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>>1646435Not the first time google makes retarded decisions but looks like it was a direct takedown from them. Atago skin for example is a very old one but was probably hit for arbitrary reasons (Just like every decision google did in the past 20 years).
I'm going to say the S word.
A wuthering waves picture for the gacha drama thread is perfect since they're the #1 source of gacha drama with their constant whining and crying
Updated dec 2024 redditvenue chart(1.75 mult)
is it true gfl2 almost failed until they introduced the dormitory system
>>1646451the fuck?
I noticed something. Men dont seethe at LaDs as much as tranny women do. They fucking hate straight women more then men sometimes I feel
>>1646455>trans flag>mihoyo pfpCheck's out.
>>1646442>>1646439werent these pictures made by a hoyo drawfag? funny how they became go-to pictures to shitpost for /wuwa/
>>1646453No.https://youtube.com/watch?v=xGjv7nDame0It was teased 3 years before release during CBT, and the feature was available since launch day.
>>1646455why would i care if women get games that pander specifically to them? that's a good thing, we need more containment games
>>1646463This is the difference between men and women. Men won't go schizo over fanservice games for women. At most they will just point out the hypocrisy. Meanwhile women will see a female character show a bit of leg and take it personally.
does dawei own 10% of LADS?
>>1646464Meanwhile schizos in this thread have a mental breakdown over games with both.
>pantsu and exposed tummyGenshin is healing
>>1646468what character is that evenI cant see shit
>>1646469i think it's hu tao's new skin
>>1646439>https://poal.me/dqygb9https://poal.me/dqygb9>https://poal.me/dqygb9https://poal.me/dqygb9
>>1646468sexo
It's over for Azur Lane
>>1646453NoNot even the daiyan fiasco did it in
looks like the ML side got everything they wanted.what are you going to complain about now?
>>1646474Mixed gender with more girls than dudes is way better because it keeps the yuricucks awayWaifu only stuff means the yurifags will derail everything into gayshit
>>1646490?
>>1646490i'm gonna channel my final wrath onto star rail
>>1646490They'll probably gather around Nornium only to find something to complain about anyways. The game looks like woman/normalfag filter incarnate but I wouldn't be surprised if the devs end up pissing off the MLfags somehow
>>1646490>all upcoming games are mixed toilet>ML wonwat? maybe LaDS won, that's about it
>>1646490One must remain ever vigilant.
>>1646490How did we win?
>>1646506Notice how xe/xim ignores your post.
>>1646498Delusional. The odd males just attract shippers and other mentally ill women and turn the fandom to shit.
>>1646498Also works as a save patch.
>>1646523>Mentally ill womenMore like mentally ill chinks>AIEEEE I-I-IS THAT A MALE? IS HE TALKING TO MY GIRL? NOOOOOOOOO FUCK THIS NTR GAME I'M OUThow come we never had this issue until a few years ago when the ML movement was established?
>>1646528COVID happened, crazy isn't?
>>1646510B-but genshin returned to its roots...
>>1646465>On September 29, Papergames borrowed money from Mihoyo and made it public. According to published information, the 6 million shares mortgaged to Mihoyo are worth about 10% of Papergames' shares.Hoyo doesn't own anything until Papergames default on the loan.
>>1646528>how come we never had this issue until a few years ago when the ML movement was established?Buckbroken hoyoniggers. It's their baby first gacha, you see.
>previous thread #7>current thread #9why even discuss sales when OP can't do kindergarten math
>>1646540It's not hoyo though, this garbage infects literally every game.
It's funny how that graph is so different from the statistics for top grossing 2024 according to AppMagic, so I guess there are made-up numbers.
>>1646541he used the android multiplier
>>1646558/r/gachagaming, where the "earnings" graph is from, is literally owned by chinese propagandists.
>>1646558>lads nowhere to be seenI'm noticing.
>>1646558damn dude its almost like the numbers are all made up or something
>>1646544To many credits, Genshin being released during covid and attracting not only people that never played a gacha game but also a lot of mentally broken people that lost social cues thanks to being quarantine helps on the case. Like ML and (you) pandering existed as long gacha games existed, kancolle being the oldest I can remember, FGO that pivoted the term and granblue (Can't say if Rage of Bahamut had it since all I can remember from it was the cards) and even some slop like Valkyrie Crusade. Thinking how people got a lot more attached to gacha characters after being stuck inside for a long period of time is somehow the only explanation I can think of to describe how insufferable most of these dramas have been, but also on general online discourse, as an example like how people knew how to consume anime/manga without crying that the shounen anime doesn't have yuri or that the female character has big boobs on it.
>>1646572We didn't have this obsession with cuckoldry during 1.0 genshin though. It exploded around 3.0 with Sumeru and it's been gaining momentum with Snowbreak, Wuthering Waves and other similar ""ML"" games.Though brant and roccia being together in nearly every scene for rinascita means that maybe kuro regrets trying to pander to the ML audience
>>1646574The concerns with "cuckoldry" first arose in 2021 when perfectly ordinary anime designs got censored because femcels cried to the CCP about them. This showed that Mihomo used male players as paypig cucks to satisfy female players. A deluge of precensored designs, void ass, Sumeru and the entire year of homos brought this issue to a boiling point. So cries about "cuckoldry" aren't about NTR, it's about creating anything that male players don't explicitly want.
>>1646574If anything is just a reflection of it, I don't think it's something that can happen in a few months but rather years of isolation. Correct me if I'm wrong (I didn't look into genshin drama much after I dropped it before Scara was made into a good boy) but the whole crux of that was because people became over affectionate with Nahida that when she adopted scara, the smug villain that could be easily used as the NTR Shota troupe, they went full retarded at the point of killing cats because fan artists used to draw him like that?They're pretty much the same as an Idol Otaku that spends all his time online obsessed with his Idol of choice and I just think the quarantine just helped creating more of these.The only thing I can remember from Genshin before the Cat drama is the censorship ones like Rosaria's boob reduction and the revised skins for CN.
>>1646572because tourists obssessed with gender identity and politics entered the hobby. They saw yuri, and thought, oh cool I'm being pandered to, this is "LGBT" stuff, when in actuallity it wasn't. They started all the cringe shipping shit, which i didn't even know the term till recently, and I've been watching anime since the 90s. See how they call harem anime "incel pandering", when it's been around forever, since otaku are the target audience. Then they're obnoxious about it telling companies they need to adhere to their standards of only adding troonshit. I never had a problem in BL anime or yuri, or shit like that, because it wasn't for me, it was made for people into that, so I ignored it and watched whatever I liked. But these people don't think like that, they need everyone to pander to them and only to them. That's why they didn't get angry during Sumeru, but they're angry now during Natlan. They just want to takeover the hobby and destroy it, then move onto the next thing.
>>1646581>They started all the cringe shipping shit, which i didn't even know the term till recently, and I've been watching anime since the 90sShipping has been around since Gundam, Saint Seiya etc times. It's not a recent development but were just young and ignorant of it.
>>1646585i'm aware of that, i'm talking about the modern obssession with it, to the point where they are harrassing artists, and anyone who dares threaten their headcanons. people shit on the ML people, but shiptroons are the other side of the coin
>>1646580>but the whole crux of thatThe whole crux of it was that chinks hated scara from the very beginning. 3.2 story has Nahida spare scara and turn him into her errand boy when chinks wanted him to get killed like signora.3.3 was just shilling scara harder and the cuckposting reached a fever pitch when Nahida showed up with Scara at the end of some event. Chinks basically hated Scara so much that they shat on the entire region and the archon of said region with it because you literally couldn't and still can't mention Nahida without someone cuckposting or seething over scara/sumeru.People complain about the mentally ill shippers and yurifags but the other side is insanely bad too because all the screeching about NTR and cuckoldry ruins characters for everyone as much or worse than the shippers/yurifags do.
>>1646561kek
>>1646581This anon is right. The ML movement is a reaction to the hobby being taken over by invaders. Nobody complained about Honkai being yuri back then because Hoyo still wasn't afraid of fanservice and pandered to (you) during Captain events. It's good to see that they are finally being repelled.
>>1646574Nigga you wot. People constantly cuckposting keqing and then there was that thoma being ayaka's husband thing. Also diluc and jean
>>1646590The ML movement is schizophrenia and a bunch of kids throwing a tantrum>IF WE CANT ENJOY THIS THEN NOBODY WILLSo now normal people have to dodge ML chinks, yurifags, shippers, fujos, homos and cucks because chinks are mentally ill
>>1646592And I blame thiccwithanigger (nyantcha) for Ganyu cuckposting with Childe
>>1646588If anything I think using NTR is both seething from people that dislike it in general but also a form to attack said fans of the character, I did forget that but like the anon above said, being a keq loyal sucked ass back then since people would just meme hilichurl rape because you liked a bad character (metawise).>>1646594>The ML movement is schizophrenia and a bunch of kids throwing a tantrumThat's just when is a male oriented type tho, see if anyone is throwing a tantrum about LaDS outside when they had in game a term telling they didn't want BL or shipping in their game (not like the BL/Yaoi side of gacha isn't already filled with some sort of game).
>>1646590>ML movement>top games are mixed toilets except for a men only gameUhhhh bros I thought women had no money. Lads doesn't even have fujo money because it's banned
>>1646574Brant and roccia are just the aalto/encore duo of rinascita
>>1646601yeah except they removed EVERYTHING related to Aalto from encore's lines.Encore used to mention Aalto a lot and her death line used to be "Save me Aalto oniichan" but they removed that
ML is a reaction to feminists and troons invading the gacha space, which have always been about waifus, and making everything censored and gay.Honestly the whole situation is so similar to what's going on in the western world that it's interesting. Two opposite sides of the world going through the same thing but in different ways. Every single massive budget AAA game last year flopped horribly. Why? Because people are fucking sick of ugly ass niggers and woman built like fridges in their games. How did this happen? Feminists and troons getting jobs at these places.Whether it's gacha or other games, if these developers force their gay shit and censored female designs into video games, it's going to flop. And they have only themselves to blame.
>>1646607ML is schizophrenia and chinks thinking they're terrorists holding games hostage or threatening to kill entire games because their imaginary waifu talked to another imaginary maleWe had harems since forever and those were never a problem but now a bunch of manchildren want to feel powerful and control everything. I'm glad every ML flagship is sinking horribly because not even a bullet could cure this mental illness since they'd just return as vengeful spirits to cry about imaginary NTR.
>>1646590>Nobody complained about Honkai being yuri back then because Hoyo still wasn't afraid of fanservice>fanserviceI dunno man, it felt like they really went through a faggot phase from HoV to Flamescion. Swimsuits basically stopped existing until the Flamechasers showed up.
>>1646607>gacha space, which have always been about waifusEarliest gacha games always had omnipandering games (see Squenix, COLOPL, Sega titles) alongside female-only and male-only games.The waifu-only gacha era never existed.
>>1646610Sorry Sis, LADS isn't going anywhere.
>>1646613Even the biggest was fgo which was omni pandering. Female only gachas never came close
>>1646615FGO is real omnipandering, People love to claim mihoyoslop is omnipandering but it is hard to claim that when nobody gets anything but crumbs.
>>1646613>Earliest gacha games always had omnipandering games
>>1646618>kancolle is the only gacha game ever
>>1646586were you not in the digimon forums back in the day lol. Or even naruto...
waifu games are gonna keep on failing cause there are to many of them. The bubble will burst soon
>>1646620It's one of the earliest ones with things like Rage of Bahamut or Puzzle & Dragons. I don't think omni pandering was a staple for the early gachas but rather their themes around it. Kancolle for the military otaku that liked military x anime girl stuff, Baha for the fantasy heads and P&D for just the cute aesthetics.FGO is pretty much surfing in the Fate franchise and it's fans instead of being because the omnipandering and Touken Ranbu is probably the oldest yume/fujo game I can remember but is pretty much bishounen + sword lore.
>>1646620Kancolle spawned it's own subgenre. We got AL and GFL out of it.
>>1646541Because >>1636605 is not the 7th thread.This one was the 7th >>1625410And this one,the 6th one, was properly numbered. >>1602303
>>1646607True. ML movement is the same thing as anti-woke movement. The crux of a problem is company forgetting their fans and pursuing non-existent customer.
>>1646625>The bubble will burst soonyes, please hold your breath, it will happen any moment, i promise
>>1646611Swimsuits never returned to HI3. They're "summer costumes" now.
>>1646645vns are pretty much dead after gachas replaced them what was the last big one fruit of gracia or whatever
>>1646629>muh tidiness>in a shitpost centralAppreciate your autism anon but really you don't have to.
>>1646618Desu there's a lot of /u/shit on kancolle.
>>1646610Is Schizophrenia your new catchphrase, faggotbro? Where's your usual femorrhoid word?
>>1646646I mean last time I checked (around herscherr of finality or whatever its called) some of them at least LOOKED like swimsuits instead of color vomit casual wear. Maybe they went back to the latter for Part 2 or something
>>1646650It's simply noticing patterns breaking. And then correcting it.Like misplaced furniture.Plus im not OP
>>1646649VN's aren't even close to dead, they're shit out incessantly every year, but I'm referring to waifu games dying, that's never happening, unless there's some kind of generational shift where gen alpha hates waifus or something, which they don't, they embrace it
>>1646453>is it true gfl2 almost failed until they introduced the dormitory systemGF2 doesn't even have a proper dorm system yet. If you want a boring, non-interactive first person view where you can't move or do anything, that's already in the game.But if you're looking for a real dorm where you can walk around and interact with characters like in Snowbreak, then they still haven't added it even though Yz promised it months ago (what the fuck is Mica even doing?).And while Snowbreak has the best dorm system out of all gachas so far it's still pretty basic (AS might have a better one but it is dead). It's weird how few gacha devs seem to want to implement a real dorm in their game.
>>1646651Maybe after the anime released, like everything can have in in fan creations, but in game you could just marry your favorite girl and just be happy about it. I sometimes just think that all is fair game if you don't get way off the attachment zone, can't say much on the JP side since I wasn't aware of it's dramas back in the day outside idol stuff, but I think is just way more mature regarding fan works and official works compared to CN for example.Bonus for Kongou: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ft-BPYbUNsU
>>1646660Because most gacha devs hate change or shaking things up. You see only after Genshin's release was when "open-world" styled gachas really started to spin up for development.
>>1646464Transbian men >>1646455 are still men. They're your kind.
>>1646660>then they still haven't added it even though Yz promised it months ago (what the fuck is Mica even doing?).in the new year interview YZ said that the dorm is finished and was planned to be released during the anniversarybut after finishing it, they thought: "wait... it's just a walking simulator, it's not interesting" and they decided to postpone the release to add some stuff to it
>>1646579If a design warrants CCP to censor them then that design wasn't gonna last long in the first place.
>>1646645thats not a gacha game you stupid fuck
>>1646673Read "waifu games" from the first reply bro, it was never specifying it was for gacha game only but generally waifu games.The only thing that could burst the bubble is the amount of live service games overall, not because it panders to waifu/husbando/omni.
>>1646574Right. They're trying to shift all the blame regarding cuckoldry panic (think of GFL2 Raymond drama) to feminism and women, but this shit frequently happens even without the presence of male characters and involvement of female devs.You all should just be honest and admit the schizophrenia among male gacha players have been worsening since 2020. I suspect this is strongly related to the male loneliness epidemic because they used to be isolated and contained in niche forums, but now there are enough of them to influence a small company.So nope, it's not just feminism. It's also the male players' mentality worsening over the years.When you get hysteric over Blue Archive having a collab with Mahjong Soul because "NTR" you know there's something wrong with your brain.
>>1646574Yes, it was the scaramouche and nahida shit that blew everything out of proportion.We can thank that faggot for turning every CN gacha release into a minefield.
>>1646671Every design that is marketed is already approved by the CCP, retard. The only reasons those designs, and ONLY those designs, were directly censored was because some unwashed dykes complained about them specifically. The CCP doesn't care about being consistent, they care about looking good and like they're doing something.
>>1646683They're just your typical government employees. They give out game licenses but not diligent enough to review every gacha design one by one. They only step in when a design goes out of line.
>>1646558I have more hours in TFT than all of my gachas combined so I'm glad it's outliving all of them.
>Random korean autobattler straight up copied the blue archive momotalk system complete with the UI and iconsHoly fuck this is so blatant and hilariousWhat fucking timeline are we in that China is at the forefront of gacha games while koreans are the ones making cheap knockoffs?
>>1646678>You all should just be honest and admit the schizophrenia among male gacha players have been worsening since 2020.GFL2s first event and X2 eclipse were actually written by guess what women. Your gaslit arguments don't hold up when the games were sabotaged by the female devs.The Sumeru drama was one of the last straws and MS collab drama is just a result of that.
>>1646690Koreans used to shamelessly copy each other during MMORPG boom from system to UI, it just wasn't publicized that much.
>>1646686>They only step in when a design goes out of lineNah, most of the time is when they get multiple reports, like every other agency.Just look right now at the Azur Lane's newest removal of skins, which some were released years ago (Atago summer march, released 2018). Mostly triggered after the new skins got some attention. >probably because of this one: https://twitter.com/AzurLane_EN/status/1870484370974212383
>>1646693While ignoring tons of other things unrelated to women that are still "NTR", like that innocent collab between Blue Archive and Mahjong Soul that was apparently "LITERALLY WHORING OUT MY WAIFU TO MAHJONG PLAYERS"
>>1646690>He doesn't know about BlaBla
>>1646697Games like Nikke, HSR or ZZZ have the messaging system but they changed the UI and shit so it doesn't look like a blatant clone. This game literally took the momotalk UI along with the icons, recolored it and called it a day.
>>1646678>When you get hysteric over Blue Archive having a collab with Mahjong Soul because "NTR" you know there's something wrong with your brain.I will agree and say this one was pure mental illness. The level of stupidity around it just makes me thing someone decided to shitpost to see if they could cause a riot and they struck gold.You seriously can't tell me with a straight face that (you) are cucking (you). The problem with that collab was the absolute raw end of the deal BA got out of it. MJS got four characters and BA got a 10x pull. That is a fucking joke.
>>1646695The Genshin ones were suspected to be censored because it was CNY and govt employees were looking for a big case to prove they've been working instead of lazing around. So Genshin being the no.1 game at that time was targeted. People also suspected business competitors (specifically Tencent) of having a hand.
>Brand new year>Same old schizophrenia
>>1646702Go away Elon
>>1646696And you're ignoring the fanbase that is the core audience of BA which, until the anime released, was pretty much anti yuri/NTR/Futa since the JP release. >But emuach Yuri art for BA was and in some way still is a lot less than the majority of vanilla sensei x student works.In the end regardless of gender the moment you get too attached to a character may create this anomaly but mostly I think the fact we have a lot more of information regarding these dramas and how they propagate faster is how you create these situations. And ofc "banter" to make your gacha enemy seethe because your favorite game.
wait is there actually a chink defending the entire "NOOO MY WAIFU IS KEKING ME WITH MYSELF" bullshit?
>>1646700>You seriously can't tell me with a straight face that (you) are cucking (you).The logic is there must be some overlap between people who play BA and MJS, but if someone only plays BA that means they're "transferring" their waifus to people who only play MJS. Hence literal NTR in real life.
>>1646708>they're "transferring" their waifus to people who only play MJS. Hence literal NTR in real life.Because MJS has an oath system and BA doesn't, so yeah. MS players trolled BA players because of that.
>>1646707There was like a daily general up on /v/ about that and it always reached bump limit. Must have been like 3000 posts about it a day because it was pretty much the biggest drama blue archive has had and of course it came from china since nobody else had a problem with it.CN server release was nexon's biggest mistake.
>>1646707Not defending, just saying how it is. Also people love to bring the BA x MJS collab drama but no one says why there's no oath for the collabs in Azur Lane, like how you couldn't oath with the Idolmaster units.At least they knew that trying to do something like that against idol fans would result 100% in drama.
>>1646690>copiedyou're not even real in brown dust. (You) don't exist, so i don't know who they're even talking to, maybe Gray. Eversoul has evertalk, i don't know if blue archive came first or eversoul, i just figured all KR games do it.
>>1646711>Not defending, just saying how it is.How was it then? A drama that only existed in China? A problem that only existed in China? A collab that was enjoyed worldwide except in China?China doesn't even like blue archive, they just used it as a convenient weapon against other games then got mad at the game because the MJS collab was used as a weapon against them and all the shit they flung came back at them.
>[CN NEWS]After CN revenue trackers were updated with Wuthering Waves newest version release, the current 2.0 banner couldn't surpass previous version's (1.4) revenue. Peaked at rank 16 chinese IOS app store, ranked 2nd in PlayStation store (Japan). Later today, an "internal Kuro leaker" posted a picture letter from Solon (CEO of Kuro Games) telling the dev team Wuthering Wave's revenue hit an all-time high, going beyond expectations.This "leaked" news was posted by a single website who has done previous article on Infinity Nikki also sending an "internal leaked message" to the dev team saying Nikki's first day revenue is now Paper Game's (Love and Deep Space) company record after chinese netizens noticed Infinity Nikki's revenue launch was performing below expectations. In the newest Wuthering Wave's article the publishing author also posted the exact screenshot from Paper Game's CEO, referencing to not worry.Current online discussions are split 50/50. Some netizens think this is PR control since 游戏葡萄君's articles in the past have been sponsored or paid. Others are praising Solon on their massive success and claiming 80% are PC players the rest 20% are split between mobile and PS5. This screenshot of said "leaked internal letter towards the development team" has made it's way into NA, KR and JP small media circles.Article source, Wuthering Waves: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/UCp9RZYBonLXqym4dlteGg?clickpos=299&clicktag=bar_share&scene=294&from_safari=1Article source, Infinity Nikki: https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/J-mungmpZVjMrPS2YQgVSA
>>1646709>Because MJS has an oath systemAs far as I am aware this isn't true. It has a "Bond" system, which in other words is just an affection system like you see in any other gacha game where you use a character, get points, and unlock shit. In MJS' case it is voice lines, and an outfit at max rank and emotes. >>1646711>why there's no oath for the collabs in Azur LaneThat isn't true, the only collab characters you cannot oath are the idolmaster ones, every other one is fair game.
>r/gachagaming - ESL central & made up revenue numbers
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>>1646714Blue Archive definitely came before Eversoul if you compare release dates but Eversoul's UI is different too. And I believe they made up some random self insert for the new mode thing, kinda like (I) in Epic7.
>>1646716>Others are praising Solon on their massive success and claiming 80% are PC players the rest 20% are split between mobile and PS5."My game is mostly played on PC" is such a convenient way to balloon up revenue. Just like "My game has 30 million preregistrations" totally not fake.
>>1646717>every other one is fair game.Yeah that's why I did mentioned Im@s as the one I remember, wasn't sure tho if you could oath the other ones like the senrans or the neps.>>1646715Fair, all my recollection of BA's community was around the JP release / 1st year of Global so I maybe misunderstood the drama around it, thought it was also affecting the KR side for MSJ.
>>1646723>wasn't sure tho if you could oath the other ones like the senrans or the nepsYou can, but more often than not the "oath" lines are pretty dry and more friendly than anything. I can only think of a few collab girls that actually come across as romantic.
>>1646722Why not? People shilling Infinity Nikki are doing the same thing kek
>>1646716>>1646719the discussion on NGA and Tieba is to just wait for Tencent/Kuro to publish their yearly revenue since it's a public company to see actual results
>>1646726Yeah let's face it Infinity Nikki is actually flopping hard. It has no core target audience. I predict soon they'll panic and introduce LADS-like husbandofagging.
>>1646722That's what everyone does>If your game tops the chartsHAHAHA MY GAME IS THE BEST WE WON YOU LOST>If your game does badlyUhm actually this chart doesn't include PC sales and nobody would ever play this on a phone so the chart is fake
>>1646729there's a special third one>Actually my game is so generous that you don't even need to spend so we're doing great! I can't believe we're doing so well!
>>1646729Because gacha revenue PvP is retarded but also fear of EoS.Meanwhile you see a bunch of slop with revenue bellow 1M surviving for years
>>1646722my phone has 64gb, my pc has probably over 10tb combined with all my drives. i can fit about 3 modern games on my phone, shit like azur lane is 20gb+. So whenever a game has a PC client, i always play on PC. It's not hard to believe a game like wuwa that requires a good pc would mostly have a pc audience.
>>1646709Mahjong Souls has a "contract" system. Basically what happened is that when the collab was announced MJS players started raiding BA communities by saying that they were now going to marry their students and cuck Sensei, and were using the contract and valentine voicelines as proof of that, since BA players didn't get anything out of the collab all they could say is that the contract wasn't a marriage which then the MJSfags would just call them coping cucks.JP server didn't have MJS players causing trouble so most people didn't care about it, they don't even know Mahjong Souls has a contract system. However there were still some players upset and even in /bag/ there were people unhappy with it, but they were a minority.
>>1646749If anything most of the NTR dramas can be summed up by that.
>>1646749not even defending their behaviour, it was retarded, but devs shouldn't have pushed the collab. Community clearly didn't want it, it wasn't very good, and it seems it was forced onto them. The same thing is happening in nikke, no one liked or cared for the evangelion collab, shiftup even admitted it was low revenue because no one liked it, and yet they're giving us another fucking evangelion collab. Developers just think they can run roughshod over players, they deserve to fail. You don't go to a restaurant and get forced to eat fish when you ask for a burger.
>>1646749>>1646756I find it funny that these two "NTR" dramas(GFL and BA) piggybacked off some other form of dissatisfaction to get picked up.
>>1646722>got a totally organic 30 million pre-regis in 3 weeks>lost to GF2 who botted their 5 million pre-regis in the span of 2 months
>>1646722>"My game is mostly played on PC" is such a convenient way to balloon up revenue.This might be true you know, PC games should be played on PC and mobile games should be played on mobile. Like PUBG mobile despite being one of the top 3 most successful mobile games but it still makes less money than the PC version.>>1646726>Infinity NikkiThis one is different ig, girls aren't the types to build build high end PCs but the game is made for PCs. Devs are retarded.
>>1646759Collabs usually happy through economic interests>both games are from the same company/publisher (BA and MS)>developers want to earn money through collab with famous IPs (SoC and Dungeon Meshi)>forced by third party for example Sony (Aloy in Genshin)or passion>devs are passionate about those IPs (HSR and Fate/Stay Night, ZZZ and Street Fighter 6)>devs have fond childhood memories of said IP (HI3 and Evangelion, E7 and Guilty Gear)Basically if your devs are part of the 2nd one you're screwed because there's really nothing you can do. They'll keep forcing that collab.
>>1646759>Community clearly didn't want it, it wasn't very good, and it seems it was forced onto themLiterally everyone liked it except China. Stop talking shit you don't know about.This shit is like getting bullied at school for being a chink then you go get mad at your parents for making you chinese instead of punching the bullies in the face. What the fuck is wrong with chinks?
>>1646768>everyone liked it yeah that's why it's dead in china, no one is talking about any other region, you brought up other regions, chinks were the only ones complaining, the thread is about them ESL. I play on global, don't care, and wouldn't even know it happened, if it wasn't for all the chink posts made here
>>1646645Now you remind me that to heart 3 will never came. I hate leaf/aquaplus so much for transitioning to all age company just like typemoon.
>>1646714you're outing yourself as a tourist
Kek
>>1646829b-ranking is irrelevant
>>1646771>yeah that's why it's dead in chinaThat's why I'm gonna say the BA devs are fucking dumb for not seeing the money making potential. Like based on Bili data, BA has more downloads than even Wuwa and that's a foreign game doing better than a AAA domestic game, in China. The CN version of BA could've been huge if they'd just listened to the players and not done that NS collab.They did the collab right when the CN version launched so there weren't many hardcore fans to defend them yet (I mean the newcomers, all the CN oldfags were already on other servers anyway).Now after all the drama the devs had to apologize like a beaten dog but its done. The CN players feel like the devs fucked them over so they wont ever come back.
Since this thread was new. I want to ask recommendation. Which best gachage for ml type player like (me).
>>1646690Bro, gooks also copy from every culture possible, they have no significant history of their own. People simply pay more attention to China because of their sheer number.
>>1646843bunny garden(it has gambling feature)
>>1646843Love and deepspace
>>1646840good? honestly if cn babies are going to act like that over a collab then they can fuck off for all I care
>>1646843I would had said azur lane last week, but it's going to start to get heavily censored on all regions (not only in china like before) due to google play policies (whatever that means).So I'm going to go with wuthering waves, even if it's mixed toilet. For ALL of pgr, and all of wuwa, every character that has released has been for (you), the girls are cute, and guys are cool and are bros (on this update the one new male of the region acts like and wingman and pushes for you to fuck the girls, same as aalto).
>>1646660they don't add a real dorm because no one gives a fuck about dorm.
>>1646847>bunny gardenI said gachage anon. Not normal game
>>1646855>they don't add a real dorm because no one gives a fuck about dorm.Huh?
>>1646857jokingly, you know, they are joking.
>>1646853hi shin
>>1646853>he clearly asks for ML games>recommends some dying lgbt mixed toilet
>>1646843Azur LaneSnowbreakEversoul
>>1646843fanza games because (You) actually get to fuck the girls. none of those other gook chink posers with all the fanservice they claim to have
>>1646843play zzz, it's coomer friendly, you can date all the girls now, and the handful of males are your wingmen
>>1646868>you can date all the girls nowThat's a blatant lie btw
>>1646864Maybe that guy doesnt want to play literal porn games?
>>1646871>literal porn gamethere's no difference between that and the average coomer gacha besides the porn they literally have an all ages version to have them be available on mobile
>>1646864Unfortunately most of these porn games suck, gameplay is garbage and they're very greedy. Newer porn games also all look the same because they use AI art. Best porn gacha I played was the Eiyuu Senki game but it died...
>>1646872Yeah but you literally said "actually get to fuck the girls" so you literally implied porn games. Sometimes less is more when it comes to sexual stuff.Nikke has girls the commander fucks and that is all ages too.Also those games you mention tend to be nip only. I doubt that guy can even read nipponese.
>>1646868>recommending hoyogameYou're playing with fire here anon.
>>1646840>The CN version of BA could've been huge if they'd just listened to the players and not done that NS collab.in the Q&A they did during the summer and where they apologized for the collab and saying there will never be a 2nd MS collab, they said that the MS collab was planned for a very very long time, but they were waiting for all the servers to be open to release the collabi wouldn't be surprised if it was planned to be a Year One collab but delayed because the CN version was delayed several times because of the licensing problem, in the end the collab came way too late (there would have been less drama I think if it had come out Year One)but what intrigues me the most is that Yostar CN also said they wanted to make a statement during the drama but for secret reasons they couldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if Yostar CN wanted to cancel the collab but Yostar JP prevented them from canceling the collab
People noticed problems with the new Wuwa skin, and Kuro has promised to change it in the next patch.
>>1646876It will be different this time
>>1646868>Can't see underwear >Coomer friendly
>>1646877>Yostar JP prevented them from canceling the collabPretty good, Yostar JP has been like the leash that stops nexon from being retarded.
Apparently Blue Archive is in troublehttps://m.businesspost.co.kr/BP?command=mobile_view&idxno=378919
>>1646917>TroubleGame has reached the "too big to fail" stage where all dramafags want it to fail for not appealing to them or want it to fail just to laugh at it but it keeps going.
>>1646917The secret to making money in TFD is to cut everything in half and even offer first time purchase bonuses. Nobody wants to pay for that overpriced shit.
>>1646917>4 year old game>like 20% decrease from the last yearSounds like a natural course of any gacha desuI was kinda happy at first Nexon eating shit is always a good thing but it's just a nothing of an articleThat fucking company is never gonna die because of DFO anyways
>>1646917When the game gets too old to sell they'll just recycle the same aesthetic and make bank again with BA2As much as I want Nexon to die, none of you chinky chinks can make anything that looks and feels like anime so they're 100% safe from any competition
>>1646931Do you think ARAD will be hugely successful? They're obviously targeting Genshin audience and they've got a huge loyal fanbase to boost.
>>1646940their DnF arad looks like shit tho
>>1646941Not really but DFO mobile will make sure Nexon lives for another Century. I think it makes more money in China than all Hoyo games combined.
>>1646942Oh yeah, that thingIt does look awful which is why I completely forgot about it. That's a much better doompost target than BA imo
>>1646941We don't even know ARAD gameplay yet, but considering it's a Genshin clone only releasing in 2026 I doubt it'll be successful.
>>1646941There are a couple open world Gachas coming out in 2025 so it will be difficult for it to break out.
>>1646446are they still butthurt genshin "sabotaged" their game or something? i heard about this on /v/pretty funny lol
>>1646464these drama threads are created purely for seething about this and hence invalidate your post
>>1646678this board and the losers that seethe in it arent ready for that conversationcuckshit can happen even if the game itself doesnt have any playable male charactersit literally is just the developers' decision to cuck the players and has nothing to do with the game having playable male charactersthey will just go for npc male characters if the chinks revolt and shout at the developers to remove playable males, i mean, they ARE listening to the players, just that there are other ways to screw over their players and they will do it because they want to do it
>>1646884I don't understand what the problem is.
>>1646963These things aren't mutually exclusive. Male characters attracts women, women like shipping (even if they don't a lot of them just want to ruin things for male players) and devs often fail the social media test and listen to the loud minority thinking it will make them more money. The chinks have learned a valuable lesson that it's important to be loud and gatekeep.
>>1646931>20% lmao
>>1646972>often fail the social media test and listen to the loud minoritylmaoing at ML fags not realizing they are the social media test tooenjoy being loud until nobody listens, retards
>>1646974>Blue Archive's sales ranking in Japan and China fell from 82nd in the game sector in 2023 to 103rd in 2024At least read the damned article.
>>1646957>are they still butthurt genshin "sabotaged" their game or something?But it did, though?
>>1646975Pot mets kettle fellow asylum inmate.
>>1646941>They're obviously targeting Genshin audience >they've got a huge loyal fanbase to boost.These things are mutually exclusive given that DnF mobile is making more than Genshin and the game doesn't even look like a DnF game.
Am I supposed to think 20% decrease is bad when the big players in the industry decreased something around 40-50%?
>>1646966Some parts of the back seem to be just a flat texture. Carlotta apparently has same problem.
>>1647037WuWa is like those fancy tourist towns they had in the USSRReal pretty from the outside, but when you take a closer look there's literary nothing thereGod, this game is such slop. China really fell off
>>1647039>*I have never played the game but I will still share my worthless opinion*
>>1647041Want me to post my ToA and holograms, faggot?You're a newfag pajeet that eats up a literal worse Genshin because you weren't around to play the real thing.That's really sad
> >no one cares about your useless opinion anyway
>>1647029It's not bad and very natural. In fact Mihoyo's revenue going down is also natural. We're reaching the saturation point with anime gacha.
>>1647072>We're reaching the saturation point with anime gacha*with non-anime gacha for asian normalfags, anime gacha is doing fine in comparisonStuff like nu-hoyoslop, wuwa or snowbreak aren't "anime" in the slightestBA is "anime". AL and AP are "anime". GFL2 is "anime" if you really wanna push itAll that normalfag shit sitting at -80% revenue compared to 2 years ago isn't "anime"
they legitimately use anime modeling regardless of your useless opinion that it isn't.that is because Japanese people consume these CN games in most cases, since their anime videogame development culture was left behind, and many companies began to promote DEI.
>>1647087Nobody is consuming semi-realistic slop like wuwa or snowbreak overseas, don't kid yourself
Your useless opinion does not matter, when the facts speak for themselves, the Japanese consume more this attempted imitation from CN because it is modeled after anime, legitimate and that's it.
>2d illustrated attractive females with big eyes and "anime" humorSounds pretty anime to me desu
>>1639741hey yuritranny i know youre in this thread toolook at what i stumbled upon today lolhttps://www.lgbtqnation.com/2025/01/10-arrested-for-writing-gay-erotica-in-china-as-part-of-nationwide-crackdown/
>>1647100>2d illustrated attractive females with big eyes and "anime" humorThat's exactly my point anon, their eyes are not big, heads are small, body proportions are realistic, and there's no cringe japanese humorWuwa and snowbreak are not anime, that's just how it is. Hoyoslop is debatable but those 2 most certainly aren't>>1647099You already made this post, chingchong man
>>1647109
>>1647109>“Disseminating obscene electronic messages” has long been illegal under the authoritarian Chinese regime.>A 1997 law defines obscene material as “publications, films, video and audio recordings, and images containing depictions of sexual acts.” The article says that you lied and all porn is illegal
>>1646843Horizon walker and it's not even close
[IMPORTANT NEWS]BA players were the ones that mass reported AL:https://x.com/CryingEmojiman/status/1875369799456313607
>>1647127>@crying emoji man>please think of the childrenThis is a shitpost
>>1646843Azur LaneEversoulSnowbreakHorizon WalkerHaze Reverband dont listen WuWajeets and Mihomo shills >>1646853 Wuwa WAS a for (you) game until the 2.0 dropped, Kurogames is now trying to attract shiptrannies and yuriniggers while trying to bait MLfags
>>1647127wtf
>>1646523Yep just look at fgo.
>>1647110>body proportions are realisticI dunno man, I'd say that's pretty easy to find in Japanese anime.
>>1647139All cartoons are anime when they're made in Japan because Japanese language sucks cocks. Chinese cartoons need to be like stereotypical anime if they want to be called "anime". When "child" characters have a smaller head than Genshin adults, that shit is not animeWhat's next, are we gonna call the LoL cartoon "anime" too?
>>1647133looks like shit
>>1647043>*I hate the game but I still play it and even do endgame content*Genshincrab behaviour, lmao
I don't know but you put the CBT1 model of Wuthering Waves which is totally different from the one released.Regardless of whether you like it or not, it is anime and as soon as you mention LOL you can see the differences in the modeling, very rough "American" so to speak, the women have squared features almost as if they were troons, the reason because wuthering waves change the modeling was precisely because it didn't look like "anime" even Danjin CBT1 looked like a fucking troon or a totally different species than where the genre could not be identified.
>>1647153They didn't change a damn thing, why are you such a schizo?
>>1647151>still play itI reinstalled to give 2.0 a chance.The fact this didn't occur to you tells me you don't play games at all. Nogames faggots should stay quiet
In fact they made a lot of changes because all the characters had the same face, just say you don't know shit
>>16471673 > 1 > 2
>>1647099>people in this thread have become so deluded that they even start writing like they're chinese
>>1647145arr rook samuliterally interchangeable, zero style or personality
According to the failed trash in this thread who doesn't know shit because they are a bunch of unemployed losers, this isn't anime either.
>>1647127if AL gets forced to raise their rating, not such a bad thing. that +12 always annoyed me, because AL arbitrarily self-censors. So many skins are ruined by random things blocking their pantsu, or the stupid double leg thing, that doesn't let you see pantsu, you have to use your imagination that they are no-pan. Same goes for nikke, although, the game is way lewder than AL at this point, they don't hide panties, or asses, or cleavage most of the time. They stopped the long hair blocking their ass bullshit, when enough players complained.also >think of the childrenthat tranny has never been around real children, they are busy playing roblox, they don't play gachashit, especially azur lane
>>1647178it's not, wtf are you smoking
>>1647167The original image had Encore, Yangyang, Rover and Jiyan, post those or fuck off
>>1647180the no reply schizo is just a chink larper, just ignore xim.
>>1647179>doesn't let you see pantsuliterally one of the skins released in the current event
>>1647184>Diseño sin títuloBut why is he from Brazil lmao, I thought I'm talking to an actual chink wtf I got scammed
>>1647179Yeah i get you, the game doesn't offer much when it comes to casual pantyshots.>you have to use your imagination that they are no-panthey call it tease lane for a reason
>>1647185i said arbitrarily censor, i know they have some lewd ones, but you know they unnecessarily self-censor a bunch of them too. At this point, there is no reason to censor anymore, it's not 2016. you can't see her pantsu in this one, again arbitrary, no reason to censor it
>>1647190That one doesn't show pantsu because she isn't wearing any...AL has always been a pantsuge, it has shown characters from all body types showing their pantsu (like shimakaze or vampire)
>>1647127The AL censorship pisses me off. A lot. Especially when some of the randomly targeted outfits like Atago's swimsuit weren't even very risque. Makes the whole thing seem random.However, we all need to be real here. The game really shouldn't be rated 12+. Maybe when it first came out, but not anymore. So many of the newest Live2D are so heavily focused on the tits and ass bouncing right in your face.Snowbreak upped their rating to get away with more stuff. I believe Brown Dust 2 did also. It's only reasonable to expect AL to do the same.Nikke probably should too. But it isn't as in-your-face lewd and I don't care about that game anyway.
>>1646815>99.9% of the content is you floating as a cuck ghost watching everyone from the skies have their own relationships>glupy diner releases>i am now le heckin chef, we're so ML nao guise
>>1647029you're supposed to realize you're retarded for thinking it's only -20%
>>1647266Doesn't this shit change how the JP side is calculated like every few months? I remember Uma ranking higher but having lower revenue when it came to this chart.
>>1647271no? everything is taken from sensortower. you're thinking of that japanese site that inflates numbers whenever they want. according to that site, BA made more money in 2024 jan/feb than 2023 but nah. also why mavuika's jp numbers are bigger than they seem
>>1647275Can you explain why Sensortower is more credible then? Because July 2024 is the month where Blue Archive stayed in number 1 for more than a day meanwhile July 2023 couldn't even hit number one and it somehow July 2024 made less money than July 2023 which makes zero sense.
>>1647277>Can you explain why Sensortower is more credible then?None of these sites are credible, stop being retarded.
>>1647180They are Japanese anime style in layman term. That person is right. The precise term professional artists use is "deformé" (as in SD super deformé, デフォルメ, meaning stylistic distortion), which involves reduction/simplification of anatomy features that has over time become the signature style of Japanese artists.>But American but ArcaneThe degree of distortion signifies the difference between Japanese media and the rest of the world. Japanese deformé involves the simplification of nose (because the nose doesn't express any emotion), lips (because only the shape of the mouth conveys emotion), with mega-emphasis on eyes (because eyes convey emotion the most). I heard this style was developed because they had to draw for newspapers (which means they were forced to go as simple as possible), but over time this style has become an acquired taste.So while Genshin/Wuwa aren't Japanese, they do use Japanese stylistic distortion. Hence people use the layman term "anime style" (the correct term is actually Japanese deformé) to describe them.
>>1647277people pay sensortower. that japanese site is run by one retard as a hobby
>>1647275>inflates numbers whenever they wantThat's the entire chart
>>1647292Haha 5x chink multiplier go brrrr
>>1647291scammer also getting money from people too
>>1647294People paying money for gachafag tears sounds like a nice gig though.
Seems more like it deflates numbers since it listed Pokemon at 80 million or so when it was reported as 200 million officially.
>>1647277because monthly sales are the sum of every day's sales, not just peak daysBA charted worse on average in july 2024,
>>1647296those aren't lifetime sales retardit made 81m on ios and 37m on android LAST MONTH
>>1647231>Snowbreak upped their rating to get away with more stuffThey still got slapped with censorship even after the age rating increase, and I'm not talking about the first instance that was because of a technicality. It's seemingly arbitrary and random when any gacha gets hit with that bullshit.
Ananta will save gacha
Yesterday, 太有看头了@ Tieba, has made a summary of other things rhetorical were mentioned earlier but are revised to add new things into the thread.This is a recap of yesterday and two days ago test:This is the refined and final version of the summary content released yesterday, with some new additions, such as the dating system. The layout has been optimized, and different pieces of information have been categorized. All the content in this post comes from test players in QQ groups and on Bilibili, with some content already deleted on Bilibili. To summarize the content revealed in this test: The game has essentially fully delivered on what was shown in the latest PV, including the map and gameplay. Test players have generally given positive feedback.Game Genre: The game's start screen allows you to choose between single-player or multiplayer modes, similar to GTA 5's online and offline modes. Additionally, statements from the producer leaked on Bilibili after the test explicitly mentioned, "We want to show the market that NetEase isn't just about martial arts and MMOs; we're also introducing new, youthful genres." This suggests that Infinity won't be a traditional MMO like Justice Online, though it may include MMO elements. Instead, it leans more toward a content-driven game like GTA. Movement and Transportation System: The basic 3C system for character movement is decent, with a fast-paced movement system that allows for quick flying. The Spider-Man-style swinging mechanics might need some optimization, but swinging feels satisfying, and the grappling hook physically attaches to buildings rather than using a virtual line. There's no stamina bar for running or swinging. For vehicles, players can drive cars, but there are no water or air vehicles yet. Swimming is possible, but the system needs refinement. Players can also use the rail transit system (based on leaked rail maps, which include both above-ground and underground sections).
>>1647328Urban Daily Life and Management: Currently, players cannot buy houses or cars, but there are plenty of urban daily activities, such as playing mahjong, working out, or racing against NPCs as shown in the PV. Interactivity: The game has high interactivity. Players can pet cats (developers hinted that players might later have their own customizable cats, complete with naming options). You can pull chairs out from under sitting NPCs, steal phones from passersby, and even read the chat history on the stolen phones. The chat logs are diverse, with no duplicates observed after stealing multiple phones, suggesting the possible use of AI technology. Characters also have telekinetic abilities, as shown in earlier PVs, allowing them to levitate objects and throw them at NPCs.While exploring the city, players can trigger random events, such as car chases where they must defeat enemies within a time limit to prevent them from escaping (similar to random events in Marvel's Spider-Man). Gender Ratio: The test version included 9-11 playable female characters and 2-3 male characters (excluding the protagonist). Players can choose their protagonist's gender at the start. Dating System: Players can engage in first-person dating with characters, including activities like riding a Ferris wheel, playing arcade games, dining together, watching movies, or playing darts.
>>1647329The system uses a "reach the location first, then invite" model. For example, after arriving at a location like an arcade or gym, players can choose between single-player or multiplayer modes and then invite a character to join them. These interactions can improve six-dimensional attributes related to world exploration. During dates, dialogue options appear, and choosing the correct ones can increase the character's affection. Players who experienced the system praised NetEase for understanding how to deliver emotional value, calling it very well done. There are also hints that players might be able to make video calls to characters.Map and Graphics: The game's initial map is confirmed to be an island similar to Manhattan in Spider-Man, connected to the outside world by bridges. The entire island was accessible during the technical test, allowing players to swing freely. Some areas feel sparse, while others, like the downtown area shown in the PV, are densely populated with NPCs. Seamless loading works in some areas but requires loading screens in others, indicating room for refinement. Graphically, the game looks impressive. The producer demonstrated mobile gameplay (possibly on an iQOO 13), claiming that the game can now run on high-end phones with visuals close to the PC version. However, some testers felt that character models could use further polishing. Character Progression and Customization: The character progression system remains unclear, and there's no sign of the "miHoYo trio" (likely referring to gacha, artifacts, and stamina systems). Characters are divided into gold and purple tiers.
>>1647330The game features a clothing system, allowing players to freely customize outfits like in Infinity Nikki. Clothing is shared among characters of the same gender and automatically adjusts to fit different body types. For example, the same swimsuit can be worn by all characters of the same gender. Testers had access to outfits like basketball jerseys, swimsuits, gym wear, and uniforms. The dressing system is also unique: players can call a special "clothing van" to change outfits on the go.Crime System: Players can shoot at NPCs, but it doesn't cause actual harm. There's a crime level system, and if it exceeds a certain threshold, players will be arrested and sent to jail. Story: The main storyline is relatively short, lasting about 30 minutes at the start before branching off. Testers described it as decent, with the protagonist being quite engaging. After the main story, players can choose from various side quests, some of which feature lighthearted and humorous plots with plenty of character interactions. The attached images include a photo of the New Qi Rail Transit map taken by a group member and some in-game advertisements.
>Dating System: Players can engage in first-person dating with characters, including activities like riding a Ferris wheel, playing arcade games, dining together, watching movies, or playing darts.>The system uses a "reach the location first, then invite" model. For example, after arriving at a location like an arcade or gym, players can choose between single-player or multiplayer modes and then invite a character to join them. These interactions can improve six-dimensional attributes related to world exploration. During dates, dialogue options appear, and choosing the correct ones can increase the character's affection. Players who experienced the system praised NetEase for understanding how to deliver emotional value, calling it very well done. There are also hints that players might be able to make video calls to characters.Ananta is the only upcoming gacha with a confirmed dating system right? Or does AP also have it?Overall it looks too good to be true.
>>1647331So far CN community has 2 big concern about the game>Monetization systemTheir recent released "where wind meets" was positively received but the lack of good monetization system led them to bring in bounty mode which angered lots of people.And according to some rumor Naked Rain might not introduce gacha for Chara/Weapon, but sell skin/car/etc instead which might not be able to sustain the game in long term.>CombatMany complained that the combat was not engaging enough but from the leak I saw one year ago, it's the standard genshin combat with 4-people-party using NA/E/Q, which I think is enough to satisfy the average players.>>1647334>does AP also have it?no one knows since that game is in constant state of chaos>Overall it looks too good to be true.Technical issue shouldnt be a problem for NetEase. It's always operating/management issues that kill their game
>>1647335>no one knows since that game is in constant state of chaosSo what's the deal with the game right now what problems are the devs facing? I haven't heard anything about AP in like... a year.
>>1647335If they want skins to sustain the game then they should have went with a custom player character.
>dating system>similar to GTA 5 but more limited>You cant kill npc´s>Gender Ratio: 11F:3M at best>FEMC>Dating System: Players can engage in first-person dating with charactersbut>plots with plenty of character interactions>plenty of character interactions>with dating systemthis shit is gonna be the most funny disaster I ever see in years because normalfags are not gonna play some "cringe" anime dating simulator they are gonna be playing GTA 6 or NTE, husbandofags are not gonna play because there are not enough male characters, waifufags are not gonna play because there is a FEMC and male characters and yurifags are not gonna stay because there are male characters and the male protagonist."If you try to appeal to everyone, you'll appeal to no one"
>>1647339>husbandofags are not gonna play because there are not enough male charactersYou say that but doesn't Endfield basically have the same male to female ratio as Ananta? Like there are only 2 human male characters in Endfield even worse than Ananta, and that game is marketed to be appealing to everyone.
>>1647337Like I said no one really knows what happened inside their office. People just speculate that their game changed direction midway (playable males were leaked but manjuu confirmed there wont be any playable male after the PV), employees left due to difference in vision, not enough technical key members, etc.Even if the game managed to get released now, they wont be able to keep up with standard 6 weeks patch cycle like mihoyo and die slowly.>>1647338The skins in other NetEase game are relative cheap, only 6 yuan so I hope they could just combine both gacha (for chara) and skin (for weapon/car/housing).Or they could even take AL approach where the game sells special gifts that can unlock special scene with your waifu.
>>1647341>they could even take AL approach where the game sells special gifts that can unlock special scene with your waifu.You really are comparing a mixed toilet with Azur Lane? Do you really believe Azur lane players or any ML game are gonna leave their waifu game for some shitty GTA copy with town bicycle characters? KEK I really hope the devs are not that retarded have the last (you) of the night shill bro
>>1647343>ML gamewhat game?
>>1647339dating system and character interactions are perfect recipe for disaster, well at least CN schizos are gonna have a new target
>>1647339>they are gonna be playing NTE>NTEWhy would people be playing an even inferior version of Ananta? That thing looks even way more limited than Ananta, come on.
>>1647339make the dating system like persona and it could work
>>1647347they will play it for the furry and UE5
>>1647345shut up
>>1647347>Why would people be playing an even inferior version of Ananta?More ads, no "icky incel pandering", more e-celebs playing it and more male characters>>1647348If they lock the romance to character gender, for example the FEMC can only date male characters the Male can only date female characters, but I really doubt they are gonna do that also Futaba best girl>>1647345Love and Deepspace
>>1647343Well no, AL players probably don't have a PC that can play it to begin with.
>>1647353it's funny how LAD femcels never care about ML movement yet ML fags keep taking their achievement as their own
Anyone can tell me what is happening here? the writer of WuWa 2.0 is a feminist? shipper? Pro-ML? https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9389487731
>>1647335So>Monetization is a clue>Combat isn't a mega improvementEverything else I can believe it to be fine, but these two are VERY important questions I need answered.
>>1647326>>1647328>>1647329>>1647330>>1647331Curious about how the optimization goes because these look very demanding.
>>1647361
>>1647361Sure! Here's a detailed summary of the original post (OP) in the thread:Critique of Female Character Writing: The OP criticizes the portrayal of female characters in the game, mentioning that each character's story includes personal biases and trivial collaborations.Auction Price Manipulation: The OP discusses how the game's narrative involves raising the price of paintings at auctions by building momentum through trivial collaborations.Mystery Complex: The OP expresses frustration with the game's writers for having a mystery complex for young boys, which they find inappropriate.Enemy Description: The OP criticizes the description of enemies in the game, using uncommon metaphors that they find unconvincing.Dance with Enemy Female Representative: The OP is disgusted by the detailed description of a dance between a noble lady and a young girl, which they find overly romanticized and inappropriate.
>>1647355Because femcels never get their safe space invaded because no one cares about them. While ML elements in former mixed toilet trash get theirs stolen due to shipping faggotry
>>1647365Just schizobabbling, kek
>>1647365>Dance with Enemy Female Representative: The OP is disgusted by the detailed description of a dance between a noble lady and a young girl, which they find overly romanticized and inappropriate.I know I wasn't crazy, Kuro is changing their demographic target and WuWa trannies are gonna be for a rude awakening with Zani and Phoebe
>>1647365Thanks gpt
>>1647353>If they lock the romance to character gender but I really doubt they are gonna do that also Futaba best girlWhy not? Hoyo already did that in recent ZZZ and Genshin patches.
>>1647367>Because femcels never get their safe space invadedNikki? Even on 4chan you can see the bitter fighting (albeit rare) between both groups.
>>1647384Those games don't have romance
>>1647370Man these Chinks are a riot. Like soccer moms right out of the 90s.
>>1647385>literal flop of a game that failed to reach its intended audienceyeah no, itll be forgotten as soon as the new big releases hit this year if its even lucky to stay relevant for that long at least.my points stands, no one gives a shit about femcels
man wishes they could do this to their waifus
The furfag in Wuwa might play a big key in driving potential players away.
>>1647397Do you intentionally make these as incomprehensible as possible?
>>1647339People are completely tired of mixed toilets now so omnipandering doesn't work anymore. I'll at least give Ananta a try but I'm not gonna spend any money, women can pay for me.
>>1647398I think it's talking about Lingyang. The standard pool spook actually biased toward him, and the players who got spooked by him especially in their beginner banner just immediately drop the game and never look back. He suggested a Kuro insider is a furfag who want to push him to be liked by the players.
Do women really quit games just because there's kissing in it?
>>1647412It's creepy
>>1647412Anon... Just swap the gender. Will you still play the game if there's a scene of man kissing (you)?
That's not how it works, for example if Genshin puts faggot in Sumeru to attract women players, for NIKKI it would be the same if devps included lewd or sexy dresses to attract men players, that's how it works.Logically, this pattern is seen much more in recent mixed bathrooms because of mihomo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndG1vz037lALOL
Another ananta review by a jap beta tester, apparently he's the only foreigner playtesting it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0tXLrkSOZQ, the video has English sub and other languages too.He gave a bunch of new info like the devs told him afterwards that it was a super early build, he was surprised since a lot of it felt finished already.He pretty much loved it, just said the combat isn't great.
>>1647442>just said the combat isn't great.kinda important for a rpg, is it just standard hoyoshit combat or are there deeper problems?
>>1647442>the combat isn't greatGTA is always about immersion anyway. If they can attract gta rp players then it's a win for them, otherwise it's a flop.
>>1647334>Overall it looks too good to be true.Nah it's mixed toilet
>>1647448it's gonna flop because most of the characters are femorrhoids even in the marketing. that's a massive red flag to everyone besides waifutrannies including the normies (the GTA audience)
>>1647442I dont know why he set his video to private but someone re uploaded it to bilibili with CN sub afterhttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV12RrTYCE2y
>>1647460kek he even said how he hates 50/50, C2, weapon gacha are a thing in other game
>>1647445>kinda important for a rpgIt isn't a RPG
>>1647460ok he said there are 7 elements in the gamehowever implementation of elemental reaction is still in considerationhe also said each chara doesnt have unique feeling in their combat ability
>>1647460>I dont know why he set his video to privateIt's back on youtube. And here's the EN transcript in case he sets the video to private again. https://pastebin.com/T79qvrNN
>>1647474>however implementation of elemental reaction is still in considerationplease god no>he also said each chara doesnt have unique feeling in their combat abilityrip
>>1647474>7 elements>elemental reactionsgenshin ruined the industry
>>1647475Thanks. I just took a look at JP discord and he's there lol.He's probably will become main JP CC for Ananta considering how NetEase treated him.>>1647476Keep in mind that the build they used for this offline test is super early.
>watch new gacha trailer>see men>close the videoNot wasting my time
>>1647397its true. kuro literally had to give a free standard 5* selector to try and keep people from quitting when they got the lionfag from the guaranteed standard banner.personally I'd change him to a limited banner so furfags get one last chance to pull him before he never gets a rerun again.
>>1647486based
>>1647477Meanwhile nobody even copied the reaction system and just did half assed "elements" that serve as a glorified damage resist.Genshin was the only one that actually tried, this industry is just fucking shit.
>>1647495Did you know that the free standard selector was given because at the beginning Lingyang had a higher % chance of appearing in the beginner banner?That's why Kuro gave the selector, kek. I actually got him from that banner.
>>1647522The reaction system in Genshit isn't even good. I've seen immersive sims from 30 years ago with better interactivity.
>>1647552>I've seen immersive sims from 30 years ago with better interactivityNigger, are you for real? It's an action RPG, and a damn good one at that even compared to "real" JP games made today, no way your Arx Fatalis, or whatever other stale cumrag you're gonna pull out your ass, has better combat mechanics than Genshin's elemental systemGenshin isn't BotW, okay? Genshin's elemental system isn't meant for gimmicky shit like setting grass on fire to glide upwards, it's there to make this stupid stat-check RPG combat every gacha has not completely braindead.Elemental system isn't there to add "interactivity" to exploration, it's there because without it gachas with typing systems devolve into literal "match the colors"Like when you're building a team in WuWa all you do is match your dps's damage type and element type to your support's, that's it. In that game people are literary playing preset teams enforced top-down by the developerIn terms of interactivity yeah it sucks and could be better, but it's Mihoyo we're talking about, everything about their shit "could be better". In terms of combat only, this is the best system any recent gacha had and I wish these stupid nigger devs actually copied it instead of pretending they do then shitting out something else
>>1647556Oh you're an actual Hoyokek. Nevermind.
>>1647589Better a hoyokek than a newfagWhat's your excuse for not playing Genshin back when it was good? I'd really like to hear itNote: I haven't touched a Mihoyo game in 2 years
>>1647594?I did play it, that's why I know you're full of shit.
>>1647601>you're full of shitSays the guy who made an insane claim then tried to derail with an adhom for 12 year olds to avoid actually having to back it up
>>1647556I think you are very confused about how action games work. Genshin entirely railroads your team combinations, if you want to say, use ganyu as your main damage dealer, you are pigeon holed into using a hydro and pyro for freeze/melt. You aren't going to be using a psychical, electro or geo character since their reactions do nothing for cryo (I dropped the game before dendro so I have no idea what it does). So team building is very, very limiting. Not only that, the game is incredibly simple if we go by action rpgs standards, compare it to the golden standard, kingdom heart 2 (an almost 20 year old game). You never interact with enemies, you vomit your whole rotation and that's it. You don't care what the enemy moveset is, all you do is check if they are immune to the element you are using and that's it. Not even going to get into enemy design like hitboxes, teleporting to the other side of the arena with no startup animations, invincibility phases out the ass, etc.
are you referring to the color combination system for 12 and 13 year old children?although it is easy to understand, it becomes repetitive and reaches its limit too quickly, i can understand the reason because dendro was delayed until 3.X,if it was there since 1.0 otherwise they would have offered nothing new in 3.X with wormslop sumeru would have been worse than it was.
>>1647594NTA but none of the early characters really appealed to me except Mona and Rosaria. Rosaria might have been the one to sell me on the game, since Mona was clearly never gonna get a rateup and Rosaria would've been relatively easy to get as a 4star, but the moment they nerfed her tits I realized exactly what their priorities were and decided they weren't worth my time or money. Didn't help that I'd witnessed Hoyo's faggot phase back in HI3.
>>1647556>Like when you're building a team in WuWa all you do is match your dps's damage type and element type to your support's, that's it. In that game people are literary playing preset teams enforced top-down by the developerThis is the bane of action gacha. The endgame always devolves into beating a boss that arbitrarly takes more frost damage this week within a strict time limit. It you've seen one, you've seen them all..
>>1647460Feels good being the target audience of these modern games.
>>1647619>being the target audienceFor now...
>>1647556>it's there to make this stupid stat-check RPG combat every gacha has not completely braindead.funny that dendro reaction makes the combat pretty much braindead now and also killed cryo even further
>>1647626>For now...bro thinks he cooked with this one
>>1647607>you don't interact with enemiesYes, it's a game about maximizing your damage against target dummies, IT'S NOT A HACK-AND-SLASH ACTION GAMEAll gachas are non-interactive stat-check pinatas, I repeat, ALL OF THEM. Enemy actions are meaningless, your victory or loss depends only on how much DPS you output Interactable enemy in gacha means"boss is spazzing out to waste time and fail your dps check", players bitch about it and it gets nerfed every timeMaking the player dodge more or parry does nothing, the core gameplay is still finding that highest dps rotation and repeating it no matter what, all "interactivity" does is introduce RNG interruptionsWuWa and ZZZ are both still Genshin gameplay but with boring strategies and a layer of Punch-Out! added on top so you don't fall asleep.They have more action mechanics, but still fall way short of DMC or Nioh because it's a gacha with phone controls.The element system is NOT responsible for these games falling short of DMC, it's an attempt to acknowledge the inevitability of the issue and add layers of metagame on top of just mechanics.>ganyu as your main damage dealer, you are pigeon holed into using a hydro and pyro for freeze/meltSee that's already 2 archetypes with different character options for each.Having limitations is better than "anything goes" imo, but that's not my pointMy point is: in WuWa your dps literary only does "skill damage" and you're only allowed to bring a single support that has to buff "skill damage"Every character has a pre-planned teammate, rotation, and even a meter that tells you how long you should mash with this char before swapping out. If you pick a suboptimal team, you literary do the same gameplay but output less damageGenshin's system you can just b urself, use crazy off-meta shit like non-bloom Nilou, self-exploding Razor or glitch-jumping Diluc, and get different gameplayThat's the point of a reaction systemThis nigga gets it >>1647613This too >>1647628
>>1647633>t. hoyokek
>>1647638cry about it
>>1647638Not him but I tried Aether Gazer for a while and it was exactly that except the team comps were even more forced with how they handle chain ults.
>>1647633All those words for just a bit of trolling. You claim that you can "only" bring characters that enhance the main dps type of damage in wuwa, but every single fastest clear has always been quickswap, when you use two main dps that don't interact with each other at all, skillfully animation cancelling and buffering to combo offset out of each other.Then you claim that you can do some "crazy" off meta stuff in genshin, but apparently this isn't allowed in wuwa? Like the game doesn't let you enter tower if you aren't using a meta team? What are you even writing?
>>1647674>Like the game doesn't let you enter tower if you aren't using a meta team?Yes that's exactly what happens now go and be a wuwajeet somewhere else
>>1647680Nah you go be a hoyokek somewhere. You're the laughing stock of every community.
>>1647681Jesus, just how many times do you plan on replying lol
>>1647594>I haven't touched a Mihoyo game in 2 yearsYeah. I can see that, RETARD.
>ctrl+f h*y*>24 resultsholy mindbroken
>>1647688Nothing wrong on making fun of hoyokeks.
>>1647633>They have more action mechanics, but still fall way short of DMC or Nioh because it's a gacha with phone controls.>The element system is NOT responsible for these games falling short of DMC, it's an attempt to acknowledge the inevitability of the issue and add layers of metagame on top of just mechanics.Who says DMC or Nioh combat can't work on phones? Like there's already an anime phone game out there with way more complicated button mashing and it's making more than Genshin right now, mobile gamers are more capable than you think you don't have to baby them.Saying devs needing to dumb down combat for phones like Hoyo does is just silly, there's no "inevitable" issue here and Genshin has become a plague infecting the entire gacha industry.
Question: Yuri and Fujoshi (male/husbando wanted) who is better? I know this thread hates both. Afaik Yuri likes female characters so it's the only point ML player agree with them right?
>>1647826lol no yuriniggers and fujoshits are literally our number 1 enemy
>>1647826Who is "this thread"? The ESL that roleplays as chinese?
>>1647826yuritroons ruined path to nowhere. They don't like male gaze, they like dyke designs, they got coquelic censored, and only like trousers/ pants suit characters. Anyone who pushes for males other than protag, homos, dykes, troon designs and censorship is not an ally, period.
>>1647826Nope. Especially yuritroon, they're usually anti self-insert, because they can only self-insert as a woman. Of course most of them are still in the closet, that's why they will say that they don't self-insert and self-inserting isn't normal.
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>>1647801>Who says DMC or Nioh combat can't work on phones?Me, but phone controls are not even the main issue, the GACHA part is.Action games are fun because you're not just mashing the same buttons all day, you're interacting with the enemies and doing different stuff depending on the situationThat won't happen in a gacha, all gacha games are stat-check RPGs, and that means repeating the same optimal rotation over and over. Even when chinks made a DMC gacha it still ended up a dps race with stats and skill cooldowns that made you repeat the same sequence all day.If it's not a stat-check, there's no reason to engage with the daily stamina grind or pay for weapons/dupes so you end up with a flop like Infiniti NikkiAnd speaking of controls, Genshin isn't even the most "dumbed down" game among its competitors. I can literary do Jinhsi rotations in WuWa blindfolded, and clear all ToA stages like that except for the hardest one.I'm sure ZZZ players can do the same with their game cause it looks even more stupidI really need to see that non-dumbed down phone game to believe they're real, but even if they are, the need to force whalebait and FOMO with RPG mechanics means the endgame will always end up like >>1647613even if the dev manages to make the early-game onboarding part feel like a good well-balanced game.Genshin isn't even the plague infecting the gacha industry btw, HI3 is. That game didn't have timers in endgame content originally, then they added timers but you could timestop them for a long time with the dodge mechanic, then it went full "Genshin" with the timer bullshit, AND started rotating different elemental weaknesses each weekAll the competitors that copied it did so after the timer change, this idea that Genshin is the reason for dumbed down action gachas is laughable, they've been this bad (almost) from the start
[Happy News] Aether Gazer has announced they'll implement a male mc to the game. No female mc!
>>1647943>faggotwink mc #288339838
>>1647943can't wait to sex gengchen with my kpop twink dick, should have made him a gigachad like marduk
>>1647943While I agree with the anon above. The Chinese are too pussy for this but he should've at least has some of the gruff look.
>>1647943wut? what a weird change, I'm sure what people have been requesting are the removal of the playable male characters. The Administrator-san was already a thing.
>>1647943>cheap homo game with males in gacha and off-screen MC>MC-kun gets a twink model>uhh guize, this slop might BASED and REDPILLED??!This goes beyond brainrot, ML chinks act like a pile of barely sentient bricks.
>>1647964This game has been in course correct mode ever since those three homos almost killed it. It's nothing on the level of Snowbreak but they are learning.
>>1647966I'm sure faggots that play gender war sportsball on social media are really enjoying the changes, but you should actually play this to know what kind of trash you're praising because it "course corrected" lolYou're supposed to play games, not post their promotional materials on the Internet and scream you're winning
>>1647969>troon reveals ximselfyou forgot to say femorrhoids are flopping, literally no one plays or is praising this game, you're just assmad that every company is removing homos, they are a plague, like you tranny
>>1647975Delicious seethe, did that hit too close to home mr. social media warrior?You literary won't play this game and you know it.
>>1647977>literarySAAAR
>>1647978shut up bloody basterd bitchVishnu curse your entire village
Is there a single game worth playing
>>1647988Genshin Impact!
>>1647988Girls Frontline 2: Exilium
>>1647988zzz
I know you fags are memeing, but all of these games are in fact worth playing over fotm "redeemed" mixed toilets running on chink ml necromancy that you like to discuss so much>let's talk about Guilongchao some more, maybe the dev course corrects and we can finally play this high quality 2D sidescroller free of evil feminists
>>1647988Tower of Fantasy
>>1647969>that play gender war sportsball on social media are really enjoying the changesOut of all the gacha games you picked AG to trash talk lmao.Just so you know this game used to be in a weird spot in CN IIRC, before it came out all the ads and stuff only showed female characters so everyone thought it was going to be a waifu-only game. Then when it released and people saw male characters they were shocked and felt ripped off, it was literally false advertising.
>>1648006>it was literally false advertisingSounds like a good reason to trash talk, no?I'm mad that faggot picked this of all things to >[Happy News] about
>>1647988wuwa. i think its fun and it doesn't ask a lot out of the player in terms of menus or equipment autism, it's mostly about the gameplay. apparently most people disagree reading this thread though.https://youtu.be/csvDZ0y2tbk?si=4zwHe3oCGi3TuyNZ
[Sad News] Guilongchao doesn't have much long left to live. They even violated their promise of a 1:1 male to female ratio and have betrayed their female players. This company does not treat women as human beings!
>>1648023How's the artifact autism equivalent of that game?
>>1648023Sometimes I just want to turn my brain off and be lazy with auto. Wuwas gameplay is one of the more fun out of the gachas I've tried though.
>>1647988Of the ones talked here? No
>>1648023It's far from the worst thing ever, but>doesn't ask a lot out of the playeris definitely not trueDoing yet another IR reset feels like beating up children in a daycare and the game wanted you to do this for 5 hours straight to close out the associated event last patch. You could finish a CoD campaign in the amount of time it takes just to maintain this game>>1648032Much cheaper in terms of stamina gating but having to manually grind that shit in the open world is hell. It was fine during honeymoon period but they powercrept all the sets in 2.0 and you have to do it again, but this time without the 50 account levels worth of permanent content to go throughAnd it requires constant attention because backpack fills on its own in a monthFeel free to try it but I wouldn't recommend staying long-termSubstats are biased towards rolling low btw
>>1648032Trivial. You spend stamina in the artifact mine for some 5 days and that's it, you have your character built. The game also showers you with boxes that allow you to pick a set and main stat, so technically you don't even need to go to the mines unless you care about having perfect c.rate to c.damage spread. The game ALSO showers you with upgrade material select boxes, so you can spend all your stamina in the mines instead of getting upgrade materials. I have some 90 boxes of each rarity for materials, and some 40 for the artifact ones, which I'm probably never going to use because raising characters is so easy.Then there's this retard >>1648040 who thinks that you need to farm in the overworld. Remember the artifact routes in early genshin? I bet you that guy kept posting in every thread how "mandatory" they were, unless you wanted to "be behind".
>>1648055What's with WuWa fans and lying about their game?You do need to grind the overworld, your Carlotta won't have a full single crit set until 3.0 if you just wait for natural income and boxes lmaoLeveling characters is indeed easy, that's why I said>Much cheaper in terms of stamina gatingbut if you spend all that stamina on Tacet Fields, you WILL have to clean your inventory every week.The system is trash dude, stop coping
I hate gfl2 and brown dust 2
Any news on my favorite game?
>>1648070STOP BEING SO SUCCESSFUL AAAAAIIIEEEE
Dawei won bigly
>>1648082Imagine losing to a literal pngslop lol
Global saved GFL2
>>1648094what a shameit deserves to die because of mihoyo system
>>1648070nothing personal
1 genre2 different fates
>>1648095I like Mihoyo system, I always know exactly how many rolls I need and it's cheap. What's not to like?All upcoming games will have a Mihoyo system and that's a good thing.
>>1648094must be nice having the last laughmeanwhile the saboteurs are dying(they deserved it)
>>1648063Well, you should farm only when you need an specific echo anyway, but with a few days or even one day you can get the one you need, for example I already completed my Carlotta echo build yesterday after only 5 days of her release and by farming some elite echoes in two runsMeanwhile I've been farming some stupid set for a character in genshin for weeksAnd what I do now is just leave 5 or 10 echoes of each kind of common and boss ones, I did that yesterday and now my inventory won't be full for several weeksIt's not a perfect system but it's definitely more manageable than the trash artifact system
>>1648125>you don't have to farm the open world>but I didevery timeYeah me too dude, everyone farms the open world because relying on RNG won't get you anywhere, I already dumped 40 cubes into TF and burned all the echoes with nothing to show for it.Genshin system is better because it has 0 overhead: you log in, dump stamina and log out, that's it, no extra actions required.It will take a month or two longer for a good set compared to sweatlord farming in WuWa, but these games force you to log in and dump stamina anyway, genshin system is objectively less work.If you only spam TFs and don't farm the overworld it's literary just Genshin system but even slower.
[Sad News] Rumors that Infold Games' Ballad of Antara is getting cancelled. Women are already commemorating. Seems that Infinity Nikki didn't do well enough to fund the game's development.
>>1648138>made billions from Nikki and L&D>still not enough
>>1648135>I already dumped 40 cubes into TFClearly you didn't know what you were doingAny competent player knows that TFs are the LAST thing you use your cubes on, because you could end up just wasting themAlso, TFs are pretty much only for getting the tubes to level up anyway, never for hoping to get the echo you need, that's why you need to farm the specific echo you needFarming an elite echo takes around 20 minutes or less if you make a decent plan routeGod, people make dumb choices in games then blame the game for it
>>1648082The entire chinese anime mobile industry was just 30 billion yuan in 2024 and that's including games like Naruto mobile and DNFM, but Mihoyo somehow managed to make far more than the entire chinese industry?
>>1648155The image you're replying to accounts for PC sales.
>>1648151Bruh, I'm massively overcapping on every possible resource, I have 3k tuners 18m credits and literal hundreds of purple skill matsThe only thing I'm missing is echoes, and there is nothing else but TFs to dump those cubes on.You said that it's possible to get echo sets without grinding overworld, and that's what I did: dumped cubes into TFs to not farm echoes from the overworld>Trivial. You spend stamina in the artifact mine for some 5 days and that's itIt obviously didn't work because TFs give jack shit.So that was a fucking lie, even a month of this wouldn't be enough, let alone 5 days. It's not possible to get good enough sets for ToA in a reasonable time without grinding mobs like it's some korean MMOWe're done here
Guilongchao players are not happy with the new female character!
>>1648142Sounds like chink schizos lied about how successful LaDS is to push their ML narrative.Is there even any proof it's doing well besides made up iOS (platform for women) rankings?
>>1648184>Sounds like chink schizos lied about how successful LaDS is to push their ML narrative.It was the antiwaifufag that was mostly pushing LaDS as the top gacha.>Is there even any proof it's doing well besides made up iOS (platform for women) rankings?You mean the made up Revenooo charts with an equally made up 5x Mulitplier for CN?
>>1648184It is doing well, but the thing is that women for that game even cooperate together to spend on iOS to get it up the rankings, so its android revenue is most likely far lower than iOS in comparison. The game benefits greatly from the made up 2x android revenue multiplier. It also pretty much killed many other female-oriented games and damaged mixed toilets, since many women migrated to it.
>they are starting to admit defeat Why does the industry pander to gooners?
>>1648187>5x Mulitplier for CN?lmao is that actually a thing? I only knew about the android multiplier, this is even funnier.>It was the antiwaifufag that was mostly pushing LaDS as the top gacha.Our resident femmc seether pushed it too which is the weird thing, I assume that one is a real chink.
>>1648190There are many multipliersandroid cn multiplierpc revenue multiplierconsole multipliermerch multiplierchange the multipliers and you can boast about whatever you want.
>>1648190>lmao is that actually a thing?Yes. I will let you guess why.
>>1648192What the fuck man thousands of posts about this stupid shit and it's all just a reddit psyopI'm having a fucking stroke right now this is too funny
>>1648189>four years of gachaBet you I can guess what their first one was.
>>1648192>It's realLMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>1648189Because they spend money? lolNobody suggest the fag to play Limbus Company? Sounds like the game xe would like.
>>1648198what money? genshit hsr and zzz are dying after pandering to gooners >>1648082even the archon doesn't sell anymore lole
>>1648162Now this is a secret multiplier
>>1648082wheres the link bwo
>>1648223I'm a gooner and believe me there's no pandering for me in HSR. This version banner was a homo and a fully clothed, new version of a female (the older version showed a bit of cleavage, this one is fully covered up). 3.0 version is a bunch of fully clothed females, but of course the trailer wasted no time proudly displaying two full frontal nudity males.
I uninstalled it when I saw the trailer, I'm not willing to finance sumeru 2.0take the opportunity to start wuthering waves and GFL2 at least they have the skip button and no homosexuality so far
>>1648181had to look this game up, characters look like shit, a femcel's wet dream of a game. i would never play it because everyone looks like NPCs. Even genshit knows they need to make attractive characters.if femcels want more males, why don't they just spend more? Also kinda stupid adding more females, i doubt a 2:1 female to male ratio, will suddenly attract more male players. May aswell just cater to their homo/femcel audience, and milk them before EoS.
>>1648289We don't need incels, anyway
wasn't guilinchao from a group of female developers? at least I remember that in their promise stream, they were mostly women, now that they are dying and with the release of new games they are appealing to men? i doubt they will recover, this is more like a quick money raising operation before closing the server, any man who fall into that trap have to be delayed.
i don't care i have a choice unlike the mentally ill groups, if mihomo thinks he can fool people again in 2025 under the sunk cost, then they will bear the consequences.
>>1648223>genshit "98% of the girls are 4kids safe!" impact and wuxiaslop rail fail because pandering to goonersthat implies they released sexo girls in the first place. show me the lewdest girl released in hsr in last 7 months and bet she is like wearing hijab compared to actual gooner gachas
>>1648306I don't even play HSR but that shit is everywhere anyway, and I have never seen a legit risky design in that shitFanarts fool people like with Sparkle but in the actual game her design is pretty tame
>>1648306Yunli is barely wearing anything but she wasn't enough to make me pick up a hoyo game again.
>>1647328>>1647329>>1647330>>1647331>>the dating system>>9-11 playable female characters and 2-3 male characters>>The game features a clothing system, allowing players to freely customize outfits like in Infinity Nikki. Clothing is shared among characters of the same gender and automatically adjusts to fit different body types. For example, the same swimsuit can be worn by all characters of the same gender. Testers had access to outfits like basketball jerseys, swimsuits, gym wear, and uniforms.>Retards were pretending this wasn't going to be a ML gamelmao
What's an actual gooner gacha. Enlighten me
>>1648312fgo
>>1648312Snowbreak.
Horizon Walker
>>1648308i checked wiki and she looks pretty tame like typical oyohim girls maybe its her animations and personality? i can see why you aren't going back to that game
>>1648317Bare feet are literally nudity for some hoyofags, anon
>>1648310But it won't? Just by the fact that it was playable males besides the protagWuwa for example didn't end up being a ML game in the endIt did give hints here and there but in the end, Kuro decided to cuck their fanbase with the 2.0 new region
>>1648317I could have sworn she was more revealing. I take it back then.
>>1648323>I could have sworn she was more revealingSee >>1648307>>Fanarts fool peopleI won't lie, the japanese fanart is like 90% of Hoyo's marketing, and even for free, kek
>>1648312people are so retarded and prude, simply allowing pantyshots without the camera fading, or wearing bodysuits is considered "gooner" to them. Even something like snowbreak, is PG compared to LaDS. Yet people will call snowbreak and zzz gooner. So the standard is basically anything that has "male gaze". So genshit is gooner now.
>>1648284I've seen some female models from HSR that look like men in drag. I don't know who the fuck they're pandering to but it's not straight gooners.
>>1648189Love to see it.Get fucked, faggots.
>>1648321You're either a complete retard or the omni-thread troll lmao
>>1648312>ACTUAL gooner gachakansen x shoujo
>>1648328So why did people just stop saying coomer? It means the same exact thing to the people using the word. No idea why they shit out another word to just mean the same thing. Guess coomer got ran into the ground so they needed a new work to make people "others".
>>1648319Footniggers are deranged enough to find it sexual so it makes sense
>>1648336i don't know, i still say coomer, i only see leftists use gooner. i only use gooner ironically. maybe because gooner is supposed to be pejorative, while coomer is fairly endearing.
>>1648333For posterity. I remember this one got some attention not that long ago. Four tits and she's one of the more tame ones in that game.
>>1648321Told you 2.0 will face a challenge with the dykebait, shipshit, and the shallow pandering but oh boy idiots would defend their last bastion like no tomorrow.
Anything can be [x]bait if you are mentally ill enough.
>>1648362The fact that WuWa husbando subreddit like it, that's all I need to know.
thread full of schizos
>>1648362QRD? Did kuro cave to shippers?
>>1648383Tencent bought it. Take a guess.
>>1648336>New and improve, trend chasers. Try blue - it's the new red.That sort of thing.
>>1648383It was discussed pretty late on the last thread, just look it up with the keyword "kuro" or anything related.
>>1648394>ctrl + F "kuro">its almost all gameplay discussion???????????
>>1648396Lmao, must be talking about the green text schizobable that got spammed in /vg/ by the hoyokeks.
i don't know what you're talking about, you fucking mental ill asshole, the only thing i saw was discussions about the new TOA and the swelling of HP%
>>1648396Obviously just like in this thread they tried to damage control so much and pretend that it never happened.
Why does MHY keep angering their female players?
>>1648405
>>1648405>anemo inazuma female>extremely shitty kit>standard characterDOA unironically
>>1648405>>1648406We lost Capitano for this...
>>1648383Since wuwa cultists won't tell you the truth, i did some digging. Femcels seem to love it, because it's no longer ML. I don't play this shit, so don't shoot the messenger
>doesn't play it>goes to reddit of all places for "the truth"LMAO
>>1648312>Asking actual Gooner gachaUnironically you can find on ero-lab, fanza, and qooapps to find actual Gooner gachage (taimanin, legend clover, tenkafuma, etc). or if you don't mind with gay goons. Install LaDS
how strange because i check that subreddit, and the schizo admin troon is shitting on carlotta for being gooner bait for self-insert delulu
>>1648415They're more objective than here
>>1648410Goooooooooodd.
>>1648406>genshin is now literally porn>mizuki has a big buttChrist, reading these femcels schizo ramblings is so fucking funny
>>1648414Inclusive!
>>1646610desu these types of games are for the lowest of the low, bottom of the barrel trashit makes sense why even the people creating these games have a hate boner for such pathetic losers lel>>1647296absolutely wild how tendieshit gachasloppa with the lowest amount of effort makes more than these 3d gachasbrand power is insaneand the /v/intendo slop slurpers never cry about it the same way they bitch about chinese gacha daily
>>1647328>>1647329>>1647330>>1647331i am very excited for this and roco kingdomthe multiplayer mode will be fun if we can have some variety in customization for our main characters and just fool around with other online players
>>1647330>>1647331>no artifacts or stamina>clothing and customizationalready better than the entire plague of low effort gachashit in the markethope they stick with this instead of caving to chink bugmen who prefer slaving their lives off in artifact mines
Guilongchao 1.3 announcement Banner will last for almost 2 months
>>1647339hottaniggers think anyone cares for urban genshit with vtumorslop character designs kek
Feixiao bros arent very happy with current HSR
>>1648452>next banner is a homo>and will last for two whole monthsAm I reading this right? Are they speedrunning to EOS now?
>>1647988heartopia will be once it releases
>>1648463>Feixiao bros arent very happy with current HSRQRD?
>>1648452>>1648464>Banner will last for almost 2 monthsThe homo doesn't even have a promotional PV, what happened?
Why didnt anyone complain about Kuro secretly increased the difficulty of Abyss?This guy used the same team that could get full stars before new patch.
Can you dumb fucks at least post the context of the drama instead of dumping a shitty MTL image that's barely readable?
>he cant decode the MTL gibberishngmi
>>1648312Anything by KMS on DMM Fanza, which includes Twinkle Star Knights, Girls Creation, Mist Train Girls, Tenkei Paradox, Otogi Frontier, Monmusu TD, Flower Knight Girl and more
>>1648452>broad square pecs>show tummy absNow is your chance to save your game, sisters.>>1648467They have no money to spend. It's that bad.
According to Lenovo Savior gaming notebook list, ZZZ has 190k total downloads and its daily active players couldnt get into top 10.Meanwhile total downloads/active players for GI and HSR are 14M/300k and 3M/220k respectively https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=42951592
>>1648484This data seems fake to me, I mean no way Wuwa has more active players than Genshin but somehow makes way less money. And Crossfire is still around? isn't that game dead already.
>>1648470these threads are for esl thirdworlders who speak broken english, so they understand this gibberish
>>1648463>Chink wank floppedGood.
>>1647943Unless they rewrite the entire shipbait of Bastet and Anubis this game is bad as mihoyo games for me
>>1648405they're trying to kill the game and it's working wonders
>>1648405Who the hell is Hitler?
>>1648312The threshold of "gooner gacha" keeps rising every year because bottom barrel companies try to outdo each other by crossing the lines of censorships/public decency. A 12+ gacha design like >>1648317 would have parents literally protesting on the streets in the 2000s, requesting the game to be shut down for being "literally porn in a teen game"
>>1647943That MC looks like how every fat otaku imagine themselves to look like.
>>1648490Isn’t Crossfire the Counterstrike but for Asians?
>>1648539Well that's probably exactly what they plugged into the AI generator.
>>1648538>parents literally protesting on the streets in the 2000seither you are very young and born post 2000s, or you live in the third world, literally no one would have cared, this anti-sexualization of characters in gaming is a modern 4th wave feminism thing pushed by SJWs during the obama era.
>>1647943>>1647945>>1647947>>1647950>>1647964>>1648539>That MC looks like how every fat otaku imagine themselves to look like.He looks hot as fuck, you guys are retarded.
>>1648546There's a certain type of MC that fatties love to self-insert to.
>>1648546It's literally just generic protagonist #4679
>>1648546>He looks hot as fucki want someone who represents me
>>1648468It increases every patch lol, WuWa players never complain about anythingI can still clear it but it's harder than last reset, and that already had 3 waves and was harder than beforeIt will get even harder in the future because none of the 2.0 powercreep bosses are added yet. Soon it will be mathematically impossible to clear with a 4* weapon
>>1648553Every gacha protagonist should realistically look like this.
>>1648545This, even in the west there's tons of shit from the 2000s and older that's a lot lewder than whatever the fuck Hoyoverse puts out.
>>1648405That design is so fucking bad. But the way it makes femcels seethe is delicious.Good job, Mihomo.
>>1648519At this point it's clear Mihoyo as a company is just severely lacking direction. They used to pave the way for Chinese gacha industry to follow them mainly by copying whatever new gameplay is trending on Japan. But now that Japan is not brimming with new ideas to copy anymore (some Chinese companies try to copy soulslike and roguelike games, Seasun's Mecha Break copied Armored Core, maybe they'll copy ReFantazio next but nothing truly remarkable) so Mihoyo just copy their own games which are themselves copies of other games. ZZZ took HSR's SU which was taken from HI3's ER which was taken from StS/DD/Hades, they also released Harumasa the generic short male who is Wanderer's expy, in a game that used to be primarily known for coom/waifu/lolipandering and bara furries. Genshin instead took ZZZ's waifupandering and left their female players in the dust despite being the one game best positioned to rival LADS for female audience. HSR is in the process of copying LB6 from FGO, but somehow they also wanted that female audience back after driving them away with Firefly's waifupandering so they've been releasing and announcing male characters to lure females back. The result is several chimera-like gacha games with no defining identity that can distinguish them from each other. "If you've played one Mihoyo game, you've played them all." People say it's the fault of omnipandering but I don't think it's true because they don't even try to omnipander anymore. Instead of pandering to everyone over two patches (for example one loli one hag one short male one tall male), they do it in an extreme way where you can get starved for several months until the niche you prefer gets cycled back in. Months of starvation can drive away the most loyal fans, and once they've left they'd rather look for new games. They won't get easily baited back even if Mihoyo release, say, several waifus or several husbandos in a row.
>>1648572I'm not here to argue, so I won't reply to replies BUTHSR 2.x 5* males>Aventurine, Boothill, Jiaoqiu, SundayHSR 3.x 5* males>Mydei, Anaxa, Phainon, Masked person (if male)HSR 2.x 4* males>Misha, Gallaghar, MozeHSR 3.x 4* males>It's funny to me that people keep saying that HSR's 3.x is suppose to be for females when there's LESS males than in the supposed waifufag's 2.x. And before anyone asks, Misha and Gallaghar were shown in White Night but there's no extra males in th 3.x equivalent so they have to repeatedly pull out multiple males out of their ass to hit 2.x numbers.Aventurine also took up a shit load of screen time and an entire patch so it's not like Phainon taking up a bunch of screen time will be unprecedented.
>>1648581HSR is certainly the closest to omnipandering considering the other Mihoyo games are in their waifu phase. I think the perception of more males in 3.x comes from them being centered front particularly Phainon. HSR also has more males already teased beforehand which means they're guaranteed more males compared to other Mihoyo games:>HSR3rd version of Danheng, Mr. Reca, Screwllum, Stephen Lloyd, Opal, Sugilite, Diamond, Oswald, upgrades of Gallagher and Sampo >GenshinIfa, Dottore, Pierro, Pantalone, Pulcinella, Dainsleif, Varka and we know Genshin's model restriction means several will be killed off>ZZZ Hugo Vlad, Big Daddy, maybe Mors and Bellum if they're being generous.
>>1648581all covered women count as men and every topless man counts as three men
where is LADS here?
>>1648572they would've been fine if they were satisfied with zzz being their high budget waifuslop passion project but the retards got too greedy and decided to turn their cash cows into waifuflop simulators too
because women are broke it's that simple, infinity nikki and guilinchao is the failure to trust women's money, mihoyo's money came from a huge amount of normies as a result of covid-19, once those normies no longer entered their games en masse because the video game space became normalized and they returned to their old games of payment by subscription or single players mihoyo slows down, the collection plummets and it realized that it had to enter a phase of retention
This place is the only place I've ever heard something called guilinchao exists. Forget trusting women they don't even attempt global release and market their game through ads. And you wonder why it flopped.
the archon + pagbait double banner flopped and sold less than fontaine's 4th best banner btwthat's what happens if you shit out femorrhoid flops nonstop.
>>1648617Anon, it's literal shovelwareThis and the chink forum we copypaste from are the only places on the internet that talk about it
Inazuma was the highest peak and was it waifuslop? What are you getting at, Fontaine barely made half the money of a single banner of the first 3 reruns of Raiden Shogun and Sumeru was a failure that had to rely on waifuslops reruns, women are broken period.
>>1648610LADsisters, how do we respond!? Could it be the meme revenue were actually false all this time???
>>1648623>Fontaine flopped>IT'S BECAUSE OF FEMALES AAAAIIIEEEEEI find it funny that anon keep saying females flopped when 3.2 to end of Fontaine is all male focused patch. Most of the players didn't roll for Neuv on his debut and Wrio fucking flopped also that gay french magician dude at the start of the region. Waifu banners flop more like female playerbase refuse to spend.
trannyzuma benefited from being an already popular game's first new region, if it was released today it would've flopped bigly like floplan. even then, pagden and yelan were the only bitches who didn't flop because they got carried by their kitsanyway, you're the one who has to prove that waifuflops didn't kill genshit. why did the archon+pagbait's double banner flop after a year of shitting out femorrhoids?
>>1648094>>1648097shitbreak lost, bigly.
>>1648634mumu will save SB
>>1648634EoS soon...
>>1648630barring poorina, neuvillette outsold every femorrhoid that came out after him including the recently released pyro archon + waifupagbait double banner
>>1648623Not trying to argue, Inazuma was the peak of Genshin in terms of revenue but it was also when people started to experience the limitations of Genshin.Arataki Itto fiasco made people realize Genshin would forever be limited by shitty 3D modeling that can't simulate new type of playable bodies.Yae Miko's kit made people realize Genshin would forever be about putting down stuff/construct on the ground instead of having an engaging gameplay. Proven true by Emilie a recent release who still puts stuff on the ground.Usage of black screen to replace cutscenes everywhere (still true now in Mihoyo's games, by the way)Tedious exploration in a badly-designed map that felt nothing like Mondstadt (exacerbated even further in Sumeru) laden with bad puzzles and unfun environmental hazard.Underwhelming Archon Quest full of gibberish, so underwhelming that people tried to memoryhole it. Devs also killed La Signora, a fan-favorite villainess, in a very anti-climatic way. Kazuha nonstop shilling. Kokomi who was supposed to be a genius but said really dumb things. Teppei, don't forget Teppei fiasco.New enemies that were all specifically made to shill new characters (Kokomi banner still flopped btw, she was the lowest selling character despite being shilled for a whole year in Abyss)Invulnerable enemies that would fly or go underground for a period of time that used to not exist before Inazuma.Mediocre fishing mini-game with no depth/nuance but required for The Catch, a very strong 4* polearm. Shit was tedious as fuck.Unity engine crowd size limitation was very apparent in Inazuma. You heard about how the Shogunate commands the entire nation then you get to sections with soldiers and there were like 10 soldiers in total.Inazuma started the downfall of Genshin and anybody who says it was Sumeru is truly clueless.
>DeflectionWhy is so hard for (you) to accept that it's because things like gayshipping like AlKaveh, NTR with Nahida/Nilou whose has interested in Travaler, the dragon wank that killed the MALE PLAYERS interest in the game?Explain me this, how Hu Tao is still beloved despite zero story revelation? She sold well on her rerun.
the hutranny+nashitda rerun is literally the worst genshit banner so far. it's the banner before flopsca lmaofemorrhoids never sell unless they're gigameta. this is why ayaka kokomi and yoimiya flopped despite coming out back to back in trannyzuma
>>1648636>with the 5x chink bonus too
[SAD NEWS] Starting from today Mihoyo cant make use of their relationship with Shanghai police to arrest anti fans from other cities like they did with Mihachi. How can Dawei protect his company from players' sharp voice?
no, it's like anon said, the fall of genshin impact began with sumeru, genshin impact maintained its fantasy open world presence until inazuma (fantasy open world is the branch mark of GI), then with sumeru it began to change to a strange scifi environment, passing moderately into fontaine and then natlan is the harvest of all that shit that breaks immersion, Genshin Impact went from being the game that is the anime zelda open world to ZZZ open world thanks to the funny ones that took over from sumeru.It's no surprise that the old characters are what still have more merchandising (collabs) than any garbage from Sumeru, Fontaine or Natlan.
You really shouldn't be surprised Mihoyo inserted their obsession with scifi shit into the game when they very clearly rebranded themselves to have all their games take place in the same universe.
>>1648654Meanwhile HSR is going down the fantasy route with ancient greece. Again, >>1648572.
Cuckhida sold well, even better than her boytoy that femcel craved.
>>1648636>making less money than a fucking png collectorsnowbreak is so fuck
>>1648650Money is drying out, hoyosisters...
It will eventually happen in all of their games so none will have a mark of distinction.the reason because mihoyo fails to diversify their players despite being able to do so because they had a complete monopoly is that HSR is just reconocible by Genshin Impact turn-based and ZZZ is just Genshin Impact arpg bet em up and the game that had a hallmark that was its fantasy open world Genshin Impact was transformed into something unrecognizable, after hiring several former employees of the film industry and Chinese drama TV novels in Sumeru. Genshin Impact was destroyed from the inside, it does not surprise to me that Yu Peng Chen sensei fled after he had declared some time ago that he would last 5 years in Genshin Impact
>>1648649it's 1.75x retard
Ok, after some days of thinking about it after having finished it, I will say itNatlan (You) pandering, both in the archon quest for the traveler being the key to victory, and Citlali being kind of in love with you, felt shoehorned and really fucking cheesyI feel that it was because Hoyo stopped doing (You) pandering since Sumeru and by when Natlan arrived, they lost their (You) pandering touch and made it really dumb in Natlan, or maybe people forgot about that sensation and now it feels weird, which is why a lot of people have complained about the region story
>>1648610
Despite being broken, Neuv did just average. Male characters just don't sell. Not even with huge powercreep.
guys, did sisters lie to us? LADS does not appear and could not even beat monster strike
>>1648617>>1648621>market their game through ads.They did in China though? Their most watched Bili video has almost 10 million views which is pretty much the same as ZZZ's launch numbers.You might not have heard of it but that doesn't mean CN players haven't, there's a reason why the game became a total meme fest over there after it got caught up in the feminist drama too.
>>1648617The game actually cost over 30 million dollars to make and spent millions monthly in advertising. It's actually pretty infamous in China.
>>1648684why would women use paimong.moe xis?why not talk about sales instead? neuvillette (september-october 2023) mogged arletranny (april-may 2024) and muttlani (august-september 2024) despite both of them being better than him >>1648637. poorina was the only bitch who outsold him within the same timeframe and only because she's the most broken buffer in the game
>>1648685>Clash of Clans at the bottomWhat happened? Have all the normalfags moved to Monopoly go?
>Data submitted = doesn't count>Make up numbers = reallmao
>>1648676Because they cannot decide how they want to traveler to interact with the world.In one instance you have characters touting them as this important figure. The sibling even reinforces this by focusing on them having their journey to come to their decision about the world. Then in other instances their presence doesn't matter and things would have happened similarly anyways. They also have a habit of downplaying the travelers influence on the world and elevating others actions instead.
>>1648689>>1648688Ah, one of those games with more marketing and botted views than quality. $30m is nothing though, considering Genshin costed Mihoyo $100m for 3 years of development (2017-2020) while Star Rail spent $300m in marketing on its first year alone. I guess that means Guilinchao is PGR level?
app rankings (which are the basis of estimated sales) aren't made up retardxis. your femorrhoid flops simply charted poorly
Why would genshin abandon worms if they make so much money? Don't corporations have a legal obligation to make as much as money as possible, even for their private stakeholders? Is there an incel conspiracy inside mihoyo? Would they rather make less money just to pump out endless femorrhoids?
>>1648659Retardbro...
>>1648695>PGR level?It's a 2D sidescroller, literal flash game level
if femorrhoid flops sell why is the current archon+pagbait banner selling less than fontaine's 4th best banner?it even flopped to FGO's male banner in japan kek
>>1648695>Guilinchao is PGR levelIf you compare launch patches it's bigger in scale i think.>>1648702>It's a 2D sidescroller, literal flash game levelThe game has big sandbox areas just like HSR maps.
/our/guy says Genshit is dyinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuOjsGSKxm4
>>1648704Any company that doesn't do simultaneous global release in the current year is just stupid. Especially anime games that often rely on anime fans to stay afloat, they're losing out by not having Japanese VAs and marketing to Japanese whales. Even moreso if they want to launch global version but with delayed content/updates. Releasing global version starting from 1.0 is a sure way to have some of your banners not selling at all due to people always referring/knowing future meta. $30m development cost was apparently enough to viewbot the shit out of their bilibili videos, but not enough to launch globally.
>>1648610what devices and regions is this considering? because pokemon tcg has already made like $200 million and it's not here
ananta, roco kingdom and heartopia will free me from hoyosloppai will only consider hoyo animal crossing clone if heartopia doesnt release for global (doubt)
>>1648711App Store (iPhone and iPad) and Google Play, pokemon TCG its not here because it is only the top 20 and i cannot enter because it was only released on October 30/2024 (only 2 months registered) but it will probably displace someone on this list by 2025
>Check thread>Seething about women being popular againClassic
No one cares but Wangyue will also have its first tech test on 9th
>>1648712You can free yourself you know.
>>1648739i'm going to be honest this game is going to be a floop like guilinchao, they have a good base to polish the gameplay but they choose to export the most unpopular aspects of the market, urban Chinese culture is shit with low demand and no one buys it, except for Chinese.if they don't have success in CN won't even be able to export this game to GL because that CN aspect is indifferent to the people in GL.
>>1648656NTA but isn't HSR setting is riding a train in SPACE?
ITT>Genshin>Genshin>HSR>HSR>ZZZ>ZZZAlmost like you fags are still playing it
>>1648878I still play HSR because I like 4 niggas in a row combat, but I can already tell that 3.x is going to be the game's Sumeru and start a downward spiral they never fully recover from. It's not the amount of males that's the problem, but that the male characters seem to be at the front and center while the females feel sidelined. The female character designs also all look incredibly bland to me, except for Aglaea. I don't give a fuck about all the HI3 expies.Dropped Genshit close to a year ago and have no regrets about it nor any desire to ever return. They're trying their hardest to win back the straight male audience but the damage is already done. Too many other games to compete with these days.
>>1648639Thank you for putting my feelings into words, I was so disappointment in 2.0 but I kept trying to like it, until I dropped it about 2.5 or so. Now I'm feeling the same about HSR, I'll check how 3.0 turns out but I', 95% sure mihoyo didn't put any effort to make the game better (unlike other game that shall not be named, lest my argument is called invalid for being a shill). The only reason I haven't dropped HSR is because how little time it consumes, and I legitimately have fun in divergent universe. But I'm more likely than not drop the game seeing as I don't want to spend 6 hours watching static characters yap without any new animations.
>>1648891>They're trying their hardest to win back the straight male audienceThey are NOT. The female designs are still boring as ever, nothing has come close to mona. There's still barely any pandering if at all, again, less than in 1.X. If they really are trying, they aren't trying hard at all.You know what men like? The character they play as to do cool shit, and get the girl at the end. Guess what game does that.https://youtu.be/XJ-yFww-QXQ?si=LCNHxzqDxxph8E8ahttps://youtu.be/S7wmNwa4HqQ?si=jOYh7BaKN__JinTJ
>>1648900>nothing has come close to monaThis. They aren't allowed to make a character wear a leotard. Just look at Citlali. They always have to put those damn shorts on them.
>>1648900I'd say you're both right. They are trying (Citlali being for You, Mavuika being a sexy biker chick with cleavage and ass jiggle) they just suck fucking complete shit at it now because they're inundated with bitchy women who'd riot if they actually did it right.
>>1648908>>1648916What I find funny about Citlali's design is that it's OBVIOUS that she's meant to be wearing only the one piece leotard.And even though she's wearing shorts, Hoyo gave her that weird cutout only on her left thigh just to give the illusion under certain camera angles that she's wearing the leotard only, kek.
>>1648650Time to bring back the tranny devs doing self-insert "theory".
>>1648891I am currently in the same situation as you and it smells like sumeru 2.0 to me, mihoyo are good at cheating so I already put my account up for sale, i have a couple of buyers and my sunk cost fortunately is not as high as in genshin, only a couple of $5 cards.>>1648900I have received good references about Wuwa from my friends who also play PGR, they told me that Kuro does not have a history of homosexuality or shipping, which is because the game is hated by female players, troons and feminists apparently and they call it gathering wives, proof for me that i could give it a try
>>1648935>Kuro does not have a history of homosexuality or shippingI will judge it only when Zani and Phoebe quests get released since there was something fishy about them in this main quest, so until now we should reserve our judgement
>>1648878Well i am. Despite all the critiques, those are the only games worth playing that's also high quality.
>>1648935>Kuro does not have a history of homosexuality or shippingThey were burned for letting shipshit happen before actually. IIRC, some artfag did a Bianca x Wata fanart and Kuro showed it in one of the stream in the past which made people fucking mad because crackshiping was a thing in the CN PGR community in the early days of the game and Kuro indirectly endorsed it without knowing. They apologized and since then there has been very little shipping in PGR, but I'll hold my judgement until Zani's quest is out, the westoids are all banking on her to be dykeshit like Arletroon.
[NEWS]Wuthering Waves seems to be taking the shipping/yuri route while still trying to bait the ML faction with characters like Carlotta and the hebe Elf, this new tactic would save the already bad revenue that Wuthering Waves has? >>1646451 or it be the final nail in the coffin? Also a lot of Chinese users are not happy with Brant being Changli designed partner gameplay wise, a bunch of them are joining to mass report the game to CCP if Kuro doesn't the bend knee a make changes, could this trigger a new wave of censorship on CN?
>>1648958>They apologized and since then there has been very little shipping in PGR>since then there has been very little shipping in PGR>very little shipping in PGRBut Kurobots told me PGR has no shipping and is a waifugame? KEK
>>1648960>ML crowd want to report a game to CCP>they can use whatever excuse but we all know the real reason being the game not pandering hard enough to them>CCP censorship hammer comes crashing down>they tell the game to pander even less toward the ML crowd as part of the government's anti-gaming addiction effortLooking forward to it.
>>1648949>>1648958>I will judge it only when Zani and Phoebe quests get released since there was something fishy about them>I'll hold my judgement until Zani's quest is out, the westoids are all banking on her to be dykeshit like Arletroon.I really, really doubt they're not going to aim for ML with Zani. It's just going to be another meltdown from the women when she's for (You) all over again.
>>1648958Anon call me battered wife or whatever but I already experienced this shit with genshit,the devs are gonna be removing the (you) pandering little by little until the protagonist is walking camera, Carlotta quest was really good and Zani and Phoebe are gonna have some mild for (you) pandering their quest but they are gonna be still be dykebait, I hope I am wrong because i really like wuwa desu>>1648960>Also a lot of Chinese users are not happy with Brant being Changli designed partner gameplay wise, a bunch of them are joining to mass report the game to CCP if Kuro doesn't the bend knee a make changes, could this trigger a new wave of censorship on CN?Holy fucking retards
>>1648960It's going to be another case of that isn't it?>purposefully make shit decisions>slurpers mad>"fix" those decisions>ZOMG DEVS LISTENED G GAME COULD NEVER
>>1648960This is why normalfags think waifufags are mentally ill.
>>1648997>because troons/femcels don't do the same exact thing, but are actually successful >>1647127
Infold will have their first civil court next week
>>1649002>BAfags reporting on ALThat's waifufags on waifufags violence.
Someone pushed the wrong button and let Bilibili users download Stellar Sora
>>1649007more like pedo on waifufag violence, let's not forget that time when troonknights players mass reported AL and it was censored for a year, and more recently, snowbreak getting constantly reported to the ccp and forced to censor. waifufags are the victims, they are only fighting fire with fire. Also genshin censored rosaria, jean, etc because femcels complained
>>1649009Pedos are still waifufags, the difference is their waifus are 10 year olds. I think femcels are also pathetic but I don't believe they have any political power to censor shit. They are politically weak and the vast majority of Xi's subordinates are still men.
>>1649008>Test time>2025-01-09 11:00 ~ 2025-01-13 22:00
>>1648960isn't that just about skill kits? what does it have to do with history and yuri? Or is it just that i'm not schizo enough?
>>1648960but changli isn't even a DPS hypercarry and although she can be played as such, she is potentially the most comfortable quickswap DPS in the entire game and currently her best team is actually with carlota quickswap for speed run, much better than zheshi for carlotta hypercarry and release zheshi for jinhsi.
>>1648960> real schizophrenia>make up things about brant and changli without knowing that changli is not even played in a hypercarry since her release, best team was with jinhsi (the fastest team in 1.x) and now it is with carlotta to free zeshi in the current TOA with benefits for sezhi and carlotta.
>Ranking of the Top 100 Chinese Global Brands in 2024Our beloved Mihoyo at 68th
>>1649053Context of the ranking
Youtube's reaction to the news that Genshin revenue had gone down 60%. Gender imbalance especially not making Capitano playable, toxic community, repetitive gameplay, China's economic decline, refusal to listen to feedback, and Natlan's weird artistic direction seem to be the main issues.
>>1649056>Youtube's reaction to the news that Genshin revenue had gone down 60%.Link?
>>1649056It's ironic that Genshin fans used to mog Wuwa/Snowbreak for focusing on incel pandering more than making good content yet it does the same thing right now.
>>1649056>correlation and causation retardsthis shit started with sumeru, you're now seeing the fruits of their labor, natlan is a desperate maneuver to salvage the damage sumeru and fontaine did. If sumeru and fontaine were such a success, why don't they just do another sumeru? duh
Lemme guess, from the Asmongoloid's video?
>>1649057>>1649060Here, it appeared on my Youtube homepage so I clicked. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6PBXIAi9fQQ
>>1649019He likes spamming his copypasta.
>>1649061>hoyoseethers are brownoidsshocking
>>1649019he's full on spamming schizo copypasta because people took his bait last thread.
>>1649066What does this have to do with anything? The youtuber only relayed news from other sites, Tectone who's white is the biggest Genshin hater around, white people are the biggest downplayer of gacha genre (they call it gotcha), while Sevy/zkodla who are brown are arguably some of the biggest hoyoslurpers.
>>1648094Didn't CN do extremely well in its first month or two? Did global beat that?
>>1649081It did very well for this first 2 months and after that the game started to flop, not only because of the cuck drama, but also because of the shitty genshin gacha system and the lack of content. I don't remember the exact number since the release in CN was a long time ago, but it was enough for the game to not EOS. Doubt that global will be able to carry this game for a long time tho, game has a lot of problems and only natural for gachas to drop revenue after a few months or so, basically a fotm.
>>1649066kekit's funny because these are the kind of shitskins calling others brown in the other gacha thread
>>1649056Remember when those same homos said genshit was the unbeatable game? KEK those faggots tourists are a joke, glad they are starting to leave gacha. With homoverse and shithoyo formula dying, gacha games can start healing
>>1649056>refusal to listen to feedbacklets be real this is what's gonna really kill genshin and hoyo in general. how much lower does the revenue need to drop before they add a skip scene button to genshin and hsr?
>>1649087Tried looking for relevant charts and this is the best I could do. This doesn't seem right, game released on 21 December 2023 in CN. I'd have assumed this was before they added the Android multiplier but Hoyo games are at the top. I'm not well versed enough in Bilibili channels to go looking there.
>>1649095Their ego is to high, they rather set the whole company on fire before improving their game in any form. All they did all those years was create slurpers that will defend any garbage decision they had, now those same slurpers are leaving genshit for a new shining gacha toy or straight up leaving the genre to be normalfags irl.
>>1649098I remember on the CN charts the game made enough to paid for their entire development on the firsts 1-2 month on release, after that the game started to flop really bad. Those sensortowers numbers are all made up and fake, their only purpose is to make redditors fight every month
>>1649095They would rather release a new game than program a skip button.
>>1649103Oh well. We'll see how it fares over the coming months
What's going on?!
>>1649095Mihomo writers refuse to let people call their writing slop so the yappings will continue until morale improves.
>>1649111Xi cracks down on "sissy" culture
>>1649111wasn't some retarded anon earlier arguing that china doesn't crackdown on faggots? well here's his answer, now if only they get venti and kaveh removed from genshin
>>1649111>>1649114There's been a crackdown not just on gay stuff, but anything considered degenerate by The Party. "Degenerate" does not only include yaoi but also virtual waifus. That's why sexy games are also being heavily censored.I suspect this is because China's birth rate is projected to plummet. But instead of making pro-family measures that would help young people to start a family, those old boomers would rather blame movies, literature, and video games for "corrupting the youth".We can fully expect the Chinese government to restrict AI chatbots in the future because "virtual AI girlfriend is dangerous and corrupts the youth".Japan and Korea gaming industry must stop fucking around and do something to rival China else the future is doomed.
>look at the birth rate of Japan and Korea >they are even in much deeper shitthe only solution is state-mandated wife
>>1649120All fun and games until your state-mandated wife is a 3/10
>>1649117Nah, it's too late. The market is oversaturated now. Whatever gacha that came out last year just barely got it's slice of the pie.This year will be a fucking carnage and I don't think many will survive.
What killed the BA hype?
>>1646651>Desu there's a lot of /u/shit on kancolle.In the game's entire history there was 1(one) character that might be considered /u/bait(and it's unrequited throuple setup, not actual yuri) If you mean fanworks they're insignificant compared to its overall volume.
>>1649131their OG devs left
>>1649081In CN launch, December 2023, the game supposedly made around 9-12 million dollar, which in the y axis would be around 8000 in that chart.Global launch made around 40-65 million.
>>1649128True. Rising production costs, oversaturated market, weakened purchasing power, lack of innovative gameplay, licensing process that could take up to one year, lack of good writers/animators (is there even such thing as a good writer in China?), and if you go for niche pandering or you'll get obliterated by government censorship.The bubble will burst. Things will get really ugly.
Why dont JP put more effort into gachaslop than AAAslophttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXWAYmEQKso
>>1649139They don't think of gacha as a real game. More like waifu collector.
>>1649139Why don't Chinks copy the Monster Hunter formula?
[SAD NEWS] The homofujo owner of Genshin Leak Bar was banned by Tieba.
>>1649061>only mentions the issues with male charactersI see an obvious bias here.
>>1649135Holy shit, so they've made enough to keep the game running another 4 years at minimum with just the global launch. Of course it'll go down after the honeymoon period but this is essentially a second life for the game.
>>1649186Anyone who thought an older franchise that at one point was pretty popular in JP wouldn't have a decent launch over there is beyond stupid.
Bad news for our Mihoyo PC revenue multiplier. The Guangdong game show recently reported that revenue for PC client games was 60 billion yuan, of which Tencent and Netease accounted for the majority. For other provinces except Guangdong, PC client revenue was only 8 billion yuan. This means Mihoyo's PC revenue is lower than even their iOS version.
>>1649190Bro, do you even read the thread? "Beyond stupid" is the norm here, overwhelming majority of shit posted here outside the burger time zone is just pagpag fantasies about the entire gacha industry going bankrupt overnight
[Happy News] Ballad of Antara will be coming back, but as a single player game.
>>1649208ooof
>>1649111> rise of donald trump this month> several companies begin to eliminate DEI> Musk seems to have more power than people thinkall the sissy and feminist shit of the last 4 years is dying and those involved who dedicated themselves to promoting it are leaving them isolated.
to be fair that's just for CN, and in reality the PC industry as a whole grew 3.5B in 2024 and the mobile industry 2.7B in 2024, the mobile slowed down
>>1649217>implying it was canceled to begin withretard. no shit they'd change their plans after seeing wukong become a massive hit
The Stella Sora playerbase has already started purifying the community's toxic players! Their community groups have began kicking out anyone unworthy who even dares to play Stella Sora without spending money. The playerbase is making it clear it doesn't want any low-quality customers playing Yostar's first game.
>>1649235I doubt it's much higher on global or other asian regions
>>1649058>implyingThey were making femcel pandering for two regions.
>>1649255gaming pc market size was valued at USD 60.84 billion in 2024 and is likely to cross USA 287.87 billion by 2037. expanding at more that 12.7% CAGR during the forecast period i.e., between 2025-2037, estimated in 2025 at USD 67.02 billion.International Trade Association, as described that the sales have increasead in the USA, consumer speding on videogames and subscription services has increased by a record 31%
>>1649281Yeah but Genshin isn't that big
>>1649293wow is it over for LADS?
HSR decreases the number of pulls for a new region even though they now release triple banners with a 90% of female characters.more and more the patch 3.0 looks like wormmeru, run away from this crap as soon as possible, hoyo repeats the same crap in all its games.
>>1649298but dawei told me they are going back to the roots:tm:
>>1649301Yes.Have you seen how bad HI3 jew you out?
>s-sales are le fake if my femorrhoids are flopping and can't reach top 1 like LADS boring
They've always used the female characters to support the worms and that hasn't changed. in HSR, unlike wormmeru, instead of launching them all at once so that it is not noticed, they will do it in long periods but most of the worms are intended to replace the female characters like jingliu and SW, then they launch triple banners of 90% female chara ( like hutao/yelan, ayaka/shenhe, nahida/nilou) because they know that these worms don't make money and they squeeze the waifu players to keep that crap.fate's collaboration doesn't have gilgamesh because that worm makes less money than Saber and Archer doesn't can be replaced because it is UBW.
So what is the problem with Brown Dust 2?
>>1649312mixed toilet
>>1649298don't worry xis fireflop already made everyone quit and they're definitely not gonna come back for more shitty femorrhoids in 3.x
another Genshin Impact future playable female character, istaroth's shadow appearance is revealed.
With the massive revenue downward trend of open world gacha games such as Genshin and Wuthering Waves, what's going to happen to these 2 games once more open world gacha games release this year? (NTE, ANANTA, Wang Yue, Arknights Endfield etc.)
>>1649338genshin will stay on topunless netease did their research properly ananta would be another ToFeverything else will make wuwa tier amount of money
>>1649338Endfield might be the most attractive among the upcoming open world slops, but the relatively high-end system requirement it demands might get in the way of trying to overtake hoyo.
>>1649338This is the same thing people were saying about hero shooters, now look at Rivals.The market isn't saturated, it's just shit. Make a good one and watch it explode all over again.
>>1649330Probably a bait but i'll take femcel tears anytime.
>>1649338>NTE, ANANTA, Wang Yuenothing, these look like absolute garbage>Endfield, APthese won't appeal much to the core mihomo audienceEndfield will steal hardcore chink gamers, and AP will steal non-faggots. Hoyo will get gayer as a response, and the revenue will drop some more but they'll stay on top overall>>1649343I agree, but most of these games already show signs of being trash. Endfield is the only real wildcard
>>1649350Enfield seems more niche than the rest of the games and the system requirements are absurd for a game that uses the Unity engine.
>>1649352If the game is fun to play, normalfags that have no business being interested in that shit will flood en masse: see Dark Souls and FactorioEndfield's gameplay is an unknown, the game can end up absolutely anywhere from flop to huge success
>>1649350Lol, enfield is a guaranteed flop, no normalfag will play a factoria simulator and a small group of hardcore chinks won't be able to support a big game like thatAP seems to be a big clusterfuck rn and we don't even know what direction it will take, it could end up being mixed or it will be heavily toned down anyway considering the latest chinese news
>>1649360Would be funny if Endfield actually end up making less than AK1.
>>1649360but enough about poowa
>>1649360Factorio is huge, retard. And still trying to pretend AP is "mixed" when devs confirmed it's female only, is about what I'd expect from such an idiot.
>>1649364>AP is "mixed" when devs confirmed it's female only,This thread likes to do mental gymnastics by claiming that males will be free since Manjuu said the gacha would be female only.
>>1649350The core gameplay is still the same, explore, 3rd person combat, wordslop, censored .obj collector.They should look at gfl2 to understand what truly sells.
>>1649368>gfl2>sells
>>1649367>here's how Hillary can still winImagine hating female MC so much you do THIS level of mental gymnasticsI hate chinks man
>>1649357there is a difference between:PC normalflasgmobile normalflagsconsole normalflags.why would a normalflag play a factorio on PC or console? it is the same as dedicating more than 80GB of space to the HSR of your PC or your console for a turn-based game. and here comes the other problem, the factorio is made for mobiles but Enfield's mobile requirements are absurd, how many players will not be filtered out because of that, its niche af.
>>1649370I'm waiting for when they try to change the definition of mixed toilet.
>>1649368>stamina is dumped with a click of a button>auto option for all the easy and boring shit>story structured like a VN that you can just skip then read in one sitting without having to run all over the place between dialogsYes it's a massive improvement, but I don't see what's stopping chinkdevs from implementing all of this into an open-world game.Whoever does it first will make bank.
Guilongchao HR accidentally sent the "optimization" plan as a recruitment description.
>>1649369you lost mumu
[GOOD NEWS]Lack-sensei, the FGO artist/character designer, started playing WuWa just a few days ago and is already hooked. After finishing Jinshi’s story, he couldn’t resist falling for Changli.
>>1649391Wuwa x Fate collab when? Nasu is obviously mad after Dawei stole Gil for HSR without his permission
>>1649391>only girl Lack has ever gotten for FGO is AndromedaShame.
>>1648650[GOOD NEWS] MiStation aka Bilibili for some reason had lift the ban from Mihachi so now he can stream on this platform again. Obviously MXZ isn't happy with this outcome.
>>1649391>>1649395>only played it because it release on SnoystationJaps are retarded.
>>1649410yes
>>1649137Don't threat me with a good time anon.
>>1649411dios mio...
>>1649410well yes
>>1649413Also HSR has 28k reviews on PSN while ZZZ has 36kThe "no one plays HSR on PS" myth isnt even true at all
i am more interested in knowing what the gameplay of Battle Operation 2 is so that ZZZ and HSR is behind that game, knowing that the JP are very hoyoshills
>JP are very hoyoshillshoyo cant even dominate comikettheir shills are loyal but there aren't that many of them
>>1649411where is infinity nikki? sisters told me that 99.9% of their revenue came from PC and consoles but it doesn't even appear in any top, sisters lies
>>1649424https://store.playstation.com/ja-jp/category/4dfd67ab-4ed7-40b0-a937-a549aece13d0/1
>their shills are loyalLook around, who's even shilling for hoyo these days? Certainly not NA. Most of their "loyal" shills has been taken by the competitor.
>>1649425i thought PSO2:NGS was a dead game but it is above Infinity Nikki, or both are actually dead.
#HOYOCREATORS are loyal, but only because they need hoyo community to build their brand name.
>>1649433until PSN implements active players count like Steam we will never know since the ranking is based on IAP
>>1649431All of gachagaming, which is a pretty sizable army
Why is wuwa a devil game?
>>1649396Wasting good artist on cuckbait is the FGO staple.
mihomo and kurocent are both faces on the same coin. Both chinese CEOs are multi millionaries extracting money from their cult like player base.
>>1649488Probably because the in-game devil is extremely fuckable
>>1649312nothing, just retards spouting the same shit since day1 no matter what the devs docase in point >>1649317
>>1649507does it have male characters in the gacha then?
>>1649513maybe 6 of themNow anwer my question retard, when was the last one released?
>>1649516>maybe 6 of themThen why did you say there's "nothing" wrong with it you fucking pos?>when was the last one released?Who gives a shit. Fuck off.
>>1649517Predicatble sperg response, keep seething
>>1649516Why are you trying to downplay the fact that BD2 is a mixed toilet gacha? Hell its even worse in that game where almost more than half of the playable girls are either use goods or want to fuck other men, some of them even playable. The playboy of the cast is easily the biggest exemple of that.
>>1649501Isn't she a confirmed dyke, though?
Cuck Dust 2 is just another mixed toilet that completely flopped so they switched to releasing sexy females to survive. I can't imagine being a sunken cost cuck who still plays that game when there are far better waifu games in the market.
>>1649523its still funny seeing you repeat the same shit
>>1649528No. Stop believing schizos. The game gets called>gathering wivesfor a reason. There was a single leak that said her and another character were meant to form a team mechanically well as in being meta. There was zero indication of yuritranny shit. He's not even a reliable leaker.
>>1649532You know you cant deny what I said.There's a bunny yandere who straight up fails in love with the guy at first sight. Also the witch girl is consistently shipbaited with the guy as well. And if that's not enough, the guy fucks the alt of the main girl in a different timeline. Also has a pseudo harem of idols in another.And that's just one guy. The game also has blatant used goods like that foxwoman (lets just cut the bs she's a prostitute) fucking another guy during her burst animation. And some other big titied sorceress having a previous master.This shit is way more cucked than Genshin.
>>1649532Stop replying to the resident schizo
>>1649532You've still yet to refute anything, fag.
>>1649312literal cuck game, picrel the latest bull they added, (you) get to watch
>>1649580Context?
>>1649312Shipshit and the MC gets to watch. Last I heard, they're declining so they're adding (you) pandering for the waifubucks but set it in a parallel universe so they can continue doing their shipshit.
>>1649410They believe computers are solely for working and have no other purpose.
context?
>>1649531i look like this.
>>1649528Yes, the game keeps flexing her relationship with phoebe while you watch in silence. Don't fall for the muh gathering wives xeddit meme, you literally ditch your "harem" in the next patch.
>>1649621Lets see some screenshots
>>1649622He doesn't play the game kek
It's no wonder that the gachabraintard never played any classic JRPG.
>>1649599>set it in a parallel universe so they can continue doing their shipshitThey're actually attempting to pull off what mihomo did with Honkai's Captain, holy shit.
>>1649650From what I remember Theresa and RF were always pretty for (you) even in other appearances. This just feels like they want their cake and eat it to.
>>1649621They're build for each other
>>1649650>Honkai's CaptainThis shit was how I learned what "hoyo humiliation ritual" meant.
>>1649665but Zani is Carlotta's bodyguard? i mean, if you're going to try to fool these schizo, it would be best to link her to Carlotta.
>because you played JRPGs, now you must become a cuckお断りします
>>1649650I didn't mind it at the time but in hindsight the Captain should've been an actual character and Kiana for (You). I mean look at the current state of the game lol. I regret wasting so much time in that and Genshit, never again.
>>1649619Hey...
>>1649679>Captain should've been an actual characterIf he'd been one, he'll just end up like ToF's MC, A.K.A. end up jobbing and getting humiliated at the end of important battles in story mode in order to make the playable Valks and the antagonists shine. He won't look like a protagonist of the story at all.
What exactly IS it that's convinced so many chink companies to make their MC's completely useless jobbers? I understand Mihomo is just plain retarded, but there are others that just don't seem to want their players to be represented positively at all.
>>1649682True I guess it would've been inevitable considering the company. In a perfect world HI3 would've been uncensored with a harem ML theme.Currently I'm waiting for Korea to make something like it, and I'm anticipating it as much as an open world ML gacha. Gachas on a smaller scale can also have a lot of potential. When will the time come? Who knows. From who? Korean? Japan?What I'm excited about the most right now is the release of Magicami Offline supposedly coming next month.
>>1649621> zani and phoebe barely interact>a faggot who clearly doesn't play the game
>>1649687every single phone manufacturers copied the stupid iphone notch after it was introduced just because Apple did itand mihoyo is the apple of gacha industry
>>1649687To spite the clearly male playerbase, and to make the playable characters (allies/villains) look cool and worth the money. ToF failed the second objective so hard to the point of rushing a crappy ML themed dorm system for a small set of waifus and making the recent playable girls in story be a bit sweeter to the MC instead of being the usually bland/unlikeable shipbait cunts they are, lmaooo
>>1649691HI3 never really blew up in Japan OR Korea, so I wouldn't count on them to make anything like it if they hadn't already. Their love of action RPGs clearly didn't carry over to gachas.If anything I'm surprised no one's working on a Nikke clone. That gameplay looks easy to replicate (and improve) in 3d; throw in whatever the fuck Snowbreak does with the dorms or BD2 with the cafe and you've pretty much got the perfect waifu game
>>1649714>I'm surprised no one's working on a Nikke clonei remember seeing a webm of spas-12 in GFL2 with nikke's gameplay, jiggle and all. looked like a mini-game or something
mihoyo is the most successful gacha company of all time and none of their games are EOSing any time soon. i'm very, very sorry to break that to some of you, but if from today on ZZZ, HSR, and Genshin didn't make a single penny they could still afford to keep the lights on for the next 10 years
What's the word on Promilia and Endfield? Is there any hope that either of them will have sexy or even lewd designs or is it basically fucking over?
Today, Kuro, Hypergryph, MICA, and Infold announced their donation plan for the 2025 Tibet earthquake victims. Meanwhile, our beloved Mihoyo remains silent on this matter.
>>1649726what a weird thing to say
>>1649730lol, lmao even
>>1649730Both have spats.
>>1649734Haven't you got the memo yet, anon?Mihoyo is literally running on pennies now
>>1649730>Is there any hope that either of them will have sexy or even lewd designshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RUos52bZBkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKmR8bFvRQoOn the other hand I don't have any hope for Promilia, that game seems even more safe than Endfield.
>>1649742But surely the devs must be sensitive to the fact that so much of the hype around Promilia is due to AL's legacy as being one of the biggest coomer gachas around. Would they really risk alienating their core audience with a completely safe Genshin clone?
>>1649752>Would they really risk alienating their core audiencethey already did by not making azur lane 2 instead of spatsmillia potato loli-shin impact
>>1649730Promilia maybe, Endfield absolutely not.
>>1649730>Arknigger >sexy or lew designs
Week one spendan reportDare i say, wuwon?
>>1649759>GI ZZZ HSR all in top 20mihoyo... won!
>>1649755>Promilia maybe, Endfield absolutely not.Endfield's already blowing Promilia out of the water in terms of fanservice. Granted it's an omnipandering gacha but still, for characters that are literally designed for the fanservice they don't skimp on that part. Unlike Spatsmillia lol
>>1649766Can't believe manjuu got cucked by hypergryph in their own game...not once, but TWICE
>>1649433>i thought PSO2:NGS was a dead game but it is above Infinity Nikki, or both are actually dead.Japs don't play dress up games.
>>1649766> it has good fanservice> it's an arknights, girls get fucked by NPCs (not for you)>there's no way I'm paying for that shit.
>>1649770that statistic is from mobiles.retarded
>Statistics I don't like are bogus.Last I heard people were saying that Eastern players mostly play on mobile while Western players on PCs, and Jap players love both their phones and Onions consoles but whatever, if it makes Nikki look bad then we should just ignore all those popular statistics I guess
https://search.bilibili.com/live?vt=03655093&keyword=%E6%98%9F%E5%A1%94%E6%97%85%E4%BA%BAPeople are streaming Stella Sora. Reminds me of classic RPG
it reminds me of a game that lost...
>>1649781guardian tales is still up and running, albeit half dead
>>1649779look, i don't even know what you're talking about. i was just correcting because the guy above was mentioning consoles, but let's check Nikki's statistics for the United States. Nikki is on page 14 of the best sellers. Do you know what position that is? it's position 300+...JP statistics are used on consoles because they are the ones who spend the most on console gachaslop, if not even the Japanese like that shit then NIKKI is a failure because supposedly their revenue is higher on console but neither in JP nor in the USA does it have good position.
>>1649734Given how awesome Mihoyo is, they should be able to donate more than NetEase, a dying company.
>>1649714>If anything I'm surprised no one's working on a Nikke clone.>making another braindead cover shooterNo one can replicate the perfect game that was Freedom Fighters. Snowbreak tried but abandoned it once you can tank everything outside of weekly Time Attack Bosses.
>>1649734The one from Mica is dated 2023, you sure you picked the correct post?
>>1649722Recent KR magazine interview Yuzhong did hinted that he wants his first real collab for GFL2 to be Nikke. He praised Stellar Blade and followed with saying he wanted to collab with an anime girl gun game.
>>1649772Good thing you don't need to pay at all on arknights, unless it's an irl event/Collab stuff. Hopefully they don't pull gfl2 move and changed their monetization for the worse.
>for the worsegod i hate newfags so much
>>1649796>For the worseSuch as? The only other worst gacha sytem than Arknights is FGO.
I've learned today that people will lose their minds over censorship if a single scrap of fabric over a female character's booba textures is lengthened by so much as a pixel. This is unironically one of the most schizo generals on this website. I'm not saying that as a bad thing, it's just an observation.
>Defending censorshipRetard
>>1649822I'm referring to the whole monetization which also include skins etc. For example you can get premium currency from clearing stages for the first time then you can choose to convert it to gacha currency or use it directly to buy 99% of the skin even the "premium" ones. Only skins from irl collab (KFC) are cash only. I just wish they will keep the skin monetization because GFL2 ditched their GFL skin monetization which a bit similar to AK.>The only other worst gacha sytem than Arknights is FGOlol no. There's this game called Alice Gear Aegis. It have 50 tickets limit, ticket can expire and it's pity system only works if you roll using cash currency, and even then the rate boost are capped at 20% for rate up unit (which can have up to 3 at once).
>>1649840GFL1 skin monetization is dogshit, fuck are you talking about? GF2 using Hoyo gacha system is a fucking improvement over GF1 skin gacha. Just admit you want to collect all characters max upgrade for free.
>>1649766>Endfield's already blowing Promilia out of the water in terms of fanserviceAre you talking about that webm? Becwuse if that's all then it doesn't at all.
>>1649840Nice try putting a no name fanza shit as your strawman nigger. Arknots are so fucking delusional it's hilarious.
>>1649730Endfield will never have fanservice designs, even that mild pink haired girl they showed already had the fanbase rioting. Women completely control that game.We don't know anything about Promilia, what we heard from leaks is that Manjuu had lots of internal fights due to not knowing the direction to take the game, many employees got replaced and there's even an obedience test for employees now, likely because of all the conflict. Supposedly the game might be 16+ now according to some ex-ubisoft dude who played the internal beta.
>>1649854>Are you talking about that webm? Becwuse if that's all then it doesn't at all.Exactly thats my point, because Promilia's fanservice is way worse from what they have shown.
A Tieba poster used a tool to collect IDs of the Manjuu water army on Bilibili. Among the 80 collected IDs, they found an interesting pattern: 16 IDs started with the digits 3456. This led them to suspect that these accounts might have been registered in bulk by a social management entity.Interestingly, the official account of AL dev also started with 3456, potentially hinting at a relationship with the aforementioned water army.Last year, there was a similar issue with IDs starting with 3461. This adds to the Tieba poster's suspicion that there is a pattern of bulk registration of accounts.https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9400652232
>>1649862Not at all. Show me the loli wearing a bodysuit in Endfield, I'm waiting.
>>1649876Show me the loli wearing a bodysuit in Spatsmillia, I'm waiting.My point still stands, Endfield's fanservice is basically nothing compared to AL or GF but it's still somehow way better than AP. Hope you like another Genshin with potato-shaped lolis though
>>1649881Kill yourself pedofag.
>>1649871>water armyWhat's that now
>>1649885https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_water_army
Short review of Wangyue tech test- **Main Storyline and Characters**: - The OP mentions that the game directly locks the female protagonist. - They note that the main storyline and side quests do not directly involve the male protagonist but finish the animated picture (https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1bar6YBEBz/), with the visual corner suspected to be the male protagonist. - The OP highlights that the plot performance is impressive, and the female character's clothes design is flattering.- **Gameplay Mechanics**: - The combat feel is described as still okay, with some characters being more comfortable to play. - The OP mentions that the big world gameplay has sewn up the tears of the kingdom, and the experience is almost the same as adding Palu and Extreme Hands to the Abnormal Ring Base. - However, they point out that the game's optimization in big cities is not good, with performance issues causing the game to be stuck between 20 and 30 percent.- **Overall Impressions**: - The OP feels that the protagonist is not as good as the NPC mobs. - They express discomfort with the two-dimensional canned painting style. - The OP concludes that while there are some positive aspects, there are also areas that need improvement, and further investigation is needed to uncover any potential issues.https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9401494749
>>1649888So like, they're manjuu paid shills? What did they do anyway?
>>1649891> oh, I forgot to mention that in the staff list at the back, three people came out to speak.As a result, 2 Jimei appearedDOOOOOAAAA
>>1649881>Show me the loli wearing a bodysuit in Spatsmillia, I'm waiting.What a weird hill to die on.
>>1649891this will flop harder than Nikki
>>1649896in english?
>>1649899>What a weird hill to die on.And you posted that one loli character who had her 3D model already censored by manjuu before the game even came out.
>>1649910Proof for this, Sigil/reddi_4ch2?
https://search.bilibili.com/live?keyword=%E6%9C%9B%E6%9C%88wangyue tech test streamfunny how NGA said this game has better game play than expected, although the models and optimization are bad
>>1649896如果说原神阻断了开放二游的大门,鸣潮就是彻底封住了开放二游的窗户
>>1649910?She's exactly the same as she was presented. Don't tell me you're already moving the goalpost?
>>1649924>She's exactly the same as she was presented.She wasn't, you haven't seen her 3d model that they showed off at bili world.
>>1649930post it to see the difference
NTE won the 2024 TapTap Most Anticipated Game Award
>>1649918All these games trying to pander to women while having super high pc requirements. There are going to be so many dead gacha games this and next year.
>>1649935Kinda hypocritical they only show girls in markieting while having almost just as much males in the game.
>>1649938that's how mixed toilets attract cucks to play their game
>>1649938you will fund the game for homos and fujos and you will like it
>>1649936it is because they hire Jimei to fill the gender quota that these companies have.what Jimei does is obviously try to make games that also include the tastes of female players but without realizing that it is in a two-dimensional space where the target audience are not female players, the original comment on Tieba mentions it, is like guilinchao.
>>1649938KING
>>1649931>post it to see the differenceI don't have them but they're on the AP Discord I've seen em there.
>>1649941Not touching that garbage. Its made by the TOF devs so fuck that. Not even interested in Ananta either. Only slightly looking forward to AP.
>>1649943> trash modeling> trash optimization> with male characterseasy skip
>>1649944post that shit and stop making you faggot excuses
>>1649935Do people not know that these devs made ToF? There are too many red flags around this game.
>>1649943i can get the hype with mugen/ananta even if i'm not that interested but nte and whatever that new chink game feel fabricated as shit especially with all the drama and hotta's track record.
>>1649943You can already feel like this furry faggot will probably the only one in the roster. Because the game will start spamming female characters when the devs see the game isnt doing that well. Kinda like ZZZ.
>>1649759Lads sisters? Where is our game?
>>1649899my narrative....
>>1649957random fanart = ingame model
>>1649935Gonna be kind of awkward if it gets it's ass beat by Ananta now
>>1649687Depends on what would classify as jobbing. They needed to sell characters and the easiest, laziest way to do that is by making said characters strong and cool in the story. This doesn't only apply on male characters but also waifus who somehow always protect the MC instead of the other way around. This is always the case in games with faceless MCs for example Dokuta in Arknights or Dante in Limbus who are always protected instead of doing the protecting.
>>1649949
>>1649976no wonder azur promilia had so many internal conflicts, they clearly had a ton of feminist women in the team.wonder who won the conflict in the end.
>>1649954ZZZ started off really strong in 1.0 then fell off like a rock despite releasing nothing but female banners.
>>1649981>strong in 1.0only because of Hoyo brand namethen people realized Hoyo isnt omnipotent
>>1649982I'm saying gender ratio had nothing to do with ZZZ's decline. Especially considering the sharpest decline was around Jane Doe's banner.
What will 2025 look like for Mihoyo?
>>1649983The game tried to market itself as this more coomer-friendly/"hip" game but once you actually get into the game it is just more of your normally hoyo prudishness.Why would coomers care for watered down shit when they can go elsewhere and get what they want?
>>1649985It died when they censored it before release.
>>1649986Nope, ZZZ launch made Mihoyo shitton of money. People didn't care.>>1649985It is more coomer friendly, but not to the point of being trashy. Ellen for example is very popular despite being covered up.
>>1649987>ZZZ launch made Mihoyo shitton of money.Mihoyo made the same amount of money as they did the previous month before ZZZ even released.
>>1649988It made 25 million just in 5 days. In an environment where it had to directly compete against Wuwa and other Hoyo games.
>>1649990Wuwa and ZZZ are completely different genres of game. Why are you comparing an open world game to a "arena" fighter.>other hoyo gameslmao
>>1649855>no name fanzalmao it's published by Colopl on phone first you retard. The PC client are released later and locked to DMM, not Fanza. At least get your fact right before shitposting.
>>1649992Are you retarded? Products compete with each other the more overlap exists. That means even between games of different genres competition still exists to some extend. Marvel Rivals, (a TPS), directly sucked players from Overwatch (a FPS) and Deadlock (a TPS MOBA). When Star Rail (Turn based RPG) released, Genshin numbers (Open world action RPG) dropped by a bit. PoE2 releasaed (ARPG) and player interest in other games dropped. ZZZ and Wuwa have some noticable overlaps, hence the intense rivalry.
>>1649854Here bro, spatsmilia could never.
>>1649998>Marvel Rivals, (a TPS), directly sucked players from Overwatch (a FPS)....yes anon, a hero shooter directly competes with another hero shooter.
>>1650014Oh so you can tell the similarities between Overwatch and Marvel Rivals (hero shooters despite being TPS vs FPS), but not ZZZ and Wuwa (anime action gacha with parry mechanics despite being arena vs open world). Interesting.
>To all the seething schizos in this threadWhy aren't you playing Wuthering Waves? It's slowly taking over the gacha space with actual QoL improvements, best graphics on the market, for (You) pandering, improved story and actually reinvest it's revenue back into the game. Look around, all 3 mihomo games are sinking ships and all 3 does the bare minimum every patch. You must be a HUGE hoyo slurper to not play the best gacha on the market right now.>Kuro just copies!And makes it better. WuWa is a literal improvement in everything people despise about genshit. >Muh revenue!Solon himself announced they game has been doing extremely well revenue wise and has been a massive success with PS5 launch. Not to mention Kuro is backed by Tencent now. Keep coping with meme charts.>I hate open world!WuWa has always been combat first. The combat, animations and gameplay is the best in the gacha market right now.So why are you hoyoshills afraid of change? It's time to jump off the sinking ship. What's your excuse, anon?
>>1650021Thank you for your input, Kuro marketing department, very cool
>>1650024Literally me.
>>1650021It's a sloppily-designed game in general. Good character models, but the open world puzzles and treasure placements are very subpar with no thought put into it. If you told AI to generate a bunch of puzzles and scatter them all over the world randomly, that would be Wuwa. 1.x story also drove people away and once you got off the wrong foot with the story there's no coming back.
>>1649992look, i don't like ZZZ or Wuthering Waves, but any brainless person can notice that they compete, they ultimately have the same peaks in the application stores but ZZZ has a banner twice as expensive that Wuthering Waves, now if you transfer the Wuthering Waves whales that they load money on a banner that is twice more cheap as ZZZ while they get the same peaks on banners, you can look that without the existence of that game mihomo would have been endorsed all that money.another way in which wuthering waves hurts mihomo is by showing how obsolete their games are. Even if those players don't endorse kurogames, it means they will be less sure of paying for an M6E6 character because they were previously convinced that mihomo ZZZ was the top of technology and innovation
>>1650027>sauce: my ass
> the story there's no coming backthere are many comparative videos between wuthering waves and genshin impact that are the most viewed on bilibili and YouTube, especially one of mauvika's motorcycle vs rinascita's wings, if you think that this does not affect the paid perception of the normie player who is their main payer, you must be a fucking retard
>>1650024kek
>>1650024>Thank you for your input, Kuro marketing department, very coolmihomo marketing department, is most very cool 3.4 patch (down), 4.8 patch (down), i can't wait to see the next event of the true protagonist of genshin
Kuro's big mistake was starting their game with wuxiaslop. Mihoyo was smart enough to do it as their second nation.
> same VAZZZ is cooked
>>1650050I think its better to get the shittiest region (CN) out of the game first
>>1650050Insisting on chink shilling is the main reason Wuwa isn't as big as it was supposed to be. Launch period is literally the most important period of any gacha (or any live-service, really) and they fumbled it with shit story. Funnily enough chapter 5 and 6 were great, but many normalfags have quit the game before then. Genshin on the other hand started off really strong with Mondstadt and managed to ease off their players into Liyue chink shilling. If Genshin started in Liyue it would have flopped.
>>1650059yes, but at the end they screwed up too because they introduced wormmeru and they had to abuse the female characters from the 1.X and 2.X era so much that they are no longer resold.
>>1650050If it was average chinkshill wuxiaslop it wouldn't be as bad as 3 hours barrage of technical terms about loong, mangosteen and candies, this is where 90% of players, including myself, dropped the game glad I came back couple of days late and kept playing until 2.0
>>1650061Does it matter when they've already managed to squeeze billions of dollars and still consistently placing top 5 in the anime gacha genre? Genshin is almost 5 years old now. Most gachas couldn't even last 3 years. Even moreso if they fumbled their launch.
>>1650024I look like this and do this
>>1650050Liyue isn't even that bad compared to space china.
Even /vmg/ schizos are now shilling wuwa. Looks like Kuro games and wuwa became a massive success huh?
>>1650066but apparently it is not useful for them to maintain their nuclear reactor because they have reduced the money they give to content creators at CN, they reduced marketing and they are having a restructuring of the company like NEXON, which indicates that they are not happy with the current numbers
>>1650069It's ranjesh hours.
>>1650070Because ZZZ bombed. Mihoyo expected ZZZ to be their next "hard carry but their refusal to listen to beta testers who shat on TV for months had finally backfired. The gacha industry is also on a downward trend with weaker purchasing power but more competitors. Now all they can do is try fixing ZZZ while laying low until their Animal Crossing gacha is ready for launch.
>>1650052That free fucker is already old news, and Miyabi carried that patch anyway
>>1650024I wonder how much that guy cost them in terms of players
>>1650073yes, ultimately ZZZ was one of the causes but for me the biggest flop was the massive loss of Genshin Impact.the company's liabilities not only increase with ZZZ, but with industrialization projects such as its nuclear plant, but it turns out that ZZZ did not become an asset and Genshin Impact stopped being an asset, quick conclusion, they accelerated their industrialization but slowed down the profit so it is not at the pace of its current industrialization and they have to cut money somewhere, it does not surprise me that there is a suspicion that they privately sold shares to Tencent, that is because Tencent has copyrights on the hoyomix song "La Vaguelette".
>>1650069I mean even nips show their support for wuwa now >>1649391 >>1649395Surely kuro didnt pay them to shill it right?
>>1650013kek
Final Results of TapTap Game Awards 2024!
>>1650088zzz won...
