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Your source of the juiciest dramas about gacha games. Anything goes---your sentiment about the gacha industry, schizo takes, conspiracy theories, MTL screenshots from obscure Chinese forums, or just random gacha related topics that don't fit in a specific general.
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ZZZ and McDonald's advertised that there were 400k limited edition items available, which could only be obtained by purchasing food.
However, they frequently claimed that these items were sold out.
Nevertheless, Chinese gamers discovered that McDonald's was clearing out ZZZ's items, and they could buy a complete set for 15 CNY (approximately 2 USD) without any conditions.
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First for Epic Seven
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Wuwa, Snowbreak and Azur Lane all got busted using AI art.
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>>1661388
>Epic seven
I thought this gachage are dead?
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[SAD NEWS] Although Mihoyo's affiliated doxxing group 仙家军 has been actively arrested by Sichuan police, new victims continue to emerge.
This time, it was Wuwa's CC
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>>1661391
No they didn't. That tool is laughably bad. I once took a picture of a cup and it told me it was like 70% AI.
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Why are chinese people so weird
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Snowbroke is still broken
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>>1661397
sovl
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>>1661397
Why is this a thing? Who even wants this?
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People are happy with drip marking of new ZZZ furry girl
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>>1661382
>https://poal.me/wunozc
https://poal.me/wunozc
>https://poal.me/wunozc
https://poal.me/wunozc
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>>1661403
Nice to see. Furries also deserve to sit at ZZZ's table.
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>>1661403
In the seas of generic anime girls, she is like an oasis.
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https://tiebac.baidu.com/p/9438880926

People in the Genshin Impact Insider bar are all getting doxxed.
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Which one did it better?
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Reminder to take a bath today
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>>1661391
>get mad about AI doing a bad job so you use AI to detect AI
Did these people consider their AI AI detector might also be bad at its job?
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>one week since THErta banner
What went so wrong for HSR?
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azur promilia is not a real game
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>>1661388
STUPID rabi
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>>1661434
Nobody here is real.
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>>1661397
Frito blasting off again!
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>>1661437
this thread isn't real
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>>1661434
reminder in order to get the license your game must be at least 75% completed
why is azur promilia stuck in dev hell for whole year
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>>1661406
The lack of pitchads is really concerning
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>>1661440
they had to scrap all the guys
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>>1661434
their license expires on the 25th and still no sign that they have renewed it, if the license expires before they extend it they will have to reapply for the license from the beginning
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>>1661448
Why apply for the license a year ago if the game's not even coming out for like another 2 years?
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>>1661451
because the game was already completed before they changed direction
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>>1661391
idk about phoebe but lumi's splash art gave me strong novelAI vibes indeed
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How for (You) is ZZZ? Any official ships?
Thinking of picking another gacha up
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>>1661472
>How for (You) is ZZZ?
Depends on how much you're willing to ignore and put up with. At best it can be considered one in the absolute loosest sense. It's a Hoyo game. They don't do for (You) without a dozen clauses.
>Any official ships?
Yes.
>Thinking of picking another gacha up
Just wait for Ananta.
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>>1661472
Play wuwa saar better game saar
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>>1661451
Because the version with males in it was 75% complete. Now they have to rework it from scratch with no males.
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>>1661472
>How for (You) is [literally any hoyo gacha]?
Do you even have to ask?
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Wuwa Roccia is the best Day 1 revenue in recent times on Game-i for JP iOS. Compared to previous ones, it's an upward trend.
>Roccia: 97,1M Yen
>Carlotta: 85,2M Yen
>Camellya: 72,5M Yen
>Shorekeeper: 40,4M Yen
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>>1661490
Probably Jinhsi is contributing massively too
Changli is gonna hard carry Brant's patch as well
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>>1661490
confirmed, the Japanese are sick lolicons and there is nothing in the world that will make me change my mind
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>>1661491
Who knows, not 100% sure actually. For example, Yinlin+Yao rerun Day 1 was like 13M Yen, so reruns don't necessarily do that well.
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>>1661494
Because they are the least popular chars imo
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>>1661490
>>1661493
>japanese
No need to go that far.
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>>1661499
based
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>>1661499
lolichads based ofc nobody likes old hag who look over 18 years old
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>>1661490
I don't blame them, Roccia is hot as fuck.
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>>1661494
A lot of people pulled for Yinlin the first time, and Yao was a free character so even less people didn't have him
Good characters but a lot of the playerbase has them so their reruns will always be low
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>>1661403
zzz continues to be the best gacha in the market
>inb4 screeching from chink paggots who like generic safe horny vtumor bitches
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>>1661490
But people keep telling me this game is dying? Did they lie to me? On the internet?
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>>1661536
Only retards say that
It doesn't make hoyo levels of revenue but it has settled on the market

The problem will come for the new gachas of this year
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>>1661532
>>inb4 screeching from chink paggots who like generic safe horny vtumor bitches
But that describes ZZZ perfectly.
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>>1661440
>why is azur promilia stuck in dev hell for whole year
Because when they released the trailer they had thousands of ch**ks scream at them to make the game ML, which in turn led to severe internal conflicts at Manjuu and many of the game's writers and artists leaving.

I'm guessing it'll be an open world ML game now but who knows.
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>>1661562
sauce: my ass
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>>1661440
>Make a cutesy farming pokemon game targeted towards men and women, with playable male characters in it
>Register for a license, everything is going well
>Azur Lane players discover the existence of those male characters
>Riot
>Muh betrayal
>Muh mixed toilet
>Muh dead game dead company
>OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT
>Delete all males
>Those are just NPCs guyyyyss
>Game went from 75% finished to 20% finished
>Stuck in development hell
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>>1661562
Only artist that is known to have left Manjuu in the past year was for seemingly unrelated matters to AP.
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>>1661576
Seeing the absolute state of this shitlhole still gaggling on mihoyo's cock I think they're overreacting.
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>>1661576
>Those are just NPCs guyyyyss
>posts the most NPC looking motherfucker imaginable
what did anon mean by this?
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>>1661576
I got GBF vibe from AP
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AP is a mistake
AL is still king
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>>1661588
I agree that they should've pushed through with mixed toilet Azur Promilia instead of chickening out. Since Ananta and Endfield (and NTE I guess...) will also release within this year, their opportunity to succeed with a lower-budget game is narrowing by the day.
>>1661591
Said NPC (that bull guy) actually went viral a while back with women lusting all over him.
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>>1661595
>pretending to lust after an old NPC as a joke
not the first time that happened
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>>1661598
>Pretending
Reddit and Twitter have been complaining about Mihoyo male 3D models since like four years ago. To have real muscles on a male is a miracle to them.
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>>1661599
Reddit and Twitter aren't real
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>>1661601
Where else can we get the internet opinion of women and gays?
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>>1661602
About video games? Nowhere, women and gays don't play video games
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He has a point
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>>1661429
Honestly, I have seen all gacha games dropping from the top spots when a new character releases fairly quickly lately
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>>1661595
no one cares about women
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>>1661602
They don't play, it's that simple, the only thing that parasitic public does is kidnap the characters to make homo headcannons, turning the communities into chaos, that's why hole games are so chaotic.

Just look at Genshin Impact, once he stopped doing stupid things homo doesn't even have community scandals anymore, since he was the most committed in the past to those crazy, now HSR that was the most once calm now became chaotic and pessimistic with 3.0
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>>1661576
companies should stop listening to chingchongs and paggots who screech about male characters and just release their games
crying about males is peak tranny behavior
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>>1661613
Nobody wants to share communities with people of the same ilk from r/wuwahusbandos and r/HSRhusbados, it's that easy
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>>1661613
Trannies screech about female characters thoughbeit.
Also, I don't want to share a community with fags and women.
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>>1661611
The thing is, Manjuu already started developing Azur Promilia with males in it (and no, I don't buy their excuses/lies), and the gameplay seemed to appeal to women.

In game development, the budget is king.
ZZZ's launch was smooth because Mihoyo could afford top-tier talent and marketing.
Wuwa had a rocky start because Kuro was a small company making their first open-world game. In the end, they didn't reach their target, and Tencent took over the majority stake.
Endfield beta looks really gorgeous. From the 3D models to gestures to cutscenes, you can tell they spent tons of money on it. Their marketing budget will probably exceed other games, including Ananta.
Ananta is NetEase's next big thing, their golden child, their masterpiece set to revolutionize gacha. Anime GTA. Ambitious as hell.

The big question is, does Manjuu have enough money left to rework AP and still rival the aforementioned companies in terms of marketing budget? Aiming for B-tier revenue with a game as big as AP won't be feasible either.
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>>1661617
>>1661621
you are both equally pathetic, ever realize that?
normal gamers like us just want to play games and not be associated with either of you fucking losers obsessed with bitching endlessly about male or female characters kek
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>>1661624
You start so good with that first block of text, just to shit in your own mouth in the next one...
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>>1661628
>normal
>on 4chan
Pick one.
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>>1661624
AFAIK AP's development started in 2019, around Genshin's release thats why it's completed enough to apply for license and be able to release a full fledged gameplay trailer
Now their old staffs left due to conflict in vision and the remaining cant keep up with remaking the story.
Everyone can see how they are trying to hire new staffs but Manjuu cant pay as high as other Shanghai companies. And now AP is losing its best timing to release the game.
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>>1661628
>normal gamers like us
Things normal gamers never say.
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>>1661628
Why are you here of all places if you are claiming to be a normalfag?
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>>1661635
this thread was crossposted a few times in hoyoslop generals
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>>1661631
>AP is losing its best timing to release the game.
This. They're racing against time. They need to announce a beta date as soon as possible.
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>>1661569
There are a bunch of leaks from back when AP was first revealed. I can't find it but one leak had the guy correctly predict what AP would show at Bilibili world, he said that a bunch of writers and artists quit due to the controversy, that all of Manjuu's projects were now harems, and that Bilibili was disappointed at how the AL CN anniversary went because of all the AP drama that happened.
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>>1661613
I believe it's far less a problem of men being merely existent and more one of what crowds they attract. Shippers, gays and fujos are all nasty and loud, annoying communities at large. If I remember right the main complaint from the chinks when their "mixed toilet" stuff started kicking off more was that those kinds of games simply cause too much exhausting drama before it twisted into what it is now.
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>>1661615
Give me news, Ananta bastards
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>>1661628
>normal gamers like us
This is ML schizo falseflagging to make him and his Chinese buddies look less bad
Not even "normal gamers" want to spend on homo banners, back to the drawing board with that shitpost, do better.
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>>1661648
>Shippers, gays and fujos are all nasty and loud
This is the real problem and they have become even more obnoxious after Genshin invited more of their kind into gacha. Just look at what Granblue was like before and after Genshin and it's like night and day difference. Especially the last homo summer and major retcons.
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>>1661651
They are taking their time
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>>1661655
I miss back in school when dumb fujos and such would put anime or BL on those clear white bookbinder things and get bullied for it. Taught them to do that shit quietly. Younger fujos are more annoying than them because they're not getting bullied and taught to stick to their own peacefully.
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>>1661628
Don't put me in the same bag as that garbage, PGR was a mixed game too but it was never as contaminated with shit as hi3rd even though Honkai was only waifu but did a lot of homosexual shit which attracted this specific group of faggots, with community fights and shitty scandals, any game that mixes with that garbage is destined to have a shitty community.
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>>1661628
>normal gamers
I think normal gamers hate ship and homo shit more than anyone else, precisely because they are normal people and homosexuality/gender dysphoria is a mental illness that breaks into their abnormal life even in video games, that's why they voted for Trump.
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>>1661656
I'm in a gacha drought and they're starving me
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>>1661628
Wow you really kicked the hornet's nest with that one. As much as people screech and complain about homobanners, only China is truly autistic when it comes to gender separation. That's why Snowbreak is far more popular in China than global while Hoyo games are still at the top everywhere. Game developers are now split in two camps, and even though the trend is definitely shifting towards waifupandering, they're still hesitant to fully dip into it. Even Ananta is rumored to have 2-3 more unrevealed males.
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>>1661671
The only people who complain about the lack of male banners are loud retards on twitter or reddit. Which are mostly women, and some men who think just blindly agreeing with the girls will get him some pussy. Who then proceed to never turn out when a male goes on banner.
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>>1661674
Players are bound to complain when the game does not cater to them. Not only women, but also lolifags would complain about lack of lolis, haggots would complain about lack of hags, even to specific ones like "when are you gonna release maids?" It's just normal in mixed toilet games. But complaining about the lack of something doesn't always mean they want to play games with only that thing. As much as I like timid teenage waifu who can get violent at times, I don't want to play gachas with only them in it.
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>>1661671
if you notice that hoyogames peak when there is waifu pandering and there is always an absurd drop when they make homo concessions?

normal players don't have problems with male characters it's a fact, normal players have problems when hoyo does homo shit with male characters because homo = abnormal, and they are not stupid, they realize it and when they realize it, HSR 3.0 flops more than Yappconny 2.0 for example

The fall of the hoyo games occurs on the side of the normal players who were invited in the covid but they were expelled when they made homo concessions and they returned to their games normalflags
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>>1661667
Cant wait to do racing with my bros
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>>1661676

>monopoly grows (adult)
>roblox grows (kids
>royal match grows (teeneger)
normal players don't play their games anymore
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>>1661676
Men spending more on gacha is nothing surprising. Men also play more video games. But personally I prefer games with males in it. Male characters make the settings richer and more believable than good ol' waifu gacha trope of an all-female military for example.
But why are you surprised Hoyo games are gay when Genshin literally launched with VENTI???
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>>1661682
genshin was release with the covid, any shit they had placed would have had the same effect, wuwa was release with jiyan for example
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>>1661682
I doesn't matter to me if males do or don't exist in the game, I just want to writers to write somewhat decently and not fill their game full off half-baked shipbait.
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>>1661682
every straight male loves fucking asstolfo back then
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>>1661684
>>1661685
>>1661686
Yeah but would anybody with a brain sees Hoyo releasing Venti, Childe, Zhongli, and Albedo within four months and not be alerted? I think you guys ignored the red flag.
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>>1661686
Because Astolfo was cool and acted like a bro, shame his character got raped by doujins paiting him as the NTR man.
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>>1661676
DNF also took away the majority of straight people (DNF doesn't use its male classes to create homo shit) and DNF has like 98% male audience
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>>1661687
the peak of genshin impact is this character
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>>1661624
>ZZZ's launch was smooth
...someone forgot ZZZ ran even worse than Wuwa on phones or you couldn't even able to install it? Not to mention the ridiculous 100GB SSD sizes it needed to unpack and they only fixed it patches later with an ingame file manager to delete old unused stuff. ZZZ's launch wasn't smooth at all.
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>>1661687
In hind-sight, sure.
Except back then I could flirt with Jean among other things so I was more inclined to ignore it, plus coming from FGO males were just a thing that just gave me more time to save.
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If you do normal things you will not have problems whether there are men or women in your game, if you do abnormal things like homo ships it is completely normal for normalflag to run away in terror
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>>1661696
>>1661691
People are also more tolerant when it comes to fighting games and old IPs. For example nobody batted an eye with a game with 90% male cast and fujos drawing them buttfucking each other because people just... don't care and don't search for these things.
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>>1661694
ZZZ launch only had performance issues. Wuwa launch had performance issues, machine translation issue, doxxing Japanese whales issue, endless glitches to the point of music being disabled for days. This coming from someone who played both day 1.
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>>1661687
The game also had Mona, Keqing, Ganyu, Hu Tao and so on. You could ignore the males. Then Sumeru came around and Hoyo started writing blatant fujo fetish fuel.
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>>1661699

stop being mentally ill, that shit is simply uncomfortable for any normal person and it is not intolerance, they will not go to 4chan or reddit to say what things bother them, they simply go away in silence, the silent fall from GI once had a monopoly around the world and he lost it because he was stupid, it was because of sumeru.
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>>1661701
>>1661702
You're right about launch females being a good distraction from the homo stuff but Alhaitham and Kaveh were literally less gay than Diluc and Kaeya who were already there since launch. Mihoyo account even retweeted a BL fanart of them. Oldfags remember.
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The fact that many people did jump ship to HSR after GI sumeru disaster really speaks for itself
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>>1661700
...so ZZZ launch had issues. Who the fuck cares what Wuwa had, I was talking about ZZZ. Don't try to pull in Wuwa and bend it with "b-but that other one had worse"!!
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>>1661707
Because you mentioned Wuwa first, dimwit. ZZZ's performance issue was experience by a minority of people just like every game launch in history. I didn't experience any. It was a really smooth launch.
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>>1661705
I don't understand why they did that, though, since from the beginning HSR has been an extremely faggy game
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>>1661591
>just an npc
nothing to worry about guys, it was never mixed toilet, it was going to be the ultimate coomer game
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>>1661490
Nice try to make the number looks big. 97 million JPY is only 600K in USD.
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>>1661709
So was Genshin but people refuse to admit they ignored all the red flags even in Honkai 3rd Mihoyo has always been a homo company.
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>>1661711
lmaooooooooooooooooooo 1/6 of astra yao
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>>1661711
I didn't try anything, I reported the numbers as is. You try to see some evil thing into it, which just tells more about (you). It's a fact that Roccia Day 1 is higher than the other ones. Higher than Yinlin, Changli or Jinhsi? Most likely not, but I don't know the daily numbers of those. The point was that it's trending upwards.
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>>1661699

The difference between DNF and GI or HSR for example is that the game story or the official account does not retweet or invite homosexual shit with its male characters, when it is the developer himself who does these things and ZZZ also did it in the beginning before its release, then they you told DNF players that you were not their target audience, and the result was that DNF took away the players that ZZZ should have had because both games are actually bet em up
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>>1661704
I used to play Granblue so that didn't really bother me. That game had characters made for women but didn't prioritize any side over the other (until recently). As long as I was getting my stuff, I was content. The real red flag was the censorship wave during Inazuma where some of the girls got alternate "safe" costumes that they always used for events. I knew things were about to go downhill and I was right.
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>>1661628
>normal gamers like us want games like picrel!
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>>1661716
Considering how Twitter also bitched nonstop about how Mihoyo treated Arataki Itto (horrible 3D model) and Ayato (virtually 0 plot relevance), looks like the entire Genshin fanbase were being screwed during Inazuma. It's hard to believe they're still top 5 until now.
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MHY's female players are shilling Where winds meet to each other. It's funny how this game is doing better than Infinity Nikki.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9426774578
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>>1661716
i still remember the ads of the furry character and the robot doing homo dances with rainbow background on the official bilibili ZZZ account, it was completely disgusting, i'm glad never fell into the trap, DNF as a fighting game is very fun and poison-free
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>>1661680
I hope they make it decently hard. I know they need an easy mode for kids and stuff but another thing I hate about mihoyo is how easy all their puzzles and games are.
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>>1661725
>where winds meet
I think women prefer realistic looking men over anime boys. That would explain why LaDS is so successful.
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>>1661722
>It's hard to believe they're still top 5 until now.
There's zero worthy competitor in gacha scene right now
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>>1661728
The game has multiplayer mode so I expect to do all the mini games with other real players.
Would be cool if you can do it with playable charas too
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Mihoyo CN fans (MXZ) just launched a large-scale cyberbullying directed at a Fudan University professor named Shen Yi.
The reason behind this cyberbullying was the dissatisfaction of MXZ with the professor's response to a fine imposed on Mihoyo by the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC).
MXZ expected the professor to stand with MHY, but when he didn't, they resorted to cyberbullying.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9437573166
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>>1661737
It is worth mentioning that this is not the first time that MXZ had attacked Mr. Shen.
Previously, Mr. Shen released a screenshot of himself playing the black myth Wukong, MXZ were spamming his DM.
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>>1661737
No one likes Mihoyo fans.
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>>1661737
I'm amazed the government doesn't step on Mihoyo for how much trouble they cause
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>>1661741
What is their problem with Wukong?
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>>1661741
the only ones who can hate Black Myth on CN are indeed mihoyo fans
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>>1661744
because it surpassed the revenue from the release of Genshin Impact and i took away the title of national game being only a console and PC pay to play game
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>>1661750
>Pissing themselves over dick measuring contests between companies like its their own personal achievement
That's kind of sad
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>>1661744
>Genshin Impact is a phenomenon of national success produced by covid-19
>Black Myth Wukong is a phenomenon of national success produced against all odds (in CN they were skeptical of the only PC and console games until the arrival of Black Myth Wukong)
MXZ got angry because genshin impact lost against the facts
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>>1661729
There my heated opinion. I think that we need more LaDS gachage in order to divert female audience from male focused gachage. It also to shrink the market demography for mixed toilet gachage so atleast the mixed toilet gachage are deprived from their income source
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>>1661806
Most yumesisters might already play it, you need a fujoshit gacha to direct the real problem away.
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>>1661807
>you need a fujoshit gacha
Bro, your genshin?
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>>1661806
That will direct nothing away. Their problem is not just not having their own game. But you having fun with yours. If they get their own game and its successful, they would get a massive head and attack other games even more to pander to them, since the success example is there. They are already kinda doing it with Lads despite the fact it's a yumestacy otome game and they banned them out of the community, yet they still use that as an example because there is nothing else to push female player agenda with. You really don't want them to get an actual.successful one, it wouldn't be a containment.
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[Breaking News]

>Waterkuma, the lead artist and character designer for Zenless Zone Zero has switched profile picture to FoFo from the hit game Honkai: Star Rail.

>Chinese netizens have spotted him walking into HSR's HQ, indicating he has transferred to HSR's team.
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>>1661857
That's the blacked fag right?
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I haven't paid much attention to what games are out or coming out. I mostly look for hot girl characters focus grouped to have designs that appeal specifically to me, the ability to pre-farm stuff for new characters rather than having to gather newly introduced flavor of the month materials every single banner, not having a dozen fucking systems each with their own exp token to grind, and not needing to waste a time-limited resource on RNG equipment that I'm just going to shitcan as useless roughly 110% of the time. Is there anything like that new or in the works?
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>>1661860
Wasn't that dishwasher?
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>>1661860
Yeah, the loli one specifically.
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>>1661863
Maybe they have two
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>motomommy > shitty brick
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>>1661874
El Capitano...
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>>1661807
Okay there is my unpopular opinion to deal with yurishit by fighting fire with fire, aka making temporary alliance with actual lesbian. Based on my observation, most yurislop consoomer is male (since they hate dick aka male character in their game). Since actual lesbian hate Fujo/Fudanfags. I could use them to destroy Yurishit gachage by inciting controversy by spreading LGBT message (the shipping character saying LGBT pride or waving rainbow flag) scaring away actual Fudanfags (male version of fujofags). Also Inciting drama in their community, to waking up the straight male player to redpilled, resulting mixed toilet gachage collapse
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>>1661857
That's even worse than working on zzzz lol
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The discussion has already ended but I just wanted to add one thing about Azur Promilla: one of the biggest problems with it is that it used the AZUR name. Azur Lane is about as close as you can get to being a porn game without actually being one and it's all female characters. The roll currency is given extremely generously, but they make all their money through selling lewd skins and merchandise. Basically, if you're going to call your next game AZUR something, people are going to want more of the same thing. Not safe horny spats and male characters. It's literally slapping your fanbase that provided the revenue to make your next game right in the face.

It reminds me of what happened to the Dead or Alive franchise. Koei Tecmo has the genius idea of announcing DoA6 at EVO and saying "Hey guys we're no longer that coomer fighting game all our girls are dressed very modestly, now please let us in on the e-sports scene :)" Unsurprisingly the game flopped horribly. They pissed off their loyal fanbase and it's not like Street Fighters were suddenly going to care about it.

If Manjuu went through with releasing AP as a mixed toilet then the exact same thing would have happened. The coomers who play AL weren't going to give a shit about it, and Mihomo players were still only going to play Mihomo games. It would have crashed and burned hard and I'm actually a little thankful Manjuu had the insight to realize this.
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meanwhile in the other side of the sphere
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>>1661940
Amazing what happens when you just decide on an audience instead of trying to have them all at once.
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lol
lmao
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>>1661948
You speak like hoyo games never happened
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>>1661953
During Covid, yeah. Now they're crumbling like retards.
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>>1661956
...in two weeks
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So after a week of the beta being released, Endfield when from "shit gacha, the greediest one" to "one of the best gachas in the market". The funniest thing is that some people still complain about it because they don't incentivize whaling and are doomposting a lot.
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>>1661963
? Did they change anything?
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>>1661965
People just read and did the math. Even without changing anything, it has much better rates than any hoyo game or wuwa. Also apparently you get nearly 40 rolls and 4 ten rolls of the weapon banner per month.
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>>1661977
>f2p can only reach ceiling every 3 months
>no safety net for whales
>all without factoring the difficulty and time consumed to earn that amount of rolls
Sounds like they still spit on both sides for me.
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>weapon banner
What's so irresistible about this horseshit that most middle kingdom gacha must put it in ?
>money
Can't they just tone it down a bit and go "it is about the experience, relax" and go back to AL days ?
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>>1661986
the AL model only works for AL
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>>1661977
> apparently you get nearly 40 rolls and 4 ten rolls of the weapon banner per month.
That's fucking bad, why is this any different? Aren't the rates the same as in Genshit or WW where you can only roll for guarantee every 2-3 months?
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>>1661986
>AL model
GFL and AL both did it, only worked out for one of them. Still impressive to see that game pull into the 10 millions for its annis.
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>>1661986
Mixed dungs characters have zero selling points please understand.
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Apparently the wedding skin in PGR was just for a role play. (You) don't actually marry the girl.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9439848056
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>>1661994
And they basically copypaste dialogs from Snowpeak
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>>1661591
>posts the most NPC looking motherfucker imaginable
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>>1661986
Weapon banner is literally free money.
>Just a 3d model
>No new animations
>No new sounds
>No new effects
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>>1662011
can I just mod the skin in ?
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>>1661977
Lol, that sounds awful
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>>1662012
AFAIK, model and texture swaps are pretty common in Unity based 3d gachas like Mihomo's stuff.
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I don't get it, are these posters are genuine or not. On the other they turn cheek on Ananta and Wuwa but screech the moment AP is mentioned.
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>>1662023
Because AP is the only upcoming gacha that feels like GBF, most other gachas even Endfield are going in the opposite direction. Yes AP devs is course correcting as we speak but many original team left due to conflict in vision so they're short staffed, they have lost their best timing to release the game >>1661631
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>>1661940
I just can't believe this. LAD's never been big outside of CN especially on the Global server.
The devs also claimed IN had over 30 million preregistrations but again if you check stats most of their cash is still coming from Ch*nks.
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>>1662027
Organic 30 million pre-regis and made less than GFL2 botted 5 million in their launch month.
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So with the Raymond NTR mythbusted, what now?
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>>1662036
Yuzhong now personally leads the writing team. Daiyan's & other rewritten events are now changed from character events into part of main story update.
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>>1662036
I don't care of that shit anymore. I don't get Suomi in my coinflip therefore I will not support them and their gacha model is shit. Nuff said.
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>>1662027
It must be organic only to use like advertising, there are only 3 gachagames that have reached the historical milestone of 10 million downloads in tap tap.

1. Genshin Impact.
2. Honkai Star Rail
3. Wuthering Waves

they are the most likely to have the most players at the moment.
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>>1662044
Also they hit you with tons of battlepasses tied to the daily like some cheap fomo game.
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Wuwa needs to go full coomer mode like ToF
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>>1662066
Is that official art?
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>>1662067
yea
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1AofGY8EpQ/
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>>1662066
Well, Kuro did ask in a recent survey how we like our favorite characters
And I chose tall female, and there were many options for the body, like muscular, voluptuous, where the tacet mark should be (chest, thighs, arms, etc.), and even asked if we would like furries, lmao
So they are indeed looking for different designs for new characters
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>>1662070
>even asked if we would like furries
That's an understatement kek
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>>1662069
Finally, a character that represents me
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i love mixed toilets.
all gacha games should be mixed toilets.
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>>1662066
So they are putting coom after the Jinshi skin fiasco? KEK
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>>1662090
what fiasco
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>>1662090
What a retard, lmao
Learn to read, nigga
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>>1662068
So they just put up obvious AI slop now, huh?
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>>1662023
They're Chinese, dogpiling games that try to appeal to them then sinking all the money into some mixed shithole is their national sport.
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>>1661998
Kuro taking "just copy Snowbreak" literally.
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>>1662165
Urgent news: the company that can only copy from others, copies from others
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>>1662165
ikr
now do wuwa
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[SAD NEWS] Snowbreak just sent an in game mail with NTR vibe around Fanny. Other communities are making fun of them.
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Something seems off here. Can you find it?
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>>1662194
I want to see the legendary battle between Ling Yi and Raymond.
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>>1662194
OHNONONONO EOS SOON??
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>>1662200
Raymond is just some beta cuck that got emotional over a song, turned himself in, and wrote a letter or some shit
Ling Yi is the chad NTR man, he'll destroy that loser
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[SAD NEWS] AL players are also getting harassed by Manjuu shills
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9441348314
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wtfff
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>>1662207
lmao Natlan flopped THIS bad
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Otomo games won
Mixed toilets flopped
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>>1662210
kill all mixed toilets.
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>>1661382
Against my better judgment, I'm looking to add a third gacha game to my life. Should I go for HSR or Wuwa?
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>>1662194
RETURN OF KING RAYMOND???
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>>1662213
do you have a lot of time? wuwa
not a lot of time? hsr
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>>1662213
wuthering waves support kuro saar hoyo very bad
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>>1662213
Shit's free yo try both of them and see what you like more
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>>1662210
>Infinity Nikki #16
>Infinity Nikki below WWM
Won? But WWM is a flop though, if it's flopped how could IN win.
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>>1662210
Nikkisisters we've won so hard
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>>1662207
LOL!
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>>1662207
Chances of this story being 90% yuribait?
>new character off on the side
Grim.
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>bump up game's age rating from 12+ to 15+ on iOS
>first thing devs do is experiment on how much detail they can put into pantsu while staying within new age rating's limits
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[GOOD NEWS] Genshin is officially back to the roots
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>>1662263
Back to the roots of what?
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>>1662264
Roots of Snowpeak!
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>>1662265
So after all of this shitshow is just Yuri bait? Well i guess genshin are just like most other gachage.(Yuribait without real Yurishit)
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>genshin has finally started selling ML
we won so hard MLbros...
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>>1662207
Lol, why is no one in here putting more attention to this?
This shit is fucking hilarious, I never thought genshin would go as far as putting a fucking onsen scene

Wtf is going on? Kek
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>>1662286
JP outfit as skin maybe?
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>>1662287
>why is no one in here putting more attention to this?
Because there is a good chance it is just more yurishit, why would I care about a hollow gesture from a company that has repeatedly shown me it has no intention of giving me what I want? Are you seriously forgetting what they just did in ZZZ?
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How long until hoyo's collapse dramasisters? I donated some money to Peter Zeihan today btw!
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>>1662287
It's just yet another bait and switch.
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>>1662245
it just went up
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>>1662207
>>1662263
>sold my account
fuck...
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>>1662294
For sure soon. They're only making hundreds of millions a month which isn't enough to stop /ourguys/ Seasun.
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>>1662265
Are these people still seething about Snowbreak? Do they blame it for ruining their fujo utopia or what?
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>>1662311
Who else would they blame?
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>>1662305
>he fell for the bait n switch
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>>1662287
No one trust Mihomo anymore.
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>Mihoyo first started attacking ML players and calling them incels and that they were ruining the industry
>Now they somehow want those players to go back to their games
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>>1662325
So it's all good now?
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>>1662325
it's even more ironic when you realized mhy paid those bilibili posters to make that kind of vids in the first place
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>mihoyo makes an onsen cg
>while snowbreak releases hot springs as a part of the dorms
Talk about brutal mogging.
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>>1662330
hey at least we didnt get a black screen with white text like some other game
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>>1662262
No age rating changes would get me back into Everflop, holy crap anyone who’s complained about Nikke or BA’s wait times clearly hasnt tried ES, that game’s gacha makes those two look speedy.
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>>1662207
Real Hoyofans don't like this https://www.reddit.com/r/Genshin_Impact/comments/1i8u83u/so_i_need_to_visit_this_bath_house_now/?sort=controversial
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>>1662337
Most of the waifufags stayed until Inazuma when Sumeru fell, they fled to other games like Nikke, returned to their niches like AL or simply tried new things like Snowbreak or GFL2.

In any case, it is impossible for them to come back because now it is too late and there have more choice, hoyo had the monopoly and they ruined it because a pair of infiltrated yumejos who sucked xiao luohao's cock lol
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At this point, I might as well should make a calendar about how frequent hoyo game meltdowns/drama are, because despite not even passing a month, pretty sure it will be up to 15 at least if not more...
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>>1662194
Link to the original?
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>>1662327
>So it's all good now?
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>>1662287
Because people are already aware of the rug pull tactic that mihomo love using already. Having (you) pandering now means it could be retconned later after (your) money is safe and secure in their pocket.
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>>1662207
>>1662263
>sex goddess mavuika with ass jiggle powecreeps arletroon and wormvillette forever
>mavuika and citlali banners are a success
>hoyo goes based and now adds an onsen scene
Hoyobros, are we back?
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>>1662207
This is the kind of shit genshin should've been doing from day 1. Maybe if mihomo didn't fill the dev team with homolusting women this would've saved their declining revenue instead of looking like them putting a bandaid to heal a severed arm.
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>>1662287
so these are the people that fall for mihomo’s bait
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https://nga.178.com/read.php?tid=43115095

Please come back to Genshin! All-female, don't leave.
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>>1662375
>Mauvika and Citlali together barely earned more than Furina alone
>Have to go even deeper into pandering due to emergency
I don't think you are back, they are trying hard. But you just know as soon as they stabilize again (if they do, that is) they will go back to shitting in player's mouth.
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>>1662357

I honestly haven't seen much drama in Genshin Impact lately except for Mauvika's controversial design.

The ones that are full of drama are HSR and ZZZ lately
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>>1662401
>Raiden alone has been the character that has earned more money than Furina, Nahida, and Mauvika combined.
If they had not changed from that success that was inazuma, they would never have lost so much
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>>1662401
>>1662406
There is no stabilizing anymore because the entire gacha industry is kinda fucked now. Pandering is the least they could do to avoid sinking but compared to 2021/2022 the industry is in a dire state. COVID is over and people are starting to go back to traditional games over gacha.
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>>1662399
>they even brought kokomi back
I don't remember the last time she showed up.
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>>1662399
Ayakabros....
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>>1662407
You don't lose the monopoly that easily unless you force a drastic change yourself, it's similar to World of Warcraft, they only fall if they kill themselves, Genshin killed himself because he didn't want to maintain the status quo of Inazuma
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>>1662401
>>1662389
>>1662380
>>1662369
>>1662299
but enough about >>1662194
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>>1662410
Even World of Warcraft suffered after normalfags left. Every "booming" game is always like this. Relying on normalfags to carry the game until EoS is just not realistic. At some point your game is old and outdated and there's no choice but to cater to the few whales who are still left. Normalfags prefer new games, and Genshin is far from being new so there is no renewal of players.
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>>1662201
Unironically, snowpeak wouldn't resist another huge controversy like the one of this last patch
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>>1662410
>there is a saying in my country that says: "if it works, don't touch it."
world of warcraft forced a lot with shadowlands and genshin impact with sumeru both received their respective deserts.
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>>1662416
Blizzard had already been taken over from the inside by "those people" at that point just like Hoyo with their 40% women employees. Some things just keep repeating themselves.
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>>1662416
As someone who quit just before Fontaine, let me tell you Genshin had the opposite problem where because everything worked fine, they didn't touch anything which resulted in severe stagnation in terms of gameplay loop. That was the number one reason normalfags left.
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>>1662414
World of Warcraft fell because it wanted to inclusive and diverse, it made an expansion focused on Silvanas and it was a complete failure.

final fantasy XIV falls for the same reason because wut lamak the biggest crap that has ever existed.

genshin because of sumeru

breaking the status quo leads to those consequences and now they want to return to their roots all those games but they can't do it no matter how hard they try because the damage is irreversible and trust is lost.
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>>1662414

I'm not so sure, Genshin Impact's retention rate plummeted in Sumeru and it hadn't even been 4 years, while Arknots has one of the highest retention rates, what's the difference between the two? that arknots did not dare to swim in turbulent waters.
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>99% male gamers! "Brown Dust 2" PD & CEO Lee Jun-hee shares the key to bringing the dead back to life after 0.5th Anni
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=43116546

>Lee Jun-hee pointed out: 'When creating illustrations, we ultimately decided to develop in the direction that players love, with 99% of the players being male. Crisis is an opportunity, and this has set our direction. In terms of quality, we are quite excellent. While large-scale illustrations can be seen everywhere, the high-quality 2D animations we present in "Brown Dust 2" are produced with the highest standards in mind. The quality of the illustrations in our game is recognized as top-tier among similar games
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>>1662420
>it made an expansion focused on Silvanas and it was a complete failure.
Sylvanas wasn't the problem. Sylvanas was a great character before they decided to take her arc. Doesn't help one of the main writers quite literally self-inserted as Nathanos so he took down two characters with one. All the old guard at Blizzard are gone, that is the problem.
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>>1662420
I don't buy the culture wars excuse because BG3 was the biggest game of 2023. To me wokeism is a symptom not a cause. More often than not hiring activists is problematic because DEI hires tend to be incompetent and the very opposite of meritocracy. You're supposed to hire the best talent and make the best game, but more often than not the good devs were replaced by incompetent DEI hires. Overwatch is the clear example of this. People didn't quit when S76 turned gay. They quit after old devs were replaced, content dried up, and balance became whack.
>>1662422
Arknights didn't hang its entire existence on normalfags. They managed to build a steady otaku fanbase while also being pretty much unbothered in the tower defense genre while Genshin pretty much became public enemy no.1 with everyone and their mom suddenly targeting Mihoyo.
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>>1662433
Overwatch became progressively gayer over time with more characters becoming gay and eventually the game started having pride events. Woke fatigue is indeed real.
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>>1662433
>They quit after old devs were replaced, content dried up, and balance became whack
Doesn't help they decided to essentially remake the first game into a worse version of itself all to change the monetization scheme and go back on nearly all the promises they made when they first announced OW2.
Either way you're right, people mainly care if a game is good or not. If the game is good, people generally will ignore the woke stuff...and generally it is implemented better anyways. However if a game is shit you tend to not ignore the woke stuff because it is generally incredibly on the nose and usually one of the factors on why the writing is shit since they are trying to make a statement instead of a story.
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>>1662438
True, but again to me that was a symptom not a cause. The cause was because they replaced the old devs with incompetent DEI hires who cared more about gay pride and muh diversity than putting out real content for players to enjoy.
>>1662440
Just like Genshin, people didn't mind Venti acting gay or fujos drawing 10000 arts of Zhongli x Childe back then because Mihoyo released good quality waifus with fun gameplay for waifufags to enjoy (Ganyu, Keqing, Klee, Jean, Mona, etc) . And then came Inazuma and the quality clearly nosedived (Yae's kit was basically EEEQEEE wtf was that), and then came Sumeru with even lower quality (RIP Dehya) and hell broke loose.
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things that made me abandon sumeru from my point of view as a "normal player":
>absurdly large map that did not respect my time
>puzzles increasingly strange, it's as if the designer doesn't even study what kind of puzzles are fun.
>similar to the first point, many freemogems were behind quests that were absurdly long and without a skip button it was a suffering
>nahida's story was strange, it felt like a retcon but i can't remember why
>the character design were uninteresting the fantasy concept was lost so to speak except for nahida and dehya, none of them interested me, then they did that to dehya for no reason so i had no reason to continue playing.
>i asked thousands of times for QQL to make the exploration more enjoyable for the people with work because the covid ended, they ignored me, so i left quietly
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>>1662445
>thousands of times for QQL to make the exploration more enjoyable for the people with work because the covid ended
Not sure exactly what you mean here, but for me it was when they kept releasing traversal skills on limited characters (Xiao dash, Venti, Kazuha, Wanderer)
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>>1662444
I mean, it tells a lot that as someone who don't play Genshin, the only character you truly hear about after Sumeru is just Furina and Arlechino. There was the green bitch for being ugly, but I even forgot her name. Then from Natlan, I know Mauvika and Blue Ochako and that's it. This tells you everything what's the problem with the game.
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>>1662445
This. You know it's bad when even Haikaveh fujos (the very demographic that Mihoyo tried pandering so hard to) quit the game over tedious exploration lmao.
Good waifupandering can keep me in a bad game for... maybe 3 or 4 patches? But after that if the gameplay doesn't improve, no amount of waifupandering can convince me to keep playing the game.
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>>1662445
What is da wei reading?
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>>1662448
for example, one of the QQLs that i requested in Genshin Impact during that time was actually placed by Wuthering Waves on 2.0 patch, which is like a kind of interactive map within the game that tells you what you need to complete the exploration 100% and It also tells you how to do it, a very useful tool for people like me who work in an office.
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>>1662460
gacha drama #12
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>>1662462
The main arc of the update is done, we're back to the filler shit until Nod Krai (not even Snezhnaya until next year it seems, kek)
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Mihoyo bros... the ML fans aren't taking our bait.
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When is the fucking animal crossing hoyo game even getting any official news zenless isn't even enough anymore
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If MHY wants to capture the ML audience again why did they release HSR 3.0 in its current state?
Weird how 2.3 HSR had the bigger ML pandering in all MHY games.
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>>1662467
Turtlebros...
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>>1662459
As someone who hates fujos probably more than anyone here, these retards quit for the "lack of representation", hoyo never pandered to the female audience in the slightest
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Sometimes I'm tempted to come back to Genshin to roll their newest characters (usually Archons or Harbingers) only for terrible memories of Aranara questline to come flashing by and suddenly I don't want to reinstall it anymore.
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>>1662476
Pretty sure you aren't alone
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>>1662471
>we want the ML audience!
>HSR 3.0
>Astra and Evelyn
I wouldn't be surprised if that hot springs scene has yuribait in it too.
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>>1662471
>2.3
You mean the yuribait that's explicitly targeted at straight males?
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>>1662482
except it triggered all the yurifags tho
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>>1662482
It would be aimed at heterosexual men but since it is not
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>>1662480
Yea it gets even worse with anby S and Trigger and pulchra and burnice
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>>1662471
Because for some reason Shaoji managed to convince everyone in Mihoyo to give him 8 (eight) patches that will apparently turn Star Rail into some literary masterpiece by the end of it.
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But honestly, why would dawei want to burn bridge with the audience he tried to cater to in the first place?
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>>1662492
thanks god my boy Fanchuan isnt involved in this mess
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>>1662493
Because he's a retard. Honestly he's lucky he spawned such low IQ fanbase otherwise Mihoyo would've went broke long ago.
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>>1662493
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH my umbrella baby!!!
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>>1662496
MHY had been carried by Cai but that dude is such an asshole after genshin's success that his friends turned on him
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>>1662493
Dawei is likely just a public figure and doesn't hold real power in the company anymore. Dude looks like he aged 20 years from having to do damage control. Whoever is at the top must have realized that they were losing money and forced the Genshin team to change tactics. The women on their team would have never agreed to this on their own.
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>>1662500
He deserves it for canceling project X. In a parallel world we could've had an open world shooter instead of ZZZ the HI3 clone.
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>>1662498
[SAD NEWS] Snowpeak is mentioned by angry female player AGAIN after genshin's stream...
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>>1662504
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>>1662470
That animal crossing game is targeting the most casual of normalfags.
Which may work considering the nature of Hoyoverse, actually...
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>>1662502
ZZZ's team is the best one out in all mihoyo with the attention they've put into the game. Yes even more than HI3. So I disagree because project X could've been the mess ZZZ hasn't been. Only bad thing is the lack of males but I feel like that decision comes from an upper position so you can't blame them
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>>1662507
The people seething at games going the Snowbreak route don't even realize that Snowbreak is just following what AL did but in 3D.
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>>1662501
>doesn't hold real power
he definitely has, thats why his baby HSR is siphoning all the money from other projects
>The women on their team would have never agreed to this on their own
this is what made me curious, genshin team has a lot of women working on it so idk how would they feel with the new direction of genshin right now
remember male like haitham or wrio have ass texture while dehya has pitch black crotch, I wonder if they are happy with making proper panties for new female charas
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>>1662510
Even more damning the upper management decision is to run as far as possible from the furry game label, as if making the same thing everyone's been making would be able to distinguish ZZZ in this heavily saturated market.
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Girls Literally Only Want One Thing And It's Fucking Disgusting
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Will anime GTA be the next big thing?
Or are we seeing the beginning of the end for open world gacha games?
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>>1662504
>>1662507
>*changes your entire industry landscape in your path*
How the FUCK did such small game do it?
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>>1662523
One thing we know about CN gacha industry is that they tend to flock to the most successful game. That means Snowbreak is still the most successful to this day.
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>>1662476
There is no reason to. After years and by years I mean I left and never looked back in mid 1.X patches, I downloaded it and played around a bit, planned to go through stories I didn't do yet. I did like two, planned to continue it and... I just didn't do it in the last 2 weeks. Even if I want to enjoy the game for the JP voice acting and story, the gameplay itself, even just going from A to B is so damn slow that I think Wuwa just killed nearly any chances of me trying to go through the game, even just to complete the main story.
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>>1662521
no. chinese games can't do anime GTA well due to laws, it will turn out to be far inferior compared to GTA5 or even GTA6, and both Ananta and NtE are mixed toilets. Not to mention Netease has been fully infiltrated by feminists.

Only Azur Promilia has any chance of success among the big upcoming gacha games and that's if they go as horny as Azur Lane.
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>>1662521
Hard to say.
I want it to be successful but NetEase is terrible at operation. At the very least they put effort into the game so it should be able to entertain me for a while.
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>>1662523
They did it at the right time.
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You can forgive Snowbreak despite it also being mixed toilet with NTR at first.
Why couldnt you do the same for Genshin?
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>>1662531
They deleted that guy before the game officially launched. Also, people are giving Wuwa a pass even though it had the same cuck writer originally so it's just a matter of creating a good reputation which Hoyo completely botched.
It would take atleast a year of full commitment before people start to accept it again.
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>>1662521
As another anon mentioned, chinks can't do gacha GTA. Laws will kill any chaotic element of it, there will be not enough stuff in them to roleplay and pretty sure due to being a gacha, all the minigames GTA usually have and should be in the game permanently will be rotatimg events instead. It just wouldn't work well, maybe if some korean devs would try, but not chinks for sure.
What I see happening will be that everyone will try to make a mixed toilet game while heavily pandering only to waifu enjoyers and if it doesn't work out for them, they will go the Manjuu route and make it female only. It will be a time where devs will try the waters for themselves and check how much their audience can swallow.
You already have examples of this. Manjuu got fucked because they cultivated a coomer audience. Snowbreak shifted because being just basic tacticool didn't work. Wuwa won in this but that's because they do the same they do in PGR, pandering to waifu enjoyers and making 1-2 cool looking homos a year, so the audience accepts it. Same will happen to Arknights, they already cultivated out their audience.
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>>1662531
Because mihomo in their attempt to pander to femcels destroyed several things along the way; like irreversible botching Dehya, ruined all of Fontaine and created several safehorny female designs that could've been way better if not
These things can't be fixed now and are trash forever
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Genshin Impact was a game that in its beginnings pleased in its own way, no one asked them to be snowbreak but no one asked them to make the designs of the female characters increasingly dull, after inazuma this was more noticeable.

fun fact no female character so far has replicated modeling of Mona's ass or Eula's Genshin Impact was infected from within by women (jimei) and men (beta) who obviously did not share its "Otaku Save The World" philosophy.
hips.
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>>1662555
mavuika's ass mogs both
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male pullers status?
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[SAD NEWS] Large scale doxxing just happened to multiple Tieba sub forums. Most of them are pro male/anti 2D gacha/wuwa related forum. Who could be behind this chaos?
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9441970757
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>>1662566
Man the chinese gacha industry is something else
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>>1662566
I don't understand that translation, why did they do that to them?
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>>1662570
>anti 2D gacha
they deserve worse
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>>1662570
because they offended some people that they shouldnt
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>>1662523
They removed all the worms
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>>1662580
shame it has canon female mc
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>>1662580
GFL2 having models like this should show people that other games are either being lazy or they just have shit 3D modelers. Especially considering the revenue difference.
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>>1662510
>Only bad thing is the lack of males
lol
lmao
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It's such a funny coincidence that SB just had its own bath scene yesterday.
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>>1662585
Not really, it depends of the type of game
You can't compare GFL2 to open world gachas
Wuwa and Ananta are the ones that are pushing their character models in open world genre because they're new, while genshin did try to make them slightly better in natlan but their modeling artstyle is just outdated by now
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>>1662599
Support female players' rights. Mihoyo does treat the girls playing their game like human beings! I think it's about time for all female players to start boycotting Genshin.
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>>1662580
Looking more and more like a porn game instead of a strategy game
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>>1662605
It's hard to play this game with 1 hand
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>>1662605
The frontline is SKK's bedroom, and strategy is how to seduce him Everything check outs to me.
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>>1662399
>>1662599
If hoyo really wants to recapture the lost male audience, they would make this mode permanent and you could invite any girl at any time
Even reused animations and poses would be enough
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>>1662580
Talking about GFL2, are they flopping in JP? Game-i shows that release banner was 291M Yen, the one after that was 312M Yen while the new one is at... 58M Yen despite being roughly 1/3 there with the banner. With its roughly 2 weeks left, it will land somewhere around 150M, that's a pretty chunky drop.
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>>1662609
They already have a mode for this, the teapot. Just add things like this to it.
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>>1662611
same happened in China. The game just gets boring quick like most games in the genre, it doesn't help that it's 1 year behind and like 80% of the girls aren't worth rolling for.
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>>1662536
>They deleted that guy before the game officially launched.
And added references to him 3 times now.
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[SAD NEWS] Female players discovered that Where Winds Meet used to follow Black Myth Wukong and aren't happy with that knowledge
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9442132121
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>>1662566
Was the genshit leak board that's full of snoggers get hit?
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>>1662617
NetEase oh NetEase
What are you going to do~
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>>1662618
yea
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>>1662621
Nice. Happy to see retards that harass other fanbases get fucked.
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>>1662616
You mean the rogue employees they have to constantly fire because they keep trying to ruin the game? They should be more careful about who they hire, I agree.
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>>1662612
Is funny how the teapot could've been an extra for actual character interactions but hoyo went so fucking lazy by just making the characters stand there like retards
It would be really fucking funny if wuwa adds their spin of this but goes the extra mile by at least making the characters walk around and sit
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>>1662623
If they have to constantly fire people because they are saboteurs, maybe they should become a better company.
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>>1662624
Ananta's dating system will solve this problem
You can give your waifu a ride around the city even!
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>>1662626
You're not going to laugh when one day companies stop hiring women because they are too much of a liability.
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>>1662624
They might, but I also enjoy that some characters have a place in the overworld they are at so you can go back and sit around with them. Like Shorekeeper and the piano.
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>>1662399
Oh so they added the scrapped hot spring?
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>>1662629
Yes, that's why every other company has to deal with this.
t. only company that has to deal with it
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>>1662399
It is funny how much seethe that hotsprings CG has generated.
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>>1662632
Said company is also the only company that generates endless seethe from a very specific crowd as if their game murdered their faimilies.
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>57 pulls
>FIVE SEVEN
Now this is just shameless.
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>>1662639
you're supposed to support the game financially
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>>1662639
pay up gweilo
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>>1662599
Difference is Genshin's bath is going to be mixed toilet. Imagine if the adjudant had to bathe with other male NPC...oh wait they got rid of all of them.
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>>1662420
>>1662430
Wolo failed because the new guard devs wanted to purge the "frat boy" elements out of the game that have been apart of the game since it's exception. Along with there retarded focus on the "cosmic war" that ruined the mythicisim of franchise main due to the new guard that lacks the appreciation of europeon myth and Lotr that the old guard had.
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>>1662644
Why do they keep trying to bring in Ayato? They already fumbled with that character multiple times now, just let the dude rest.
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>>1662646
Genshin's "genius" characters always failed imo.
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>>1662645
Personally I really liked how they handled Antorus. Then they managed to ruin everything in Shadowlands and killed pretty much all enjoyment I had with WoW's lore.
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>>1662645
The consequences of the newer generation being raised on capeshit, multiverses and endless cliffhangers.
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>>1662635
You also described hoyoshit funnily enough.
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>>1662645
i will never understand the videogame development scene, the new guard developers want to purge the content of their predecessors for some strange reason... maybe for ego reasons? I don't know but what happened in Genshin Impact and World of Warcraft is crazy
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>>1662664
Because they want to use existing IPs to further their own moral messages since they are too creatively bankrupt to come up with something original.
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>>1662664
It is definitely a matter of ego, and also how retarded the CEOs of some companies can be, look what happened with DAV, it ruined the franchise and the fucking trans producer fled
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>>1662510
>ZZZ's team is the best one out in all mihoyo with the attention they've put into the game
Kek. That's a really funny joke.
It's actually Genshin. Sadly Genshin hate their male audience. But in terms of "attention" its the best out of all Hoyoverse games.
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>>1662664
In women's case they just hate men being happy.
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>>1662670
It's very funny because Jason Schreier boasted about the success of Dragon Age Veil Guard, while calling the old target audience "incels" for wanting a more attractive character creator, they are even basic and use the same arguments both in the United States and in China.
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>>1662675
Wasn't there a report saying that it missed sales targets by 50%?
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>>1662675
The funny part is how he deleted that tweet after it turned out that Veilguard flopped.
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>>1662677
they announce that Dragon Age: The Veilguard missed sales expectations by more than 50%, and EA Games shares fell more than 17%, that is equivalent to approximately 6 6 billion dollars
dollars and Corinne Busche the troon director was fired, obviously many journos were lying about the DAV success.
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>>1662677
not sales, "players"
actual sales plus refunds were likely below 1 million
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>>1662683
>obviously many journos were lying about the DAV success.
I thought it was pretty common knowledge most gaming related news is bought and paid for. You can go to different articles and see nearly the same exact wordage being used for all of them. Not to mention I just looked and a lot of articles about it change the numbers to make it seem not as bad as it was.
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>>1662566
So MLfags are doxxing trannies and WuWajeets? based
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>>1662678
He even fled from twitter the coward
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>>1662687
And then snoggers later go crying about why everyone hates them and sabotage their shitty game, kek
Well deserved
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>>1662687
The MLfags are also getting doxxed though
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>>1662690
Tranny
>>1662691
So someone decided go free for all? that is even better
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Wuthering Waves "hottest" new character leaked meanwhile Mihomo >>1662207
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>>1662695
posting fanart
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>>1662695
The hebe elf is hotter.
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>>1662696
oh sorry muhamad you want me to post Zani the dyke?
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>>1662695
>Changli x Brant shipbait
>Soft camera censorship
>Safe horny Jinshi skin
>yuribait with Zani x Phoebe

and WuWa was supposed to be a ML game KEK
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>>1662698
dyke because she talked to another female like twice , you’re not trying hard enough ranjeet
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Oh oh, hoyotroon has arrived...
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Holy shit you mean to tell me that Bennett literally fucks everyone in Genshin?
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>>1662701
>Breast jiggle removed like Sanhua
>First character with pants
>Man looking face
>Totally not a dyke btw
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>>1662639
wanna rolle rolle gotta paye paye
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The only bad thing about wuwa designs are the butt capes. Forget about MLfags, assfags are the most oppressed group
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>>1662705
I dont play genshit anymore but knowing mihomo there is probably a chance that is true and with respect to Changli ,you dont pair your most popular character with a homoflop sis, that is how you attract shiptrannies
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>>1662695
mihomo hahaha
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>>1662700
>Changli x Brant shipbait
then lighter fucks evelyn and lycaon fuck sharkgirl
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>>1662711
Nah, that's a thing in these cn gachas
Idk if because of laws and self-censoring, or just because of their design choices
Sometimes some females without them appear but so far in-between
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>>1662671
What the fuck. No gacha went as far as literally changing both the combat and exploration to satisfy the zoomers like zzz did.
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>>1662718
Because they don't ignore Beta tester feedback and fixed it before the game goes life. Even Arknights Enfield does that.
Meanwhile ZZZ ignore its beta tester feedback and forced to fix it after they're flopping. It's obvious that you're new to gacha, lol.
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>>1662695
>Posting fanart
KEK
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new characters in game ZZZ
>a homo ice attacker (miyabi powercreep)
>a girl with gotic dress
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>>1662727
hoyoturds are getting real desperate huh
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>>1662729
The rumors about Waterkuma not working on ZZZ anymore may be real after all.
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>>1662729
I fucking can't take ZZZ as a game seriously when all the characters look worse than Wuwa NPCs... the gothic vampire is so-so, but that homo is laughably bad looking kek
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>>1662732
>Waterkuma not working on ZZZ anymore may be real after all.
here >>1661857
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>>1662207
I guess they really are trying to run away from the homos and sisters infesting their game after all.
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something is happening in ZZZ this design is very ugly, if your intention is to show part of the armpits then remove the damn sleeves and let it look like for example Dagashi Kashi's hotaru dress, hoyo no longer has designers who understand anime designs this is crazy.
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>>1662734
The cook in the middle of Rinascita is so damn cute I stopped for a sec to look if she has a tacet mark anywhere to indicate if she's playable
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>>1662747
otaku save the world doesn't understand the designs that otakus like lol
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>>1662734
Just say you're a gooner and you can't see any female design in a non sexual way which makes you hate male designs
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>>1662747
>>1662752
I dunno how the development timeline would line up but, it feels like they wanted to do Carlotta after seeing her, but backed out
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>>1662698
>you want me to post Zani
Yes
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>>1662729
>>1662747
Seems that ZZZ can't make decent non-horny designs after all
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>>1662747
ZZZ characters are really becoming more safe. The recent ones look like they weren't allowed to show too much skin.
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>>1662753
He looks like an NPC. There are a million ways you can make a cool vampire.
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>>1662729
the character models in zenless really fell off a cliff
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>>1662732
>>1662734
>>1662747
>>1662754
>>1662762
>>1662765
Nah, the furry girl will be playable so they still have the touch
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>>1662747
damn you're right.
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>>1662611
Putting NTR rumor aside, Daiyan is a known brick banner especially compared to back to back high tier Suomi and Makiatto. We most likely will see another rise on Clukay and Vector banner.
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>>1662729
Yikes!
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>>1662600
It's still true considering when it was developed for CN, they manage to reach this level of 3D modeling with their fund from GFL1 and Neural Cloud that barely reach 1 million a month.
If you don't want to compare it to open world action games, then compare it to HSR that was funded by Genshin money.
Even back then, people who tried Neural Cloud would've notice that Mica is actually rather competent in the programming department. Neural Cloud gotta be one of the smoothest gacha to run and it has nearly perfect QoL. I actually start to feel mad toward AK with how they almost never make any QoL improvement despite their success and revenue.
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>>1662753
The problem is, Wuwa has good looking male NPCs too. I don't have to be a gooner to see that ZZZ guy looks shit.
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>>1662747
>hoyo no longer has designers who understand anime designs
meanwhile NIKKE gets your point.
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Why the fuck do I keep seeing retards call Ananta "anime gta" when it's way more comparable to anime spider-man? Are they blind?
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>>1662207
Capitano died for this...
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>>1662747
>Open side
>But no sideboob or even armpit exposure
>Something about the upper arm looks odd to me
It's just neither memorable or horny. It's not really a bad design but it's definitely not a good one.
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>>1662798
Those padded straight shoulders annoy the shit out of me, makes her look too square with how she has stick figure limbs too.
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>>1662803
Yeah that's probably what it is now that you point it out. I knew something looked a little off.
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>>1662789
There are a few clips of you being able to get into cars on the road that people were in
That's it, that's what gta is to them
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>>1662781
Eh how is that not a bland NPC design
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>>1662755
>Zani poster is a c/u/ck
What a surprise....
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>>1662781
Why do you lower the graphics? Why are playing with controller? and why the screenshot is on 720p? wuwajeets not beating the third-world allegations
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>>1662819
>>1662822
Retard
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>>1662781
That blonde faggot looks more manly than the MC KEK
>>1662747
Soulless slop
>>1662782
AI generated slop
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>>1662823
Don't worry anon, liking yuri and being brown is a very common trait among third world people, maybe if you shill harder you can buy something to play WuWa at 1080p in minimum settings KEK
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>>1662830
>KEK
Oh, you're the retard that doesn't even know how to read, LMAO >>1662090
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>>1662822
Not my screenshot, that's why. Not at home, I only have a better one of him there, so I downloaded the first one I found.
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>>1662747
Even BA's underage characters are allowed to show armpits lmao
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>>1662605
don't tell me you fell for the "gfl is serious and not a coomer game" meme. GFL1 and even neural cloud the mixed toilet has a bunch of coomer designs and skins. If anything, GFL2 betrayed tradition by making it safe horny in the beginning.
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>>1662523
Thank you for your sacrifice, won't play your game though.
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>>1662523
Multiple things were happening at the same time. Genshin's increasingly trend of shipbaits and faggy community, GFL's drama, Snowbreak played its last hand at the right time,...
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>>1662777
>I actually start to feel mad toward AK with how they almost never make any QoL improvement despite their success and revenue.
They're the most Korea-like company from China. It's really a soulless company where they mostly put their money in marketing/advertisment or to make new games.
Don't get me wrong, I think it's the logical approach for a company. But holy shit, it's really soulless.
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>>1662869
b-but the login screen was a bunch of old men that one time! the real players are only there for the story!! gfl1 is NOT a coomer game!!!!
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>>1662869
The problem is that GFL1 clearly bet more on story than fanservice, basically taking the opposite route of Azur Lane. Their coomer skins are practically unheard of compared whatever Azur Lane shits out
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>CTRL+F h*yo
>52 results
>CTRL+F w*wa
>30 results
>CTRL+F genshi*
>50 results
>CTRL+F zz*
>31 results
Hoyo won!
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>>1662902
that's not even true until more recently. GFL has never been afraid to show panties, azur lane is mostly just no-pan design so they don't have to show anything at all, you can use your imagination. Also in the beginning Azur Lane was super safe horny, and GFL1 had pantyshots from the beginning, and never stopped adding them. Picrel one of the earliest characters in GFL1, you still rarely see stuff like this in Azur Lane, they would put a convenient object blocking her ass.
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>>1662917
Dramasisters?! are we mindbroken?!
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>>1662917
>WuWa
>Hoyo
Retard
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>>1662919
>Talking out of his ass
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>>1662926
latest character in azur lane that proves my point, why do retards reply when they're ignorant on the subject
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>I actually love how everyone, even the playable characters looks like NPCs, instead of the devs bringing the NPC quality up, it gives me a better immersion
You ZZZ players will suffer the same fate as the other two hoyo games if you let this mindset continue...
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>>1662929
>why do retards reply when they're ignorant on the subject
Enough about yourself.
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>>1662929
this is so standards these days it might as well be safehorny
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>>1662934
Why not post Duisburg?
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>>1662935
You don't need to samefagging, retard bro. Just answer this guy>>1662934 .
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>>1662929
>"nopan"
>"ass too fat"
they keep making excuses it's tiring
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>>1662937
I'm just answering that guy "super safe horny in beginning" allegation.
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>>1662938
>samefagging
lol look a panty, that is sooo coomer bruh ong *skull*
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>>1662934
>ugly sarushit design
you found like the 1 out of 3 pantyshots, you do realize i actually play the game, 95% of the designs are no-pan shit, or covered pantyshots. The fact that you showed an ugly old ass pic means you don't play, i could find better. picrel from the current event
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>>1662946
>No argument
Kek.
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>>1662947
>you don't play
Like I've said. Enough about yourself.
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>>1662935
>standard
>virtually every game uses spats
I wish that were true, but pantsu is still verboten, why do you think snowbreak gets so much flak
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>>1662917
>people are discussing the largest most popular games
who would have thought?
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>>1662958
>discussing
Ha.
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>>1662958
>discussing
Seething impotently about*
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>>1662953
>Replying to shitposter
But I agree. It's crazy that "male-gazey" design for games is a sin now.
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>>1662953
only under ching chong CCP rules
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>>1662580
Did they add lobby secretary other than non-interactive Groza? It feels fucking soulless and the dormitory is just shit, a reason why I quit. I guess I'm just used to 2018 gacha or something.
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>>1662969
>only under ching chong CCP rules
JRPG and anime are also getting the censorship outside of intentional fanservices like swimsuit.
Falcom is an exception however.
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>>1662973
>Falcom is an exception however.
Their models are all ugly and outdated, plus they don't even make any games anymore besides the haha series and boring recycled button mashing action rpg so no one cares about them.
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>>1662919
>Also in the beginning Azur Lane was super safe horny, and GFL1 had pantyshots from the beginning, and never stopped adding them
I wish Raymond was fucking real and made to the final version, GFLtrannies really live in another dimension
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[BREAKING NEWS]
the characters chinatsu ramiel from virtual idols faction in ZZZ is registered as male_avatar according to data mining.
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Factions were a mistake.
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>>1663037
da fuck
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>>1663041
First furGODS won and now even trapGODS win
ZZZ is so goddamn back
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>>1663037
Why are you here
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This is how a real coomer game looks like
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installed snowpeak
dw guys, I'll singlehandedly save this game from eos
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I will now reinstall Genshin.
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>>1663044
Yeah, now I actually regret not playing the game
The furry girl design definitely clicked for me
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>>1663068
I will pick up the game if the trap is confirmed
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>>1663066
The fuck is this avatar shit, can they just do normal stream like AL did with Mafia?
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People start noticing the lack of promotion for Genshin lately. What do you think?
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9442464202
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>>1663082
>roccia pfp
>gayest post known to mankind
huh?
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>>1663081
Considering that from this part of the world genshin uses mostly twitter, then we can't tell, but I guess CN can
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>>1663081
They can no longer milk their fanbase.
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should add lap pillows if they wanna call themselves waifu gaymes
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Can someone tell me what happened to Priconne (JP)?
It's been years since I've heard anything about it.
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>>1663104
last I heard about it was last year and how they introduced elemental attributes to characters/enemies, retroactively nerfing most characters since now you have to develop more teams rather than just magical/physical split, that just pissed people off
That and the region-lock enforced on DMM made it a hassle for anyone outside Japan to play
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>>1662194
>Message Briefing
This week, Fenny is eager to show everyone the three-minute quick double ponytail technique she learned on a beauty variety show. Almost anyone with a bit of hair length can't escape her teaching, even the stoic Lyfe...
However, her excuse for being late to the afternoon meeting was that it took her extra time to tie her hair, so it seems the practicality of this technique is not very high.

The one you posted is a photoshopped version that snowbreak's chink haters used during the game's last anniversary 6 months ago. It's popping up again because Snowbreak's latest version dropped with the most pandering story yet and chinks are getting riled up because it has no drama.
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>L - leave snowbreak alone...
LOL
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Sorry, I forgot this is a thread for schizos to fling shit and who don't care about the truth, my mistake. Carry on.
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>>1663115
>>1663118
You should've left it alone since no one biting their bait they had to reply to their own bait posts.
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>>1662304
It went down. To be fair Nikki's a solid game it's pretty polished and all. Just don't expect to make any money with it.
>>1662917
Weirdly theres like no BA news here but if you go by 4stats the most active general is all BA threads (not Hoyo or Kuro).
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>>1663142
Meant to reply to >>1662958
>people are discussing the largest most popular games
That's BA
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>>1663142
It's not chinese so it doesn't touch the schizos here
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https://tiebac.baidu.com/p/9443818139

The doxxing is getting out of control.
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How will kuro answer?
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>>1663161
Why do you have homo art on your computer?
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>>1663161
Why is Lancer blushing?
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>>1663161
kek
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>>1663161
me in the bottom right
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>[BREAKING NEWS]
If your game turned to shit in this period of time, you know who's to blame.
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>>1662949
looks like shit
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>>1663165
there’s nothing slightly homosexual in the game so they need to find fanart
example >>1662695
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>>1663161
We will have to wait until we reach the japan nation, but I feel that wuwa will definitely do the same thing
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>>1663161
Solon will have a answer once we reach not!Japan
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>>1663161
>Kuro is more cucked than Mihoyo
Impressive, but I am 100% Branto will save Kuro the next patch, just look how many likes he got on twitter
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>he is still replying to himself
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They want Kazuha back
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No wonder gender war is so big in CN gacha scene
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HSR just split its New Year Party Stream into 3 parts and requires you to watch all of them for at least 1 min to get 300 gems.
GI stream used to be better than this but unfortunately they cancelled the NY Stream for that game.
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=43122406
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I unironically love reading normalfags meltdown on X about the current state of genshin
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>>1663359
It is pretty fun. Especially if it's over something comparatively tame like that Citlali image or this new onsen one.
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>>1663230
Apparently late 2.X patches will be Septimont city state of Rinascita, which will be Rome based. So they don't necessarily have to wait until NotJapan, they just have to realize romans liked bathhouses too and add one.
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>>1663349
>30
Grim. Women are already expired at that age.
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>>1663364
>they just have to realize romans liked bathhouses
Don't worry, HSR 3.0 has them so Im sure Kuro noticed
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You probably remember that Dawei said MHY paid 1 billion yuan in tax recently.
However, MHY has a contract with the Shanghai government to pay 10 billion yuan in tax over a three-year period (2023–2025) in exchange for the privilege of buying land for their new office at a lower price.
Whether MHY will receive a penalty if they fail to fulfill the contract is being speculated by Chinese gamers
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>>1663369
Some netizens went to check out the building.
One year has passed, and the progress of the building's construction does not seem to have changed much.
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>>1663364
>Rome based
Based
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>>1663369
>>1663370
>Chinese real estate
Oh they're fucked. Zero chance the government didn't scam them with that lmao
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>>1663369
Will ZZZ be enough to fund this?
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>>1663374
They bought the land to build the office by themselves, not buying the office built by the government.
Also it's goddamn Shanghai land so they got a sweet sweet deal for this (if they can fulfill the contract of course).
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>>1663348
Back then we got fucking sick of Kazuha because mihomo pushed him way too hard, but honestly I also miss him
He is way better than anyone post-inazuma
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>>1663375
I think ZZZ could be that failure dawei spoke about during his speech
>On January 21, the Shanghai Observer reported that the Xuhui delegation of the 16th Shanghai Municipal People's Congress held a plenary meeting on the afternoon of January 15. Liu Wei, the founder of miHoYo, said that for state-owned assets, investment should not be based on the success or failure of a single project, but on the overall long-term rate of return, and there should be a certain fault tolerance mechanism.
>investment should not be based on the success or failure of a single project
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>>1663377
/gig/ hates kazuha cause fischl/mona gave him a fella during 2.8 and the entire liyue women wet themselves during 3.6
but he's just a chill dude
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>>1663359
>Attract otaku male fanbase with designs like Mona/Fischll/Noelle/Barbara at the beginning
>Do very well
>Then give them the middle finger by shipping the characters, self censorship (only for female charcters) and going for the normalfag audience
>Otaku audience leaves
>....
>Attract normalfag/tumblr fanbase by censoring female characters, sidelining the MC, one year of only male characters and shitting on the otaku fanbase
>Still do well but no like in the beginning
>Then try to recapture the otaku fanbase by releasing fanservice that obviously you know are gonna piss off the normalfag fanbase
>The otaku fanbase doesn't bite the bait because they think you are the "normalfag cuck faggot company" and the normalfag fanbase fuck off because they think you are a "incel gooner company"
1000 IQ move
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>>1663359
I honestly dont know why would anyone sane would cheer for this.
If they can betray one side they could always betray the other side you know (they already did btw)
And just fucking look at HSR right now, are you sure GI wont be like that next year? Not even NGA thought this is a good move from MHY
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>>1663379
Yeah such chill dude, we need more more characters like him to show those /gig/ troons, am I right sisters?
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Seems like 仙家军 (MHY affiliated doxxing group) has connection with MHY after all.
No wonder they aren't afraid of the police thanks to MHY's backing
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>>1663386
Compared to Scara? Yea he's just a chill dude. Not even CN schizos hate him
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>>1663381
surely no one is stupid enough to fall for Mihoyo's bait
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>>1663369
When your assets exceed your liabilities and the forecast was not correct, they wanted to expand very quickly into the industrial sector but impatiently.

ZZZ players better be preparing for quadruple banner because they are going to be squeezed to death, the inmobiliary sector in CN is very screwed
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Perfect World employee had enough and just exposed everything.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9444311199
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>>1663391
lmao two more weeks
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>>1663392
not looking good for NTE.
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Today in China it is the 26th, that means the 1 year after obtaining the license of Azur Promilia is over
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>>1663359
>How it started
>Shitaine
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>>1663381
>anyone sane would cheer for this.
I cheer and applaud it women collectively made it their holy mission to invade men spaces and conquer this is only karma.
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>>1663392
NTEsisters...
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>>1663376
"real estate" entails more than just buildings, land counts too. And I'm referring to how completely fucked their entire real estate market is. It's hyper inflated in some places and utterly valueless in others. There's no telling if they got an actual good deal out of them or got scammed, but if they're having trouble paying their 10 million in taxes I already don't think it was a good investment to begin with. Hell, I think 2023 was back when that market was at its worst. Even if they got a good discount on it they may not have actually gotten a good deal at the end of the day.
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>>1663402
looking at this statistic >>1663349 I feel like they have more than enough free time in the world to make some troubles
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>>1663389
He's easily the third worst thing after Scara and Neuvilette, his entire story is a massive pity party that tries to portray him like he's a literal saint, always in the right, any flak he gets is unfair victimization, and he's completely unbothered by any of it acting all humble while getting sucked off for things he didn't do or deserve.
His entire character is that he gets preferential treatment, and he's humble-bragging about it 24/7
This character is meant to appeal to dindu nuffin twitter joggers, I pity you If you actually mean what you said and not just trolling.
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Genshin and hsr fanbases is the worst thing that happened to gacha games kek
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>>1663409
why did you leave out wuwa?
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>>1663411
Wuwa just inherited Hoyo's Womxn.
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>>1663409
Women the worst thing that happened to gacha games
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>>1663412
same as HSR then
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>>1663409
They did the same thing over that Citlali image. They're so pissy.
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>>1663409
Imagine losing your shit over a jpg because hoyo is too lazy to animated it.
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>>1663407
If Furina was a man and Kazuha was a woman you would said Furina is the 3rd worst thing
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>>1663409
Kinda pathetic ngl
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>>1663419
That's because she is the 4th worst thing.
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Chance MHY would steal wedding dress for Genshin like Snowbreak/PGR?
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>>1663419
>If Furina was a man
She wouldn't exist then her only purpose was to elevate and shill Neuvilette.
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>>1663424
nah she would die for femvillette like current xbalanque
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>>1663422
After the drama associated with them from Hi3? Not a chance.
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>>1663427
that was bunny suit
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>>1663409
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>>1663428
>CN gets the wedding skins
>Global gets bunny suits
>haha CN look at your new brides cucking you with bunny suits for us
>sperg out
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>>1663426
>like current xbalanque
Good women deserve it.
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>>1663430
/bag/gots are so based...
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>>1663392
Well there goes Ananta's only real competition.
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>>1663430
kek, Hoyotards deserve this and more
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Honestly how do you even get into a position to manage one of these big games? I feel like a random guy off the street could do better than some of these people, it makes me wonder how the guys on top got there. Something tells me they don't start out as the little coders or backroom writers.
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>NetEase's Thunderfire Studio announced that the new game 剑心雕龙 will redefine the buyout system, adapt to the "flexible buyout system" of different users.
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9444425659
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>>1663409
>>1663430
I honestly have never liked Aether, the twink is just ugly to look at, but it's funny how much he makes femcels seethe
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>>1663392
>Overtime for artist
They did overtime to design those AI slop characters? Hard to believe
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>>1663419
I take it anal worms gave you brain damage.
Furina is the literal opposite of Kazuha, the story goes out of its way to shit on her at every opportunity and remind everyone just how pathetic she is.
She gets the opposite of preferential treatment, if she was a man I'd just laugh about it
Thanks for confirming you're a homo shitposter btw, never expected any better from someone stupid enough to defend Kazuha lol
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>>1663386
man it was great when we finally got to see the MC interacting with all these characters and being the central focus in the story. idk why they went back to following that random npc and the floating kid that talks for him.
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>>1663443
>netease
feels like their reputation has only cratered since they fucked up their new mmo.
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>>1663473
Why would you think so?
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>>1663472
smarr indie company
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>>1663474
Well at least I know I shouldn't expect anything good for Ananta
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>>1663419
One of the worst, its only purpose was to make one feel sorry and reveal the entire history of Neuvilette, the hype for the archons collapsed because of that disgusting couple.
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>>1663472
grim asf
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>>1663473
I'm not sure, marvel rivalz is being a huge success and people are seeing netease with good eyes
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>>1663474
How strange hoyocucks always told me that in China there was no DEI
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>>1663419
>>1663421
>>1663486
>likes furina and neuvilette
low discernment, high empathy - the type to fall for every bait, probably a woman
>likes furina, hates neuvilette
high discernment, high empathy - a real human bean
>likes neuvilette, hates furina
low discernment, low empathy - a literal fucking nigger
>hates neuvilette and furina
high discernment, low empathy - egotistical belligerent subhuman, like a rabid dog that needs to be put down before it hurts someone
found at least 3 dogs itt
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>>1663507
thank you for confessing that you are a low IQ faggot who doesn't sit down and analyze
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>>1663523
you're not smart for treating a character like defective goods, if anything it's the opposite
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>>1663527
how Furina did in the rerun? and then look how nahida did in her first rerun, compared to her last rerun where mihoyo even promoted her as a "meta" but even then no one bought her, fontaine is a piece of crap that ruined past and future archons.
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>>1663532
>but the goods ARE damaged
spoken like a true egotistical subhuman, checks out
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>>1663430
damn, baggots don't hold back
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>>1663359
>i started genshin during wormeru starter pack
yep, womeru did irreparable damage to the game, luckily it's healing now
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>>1663380
Mihomo is really trying everything
The new hebe, Lan Yan, has huge tits compared to all the flatties of Fontaine, hell, even normalfags already noticed how big her boobs are
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how the fuck mihoyo fanbase is so fucking bad
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>>1663398
welp its official. china is still a paper tiger and gaming is dead
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>>1663442
It's always nepotism
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>>1663409
This is why yurinigger need to be kicked out of any non yuri games.
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>>1663473
Their recent activities with Marvel Rivals seems to be showing a turnaround. Apparently their monetization isn't bad at all and it's a fun game, so no fuckups so far. If they keep that up with Ananta and any other games they release they could easily muscle their way in with the top dogs in a few years time.
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>>1663597
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>>1663597
I remember they got showed off at some other conference of some kind in China before. I can't remember what it was but it was a similar situation of them being used as a benchmark or something by some tech people. May have even been Samsung again. Apparently they got quite a bit of interest from it too. Kuro seems good at socializing.
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>>1663599
I remember two of them. Apple showcased Wuwa too and Qualcomm was doing a presentation for mobile Frame Gen with Wuwa. Knew I still had an image of it somewhere
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>>1663595 (me)
Here's a good example. They've got a good direction going. Tells me they don't have many woman or at least many prudes gumming up the gears of their studio.
>Embrace people liking their sexy designs, even partnering with lewd/porn artists (The opposite of OW)
>Just let their designers go ham
>Profit and release lots of skins but don't pump the price like crazy
>Make the game fun
>Make sure streamers and shit can do all sorts of free advertising for you
That game alone has easily buried Overwatch now. There's no way Blizzard can come back from this with an opponent who's hammering them at every angle, and being able to do that to a studio like Blizzard is a huge achievement in and of itself even if it is the modern gimped Blizzard. If they learn their lesson from this and spread it around to all their other games they're set. The only thing I'm hesitant about is that Ananta is apparently developed with NetEase Montreal, and everyone knows how big of cucks Canadians are.
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>>1663472
The funniest thing is that it also still plays the standard music for those locations. So you can't even try to suspend your belief and image that you're inside some virtual reality space with Herta. Because you can literally just hear Belobog music playing, lol.
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>>1663605
I blame Sue Storm for the final nail to Overwatch.
Rivalz already got big traction from its release, but the absolute sex goddess design for Sue Storm got all the attention from internet.
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Whether a game is good or not depends on how may women are allowed to make decision related to the game.
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Genshin is just an old dated graphics game
they got lucky with covid ruined some of their goodwill with homo fujo shit and are now crawling back but it's pointless. The game is old and dated.
Don't think the good times last forever.
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>>1663658
They may have limited success recovering with their newer strategy but I'd agree they're on the decline now. They should be considering either how to update it or how to replace it in their repertoire or they're just going to get buried deeper as other companies try to replace them with varying success, either way I don't see Genshin having any upward inclination over the long term though.
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Gachashit in general is in decline, people aren't moving on to other projects, they are quitting the genre as a whole.
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>>1663663
Which is good, the quicker it goes back to being more niche is when we get content more directed toward us instead of normalfags.
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>>1663663
Looking forward to waste thousands on ananta and endfield
But comparing the graphics is night and day. I can't believe that mihomo didn't have the foresight to see that the good times wouldn't last and they splurged on nuclear reactors and hired all sorts of women employees and writers to destroy their product
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>>1663667
They were a small company that struck gold at the right time, mismanagement is a thing. I doubt anyone could have foresaw how much of a success Genshin would have turned out to be.
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>>1663392
Get back to work chang and finish my gacha
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>>1663667
Having such a large amount of money dumped on them out of nowhere like that really blinded them.
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>>1663657
this anon knows
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>>1663657
I'd say it's more of a cultural-marxism, post-modernism, femnism thing. Women were always in the industry, and those troons ruining games are men anyways, only now they are political activists first, and developers second. Picrel, asscreed used to be good, but women weren't actively trying to push agendas, at not least as hard as they do now.
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>>1663693
>women only made things 30% shit back then! they only added a little shit, it's ok!
There's no concession to give. Women are and have always been the problem.
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>>1663663
This is such a massive cope. FGO and many other gacha happily live forever earning good money, but as soon as Genshin and Hoyo is on a decline, "suddenly" the whole gacha industry is dying somehow. Maybe first ask why is there is a 30% or more decline of Genshin on one of their major markets every year, instead of trying to find ways how the gacha market is dying.
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>>1663693
What this anon says >>1663702
I still remember the Insomniac devs before the new Rachet was coming out and they said males had to argue hours on meeting with woman how the female Rachet should look, because the furry fuck having feminine characteristics was somehow bad. This is a topic that if there would have been only males in the room to make decisions, would have been solved in 2 minutes or less and they could have gone to talk about more important things.
Then look at what they become right after, when every sane person left and anyone who remained had to go to DEI trainings. I can understand woman working on games is fine, it is. Woman being in power to make decisions isn't.
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>>1663721
This becomes especially deranged when you find out that pic related is she was arguing against. Literally just a cute design reminiscent of Gadget.
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>>1663663
Maybe it's for the best. There's always a caveat attached with gachas and it's not even the monetization. It's getting really annoying.
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>>1663717
this is just as retarded because you're comparing a period before the nipsspend 30% more through the game app vs on their website to after
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>>1663724
Compare that with the final result she strongarmed them into. Male proportions, fat androgynous face, not even a hint of femininity. Even one woman is too many, they WILL turn your company to shit. Hoyo is finding this out the hard way.
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>>1663727
Robot arm is cool, but you would have to tell me that is a girl.
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>>1663726
How many times did that happen that Genshin had a 30% drop in the last 3 years, every year? I can understand one of them, but not 3 times in a row.
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>>1663717
It is also due to the fall of those who were leaders in mobile representation in CN.

for example, i don't know why people continue using IOS as if it were something important in CN when it has achieved its worst results since 2016 in the country, 2024 marked Apple's worst annual performance in China, its shipments decreased by 17% compared to the year previously with a drop of 25% in the fourth quarter, the revenue from Apple users in the country was consequently lower and i still see stupid people using arbitrary coefficients.

but the increase in Huawei and Xiaomi was exaggerated, so much so that Huawei (16.9%) and Xiaomi (14.7%) together represent a 31.6% global representative rate, and Apple fell to second place with 16.2% for only CN, Apple does not even appear in the top 5 at the end of 2024.
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>>1663731
>for example, i don't know why people continue using IOS as if it were something important in CN
Pretty sure because it is what it is, there is nothing else, since there is no actual data about android. They are working with what is available.
Though the image is specifically JP iOS sales to show it's not a CN only thing that revenue dipped, but yeah.
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>>1663732
>not important
>it's not in the top 5.
it's that simple, it's even more diffuse than android because at least you have the representative rate of the top 5 (huawei, xiaomi, Oppo, vivo, honor) but you don't have Apple's because it flew out so the coefficient is more arbitrary than when we knew it in 2020-2022 because Apple did appear, but people continue using the same coefficient as if it were something important like 2022, it is easy to understand
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>>1663736
Yeah, but as you see, that doesn't stop people to still use it to guesstimate CN revenue even without known iOS marketshare. They just continue using the 1.75-2,5 multiplier and job done.
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>>1663727
Don't forget the prosthetic for extra DEI points anon. That's important. They could have added it "because it's cool" like the other anon said but given who it is I highly doubt that.
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>>1662210
meanwhile waifuflop simulators are found dead in a ditch
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>>1663605
From the CBT dev streams they do have women but it's mostly just horny Chinese men (including that dude who modeled all the male asses)
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>>1663663
>Gachashit in general is in decline
According to the CN game industry report of 2024, anime game segment declined less than 10% compared to previous year, while mobile game in general grew 7%.
I would say it's not that gacha is dying, but the normal gamers just went back to their comfort zone.
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>>1663771
Year-by-year decline with higher budget anime gacha games coming up. What could go wrong?
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>>1663774
>normalfags account for less than 10% of total revenue
>more high-budget games for the players to choose from
>the current status quo will be broken, and lazy developers will be forced to start putting in effort.
There is absolutely ZERO downside to this.
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>>1663775
All is fun and games until decent quality games from middle-sized companies all flop and bankrupted their developers, and the only remaining ones are Mihoyo and Tencent.
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>>1663774
Nothing. You forgot the only one anxious is Hoyo, because they put their money in a lot of different places, not related to games and their income didn't or hardly grown when they gone from 2 to 3 games.
A Kuro Games will be fine forever, because the game costs at most 5 millions a month to maintain with the marketing they have. Endfield will be fine too, because they are not retards. Manjuu if they sort themselves out, will be fine too.
Hoyo with Genshin somehow made everyone believe their shitty live service game costs 100 million a year to make, when in reality a Wukong is being made by half of it under many years. These games costs nothing compared to what they make, Hoyo just had higher ambitions than only making games and so now they are fumbling a bit because they need the massive money, but there is no one to put the effort into the games.
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>>1663778
manjew and their shitty ass boat game has already survived for 6 years by selling skins
its impossible to kys unless you are being retarded on purpose like guilongchao faggots
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>>1663778
>mihoyo

Comparing mihoyo with Tencent is the stupidest thing I have ever seen in my life. In fact, Mihoyo, otherwise I remember, abandoned the representative top in 2024 and only Tencent and Netease remained.
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>>1663786
>>1663780
Nah, it's just a bad-case scenario. Which companies are more likely to EoS their games, anyway? How's Tencent and NetEase?
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>>1663788
Anon, Tencent owns most of the Top10 mobile games in chinkland. While the other games, they just have shares in them to AFK milk them like Kuro. Tencent is going nowhere, because they can take any kind of hits, there is nothing in their portfolio that could hit them so hard they somehow shit themselves.
And that mobile only, look at how internet cafe usually look like, do you see how many not Tencent games are in the top spots?
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>>1663791
Yes I know anon, that's why I said Tencent will be the few ones that will survive in said bad-case scenario. Do they never close down any game? Do you have the list of games they closed down?
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>>1663788
I feel that Tencent brought the remaining of Kuro because they really wanted their own genshin impact and they found it on Wuthering Waves
And not about revenue, but about having such big game in their catalog, which will only attract more players to their ecosystem, or prestige to their brand, idk
That's how I view it, anyway
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I know everyone hates Tencent but other devs could learn from them and stop trying to cater to everyone with a single game.
There's a reason why Tencent games barely affect each other in term of revenue despite sharing the new updates in short time span.
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>>1663795
They're so big they don't even care if games from different studios they own clash with each other. Riot Games' Wild Rift is a direct competition of TiMi's HoK.
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>>1663793
Tencent knows what to own, so they hardly shut down things. What shuts down is not theirs, but thinks they have shares in, but those are low stakes gambles. If it fails, no one cares, if it wins, they get a ton of money.
Look at Kuro, they had nearly half the shares through two company. Now that Wuwa is a success, they made sure Tencent main company owns all those shares instead, so the money can go directly to them, since Wuwa will bring in money. Any small fail they would get or gamble that lose, their big earners like HoK and LoL null and they just invest into the next thing that seems will make money.
Last time they shut down anything was an US based studio of theirs, but who knows why, maybe they foresaw that America will try to fuck with the chinks and dipped out of global expansion through studios locally instead.
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hello??? gacha???
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>>1663788
>>1663793
The only ones that keep EOSing are the japanese with their mobile slop
For example Square Enix last year closed like 3 or 4 of their games? Lmao
Without mentioning the absolute fiasco of Blue Protocol from Bandai
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>>1663798
The "Tencent owns majority of Kuro" thing is apparently a misinformation from random social media user that went viral.
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>>1663795
How much did you get paid for shilling Tencent in 4chan?
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>>1663803
same amount of money like Hoyoshill
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Tencent is mainly a publisher. Most of the games they release aren't fully theirs. Mihoyo is a developer and publisher of their own games. They are also a private company.
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>>1663802
That's why I said the Kuro part how I said. We have official message from Solon about Tencent, so it's not exactly misinformation, more like people blown it the fuck out of the water what is happening and how Tencent owns Kuro now. While reality is that Tencent just purchased up the shares of Hero Games (who they also own) so the main Tencent company can have all their shares there instead. But Solon said they talked with Tencent, since it is still a majority share and Tencent wouldn't interfere with whatever they do, they want the money. Image related, this is what mods posted on the wuwa reddit.
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>>1663804
I don't know about that. I just noticed that there's always someone that dick riding tencent in this kind of thread.
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>>1663803
5 america dollar gift card saar just write five bloody sentence or more you get too saar
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>>1663663
Seasun is the only smart one. While others are trying to enter the gacha market, they've been gearing up to abandon Snowbreak for MechaBreak.
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>>1663814
You don't need to be this defensive, slanted eyes anon. It's just obvious when you bring out tencent unprompted in this gacha thread.
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>>1663810
Kek. You really got him. It's just funny that he's always like "who cares about [insert gacha devs]. Look at this glorious tencent"!
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>>1662617
>actually became hot topic on tieba
it's orge for NetEase
https://tieba.baidu.com/hottopic/browse/hottopic?topic_id=28338468&topic_name=%E7%87%95%E4%BA%91%E6%A0%87%E6%A6%9C%E5%A5%B3%E6%80%A7%E5%8F%8B%E5%A5%BD%E9%81%AD%E5%8F%8D%E5%99%AC
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>>1663795
I remember Blizzard talking about this too. They didn't want their games to compete with eachother so they were all from different genres. Shame they were destroyed from the inside.
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>>1663917
Dumb ass teammates are more destructive than formidable opponents all of the time
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>>1663922
Meh. Faceless MC are the best
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why doesnt genshin do this?
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They can't move on
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>>1664010
this is why I will never play a mixed toilet game
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What's their problem with Snowbreak?
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>went from #38 peak to #150 the next banner
oof
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>>1664056
that's more than enough to fund GFL3 !
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>>1664059
Bakery 2*
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>>1663995
they'd rather flop apparently
looking forward to the sales because flopsaar's shower teaser cut zzz's already poor sales by half.kek
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>>1664056
Isn't it the NTR girl's banner right now? It's ironic
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>>1664056
>will still outlive your favorite gacha
well, it works
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>>1664056
Shouldn't have made that weird Autochess clone.
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>>1664056
no one wants used goods
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>>1664015
Game doubles down on ML themes so every woman and hoyofag in 6378 km radius gets a panic attack
I don't really get it since the game poses no threat to anyone but maybe Im wrong since Kuro more or less copied Lyfe's wedding scene
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>>1664056
>the series that can live on 70k a month is only at top 150
zzzzzz
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>>1664056
Why snoggers insist on stalking MICA like it's their ex boyfriend?
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>>1664094
It happened at the right time when games were copying Hoyo's fujo pandering and also saved Snowbreak from EOS ruining their narrative that fanservice doesn't sell.
There were even a lot of people saying how every game going for the male audience afterwards "was going the Snowbreak route" like how these women are doing in these posts. They hate it for pointing out something that was obvious to anyone with a brain.
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uh oh we got linked on /vg/ and now those "people" are having a melty
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>Few calm posts
>a melty
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>>1664103
next time don't delete your post like a bitch
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>>1664105
that was clearly a janny deleting the post for brigading
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>>1664056
This series was never big not even in china, the fact that it got as much attention as it did despite being incredibly barebones is nothing short of a miracle
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why do you subhuman niggers make threads on here instead of kiwifarms or wherever you cockroaches come from?
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>>1664102
snowshit flopped
if companies wanted money they'd copy LADS not your dead waifuflop simulator
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>>1664125
You tell them sis!
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Moyjo games all flopped hard on their last updates
What can we learn from that?
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>>1664136
snoggers sabotaged our guy /dawei/
I hate them so much it's unreal
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how come arknights doesn’t attract mentally ill people
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>>1664138
They did.
Before hoyo "tasteful" vs wuwa/snog fanservice, it was arknights "tasteful" vs hoyo/AL fanservice.
Who do you think were responsible for AL 2021 censorship wave?
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>>1664136
Clearly they need to return to pandering to women. Or add a skip button so people won't have to sit though up to 8 hours of slop that still can't be bothered to have more than 3 talking animations.
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>>1664136
I thought Genshin did well considering how badly they'd been doing recently?
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>>1664136
>genshit died during the year of femorrhoids
>the gross fireflop shilling killed shart rail
>zzz is dead despite shitting out 7 femorrhoids in a row
pandering to waifutroons alienates everyone else
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>>1664149
the archon + her bis support sold less than the dps she powercrept but it's still going to be 5.x's best banner, which is grim because said dps was only the 4th best banner in 4.x
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>>1664150
Sensor Tower stopped counting during Firefly's release. Another reason to ignore those made up numbers.
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>>1664155
fireflop charted worse than solo banners in 1.x despite getting a massive shill campaign in and out of the game
hsr's average sales also took a nosedive directly after fireflop's banner and never recovered
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>>1664138
You are lucky most of you are newfags that weren't here before genshit existed.
CN Arkniggers were the old genshitters/snoggers of that side of the firewall before 2020.
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>>1664136
>Moyjo games all flopped hard
oh no! they only did gorillion dollars!
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>>1664173
>t-the budget cuts aren't real haha...
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>>1664173
>Lower sales on every metrics, be it Sensor or JP Game-i
>Players notice more and more repeated minigames and less content, more filler
>No EN voice acting due to strikes and unlike with CN before, they didn't find placeholder replacements because people eat it up like this too and cheaper
>No CN new years for Genshin
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>>1664138
Big brain gameplay and story easily filter out hoyoturds.
Unironic post btw.
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>>1664243
Deploying latest Limited unit sure must be hard work.
Unironic post btw.
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>>1663717
FGO is definitely on decline
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>>1664056
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>1664307
Nothing is on top forever, but look at it this way. JP, FGO peak was 90M and now it does 40M. The average month was at 40M then, now it's 20M. It did halved, but it halved under 5 years. I would count a yearly 10%~ decline natural after a peak. Compare that to how Genshin lose 30-50% a year. That's not anywhere close to natural decline.
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>>1664125
>they'd copy LADS
You mean the game that is dead everywhere but CN that only performs well in the fake charts with fake ass 5x boost?
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>>1664125
>they'd copy LADS
and yet they don't, they all stopped adding worms, and made the game lewder, maybe every corporation is allergic to money?
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>>1664307
How did they do it?
No other gacha so far has managed to dethrone the king
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>>1664376
The only FGO killer are the writers. They keep slow rolling the story and people get tired of it.
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>>1664136
It's too late for them to crawl out of the hole they dig for themselves so the only logical choice is to dig deeper. Back to animating bulge and balls.
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>>1664383
i don't play, is she supposed to be for (You) or something? I thought HSR was fujo/troon containment?
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>>1664391
Herta is shipbait with Ruan Mei iirc, pretty sure Ruan Mei use to be sorta "for (you)" but its a hoyo game, what do you expect.
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>>1664376
Probably the most profitable too. I sincerely doubt they use more than $10000 whenever they add new content to the game.
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>>1664391
She's like an old old scientist super genius that discovered a way to become youthful forever among other plot relevant things that I won't spoil plus she has an army of child sized dolls that do her biding
She's kind of a big deal but not really because the game starts at her research station but we've never seen her in person before plus the plot was all over the place (still is)
So no she was never a for (You) character
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>>1664108
>This series was never big not even in china
It used to be bigger than AL series in China.
>despite being incredibly barebones
so why are we hyping up barebones games like this? Bareboneshit shouldn't even be getting any attention at all or else the devs just get complacent. Look at Astra a perfect example of devs getting too comfortable and letting the game go down the drain.
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>>1664433
Tell me the lore about Astra
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>>1664445
i play ZZZ I honestly don't know what's going on with that character, one day she's flirting with you in some dialogues but all she has in her head is how she wants to be with evelyn at the end of the day i feel like she's not a character for me, she's a character worthy of being written by a yumejo.

she's just like that friendly girl who you think cares about you and generates an illusion of interest but at the end of the day you misunderstood her because in her head she thinks of someone else, some people at ZZZ will deny you for a stupid PV trailer that in the end means nothing, if the character is so divisive in the story
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>>1664433
The first big CN gacha was Arknights.
Anything before it can't be considered big.
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>>1664433
>It used to be bigger than AL series in China
I've seen this posted a few times, and I've never seen any proof of it that wasn't ONE singular month where they made more, and it was the month they released in Japan 2 years late.
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>>1664459
Hoyo is just arrogant and knows that they can do anything they want and will keep getting millions and millions, the brand it's just stupidly powerful
For example Wuwa put a lot of effort into the 2.0 and Carlotta, only for Astra come out and earn more than the whole banner of Carlotta in one single day

So, why put the effort? I wouldn't do it either if I were in Hoyo's situation
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>>1664459
You can't even trust their promotional material at this point, it's all bait and switch.
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ananta character concept that was later scrapped
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>>1664484
wow
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Ananta is DoA
NTE is DoA
no one knows about Wang Yue

GTA Impact won't be a thing
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Me and my waifu on our way to rob the nearest bank!
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>>1664460
If by big you mean normalfag core then yeah.
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>>1664484
Not that bad. I dig the giant fucking hammer thing.
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>>1664484
Wrong thread anon.
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>>1664465
It's arknots for post-coov(read: genshit) audience, wdy expect?
Plus their png game is already making FGO tier money each month anyway so endfield flopping shouldn't be an issue for them.
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>>1664495
Judging from the quantity/quality of the assets Ananta is well above the others (Ananta>Wangyue>NTE). Shame the character designs look nothing interesting compared to Mihoyo. They are mostly just so-so.
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>>1664529
Yeah, that's exactly what I meant.
Anything below that might as well not matter.
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[SAD NEWS] Unknown force is mass down voting Snowpeak
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>>1664541
Is this what women cream themselves over?
The guys all look the same just with different hair
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>>1664555
>get the members of their biggest board doxxed
>now get downvoated into oblivion
If it was any other fanbase, I would call this retardation. But karma is too much of a beautiful thing.
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>>1664570
Every chink schizo faction act the same but when it's snowbreak it's a karma
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>>1664547
Indeed arknights is down there with the rest of normalfag games when it comes to cultural impact, there's nothing below them.
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>>1664541
>hello slop department?
not complaining though, i'm glad all the effort goes into designing females, moids should not be pandered to.
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>>1664577
you can tell he's a hoyoturd and proud of it
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>>1664564
Have you ever see kpop boys? Reality's not that different.
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>>1664564
Have you seen anime girls
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>>1664579
what effort tranny? half the bitches wear the same chinkdress lmao
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>>1664370
>and yet they don't
which is why they're flopping left and right
femorrhoid flops kill games and not even the biggest gacha in the world is immune to this lole
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>>1664579
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Glad to see he's back. Did he get another fund on CNY now to further his campaign?
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>>1664629
Or maybe xhe finally finished HSR 3.0
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>>1664056
LOL
and just two threads ago they were smugly bragging about their cuck game btfoing snowpeak
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I play GFL for the story
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>>1664646
A certain NPC's wife is the current banner, i think it scared away anyone who isn't into voluntary infidelity.
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>>1664056
I've been playing GFL2 since its release on GL and I think that the main problem is this:

1.repetitive game
2.i don't know why they clutter the game with tasks and events that casual players can't do due to the level of their characters.
3.the second point makes the game seem like a work routine and the bedroom is only fun if you buy skins.
4.since the emotional value of the game is only behind the skins, there is practically nothing left to tie you to the game because the gameplay gets old very quickly.
5.the game has a 50/50 banner but in my opinion if they want the players to buy skins then why are you poisoning the game with a 50/50 banner on both weapons and characters?
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>>1664667
>same fate as Blue Reflection Sun
Same fate as every japanese gacha.
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>>1664667
EoS for japanese version when
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>>1664667
it's so fucking over
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why is it so rare for hoyogames to get some tiktok hours now?
mxz keep using accuse that tiktok is getting bigger but that didnt stop any of these shitty ass game to get on top easily
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>>1664672
Didn't Mihoyo revenue get cut by half in just one year?
If that happens this year as well we'll be talking about EoS next year.
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>>1664660
hoyo rates are one of the most common complaints from people interested in gacha, they really fumbled it by following the exact recipe 1:1 the other controversies didn't help
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>>1664660
Is this a shillbot post? kek
Literallly every single gacha is repetitive and daily/weekly/monthly activities always feel like a chore because they are specifically designed this way to keep players "engaged"
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>>1664673
MHY has never EoS'd any of their games. They are the opposite of JP companies
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>>1664676
nta, but i find many gachas ditching the chores, and adding sweep features, removing stamina/resin like features, and letting players just do random fun stuff, more like a themepark. Not all of us want to farm artifacts all day.
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>>1664672
>>1664150
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>>1664676

GFL2 clutters the game with tedious tasks just to farm the currency, the problem is that I feel like it's a job, it's similar to the current events of HSR 3.0, a game that i abandoned for the same reason, they don't even make it fun
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>>1664660
Did you really believe that this game flops in CN only because of Raymond?

the players are not so trivial no matter how schizophrenic they were, in fact in CN the experience was a thousand times worse because at least GL was release with all QQL that we demand of them in CN
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>>1664694
I complained about the daily guild stuff on discord, but the fanboys are all defending the daily chores. without guild stuff, GFL2 dailies take like 3 minutes MAX. with guild stuff, it's 15 minutes at least.
GFL2 challenge stages are really fun and challenging and I'm enjoying them, but I really hate the daily guild stuff. Once I'm done with all the challenge, I'll just play passively while reading the story every update.
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>>1664675
This is taken from smartphone, right? There's no way they can make boobs unappealing like this.
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>>1664675
nice uniboob
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>>1664667
>Pandering to CGDCT crowd and female
>EoS
Manjuu... This will be AP fate if you don't make it harem story.
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Players are quitting Wuwa to go play Azur Promilia. Will Manjuu be able to take advantage of this or will they fuck up again?
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>>1664703
AP will never be released
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>>1664703
Sisters nooo...
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Completely unrelated but can anyone access DeepSeek? How good is it at translating CN compared to chatgpt and copilot?
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>>1664708
You will never have good translation quality for CN because of how many homonyms, slangs and references they use.
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>>1664703
>quitting wuwa to play a game that will likely not release this year
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>>1664708
Go ask /vn/.
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>>1664703
It's 50/50. But I'm coping that AP is delayed because they are changing their direction and need to overhaul their content.
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>>1664697
all waifuflop simulators are flopping in china
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>>1664712
>changing their direction
To where?
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>>1664675
Holy sag.

They are really trying to make her look sexy but nah, that looks bland mainly because there is no shadow to emphasize the cleavage. It's amazing how bad it looks like Dehya's butt.

The skin at least put some shadow under the two pearls but still funny that the shadow disappear past that.

That patch of black censor cleavage doesn't help it.
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>>1664712
Trust in Manjuu. They put a reference to "don't play if ther are male characters" movement in their shirt. Or at least I assume that's a reference.
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What I've realized after years of looking at this industry is that, in general, pandering to men is an impossible task, no matter how coomer a game is we'll get bored if the gameplay is stale and uninteresting or as soon as something more interesting shows up, much less likely to bitch and make a fuss on social media and more likely to dip quietly, plus better impulse control so as soon as we feel a developer has abandoned us we are unlikely to spend again.

Shitbrained femoids only like one or two things and have no interest in the actual game aspect or any impulse control, just some simple pandering and they start drooling and swinging their hips in oblivious consumeristic bliss. The downside is that, while they are much easier than men to farm, they have a lot less money overall and are less likely to try new things, so making a game pandering to them is a huge gamble.
I wonder if anyone's going to try and tap into that market following LAD's relative success.
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>>1664722
I don't think there will be any good chinese gachas copying Snowbreak or LADS anytime soon, if ever.

It takes about four years to make a high quality gacha game. If you want to make a ML game from looking at LADS or Snowbreak success, it would take you until 2028 or even 2029 to release it, by that time the market will be very different and probably very dead.
Another thing is that investors have all fled from the industry. You won't be able to get any investment, so you'd need to fund the game with your own money which not exactly many companies will be willing to do.
And last problem is most employees don't know how to do ML content, proven by looking at the flipflopping tame ML that mixed toilets are doing right now. The ones who know how to do it have basically been poached by either Seasun or Infold Games, with the scraps probably picked up by Manjuu.

So if you want a high quality pandering game you either play Snowbreak, LADS, or hope AP is a ML game now, because there won't be nothing else in the market coming out of China.
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>>1664722
waifutroons are simply too broke to spend so they bitch about everything to pin the blame on the game instead
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>>1664722
I would even say that gameplay has to be very simple if you want women to play. They are generally worse players and can't handle anything too complex. I wonder how many of them even touched abyss.
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>>1664714
Harem direction. The trailer has CGDCT vibe and not boy meets girl(s) vibe. Heck, I think Female MC is the canon MC from the trailer (cuddling griffin, needs to be saved by the elf).
>>1664719
I trust Chinese more than manjuu, lol. I hope that the decision makers are the same person with the AL one, because they're always caving to Chinese players demand.
>They put a reference to "don't play if ther are male characters" movement in their shirt
This is the first time I've heard about this.
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>>1664736
Basically it's a movement that started because chinese got tired of having their gacha games get fucked by women, so they went scorched earth and refused to play any game that's not ML and that has male playable characters outside MC. It's basically the reason every mixed toilet is only releasing girls now. pic related is their symbol.
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>>1664056
You schizos kept screaming how open world is dead and we need simpler games like in the good old days.
Here's your simple game, not happy?
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>>1664736(me)
>>1664719
Oh wait. Is it that thumbs up emoji? Well, I'm not Chinese, so I don't know whether it's coincidence or it's secret code.
Honestly though, I'll still play AP even if it starts as an omni pandering game. Because they'll 100% change their direction after AP failed. Even Genshin forced to do this >>1664010
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>>1664675
>Losing to a small Korean company
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>>1664743
KR cant make a good model
They simply just cant
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>>1664743
>rocket hairpin
Pretty good, actually.
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>>1664681
>ditching the chores, and adding sweep features, removing stamina/resin like features and letting players just do random fun stuff,
>posts AL
the biggest irony of them all
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>>1664719
This is some next level schizophrenia
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动态网自由门 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Free Tibet 六四天安門事件 The Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 天安門大屠殺 The Tiananmen Square Massacre 反右派鬥爭 The Anti-Rightist Struggle 大躍進政策 The Great Leap Forward 文化大革命 The Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution 人權 Human Rights 民運 Democratization 自由 Freedom 獨立 Independence 多黨制 Multi-party system 台灣 臺灣 Taiwan Formosa 中華民國 Republic of China 西藏 土伯特 唐古特 Tibet 達賴喇嘛 Dalai Lama 法輪功 Falun Dafa 新疆維吾爾自治區 The Xinjiang Uyghur Autonomous Region 諾貝爾和平獎 Nobel Peace Prize 劉暁波 Liu Xiaobo 民主 言論 思想 反共 反革命 抗議 運動 騷亂 暴亂 騷擾 擾亂 抗暴 平反 維權 示威游行 李洪志 法輪大法 大法弟子 強制斷種 強制堕胎 民族淨化 人體實驗 肅清 胡耀邦 趙紫陽 魏京生 王丹 還政於民 和平演變 激流中國 北京之春 大紀元時報 九評論共産黨 獨裁 專制 壓制 統一 監視 鎮壓 迫害 侵略 掠奪 破壞 拷問 屠殺 活摘器官 誘拐 買賣人口 遊進 走私 毒品 賣淫 春畫 賭博 六合彩 天安門 天安门 法輪功 李洪志 Winnie the Pooh 劉曉波动态网自由门
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I kinda missed the anti-waifuschizo. At least xis posts are just pure autistic retardation.
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I didn't. Faggot's annoying.
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>>1664660
I don't know, anon. Hoyo games are far shittier and they never drop down as fast as GFL2.
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>>1664743
>adding a little detail on the boob makes it look better than Astra's uniboob
Yup. Design is also good.

kdxvdg
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>>1664743
With this you know Hoyoshit is bottom of the barrel.
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>>1664767
I wish Koreans would could make high budget games too. They don't have those cuck censorship laws and they are public is generally hostile towards feminists.
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>>1664773
>type A/B
lol enjoy your pozzed game
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>>1664774
Korean beauty standard (super pale white k-pop doll) is the biggest hurdle.
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>>1664779
the east has fallen...
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>>1664779
where's the shill now?
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>>1664766
that is precisely because they die, they dedicate themselves to imitating hoyo instead of improving what is wrong in their games, at least Wuthering Waves 2.0 changed a ton of annoying things that they dedicated themselves to imitating from Genshin Impact in 1.0
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[SAD NEWS] HSR community is having in fighting right now due to powercreep problem.
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=43137150
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>>1664782
>banned GODtone the best CC in the world
>game died
it's that easy
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>>1664786
No wonder Chinese prostitutes are so popular when they're that good at sucking dick
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>>1664774
chinese bros burn that company
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>>1664738
That would destroy my narrative so no.
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>>1664784
Looks like they didn't imitate Hoyo that much, Hoyo events are usually open to extreme casuals, it's also on a different genre with different gameplay, Hoyo doesn't lock content behind skins, and offrate banners already existed well before Hoyo
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[GOOD NEWS] There is an influx of 32% newcomers for Genshin's Lantern Rite! More than 8M travelers are enjoying CN festival! Genshin is thriving!
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=43137893
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>>1664802
we're so BACK Homofans!
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>>1664802
As an unconditional supporter of all of Mihoyo's decisions I am very happy with this news.
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>>1664788
heh
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>>1664804
205.98% support even!
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>>1664802
If they actually manage to recover their game by abandoning the sisters I'm going to laugh so hard
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>>1664809
Their newest 5* Inazuma girl is getting more fanarts than Natlan slops so yea I'm thinking genshin is back for real this time.
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>>1664809
>>1664153
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https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1iSf1YVE9L
Incoming shota game for the sisters.
I sure hope they wont let this flop after belittling every coomer games out there.
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>>1664802
This is as believable as CN pre-reg numbers because everytime there's someone who shills Genshin people simply said it's too outdated. Just compare Genshin side by side with current gachas.
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>>1664779
why are people surprised? in the anime the MC was androgynous, Arnights is the most tranny thing that exists
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>>1664817
Little by little the whole Chinese industry decided to collectively pluck Mihoyo's feathers. First by releasing better waifu games, then by releasing better open world games, then releasing better yume game, now potentially a better shota game.
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>>1664823
you're telling me 40M pre reg for ZZZ was a lie?!
https://old.reddit.com/r/ZZZ_Official/comments/1dbsfoc/zzz_reached_40_million_preregistrations/
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>>1664829
Yeah those are always bullshit. I've seen the counter of a small game went from 20% to 100% 3 days before launch lmao
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>>1664828
Dawei will just buy those companies anyway.
He's already on his way to buy Infold.
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>>1664831
Mihoyo buying Infold would be a level beyond based though I'm not sure if they have the money.
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>>1664834
they don't even have the money to make map expansions for genshit anymore kek
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>>1664834
they can pay $20M fine from US government immediately
thats more than the amount of money they lent Infold for 10% share
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You guys told me GTA is banned in China how can this dude owns the game?
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9449035147
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>>1664829
Infinity Nikki also got 30M pre reg as well.
https://old.reddit.com/r/InfinityNikkiofficial/comments/1gn9w7d/infinity_nikki_reaches_30_million_global/

Really makes you think, eh. Couldn't be that they are manipulating the numbers to build hype.
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>>1664845
What's with 30M prereg? WuWa also reached 30M lmaoooo
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If your game is hugely antipicated, make up 40-50M
If you're a decently sized company, 30M
Small company? Do 10M
Indie? Do 1M
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>>1664864
neteasebros we are small company...
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>>1664900
>8977658 bots
f-fuaaaaarkkk....
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zzz survey
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What is your honest thought dramabros?
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>>1664900
>Global
China will make it 50M
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>>1664932
That already includes CN number
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>>1664930
That all of 5.x updates mihomo will keep baiting and when the next region comes, they will go full homo again
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>>1664930
If they're doing all this it means they suddenly realized they're nosediving and they're trying to pull back up. Whether they can or whether they'll stick to it long term instead of betraying their own audience again remains to be seen however.
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>>1664930
My honest thought? They're correct. When companies thrive, they always do mixed toilet because they can afford marketing to normalfags and femcels. When they experience hard times, they wind down the production of content and resort to coompandering because coomers are easy to bait. Just look at LADS/GFL2 they're barely a game, most of the content are paid skins. Look at dying ToF. Look at dying Snowbreak. Look at dying Brown Dust 2. There's a pattern.
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>>1664938
tldr foryoupags kill the games they play
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>>1664938
>>1664940
MLbros we are the problem all along...
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>>1664938
plot twist NIKKE's first year was around 500m, uma musume's was 600m and lads' was 300m lol
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>>1664930
Good riddance. Gachas need to heal after Mihomo's blight of terror for 5 years.
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>>1664944
>uma musume's was 600m
uma musume frist yean revenue 2021 was 900m asshole
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>>1664947
no, i remember it was around 600m
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>>1664944
Those games are lower budget games that managed to hit it big after release. They were never intended/developed for all audiences. Shiftup for example was barely hanging in there with Destiny Child. The market is very fickle and unpredictable. The most random game could go viral overnight.
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>>1664949
come on bru you can search in sensortower if you want, 2021 honor of king was crazy and made around 2.2b and genshin around 1.8b, uma was just below garena freefire with almost 900m and was released in February, if it were released in January uma would have arrived to 1b
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>>1664675
>meawhile a indie company
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>>1664965
Imagine Dehya with an ass like that
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>>1664965
Indie company with Tencent's backing
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>>1664969
more like india lmao
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>>1664974
LOL Careful there you're gonna trigger the snitch and the janny
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>>1664965
>what shading of a female character should be like
be careful the hoyodogs were activated
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>>1664965
Too bad she fucking sucks
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>>1664982
...my dick
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>Anon posts an actual ass
>Instant seething
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>>1664965
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>>1664985
>Hoyokeks seething at sexy women
Didn't see that coming.
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>>1664965
look up the sales and you'll know why only floppy "indie companies" do that shit
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>>1664993
>men can keep games alive
>homos and women can't
This isn't the point you want to make.
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Has anyone noticed the similarity between AI bubble and 2D games bubble?
>OpenAI: We need 5 trillion dollar to build the next AI
>Mihoyo: We need billion dollar to make new project
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>>1664993
>Look up "Rinascita" on Youtube
>Most of it are just Genshin comparison videos
It's all so tiresome.
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>>1665000
Wuwa built its identity by being "the better genshin"
What you saw is the result
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>>1665001
grim
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>>1664993
>yes they did it but only with male characters
>now that Da Wei needs to pay 10,000b yuan, he seeks refuge in male players but no one believes him
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>>1665003
So I mentioned this issue to my friend and he legit said, "what else would they sell on a male?"
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>>1665003
genshit's male players don't play games for femorrhoid flops and goonershit.
sales didn't tank when they censored bitches in 2.4 but it did during the year of femorrhoids
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>implying shit like kaveh and alhaitam isn't goonershit
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>>1665003
They gave the female characters (some) the same butt model of Mona, Eula and Shenhe and they even gave Mauvika a physics but I won't fall for that bait twice unless i see them fire all the female staff they have
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>>1665013
That's only was after sumeru and floptaine homo fiasco that killed their game forever
Mihomo went panic mode by making the natlan female cast slightly more fanservicey than the nuns of floptaine
Waifu enjoyers that left didn't fall for that bullshit anyway
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>>1664987
Anon, this is what Homokeks prefer and play for, like >>1665009 keeps saying
They are homos that lust over male buttshots in their PVs
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>>1665035
cool story xis but the year of femorrhoids is the reason why genshit is in the sad state is in to begin with
femorrhoid flops are responsible for killing their other games as well >>1664150
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>>1665004
Height, muscles or cool faces is all I can think of but that's all ruled out by them refusing to make more than three models
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>>1665035
Its unfortunate that natlan didnt pander to homo anymore. Genshin needs to die faster for the scene to heal
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>>1664965
instead of hating this game you should focus of getting trannies out of the hobbie so hoyo could at least get closer to this
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>>1664675
>loli changli: wtf that's how it is a tittys look with cleaveage
indeed
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>>1664803
>>1664804
>>1664809
>>1664811
It's bullshit, retards. The data is about the players of the first lantern rite.
Anon >>1664802 confirmed a ch*nk hoyoshill, lmao.
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>>1665076
>Replying as if I didn't know
Retard kek
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>>1665076
>exposing the hoyomole
thx boss
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>>1664900
>Thought that it's 800k
>It turns out to be 8m
Manjuu... Don't try to pick a fight with this game. Let's stay on our own niche(harem player). Let Ananta get the normies.
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>>1664703
MLfags are trusting way too much on a game that hasn't released nothing for over a year, a game where the main designer quit, and where the dev is still hiring staff for critical positions this late
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>>1665167
And which license already expired too
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>>1665136
normies barely want it already, they are disgusted with 1:99 male to female ratio
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>>1665073
Brant is so lucky.....
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It's going to be every patch at this rate, hoyo is pulling out all the stops
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>>1665223
>handholding
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>>1665223
Aether is so fucking gay, holy shit
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>>1665223
they are trying a lot but it takes 1 year to lose trust and 4 to regain it.
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>>1665223
Why is the blond boy in the bath with a bunch of women?
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>>1664930
Don't worry bwo. As soon as they get comfortably enough, they will go right back to shitting in their players mouth.
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>>1665223
thank you kuro, you're healing our previously keked game
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>>1665223
I wish them luck I guess. If they manage it the others will follow in the ML and end up causing mass femcel extinction.
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Today I went to a birthday party and to my surprise all my normalfag friends were playing WuWa. They even want me to play it, tho I'm reluctant because it's mixed toilet.
Guess once Azur Promilia comes out I'll recommend it if it's good.
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>>1665281
I believe you anon
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>>1665284
One of them even had a full team of lolis. I wonder how they heard about the game, perhaps 2.0 marketing actually worked.
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Why can't Japan get into gacha anymore?
Japanese games EOS right and left nowadays.
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>>1665292
They're cheap as fuck, haven't made any progress in 10 years.
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>>1665223
>genshin supposedly healing
>meanwhile hsr is getting gayer by the second
they must've offloaded the feminists from genshins dev team to hsr fuck this man
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>>1665292
>censores slop
Rightfully deserved.
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>>1665292
atelier should never have been made a gacha, i've been playing since ayesha, tried resliriana, it was slop and censored, nothing but a cash grab, i knew it'd go eos.
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>>1665177
What I mean by normies are the ironic weebs. They're the one who plays Japanese game using Eng dub and disliking fan service. They'll fit perfectly with Ananta.
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>>1665292
Low quality, low budget, too stingy, slow updates, such at publishing/marketing globally.
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>>1665302
Ananta is full of fanservice though always has been
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>>1665292
I thought a lot about why nips are such huge hoyoslop slurpers, even more than chnk, then I realized all of their gacha investment was rug pulled by every single big jpn companies for years! No wonder they are forced to stick with cn now cause at least those games wont be eos any time soon…
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I thought we were suppose to be shilling Ananta?
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>>1665314
Ananta is peak safe horny
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>>1665316
I stopped shilling it after where winds meet drama
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>>1665314
>The artist didn't even bother to draw tits for the right girl
Is this mean to be sarcastic?
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>>1665316
The designs look boring but too tryhard at the same time. Story will be the only thing that can save those designs.
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>>1665316
We who?
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>>1665314
funfact the official gllobal discord is managed by lolicon, the fanart 16+ channel is spam of Loli fanart (lots of BA) close to hentai (thing that would get you directly banned from the official
Azur lane and BA discord) and the mods say nothing, people have noticed that on other servers the admins and mods of the official Ananta discord are not afraid to post Loli porn. NetEase literally hired lolicon
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>>1665326
Unbelievably based.
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>>1665326
>banned from the official
Azur lane and BA discord
i'll never understand why these places are so pozzed, especially AL. The game is borderline porn and you're not allowed to post art assets from the fucking game.
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>>1665326
>NetEase literally hired lolicon
Well, this give me the last push to not playing the game. Every lolicon that I know have low standard.
>>1665331
Because it will nuked your discord server. Go report one of that risque loli fan art.
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>>1665292
Japs have no attachment to their IP whatsoever.To them, it's just a pump and dump scheme before the hype fades away, so they put no effort in the long run. It's no surprise chink gachas beat them on their home turf because those companies live and die solely based on the success of their games so they have to plan ahead.
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>>1665331
Discord is a bitch when it comes to lolis. I know the FGO one is similar in that you can't post certain characters, even just their sprites in the game, or they'll ban you because they're scared Discord admins will wipe them out for it.
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>>1665326
wtf i like ananta now?
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>>1665335
> this give me the last push to not playing the game.
You made the right choice. Their discord manager also works for snowbreak and wuwa servers. Im going back to hoyo instead
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>>1665292
japanese companies are full of suits nowadays. they dont care about anything other than meeting profits to appease stock investors
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>>1665326
I don't like lolis but they are like spray that scares away female players
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>>1665357
Yup like >>1665335 and >>1665355
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>>1665383
well they did censor luvencia's pantyshot in-game vs the promo art, people even complained. So i guess they are not immune to censorship either. Also snowbreak is just as lewd and has actual (You) pandering. I don't like being a cuck ghost.
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>>1665383
it would probably be full of fag and troon shit like japanese gacha is
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>>1665383
>Imagine CN gacha but even more homosexual
No thanks.
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I'd rather have casual sexiness like huge boobs, bouncing boobs and pantyshots like in GFL2 than blatant sex and innuendos like Brown Dust and Snowbreak
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>>1665357
>female players
Nope. In fact most of them like Pammy(loli race) from Azur Promilia the most.
It's only normies(American) who hate them, because you have risk to get cancelled.
>sexualized loli
Now you'll scare away everyone except lolicon, lol.
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>>1665281
Wuwa is going for the cuckege route like genshin, they are slowly making Rover into Aether 2.0, just look how they decided to ruin Changli or how they are aiming for Yuritroon audience with Zani and Phoebe
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>>1665410
>Nope. In fact most of them like Pammy(loli race) from Azur Promilia the most.
Women love non-sexualized lolis, correct.
>Now you'll scare away everyone except lolicon, lol.
Only normalfags are scared by sexualized lolis(aka you)
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>>1665405
>tranny pretending to be a gfl player
i didn't save it but there's a video of sabrina eating a lolipop like she's sucking a dick, there's all sorts of other lewd shit, mica doesn't hold back
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>>1665240
...are they trying to copy the Shopkeeper pulls you out the blackhole stuff or what?
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>>1665410
AP has potato lolis/buddypokes, those aren't real lolis, those are caricature like gnomes or dwarves, ugly as shit.
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>>1665408
Who did it better?
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>>1665420
kek
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>>1665412
>Scared
Nah. It's just lame for creature with 0 sexy parameter to try to be sexy. She should focus on elegance or cuteness instead. And thankfully most of human agree about this, considering that you won't see pic related design in most games anymore.
>>1665420
Lmao. It's always funny to me that even lolicon has their standard of acceptable age/physical form.
No matter how much you wanted to twist the fact, it won't change that:
1. Yes, that's a loli.
2. (some) Lolicon want to fuck it.
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>>1665435
You will never fit in.
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>>1665437
On the contrary, it's you who will never fit in. You'll only get safe horny loli and you'll be forced to like it, lmao.
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>>1665420
>>1665425
Cute!
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>>1665383
>Imagine gachas with full-blown, unrestrained homo faggotry straight in your face.
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>>1665437
Damn you got him
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>>1665443
You don't need to samefagging bro if you lose an argument on 4chan.
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>>1665383
>Insult CCP
>Instantly multiple replies defending CCP with unproven hypothetical scenario (proof : Korean games can be lewd without homofaggotry)
Kek. This thread is astroturfed as heck.
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>>1665448
We're defending it because it keeps homosexuality in check, retard. Mihoyo is pozzed to hell and back, imagine what they'd do in a pro homo enviroment.
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>>1665450
In pro homo environment Mihoyo will still be Mihoyo because at the end of the day people choose on what they want to spend money at. If Mihoyo releases full on gay sex people will stop paying, simple as. Imagine crediting CCP for market supply/demands.
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>>1665448
Always has been.
>we
lol
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>>1665411
What causes someone to lie like this?
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>>1665451
> If Mihoyo releases full on gay sex people will stop paying,
This, it's not like investment firms can push behaviours by giving money, supply/demand is 100% organic.
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>>1665448
>Korean games can be lewd without homofACK
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>>1665458
And the CCP prevents this?
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>>1665458
You know the MC is in a relationship with both right?
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>>1665460
FUCK i didn't know that..
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Without authoritarian rule we'd already have full-on animated CN gacha sex scenes by now.
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>>1665405
lol nice try falseflagger schizo
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>>1665458
>chinks hate her! How to remove ML niggers from your game with one simple trick
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>>1665460
not canon
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>>1665326
>game's still a mixed toilet
will still flop if they don't change this.
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>>1665669
but enough about guilungcow
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>>1665413
I find it funny he says that when there is some pretty implied sex in Groza's oath story.
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>>1665669
it will flop harder if it only had femorrhoids
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Rajeesh woke up kek
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>>1665669
I doubt they'll be able to maintain a game that big with only the support of coomers
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>>1665458
They have threesomes with the commander, I remember that I saw a player complain to NIKKE about this lesbian couple because it disgusted her how shift up serves the fantasies of heterosexual men, it was very funny to see her brain melt from anger
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>>1665405
>>1665990
>game is good
>no, it's great
So what's the problem here
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Azur Promilia seems to have changed Youyou's design to show more cleavage and made her boobs bigger? Is 16+ ML route confirmed?

Left is her model in the website, middle is the drawing for their red envelope giveaway, and right is the new drawing they just posted to commemorate chinese new year.
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>>1666091
she's still wearing spat
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>>1666137
safehorny
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Hey guys we aren't dead yet!
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>>1666152
whoa a plushie, just market it to normalfags that like pokemon, they will make more money that way, it worked for palworld
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>>1666137
Proof?
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>>1666137
Even if she's not i doubt they'll add or allow anything remotely close to AL. Just look how barebones their 3D dorm is.
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>>1666137
is GFL2 the only chinese gacha with pantsu?
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>>1666168
snowbreak has it but some launch characters still default to wearing spats
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>>1666168
aether gazer started out as a safe horny mixed toilet with spats, now they stopped adding worms, and show pantsu or leotards in most of their skins
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>>1666158
You could tell their marketing team were planning what was essentially a mixed toilet game with heavy emphasis on merch sales towards girls.
Plushies? For men? Really? If you like plushies u gay son.
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>>1666203
>now they stopped adding worms
That's a lie I played the game for like two weeks last year and there was a male on the banner I dunno if he was a rerun or whatever but they definitely had worms on banners back then.
Gameplay combat is better than Endfield but thats not saying much, I dropped the game fast cause the combat was still at the bottom of the barrel.
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>>1666211
it reminds me that I saw during the bilibili world that about 85% of the merch they sold was Kibo Merch, but the irony is that the merch of the female characters sold out first and they had trouble selling the kibo merch
the real players who wait for AP seem to don't care about the kibo
in the minds of those waiting for AP, they seem to see farming and Kibo as a bonus
where for manjuu we have the impression (at least at the time) that they want to focus on Kibo and farming with girls as a bonus
I think that the bilibili world must have brought them back to the reality of what people expect in a gacha and that's why they no longer communicate at all since the biliblili world
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>>1666215
>rerun
you said it, that's not the same as adding more worms, i never said they removed worms, that will never happen. Current playerbase loves their worms, but the likelyhood of adding more is never happening.
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>>1666222
Just scrap the pokemon-like elements at this point. It's a massive waste of dev time. Time that could've been reallocated into waifus which is the only thing people care about.
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>>1666251
Gayest take ITT. Kibos are literally what give the game its identity.
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>>1666222
One thing about the Bilibili World event is that, a week before, an AP account on Little Red Book (the Chinese app competing with TikTok, where everyone did go after TikTok's ban in the US) went public. people noticed that the account published the AP trailer on the same day and at the same time as the official Bilibili account, which made it clear that it was an official account.
The issue is that in China, Little Red Book is used by an audience ~80% female, which led to complaints that Manjuu was trying to attract more female players. Manjuu remained silent the all week, but the day of the Bilibili World event arrived and...
Those who visited the AP booth in the morning noticed that the AP social media board displayed the Little Red Book account. However, those who came later in the afternoon noticed that the account had been removed from the board, and on the same day, the Little Red Book account was deleted.
This leaves two possible theories:
>Some complained IRL at the booth, and Manjuu give up.
>They realized that the people who go to the booth were mostly guys and concluded that a Little Red Book account wasn’t profitable, so they deleted it.
We’ll never know what really happened with that Little Red Book account, as Manjuu acts as though it never existed.
AP has attracted an audience (the AL/ML audience) that Manjuu didn’t anticipate, while the audience Manjuu had targeted seems to don"t care about AP. This probably completely upended AP's marketing plans. I wouldn’t be surprised if their four years of marketing plans (since we know development started in 2021) ended up in the trash.
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>>1666091
That design is everything you need to know about AP, now I am 100% sure is gonna be mixed toilet and they aren't removing the FEMC
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>>1666338
her tiny boob cleavage is hardly anything to cry about, yet they went out of their way to cover the little she has, even mihomo doesn't do this. This doesn't give me any hope.
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If you love AP, let it die so it can be reborn later
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>>1666354
Even mixed toilets aimed to faggots like Wuthering Waves have this type of cleavage, this is self censorship from Manjew, but the question is why?
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>wiwi out of nowhere
very organic saar
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>gacha game in the gacha thread
Impossible. It must be a conspiracy.
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>>1666367
Changli sex
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>>1666378
Fast! Mention Tencent bad!
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>>1666380
We know Brant
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uh oh melty
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>>1666354
To be honest, I don't expect anything sexual from his design because the character doesn't give off those vibes, she feels like has a funny personality or something, i would be more worried if they censor the elf milf
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>>1666397
>his
Trans game???
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>>1666354
HSR does this all the time, ZZZ did this with the latest character
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>>1666397
So true sis
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>>1666400
great comparison, massive tits, cleavage and jiggle, slightly covered, vs flattie, and nothing showing
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>>1666401
plot twits snowbreak has been making more bland base designs lately that border on censorship but these faggots won't tell you that, the new skin in battle pass of siris is most blantant that this >>1666354 for a game that calls itself spicy
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>>1666413
KEKYPOWWWWWWW
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>>1666413
snowbros and mlbros what happened? you guys like to frame other games but when snowbreak does this shit I don't see drama you can't even see her half buttock
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>>1666413
and why I should give fuck about what is happening to snowbreak? I play AL so you can tell what I am expecting from AP, since that game was literal made with money of AL players and look mihomo is showing more cleveage than AP >>1666407 so I dont think is the chink goverment fault fucking up thing this time
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>>1666421
Damn Brant is so lucky....
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>>1666433
Don't get defensive Snowbreak is a +18 and AP +12 game, the first is made to be spicy bait, the second is not.

from all this I understand that all designs cannot be spicy because it becomes monotonous and that is what snowbreak does
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>>1666429
>genshin getting more based by the minute
>snowpeak going downhill each update
Kekaroooooooo
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>>1666438
that's why no developer takes seriously at these extremist faggots lol
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>>1666429
DOESN'T COUNT
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>>1666429
YAAAAAAAMEEEROOO
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>>1666222
Bilibili World was probably when they realized they fucked up. Still don't understand why they had the idea of making an all-waifu mixed toilet.
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>>1666438
>>1666444
Azur Lane, ZZZ and Brown dust 2 are +12 too you fucking retarded faggot and they have more fanservice than Snowbreak, I really dont understand your point retarded femcel
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>>1666429
CCP buckbroke them, i'd be scared too if they could shut me down at a moments notice. They're probably layling low for now. Manjuu went through the same a few years ago in azur lane, 1 whole year of non-horny skins, not even bikinis in the summer.
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>This is the "tastefully lewd gacha designs" checkpoint. Show me the tastefullest lewd design in your gachas!
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>>1666456
Are you assuming I'm a woman? LMAOOOO snowbros are schizophrenic when facts are pointed out, not even their spicy games are 100% hot in all designs, so stop accusing and some of them are even cuckold (BD2)

Azur Promilia has spicy designs and it has soft designs like any game, if they censor the wolf girl for example then we will have problems there in the meantime they are just a bunch of schizophrenic faggots that no one takes seriously.
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>>1666458
Yes, but these faggots don't understand and they keep pointing their fingers all the time.
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>>1666242
the year of femorrhoids flopped and cut the game's sales in half
if they want money they'll have to course correct. and they do want money judging by the sudden double 5* banner (which still flopped kek)
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>>1666460
According to the Spicy ML bros, that design is censorship because it does not show the tits, it is clearly not for straght men
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>>1666468
And what's your bright idea for more money? Releasing more males?
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one of the AP merch given to employees for the Chinese New Year (there is one for each day) but what does the one for Thursday mean?
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>>1666468
mass appeal global audience is.... strong!!!
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>>1666460
what game? i like it.
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>>1666468
wow LADS is nowhere to be found i guess no one outside social networks takes the x 99999 gacha revenue multiplier seriously
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>>1666483
Lost Sword?
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>>1666462
I dont know if you can read but I was shitting on snowbreak for being safe horny shit, and I dont play snowbreak also
>if they censor the wolf girl for example then we will have problems there in the meantime they are just a bunch of schizophrenic faggots that no one takes seriously.
They already censored the wolf girl, they put spats under her skirt

>>1666475
You are trying to hard tranny, your mask fell off
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>>1666460
I...i can see it...
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>>1666484
KEKYPOOOOW
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>>1666490
shut up you fucking schizo, just play a porn game, just go to nutaku
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>>1666462
I'm hoping AP goes ultra coom route so faggots like you can fuck off
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>>1666497
2/10
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you guys activated the snowbros, their safe shit is good but not the safe shit of other games
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>>1666478
It's the weekly wageslave mood
By thursday you feel like killing yourself
On the weekend you feel great but on sunday you remember that you have to get back to work the following day.
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>>1666477
yes? that's how they started making money in the first place, by abandoning their waifutroon ideals
males have mass appeal. femorrhoids don't
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>>1666503
TRVKE
WuWa safe horny > Snowshit safe horny
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>>1666506
but lads it doesn't appear in your other graph but if HSR penacony waifupandering, firefly pandering then how does it work?
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>If you shit on snowbreak you play snowbreak
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>>1666507
>WuWa safe horny > Snowshit safe horny
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>1666512
SEEEGS
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>>1666512
SOVL
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>>1666516
The base skin show more skin than the paid one lol
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>>1666429
Those are pants, not a skirt, you retard
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>>1666306
>Company known for AL
>Want female playerbase
>After committing to all-female roster and zero male
>The only attraction for females are those shitty pokemon clone
Are they genuinely retarded? This is like if Ananta releases with all-male roster but still expects men to play it "because GTA gameplay"
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>Meanwhile their newest male is showing is chest in full display
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>anyone criticize snowbreak for being safe shit from time to time like all gachas
>snowbros are activated to attack to wuwa to change the topic
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[SAD NEW] Nu Genshin Leak Bar Homo Admin 赫澪雨 was finally sued by HSR legal team. Now MXZ lost one of its key members that used to protect them from anti hoyo posters.
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=43145419
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9451416895
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>>1666523
Newsflash men are allowed to even go shirtless outside.
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>>1666509
no cn android data and your waifuflop simulators aren't on the chart either xis
>b-but fireflop
killed shart rail. shart rail made less money in the entire year of 2024 than it did in 8 months and 1 week of 2023 because the waifupag pandering made everyone quit
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>>1666526
Most loyal mihoyo stan
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>>1666523
based Bi-CHAD game
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>>1666532
the xisters said that IOS was their playground and Android wasn't it? I don't understand them
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>>1666540
except it's the waifutrannies who use the "muh ios is for women" as an excuse for your waifuflop simulators charting poorly kek
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[SAD NEWS] HSR players were doxxed after winning 500k gem jackpot
https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9451006154
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>>1666552
>girls actually playing Snowbreak
Why?
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>>1666545

but LADS does not appear in the top or in the most recent statistics of 2024 of any data collector neither from cn nor from the west, they are clearly below the top 25 of appmagic 2024 that collects data from Appstore Ipad and AppStore Iphone.

Compared to NIKKE's first year, it did make it into the top 25 with 555m and LADS didn't make it because it only earned 398m, if that is the purchasing power of the male characters in an uncensored game that goes further than the rest vs a Censored "waiflop" that sells png, turn off and let's go, because also uma musume in its first year, a waifufloop obtained 900m and was launched in February 2021 while LADS in January 2024
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>>1666554
Despite being 10% of the snowbreak fanbase women make 90% of the revenue
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>>1666554
girls (not ugly unlikable type) love sexy girls too
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>>1666523
changli is so lucky...
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>>1666558
my fucking sides
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>>1666556
LMAOOOO YAMEEEROOOO don't break the hopes of the xisters
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>>1666558
Sisters....I kneel.
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>>1666554
"girls"
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>>1666552
Where's HSR
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>>1666429
>even the drunken elf from Mingchao shows more skin than a paid skin from Snowpeak
Wtf happened?
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>>1666570
Probably safe to assume it is similar to Genshin.
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>>1666556
goddess of niggers had complete data
lads is missing cn android data. android has more than 70% market share in china btw
and besides, crying about lads won't change the fact that femorrhoid flops killed genshit and shart rail
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>>1666554
Transbians.
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>>1666556
LADS is far from uncensored. They can't even show nipples, and most of the "sex" scenes are implied.
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>>1666572
>sexo elf
might be time to install this game
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>>1666572
WuWa will show more skin until the CCP kicks Kuro HQ doors and rapes the CEO.
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>>1666574
>goddess of niggers had complete data

Do you know that that leaves NIKKE in a better position? because it means that his honeymoon data was not collected because it was at the end of 2022 that he was released.

and who are you trying to fool, LADS doesn't master Android, not even close del top 10 even mingchao have better position in android TW (with similar trend to CN taste) that LADS lol.
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>>1666429
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>>1666583
They are unironically correct. Poorfags should only settle with daily pass or battle pass. There's a reason price levels exist.
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>>1666583
Mihoyo players are kryptonians now?
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>>1666588
nyoooo... my narrative...
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>>1666584
lads missing data from the majority market in its biggest region is objectively a massive handicap
>even mingchao have better position in android TW (with similar trend to CN taste)
pure copium lole. only 4% of lads' sales come from taiwan
enough with the mental gymnastics xis
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/snowg/ is laughing at us...
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>>1666523
I wish I was Brant...
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Pure copium is to think that LADS is represented on Android, the entire platform when you start to review it is dominated in most countries with high tendencies to spend on gachas for games like:

>genshin impact
>wuthering waves
>zenless zone zero
>arknights
>Honkai Star Rail
>NIKKE
>FGO

check out AppMagic's Android 2024 for yourself, even Wuthering Waves 1.X, which was bad, most of the second quarter 2024 was represented on Android, LADS no shit, not show, no one else data recolector businesslike shows it lol
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>>1666625
but xisters told me that LADS earned more than mihoyo and that they would dominate the world, they would change the trend of cocka in mixed bathrooms
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>>1666588
Sisters have been awfully quiet since this dropped.
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>>1666625
LADS is only shown on IOS but IOS on CN is no longer even part of the country's representative top, it had a decrease of more than 15% and was even surpassed by HUAWEI in the world representative top
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>>1666625
LADsissies...
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>lads was a femcel psyop all along
How will they recover from this?
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>>1666625
i already imagined that gacharevenue inflated it but i didn't imagine how much, anyway it seems that no data collector in the business averages something excessive for LADS, trend of 300m-390m for the year, it is good in its category but at least you have to approach the year of NIKKE to say that you will change something.
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>>1666625
>LADS is represented on Android
I generally never see girls using Android devices only iPhones or iPads. Only time I have is my friends wife, and that is only because he hates Apple and refuses to spend any money on their products.
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>>1666625
Isn't LADS only big in CN? AFAIK if we compare it with global charts most non-Hoyo games just get trounced by normalfag games like Roblox or Coin Master (and one could even argue Hoyo is normalfag)
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>>1666625
the games that top chart in china are different from the games that chart in literally every other country xis
enough with the mental gymnastics and false equivalents already lmao
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>>1666646
That's because Apple is a fashion brand and women care more about what strangers think of their phone than practicality. That anon is just coping.
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>>1666647
yes but even ios in cn now does not seem to be a big deal, it is as this anon said >>1666632 that ios is no longer part of the representative top since the middle of 2024 in CN so obviously the data collection changes, that is why AppMagic that collects cn ios and ipad data showed a downward trend in several cn games compared to 2023 but showed an incredible increase in US games
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>>1666646
That just makes the Sensor Tower fraud numbers things more apparent, since that would mean most of the spending is through iOS, which is a minority marketshare wise in CN, but Sensor still adds an 1.75 multiplier for Android, despite not being anywhere that high. That multiplier is what inflates the numbers high, not the base iOS revenue. Like see image, as soon as you take out the CN android multiplier and it's only iOS, all of a sudden magically LADS isn't anywhere close to being first.
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>>1666651
If you realize that there are 3 cn games there are including HOK that all their collection is CN also DNF but not LADS that supposedly beats GI and HSR even Monster Strike from only JP?
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>>1666659
monopoly went from 600m 2023 to 1b in 2024 i can see it
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>>1666662
HoK is a different beast that can't even be compared with Genshin. "HoK hours" is a thing because somehow they're always at or near the top
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>>1666661
I don't think sensortower is bad, what happens with LADS and gachagaming is that they use an arbitrary multiplier, in reality sensortower does not give you CN numbers, although its method is obtuse it should give you moderate data, when the data from sensortower passes through the filter from gachagaming called gacharevenue is that the data is distorted
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>>1666683
Every revenue ranking is guesstimates. Even Google Play rankings uses ARPU.
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xisters LADS is even several steps below wuwa in tap tap downloads, stop raving, if it doesn't get into the top with IOS data much less with android
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LADS is Dawei's money laundering tool!
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>>1666686
Yes, that's basically why I said they use an obtuse method.
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Incels seething at LADS and femcels seething at Snowbreak name a better duo. Meanwhile those games are literally unknown outside China.
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>>1666625
wtf holy normalfag pandering in 2024
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>>1666662
hok and dnf are bigger than lads so they don't need android data to top the charts but how does that support your narrative that your femorrhoid flops sell?
neither of those games are waifuflop simulators and aren't even gachas
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>>1666712
calm down troon he is just denying the LADS farce, have you ever wondered why if the company that runs LADS makes as much money as gachagaming says, then why does their most globalized game Infinity Nikki not made a stream outside of CN?

do you realize that even the game that they call EOS Wuthering Waves makes targeted streams for GL, JP, KR and CN? and their production capacity is so poor that they have not yet been able to optimize the PS5, which is locked at 30fps, which is why they are out of the top of the PS5 while the wuthering waves EOS is there.
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>>1666754
KEKYPOOOOOOOWWWWWWW
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>>1666754
>which is locked at 30fps
are you referring to wuwa or nikki?
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>>1666768
it's NIKKI the game is locked to 4K 30 FPS it's crazy that no one talks about that for a supposed company that makes "millions" their production capacity is absolute shit.
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>>1666754
you're a loony troon who can't accept the fact that lads regularly tops the same chart that includes the top mobile game in the world while your waifuflop simulators rarely even break into the top 100 so you jump countless hoops trying to discredit its success
blame your fellow waifutroons in china for letting your precious femorrhoid flops xis. you should tell them to get jobs instead of bitching about everything on forums
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lol. do women belong in the gaming industry?
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>>1666777
It doesn't matter how much you lie, you're not going to change the trend faggot, the companies have the real data
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>>1666777
not that anon but I never take the charts at face value
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>>1666782
Gaming is healing.
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>goddess of niggers tops jp ios
*crickets"
>lads tops cn ios
"m-muh ios is for women..."
"c-cn ios data doesn't represent cn android but data from other countries does"
mental illness lmao
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>>1666787
what charts because appstore rankings are as official as it gets
i'm not talking about estimates
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>>1666793
I just saw appmagic ios actually LADS dont appear in the top 20 of ios 2024 is a fact lol
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>>1666782
>Trump has recently come to power, and conservative forces have returned
Sounds like a line from fucking starwars kek
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>>1666798
Rankings never show how much the company spent that month. It shows revenue yeah, but not profit. You could've earned 50m this month but if you spent 35m in marketing and 10m in operations you only got 5m in profit, which I'm pretty sure is the case for half of these companies.
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>>1666574
you are delulu dude, check out AppMagic LADS does not even appear in the top 100 Android of 2024 but do you know who did get in with just 7 months and a terrible release? wuthering waves LMAO
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>>1666807
Definitely the case for mihoyo because if earn a lot of money like we see, then why they keep making cut budgets here and there?
Their marketing costs must be insane
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>>1666816
Pretty sure most of their marketing goes into HSR last I saw, and yes its impossibly high
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>>1666815
>"c-cn ios data doesn't represent cn android but data from other countries does"
if a cn game is topping the cn ios charts, then it's also topping the cn android charts. this is what normal people think
no one will jump through the same hoops you do tranny lole
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>>1666835
the only list where LADS is shown (nowhere else no matter how much you search on the internet) is gachagaming imaginary list lol
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>>1666782
Are we entering to the gacha renaissance era?
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>>1666835
fun fact, the only gacha game apart from Genshin Impact and Honkai Star Rail that has reached the hit 10m simultaneous downloads on Tap Tap, CN largest third-party platform, guess who?
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>>1666853
wuuuuuuuuuuuuwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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>>1666849
because it's the only site that accounts for cn android
got any new copes tranny? it's getting boring t b h
>>1666807
i know they measure revenue and not profits. anyway at least for lads they don't seem to spend a lot on the marketing based on >>1665402
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>>1666853
wu wu wu wu wa wa wa wa
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>>1666853
>muh downloads
oh wow something new for once
well yeah china has plenty of jobless waifutroons but do they spend?
wuwa is gigaflopping on cn ios. therefore, it's also flopping on cn android
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>if it's flopping on ios it's flopping everywhere else
I bet women actually believe this, just like they believe they are the majority.
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>>1666867
If they have so much money why don't they promote themselves on GL como GFL2? or do they even promote their game nikki (mutilplatform) globally like wuwa does? Or is it that they don't really earn shit, even Shift Up demonstrates their purchasing power more than Infold, something doesn't add up friend.

they still maintain a terrible low-cost optimization of their game Infinity Nikki, it's locked at 30 fps on PS5 and i think on mobile in the first months, what kind of multi-million dollar company does that.
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>>1666853
WUWON
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>>1666910
>i think on mobile in the first months
actually it's still locked at 30 fps on mobile It makes you wonder where the money actually goes or if they are even making money.
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>already back to "muh ios is for women"
wuwa flopped
>"it's ok as long as we survive..." - kuroflop ceo
>>1666910
cn is their biggest market and women already do a good job marketing for them
can't say the same for girls flopline (which is already flopping on global >>1664056)
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>>1666937
>It's ok as long as we survive
That was the 2024 motto, get with the times. The 2025 motto is "Challenge is Greatness"
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>>1666937
If mihoyo is floped, then infold is in ruin and close to the dump, imagine not being able to optimize after so much time Nikki, if they make so much money unless prove it by hiring people worth that money or is it that they don't have shit?
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>>1666948
wtf what is that shit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh5Lg_i3j08

Wuwon?
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>>1665383
feet don't work like that
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https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9451384630?pn=1

Gacha drama has come to the tale of immortal forum. I think this might become more and more common this year...
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J*ps gachas will start to use AI to minimize cost.
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>>1667127
And they'll still be cheap as fuck
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>>1666782
I don't think this is about gacha. Still, you just know that if you put these people in charge of the place, they will always create carriature of women who look neither male nor female like Aloy because they refuse to let the "filthy men with their gazes" get a win over them.
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>/vmg/ - chinese forum posts translation
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we love Azur Promilia
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>>1666552
how are these calculated? it being 2:1 m/f for genshin makes their new approach make a lot of sense
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>>1667127
japs can't make good gachas
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>>1667242
Imagine if that was the ratio during inazuma/pre-wormeru, but they went ahead with the direction of wormeru and fontoilet. They deserve to fail. After wormeru I was under the impression that the ratio was near 55%-45% m:f, but women simply don't pay like men do for characters. but if it was always 2:1, mihomo are ideological retards.
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>>1666782

The best thing that could have happened to the world is that Trump became president, now that I remember, Sony once again elected a Japanese CEO, bye bye hermen hulsts.

it is better that the troons and feminists go looking for jobs in a grocery store or McDonald's because in video games we don't want them or their shitty vision.
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>>1667273
we will see if Sony recovers their old essence when allowed videogames like Senran Kagura to enter and did not censor them, maybe that will help the multiplatform gachas to stop being such fags.
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>>1667265
genshit didn't suffer any consequence when they censored bitches in 2.4 but sales got cut in half after a year of femorrhoids
even assuming that's true, normal men don't play games for waifupaggotry
zzz is dead after shitting out 7 femorrhoids in a row
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>>1667273
>Sony once again elected a Japanese CEO
well that's a good start, but sqeenix is still japanese and still pozzed, and so are a bunch of other japanese developers. Hopefully they will grow some balls and go back to the PS3 era of pantsu gaming.
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>>1667127
Their games will get even slopier than before, jesus christ
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>>1667276
Now post Miyabi sales
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>>1667276
>image from a random bilibili video
>invalid opinion
yes yes dude we already know that all games are going to fail wuwa, ananta, enfield, genshi, zzz, hsr etc even if the trend is clear lol schizo
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>>1667276
you know that lighter is the worst banner from ZZZ and any mihoyo gacha game ever released

if mihoyo had not listened to the femaleplayers and had left that worm in rank A, they would not have lost 21 days of revenue.
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>>1667237
I'll wait until CBT to decide whether to bully or support them. But did they really increase Han Youyou boobs size? Lmao. Even her 3D model didn't show any cleavage.
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>>1667276
Now show the newest data(with Lighter and Miyabi).
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>>1667284
>miyabi
you mean harumasa? he carried that patch!!! even if he was free, miyabi flopped!!
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>>1667289
>you know that lighter is the worst banner from ZZZ and any mihoyo gacha game ever released
Yes because they wasted all the goodwill gained from launch and drove away their female playerbase. This coompandering route will cause good short-term profits but it's hard to bounce back from it once the game is being labeled negatively. Case in point, ZZZ trying to say "hey!! please come back!!" with Harumasa and Hugo only to generate no buzz. Naturally the next move would be to implement extreme powercreep because as normalfags have left, it's the only way to salvage their game by squeezing money out of metafags. You'll see.
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>>1667314
why is shit like guilongchao flopping then, it basically follows your thesis to the tee. 1:1 M:F ratio, zero coom, glorified males, feminist devs, etc. The game is a femcel's dream
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>>1667289
>b-b-but lighter
why is zzz dying after shitting out 7 femorrhoids in a row?
>>1667284
besides the fact that the fox bitch isn't representative of zzz's average sales, her sales aren't anything special to begin with. only 57m despite being shilled since zzz's beta and shitting on every other character
it already went back to gigaflopping on the next banner/ flopstra didn't even get into the cn top 10 unlike yanagi
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>>1667316
Guilongchao the game with more budget for marketing than developing the game, shitty action scrolling gameplay in open/semi open world trend market, on top of no global release. Are you done using it as your beating stick? It's worn out already.

Besides it's not like I'm advocating against coom in general, just unequal coompandering that also isn't backed by quality so the game gets labeled like that. Once the game gets labeled "the coomer game" it will be really over. It will make good profits still, but zero expectation to be the number 1 game.
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>>1667317
But didn't the same thing happen with Sumeru --> fontaine? the first woman was fufu after so long time and yet she sold more than neuvilette lol your points don't make sense because that also applies in that case
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>>1667317
stop crying, women don't spend and that's it all, those developers know it for that reason they have not changed the trend even in 2025, most of the male characters aren't even there for femcels or troons, they're there so that normies don't get scared
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>>1667322
nope tranny. they split their playerbase and sales between 2 shart rail and genshit but it still resulted in overall growth. 2023 was mihoyo's best year
now they have 3 games but saw a fuckhuge drop in sales last year >>1666506
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>>1667323
For dying games they just don't give a fuck anymore lol. "If a game is dying they'll resort to coom" is a meme for a reason. The most hilarious example is Tower of Fantasy because everybody knows Hotta is the most soulless and shameless moneygrabbers around.
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>>1667323
your femorrhoid flops flopped and killed all their games
can't wait to see troonwei cry like a bitch on stage again for listening to broke waifutrannies lole
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>>1667314

In sumeru it was also a drought my friend and yet furina was the best selling banner lol by the way ash of echoes also flopped with a 1:1 ratio and tencent wasted a LOT OF ADVERTISING in that game and then they kicked it immediately but otherwise, look how happy they are with Mingchao, they have it as the advertising cover for their launcher WeGame

game developers know what the business is like, you idiots don't know shit and that's the reason no one listens to you.
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>>1667328
why you take random videos from bilibili dude they have as much credibility as LADS revenue in gachagaming
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>i-if it makes my precious femorrhoids look bad it's le fake
lole
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>>1667326
Normal players think that anime and waifus are like bread and butter, that's because they don't care 1:3 ratio, as long as the game was fun normies don't care about the cocka that you like, you're get fucked no matter how much you cry

normies are the ones who have the money, devs know that, not schizo womenm not schizo men
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>>1667331
poorina is an archon. lighter isn't
and why are you still deflecting to lighter instead of explaining why zzz is dying after shitting out 7 femorrhoids in a row
or since you keep bringing up genshit, explain why genshit's latest archon flopped after a year of femorrhoids despite being the first double release in the history of the game
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>LADS being top dog is just /r/gachagaming astroturfing
Huh, no wonder why China still isn't bothering with the female audiences.
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>>1667339
normies don't play games for waifupaggotry. trooncels cry about aloy and abby but their games outsold stellar flop, the supposed savior of gaming according to them
normies don't watch anime for waifupaggotry. the top animes in the world are shounens full of males and where femorrhoids are irrelevant
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>>1667343
r/gachadrama sisters...how long can we spout the excuses?
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>>1667341
this isn't the guy from X who keeps posting nonsense about incel games or something but he's so crazy that no one takes him seriously?
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>>1667344
keep crying you won't change anything, they know how the business is, you don't, it's that simple
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>>1667352
you're a mentally ill waifutrannoid. you don't represent men. it's that simple
otherwise all popular media in the world would be filled by femorrhoids and not males
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>>1667331
I've always thought the "Sumeru is homo" thing is way overblown. After all there were Nahida + Dehya + Nilou + Candace + Faruzan + Dori + Colette in 3.x along with tons of reruns. ZZZ didn't even rerun anything (because they had no male to rerun) and the only post-release male was A-rank Seth. So it was a true drought for female playerbase until they left.
>game developers know what the business is like
Where do you think you are? This entire thread is filled with people thinking they know more than developers. You included.
>Wuwa
Wuwa being advertised means Tencent is happy? That's new. I guess they were happy to take over a failing Kuro Games, true.
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>>1667358
holy schizo
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>>1667358
ok but cry more louder so the developers hear you lol
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>>1667339
It is incredible that these gender war stupid faggots still do not understand that they are little fries in the eyes of the developers and the only reason why they maintain the trend in these games almost irreversibly for more than 15 years is because these games are anime models, and that's how the normies understand it when anime became mainstream in addition to those that Genshin Impact invited during the covid and spread around to hsr, zzz and wuwa for being high-budget products that meet the standards of normal players.
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>>1667347
There's two, but the one you're talking about isn't here
That one is an actual ch*nk femcel schizo since it tweets plenty of anti-female chars from CN sources plus has an absolute broken english
There's a retarded anon in here that just reposts from that account, but it isn't the femcel
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>>1667371
Unfortunately devs are falling into the trap of listening to those gender war schizos. Developers should always listen to their fans, but there's a massive difference between listening to them and making bad decisions that may potentially jeopardize your entire company. Azur Promilia
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>>1667379
so they should listen to azur lane players? the people who funded the development of AP? cool i agree.
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>>1667383
If Mihoyo followed through with Honkai Impact 4 (Genshin's name used to be Honkai 4 project) they wouldn't have been as successful as they are now with Genshin.
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>>1667386
>Developers should always listen to their fans
changed your mind huh?
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>>1667387
I said there's a fine line between listening and making bad decisions. Meaning the ability to distinguish when you should listen or go with your gut feelings.
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>>1667386
na the success of genshin impact is due to covid and the subsequent success of their games is due to the brand, because they dedicated themselves to growing the intellectual property, it is like pokemon no matter how bad the game is, the brand will make it sell
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>>1667388
yeah, you're full of shit, you just want it to be another genshit clone
> they wouldn't have been as successful as they are now with Genshin
gave yourself away tranny, you think any real player cares if AP makes gorillions of dollars, so they can jerk off to made up revenue charts
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>>1667390
covid won't save a waifuflop simulator from flopping
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>>1667390
Honkai 4 would've driven away normalfags because it's a waifu game, set as sequel to previous games (meaning you have to have played the previous games first to understand the story), with sci-fi setting (no Mondstadt), and no popular 1.0 characters to carry its brand. The fact it popped off with such terrible monetization system hated by westerners (character gacha) was a miracle.
>>1667391
Weren't we talking from devs' point of views? Of course you as a player would be pissed, but you are not them.
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>>1667393
Look, I don't know if you're a gender war idiot or a troll, so I'll make it clear to you that same year Uma Musume (only female characters) made 900m and genshin impact 1.5b according to sensortower.

Do you know what the difference and similarity?

>difference: the first is only released in JP and the second in all GL
>similarity: both are release around covid-19

It's easy to understand, now put Uma Musume in a GL scenario and they would earn exactly the same as GI because covid-19
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>>1667127
They probably use it for coding as padjeet subtitute and I welcome the AI overlord for this. And some MTL to kick troons for simultaneous or faster global version I guess.
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>>1667397
1.5b on mobile + everything it earned on pc
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>>1667397
Uma Musume popped off thanks to Japanese horse racing culture that was integrated with Japanese idol culture, sold exclusively in Japan that did not care about gacha having real gameplay or high production value. Even now Japanese gachas tend to be low quality, either 2D png with low budget and barely any gameplay or PS2 3D graphics that couldn't be compared with China. But Genshin was a global phenomenon that resonated not only with China but all over the world because it has real gameplay, open world, and characters that can appeal to everyone. You're also ignoring games out there that released during COVID and failed to gain any traction. COVID wasn't a "100% success recipe".
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>>1667399
It is understood that it is only mobile since i mentioned sensortower
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>>1667405
oh actually, it's 1.5b on mobile (excluding cn android data) + everything it earned on pc
and like that other guy said, uma would've flopped on global so that's a nonfactor. only japan has horseracing autism which is why people played it DESPITE being a waifuflop simulator
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>>1667402
HSR only made 700m in mobiles when it was release, Uma Musume, which took advantage of Covid-19 and only with the Japanese mobile platform, made 900m, the impact of Covid-19 is huge.

post-covid ALL games released decreased even goddes of victory and ZZZ who made huge advertising expenditures but never reached covid-19 numbers
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>>1667408
Oh, I think you misunderstood me. COVID did help, but that doesn't mean any game were bound to be a massive success under COVID.
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>waifuflop simulator
stop quoting yourself faggot
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>>1667408
>only with the Japanese mobile platform
You forgot uma musume got PC client 1 month after its release.
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>>1667358
>I've always thought the "Sumeru is homo" thing is way overblown
No, retard. Sumeru irreversible hurt Genshin but because of a lot of dumb things happened in that region.

I will try to enlist, in order of what happened, all the ones I remember:
>last limited unit before Sumeru was Yelan, 5* tall female, strong and still one of the sexiest units Genshin has ever released
>Sumeru starts with Tighnari, one of the ugliest homos ever plus being a standard unit from the get-go
>next homo is Cyno, mediocre electro unit
>Candace releases with Cyno, she's the next 4* tall female but ends up being censored and having trash kit
>Nilou, 5* medium female, strong but very niche, people aren't that fond of her
>Nahida, 5* small female, powerhouse that breaks revenue records, all good
>Mihomo goes nuclear and releases THE CN MOST HATED HOMO, Scaramouche
>Sumeru's plot goes full retard by adding the Irminsul just to make Scarashit playable
>Scarashit gets shipbaited with Nahida, CN first meltdown
>people start complaining about the lack of 5* tall females for almost a whole fucking year
>next homo is Alhaitham, strong unit, no problem
>finally the next 5* tall female release, Dehya, but ends up being slightly censored, has one of the worst kits ever and ends up being a fucking standard unit
>people go apeshit and the #FIXDEHYA goes trending on twitter
>Sumeru is in a complicated situation now, and what does Mihomo do? RELEASES FUCKING KAVEH
>Kaveh is the most blatant and disgusting yaoibait ever
>to end on a high note, Mihomo decides for 1 year of 5* homos until Furina comes out

I think I got it all. As you can see, Sumeru was an absolute shitshow and Genshin never recovered from it.
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>>1667408
hsr was active for 8 months and 1 week in 2023. horseshit was active for 10 months and 1 week in 2021.
and again, numbers for shart rail don't include cn android (massive market) + pc sales
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>>1667409

but practically everyone did well, the biggest income was honor of king 2.2b, it was crazy and just look at pokemon go 1.2b and no one was supposed to leave their houses, but look now at 2024 honor of king 900m and 500m for pokemong Go, covid-19 definitely increased and denormalized a lot of games, even FGO reached its highest revenue, even surpassing those of its release.
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>>1667413
nah tranny. i'll make it simple for you
if waifutrannoids quit genshit because of sumeru, how come 0 waifuflop simulators saw a boost in sales after it?
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>>1667415
He continued earning less in mobiles, that's a fact, one was only in JP and the other GL.
but the second one did not have covid-19 boost
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>>1667416
But those games were all revolutionary and of good quality, anon. Think of COVID like a +50% buff to sales but if your game is already a flopping piece of crap not even +50% buff would help it. Speaking with gamer term. That's why it's called COVID buff.
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>>1667421
>He continued earning less in mobiles
nope. no cn android data
with cn android data, shart rail would mog horseshit (buffed by covid)
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>>1667413
add this too >>1665003, even in fontoilet men got ass shading and balls jiggle, while women got censored and long shorts. They didn't omnipander, they pandered only to fujos, gays, femcels
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>>1667413
This is from 4chan's point of view but since content and characters were planned years in advance the most likely scenario was that Mihoyo predicted nobody would roll for ugly Tighnari and black Dehya so they put no effort on these characters.
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>>1667423

>uma musume only JP
>HSR GL

Let's suppose you add CN's, how much do you think it adds? If HSR actually has a higher revenue in JP than in CN, said by the same mihoyo lol and yet Uma Musume made 900m in a single country, it's a FACT And if you launch it to GL in covid-boost, how much do you get?
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>>1667427
And yet, Dehya made more than several of the male characters of that region, go figure, lmao
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>>1667431
Yes, because prediction is just that. Prediction. All those years people were asking for strong black woman character and naysayers said "she won't sell, nobody likes black women".
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>>1667423
Even if you add CN it is confirmed that HSR actually earned less than Genshin Impact during covid-19 period so probably 1.2b was more or less what HSR earned if you include CN because Genshin earned 1.5b
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>>1667431
why lie tranny? dehya got 12 tiktok hours and couldn't even outsell baizhu who got 18 tiktok hours
in fact, sumeru males sold better on average than all the femorrhoids in inazuma because kokotroon yoimiya and shenhe (carried by xiao) dragged the average down
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>>1667436
Nobody cares about tiktok chinese asshole, it doesn't tell us anything, we are Americans and we use totally different data and Sensortower reported more revenue in Dehya than in Fontaine's crap, except for Furina
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>>1667430
>how much do you think it adds
more than enough to mog horseshit (buffed by covid)
>HSR actually has a higher revenue in JP than in CN
only recently because shart rail is flopping in cn now. if you look at lifetime sales it's 39% from china (ios only) and 26% from japan (ios+android)
>>1667439
facts don't care about your feelings xis
china spends more than the entirety of global combined
that's why hok is consistently the bestselling game in the world despite making 98% of its money in china even without cn android data
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>>>>>>dehya
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>>1667452
THE WORMS WERE DEFEATED BY A STANDARD BRICK LMAO
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>>1667455
genshit's sales are 38% china (ios only), 22% japan and 16% us
then there's the fact that ios only has a 22% market share in china while android has 77%
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>>1667455
the only thing that stands out for China in 2024 is honor of king and DNF lol
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[HUGE DRAMA]
This is the REAL and UNEDITED version of this video!!!!!!
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>>1667459
Recently, a US government entity reported that Genshin Impact did 4b in the USA due to the sanction imposed on it, that is definitely more than China.
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ching chong underestimates the purchasing power of Americans but does not realize that GFL2 is saved when they come out of that black well
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>>1667468
>GFL2 is saved
yeah haha... >>1664056
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>>1667465
>>1667469
all these doomposting wormniggers, yet it's doing great, i don't understand, i thought femorrhoids flopped?
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>>1667468
Pretty sure he knows at this point since he's trying to speed global up and is giving us little exclusive dev videos and stuff
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>>1667469
I mean, what I'm telling you comes from the FTC (agency), what you're linked comes from a paid journalist and a portal of little recognition
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>>1667472
they had a better honeymoon in GL than in CHINA, that cesspool full of schizos is only death
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Game developers only focus on China because the money is good, or they're stuck there as a company. Nobody wants to deal with their schizo antics.
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i have always noticed that GFL2 actually did it nice, they used chinese people as guinea pigs to improve the game and when they released it to global it already had all the basic QQL, while those schizophrenics had to suffer, they deserve it
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>>1667473
those are lifetime sales xis. the year of femorrhoids flopped no matter how hard you cope seethe and dilate >>1664615
it got bad enough to push them into releasing another 5* alongside the archon to save her from flopping too hard
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>>1667475
so did they mention anything about cn sales for you to draw this conclusion "that is definitely more than China."?
every revenue site puts china above us in terms of spending on genshit. the games that the us spends on aren't anime gachas like genshit
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>>1667484

But it is real, the US market is larger in 2024. Those 4b of Genshin Impact not only come from mobiles, they come from PC, PS5 won the best parnert 3 times in a row on the PS.

china top market is only mobile and even then, the only thing that stands out when you look only at mobiles is honor of king because DNF is from neople/nexo KR although it is published by Tencent
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>>1667487
>the US market is larger in 2024
i really don't give a shit about your us vs cn war. i'm talking about genshit's sales. and genshit definitely isn't the face of the us market. it's dominated by casual games like monopoly and roblox, not gachashit
>PC, PS5
these aren't exclusive to the us. also, the last award they got had to count data from the past 3 years. likely because genshit's revenue nosedived in 2024
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>>1667472
>global launch made 4-6 times of CN launch
Yes.
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>>1667472
Hey, does anyone saved GFL2 month to month chart that was posted here a few thread ago? The one where it was CN only and there was a massive jump with global release.
The narrative going on here is that from December 2023 to January 2024 CN there was like 90% drop immediately but now I'm not so sure that was the case.
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>>1667519
it did drop but it was never really big to begin with
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>>1667525
Obviously it dropped. But is the rumored 90% drop true was it the more organic, gradual drop?
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>>1667355
Your western words don't work on my yuro ass. Pulling out these -oid terms are the same like those who think calling someone racist outside america works as an insult.
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>>1667479
>Game developers only focus on China because the money is good
This, gimme 1 gacha from China where Global revenue (meaning US and EU servers) together beats the CN revenue, they just don't exist except for Lilith games and Lilith is the odd one out since their games' whole aesthetics are made for a global audience literally every other Ch*nk gacha their main player base is still in CN.
>>1667480
>while those schizophrenics had to suffer, they deserve it
Without CN schizo antics GFL2 global would still be censoredshit. You have to thank them to make devs uncensor your game.
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>>1667556
You can discount EU from that anyway, we are mostly the remaining sane side of the globe that if they know something is free, not many would willingly spend money on it. Says a lot when Germany is there with 1% here and there so every other EU country is even less. Makes it even worse when you know this is CN iOS only, so the CN pie cut is way bigger in reality. Wuwa was the only one that even had an EU country separately, all the other games merge all of EU with the remaining small spender countries for an 8-10% cut.
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>>1667432
Anime brown girls aren't the same as ugly DEI characters.
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The schizo might actually be a woman. Ignoring facts and yelling the same thing over and over is how they argue. It's not very effective and that's why they replaced them with trannies.
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>>1667581
what happened in may 2023 to kill the game
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>>1667584
Wormveh and fujoshit pandering to subhumans like the axe wound troon that shitposts here.
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>>1667585
I only like top right and Furina.
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>>1667585
I see like 5 good designs
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>>1667569
Or maybe xhe is gay man. But whatever that is, xhe is woman in xir behavior.
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>>1667585
Making Lynette the 4star instead of that femboy bait fuck should have been a crime in itself.
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>>1667595
I'm sure they regretted it after with how badly wormney flopped and how popular lynette is in contrast lol, but what can you do, homo game run by retarded vaginas.
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>>1667595
>>1667597
Think the idea was to give people the female character for free, just like how Sumeru did Collei and Natlan did Kachina
Its kind of a lose-lose situation because giving people a free female character to engage with region mechanics(pneuma/osia in Fontaine and traversal skills in Natlan) without rolling the gacha is a good idea, but then you also end up making the first banner of the region a faggot shota
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>>1667604
They certainly learned the lesson about not making any more faggot shotas and potato buddypokes into 5* in star rail, which says more about how badly they do in revenue than any imagined number flinging via sensortower and the like ever could.
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>>1667604
>but then you also end up making the first banner of the region a faggot shota
I mean, Natlan had blue ochako as the first banner and that still flopped, so I don't think there is any correlation between those. If people like a character, they will get it, if not, then not. And this was proven multiple times too. Heck, as much as ZZZ boasted up Burnica on social media, she sold worse than Yanagi with hardly any marketing done for her.
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>>1667607
>and potato buddypokes into 5* in star rail
Tribbie is next patch dude
>>1667608
>first banner and that still flopped, so I don't think there is any correlation between those
Because people save for the archon, their constellations and weapon, thats why. The girl was given for free, and the shota was set up to die before the archon came out
Admitedly even that logic has flaws since Furina isn't even the archon but ehh
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>>1667608
Of course within females there are plenty of ugly ones no one likes that megaflop (Like ghe glasses whore in floptaine and the one you mentioned), but with faggy shotas they all flop with the singular exception being scarashit, which didn't do amazing either and still got outsold by fujobaits.
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>>1667612
>Tribbie is next patch dude
First one in nearly 2 years, and absolutely no one gives a shit about her, she's going to flop worse than Argenti. You won't see another one.
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not a true drama but worth mentioning it
global blue archive players are going to lose a lot of foresight since the current difference is around 6-7 months
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>>1667624
>nooo why do we have to wait 6 months to get the new stuff
>nooo why are you lowering the delay
make up your fucking mind
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>>1667624
Is this really a drama? Being behind by any amount is always bad if you actually like the game. That's how I've seen most people feel about gachas with a delayed schedule at least.
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>>1667625
what’s it called when retards generalized two groups of people with opposing views
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>>1667624
Seems like a win/win to me. Close the gap but you've still got foresight for planning. It'd only be a problem if you roll like a tard.
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>>1667237
this isnt a real game
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>>1667494
fun fact: since Genshin Impact was successful, your shitty gachashit from China does everything possible to suck the dick of the United States, that's why many games are released multiplatform, and that's why developers try so hard to put homo shit even though we know that CHINA DOESN'T LIKE IT
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>>1667624
nexon needs more money to fund their new project
BAfags better be ready
>>>/vg/512260809
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>linking your own post on /vg/
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>>1667631
It's not, global players, and specially the koreans, have been complaining about being 6 months behind ever since they stopped accelerating in 2023
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>>1667669
>PC version for a game directed toward JP
Retard alert
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fucking shitty Chinese don't realize that the United States is the center of the world, it's obvious that their developers will come to try to get us to invade their games because no one wants to deal with a bunch of schizophrenic mentally ill people-

you better thank Trump you shitty faggots who their games are turning straight or else you guys would be eating Kaveytham's cock for longer.
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>>1667688
>genshin impact releasethe first region based on popular western shit and it is successful
>wuthering waves release the first region based on popular chinese wuxia shit or whatever and it flop
well at least kuro realized it in time and changed the whole situation in rinascita
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>>1667694
China just isn't that interesting as a setting. It feels like they want to replicate the cultural impact that Japan had with old anime but they don't have the soul.
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>>1667694
same reasons because HSR releases JARILO-VI first and not LUOFU, just no one likes cn crap
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>>1667704
The only interesting thing about China is the technology and their sluts. Never cared about their folklore and aesthetics. Their history is cool tho.
Thing is it should've been more modern, the abandoned city was nice.
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>>1667728
>Their history is cool tho
Indeed otherwise we won't have gorillions of three kingdoms adaptations. Gachashit is just the worst medium to show it, not to mention that they're borrowing japanese anime style for their characters.
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>>1667704
china isn’t interesting as a setting but japan stuff in video games is so overdone, i feel like every online game has some japanese map or character
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Friend at NGA did some research
https://i.imgur.com/kQa2f5l.png
>GI/HSR/ZZZ
>iOS only, both global + CN
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>>1667755
forgot the source
https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=43154606
fun fact: CN region drops faster than global, probably the main reason why ZZZ was trying to pander to the west instead
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>>1667755
Isn't Mihomo dead if revenue keeps declining like this this year?
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>>1667758
define dead
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>>1667758
ubisoft is still alive despite making negative profit
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>>1667760
layoffs, decline in production capacity, decline in advertising, all leading to a downward spiral until game is in maintenance mode.

kinda happening with Genshin already to think about it.
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>>1667760
dawei can't commission three superyacht a year anymore
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>>1667767
dawei just asked for more money from government like sama did
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Endfield will sweep the gacha market when it releases
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>>1667758
two more weeks sister!
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>>1667757
>>1667757
there were 2 anons arguing about who generated more revenue for mihomo, it turns out that global seems to be the upward trend recently, now it all makes sense as to because these high budget gachagames want to leave china, pack it up boy CN is dead although i think more than all west JP, KR and USA seem to be the priority.
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You know.. when you think about these companies in terms of relationships, things become a bit more clear. Seasun is like that virgin that never got much play from women. He dated an ugly miserable whore who had nothing to offer, so he eventually dumps her and hooks up with this crazy yandere bitch (MLfags) with a fat ass and beautiful face. The bitch is crazy but her pussy is too good so she milks him into docility. They get married and she's a controlling bitch that runs his life, but she's hot and slurps and rides his cock at knife point every morning so it works. But what about hoyo? This mfer might be the actual harem king. He's fucking like 30 different girls at once and they all know it. Self Inserts, Yurikeks, Fujos and Yumes are all collectively getting fucked at the same time. Hoyo raw dogs yurikeks while locking lips with fujos, all while yumes and self inserts sit in the corner and watch. When he's about to bust, he unloads on self insert-kun and yume's faces and they smile with appreciation, ahegao faces and double peace signs.
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>>1667789
Kuro saw this and wanted in on the action too. His massive cock, spear-loaded by his daddy Tencent's genetics (money) made him eager to get his dick wet. So he tried to pull some bitches of his own but a problem occured! Word on the street was, hoyo been playing bitches left and right. No loyalty to these whores whatsoever! These bitches had enough! So kuro panicked, of course. His options became much wiser because of hoyo slinging his dick recklessly. So Kuro tried spitting some sweet game in hopes to dick down a couple sluts here and there(during beta), but the pressure got too much. His main bitch (rover selfinserts), got wind of his shenanigans. You see, this bitch (rover selfinserts) isn't like Seasun's wife (MLfags). Her pussy game isn't as good, but she's quite slender and beautiful. She's not a crazy whore who stalks her man and threatens to cut his dick off in every argument, so it's a bit easier for Kuro to cheat on her. So Kuro, gets to tap a little ass on the side from his side pieces (husbandomains) and goes home to his fiance every night. "As long as he comes home to me, that's all that matters" she says. Why fiance? Because Kuro will never commit to her. She asks Kuro when he'll finally marry her and he smiles and kisses her passionately without any answer. Very smooth Kuro, you old dog. Of course, she always forgets after his affectionate display and has no choice but to accept that he has mistresses. It's clear Kuro doesnt want to tie himself down to one woman.
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>>1667790
But what about Mica? Mica has always had 2 bitches in his life since childhood. Bitch A (lorefags) and Bitch B (skk self inserts). You see.. Bitch A was always loyal to Mica. So what's the problem? The problem is she's ugly and hideous. When Mica makes love to her, he has to close his eyes or else he can't get erect. So he offsets the experience by inviting Bitch B for threesomes. They sometimes get along, but Mica got a bit too greedy one day. "These two whores ain't puttin' out enough", he thought to himself. So he tried to slide into the DMs of another whore (raymond drama). So Bitch B (skk self inserts) hired a private investigator to catch Mica cheating. Unfortunately, he got caught with his pants down in a cheap motel with blow smeared on his face. He almost lost everything. Feeling humiliated and emotionally bankrupt, Mica had no choice but to risk it all. He posted himself half naked on tinder and his line blew up! Tons of interest, all by women globally too! You see, Mica used to be kinda mid in the looks department. But somehow overnight he became quite a tall and handsome stud. He even hit the gym and got in shape! Things are looking up for Mica it seems. He decided to book an international flight to go meet some of these stunning foreign ladies. However, Bitch A wants to tag along. "It's okay if you fuck other women, Mica baby, I don't mind." Bitch A knows she doesn't have the looks or the body to satify Mica's needs so she allows him to do his thing. Her faith and loyalty to her man can move mountains itself. Such a loving story.
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>>1667755
i honestly never understood because people said that china generated more money when the only consistent game from chinese studio that generates money is honor of king and the rest only live in the decline of mihomo's shadow and since mihomo began to suffer the decline, honor of King is alone as only representative of china.
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I'm not reading that
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>>1667792
>>1667790
>>1667789
holy ESL im not reading that shit
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just bake already
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>>1667785
>now it all makes sense as to because these high budget gachagames want to leave china
It's fucking dumb for you to believe that considering mobile revenue in CN was up 5% from last year.
Fact is there's a ton more mobile games being developed in China than ever before so they're spreading out to more franchises, like Naraka and DNF probably took a good chunk of players from other mobile games last year. But those games aren't gacha so people here just don't give a fuck.
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>>1667800
>It's fucking dumb for you to believe that considering mobile revenue in CN was up 5% from last year.
and who says it? a media chinese? ha ha ha
and even if it were true, all of those 5% is probably from Tencent that games publishes in China and many were not manufactured by Chinese studios are acquired from foreign studies lol


>DNF from neople/nexon/kr
>naraka 24 Entertainment but its flop
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>>1667800
shut up you fucking retarded chinese monkey it's obvious that your developers don't give a shit about you anymore.
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wait is endfield out?
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>>1667805
>and who says it?
Look at that pic someone here posted about mihoyo's revenue tanking while overall mobile revenue in CN is actually still doing pretty good (it's the one with the gachagaming thread on it)
>DNF from neople/nexon/kr
The devs literally said in their financial reports that they made the game specifically for the CN audience (I literally read one of the reports and it said so) so yeah the CN audience actually matters here.
>naraka
It actually topped the charts in CN for a while though. You ignorant anons just didn't know about it.
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>>1667815
what you say doesn't make sense because everything above in 2024 is basically Western with an american tinge, the fact that a low-budget piece of shit like Monopoly beats many high-budget Chinese games already says a lot.

>DNF is from NEXON, it was made with art from KR, it is for Korean tastes, not Chinese, the game was published on CN without changing practically anything from its KR version ha ha ha

>naraka is flop dude and netease is also in decline, the only video game company that remains is tencent, CHINA IS DEAD and so that chinese developers who are not Tencent can have a plate of food, they have to suck western cocks lol
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>>1667815
>The devs literally said in their financial reports that they made the game specifically for the CN
will you also say that NIKKE last hope is from china for chinese people tastes when it is published? when it was made for koreans?
>It actually topped the charts in CN for a while though.
kekw the only one that china has is honor of king and in the past genshin impact, the general tendency of your developers is to move to the global to look for money because they can no longer find it in their country of origin, that is a reality, bark all you want chinese dog your developers are clearly investigating foreign trends
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Youfags need to have a reality check about "foreign trends" by looking at Homoverse games, forget about whatever random gacha you're thinking of just look at hoyo.
Fact is their games are getting less popular with global players every time they release a new one, like Genshin is the biggest, then Star Rail, and then ZZZ has the smallest share of global players compared to the East. Just use this website to factcheck >>1667560
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Damn you retards are more mentally ill than /vg/ trannies.
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>>1667528
https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Wx4y1k7tm/
It dropped 59% on the second month. It was a pretty common drop for most gachashit.
What wasn't normal was it not stopping the drop after 3 months and reaching 500k. A result of spending 3 months releasing no content in the most crucial time of its lifespan.
Retards trying to push any other narrative are chinks from the genshit tieba leak forums. They are obsessed with this shit.
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>>1667792
OOOOOOOOOOOH OOOOOOOOOH AAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAH AAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>1667841
I agree.
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>>1667789
>>1667790
>>1667792
I think this thread finally hit a new level of stupidity.
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>>1667815
after seeing all the gachagame developers from china in 2024 sucking IGN's dick to advertise their games, i am completely agree with the other anon, china is in decline and the devs are looking for foreign money.
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>sucking IGN's dick
i saw it too that was the sad reality
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>>1667694
Well, they already got rid of the wuxia wank from the start so that's good
It's very likely we will get a korea based region considering how good the game does there, and I want to see how that goes
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>>1667815
>GFL2 pays for an extremely expensive advertising campaign in New York's Time Square to announce GL launch
>wuwa pays for an extremely expensive advertising campaign also in New York's time square for the game launch
>ZZZ pays Ellon Musk a ton of money for exclusive stickers on X for the release
>HSR spend an absurd amount of money to the Olympic committee to advertise the game in the Paris Olympic 2024
the signs are there fag, you just don't want to see them
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>>1667889
It's not as expensive as you think. It ranges between 5k and 50k if google is to be believed.
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>>1667565
Doesn't matter, being brown is against eastern beauty standards. Brown and black girls are considered dirty and ugly. Skin whitening sell like hotcakes over there.
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>>1667958
that's just normalfags opinion
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>>1667962
Nope, black woman is a very niche fetish. You can see vast majority of gacha games or anime feature fair-skinned jade beauties. Just because you have black woman fetish doesn't mean normal people do.
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Imagine limit reached, so here's a new thread.

>>1667975
>>1667975
>>1667975
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Image*
What a stupid brainfart error
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>zero activity in burger hours
never escaping the thirdie general allegations



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