinda agree with this
>>1645783Rejoice yuritranny sis Kuro is pandering your kind! https://x.com/dailyphoebei/status/1874937820852437248
>>1645915what the fuck is that VA? I saw fan art of that character is that what she actually sounds like in game?
>>1645917Yes, this is what WuWa fags call "top tier voice acting" KEK
>>1645915they even copied trannycchino
>>1645915I looove notFontaine!
>The game's start screen lets you choose between single - player or multiplayer mode, similar to GTA 5's online and offline options. >The basic 3C system for character movement is decent. The swinging mechanics, like Spider-Man's, may still need optimization, but swinging feels satisfying. Running and swinging don't have a stamina bar. >Currently, you can't buy houses or cars. >You can rob pedestrian's phones and even view their chat histories. The chat logs are rich in content, and none of the phones you rob have duplicate chats, possibly utilizing Al technology. >All characters have telekinesis abilities, as shown in earlier previews, allowing them to lift and throw objects at pedestrians.>Regarding gender ratios, the test version features 9-11 playable female characters. While there are only two male characters besides the male protagonist, making it three if included.>Both male and female protagonists are available, and you can choose at the start.>The initial map is confirmed to resemble Manhattan in Spider-Man, with bridges connecting it to external areas. The entire island was accessible in the technical test, and you can freely swing across it.>Some areas feel empty, while others are densely populated with NPCs. The details still need refinement.>You can ride the subway.>The character progression system is unclear so far, and there don't seem to be any staple "gacha" mechanics like in miHoYo games.>Interaction is highly immersive - you can pet cats and even pull chairs out from under sitting NPCs.>There are plenty of urban life activities, such as playing mahjong and working out.>You can make video calls with characters.>In terms of vehicles, you can drive cars, but there are no water or air vehicles for now.
>>1645947>There's a costume customization system similar to "Infinity Nikki" allowing free outfit combinations for characters. Clothes are interchangeable among characters of the same gender and automatically adapt to body shapes. Available outfits in the test include basketball uniforms swimsuits workout gear , and uniforms.>You can shoot at pedestrians, but it doesn't cause any damage.>As far seamless landing, same seamless, while others still require loading screens.>The storyline is short - about 30 minutes of gameplay and ends abruptly. It's fairly standard, but the protagonist feels cool to play (according to community feedback). The attached image is a newly launched transit map taken by someone at the event.
>>1645901Meh. The fact that the left cosplayer is sexier than the in-game design just lost my motivation to play Ananta. I still won't touch safe horny mixed toilet game.
>>1645947>>1645948Post footages
The layoff is real...
>>1645947>>1645948Was this game ever advertised as a mobile gacha game? What if it just releases as a stand alone B2P game or something? Can someone confirm this is a gacha game or is still a bit unknown?
>>1645960>https://x.com/deweibsLiterally every comment xhe has posted and I mean every single one contains the word incels. Why is xer like this?
>>1645960So the rumors are true(?) women are the ones leaving the company
>>1645972She's literally me but female
>>1645960the inc*l agenda is real, femorrhoid xis was right...
>>1645898I don't know and I don't care. I think I better leave this cesspit. Shit makes /alg/ a children playground by comparison.
>make a post about my experience playing wuwa and go to bed>resident jeets copy-paste it to /vg/ like 3 times>samefagging and schizo accusations ensuemfwnever change, /vmg/
>>1645902People will lose 50-50, get spooked by male like they did Lingyang in Wuwa and immediately quit. "Nobody would be mad" lmao
>>1645947>While there are only two male characters besides the male protagonist, making it three if included.What the fuck is wrong with these chinks
>>1646016WuWa has 6 or 7 female limited banners for every male, but the standard pool is still 50% menThey're doing homo spooks on purpose to frustrate new players into swiping for the limited girl cause their free newfag pulls keep shitting out menI'm pretty sure all mixed toilets are like this and they all have that one designated "brick" SSR in the standard pull you're supposed to absolutely fucking hate
>>1645902it would flop and be DOA instead like wuwa and zzz
>>1645947>>Regarding gender ratios, the test version features 9-11 playable female characters. While there are only two male characters besides the male protagonist, making it three if included.>>Both male and female protagonists are available, and you can choose at the start.So it's a mixed toilet. Already dead on arrival in China.
>>1645637Daiwei sell charging mihomo games to boost their rankings and wuwa completely flops worldwide with their new version launch. More and more people are leaving mixed toilet gachas.
>>1646028Some of the highest selling gachas in the world are mixed toilet. >>1644678 Just because you wish companies would appeal to you doesn't make it reality.
https://tiebac.baidu.com/p/9384228694?pn=10With a new year, a new explosive interview.>Summary>2025 will be a bloodbath, all gacha companies will compete for the leftovers of the market, including Mihoyo themselves. Gacha companies will change their playstyles from attacking the players to attacking each other.>The content production of big gacha games is completely unsustainable. There's too much competition between writing and artists, so employees become exhausted so they just hand in whatever can get approval from their boss.>In addition, they're also suffering from insane management problems. Due to a lack of direction some employees just try to stuff whatever they want into the game, and there even conflicts between departments such as marketing team versus the content team>Mihoyo's artists have lost the right to influence the project>Production costs of gacha games have absolutely soared. In fact, labor costs are now only 40 or 50% of the costs or even lower. The three pillars of costs in gacha games are manpower, advertising costs and outsourcing. The only relatively cheap cost is community management, so expect far more community management in 2025.>Mihoyo has already judged that Genshin is shrinking and is now in a retirement state, and investment into the game must now be downgraded.>Wuthering Waves is not doing well which is why Tencent is trying to help. Their operating costs are sustainable but production costs are very high.>Pressure on Azur Promilia is very high. Fights between teams, overnight direction changes, replacing employees like drinking water. It's difficult to tell the game's future.>Objectively speaking, GFL2's state is much better now than it was in the middle of 2024.>When Infinity Nikki started, a large amount of income came from males spending for strength. The market for female-oriented products has pretty much reached its peak.I recommend reading the full interview it's prety good.
>>1645919Don't be a disingenuous fag, retardEveryone knows that the eng dub is fucking trashs, and only mutts play it in eng anyway
>>1646058>Pressure on Azur Promilia is very high. Fights between teams, overnight direction changes, replacing employees like drinking water. It's difficult to tell the game's future.QRD?
>>1646063no news for half a year was too much for chink social media addicts and they start making shit up
>>1645898>>1646065
>>1646063When the game came out ML players (including azur lane playerbase) were mad that the game wasn't 16+ and that it had a female MC, there was also drama about there being hidden male characters in the game. According to leaks/rumors this led to huge conflict within the AP team, some artists/writers even left the company. It's unknown if they've finally settled on a direction or if there's still internal conflicts going on.
>>1646058Well, supposedly they are going to delay the very last region a WHOLE FUCKING YEARA whole year, wtf is that? The game had a steady release for each region and suddenly, the most hyped region will probably be delayed this much?
>>1646058Interviewer (12): Since the labor cost is not worth mentioning, why lay off employees? I heard that in the past year, even with the new recruits, the number of employees at Mi has decreased a lot. The same is true for Zhou. Moreover, even if the data of the ZMD test in January is not good, there will be big things to come.Executive Brother (12): Because the essence of layoffs is not to lay off this person, but to cut off the business related to him. In fact, based on the mysterious principle of organizational science, the more employees there are, the more complicated the business connections are. Costs will also increase exponentially with the increase in the number of employees. So if Mi opens three games, the cost is not as simple as 1+1. If we don't lay off employees, the cost will rise to an unacceptable number.By the way, the money for building a building is not unaffordable for Mi, but it is also very uncomfortable because it is pure expenditure. This is also a common mistake made by companies in the expansion period, overestimating their growth and surplus.In short, among the many costs in the game industry, the only one that is lower than everyone thinks is the social management cost. Oh, by the way, there is also the cost of the two-dimensional character making a phone call, which is also super cheap. The two-dimensional is really easy to fool~ small fish, small fish~ (laugh)I'm surprised the phone call marketing is actually cheap
>>1646068>seanig cowtits blacked ntr artist got firedYeah, what about it? His style obviously doesn't fit a 12+ CGDCT game and he got caught recycling his old art recentlyIs him getting fired supposed to be evidence of something?
>>1646074He was apparently working on AP as well. No idea what his job was but it's a good thing he got fired.
>>1646074>a 12+ CGDCT gameDoes this look like a 12+ character to you?
>Before 2024, the second-tier games were all blue oceans. Everyone made a living based on their own abilities. In fact, there was not much hostility between them. For example, the players of Zhou (Kuro?) and Mi(hoyo) quarreled fiercely, but in fact, the relationship between the middle and senior management of both sides was quite good. The daily topic at the table was to laugh at the players as XX. There were also cases where all the manufacturers united to deal with the players and guide the direction. When I first started to hang out in the second-tier game circle, I was also surprised for a long time. I can only say that in the incremental market, anything can happen.they played us like a goddamn fiddle
>>1646076>safe horny spatsyes, genshin and zzz is lewder than that
>>1646077>they played us like a goddamn fiddleNo, dumbass. Only retards like you and the other gacha schizos have this mentality of attacking other games without any reason at all.It's well known that hoyo employees wuwa, and kuro employees play genshin. Hell, there were hoyo employees in the past c105 comiket buying wuwa merch.This shit is literally console wars but in gachaslop.
>>1645949>>1646025>>1646027>>1646028
>>1646076>googoo gaga I'm a baby gib mommy milkyes, looks about right
>>1645197>How come the only ones engaging in gacha drama are always dead game fags?Because most people here don't speak moonrunes so only CN dramas from popular brands like mihomo got mentioned occasionally, but if you care about westernshits there are a lot of them.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHE6sMLXuOI
>>1645915
Netease's new open world "Where Winds Meet" is exploding due to an outrageous new system.The game advertises itself as either being able to be played online or single player. Either way, it has a crime system where you can commit crimes which will put a bounty on your head, and then if npcs kill you you will be sent to jail where you have to spend some time there or pay the bounty to go free immediately.The outrage is because when you have a bounty, other players can INVADE and PvP you for rewards, even if you're in singleplayer mode. It's basically Dark Souls invasion system but you can't even opt out of it. Also, after you hit lvl 15 there's no more protection so you can even be invaded and oneshotted by someone who's lvl 50. There's no CD on being invaded, you can be invaded at any time even when doing story quests. You can also repeatedly spend money to get someone invaded so many times until they quit.Imagine if Ananta has a similar system...
>>1646091I heard that this game has no monetization system except skins (which is only 7 yuan). Guess they couldnt find any better way and enforced PvP now
>>1646091Just don't commit crimes?
>>1646058Azur Promilia is in an awkward position anyway. People make fun of Genshin for having kiddy-tier gameplay and toddler-tier puzzles but Azur Promilia is literally a pokemon-like farming game for kids and women wrapped up in coompandering for otaku males. Absolute worst combination and 100% flopping against Ananta/Endfield.
>>1645960>oh no woe is meServes them right. They have always been the invaders/
>>1646058tl;dr anything that isn't mentioned here will have a healthy community.
>internal tester say ananta is better in every way than nte (alien ring) and it isnt on the same level.So NTE and Wangyue are basically dead?
>>1646058>Pressure on Azur Promilia is very high. Fights between teams, overnight direction changes, replacing employees like drinking water. It's difficult to tell the game's future.oh no oh nono no no no no
Azur Lane (Global) is hit by censorship, it's the first time that it happens on global.the global version is no longer safe from censorship.
>>1645895no thats /wuwa/ and /snowg/
>>1646122its so unfair that LAD got away scot-free when male oriented games got hit
>>1646124mindbroken
>>1646122This is why you shouldn't have faith in Azur Promilia
What are the chances of a CN-JP gacha game happening? JP company could handle design work, publishing and circumvent CN censorship, while CN company could lead in the technical aspects.
>>1646126ok but is it wrong? can you tell me those threads are not filled with chinks?
>>1646124This is bug colony, literal infestation, do you even see 3/4 the posts in here? Watch.动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
>>1646130That's nothing but wishful thinking. Your best bet would be waiting for the koreans to get their shit together.
>>1646126I don't know about /wuwa/ but he is absolutely correct about /snowg/.
Here's your new Kiana bro. It has the chinese dress aesthetics you love so much.
>>1646132Nigger this pasta is so st
>>1646135/wuwa/ and /snowg/ are the only threads were people praise their chinese overlords and get upset if you shit on chinks, you could even get banned for doing so.
>>1646083Big if true.
>>1646132I need the japanese version of this chink runes pasta
>>1646142>/wuwa/ and /snowg/ are the only threads were people praise their chinese overlords>the only threadsWhat the fuck are you talking about>/1999/>/alg/>/pgr/>/socg/>/ptng/>/gfg/ >/pg/ (I used to lurk in that general and they seem to like p5x)All these generals love to be CN overlords' filial sons
>>1646151gfg shits on chinks all the time tho?>socgI could probably ctrl+f the times "chinkschizo" has been used there or the months people have spent shitting on chinks or laughing at chinksChinks post all over 4chan but only a few generals welcome them, embrace them and treat whatever their nga/tieba overlords say like gospel instead of laughing at it like schizo shit or calling them retarded cucks obsessed with NTR
>>1646151>/gfg/>loves CNlmfao
>>1646133>Your best bet would be waiting for the koreans to get their shit together.I wouldn't trust those gooks either. They're greedy af, remember how Nikke censored itself before it even launched and then censored even more shit and tame down the (You) pandering later on, fucking sellout trying to get normalfag money.It's a damn shame cause I know very well KR can do great pandering in the domestic market and I love their writings a lot but the moment they want to expand and milk global players for more cash they become greedy chaebols.
>>1645960>Only got in because saw huge profit>Quit when money is downClassic women, can't stay loyal forever eh.
>>1646151Really don't think /gfg/ or /alg/ like them very much after the repeated attempts to shit up their generals with drama or made up bullshit.
>>1646156Don't forget that they're never improving their game. Something like AL 3D dorm or HI3 content won't happen because SK companies are greedy. They'll just use their money for creating another game.
>>1646119Ananta is from a NetEase-backed studio and already developed years before NTE. No way it's on the same level with Hottaslop.
>>1646151Now this is good bait
>>1646156That's the thing. They censored their game by their own volition, not because of the government.
[Happy News] Kuro has released an internal letter saying that Wuthering Waves 2.0 launch was a success among players, and it had the highest single-day revenue since the launch of the game! Players can now feel secure and spend as much money as possible on Wuwa, because it's not going away anytime soon!
>>1646174grim, they are reaching guilongchao's state
>>1646058>all this doom and gloom>>GFL2 is doing pretty well actuallyWhat a funny timeline this is
>>1646177GFL2 was pretty much a shell of a game as Mica was doing rewrites for most of the starter events. Iirc CN only got like maybe 10 minutes of story and that was it per month. The game post-Klukai is in a much better state.
>>1646174>failed to get #1 on any store worldwide>still had the best revenuethats fucking grim
>>1646181I imagine, I just think it's funny people in this very thread were saying it was a flop, and now not even the chinese can say that.Some people here are too emotionally invested in dramashit. You're supposed to enjoy the shitshow.
>>1646138God Kiana truly was a mistake.
>>1646184>You're supposed to enjoy the shitshow.Pretty sure 99% of this thread, /vg/, /v/, nga and tieba don't see gacha drama as entertainment but as a way to attack 'rival' games or games they don't like while shilling games they like and it always ends up being retarded.>Don't play X game!! Dramafags told me you get cucked and that the gameplay is 1 button!>Play my game instead!!Then you actually try out said game and it's rotten dogshit but if you explain exactly what you didn't like about it then you get framed as a tourist or as a mad/jealous Yfag.
>>1646188It isn't even comparable. They butchered everything about her.
>>1646189>Then you actually try out said game and it's rotten dogshit but if you explain exactly what you didn't like about it then you get framed as a tourist or as a mad/jealous Yfag.If majority of people actually played the games that are talked about here half the "discussion" would fall apart since everyone would know what is and isn't a load of shit. Instead you have people who believe word of mouth on 4chan of all places because who would lie on the internet.
>>1646193They probably played them but are far more interested in pushing a narrative and painting the competition as bad while they applaud themselves as the best thing to have ever come out
>>1646190What I mean is they saw how popular she was so they started copy pasta her bare shoulder dress thing onto every girls.
>>1646189gacha wars are the most retarded thing to have ever happened in our lifetimeswhy the fuck cant I just talk about videogames? why are there so many fucking autists that tied their entire self-worth and identity to a shitty gacha game? so many retards on this awful fucking site act like loyal soldiers of games defending them with their life while blindly shitting on everything else like the mere thought of someone enjoying something else upsets them
How come wuthering waves threads on /v/ are just one tripfag samefagging himself? is the game doing that badly?
>>1646204He just killed discussion in that board because he's a fucking attention whore autist
>>1646138why
>>1646216because HI3 is a series of horrible decisions that no one spoke against until it affected their favorite character
>>1646197Because people have somehow deluded themselves into thinking their live service gacha doing well = the time they invested isn't wasted, devs will reinvest more money into the game, their gacha is now safe from EoS, etc.
>>1645947Some better summary
>>1646151>/gfg/>Chinese overlordsJust because king chong is memed doesn't mean they comply with CN niggery
>>1646189>99% of this thread, /vg/, /v/, nga and tieba don't see gacha drama as entertainment but as a way to attack 'rival' games or games they don't like while shilling games they likeI can't imagine being a spiritual shareholder like that. These companies dying won't change your life.
>>1646237You don't have to imagine, you have them all here and all over the site.Wuwa being the best current example, most of kuro's loyal soldiers would offer their lives and the lives of others if it meant the game improves or that they can stick it to hoyo.
>>1646242>the game improvesKuro's most loyal soldiers don't even play, I know of at least 1 PGR whale that damage controls for Kuro in wuwa general all day, and the dude didn't even max exploration in the starter area 4 months in
>>1646058Plebs mad that Mica chooses to make their game an XCOM slop instead of an action/shooter slop, but they are the only XCOM slop in the gacha scene.
>>1646245>whales>doesn't even play the game>still acts like an unpaid shillMan that's so fucking sad. Wuwa's community in general is so fucking sad.
Google starts going after games nowAzure lane is the first victimhttps://x.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1875193112445989124
>>1646135To be fair, Snowbreak devs haven't done anything to shit on their fanbase. All of that game's drama is because of outside parties trying to fuck with it.
>>1646250>To be fair, Snowbreak devs haven't done anything to shit on their fanbase.lmfaoGod you fucks are so pathetic
Now seasun's loyal soldiers join the fray
>>1646245>>1646247Why would a whale max out exploration? That shit is only for scraching whatever gacha currency you need, a whale doesn't need thatI also know whales in genshin that the fuckers barely have 50% of exploration done even by nowYou should at least take 30 secs to try rationalize things like that before just hitting the post button, although maybe I'm asking too much from you
>>1646256I expect you to explore in an exploration game. Maybe not 100% but at least the majority of the map.
>>1646256>Why would a whale play the game they paid for?are you being serious right now
>>1646256Gacha players act like this then wonder why their games are dying
>>1646260Bro, some whales even pay people to play game for them
>>1646262While I can see some retard unironically doing that, I still want to ask for an example.
>>1646258Picking up an exploration game, dumping thousands then not playing is so funny. So funny and so sad.
>>1646263check out epicnpc servicesaccount maids is pretty popular where you pay someone a fee (usually peanuts) to do dailies on your account so they can comeback whenever they want to and not have missed anything
>>1646242When your figurehead community e-celeb is the game's biggest shill, what do you think the player base is going to be like? It's insane how these wuwa players have a chinese multimillionaire CEO's cock down their throats, treating Solon like some god.
>>1646263Try searching for genshin boosting serviceThere are so many from doing dailies to clearing the whole story
>>1646267>It's insane how these wuwa players have a chinese multimillionaire CEO's cock down their throats, treating Solon like some god.I hate this so much. Everyone in /wuwa/ treats solon like he's some kind of benevolent god that can't do any wrong and the savior of gacha.
>>1646267Dear God, I can smell the curry from here
>>1646252hello again snowseether
>>1646266>>1646268Damn you people weren't joking
What high budget no-male game are we waiting for?
>>1646258That's just how some players are.I love doing the 100% of each area, but I've asked some of my friends why they don't do it and they say that it just gets boring after a while, and when you start to leave areas without 100%, it starts to pile up and it's over.
>>1646309azur promiliaproject rxproject c
>>1646181They don't even do anything drastic, not even "suddenly ramping up the fanservice" because it's there since the beginning. All they do is slowly adding QoL and completing unfinished content.
>>1646327They did add oaths.I thought I remember seeing a datamine that oath files were in the game before they even announced it not quite sure about the timeline.
>>1645771>no more chests scattered around the map, every sub area has a designated "combat zone" and "chest collection zone" where 5 chests sit in the open and you just walk in and take themIs there a problem with this?I despise Genshin (and WuWa)'s messy chest placement like you know, who puts treasure chests in the middle of nowhere. Even shitty h-game devs who using RPG makers know where to place the chests.
>>1646328The oath lines were found early in the datamine, yeah. That's not shifting gear into something the game originally wasn't. Even the dorm feature that people often call a desperate attempt was already teased since 2021 beta test.https://youtube.com/watch?v=xGjv7nDame0
>>1646330Imagine Burger King removing burgers off the menuit's like that
>Go open a chest in the new wuwa update>Lol it was a mimic>Go open a different one>mimic again get trolledwas it really necessary to add this?
>>1646331>inital beta test dorm>heavily implied sexI am getting tired of Groza Frontline.
>>1646327imo CN being released like a beta did more damage to it than the NTR drama people love to talk about it, reason you can see how the global release with all the content ready had such a great month overall.
>>1646333>food analogyfatamerican, alright
>>1646344Nah, the NTR shitstorm caused so much seething and raiding there was basically no fanbase for the entire of the game's early lifespam. It was impossible to make content without getting spammed.
>>1646220We'll never get her back. I wish buying character designs from corporations was a thing.
>>1646347Not just any food, mind you
>>1646348iirc I think it just added fire to the shitstorm desu, I remember talking with old GF1 friends during the CN release and how much they're annoyed with not only the writing for the early chapters but also things from bugs (like that one that deleted important files from system32 or something like that) to the gacha itself. outside the drama about the GF2 team thinking they're better than the legacy one according to one of those friends
>>1646356That's the thing, the thing you described in the spoiler is something some account on NGA said. Chinks invented a lot of shit about them and nobody can give you an actual source besides he said she said.Nikke's release was also a buggy mess without a really good story, and it still built a fanbase. The NTRshit was certainly what killed the game for almost a year.
>>1646366Yes, that's why I left that in the spoiler, most of drama bait that comes out of CN is what you described, all speculation with 0 proof. Another thing some of said friends say and I kinda agree is how the new designs for the dolls are lacking for the gun autism they liked (for example lin+ designs that incorporated some gun lore to the AR-15 stuff) but they pretty much accepted that GF2 isn't a gun girl game anymore but rather a girls with guns one.NIKKE I think could survive just because of how generous they made the gacha to be honest, I remember a lot of people in my granblue circle praising it like the second coming of KMR.
>>1646344CN released like a beta because Mica is a 3 dudes in a shack type of sweatshop with a total budget of 15 million dollars.They simply weren't capable of both making the changes and releasing the game properly. The correct move was to just ignore and keep working to release global earlierChink dramafags unironically got too cocky, the only lesson other devs will learn from this is that kneeling to demands is bad because those people won't play regardless.The "ML movement" is pretty much dead in the water now and you have GFL2 global to thank for that
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>>16457712.0 should have been 1.0 honestly, the game is much better.Sadly, the community only gets worse every day and interacting with the retards that make up the playerbase of this makes me want to go postal. I swear it was easier to get Genshin discussion during 1.x than this shit.
>>1646379>The "ML movement" is pretty much deadLaDS exist thought, at this point I feel like using the ML movement is just the same of saying everything that is happening in your game is because of the feminist sleeper agent that sabotaged your favorite game. Just my 2 cents but every game that has a decline in some way is because the lack of content period, the drama around it comes later after people are dissatisfied with it or just grifting in general (like a tectone but chinese), you can see it live when the revenue posting comes and every game that doesn't make 10K a month is EoS. I guess people just get way too much invested in that and that's pretty much not healthy, just enjoy your game and ignore 90% of the drama, if you're not enjoying it just quit and ignore.
>>1646250This schizo conspiracy theory wll never be true. They bit off more then they could chew and now have to bend over trying to appease the most degen shitters ever found And let's say it was true. How is it that they are so incompetent that they keep on allowing other companies to infiltrate them?
>>1646391Truly a mystery, snowbreak gets infiltrated and targeted every day but bigger games never have to deal with it.Maybe, just maybe, it's that they aren't getting infiltrated but that the devs are incompetent cunts and are weaponizing chink autism and scapegoating someone everyone hates to look good in front of their players? Surely everyone would forgive you if you tell them that the feminists did it right?
>>1646391>How is it that they are so incompetentI give 3 theories for that, first that the lead was both on snowbreak and mechabreak after the ani, second the team was never one that big considering they had some of the mechabreak team helping them during the anniversary, and lastly all the censorship hammers they got after said ani. If anything I think the team is overworked as hell + needing to appease to a crazy fanbase that gets more paranoid after every single drama.
>>1646392Don't say that bro. There gonna go on stream again and start crying. They might even give out there writers addresses this time to keep the blame off themselves
>>1646396>They might even give out there writers addresses this time to keep the blame off themselvesits actually pretty funny they put out the name of the writer on every story now so the blame can go to them instead of the devs
>>1646394>>1646392Is it true the chink playerbase was angry at one of the devs for having a real gf? Or was the just a schizo rumour>>1646398I remember when Septem came out in fgo and it was so shit that peole went after Sakurai. Nasu decided keep the writers anonymous from then on to protect people after thatSay what you want about him but he's loyal to his writers while protecting them and dosent let insane fans bully him
The two worst communities for game discussion are also the two communities with the most chinks and the most obsessed with circlejerking themselvesCoincidence? I think not
>>1646392Reminder that the infiltrator also put a Tiananmen Square reference on one of the weapons. I'm sure he was counting on the CCP cracking down on Seasun and shutting them down. These people are so insane they would risk sending others to gulag just because of fanservice.
>>1646385>LaDSChinese male MC schizos trying to claim ownership of a porn game for women that can only exist because of double standards in the legal system was easily the most bizarre thing to come out of gacha spaceLike these people legit wreck anywhere they go to so hard, they're left pretending to care about something completely unrelated because nothing else even meets their schizo standards, how funny is that
>>1646403Reminder that the patch wouldn't have even gone live if the devs spent an hour or two doing some quick quality check
>>1646383You’re right, the community is so ass. Any discussion not outright praising the game you’ll be labeled as the competitor game’s shill. There are some insane mental gymnastics the community always wants to go through to prove wuthering waves is the best game ever.
I am the inflitrator in snowbreak. Ask me anything
>>1646401I'm not sure but I wouldn't be surprised if it was true since the community for snowbreak is always looking for an excuse to be mad at the devs or the game. Opposite from Wuwa where the community is always looking for an excuse to dickride Solon and shit on hoyo.Most of my anger towards snowbreak comes from the shitshow that was the Sands of Secret patch. Everything about it was awful from what they did with the patch, the dev response, the community response and the resulting fallout.
>>1646404I mean, schizos are always the worst part of any gacha game, but the CN dramas almost makes me miss the EN Xitter dramas in genshin about dark skinned sumerians and ENVAs being creepy around kids. For me LaDS will just get bigger because of being the only ML game for female players that didn't want gay shit or shipping (Wasn't this described in their terms or something?).
>>1646406I think Wuthering Waves is a decently fun game that has its moments. Combat is most definitely better than genshin, like there isn't even a comparison. But it falls short when compared to a more modern game like ZZZ that has all the modern QoL and engine changes.Also yeah, you could be posting your progress on the story and enjoying the game but the second you stop praising kuro and dickriding kuro is the moment they start seething about hoyo out of nowhere and melting down. Actually insane how the genshin copy even managed to copy the schizophrenia from genshin communities.
>>1646405If the industry wasn't crawling with feminist zealots an unchecked patch would only have spelling errors at most. I don't fault chinks for being schizophrenic when that's what the have to deal with. I could believe that the Raymond drama was sabotage too.
I noticed something. Men dont seethe at LaDs as much as tranny women do. They fucking hate straight women more then men sometimes I feelhttps://x.com/blodynynygofod/status/1874990967591493821?t=5j99WQZDzjf8mtQ5gcJHHA&s=19
We can settle for that the chink mind is an enigma that we can never grasp
Chinks shouldnt have murdered there baby daughters and maybe this wouldn't have happened
Play korean gachas.
>>1646414I had fun with the new patch. Worst part is how gutted exploration feels. Carlotta was written decently well for (you)bait, and I am hoping Zani turns out to he a good slow burn kind of deal, since most games don't do that kind of writing.Comparing it to ZZZ isn't necessarily fair, but Kuro could steal some of the better ideas from them.
>>1646415>>1646417Isn't CN forums is some sort of gender war like in Korea with both getting schizo against each other?
>>1646415>If the industry wasn't crawling with feminist zealots an unchecked patch would only have spelling errors at most.lol noQCing is one of the most important steps of development, you don't just finish something and push it to live. Companies are salesmen and they should make sure their product works before shipping it out instead of just throwing it out and hoping for the best.>>1646419Brown Dust 2 arguably has a community about as schizophrenic as Snowbreak's. Both are small unpopular games with a crazy persecution complex and a sense of superiority over everyone else.
>>1646422Yeah, and both are the consequence of letting women into influential positions.
>>1646425It's men who stated the gender gacha wars by being cat killers.Scaramouche mindbroke them
>>1646420Yeah I'm having fun with the new patch too. I'm not shitting on wuwa, I think both games occupy different niches where ZZZ's niche is being an arena fighter that can afford to polish their combat while Wuwa is an exploration game about experiencing the open world.I do think that the combat in ZZZ is definitely above wuwa's tho but kuro could definitely copy some of their better QoL changes such as the ability to run the weekly bosses as many times as you want.
>>1646422>>1646425Korean women are gonna take the birthrate cause of that. North Korea is gonna invade so easily atp
>>1646427The war had already begun way before that when games started getting censored left and right.
/wuwa/ is like the church in rinascita where they brand everyone that doesn't want to be part of the circlejerk as fools and banishes them from their city
>>1646122??? this is the most random arbitrary thing. I've never heard of google play store censoring anything, i looked up the outfits, they're not even the most lewd outfits in the game. There are games right now with lewder stuff, and azur lane has lewder stuff. Something is up, i highly doubt google told them to remove them, google deals with 1000s of games, they care about malicious code, they don't look through a companies skin catalog.
>>1646439>>1646439>>1646439New!
>>1646190>>1646351White Comet will forever be the best Hoyo design in my eyes (though Mona comes pretty close). Looking back it's a damn shame 90% of the game didn't even TRY to match this level of sexo.>>1646220Himekofag here. Don't remind me...
>>1646429I haven't played a second of ZZZ, can you explain to me why you think it's combat is better than wuwa? For reference I've played almost every character action game (bayonetta, DMC, metal gear raising, etc), and almost every hunting game (monster hunter, soul sacrifice, toukiden, freedom wars, god eater, etc). If it has good tech like dodge offset, meaties, roman cancels, and stuff like that I would be interested.
>>1646609https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdu5yLO9lkc&t=3463sThere's a youtuber here that compares the dodge of Genshin, Wuwa and ZZZ here. It's just the dodge and not the combat but it's a good start on why the combat feels a lot more fluid and better.The combat in ZZZ is way faster, feels more fluid, isn't held back by exploration since it's a combat game first and foremost instead of an open world exploration game and has a lot of endgame challenges for those who want a challenge. Just in case, the endgame challenges are for players at the endgame. Not for players at level 10 that just started since a lot of people think that the game is going to throw them off the deep end five minutes into the game.
>>1646612So, the dodge "feels" better and that's it? I looked at the combat and every character plays the same, it's literally 1 button mashing and occasionally switching characters. It's worse than dynasty warriors (and that's the simplest, most baby game I can think of). Thanks for the effort anyways bro.
>>1646635np, my bad for trying to reason with a kurocuckhope you enjoy mintpicking and seething endlessly about hoyo
The future looks bright Ananta bros
