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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsXJayHAmmUOUR GOD Saintontas is very vocal and he's not happy, Azur Promilia should add males and remove lolis and shorties, full stop.
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^snowxister isn't part of the team
the poster above me is a hoyoxister
>without the sensor Tower inflated multipliers this is what hoyo looks like in an actual PC chartProving again that they put that chink numbers cause of butthurt
>>1815359i dont get it, thats a good chart for them
>>1815359>epic gamesDunni what i'm supposed to feel about it.
>>1815359>Fortnite occupying 2/5 slots in most popularWaow
So Endfield dropped a new trailer during the Gamescom stream. Despite having a huge opportunity to show off new info and gameplay, all they had to show after 8 months of silence was 1 new character. Not even gameplay of her, just a cinematic shot. I genuinely think this game is not coming out until 2027 at the earliest. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHDjs71AH7g
>>1815393Game of the year bros! It deserves all the awards even before release.
>>1815343This is the audience they wanted now they can drown with it. Play dumb games, get dumb prices.
>>1815393Hypergryph is a soi studio and soi studios can't make games. Endfield is going to be the concord of gachas.
>>1815343Is this really what manjuu wanted?
>>1815393What about their booth
>>1815359Fortnite won bigly
>>1815415>Oh no another nintendo lawsuit
>>1815415Uh oh! Hoyobros are our fandoms ridden with redditors, gays and femoids?? Why're they behaving like this???Imaginary Indians won't be able to save us from this one!
>>1815430>saintontas>hoyobrosdorofag...
>>1815343just play AKE?
>>1815420Nintendo literally lost against Palworld on their own turf despite having more resources.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_HuRLkyW8YI don't think Nintendo have the guts to sue the chinks companies which FAR powerful than Nintendo.
>>1815434Will they bring back pal gliding though?
>>1815415>Should have skipped the lolis and added more dudes.Xisters this is completely correct.
>>1815343>typical wuwajeet is a fagMore news at eleven
>>1815415I was telling anons wuwa is the faggest game with the gayest community, but they didn't listen...
>>1815441But /gdg/ told me it's an ML game with a heterosexual fanbase...
>>1815443It's ML game for faggots. Male characters there look literally like they came from LaDs, while women have weird anatomy and masculine faces. Their CEO meets Tim Cook in private, he is also likes to go the gym and photo himself halfnated. And is a personal friend of Dawei, Kuro is super gay.
we r/gachadrama support the removal of feMC from azur promilia
>>1815447I'd rather not waste my time on a fruitless endeavor. The "remove the female MC" thing lost all momentum after this beta.
>>1815443Westoids will play any popular game
>>1815451>muh precious timeyou're posting here clearly you don't value your time
>>1815455>any popular gameAny game played by their lord and master the "Twitch_Streamer_Name"!
>>1815456You're already shifting the conversation to be about me and not your silly little protest. Good luck with it, you're gonna need it.
>I'd rather not waste time /here/>>Ok then go fuck yourself>Why do you make it about me??
>>1815457Streamers are just another arm of marketing.
>>1815462That's what I said!Just buy enough streamers and vtubers!
>>1815415>betray your loyal audience for the genshin tranny audience>they hate your gameit's going to be fun watching this flop, it has no audience, only the extremely vocal tiny minority of yuritroons seem to be obsessed with this garbage
>>1815415>They dont look like lolis, the look more like babies.Well hes not wrong about this part, most of the "lolis" are just copying genshit's potato proportions instead of hebe little girls ones so i cant say ill look forward to the lolis at all.
>>1815415>walked away from their loyal sons for these daughters (sons)
>>1815335Frankly speaking, Azur Promilia's audience is even narrower than ZZZ.No male character means women won't play it.Loli characters means westerners won't play it.Somehow it's a farming game which mainly appeals to women (a 2017 study found that 69% farm sim genre players are women).FeMC exists which means it's not ML.It has bull NPCs and furry NPCs.It's even surrounded by major releases such as Endfield, NTE, DNA, HoK World, and Honkai Nexus Anima.But since it's a high budget gacha, it cannot be niche.So who exactly are their target demographics?
>>1815487>So who exactly are their target demographics?Lesbians
>>1815335what is gacha?
>>1815489gacha nuts
>>1815473Coomkeks didn't seem to be that impressed either, flat painted underwears, some wear spats, upskirt fade, the lack of inflated bimbos and suggestive humors, also;>focusing on facial expression>waste it on the most vapid, platonic (You) panderingBrilliant.
Lmao anyone who thinks that AP will flop is stupid. It's floor is ZZZ levels of revenue but it has a high ceiling.
>>1815496>floor is zzz levelRemember, when talking about gacha games, 1 + 1 < 1
>>1815487Women will probably play it. Pic related is the most popular character in R1999. They are not allergic to cutesy characters.
>>1815496Other (bigger) game companies will make sure AP will never reach its ceiling. Next year's releases are too crowded for AP to stand out among the rest. Not to mention the moment Tencent announces HoK World release date https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ajmBbXJlY&pp=ygUJaG9rIHdvcmxk the entire China will drop everything to whale on it.
>>1815499>dyke harembut of course, it's only applicable to games that try to please everyone
>>1815499Budget difference aside (AP will need much higher income to sustain itself) R1999 isn't even comparable to AP because AP refusing to have male characters can be taken as Manjuu saying "we don't want women here"
>>1815496>criticizes AP>hoyotranny swoop in to defend the gameclockwork
>>1815499the story is what carries R1999, azur lane has a garbage story, I'm sure AP is going to have a generic fantasy story. Normies and women are obssessed with having a good story, Azur Lane does well because men skip 90% of the wordslop.
>first pv>2022-03-15still no release date?
>>1815511I honestly just think they revealed it way too early
>>1815511first time?
>>1815487>it's not ML.It clearly is, if you not a chink schizo of course
>>1815516they probably just put the least effort into developing that game since their main one makes billion already
[FUNNY NEWS] ML community destroyed itself in less than a year
>>1815487>So who exactly are their target demographics?Me.
[SAD NEWS] Hoyoshills and their fans were baited into staying up all night, only for Gamescom to show nothing related to Genshin.
>>1815487>FeMC exists which means it's not ML.You know that term comes from FGO right?
>>1815487>Loli characters means westerners won't play it.wrong. I'm fucking those portable onaholes
>>1815536Not even FGO is ML anymore. Only Snowbreak is true ML.
>>1815550Wuwa is ML bro.
>>1815521>If you don't lick Snowbreak, you're expelled from the Spicy Immortal groupKEEEEEEKKKKK
>>1815550This is the same game that has multiple married couples, cuckbait and cuckshit female characters. How is this shit ever ML?
>>1815536Wrong. It originates from the master-servant relationship in fate series.
>genshin fans: we are back to the roots! no more homoshit!>dawei: not so fast gweilos
>>1815580only the first game gets qualified to be ML and that's only because of it's nature as an old school eroge. Fate was always a glorified battle shounen narrative first and never a heterosexual harem series so idk whose genius idea was for chinks to adopt that term in the first place
>>1815597It was undoubtedly a juvenile take and i won't be surprised if the guy who coined the term still writhing in embarrassment to this day but yeah it's literally harem.
>>1815487AP's audience are BA playersAnd i'm in
>>1815555because the ratio between servants who are willing to burn everything for (You)r dick and cuck servants with their own pairings is like 7:1
>>1815580>>1815597This isn't up for debate you utter retards. It's a fucking pixiv tag for FGO.
>pixiv
>>1815592Is that??? A male!?!?
>>1815616fgo is so ML xis, (You) get to watch
>>1815625can you at least bring up at least ten other cuck servants who aren't bryn if you think fgo is the land of cuckoldry? even before sigurd came into picture no one really gave a shit about her
No context to this xisters '-'
[SAD NEWS] Snowbreak is declining...
>>1815642snowbreak is what happened when you overcompensated your game's flaws with ML panderingthey forgot that they need to write an actual story instead of just full-time ML pandering. they had the right formula during Katya-Cherno patches but somehow they abandoned it after the 1st event.
>>1815652Brown Dust 2 is going in that direction too
>>1815655poop dust is even dumber, that game has no fucking self insert avatar and yet somehow they still went to snowbreak route
kingshit Q2snowbreak made around 18-20mil USD from the end of 2.6 to 2.8 game version, a drop from last year.their biggest game(mmo) dropped too.
>>1815652Snowbreak's problem is that they let their favouritism win over. There are like 4 or 5 girls that get a lot of screentime and others get shafted.
>>1815661how much drop?
>>1815652>ML panderingObsessed
>>1815652ML pandering or coompandering is unfortunately often used as a way for game developers to mask their own incompetence. There's a reason why desperate games near EoS would suddenly go ML/coom without fail. But unlike Snowbreak, those games didn't come back up and just faded away.
>>1815432looks like a literal dog. insane
>>1815663I've seen that complaint a couple of times now.
to say a game “came back” implies that it regained some popularity, which is not the case for SB the game is dead as fuck and has 0 fandom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bW0Swlzmfrkwhat do we think about this guy calling saint a schizo with his headcanons about people being paid to shit on wuwa
Mihoyo and Tencent have a lawsuit on September 5th>The case reason has been categorised as "Other civil dispute". Situations that fall under this category include certain IP rights, property custody, and family disputes.>Some CN users speculate that this is a dispute over access to the personal information of leakers who use Tencent's platforms to spread leaks (on apps like WeChat, QQ).>Tencent is well-known for having a strong legal team with a high success rate in court, so this may be a difficult case for Mihoyo
>>1815675launched snowbreak never had amy semblance of cult following, let alone popularity so technically speaking the game is still in a better place compared to its pre-katya period
>>1815685Saintontas thrives on drama and clickbaiting, the dude is nothing beyond your average dramafag, i particularly don't find him offensive...until...he starts talking about his tastes or wuwa. This is just feeding him.
>>1815687huh
>>1815592LMAO
>>1815592>ignoring the forced diversity character
>>1815675SB added NTR, it needs to die.
>>1815675Comparatively, mecha break has the average player of starfield at the moment. They're shit at marketing. Even the coom can't save it either.
>>1815688All the cult following SB gets is ironic as it is used for shitposting purposes
>>1815655Browndust has an actual story and is rapidly growing though.
>>1815521>momlostSo that's what ML stands for....
>>1815773Wrong, and they're removing wokeness.
>>1815787>they're removing wokenessI didn't know being a man was woke
all of this is happening because the devs refuse to add intimate scenes of Emma, since they see it as NTRing one of the male characterswhen your prioritize a fucking fictional male character over your players, it's no surprise the retaliation is going this far
bro lmao
>>1815811what
>>1815819israelhttps://x.com/NIKKE_en/status/1958216551406109048
>>1815811pfffffttt whatyiiikes
>>1815820at this point the dev's seem to prefer putting other games in nikke more than having actual nikke events...
>>1815811That's random. Are they gonna have Leon shaking his ass on screen? I'm sure there are millions of other IPs that would've been a better pick but I guess they wanna attract RE players. They're normalfags so they won't like NIKKE.
>>1815829They probably want the audience that faps to resident evil porn more than the people who play the game.
>>1815811>Capcom censors their own game but will allow collab with gooner games
>>1815886nikke is normalfag slop
>>1815597I don't know why MLfags don't go play eroge games instead of trying to force every single gacha to be one.
>>1815910Their behavior is not different from yurifags and femcels, but that's the big elephant in the room they don't want you to point out.
>>1815910Nobody is trying to turn your Hoyoslop into a straight game lil bro
>>1815910I like collecting an infinite amount of girls and build them up which eroge doesnt do. Plus most eroge have to be porn sims where the characters are just template models if not that the main character isnt even a self insert.
>>1815910MLfags shit up the place same way as femcels do.I just hope devs get fed up with that trash minorities and start gatekeeping both type of cancer (like Azur Promilia does for instance)Don't ever kneel to shitty people with malignant intentions if you aim to have nice lasting games with comfy communities. Trash stays outside.
>>1815910they want high quality porn with a budget of a AAA studio but are too poor to just pay an artist to get their fix so they gotta make it everyone else's problem
>>1815910any examples?
>>1815910Most eroge with ML are just VNsMost eroge with gameplay are not ML
Snoggers will straight up look at you with lyfe pushed into irrevelence and say "wer're so heckin' back and anyone who disagrees with me is a "raider"
>irrevelencegood morning sir
>brown ladyboys are madwhere did the ML touch you saar?
>>1815968what level of faggotry is this? post some substantial drama or insult a game instead of coming here to cry
>day one player
>>1815976SnowCope:EOS Zone https://ir.kingsoft.com/static-files/d61c946e-b0fe-47b6-9404-124dc8a6ca0e
>>1815661>>1815993it's over
>>1815955You got xim
>>1815788>he wants faggotry and NTRNeck yourself
>>1815910>>1815922Stop samefagging
>>1815661how much did they earn last year as a relative comparison?
>>1816005no investor cared enough to keep track of the numbers or mention the game until Q4 2024it's a drop compared to Q2 2024 is all I know.kingshit overall revenue still grew by 67mil USD compared to last year's quarter so they are fine for now
>>1815811>throwing anything at the wall to see what stickswho's the next collab, naruto?
Where were you the last several patches, Mr. Day 1 player? Did you try GF2, get bored and come back crying?I'm not blaming you, Snowbreak simply has the most fun gameplay right now among gachas if you are not into open worlds.
>>1815661Is around 6 to 6.6mil per month supposed to be bad? That's far higher than what the meme chart showed with only 3.1mil total for the entire April to June.
>>1816043Hey, the narrative must be maintain, See how no one mention the numbers?
>>1815811Man, what the fuck is it with Nikke's shit taste in collabs? Destiny Child was never this faggy with the collabs.>>1815829I think it's gonna be a costumes-only collab like Dave the Diver. I mean, I guess they could try to fit in Ada Wong or Jill Valentine but realistically speaking, RE girls have no more star power than DMC girls.
>>1816043Want to know how much of a joke the meme chart really is especially for the ones at the top of the rankings? Nikke supposedly actually made 32.92mil in the second quarter but the meme chart had them at 53.45 mil from April to June.
>>1816061i love jill and ada, but i'd rather not have them because knowing shit-up and crapcom, they are going to wear burkas like evangelion
>>1815993So...the same as genkek? Is genkek will EoS too along with snowkek? Do we finally free from all the gender war bs fellow xister?
>>1816043>>1816064>Monthly gacha revenue chart has snowkek's numbers far lower than what they actually make.>They also have Nikke's numbers far higher than what they actually make.gachagaming bros???
>>1816064wtf that's a massive gap. those damn things really are meme charts after all.
>>1816069genkek is persona non-grata to the troons now
Anybody have that ZZZ chart that's usually floating around? I wanna check something.Also when is their next big update?
Let's discuss figurine salesNote that if the price looks too low then it's only the preorder fee
>>1815910I am already playing fanza gachas and no way I'm touching mihomo games, MLfags's slogan is literally support all mixed toilet descision making by asking to release Klee's dad or remove MMC from AP because they won't play these games anyway
>>1816077This is on Taobao only, Azur Lane will probably be way higher if we count JP
>>1816077qrd bro?
is snowbreak dying? cause they have less income than their previous anniversary.
>>1816111If making around 6m a month during their "low months" is dying then I guess a lot of games are zombies.
>>1816111yes, anyday now, i'm trans btw
>>1816112>6Mlmaooooo
>>1816116Did you read the thread xis? The meme charts are in shambles right now.
>>1816116It came to xim in a dream of course.
>>1816121You got him xister.
>>1816121>>1816123Now let's go back and play Genslop together.
>>1816077>furshitsNo buy
>>1815811>Nikkes are getting Massive Ada Wong AssAlright they're winning big this time
>>1816173I hope they add a free Leon so they can finally stop pretending that they're strictly a waifu game.
>>1816176>Stop pretendingThe ironic gooners will not care. Theyve been cucked all the way since the dave diver collab and nikke could keep getting new males and theyll still call it a waifu game in the same vein as brown shart is
>>1816176>LeonBut she has the most porn with Mr.X thoughIt should be Mr.X, Regenerator and Licker!
>>1816176What's the point of saying stupid shit like this that even you know won't happen?
>>1816184i think Lady D has the porn thoughbeit, normies eat that shit up
>>1816189To be fair, majority of the shit said here are stupid shit that aren't even happening.
>>1815910Nobody wants your used goods lil' cuckie, calm your caged boyclit
>>1816211Honestly, this general should probably rebrand itself. At best there's like 1 piece of drama per month, usually a nothingburger.
>>1816213Gacha Mental Ward General
>>1816213Gacha Shitposting Fags and Incels General
>>1816213r/gachagaming General
>>1816213there is no drama so we are starting it ourselveswuwa is ML btw
is it normal to see a community so depressing to look at just asking for release date every hour?mostly AKE and ANANTA discordAP discord would be nice tho
>>1816246that what a potentially good game does to its playersno one cares enough about NTE or SP to do the same thing
>>1816246>AKE and ANANTAnot even looking forward to those games, but i can see why people want them to release, even in the MMO space it's the same for certain games. People really want something they can get lost in, and the status quo ain't cutting it.
im actually excited for ananta newsits gonna be another trailer for sureno fucking way a new developer with no experience cant do those shit in the trailer
>Mechabreak/SB devs Q&AFood for thought: Not enough spending content in the game kills players' interest
>>1816257Isn't this interview about Mechabreak? That's not gacha though.
>>1815685I'm surprised no one in western communities talks about this, but apparently it's a hot topic among CN communities now. https://bbs.nga.cn/read.php?tid=44894206 They even dug up old stuff from last year when CC/cosplayers talked about how they weren't allowed to upload Wuwa related content. I guess it's karma, since hoyodrones used to cry about how tencent suppressed hoyo, but their favorite company did the exact same thing against kuro.
>>1816257>SB devstrying to muddy the waters, they're talking about mechabreak, it's terribly monetized, has nothing to do with snowbreak or mobile gaming, so fuck off tranny
snogger is afraid lmao
>>1816257>Mechabreak/SB devsBro the two games are in the same company but they have different dev teams.
Snowbreak peaked and died at 1.2
cucked and trannycoded playerbaseholy shit is it really this bad, hoyokeks?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TE3nfOpcSQ
>>1816309we need a tl;dw
>>1816309the girls should have their own lives and boyfriends, it makes a better story okay, plus (I) get to watch
>>1816311
>>1816316>Genshin made their MC a cuck cameraman so Rover should be a cuck cameraman too.Unironically based xister.
>>1816316Did this spyro dude banished his memory of natlan's archon quest or something lmao
>>1815811Holy shit i wasn't ready for this reveal
>>1816316>The literal Main Character shouldn't be important in their story.What did these xisters learn in school that they think side characters should be the main focus.
>>1816329Some individuals just can't seem to grasp the concept of a self-insert main character
>>1816330i wonder why does hoyo pander to people like that and hire writers like that as well?is this just a kink of dawei or one of the higher-ups?
>>1816334and why should he canter to brown incels from /gdg/?
canter
xister is a saar....
>>1816316>people still playing HSR after they added a furry and a hag
>>1816334hoyo employees made their own self-insert donut, they couldn't give two shits about plebs who self-insert as traveler or any other hoyo MCs.
>>1816335calm down, trannywe are just having a discussion. it's very clear by now that hoyo is your ally so rest assured
>>1816340thank you
>>1816338>hagthat's a bad thing? wasn't kafka and himeko early hags? they are god tier.
>>1816342thank dawei insteadand you dont have to thank him with your wallet either. he's very good at making waifufags believe they are still playing a waifugame, and they will happily spend for your game. hoyo is actually based for exploiting cucks
>>1816345A hag that's a child groomer
>>1816347Genshin is bad for adding this character.
>>1816316>this is the average hoyocuck
>>1816334That's what happens when you hire your friends from college to write instead of professionals, and let them do whatever the fuck they want.Instead of doing a good story that appeals to the target audience, they write a bunch of self inserts to stroke their own ego off (remember that one guy that invented his OC self insert in the powerpuff girls).If you want to look at a good example, look up what Ishikawa has written in FFXIV and how was the reception of those stories compared to the rest of the really shitty writing team. The latest expansion crashed the game because they changed the writer and put in a shitty OC that everyone loves and is better than everyone else and its always right and whenever she is not on screen every other character must be asking where is she.There's a literal manual of what not to do on that simpsons episode, and the best part is that hoyoverse games check every mark on that, and the retards that play those games think its the best thing ever.
>[SAD NEWS]Zenless Zone Zero won Best Visual Achievement at the 2025 Mobile Game Awards.
>>1816360Should have been Enfield to be honest.
>>1816360>furry gacha
>>1816356>covid>woke epidemicthe stars aligned for all these faggotry
>>1816369No kidding. The worst part is that things weren't even that bad on the betas, the female had panties, Mona was introduced with a full on ass shot, the MC actually did things.But mihoyo was already on the decline, you just have to see what happened to HI3 at around that time. And not only chinese companies, look at what happened to cygames, the japanese are infiltrated too.The only silver lining is that they moved in for the kill too quickly and chinese bros were able to see things for what they were and raised their voiced (too little too late for some games like GFL2).Regardless, mihoyo is the gift that keeps on giving, what with them trying to appeal to different tastes changing every month, shit is hilarious. And the retards that keep falling for it too.
>>1815629The Lion BULL and his wife Mashu.
gacha character designs are truly atrociousat least something like pokemon masters ex has decent designs and clothing but that game is low quality slopi wish chinks would hire japanese to do the character designs while they handled the rest
>>1815359>HSR beating WuWa and Genshin with a DoT brick unitGenshin and WuWa are doing this bad this month huh?
>>1816330It's not even self-insert that that retard isn't understanding. Almost all media has some form of main character in some form even in the earliest known forms of writing like The Odyssey. Half the reason Mihoyo games suck is because their main characters, the ones involved with EVERYTHING that happens in their games, do nothing and amount to nothing except very rarely.These faggots would call Odysseus a self-insert.
>>1816509>new ultra shilled unit is doing better than 2 games that are only doing reruns at the momentcongrats i guess
>>1816477literally any gacha game would mog designs from shit like scarlet and violet
>>1816257whats the gray market
>>1816586The lgbtq++++ market
>>1816316>DEI in the name>It's a faggot & a mudslime*Surprised pikachu face*
>>1816611that's satire right? people aren't actually that oblivious/ignorant, right? right?
>>1816612This is what living in heavily moderated echo chambers does to you.
>>1816611>It's a faggot & a mudslimeHow can a creature like this even exist
>>1816585your brain on gachashit
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Chasing Kaleidorider has released a new trailer for the upcoming NAVI Test in Japan, set for September 12.https://youtu.be/EnM7Gz_ZTGY
>>1816706>aislop
>>1816706hot
>>1816706Surprised that this actually looks impressive.
There’s a common misconception that MHY’s repeated revenue declines are due to an industry downturn and the limited size of the anime-style game market. In reality, MHY’s decline stems from the impact of short video culture.It’s not just games like Genshin and HSR, known for their emphasis on deep content, that have been hit by this cultural shift. Platforms like Weibo, Zhihu, which focus on long-form content, have also suffered. In contrast, apps like Rednote and TikTok have risen with the tide, gradually taking over the mainstream. Nowadays, most people have been poisoned by this short video culture, becoming only able to consume fragmented content. The rise of marketing accounts has flooded the internet with content garbage, while meaningful and profound content is increasingly rejected.MHY has always excelled in depth. In the past, when people still valued depth and substance, its shortcomings in other areas were often tolerated. It could devote resources to refining its strengths. But now, few are willing to savor the carefully crafted stories and settings MHY produces. All its efforts over the years have turned to dust. What was once its strength, content depth, has ceased to be an advantage, while its weaknesses are magnified endlessly.What does this mean? I believe MHY’s decline is a reflection of the decline of human civilization. If one day people can no longer accept truly profound and meaningful content, if their brains become accustomed to being bombarded by shallow material and even enjoy it, then it won’t be long before human wisdom and character deteriorate to a level worse than animals.Honestly, I see many people slandering MHY every day. It pains me, but I’m powerless. While people cheer for MHY’s downfall, what I hear is the elegy of a dying civilization.Call me foolish or arrogant if you will, but I’ll walk with MHY for the rest of my life. Maybe it’s a sliver of wishful thinking. Even if it’s a tragedy, I want to witness its final act.
>>1816730gachagaming subreddit or genshin subreddit?
>>1816732Aren't those the same thing?
>>1816706Looks good to me.
>>1816706*sigh* >>1807050
>>1816723how, pray tell the class?
>>1816257Mecha Break is just a terrible game with devs who don't seem to understand how to balance a game but want to run a PvP game.
>>1816748mlturds spent months shitting on AP just for their beloved ml game to cuck them
>>1816748That kind of reminds me of Eversoul if you ask me, but there's one gacha game in the 2010s that had this formula I am trying to remember it at this moment...
>there are unironically "people" who play these shit games to experience romancewhy are pagjeets like this? just go out and find an actual girlfriend
>>1816784>pagGo back to you mihomo general faggot.
>>1816781Bingo. "Master of Eternity" (or "StraStella" in JP or if you played Dave the Diver) by NEXON, where there are dating episodes for every pixie but in the main story you will end up with pic related herself.
>>1816748Damn, their thread is shit
>>1816784You need to understand most people who play these games are unable find girlfriends in real life. The reason why gacha games skew towards male otaku (and female-oriented gacha tend to make less money overall) is because in real life, it's easier to date as a female than a male. Hence there are less femcels than incels, hence there's higher demand for incel games such as Snowbreak.
>>1816748We did it xisters!
>>1816784Real woman can't satisfy me
>play brown shit>get sent to jail
>>1816799>be retarded anon>fall for fake article
>>1816799kek
Kaleido gameplay is probably really shit so MLbros are trying to make excuses for incoming flop by saying its not ML enough
all single gender gachas have terrible gameplay, except AP
>>1816821both platonic rider and saar savior have worse presentation than hsr so idk why mlturdies thought it would be a good idea to shill them
>>1816827>Makes me laugh every time
>>1816827>both platonic rider and saar savior have worse presentation than hsrwhat presentation does hsr even offer besides having talking heads and blank text screens like every hoyoslop? the cutscenes in both already blows its presentation out of the water
>>1816748so it's taking gfl route? this is fucking bullshit
>>1816706Beta also announced for the United States, same date as Japan.https://x.com/KaleidoRIDER_EN/status/1958858625000382578
do not redeem the ML svvrs
So at this point ML is just the Snowbreak community huh?
>>1816785so you're implying that "mihomos" can get laid while you can't? explains the seethe
>>1816706Looks good, but why does the blue girl have skirt but shorts underneath? The other girls have proper pantsu. Also if the only pandering is the shadow of a kiss, then miss me with that shit, I might as well play blue archive if I want another cuck MC.
>>1816836*claps*
>>1816848What "cuck" even means now
>>1816850Anything that isn't porn-tier glazing
>>1816850now you know why no one takes mlturds seriously
>haremge news>instant seethenot even subtle
Sorry, xisters but Genshin was an anomaly. Homoshit will never catch on. Tits and ass are where the real money is.
>>1816864that's literally ZZZ to the point they're attempting to get the pits (eve) and feet (grace, SEED) crowd
wuwa is MLcore
Romance in a live service game fundamentally feels disgusting, i cringe when developers make the most overt for (you) shallow characters to bait you into spending money because there's nothing else to them than carrot being dangled to exploit Male Loser players.MLturdies think they are "antagonized" here by some hoyo troon army, they don't understand why they are told to go and read VN or play Eroges, it's not a "gotcha" it's an advice.
She's for (Me(straight man))???? AWOOOGA
>>1816849it’s so sad that this is game earns as much as it does
LADS just won a major award
>>1816881so what compels you to spend hundreds of dollars on a character?
>>1816901I simply don't. At most i buy skins.
>>1816902what makes it justifiable to spend money on them then if the characters are not for (You)
>>1816905If the character looks better in the skin and i like the game or developers enough to merit giving them money.
>>1816896genshit paid to be nominated btw
>>1816909so your justification for spending money on these characters is just their looks?
>>1816896AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAmale cucks lostgacha stacies won
>>1816909and those skins are 40$ at best, 200$ at worstyou're literally worse than mlfags for enabling these gacha devs to price a single fucking virtual skin more than a fucking completed game
>>1816881no need to pretend to be anything but a hoyotroon, your imbecilic kind is just so fucking obvious whenever your dilated ass is trying to pretend as a le normalfag
>>1816919>you're literally worse than mlfags for enabling these gacha devs to price a single fucking virtual skin more than a fucking completed gamenta but it's been working super well for Mica, GF2 revenue charts literally go up instead of down. So much for the "boycott", players just want to fuck virtual characters on screen even though hiring cosplaying whores would be way cheaper.
>>1816921you don't see how it's a problem? MLturds don't spend just for how a character looks but you do?
>>1816924I mean i don't like gacha skins of any kind, and not to defend MLturds but gacha games aren't for third worlders that make 200 bucks in wages a month either, it's always a frivolous spending regardless of the bottom price
MHY won't be jumping around for much longer mhy's rise was originally just an accident, taking advantage of Hypergryph's distraction, relying on plagiarism, aggressive promotion, paid traffic, and the pandemic bonus to create the hit game Genshin Impact, completely a sneak attack without integrity. Arknights was suppressed, Hypergryph released Ex Astris, a half-finished product, and we, the AK oldfags, had our legs broken. To this day, we can't lift our heads, only able to mock mhy under the guise of other games. But Endfield is different, Endfield combines cutting-edge modeling, top-tier gameplay, high-end optimization, and the longest preparation, good food is never late, coffee still tastes best when hand-ground. mhy, just you wait, Endfield is not here to end miHoYo, it is here to end the entire world As for Kuro, it's just making noise, clearly never played a good game, taking advantage of the moment to jump around for a couple of days. Once Endfield is released, you'll understand what real gameplay is, what IP value means, and what cultural export truly looks like
>>1816933Endfield just looks like a shitty Wuwa
>>1816933Counterpoint :
>>1816850When a girl tells you she wants to fuck you, goes to your room at night, undresses and asks you to fuck her. You refuse, so she goes and falls in love with another girl and fucks her instead. This has happened like 15 times in blue archive.Also in Nikke. Thus, cuck games.
>>1816895It really doesn't, you can't possibly be so retarded as to believe the meme chart.
>>1816933hypergryph games are even more of a cuck fest than mihoyo ones, it's hilarious how much the AKfags think their new game is going to succeed.
Ok what game is going to succeed then?
>>1816952TrickalTrickalGODS will be vindicated
>>1816950bro even AK still has more (you)sexual waifus than any game from Hoyo except maybe ZZZ.HI3 is a fantasy land for dykes and tranniesGI is a haven for shiptranniesHSR is a fujo infested containment zone
>>1816881>>1816902>>1816909>>1816921>>1816923>>1816925
>>1816955If I like an artist, I will pay for their art even if I can download it from the internet. If I like a singer, I will buy their digital albums even though I can torrent them.If I like a F2P game, I will spend on cosmetics to support it. I think that dropping 20 bucks on a game that I've played for 350 hours is reasonable enough, but I understand if your poor brown ass can't comprehend such a concept.
>>1816955People play these kinds of games for nuanced reasons, yes.
>>1816956hypocrite retard
>>1816957how long until these covid tourist-weebs fuck off?
>>1816957You can have both. Nikkes cinderella shits on all of them and she looks like a low class escort.
>>1816933>Ex AstrisHadn't heard this in a long ass time. Whatever happened to it? The art direction is good but the graphics from what I can see look like an Alpha build that escaped containment
>>1816974it was advertised as an episodic series (you buy new story expansions), but it was clearly abandoned as no such expansions were ever releasedin all likelihood it was just the result of endfield devs needing 3D experience so they shat out a tech demo and called it a game
>>1816957We do but elitism like this is just poor form. Don't let bitterness destroy everything for you.
>>1816968Never, unfortunately. Genshin opened the flood gates.
>>1816954and Arknights is even worse, way worse
>>1816870I thought Phrolova is not ML so why they are trying to sell merchs with her?
>>1816994How so?
>>1816957I don't get it. Nuanced with what?
Snowbreakgods mindbreaking the yuritroons and MiHoMos as usual in this thread. MLgods mogging mental midgets as usual!
>>1816995only the mentally deficient trannies actually think she's a middle finger to (You)pandering. In the game she's painted as a retarded bitter ex who threw a tantrum that rover forgot about her after that one time meeting with her, with rover putting an end to that bitch's misery by leaving her out to drown and die
>>1816994explain then you cuck faggot>inb4 muh vulpis/ines/yato
>>1817004>inb4 muh vulpis/ines/yatoWhat's that about?
>>1817009NTA but Vulpis is a married woman (mother), Ines is ""implied"" to ""like"" Hoerderer (but this is just delusion depending on who you ask), Yato and Noir Corne who is another Operator get shipped together a lot but nothing ever comes of it
>>1817009Vulpis is a married woman with a child that's playable, the father was recently revealed but isn't playable yetInes is someone whose "paired" with aplayable guy but it's never outright stated they're together. But the "pairing" goes as far as the two being teased by an old friend/sister/daughter whatever figure that they're going to be opening up a shop and setttling down togetherYato is just typical ship stuff with another character, it was most prominent in a collab they were both inThough all that to say AK isn't really a game for that. The characters that show genuine, not out of proportion romantic affection to the main character doesn't even reach 10. Most people just take absurd leaps with voicelines to say someone is into Doc when that's the only real interaction between them and the mc. In reality theres like maybe 8 girls in the game you could make a true case for it without it just being an exaggeration if you aren't looking at Priestess/Theresa. The game isn't really for that kind of thing
>>1817012>>1816978That's a whore.>>1817012>>1817013>furshits>used pussyKill hags
Even at 8 that's still more than hsr
>>1817013>The characters that show genuine, not out of proportion romantic affection to the main character doesn't even reach 10alright then name them if you're so sure the number doesn't reach double digit
>>1817013>The characters that show genuine, not out of proportion romantic affection to the main character doesn't even reach 10.so? that's stil more than any of the hoyoshit game
>>1817020He's bluffing, there aren't even that many to name
>>1817020Angelina, Platinum, Gravel, Eblana, Muelsyse, Blue Poison, Skadi, Swire, Savage, Ambriel, Theresa, PriestessThen you can probably count girls like Ho'olheyak, Exu, Reed, Virtuosa, Cantabile, La Pluma, Manticore, Whislash or Utage. Maybe Mostima too.
i think wuwa will win best community of the year award
>>1817021Nobody gives a fuck, because nothing ever comes out of it. Even in hoyo games the characters hug the MC, but thats as far as it goes, same in AK, same in BA. Thus, cuck games.
>>1817040Characters kiss (You) in AK.
>>1817040You really want to be cucked, is that your fetish?
>>1817058the argument here is that you shouldn't be playing those game because they are platonic as fuck, they don't have actual pandering. such attitude towards the player shouldn't be rewarded, when we have perfectly good games that do pandering right like snowbreak or azur lane (regardless of your attitude towards said games).and so it follows that we should avoid games with fake pandering like azur promilia or kaleidoraider or star savior.
>>1817081Define "platonic"
>>1817081>please keep playing the games I like>stop looking forward to new games that might compete with themGood look with that one kiddo.
these awards man>Shit up X Shit up nominated for best collab
>>1817081Why should I listen to you, well poisoning tranny?
>>1817033>all those>Most people just take absurd leaps with voicelines to say someone is intoNice job outing yourselves.
>>1816748>as bad as BABA is fine? What the fuck are the bugs on man. Hell the shit you said there is worse than BA.
>>1817096Bugs got mindbroken ever since the infamous collab happen despite having no other drama happening before then
>>1817087you don't, if you like platonic stuff you are welcome to keep supporting those games, and if you like getting cucked you can keep playing nikke, glf2, or brown dust 2. but if you are pro-ML, only support stuff with actual pandering, which seemingly none of the upcoming games have.
>>1817103>only support stuff with actual panderingThis is the reason why I call you well poisoning tranny. With your criteria, you won't find any new game, except DMM porn game with region locked and JP-only language.I'll play and support Star Savior because it's ML and there's nothing you can't do.
>>1817106document.cookie="ckcy_remedied_check=ec_mrnhbtk; expires=Sat, 31 May 2026 02:51:01 UTC; domain=.dmm.co.jp; path=/"Bypasses DMM geoblocking so this is irrelevant.
>>1816281>male...wish they didn’t delete the male NPCs at least. Like, I’m not that insecure to go "oh nooo, that random dude who shows up for one PowerPoint slide is gonna steal our girl, nyooo Im cuuuck"
>>1817100It took me like ten minutes to even remember what you were talking about. Jesus Christ those fuckers are off the deep end sometimes.
>>1817096Yeah Platonic Archive is fine if you like the ambiguous gender sensei, almost 0 romance and hard yuri baiting in-game and official art
>>1817118In game btw
>>1817126I say almost for a reason, because I know characters like Wakamo who literal say they love you or Karin saying she wants to become your wife, but things like Hoshino and Hina in the main story or Shigure and Nodoka yuribaiting made me uninstall the game, and yes I read the momotalks of Shigure alt and that is why I would call BA Platonic Archive, the devs could easily left sensei sleep in the same bed with shigure without showing something explicit but no lets go for the safest route!!!
>>1817133>Hoshino and Hina in the main story or Shigure and Nodoka yuribaitingI'm sorry anon but you need to scrub your mind. Yuritroons and fujos will call literally anything yuri or yaoi at the most minimal of interactions and scream like monkeys when you call them retarded for it. Hearing too much of that screaming will make you see it everywhere too. Take an actual break.>the devs could easily let sensei sleep in the same bed with shigure without showing something explicit but no lets go for the safest route!!!They just do whatever. I'm pretty sure it just depends on who they let write the momos since sensei also just straight up licks Iori's feet in canon. Plus that's kind of Shigure's whole thing in case you never read her original momos.
>>1817133Why care about that when every girl clearly likes/loves (you) anyway
>>1817126my narrative....
>>1817033You forgot Roberta. She met Doctor on a stair while avoiding a party and end up quitting her job to find him
mlfags wish they look like this
>>1817126Noooo don't destroy the MLturd's narrative!!!
i wonder how some of you play non gacha games?
>>1817163Too brown
>>1817133>the devs could easily left sensei sleep in the same bed with shigure without showing something explicitHe's not going to fuck her.>>1817149>every girl>ignoring Kaho
>>1817165Most literate ML-hater
>>1817154And what happens after the confession? A kiss? Anything? Literally platonic archive.
>>1817163ML people don't care how they look. Every doujin made by a man has them being transparent, or ugly. Its only women and fags that spend more time drawing the dude instead of the girl on porn. Think about that and what it means, fag.
>>1817182hilarious self-own ngl
>>1817185>Every doujin made by a man has them being transparent, or ugly.>Its only women and fags that spend more time drawing the dude You clearly haven't read any shipping ones or harem ones. And ugly? You have to go out of your way to make someone ugly you know, how is that not on the homo side of things?
c/u/cks masquerading as ML extremist will never not be funny
>>1817200>posts a gfl2 imagewho is masquerading here, cucklover?
>>1817094according to who? your troon ass?
who wonnedwho losted
>>1816968Never? Even if they quit playing gacha games altogether, they won't leave since they now know gacha is where the "straggot incels" gather, so they'll do what they can to ruin it. Those gachahusbando subs aren't going anywhere.
r/queersofgacha is laughing at us...
>>1816881Remember this never used to be a thing when the nips were running gacha. There was still some (You) baiting but characters also interacted with each other and relationships between characters was a selling point without people chimping out. It's only the Chinese and other third world countries who made it weird because of their gender issues.
>>1817222one of the oldest japanese gachas (Rage of Bahamut) has many superhumans, witches, gods/goddesses, angels and demons who are openly falling for protagonist-kun you retard
[VERY SAD NEWS] ZZZ bara guy is an A-rank, big tiddy nun got overhauled into HSR sloppa
>>1817203>rent freeDo you have a proof to back up your absurd claim?
>checked reddit for the continuation of the gfl2 skin gacha drama>mica still keeps the skin gacha>redditards accept it like a good cuck>any deniers will be insulted and ordered to just uninstalling the game or touch grass>mica then claims the alliance was fake and bad actors>once again the redditards gladly agree to bootlicking micaNot even trying to beat the allegation huh, i shouldn't have expected anything from Raymond's second slop community.
>>1817242What did the nun look like before?
>>1817250>announces the skin gacha>redditards accept it like a good cuck>any deniers will be insulted and ordered to just uninstalling the game or touch grassHey just like what happened to Nikke's skin gacha.
>>1817250there is no stopping consoomers, it happened in nikke, happened in brown dust 2, mica got cucked the hardest, and they guzzled mica's cum with a smile. consoomers are the most fearsome enemy to gamers
>>1817242>couldn't just censor and/or nerf the original design so they replaced it with...discount ganyuOthers will forget (or not even know in the first place) what they took from you, but I will not>>1817252See picrel
>>1817250>If you don't like it then don't participate in it.>There's other prizes too not just the skin.>You have a 1% chance to get the skin early.>Just stop being a poorfag loser.Have the GFL2 players been properly using the Nikke guide to slurping the skin gacha?
>>1817262>See picrelDamn that's a large difference.
>>1817248Do you have a proof to back up your absurd "ackshually these ops with pandering line don't give a shit about doctor hehe" implication?
>>1817264>>1817242The other girl is actual nun redesign, first one only got her name
>>1817269Pic forgotten
>>1817242creatively bankrupt.but it's a mihomo game so it'll still make bank thanks to zzzkeks
>>1817270>>1817272when will the overdesign copy-paste nightmare end?
>>1817205Why is she so racist?
>>1817276Never thankfully. Slop is a necessary evil to keep the lowest common denominator in check
>>1817272>spiciest hoyogame>their lewdest designs are either tight pants or Eula ripoffsHonestly, now I'm starting to wonder how things would've turned out had Waterkuma stuck around
>>1817282This one will be survive >>1817282
>>1817282>>1817283Damn, wrong quote>>1817262
>>1817262>>1817270>>1817272Yikes!
>Mihoyo and LaD CEOs hanging out togetherMihomobros...
>>1816645simply the truth judging by how no one gave a shit about scarlet violet characters
>>1817319C&C, i ship them
>>1817270>>1817272what happened to the modern theme? why do these designs look so generic like other gachas?
omg /vmg/ mentioned
>>1817332hoyojeets, not like this
>>1817331Waterkuma left before game even reached anni.
>>1817332saars, we beat korea, we are trve aryans
>>1817332Koreabros...
>>1817272Barely disguised fetish
>>1817272unironically looks ai generated
>>1817331hoyoslop tends to leave their theme out the door after the initial concept designs which is why consistency in vision seem all over the place for every arc
>>1817272slophoyo plans to dethrone animal crossing with these incredible designsmore on plebbithttps://www.reddit.com/r/HYGGameLeaks/comments/1egkr75/npcs/
>>1817390you're rightgenshin's initial cast was very generic adventure-fantasy but appealing, then they started overdesigning them with the same few features (parted hair, buttflaps, thousand little trinkets on each character's clothing, etc)then star rail dropped, looked promising until the chingchong planet arc where they really didn't even care about the game's space-fantasy theme and just went all in on chingchong shilling (again)and now finally in zzz, unique theme in the gacha market, great initial cast, only to shit the game up beyond saving
>>1817399>space-fantasy themeNo aliens
>>1817395yikes, pagmilia is dead after this releases
>>1817401>game set in vast expanse of fantasy space>literally every single character is humankekabsolute kek
>>1817382what fetish are you talking about, troon?
>>1817432chinks literally can't produce anything but slop for their pagjeet audience huhi wish japs were competent enough to create high quality gachas, at least their character designs are decent
>>1817427if you feel offended then there's no point in asking isn't it, tyrone?
>>1817319KJH wishes he was there
>>1816933>endfieldthis is just xenoblade with factorio mechanics.
>>1817434>muh japanese people are the greatest can you show some examples of these good japanese designs in games from the last 5 years
>>1817250snowbreak still wins
The chinese gacha market is bound to collapse in a few years, the massive cash influx into china has propped up this market and ventures from aspiring ching chongs that want a piece of the pie, but only few games and supply. Alternatively very first financial crisis that hits china in the future due to external reasons is going to puncture the gacha market and send a lot of smaller games into eos or maintenance mode.The current sentiment of oversaturation is confirmation that the overestimation of player demand is starting to stress and wear down the proverbial rubber band of the market and the interest of the players.
>>1817439even these sloppiest of pokeslop games have good character designschinks don't know how to create characters that stand out without overdesigning them with hundreds of different features
>>1817446i love how japan keeps the character designs simple, and yet, memorablecan't say the same for all the sloppy chinky character designs that arr rook da same
>>1817446>>1817449>Liking wokeslop designKYS retard weeb. This shit is just 3D model from tumblr art style.
>>1817250Meanwhile, the second manjuu introduces something the players don't like in azur lane, the devs immediately make changes.
>>1817457>wokeslopyou don't even know what woke means because your pajeet brain has an iq lower than 50 due to all the shit eatingenjoy jacking your 10.24 microdick to chinkslop character designs, it's for low iq subhumanimals like you
>>1817462ok
>>1817463
>>1817463>>1817464i never said all the characters in gen 9 pokemon are good so you're just owning yourself by showing everyone how even the wokest dei pokeslop games somehow have better character designs than chinky shit
>>1817446>>1817449>>1817463>>1817464God these designs are trash
>>1817468>manface
chinks can't create anything appealingmeanwhile some kids' franchise has better character designs than all of chinkslop combined>>1817469>poojeetcope
>>1817470open your eyes, retard
>>1817471i know it must be hard for you to see through your chinky slant eyes, but damn
Why is this faggot posting his cartoons here?
eat dirt, chink lol
too spicy for shitskins and chinks
>>1817472>>1817475>>1817477>>>/aco/
when will chinks design just one good character?>>1817480you sound butthurt, chinky
Tendysloppers are allowed to post outside of /v/ now!??
>>1817466>so you're just owning yourself by showing everyone how even the wokest dei pokeslop games somehow have better character designs than chinky shitAccording to whom? Your retarded ass? You're blind if you think DEI slop is better than any other thing.>DEI slop:<>DEI slop, Japan:o
shitskins and chinks seething itt because none of their sloppy characters are popular
>>1817461steve jobs: customers dont know what they want until you show themand he's right
>>1817242What was special about that guy anyway? He looks like what fujos think men who are into other men would be into when nothing about him clicks.
Complete Nikke Goddess Victory
>>1817493>EN voice actingnobody cares
>>1817488>Popular=goodSo true, pokeyman bros.
>Black Beacon devs Mingzhou Network Technology's building is empty, possibly joining Guilongchao in the final shutdown phase.Guilongchao issued a relocation notice before. That move has lasted nearly two months, during which no new content was added aside from rerun eventsBlack Beacon has also gone silent with no announcements. Some netizen visited the office and noticed this
>>1817486my cock will puncture your tasteless corpse
>platonic archive >having the most works at C106>ML's last hope snowbreak>0 workwhat went wrong?
>>1816896delicious cope from mxz
>>1817501So why'd Black Beacon flop? I just checked out the character designs and they honestly look similar or even better than wuwa's since it's the same devs.Maybe the characters just arent appealing enough? also interesting though that the top character is a male.
>>1817513>mixed toiletdo you even need to ask?
>>1817513it brings nothing new to the market
>>1817498yes, that's how it workskekyou are so mad that your chinky slop characters are completely irrelevant in the realm of entertainmentmaybe you should tell your chinky slant eyed artists to add a gorrillion more accessories and trinkets to the clothing designs of chinkslop characters
>yes, that's how it worksGenshinGODS wonnered
>>1817514Of course, there's no other mixed toilet game alive right now. How could I forget
>>1817498but chink gacha slurpers always bring up popularity being important whenever they're talking about hoyo revenues, but now it's actually le bad?
>>1817513>another arena button masher, more boring than competitors>no pc client>mixed toilet>censored>no full JP dub (while EN is in)Devs are just retarded.
>>1817539mixed toilet sisters...
Gacha streamers have been botting. The popularity of gacha games online is artificial.
>>1817468playing this game for over 5 years was not worth it as it slowly became whale bait slop around the 3rd anniversarycan only imagine how the game is now after quitting in november last year
>>1817406No aliens. It's goyslop.
>>1817468>censored version Kill yourself
>>1817513>3 black charactersGet woke, go broke
>>1817513Bad launch Bad first 2 months Nothing new to the table Some gachas can survive the bad 2 months period if they hook enough players but of the playerbase keeps bleeding out then there's nothing they can do to save it
>>1817505So true sis, my favourite work was the +200 bestiality anthology
Snowmelt
>>1817562>what is dislyte
what game do you think will kill wuwa?
>>1817619whichever one launches first
>SNOWSLOP>SNOWBUCK >SNOWBUNNY>SNOWFALLnever go full ML, otherwise you decline in revenue
>>1817572Has the novelty of being a fetish game despite being another autobattler
>>1817623That game was already a flop even before they turned the pandering to eleven.
>>1817623>>SNOWBUNNYOh you're one of those pajeets with cuck fetish. I'm glad your visa was denied.
>muh MLjust play VNs you retards
>>1817669not even just VNs, theres multiple 3d gacha eroges out there where you can "build up" your girls or whatever other excuse MLturds come up with for not playing games that are actually made for them
>>1817623>decline in revenueSo just like genkek and all the other mixed toilets? 1+1+1 < 1 or something.
>>1817669>muh mixed toiletjust play jrpg you retards
>>1817268Oh, I do have a lot of proof, but you first so I can btfo your shitty ass attempt at gaslighting. I asked first anyway.
>>1817501...
>>1817434They had Tribe Nine and it flopped
>>1817513well at least they flopped with dignity
he will mog your bumasses
ZZZ will finally die now with the random asset recycle girls as 5 stars instead of the anticipated male Monato
>>1817730people that like rolling for men are playing hsr, not zzz. the ones playing zzz are the ones that like yuri and shipping, hsr is for the fags.
>>1817745It's no wonder that ZZZ is dying.
>>1817653>ignoring furries
>>1817707Tribe Nine sisters...
>P*k*m*n defenders Stay contained.>>>/vp/
>>1817242>>1817262>>1817272Mihoyo is just awful. I have zero idea of why people play censored garbage from them. Especially HSR.
>>1817446I like upper left. She is good looking.
>>1817671Fucking name them then. I bet the character designs are ugly and the characters have the personality of wet blanket because it has no story
>>1817803its 2025 on an anonymouse chinese gossip bbs you can just tell the class you're gay instead of pretending you have any say as a straight man with any kind of tastebecause you're not and you dont
>>1817805For someone that talks a lot about being gay you sure are not beating the allegations.
>>1817802because they provide better games than anyone else
>>1817707>unironically liked the XB modeShame it had to die this way. Could probably list at least 50 things that went wrong with the game.
>>1817802Furries
GOOD NEWSKuro games trying to patent seamless map technologyhttps://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1RFeBziEe9
DNA will have a live stream on 26th
>>1817882DNA? more like DoA lol!
>"Father of Genshin Impact" Cai Haoyu's first AI game was cold: the price was 27 yuan, and the number of people online in a single day dropped to 139; The value of the business shrank by 18.5 billion yuan in one year https://www.sohu.com/a/926707788_115565
>shittoyo is the best of chinahow embarrassing
>>1817730they have another urban themed game in developmentalmost as if they already had little faith in this one lol
>>1817513>bad as fuck launch>no pc client (cant emulate too so if you want to play it on pc you need to use official google play emulator)>shill keep saying "EX-PGR DEV" giving them quite the highbar in term of combat>just another button smasher instead>people make a joke that by "ex-pgr dev" mean the greedy one that kicked by the solon (prolly schizo theory)>shill by 1 female pgr cc>after the disaster (pick one, from the buggy launch or the different treatment from CN to global regarding rewards) said cc never bother to shill it again (continue to grift to wuwa space)then it slowly turn into irrelevancy, i play the game around like 2 months, while i enjoy for what it was, i dont see myself playing this when i already balls deep on PGR (same reason i drop ZZZ)
>>1817859Youre thinking of zzz. Having extremely minimal animal traits like ears, tails or god forbid wings does not make a furry, especially when almost every gachashit with anime girls have them.
>>1817949They're furries. Best to skip all Mihoyo games and Blue Archive.
>kemonomimi>kemonolearn the difference
Higan Eruthyll Remake: Tits & Asses Editionhttps://youtube.com/watch?v=55-NwIthRzE
>>1817969What's this? Censorship showcase?
>>1817513Too many male characters. You have to keep the ratio to 7:1, you know?
>>1817969Male status?Pandering status?
>>1817969>one bare foot one sockYou got to commit to one or the other.
>>1817841>ImplyingSnowbreak is the best game for straight adult men in history, and is 100% original unlike genshit that stole everything from Nintendo.
>>1817242>>1817262>>1817270>>1817272>turn a perfectly unique game in the gachashit market into slop to pander their low iq brown pagjeet audiencei had a lot of hopes from this game before release honestly
what do we think about god saving gacha gaming
>>1817983cultural phenomenon saar
>>1817982>pagjeet?
>>1817983>>1817987which god of india would wuwa be, shiva vishnu or brahma
>>1817242It's hilarious actually, the zzz community is losing its mind with the fanbase split and fighting each other because the new character is A rank instead of S. Is this gacha game the king of drama?>pre-launch crash out over nerfed Nicole>TV mode>No TV mode>The camera bug preventing gooning>Fading out characters that are close to the camera, also preventing gooning>Caesar's arm>Caesar's MV (arguably) shipping her with Wise>Anomaly Zone Zero>Miyabi powercreep>Harumasa being free and weaker than Miyabi/Yanagi>Astra's MV shipping her with Wise (basically every time external media includes Wise there's a contingent of Belle fans that flips out about them making Belle "non-canon")>SAnby's design and kit>Yixuan's design>Seed Jr.>voice actor-related dramas (Yuzuha)>X arguments about the younger-looking characters>Manato being A-rankThe game is being review bombed.
>>1818004>panda avatarcan already tell they're not only a homo but a fat barafag too, shame whoever did the screenshot colored over the name
>>1817965Both are furbaits
>>1817993
>>1818004ZZZ is a goldmine for drama because despite being a Mihoyo game the devs are grossly incompetent. It's a level of professionalism you'd expect from some small chinese company not Mihoyo.
KURO is deleting males
>>1818012If having son is the most important thing in life for Chinese men, how did Red Uncle managed to record over 1000 Chinese men having sex with his tranny ass?
>>1818012>random twitter userStalker
>>1818012thanks for this goldmine of an account
The future of Chinese gachas
>>1818029Thats even worse than the western miss universe, holy pozzed batman
>24 videos in one week
>>1818035insane how 3/4ths are usually about mihoyo games too unless wuwa finally stops having dead patches for him to milk the actual game he should cover
>>1818035>>1818041nothing wrong with shitting on mihomo saar
>>1818004Makes sense since most of the people working on that game are supposedly new recruits. Doesnt help that being a nu-Mihoyo game means having one of the worst gacha communities in general (which Mihoyo themselves created btw).
>>1818071So true lah, eat da pagpag and sell da sister to the anglo boomer
>>1818035He probably earns more than me with those so kudos to him
>>1817969Animations look good at least
>>1818004>>The camera bug preventing gooning>>bugThat was intentional>>Caesar's MV (arguably) shipping her with WiseThat was some of the most blatant for (You) attempts ZZZ had at the start and it wasn't nearly enough to help them because the company has successfully chased off that audience, explaining it's current struggle to survive. I saw news articles saying she was the first "confirmed straight" of the game they were so upset.>>Caesar's armExplain that one.
>>1818120The absolute state of Mihoyo """design""""
>>1818120creatively bankrupt
>>1818012This woman lives in an alternate reality where MLbros love yuri
This looks like funWhy can't snowshart do the same?
>>1818194>caring about plastic whores with ten cms of makeup.ok
>>1818194wish we had trannies too brownbro
>>1817969this is hilarious, i actually enjoyed the original a bit. Safe-horny wasn't really the game's problem, but it looks good now at least.
>>1818120This is the most risque design that they can produce, so it's par for the course that they'll only create shit like this for coomer player.
>>1818197It's how your dad got it with your mother though
>>1818206Meanwhile any Korean game that isn't Limbus can outcoom these designs on a tuesday. Including Nikke, despite acting more and more like a hoyogame as of late.
>>1817969These new designs actually look pretty good. Better than most gachaslop these days. Shame that the gameplay looks so, well... bad.
>>1818207Weak.
>>1818120remember when people praised this game for having somewhat unique designs
>>1818029>best body award>pig with small boobschinks are blind I see
>>1818242the only legacy they left in gacha scene is their character screen
>>1818194That's a man
>>1818029Damn didn't know the CCP was lowering the standards on women to promote birth rate.
>>1818029As expected from the country that will Architect the whole world.
>snowkek upped the skin game>new update intentionally broke every model swap mods without any workaroundWhy the fuck the shitter here keep bringing made up or old drama of snowkek but never the newest one? Bonus:>mecha break flopped so hard they cut season 0 early from the planned 3 months
>>1818029These events always choose someone ugly
>>1818306Because maybe the mods broke multiple times in the past and they were always fixed after some time by the ones who made them? I don't think that's really too drama worthy.
>>1818120Right is not correct. One of the stocking needs to be longer than the other.
>>1818120KEK
>>1818306>Why the fuck the shitter here keep bringing made up or old drama of snowkek but never the newest one?Is there even drama for this game? Most people stopped caring about it.
>>1818120how is this getting on people's nerves when hsr designs is just as annoying
>>1818346I've been one of those who actively try to look for actual drama and to be honest, the only real drama they've had for more than half a year are about their discord being attacked by angry global "day one players" who got banned.
>>1818314Only broke once in the past and at the time even the dev confirmed it then updated the game again so it's easier to "fix" the broken mod (just need to rename shit). Now they are completely silent about the whole thing.
>>1818351hsr designs were never good.
>>1818306I hope mecha break flops even more to the point of bringing snowbreak down with it.
>>1818373Nah I want it alive so it can remain as everyone's general punching bag.
>>1818346https://youtube.com/shorts/-y_FiMZtxjE?si=qNSxtv3eFSLlQhPdNot even horse pussy could stop forced diversity.
>>1818120safe horny design
>>1818351That's the thing. People were expecting better from ZZZ since the character designs were the only good part of the game. Now it's falling into Honkai slop territory of just copy/pasting every new character that comes out.
What kind of group is the "Spicy Immortal" aka ML players?First of all, they won’t spend a single penny to support male-oriented games, because in their eyes, every male-oriented game has some kind of problem. They can always reach the conclusion that a game is “not loyal enough” from an absurd angle, and decisively label the game as “femcel-friendly” to justify not spending money to support it, with no exceptions.Secondly, they pose no threat to female-oriented games, because you won’t see a trace of them in any community where female-oriented games are discussed. To female-oriented games, this group simply doesn’t exist.Finally, what they excel at is attacking or ceding male-oriented games. For example, a certain harem martial arts game had an easter egg NPC (zero plot, originating from a small event held before the game’s official release), and the private political remarks of the person behind the character were exposed by an ex-boyfriend. This group immediately labeled the game as “femcel-friendly” and launched wanton attacks. Or a certain male-oriented galgame had a femcel who made political remarks in the official account’s following list (followed first, then made remarks). Even though the official account unfollowed immediately after learning of it, it didn’t help. The game was still labeled “femcel-friendly” and subjected to frenzied insults.Femcels fought for ten years, but they ceded more ground in a single day than femcels ever did.Even if there were a game that, by their standards, was flawless and perfectly executed, they would still say, “Not bad, I’ll wait and see. If your stance doesn’t waver in six months, I’ll support you.” That’s right, six months later, when I saw that line again, I nearly laughed myself breathless.
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Damn the drama here is cheap and recycled. At least be an actual drama thread losers.
Bad news everyone, looks like gooks are up to no good.
>>1818452>people gonna download shit like this
>he thinks hoyo games don't have any malware
[SAD NEWS] ZZZ's newest S rank girls looks so bad it became a hot topic on Tieba
>>1818492I have to agree with the guy saying that the game's urban designs have essentially been disbanded and now it's just more fantasy slop.The fucking summoner elf girl has more of a fantasy feel to her than anything Genshin -- the actual MHY fantasy game -- has had in years, lol.
>>1818496All I know is that this phenomenon where they try to stuff a bunch of clashing themes into one game is not unique to Mihoyo.Arknights is super guilty of this. In fact, Endfield's latest character teased looks like fantasy-themed despite the game's heavy sci-fi pandering.Reverse:1999 also does it. 1st anniversary character was a sexy robot woman, 2nd anniversary is a fantasy monster girl.
>>1818492ZZZ designs have seen significant downgrade it's not even funny.Releasing two new waifus every patch clearly took a toll on their artists.Nowadays they simply copy HSR/Genshin designs and slap animations with flashy particles on them to make even cheap-looking characters look luxurious.The game itself is already dogshit, so if they release dogpiss design on top of it ZZZ is pretty much done for.
>>1818517its gonna be funny when they both sell more than wuwa girls
>>1818519They will sell more than Wuwa girls, but since when does sales reflect quality? I thought we're over this argument.
>>1818520it means the player base is happy with the game's directionwhy should zzz devs care if non players complain about the design and cater to them instead
>>1818521The entire point of >>1818492 is that not even ZZZ players are happy with the game's direction of putting out sloppy designs one after another. Nowadays they only play ZZZ for older designs.
>>1818523back then there were a lot of complaints about castorice in hsr yet she still ended up making more than anything elsedont let the vocal minorities give you the wrong idea
>>1818527For an anniversary gigashilled banner she was rather mid, and nowadays she's already forgotten.
>>1818492waterkuma must've read tons of churled eula djs
>>1818539blacked bacon xisters...
>>1818539The tribe nine of chinese gacha
>>1818346Snowbreak stopped having drama once they stopped hiring feminists.
>>1818012huh, i might actually play WUWA then
does snowbreak's story even get good? https://youtu.be/uqxJlVtrOIA?si=0SZ_hH7X1XVgh91Bi'm a sucker for high scifi and i think only arknights does it well, if kalsit isn't yapping you to death
>>1818590No according to day one players who are the real lore masters it gets worse from the first 10 chapters. Don't play it.
>>1818492i think the npc designs in zzz are betterisolde MOGS the fantasy sloppa ripoffs from genshin and star rail
>>1818517they're also developing an open world urban-themed game, so zzz is definitely going to diversify even further until people drop it eventually and it becomes irrelevant slop similar to hi3
>>1818590No.
>>1818591>>1818600sad to hear. Again arknights is only one doing high scfi and every gacha just goes to fantasy
>>1818590The main conflict takes a backseat to the whole romance stuff.
>>1818551>what is guilongchao
>>1818517Octopus girl easily could be an 1.0 character thought
>>1818647t. story skipper
Man, the horizon walker steam release is truly something to behold.>stealth drop the game on steam>tell everyone it's going to be up after a 3 hour maintenance>maintenance got extended twice>people who download it complain that the .exe file gets flagged as malware by windows defender>delay the release indefinitely until you can fix your malware problem
>>1818672where is will anderson? how about the adventist? coyotes? You can be as nonlinear and verbose as arkngihts where it took them 3 YEARS IN THE SAME STORY SETTING, LONDINUM, but at least they were coherentsnowbreak goes all over the place and just forgets certain faction and groups exist. The writers just remembered that Edda and rozan as antagonists exist LMAO
>>1818590>>1818695I couldn't take it seriously since they removed all the male NPCs from everything.>will Anderson and that cool military guynah, they think npcs are fucking to their girls.
i think joseph gets mentioned later but Ye, just vanishes from the story and again, other vilians just got forgotten like Cherno's father Kegaard?Snowbreak is what a happens when you have CN bikinischizos do a hostile takeover, enabled by the devs btw, and shoot your down any form of integrity
>>1818709Well bikinischizos only took over because the initial game was a flop until devs decided to start pandering. So all this crying about plot no one gave a shit about in the first place is just some crocodile tears.
>Snowbreak drama free for a while now >Proceed to recycle ad infinitum day one players complaints Why is it this game in particular that lives rent free in the heads of peoples who don't even play it ?
>>1818709Tell me, friend, how is tribe nine going, should be doing good since it maintained its integrity right? This isnt high art, retard, its gacha. They live and die by giving the customer what they want, not the artistic vision of the devs. Which in this case was to cuck the players, before they regained their senses and changed shit around (which GFL2 was never able to do, you still have to brainwash the dolls into liking you, and basic interactions in the dorm are locked behind 200 buck skins)
>>1818647>>1818695>>1818709Yeah this is always the problem with ML games.Because they want to sell the romance stuff, the main story has to be sacrified and at that point it's basically a glorified eroge.But then if they focus on the main story, the result tend to be cringe because female characters inherently cannot drive main plot by themselves. So it's no different than Netflix strong independent women fantasy. In the end only male characters can make a story worth reading.
>>1818723>Tell me, friend, how is tribe nine going, should be doing good since it maintained its integrity right?Not that anon but I'm not sure if you know but Tribe Nine is unironically getting revived / backed up by Kohacka himself so shitposting about it doesn't apply anymore.
why waste manpower writing and drawing literally-who homo npcs when you can do (you)pandering instead?
[SAD NEWS] Recent Genshin survey didn't include Wuwa as an option for "What did you play during the time you dropped Genshin" question
>>1818741when wuwa released i played it for hoursunlimited stamina when running, grapling hook, double jump, backflips, wall runningwhen i logged in for my genshin dailies i felt like a cripple
>>1818741But they managed to find space for Snowbreak. Wow.
>>1818728Jusk make ML gacha about cute girls (male). This way we can have (You) romance while also maintaining strong male-driven story.
>>1818763Ew.
>>1818728They just need to make a game where it's inherently known in the lore that it's a harem and just progress the story as it is.
>does nothing >winhow does lowlight do it. Its just a simple tower defense game he just keeps winning
>>1818773This. There is no need to do backward flips like type-moon stuff does with "every incarnation of me will always love you because my love is engraved on the throne of heroes" and shit, which they end up breaking anyways whenever the plot demands it.Do it like OG tsukihime with the Touno-gland stuff. Like, in wuwa every girl falls in love with the MC after one sniff, no need to waste time justifying stuff. The MC is HIM, the first resonator, the founder of every nation and religion on the world, the creator of every deity, the one that has saved the world countless times in the last 10000 years. Its that simple.
>>1818773unironically, if they did this and made the harem secondary, we would have god tier writing there for mejust give us new blood into the battle-harem, ecchi genre
>>1818779>win>least culturally impactful gacha game>despite being one of the first big ones>revenue on a freefall for years now>less fanart than even small, no name games>first sequel tanked so bad it was memory holed and cancelled>second sequel doesn't know what it wants to be>on every beta they change every system around but every single fan is still unhappy>cuck MC on every ganeI don't know what your definition of winning is, but if it makes you happy, sure, pretend that you won.
>>1818784>first sequalex astris is something different tourist>second sequel doesn't know what it wants to beits just arknights: xenoblades + factorio if you actual looked at the gameplay instead of memes anon. Its a refershing take compared to openworld mihoyo slop>cuck MC on every ganelearn to spell ESLpagNiggerlowlight manages to just win by doing the bare minimum for a tower defense visual novel. THE BARE MINIMUM for storytelling and gameplay
>>1818773You still need male NPCs to push the story forward, which is a no-go for ML. A female antagonist would have to fall for MC (which means she can't be taken seriously as she'll fall for MC's dick anyway). A male antagonist that is too strong would attract NTR. A male antagonist that is weak... you might as well turn him into a female. In the end ML (with every male NPC erased from the game) is incompatible with good storytelling.
>>1818784You badly fucked up your credibility by calling Ex Astris the "first sequel". Once again, this general knows so little about Arknights that people can't even argue against it properly.
>>1818784>least culturally impactful gacha gameIn China it's literally the third biggest gacha after genshin and hsr
>>1818795Why have antagonist be male or female? Why not make it a robot, an alien, some incomprehensible entity or even a force of nature?
>>1818805again, how does he keep getting away with it. Micateam will never let this down
>>1818784>cuck MC on every ganeAKs mc isn't a cuck because he has a canon romance. They just don't pander to pags and let characters outside of the main ones have their own relationships
>>1818779>great gameplay>great visual design>interesting lore for those who cares>almost no drama>powerful marketingThat's it
>>1818818>don't pander to pags and let characters outside of the main ones have their own relationshipsits strange cause canonically, Doctor has a harem, but there is more nuance and more importantly, authenticity to the characters. Some of the girls flirt here and there. most are friendly having nuance and authenticity makes the writing better in my eyes, which was what ecchi, battle-harem did in the 00s and early 10s it wasn't shameless pandering like highschool dxd compared highschool of the dead
>>1818818>they just pander to shippersuh... cool...
>>1818823Hows that work? Do you get like one on one scenes with the ones in Implied Romance? I see the based on audio, but is there no like, I don't know hangouts or something? Never played this game so not sure if you just mean a list of voicelines like hoyo or voiced cutscenes
>>1818827>a list of voicelines like hoyo or voiced cutscenesThe former, every character has lines like every gacha and you can interpret it from that, Doctor doesn't reply to any of it though rarely theres the usual implied reply to somethingDoc is mainly in the main story and some rare events so you aren't going to see him interact with them outside of that if that's what you're hoping for. He's rarely present, the characters are more fleshed out due to this
>you need male characters because... you just do okay?Hmm nyo.
>>1818823Damn, your list is ancient
>>1818834By the way, the character in the "hates you" section is the creator's pet character. She's basically a crazy dyke who hates the player, and she was the 1st anniversary AND 5th anniversary limited character. Merely mentioning her in /akg/ sends the thread into a seething rage.
>>1818834Damn, even more cuckery and shipping than FGO. At least in that game you get to fuck some of the characters on the valentine scenes, like Kiara or anne and mary, even if they don't fall for the MC.So people willingly spend money to get females that are "nuanced" huh. That's a sad thing to hear, I now get why stuff like genshin is popular, turns out being a cuck is more of an accepted and popular thing that I had though.
>>1818837Why are you projecting your cuck fetish
>>1818834Oh, and this one is inaccurate too but I can't find an updated version
>>1818835>creator's edgy self-insert oc donutsteal that hates protagonist
>>1818834>furry gachaFuck off
>>1818795>still need male NPCs to push the story forwardWrong, faggot.
>>1818845There's like 5 furries out of 300 characters, are you retarded?
>>1818818>let characters outside of the main ones have their own relationshipsI don't get that, why play a gacha game then? People roll the character they like, be it their "waifu" or "husbando" (for game with male character), I don't really give a shit either about male if they are npc in the story, I'm more an al,kc, gf person. But why do you have the need to know that the character have 'relationship' outside the player character? They can of course, but do you think that make them more believable? I even wonder if people like you even play Arknight, and if you aren't just some freak that spend it'z days shipping fictional character with each other for god know what purpose
>>1818875>do you think that make them more believable?NTA but yes, more info about the character makes them more "alive" and believable.But almost every AK character is a born philosopher so they're probably the least "alive" out of the all gachas I play
>>1818695>71k words>69k words>58k wordsAre gachaniggers just illiterate? That amount is nothing.
>>1818779Internationally it's got a lot less staying power than many other gachas. Supposedly the chinks like it for whatever reason though. I guess they just accepted their place and didn't try to grow onto the international level and let the others do it instead.
>>1818834>>1818835Does she actually hate (You)? I always saw fanart and shit that seemed to imply it was a weird kind of love/hate thing. Kind of funny if she just actually hates you though.
>>1818905She 200% hates past (you), so by extension somewhat hates amnesiac (you) too, but not to the point of leaving you to die/not helping or something like that
>>1818905A lot of players deluded themselves into thinking she was just tsundere, and that she would eventually melt and develop feelings to the player. When she got a new version for the 5th anniversary, those delusions came crashing down hard. She has even more spiteful voicelines and in the story she only tolerates the player's existence for the greater good.This is just the tip of the iceberg too. The fact that she's now gamebreakingly meta and is prime yurifag bait are a whole other can of worms.
>>1818905Hates past (You), she just kinda is ok with new (You) but not exactly like or love
everyone ready for best game?
>>1818926Grim
>>1818926That the one that's practically a 1:1 Warframe ripoff? If so nah.
>>1818926>100 who streamer x 10 viewers on averageNot bad, I guess?
>>1818926>literal who e-celebsdoa and eos in 2 weeks
>>1818780Nice sniffa
>>1818729Do you think people would be excited about Concord if it got revived? Retard.
>>1818926>KektoneGame is doomed.
>>1818926>50% male units>zero pandering>censored as fuck before release>3D models look nothing like the illustrationsI don't understand, why make a story with an MC if there isn't fanservice or pandering. Neither warframe nor first descendant have an MC for point of view, you just play as the characters, and the story only involves them.And its not like the game is going to get carried by its gameplay either. That game is made for no one.
>>1819000I don't know if they changed it in the second beta story, but in the first one they killed a (probably) first limited character. They want to be serious and deep.
>>1818719They use it as a useful punching bag to keep drama from their own games from sticking. You have actual drama in your game? Just say something old about snowbreak and this thread eats that up instead and forgets about your own drama. Kek.
>>1819000Warframe DOES have an MC, though nice trips btw
>>1818926We didn't gatekeep hard enough.
>>1818695>3 YEARS IN THE SAME STORY SETTING, LONDINUM>Word length is more than the Harry Potter books or LoTRVictoria arc is sill more worse than Amphoreus
>>1819000>why make a story with an MC if there isn't fanservice or panderingHypothetically actual writing can overtake this if you make the story interesting enough, not that they ever fucking hire someone who can do that. They usually just mix a bit of fanservice or pandering in there as well, not go ham on it.
https://www.bilibili.com/opus/1104890653434708041?spm_id_from=333.1365.0.0>corporate speech patternthe absolute state of manjuuverse
>>1819099>spm_id_from=333.1365.0.0Why do you need to post links with that part?
>>1818835W is Sexo and she's not a Dyke. She's Yangiri.
>>1818926>dogshit character designsskip
>>1818890I can read all that easily and it goes by fast but only if it's interesting. Problem with Arknights is it's boring as fucking shit.
>>1818807You can't run because robosex, aliensex, and naturesex exist
>>1819014I bet my ass Warframe is still gonna have more fanservice and more for (you) pandering than duet night abyss t.+800 hours in-game and Mesa main
>>1817501This sounds like a good plan to me
>>1819000>>3D models look nothing like the illustrationsThis is what bothers me more about the gameSome models look alright, like Berenica, Truffles (Phoebe), Rhythm (my fav model so far, I think she looks the best)But god, Tabitha and Rebecca for example look fucking awful compared to the art
>>1819159I just checked and damn the 3d models really don't do justice for some of the character art.
>>1819000It got censored? Is there any place where I can see the censorship comparison?
>>1819152They will lean into fanservice and pandering if the game flops(it most likely will)
>>1819110Unless it didn't hook me up or is my favorite genre, going through>It gets good later bro!Then it's not worth reading nor playing. I think a good example is Nikke, the story is simple, it isn't very verbose, but it has nice twist and good pacing. I didn't play it after first Christmas event though, just in case someone called me a fanboy or something.
>>1819188>Try to befriend Levi>Sudden misunderstanding>You betrayed me let's fight>Back to trying to befriend LeviBro the recent main story for Nikke has been a recycling of the same events over and over again for multiple chapters now.
>>1817676>n-no you first!so you don't have any actual proof then
>>1818834which category is banana gonna be?
>>1819202>still no proofYawn. Maybe don't pick a fight you can't win? I asked first so I won't engage further unless you provide some proof first to show you're posting in good faith and not just some shitposting.
>>1819207>still no proofYawn. Maybe try to show your so-called "proofs" first after gloating about it in the first place? clearly I'm not the one shitposting here cucktard
>>1818779It's unequivocally the only gacha game that offers good gameplay.
oh shit AP the pvpless game have competition now
>>1819236>mihomoEw.
>>1819236What if it releases earlier than AP though? kek
>Duet night abyss removing gachai guess its over
DNA won bigly
>>1819259Source?
>>1819269the livestream happening right now
>>1819271Got any link?
tldr all characters are free and farmable for a limited timetheir main source of income will be outfits, weapon skins, cosmetics
>>1819273https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ice4zfPZvPk
>>1819277Thanks.
>>1819259>>1819274Based, total gacha death.
>>1819274I'm not opposed to this but not sure if it will be able to sustain a new IP by itself
I would support it out of principle but sadly they have male characters
launches on Oct 28th
I never buy skins and cosmetics in videogames
>>1819266>>1819285>>1819292>/vmg/ brownoids hate gacha because they never played a real freemium gamethis shit will be 10 times worse, prepare your anus, you're about to find out why gacha became a thing in the first place
>>1819274>for a limited timeNo, they are freely farmable forever. Gacha and stamina are both completely removed. You can pay2skip and buy the farmable character/weapon shards from the shop.
>>1819274actually basedi think anata's closed test also confirmed there won't be any gachait's becoming common among new releases to not paywall gameplay and instead monetize cosmeticsroco kingdom is already confirmed to be completely f2p with only cosmetic monetization, you can catch all the mons in the wild
>>1819236the designs look surprisingly decent
>>1819312Depends on how grindy the game ends up being.
>>1818666Hers is a poor design done well. The animations ought not be so attributed to her compared to the nun as the anims have been done for ages and always looked great. Hoyo are professionals but their best work is when they contract storied illustrators to make their roster. Otherwise, as is the usual chinese trapping, she is a bit overdesigned. In other chinese media you'll also often see cool/good ideas thrown together without too much thought for cohesion. If all you care about is abundance and individual cool details then all is well. With greater character design history and teachings in mind, she's not as good as the highs we've seen and potential a company that can afford a nuclear reactor should be hitting lolI gave up. Hoyo and most CN game devs just won't push the line. They'd fucking execute japan were they to abandon the pressures that lead to design toning down. I've decided to just download the nun, study her model, and continue towards making my own sexy fighter bitches
nuns are a symbol of purity and that would be appealing to chinese straight men too muchwomen over there despise how much their men hold purity to such a high regard so the nun had to be changedthink about it, who else would complain about that design? just my schizo theory
>>1819313ananta is different you retard, they're still in a fucking alpha test and most gacha alpha tests didn't include their gacha system
>>1819329is this just gacha tft
DUET NIGHT ABYSS IS NO LONGER A GACHATOTAL GACHA DEATH
you know they are just gonna have gacha outfits
>>1819329>Honkai Impact-tier modelsLol
>>1819336yeah it seems like a rushed effort just to get their foot in the door of the pal collector genrethose 2 male characters are just copies of hsr too
>>1819329so this seems like a gacha where you collect both characters and monstersthe trainers are shown with different monsters, so it's like mix-and-matchweird concept, but i'll give it a try
>>1819339Only Blade is from HSR, there is also Kiana but she has a new designThe blode boy is an original character
>>1819344it's just Yanqing with some slight touches
>>1819344he's Aventurine expy
>>1819347He looks more like Aether Still, he is an original character and they showed him on the very first art for the game already.
GACHAISSAVED
>>1818834Huh, Arknights truly did ruin gacha genre. How should we deal with them?
>>1819352So basically anime Warframe?
>>1819236That's low effort p2w autobattler crap for homos though. You should compare it to slop like epic7 or afk arena.
>>1819352Umm...based?
>>1819352There was a small game called Chasers that released not long ago and did the same thing. It didn't work very well for them so I'm curious how this will play out.
>>1819352So it'a like Snowbreak but with more grindingI hope they go all the way and remove all dailies as well
>>1819377No because SB has gachashit but no males. So where does the comparison comes from...DNA will probably have crazy grinding though.
>>1819377you can just buy characters instead of grinding like LoL
>>1819329Wait it's actually a TFT clone? Fucking finally.
>>1819329This looks retarded
>>1819372They will probably let you buy characters and weapons directly with money and add cosmetics on top of that just like warframe.
>>1819329gameplay's leak
>>1819406
>>1819408so it will still have the same snoozefest progression system that post genshin hoyo games have
I will play both. I love mixed toilet.
[GOOD NEWS] Wuwa will pay money to artists for making doujin at C107
>>1819417BasedI hope all mixed toilets add hot muscular tall bara characters like ZZZ
>>1819422Can they pay me to make an NTR doujin? I can even reduce my usual fee by half just for that.
Will DNA have a Steam vrrsion though? Or at least its own PC launcher? Because it only lists EGS.
>>1819433*version
>>1819352>we are removing gacha>gacha is savedthen its not gacha
>>1819313>roco kingdomstfu shill
>>1819453Gacha is only saved by killing gacha
>>1819453It saved itself from this thread at least. kek
Looks like MiHoYo is heading toward the IP mini-game routeHonestly, this new Honkai game has a lot of potential because it solves a problem that Wuwa, AP and others haven’t: what to do after raising "Pokémon".Auto chess is a genre with strong staying power. I don’t doubt the potential commercial success, as the open-world gacha market is visibly oversaturated. Gacha companies will likely end up competing in the low cost market.However, since the game’s endgame focuses on "Pokémon" raising/collection and auto chess, don’t expect much investment in other areas. This somewhat conflicts with MiHoYo’s previous tech-enthusiast marketing, so that approach can’t be used anymore. They can switch to gameplay-focused marketing instead.MiHoYo’s audience eats this up, mostly casual players who only play MiHoYo games and nothing else.The only issue is facing Tencent head-on. Tencent won’t let new Honkai game threaten Teamfight Tactics. But this game isn’t entirely at a disadvantage, as it’s built on a large sandbox and sells stats. While Teamfight Tactics is a pure chess game, with monetization limited to non-stat skins and pets.Bold prediction: MiHoYo’s next target is the secondary FPS market. The FPS market is bound to bite.As for Genshin Impact, I think MiHoYo will abandon the open-world market, leaving it to other companies to fight over, while seizing the low cost market in the chaos. Genshin’s open-world production model clashes with MiHoYo’s current business model. Genshin requires heavy investment to compete with latecomers, while low cost style game needs low investment for high returns.Genshin’s mission is complete, not for the game itself but for converting its IP value into MiHoYo’s corporate IP, giving MiHoYo the capital to create various low cost style games.MiHoYo’s future comfort zone is large sandboxes + various low cost games with gacha and raising elements, unshakable by anyone.
>>1819329Pagmiliasisters...
>>1819352Removing gacha has various implications, namely shifting your engagement focus and mechanics, the developers probably saw another avenue of monetization for an Anime Warframe model which is interesting but we have yet to see what it is if it's going to stick.If they actually are going this route to reduce FOMO and making it more of a shooter mmo slow progression then it has long term potential.People of then forget or not realize how FOMO very slowly kills a game, most people that drop a Gacha (which are always heavily dependent on FOMO) do not pick it up again after they have seen and felt the hole in their account, if the DNA devs took note of this then that gives their game better long term prospects to maintain a fluctuating player base that plays at its own pace but that comes back to have some fun nonetheless.
>>1819329Not only the mons look like shit but also only Hoyodrones and unasuming normalfags will play this further cannibalizing Hoyo's player base and attention span.
>became the number one gacha company by having the best tech and making the most ambitious games (HI3, Genshin)>throw it all away and produce the sloppiest slops to ever slop (otome, turn based, autochess)
>>1819484i find its funny the real reason why ever single hoyogame only takes at most 10 hours of real playtime per patch is because dawei has to give them more free time to pick up other hoyogame
>>1819486>best techMaybe it's the unity limitations but Genshin looks very low budget outside of cinematics. It didn't age well.
>>1819486They're banking on Cai Haoyu's AI company to deliver them their next major breakthrough namely immersive AI world.
>>1819329>>1819236>troonkai garbage + autochess slophard pass.
>>1819329>bringing kiana back>in pokemon autochess slopGrim.
[HOT NEWS] The director of DNA was the director of Path to Nowhere
>>1819509No surprise beta had so much femcel pandering. Doesn't bode well for the game.
>>1819490>10 hoursbro your skip button? oh wait
>>1819509>Path to Nowhere had you interrogate the girls Very nice
>>1819509Both look chinese alright
>>1819406>>1819408>autobattlerwelp, it's a skiproco kingdom can't release soon enough
>>1819509I'm racist but even I'm not racist enough to think those two are the same people.
>>1819486>Dykeai fIoppact
>dna will have to keep itself alive with skinsWe might see them go the coomer route if they realize what actually sells.
>>1819562They already announced swimsuits on stream
>>1819563They saw what happened to black bacon didn't they...
How is this not exactly the same monetization as Genshin? The currency that buys characters are obtained from dailies and weekly! You can't "grind" themThis is just like how F2P Genshin players obtain primos from dailies/weekly/events/whatever to obtain Genshin characters.Look, I get that there's no gacha you draw from, lottery style. It's not like you can't treat Genshing characters as "costing" 105 pulls, or whatever the average is. In fact, this is how people SHOULD treat the cost of characters, imo. This is just to remove the variance. I assume the character will not cost the same amount of $$$ as Genshin, because that price is a super turnoff when not hidden behind a gacha system.So that could be different, maybe they'll be more reasonably priced.They'll still have dupes and all that stuff, yea?
>>1819498They already release their game, Whispers from the StarIt's reviewed okay but it's not doing very well sales wise
>>1819562You have snowbreak, nikke and azur lane already for coomer skins
>>1819590>3 gamesNot enough.
>>1819471Asians don't really like FPS though
>>1819575instead of getting random shit from the pool, you get exactly what you wantwhat's hard to understand here?i wish more gachas did this honestlyi remember hi3 having a fragment-farming feature for some of their characters (i don't know if it still exists) so i was really shocked to see them completely gate all characters behind gacha in genshin, star rail and zzz
>>1819575No limited banner
>>1819590snowbreak isn't coomer though
If DNA is not a gacha then they are allowed to buff/nerf right?
>>1819618yeah
>>1819618No because you can buy characters. Not like nerfing characters isnt disliked even outside of mobile games.
>>1819422>woke pornRuined
>>1819329Dead game
>>1819575did your tiny brain really think that gacha = buying characters ?
at this point I think we can agree hoyodrones did a better job than kuro at shilling wuwa
>>1819637sorry zhang i don't speak your ugly language
>>1819637saintass in shambles
NEXUS ANIMA WON
>>1819647won the doa award
>>1819647considering HSR is the best selling hoyogame right now I unironically think HNA will be able to do the sameZZZ (and genshin) flopped cause it requires too much playtime from gacha players
DUET NIGHT ABYSS WON
>>1819657friendly reminder DNA was made by Hero Game, which used to own Kuro's share that they sold to Tencent later to fund the project
>>1819647the normie playerbase award
>>1819637WUWONSAAR
New Thread when?
>>1819699not even close to the image or post limit yet
>>>/v/719100220Uh oh The market is in dangerDNA has opened the Pandora's Box with their move.
>>1819714Didnt NTE announce something similar?
All these chink flop gachas look exactly the fucking same, black bacon, guilonwho, etheria that got gigashilled to hell, and now DNA.I don't care if your actionslop has better gameplay value than this other actionslop, can't you at least add something unique to it? For all it's worth and how much ZZZ is fucking trash now, at LEAST it bothered having something unique before with the "urban" setting and TVs. Now it's slowly going towards the same fantasy slop that Genshin is following through that doesn't feel interesting or unique
>>1819726NTE is more up your speed then.
>>1819726because the other stuff doesn't sellhoyo went with back to back limited waifu banners from launch despite having literal furries and a robot in the initial rosterthere's no chance smaller studios are ever gonna try anything else besides waifu if hoyo's zzz failed to outsell hsr (significantly less effort than zzz)
LADs will keep sweeping the market under its rug at the end of the day so writhe and squirm all you want about waifuslops lole
>>1819740Clearly it's not sweeping enough because people are begging for male characters in almost every gacha game. If LADS did its job we wouldn't have this issue.
>>1819744well clearly snowbreak isn't doing well either since every incel is demanding all new gacha to go snowbreak route
>>1819718guaranteed banner is nothing new
>>1819236>Dog camera>Print picture out it's assI believe this is the mc
>>1819329This is undeniably shit and generic but who will win?An unknown who-studio to the masses that has reputation for making coom game from cursory searchorA worldwide brand releasing shitty generic game
>>1819744clearing its sweeping enough that companies are listening to those requests and adding homos in almost every gacha game for that reason
>>1817909And it will die like the last one lol.
>>1819714>unironic gacha apologists/v/ jannies weren't nuking genshin threads for nothing
>>1819781>listening to those requestsRetard, it's hoyo influence.
>>1819329Very uninspired.
>>1819471>3 years later>Miho-who?
>>1819799new games are influenced by other successful games yes
>>1819740The only reason lads makes money is because that game is borderline porn. Shows who the real coomers are. Mixed toilets can't add that shit so they will focus on waifus if they want to live.
>>1819854There's plenty of gachas like Browndust that have that level lewdness, but why aren't they as successful?
Why does fellow moon and chaos zero nightmare have male characters when the mc is male only and they're both ml games???
>>1819858>plentyYou just answered your own question. There are many of these games so players have more to choose from. Lads is literally one game. There are not enough paying femcels to sustain many of them.
>>1819859>Anything from Jewgate>MLlel
>>1819329Why is Blade there...?
>>1819873non-canon game
>>1819329>slop designs>troonkai dykepactglaring warning not to touch this new nighoyo kusoge if you value your sanity
>>1819859probably changed directions mid-development
>>1818926>kekontas>Ryuuku Sensei>KektoneDidn't Kektone moved on to politics? What happened to that?
>>1819945Who said you can't multitask, look as asmond
>>1819329this faux anime style is so fucking ugly holy shit i expect nothing less from the chinese
>>1819329>mantruun is getting nervous
>>1819329
>DNA removes gacha and stamina>Honkek adds gacha and rng equipments to autochess
>>1819597I remember that character fragment "farm" was ass, it's there to give the f2p fags the delusion that the game was generous>only a small handful everyday, hard limit>need hundreds of them>by the time you're done farming them months later, the character has been powercreeped into oblivion.
>>1819596they play PUBG
>>1820035PUBG is TPS
>>1819994yeah mihomo is already jewish even before genshit, hopefully that won't be the case here
>>1819329>Autochess>But you need gacha to use units Lmaoooooooooooooooooo
>>1819329AP won big!
>>1819329Neural Cloud bros...we were supposed to be first.
>sent feedback to HSR team>the CS replied they will forward it to Genshin teamlol?
>>1820128smar india company
>>1820128They only got one AI for genshit
>>1820087I don't think Mihoyo has room to do p2w auto chess since TFT is already the established game.
And shills are still shilling hoyoslop after this... >makes generic hack n slash>makes generic botw clone>makes generic turn-based>makes generic auto-chessDoes hoyo ever make anything interesting?
the best argument against LaDstroonies is showing the amount of homo gachas that have even a quarter of LaDs popularity or revenue
>>1820166>implying that mattersMihoyofags will eat that shit up and ask for seconds.
>>1820173LADS revenue is real, sa*rddit told me so
>>1819859Epic Seven does the same thing, though? The MC Ras is male, but they have male characters to be shipped and paired with the girls. Ras himself is only interested in Mercedes. Rest of the girls are not for Ras. CZN will probably be the same shipshit game. They already have Bria "do Kayron's hair every morning" in her biodata. What is that if not shipshit?
DNA just copy kuro special side view logo
>>1820223>kuro invented the side view logoSaars
Wuwa fans are equating Duet Night Abyss developers, Hero Games, with Kuro Games due to both companies being player-friendly unlike Hoyoverse. This is after Hero Games announced no gacha in DNA.
>>1820228WUWON?!?!?
>>1820228Wuwa still has gachashit though. And it sometimes pushes certain characters to be played with dudes if you want that character to unleash their full potential.
>>1820232Wuwa is as generous as the game that just announced all their characters and weapons are free.
>>1820235?
>>1820215>Bria "do Kayron's hair every morning" in her biodataFor people like you they talked about it in the recent interview
>>1818306>IntentionallyCollateral. The only mod that they haven't broke multiple times is Caroline's panties. Now let's talk about gfl2 mods, shall we?
>>1820228>covid normalfags discovered non-gacha live service gamesKek
>>1820235good morning sir
>>1820238They are still fueling shipshit with that unnecessary detail. Those sneaky bastards are trying to play both sides just like Mihoyo doing (You)pandering and shipshit simultaneously. Are you still willing to trust them after how they paired every single girl in Epic Seven with some other dudes? CZN will be same old shipshit game and only retards and cucks will play it.
>>1820228>no gachaimpressive, now let's see the gameplay
>>1820247Warframe 1:1 copy but with worst animations, enemies and models
>>1820246Don't know anything about Epic Seven. Will play CZN for fatalities, mindbreak thing and yandere katana girl
>>1820251>1:1 copy>worst animations>worstmake up your mind sa*aar
>>1820246I never forgave Epic Seven for censoring Serin's characters; that alone would keep me from playing CZN. Doesn't help that CZN looks kinda like a downgrade from E7 (E7 didn't need chibis, so why does this game)
>>1820262They explained that when they used normal-sized sprites the huge monsters would make the heads too small. But using chibi is such a stupid move for a so-called horror themed game. Nobody will take it seriously now.
>>1820265>But using chibi is such a stupid move for a so-called horror themed game.Lobotomy Corp (Limbus prequel) is very good even with full chibis
>>1820246the fact they're even have to clarify the hair brushing thing means that at the very least they do care to an extent on how the game is going to be seen by current gacha market audienceremember that epic7 is a fucking old ass game, and its players are mostly sweaty pvp goblins with zero fucks given to the game characters and story, kinda like current granblue
>>1820288The game hasn't even launched and there's already this controversy. Even worse they refused to remove that detail from Bria's story. They simply said "It's a misunderstanding" without making further commitments to prevent the same thing from happening in the future. Now imagine the amount of shipshit that is already in the official story script. They also kept emphasizing that the Protos is the most important, yet it doesn't mean other men wouldn't be the 2nd most important. What kind of man would be okay with his waifu braiding another man's hair every morning? Not to mention the fact that those men would appear in the waifus' voicelines, story quests, have gameplay synergies with each other, they will mention each other all the time, etc. The writer for this game is clearly a woman. What a mistake.
>>1820306If the writer is a woman then yeah it's a wrap. You can forget about any girl who's not the main girl.Also just because the MC is "important" doesnt mean there will be affection there.
>Black Beacon current version just got extended by 1,5 months without any notice or explanationsEOS soon, nice wuwa killer Guess the schizo theory that these ex PGR devs were the ones Solon kicked out was true
>>1820313The game is doing fine schizo
>>1820310trueeither they're going for AK route where MC is the most important character in Terra but also has zero pandering with 95% of the waifus (and also being irrelevant for at least 60% of the event stories) or PGR route where MC is the most important character in his world and also has pandering with every waifu/husbando (while the game also actively killing any trace of non-MC ship) and become the most important factor in most of the game's stories
>>1820313>without any notice or explanationsWrong >>1818539
>>1820313firing those devs proves solon is /ourguy/
>>1820310I wasn't sure about CZN (E7 was clearly written by a woman), but that slip-up is really telling. No male writer would make such an amateurish mistake when it comes to waifus. Only female writers would pull that crap.
I don't think the current quality of DNA is strong enough for the game to become a big hit. However, if it manages to survive the honeymoon phase, there could be changes to the gacha monetization system in the future.Ananta devs previously mentioned that they're considering moving away from the traditional gacha card pool as well.
>>1820337True, unfortunately DNA is too low quality to be considered Hoyo killer. I suspect they know this as well, hence the changes.
>>1820341Not everything has to be soe Hoyoshit killer though.
>>1820342*some
>>1820341>quality>mihoyoThis is quality apparently. >>1819329
>>1820345Not saying Hoyo's quality is the best nowadays. It's just that in order to be taken seriously, a Chinese company must go above and beyond. DNA screams "made in China".
>>1820341It doesn't need to be a hoyo killer, and desu I don't think any single game will ever earn that title. However as time goes on, more games will enter the market, offering players more choices and eventually, mhy may lose its dominant position (wuwa for example, despite being a cheap clone of genshin, has managed to survive and pull a significant number of players away) Funnily enough, with the current regression in mhy's titles, I don't think it'll be long before they stop being so greedy with their gacha system.
>>1820306I wasn't aware the writer was a woman. This might have killed my interest for this game.
>>1820353>make a significantly better, polished, higher quality version of the stagnant status quo>get called a cheap "clone"the absolute state of hoyodrones
>>1820353I would've agreed with calling wuwa cheap if it's still 1.0 but it's not and Genshin looks more like the cheap copy lol
>>1820306Fucking kek, even wuwa, which doesn't even do pandering, removed lines of characters before release (like Encore calling Aalto for help when she gets hit).
>>1820361Nah, director, artist, writer, level designer are all men, that woman is just the MC. People suspected the suits in smilegay are the one pulling the strings(like what the fuck is a character from E7 even doing there?)
>>1820306This will be CZN a year after launch.
>which doesn't even do pandering
>>1820371don't bother, wuwa can add literal sex scenes between mrover and the waifus and the retards here will still still said waifus are actually gay for each other
>>1820375but then the female rover would be having sex with them too
>>1820363>>1820365I mean wuwa's presentation does look better than genshin in some aspects, but that doesn't change the fact that its core systems were mostly borrowed from genshin
>>1820377d-doesn't count
>>1820377this is the only thing zzz did better than wuwa
>>1820316>No JP voiceover>All skills are in CN text>Already went the Snowbreak route of gooner panderingITs dOInG JuST FiNe
>>1820377I'm afraid your mental illness is terminal
Mention that interactions are the same for female rover and the wuwafag recoils in terror, unable to offer a rebuttal.
>>1820389the same lines of pandering still exist between the sexes, so who's to say they are not lesbian?
>>1820385no incest no buy simple as
even genshin distinguishes between the 2 in the story
not to mention genshin's promotional material has the male mc as canonmeanwhile wuwa likes to swap between the 2 during it's PVs
no wonder you retards are rejected everywhere in both /v/ and /vg/
>>1820316Just like how Tribe Nine was doing just fine right?Lol the cope is gonna be good
>>1820377That's still MC pandering
>>1820377lmao gottem
Damn, wuwa triggered xim
>>1820363>polished, higher quality versionOnly if you're a surface level retard that can't look past the fancy overproduced cinematicsThe world in WuWa is ass, exploration is non-existent, game is filled with QTEs that play themselves, character kits and team-building are extremely pigeonholed, endgame wallet-checks are much stricter than anything Genshin did in its first 4 years, they cut corners on the modeling and the graphics are extremely blurryIt's LOWER quality than Genshin 1.0 and it's obvious to the normiest of normies, that's why WuWa never took off in the west, and its players are heavily associated with chinks and jeets who are notoriously obsessed with appearances. It is a cheap clone, and all the effort went into making it look more expensive than it is, I've bought this type of thing from Aliexpress more times than I can count.>but we're better than the latest low-quality hoyo dogshitGood for you I guess, but nobody likes that shit either
>>1820369now, where have I seen that before...?
>>1820413pandering to which sex?
>>1820425All of them?
>>1820419Both are skill spam slop but at least wuwa has better graphics
>>1820430glad we agree then
>>1820425Both? They don't negate each other
hoyoturds are winning, help me xisters, i need backup
>wuwa doesn't even do pandering>it does>uuuh, but femc!?
>>1820439I wasn't the one who said that. I just wanted to know if you agreed the girls can be lesbian too
>>1820444>lesbianWtf is a lesbian, I don't believe in any of that made up nonsense
wuwa is ML
>>1820444putting aside the fact that you seem to be going out of your way to pick the MC option that you fucking hate for no reason other than to be malding on this kenyan basket weaving forum for this "lesbian" scenario to happen, both you mlturds and the trannies seem to be hellbent on erasing bisexual for some reason
>>1820453>bisexualThat's just another type of gay
>>1820453the lesbian scenario does happen canonicallyit's fine if we disagree on the word to describe their sexuality
i don't think duet night abyss will be successfulthe character designs mostly look forgettable and overdone, like most other mediocre gacha in the marketunless they manage to make the skins look vastly different than the base designs or just release new characters that look better
>>1820459I like them, reminds me of code vein
>>1820458>sexualityMore made up words, niceFictional characters don't have "sexuality", they don't start fucking each other the moment you look away from the screen. A fictional character likes Rover because she likes Rover, not because she was born pansexual otherkin unicorn that would fuck some other woman if Rover didn't show up
>>1820462>not because she was born pansexual otherkin unicorn that would fuck some other woman if Rover didn't show upProof?
>>1820462I don't know what point you're trying to makeI'm obviously not putting them on the same level as real people but there's no other word to describe it
>>1820425You got xim
>>1820471>I'm obviously not putting them on the same level as real peopleYou areThis entire argument is based on the idea that fictional women have to be a *modern cultural brainrot term* for liking the protagonist (female) which is something only LGBT-tards themselves would say in any other context, but in gacha games we like to support modern libshit ideology to own the trannies, am I right fellow gacha gamers?
>>1820474so what word would you use to describe the female rover relationship with other female characters?
>>1820478They like each other?Saying "lesbian" implies the fictional character is into fucking women with a strapon which isn't stated anywhere, yet the average /gdg/ "ML" tranny will knowingly lie about this on the off-chance people they don't like will stop having fun over it
>>1820474Are you using FemRover?
>>1820481>implies the fictional character is into fucking womenIf she likes another girl then she is
>>1820481so 2 females like each other, that's great. we can leave it at thatunless you want to deny that male and female do not exist in wuwa
>>1820484If I was trying to falseflag a post to prove my point, I genuinely couldn't do better than this, never change /gdg/ trannies
>>1820370You WILL play side story that revolves around other coupleYou WILL cheer for themYou WILL watch them exchange rings with each otherYou WILL whale for the girl anywayYou WILL buy her costume anyway
>>1820490>lesbians are not lesbians because I said soOk
if a character loves you regardless of your MC's gender, they are bisexualthere is no mental gymnastics that can change this, the notion that they view the female MC platonically is just a way to cope with the fact that your waifus become carpet munchers with the press of a button
>>1820497well yeah it's only yuri if you pick female rover, you didn't pick female rover right?
I don't mind bisexual characters as long as they're all for (Me). It literally doesn't matter.
>>1820497like I said, it's fine if we disagree on the word to describe them. they can be bisexual but, at the end of the day, it's still 2 female characters liking each other
>>1820497>character likes (you) so much she doesn't care if you're a man, woman, or a shapeshifting alien tranny>this means she wants to fuck other women and supports LGBT rightsnah
>>1820482yest. troonchadette
>>1820502>she doesn't careThis isn't stated anywhere
So apparently DNA will have two protagonists. Meaning both MCs will be canon.
>>1820506already doing better than bisexual heaven wuwa
>>1820497That just means they're MCsexual.
>>1820497yuri won okay. this is a pagmilia board
>>1820506Not really, both protags are choosable
>>1820509that would imply the game has no concept of male or female sex
>>1820493YIPPE!!
>>1820514Why?
>>1820508>>1820511In fact it will have even more bisexual implications since each MC will have their own sets of companions. Apparently the MC you choose will have their own set of harem, but you will switch to the MC you didn't choose in chapter 2 and they will have another set of harem. So it's literally a Duet kind of story where there are two parties
>>1820518>it will have even more bisexual implications since each MC will have their own sets of companionsread this again please
>>1820497This nonsensical sexuality debate only happens because MLturds are so buck broken they don't believe in pure unconditional love anymore>no, you don't get it, the girl can't just like me and only me, she has to be into other people similar to me as wellSkip the bullshit and go straight for NTR games
>>1820528Holy schizo
>>1820528you're nonsensical if we agree that the concept of sex exists in wuwa, what does it mean when two female characters like each other?
>>1820533Clearly it means both of them were molested as kids and lusted after other women ever since, right?
see we have been telling you wuwa is ML
>>1820535take your meds. you're seeing text that's not there
>>1820535You have /pol/ brainrot
>>1820538no u
>>1820536Wuwa will never be ML
>>1820536you got xim
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>>1820537>you're seeing text that's not thereThat's literary what you're doing, you're trying to argue that the characters liking each other has wider implications on their sexuality that are never explicitly stated in gameI'm mocking you, retard
>>1820554are you saying wuwa has no concept of male or female sex?
>>1820556you got him, xis!
it really is just that easy to trigger them huh
>>1820556I'm saying you're such a massive loser you can't imagine a woman liking (you) for any other reason than wanting to fuck
why do we have to overcomplicate this?wuwa is ML, simple as
>FGO is ML>WuWa isn't MLpick one
>>1820562I can imagine it. but logically, what does it mean when two female characters are in a relationship?
>>1820554>never explicitly stated in gameWhy something natural should be stated
>>1820567>I can imagine it, I just know it's not likely to happennice
>>1820567logically you should pick the male protagonistunless you have no concept of male or female sex?
>>1820573that's fine. as long as we can agree that the female rover is canon
>>1820569>it's natural the girls are thinking about sex behind my back bro
>>1820576>wuwa characters never think about kissing or having sex with the mcit's over
>>1820575It's your game, whatever you pick is canon.Why are zoomers so allergic to agency, this is getting ridiculous, just 10 years ago nobody thought like this or said any of this shit.Did you get a fetish for relinquishing the final say to corporate overlords from all the social engineering on the internet?
>>1820576I don't care about your cuck fetish bro. Just saying that if human likes another human, it's only natural that they have corresponding sexual orientation.
>>1820580I'm not disagreeing with anything. I already said both sides are canon
>there's an alternate universe where i am a womanthis means my future wife(lol) is a lesbian aiiieeeeee
>>1820584so, is wuwa ML or not?
>>1820587isn't she if you want her to be?
>>1820587She's likely a lesbian in that alternative universe, yes
>>1820588that term means nothing outside of chinadefine ML for me
>>1820582>it's natural they have *modern cultural brainrot*animals don't have a sexuality or sexual orientation, they just fuck whatever they like, including inanimate objects
>>1820590i can turn women into lesbians?
>>1820588wuwon is ML saar
>>1820595just pretend you're inside china then
>>1820597if she panders to the female mc, what is she then? you can say bisexual, I'm fine with that
"All humans are bisexual maan, straight or gay are modern day labels bro" T. Straight male wuwatard
>>1820603what mc? i didnt say in-game >>1820587
>>1820607Bisexual is a modern label too, retard
>>1820596>modernThe only modern thing is accepting gays(mentally ill people) as norm. >animals don't have a sexualityI never cared about that topic but I doubt it. And human brain is largely different from other animals. Can animal feel human-like "love"?
>>1820612well, I'm talking about the game. if you want your wuwa characters to lust over your female mc, you have that option
>>1820601I think you know the answer to that
Don't remember if it was posted in here or another thread but does anyone have the screenshot of tectone's views dropping after twitch's viewbot purge
wuwa is MLi look like this btw
>whataboutism>answering questions with another questionour local yuritranny is not feeling it todayxhe's usually more creative than this
>>1820616>accepting>norm>I don't know but I look down on animals because I'm a chinkcouldn't have made a more bugbrained collectivist post if you tried
>>1820588wuwa is ML, /drama/ still thinks master love and master love immortal are the same.
>>1820617weirdo
So what's started this? One guy didn't want to accept that if you pick FeMC his game becomes yuri?
>>1820628yeah
>>1820628just say "wuwa is ml" enough and this happenscucks cannot handle it
>>1820628maybe a retard who picked tramine, troonle or belletroon aka a hoyofag, because you can MC switch in wuwa and fix your account
>>1820628you got xim lmfaooooo
>>1820623Kek, that's an unexpected way of melt.What do you think "norm" means, retard?Other animals inferiority to humans is just an objective fact.
why don't you face reality? you already accepted that it panders to both sexes, so just accept that it can also be yuri
>>1820639>it can also be yuriSureAnd it can be not yuri, which drives drama trannies insane
>>1820640no one disagreed with that
>>1820614Is your argument that wuwa isnt gay because gayness is a social construct?
>>1820640From what I can see only the "sexuality is never stated" guy is insane here
>yuritroon folds the entire wuwa fanbase with FACTS AND LOGICnever saw that one coming
>>1820645it's cringe to see you speak in third person
>all these shitflinging over MC's genderThank god AP won't have FeMC.
>>1820639>melty when firefly got MC pandering>melty when the MC had a bath scene with genshin girls>melty when the MC got pandering with zani>melty when miyabi got MC panderingnta but yurifags dont care about the female avatar, and never will.
>>1820640you got xhem!
>>1820648In what reality are you on?
>>1820643No, my argument is none of the characters are gay because gayness is a social constructThe game itself is gay as fuck
>>1820651cope wuwatranny
What if you choose male for both stories
>>1820652>gayness is a social construct>game itself is gayHow is that works
>>1820653AP has a FeMC. In fact the game was created with her first.
>>1820656>not gachaMOODS
>>1820649you're barking at the wrong tree. I'm on the side of only having male MC
AP is ML(bisexual(socially constructed))
>>1820659It won't.
femc is not cannonshe will never be cannonso no one is yuri
>>1820664Yeah sure like how MLfags were crying that Blumine would be erased from the game. Any day now!
>>1820670I'm happy for you and your Blumine
>>1820658It's gay because I think it is, based on our made up societal normsFictional characters are assumed to be living humans with thoughts and opinions of their own, they don't have to care about what you think your society thinks
>>1820673still seeing text that isn't there bro
>>1820675Fictional characters are not assumed to be living humans with thoughts and opinions?
This is the first time I've seen someone argue that two girls liking each other means they're NOT lesbians.
>>1820676I think you got your answer here >>1820471
>>1820670Any day now, brother. Total yurikeks death.
>>1820680Well you will be waiting that's for sure kek.
>>1820677Because you rarely see smart people post in this shithole. It's definitely a more defensible position than>here's why every character is gay for liking the MC
>>1820677the argument here is thinking yurifags care about the female avatar.
All I got from this discussion is that Wuwa is pretty gay.
>>1820673Woah, I finally almost understood your position, so>Fictional characters are assumed to be living humansTrue, and if human loves another human of the same sex, he's probably gay>but social constructsHumans with same sex preferences clearly exist, how do you call them?>but they are fictionalMade by real humans, "thoughts and opinions" included.So why do you think the "norm" shouldn't be automatically assumed?
>male character likes femc>this means he also likes malemc>wow what a fag>female character likes malemc>this means she also likes femc>NO SHE'S NOT A DYKE THEY AREN'T IN THE REAL WORLD SHE DOESN'T SUPPORT LGBT RIGHTS SHES MY STRAIGHT WIFE AHHHHHH
>>1820493kek, the absolute state of certain gacha games
>>1820493>>1820370this would have been acceptable outside gacha gamesfem devs definitely had a lot of say when it comes to writing. and of course cucks in the dev team just allowing this
>>1820687Because you don't understand that some made up classifications are based on biological absolutes and others are notIf an animal evolved on Earth and is a mammal, it has to produce milkIf you exhibit a single "gay" trait, like painting your nails as a man, I may call you gay, but this doesn't legally bind you to exhibit all the other gay traits.These fictional characters don't even live in the same society as you, yet say they have to behave a certain way with >probably as your only justificationWell in my opinion, they probably like Rover because Rover is just that good, what now?
>>1820684No, it's retarded and the fact that you think it's an actual argument speaks volumes about your low IQ.
>>1820699>>1820704It's mainly Korean gacha games that do stuff like this. They're all obsessed with NTR and shipshit. It happened in Seven Knights. Happened in King's Raid. Epic Seven. Exos Heroes. Brown Dust. You name it. Shipshit, every single one.Now that MC focus has become the trend (thanks to Nikke and Blue Archive) they're all mass-flocking to this trend. But we know their history. We know they won't easily change their ways. The latest slip-up from CZN devs is proof of how out of touch Korean devs are. Whenever presented with the opportunity, they will default to shipping and pairing off characters with each other. They will make the MC disappear and have the female writer's self insert as the main focus. They cannot be trusted.
>>1820698No, his point is that they love you, uh, asexually? Platonically?
>>1820706But is it more retarded than thinking man likes woman = gay because of some schizo multiverse outside factors?
>>1820705does the concept of sex exist in wuwa or not? if it does, what does it mean when two female characters like each other?
>>1820710You're implying pure unconditional love can only exist if the concept of biological sex doesn't, we went over this already. You have no argument and are going in circles
>>1820502>character likes (you) so much she doesn't care if you're a man, woman, or a shapeshifting alien tranny>this means she wants to fuck other women and supports LGBT rightsThat's one reason why a large part of the Global Blue Archive community is anti-FemSensei. Before, no one had anything against FemSensei, but then one day, Students x Students shippers started using FemSensei's existence to say, “If you accept FemSensei, it means you accept that Students also likes girls and therefore that Students x Students is something that could happen.” Since then, the number of people who are anti-FemSensei has increased. Because she was used as a weapon by shippers to justify their Yuri ship Students x Students
>>1820715Modern audience cannot grasp the concept of 90s anime "I'm not gay, I just love you"
>>1820705The main(and only one relevant to that discussion) gay trait is attraction to the same sex mostly. It has nothing to do with society, it's just a biological thing.>probably as your only justificationWell, my "probably" is at least based on something.>in my opinion, they probably like Rover because Rover is just that good, what now?That's just your opinion. Things like "I would like you even if you were a worm" is what should be stated directly in game.
>>1820714it's existing between two female characters, right? just answer the question
>>1820709what the fuck are you talking about
>>1820707>nikke>blue archivethose two games are also full of shipshit and yuri though
>>1820719retard
>>1820707Well if they wanted to follow that trend, they wouldnt have added homos into the gacha to begin with. They just cant help themselves.
>>1820709its gay because the devs made romantic cutscenes between two women, theres no schizo multiverse theories, the devs made the game gay in this universe
>>1820724define what you mean by pure love, does it mean there are 0 sexual intentions behind it? these characters would never kiss or have sex, right?
>>1820721I'm talking about >>1820698
>>1820661>slop designsno
>>1820716Like for example CLAMP manga are always praised for "muh LGBT representation" meanwhile none of the characters are truly gay, they simply love each other regardless of gender. How Tomoyo loves Sakura, Touya and Yukito, Fay and Kurogane, Doumeki and Watanuki, they're all not gay.The labeling of fictional characters' sexuality is exclusively a western thing. Specifically 2010 era Tumblr. They love putting characters in boxes. GTFO with those silly "gay lesbian bisexual" labels.
>>1820732>they're all not gayProof?
>>1820732if you're trying to make it sound less woke its not working
>>1820732so they are just really good friends? they will never kiss or have sex with each other?
>>1820726So we determined the devs are gay, but what about the characters?
>>1820722>ba>yurifound the faggot
Damn, this whole argument is so dumb
>>1820737Nobody knows and honestly it's never an important plot point in those manga. For example in xxxHolic because Watanuki turned immortal, the two people who loved him (Himawari and Doumeki) decided to have children together so their descendants would always be there for him.
>>1820729No, it means the other party doesn't need to fulfill *condition* to be loved. They can fuck or not fuck, it doesn't change anythingYou're trying to argue that>sorry, I can only love people with a penisis an actual thing a character has to say to not be considered gay
>>1820746so we've established that everything in wuwa is platonic. good, I agree.
your waifus are gay(you) are gaycope and seethe
>>1820748Define platonic
>>1820751not sexual or physically romantic at all
>>1820746>platonicMost Wuwa characters don't have enough bond with Rover for that.For wuwa, that guy's argument only works with fated love
>>1820754This is a retarded modern oversimplification, ancient greeks had a different opinion on the matter
Greece is ML
>>1820717>Things like "I would like you even if you were a worm" is what should be stated directly in gameI'm not talking hypotheticals here, characters liking (you) regardless of gender literary happens in game
>>1820761kill yourself midwit
[Sad News] Saintontas and his father found out hoyoverse been using botshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2oBb-p4Pk
santonas been camping this thread for hours
>People ITT don't know what omni pandering isAre you guys retarded? Even western 90's RPGs had companions be playersexual sluts because it's easier and panders to more people
>>1820775I'm telling you these people are either tourists or underage.
>>1820768Rover swap is just a game function, soMaybe it's different universes.Maybe all characters simply attracted to both males and females.Maybe it's just fated love thing.But the thing you're pushing possible only with characters like Shorekeeper or Camellia
>>1820775cool. but what does it mean when two female characters like each other?
>>1820421kek This always makes me laugh due to it's stupidity.
>>1820775Wuwa is an ml game but its not a straight game because it panders to everyone. It cant be both ml and for chuds when there are male playable characters and a femc.
>>1820775Well, that's obvious, but the whole argument started with this>>1820453
>>1820770>Aristotle gives examples of philia including:>young lovers (1156b2)Just admit your argument is>philia fags btfo, if it's not pure concentrated eros, that shit is gayalready, you don't actually believe wuwa characters are gay for liking Rover, you just say it because you think it might convince someone other retard lol
>>1820453Xister bisexuals are always 100% gay. There's no such thing as a half-homo since anyone who can stand having sex with the same gender is 100% gay by default even if they can also stand having sex with the opposite gender.
>female characters like female roverit's not gay I swear saars
>>1820790>female character likes male rovershe's totally a lesbian bro
>>1820788Damn bro you're so smart
>>1820791already established that both are canon
just accept that your game has faggot shit in it
>>1820791Can both Rovers exist at the same time?
>>1820788its not about the characters, its about the game being gay and not for straight males because it tries to appeal to women or yurifags by having a femc. No amount of low iq sophistry is going to change this
>>1820793So you're saying the player gets to decide?Spicy immortal confirmed as LGBT allies lmao
>>1820796I know two games where both MCs exist at the same timecare to guess which ones?
>>1820778Did r/gacha found this place or something?>>1820782Same as when two males like each other or a male and a female like each other.>>1820784Maybe if you are some sort of freak that thinks it can be 2 things at once >>1820787>hellbent on erasing bisexual for some reasonActual skittle squad member or bait. You hear the term "bisexual erasure" all the time with twitteroids.
Livestream + gameplay reveal for shota game ZeroERA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0KHjqKzWk8
>>1820804So? What's your point?
>>1820385ZZZ has to make the incest route possible. They're literally the best ship there is.
>>1820804genshit and zzz
>>1820809that those two pander better than the bisexual heaven that is wuwa
>>1820798>I lost the argument about characters being gay in-universe, now I will repeat my usual mantra that boils down to the game is gay because I dislike its contentsPut this as a disclaimer next time you try to drum up a crusade against the top ML game in China
>>1820807rope yourself joseimuke tranny
>One of the official Genshin staff members is suspected of trash-talking other games online. Just several hours ago, someone on Tieba dropped a major trvke bomb exposing Aquaria, one of the main game designers for Genshin, for trash-talking other games such as WuWa, AK, ToF, and Wukong on his social media. The person cross-checked his official nickname, which matches the name of a character from a CBT datamine, along with his Tieba and Bilibili IDs. The Steam avatar and Tieba avatar also matched, confirming the connection. Not long after, the original post and every repost of the news were deleted from the bar. The supposed Bilibili account of Aquaria also changed its name and deleted its posts. This reminded people of last year's drama when HI3rd's Fuhua self-insert femcel was "doxxed" by the streamer Mihachi, who was later banned from Bilibili and arrested by the police. Bar friends are joking that MHY's social management team will need to work overtime tonight, monitoring major communities because of this incident.Video archive: https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1zgeUzzEf4/Screenshot archive in case bilibili video gets wipedhttps://files.catbox.moe/mkamoi.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/6ttqeo.jpghttps://files.catbox.moe/rbucjz.jpg
>>1820802yes, but canonically the characters still like the female roverwhat exactly are you trying to say with this?
>>1820805Males are not the only audience for wuwa because the developers themselves dont want you as the main audience, they could give you a nice gatekept game but they want females and yurifags to play the game too. You lash out at the tourists but kuro wants the tourists, kuro wants yurifags to have fan service too
>>1820816This guy?
>>1820823yes
>>1820805r/gacha has been raiding this place since forever. Who do you think was seething at Snowbreak in all those early threads?
>>1820824He trashtalks other games while Genshin is in that state???
>>1820823Literally me
>>1820827it's should be clear to everyone at this point that hoyo is very arrogant
>>1820816I support the mixed toilets fighting each other
>>1820827What state? They still sell more than 99% of other gacha games.
>>1820796No, its only one character. The game even tells you "do you want to change you APPEARANCE" when you switch. Its also the reason they constantly change the mc on the trailers like here: https://youtu.be/zH_UGkq5heI?si=u3ThSRDf1GqXiHVO&t=96So what happens is that the characters are MCsexual in the game, its that simple. Or maybe playersexual, since there was that one trailer with Camellya where she tried to reach across the screen to directly fuck the player.
>>1820832A state of being static as fuck. It's the peak definition of "same old". Stuck in the past.
>>1820816>trash-talking other games such as PooWa, ArKnotsBASED
>>1820835I'm just saying that even if they're static as fuck, they have the right to trash talk other games since even in their lowest point, they still sell more than these other games.
>>1820839No, they don't. That's just arrogance. All while refusing to give Genshin players what they want.
muh sales!
>>1820805>Same as when two males like each other or a male and a female like each other.why do they refuse to use the word gay at all costs?
>>1820839yet you're still poor
I've never seen this much cognitive dissonance over such a simple question
>>1820816[cont] Some people managed to take screenshots of comments on Bilibili before Aquaria deleted his posts. He openly insults players who criticize Genshin and calls F2P players who can't clear the newest endgame content retards.
>>1820844>>1820845Let's be real. The benchmark of success for all these games is their sales. Being among the top every month for all their main games puts them at the top of the food chain whether you like it or not.
>>1820850based
>>1820851Only for industry insiders, suits, and investors. But knowing your dev isn't actively trying to improve the game, instead spending his time to trashtalk, is not good news for Genshin players.
>>1820851CCs related content hours is what only matters just go check godtone sir
>>1820850[cont] Aquaria believes Genshin's TCG mode is way better than Yugioh. Do you agree?
>>1820858He's correct on this one. Genshin TCG is "healthier" than Yugioh "I move and move again and again and you know what? I just won"
>>1820851whatever you say, aquaria
>>1820858Current Yugioh is winning on one turn, so being better than dogshit is... Certainly the bar of all time.The only design Genshin has that's on-par with DMG is Mona, though. No competition on any of the main anime series girls.
>>1820858genshin tcg is a joke but being better than ygo in '25 is not hard at all
>>1820858[cont] The Zelda copycat accusation still leaves a scar in Aquaria's heart
>>1820871But it is a Zelda copycat. What's he's talking about?
>>1820871is he talking about the ccp?
>>1820875about nintendo, and unconsciously mihoyo itself
>>1820877kekpottery
>>1820850But is he wrong?I haven't played that shit in years, can a F2P clear it without dupes or meta teams if he's good enough, or is the dude talking out of his ass?Making shit too hard to force spending is bad, but giving the cripples their wheelchair kills games faster
Dont come to NGA tonight, (((they))) are watching
>>1820656Do you even get that option?
>>1820877>>1820871we call it "The pot calling the kettle black"
>>1820881>can a F2P clear it without dupes or meta teams if he's good enoughthe answer is of course, no
>>1820656Then you'll have roughly the same looking characters for both sides
also genshin 6.0 stream will happen on 29th, I wonder if they will edit Aquaria out of the stream due to this drama, or maybe they will keep him and delete the troublesome comments instead
Why the mihoyo employees never have the courage to admit their views publicly? Always hiding behind their online accounts, then deleting comments and posts when being discovered. Meanwhile the devs in the West often said their views outright, sometimes even in conflict with playerbase.Either you don't talk, or talk without fearing. Mihoyo is full of cowards
>>1820896remember their slogan? tech otakus save the worldthey are arrogant but they cant show that because you are supposed to believe they are your fellow weeb friends that try saving the world
>>1820896>Why the mihoyo employees never have the courage to admit their views publicly?I mean, Mihoyo is the one gachage company that almost had their CEO murdered....
>>1820953Its also the only gacha dev company that had their CEO cry in stage like a bitch twice, begging their players to spend more money on their games, kek.
>>1820850>>1820858Unironically based.
>>1820816Kek. Even hoyotards developers are as toxic and retarded as their fans. Same as their CEO acting like the victim by crying when his game was criticized.
>>1820816>WuWa, AK, ToF, and WukongAll those games are trash and there is nothing wrong about trashing them on a private account
>>1820981you're in no place to talk if your game is worse
>>1820992Genshin is better than all of thoseAnd he has every right to shit talk them as long as he's anonymous and not an official face
>>1820993>t. Aquaria
>>1820953>hi3 incidentImagine pandering to yurifags, kek
>>1820896>Why the mihoyo employees never have the courage to admit their views publicly?Cosplayers get blacklisted by them if they cosplay other games characters. I'm willing to bet they're just as cutthroat with their own employees. If your opinion goes against the company, the company goes against you.
Don't worry wuwa shills, I fully support the captain and his harem
>>1821080Brant-sama...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c02ScA7-41MTontas dropped another Trvke
>>1821009It wasnt a yurifag
>>1821009>>1821097Not gonna lie, sometimes I get the impression the fags posting here were born yesterday
>>1821085Snowbro300 featured
>>1821097>It wasnt a yurifag>next honkai gachas went full mixed toilet>then, they made a ml gacha (zzz) with ex hi3 devsit was.
>>1821080The best part is that male players love Brant, because his only role in the story was to be a wingman for Carlotta and Rover, and his character quest was just him being a bro going into a treasure hunt, he didn't interact with a single other character.https://youtu.be/aWDlhOJ7MRc?si=TD7jjlqYyzymgZgUThis is how kuro does male characters, they are either for yumes or are wingmen/bros.
>>1821119The blessing of mixed toilets, characters for everyone
>>1821102I don't watch Kektontas, but this thumbnail is actually true lol.
>>1821118I know making stuff up is considered thread culture here but damn this shitpost is next level.
>>1821124>exposing ximself as a touristdear oh dear..,he doesnt know....https://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/250819z
>>1821127Make your bets gentlemenJeet or ChatGPT?
>>1821118Retard
>>1820858Anything is better than yugioh. The playstyle is to vomit out a full board in one turn while not allowing your opponent to play any card.
>>1820868True if you don't play the game
>>1820953>nothing burger threatThat's like reporting someone for "death threat" when he's just replying to your post with "kys".
>>1821166>threatRetard
>>1820731sure buddy>captcha arpg
>>1820816had this been about wuwa's dev r/gachagaming would've salivated and make an immediate thread for it + 1k+ updoots
AK x Bandori collab
HNA new PVhttps://x.com/houkaiNA/status/1960915243930092006
>>1821171Yes, you are.
>>1821164>off meta control deck gameplayDoesn't count.
>>1821450>control deck>4 turns on averagedo yugioh babies really?
>>1821471The thing about turncounts is that they don't account for pseudo ftks and other unwinnable game states where the winning party can't push for game in the first attack. Almost every YGO game is decided in the first turn.
https://x.com/dnabyss_en/status/1960617812596285836?s=46 why are gacha games so behind on 3d modeling
>>1821495DNA is not a gacha game.
>>1821496play along and hate the game will you
>>1821450>Branded>control deck>off metaIt was in top 10 of Rating Duels two months ago>>1821478It's not 2016>one turn is le bad
>>1821507>One turn is le goodShut the fuck up, retard. Imagine if Yata lock isn't banned. Now that's the current Yu-Gi-Oh. What a trash card game. Playing the GX game era and XYZ one is really different. One doesn't satisfy me one bit.
>During wuwa maintenance the thread was moving at lightspeed, full of shitposting>After the new wuwa version comes out it slows down to a crawl, less than 20 posts in 12 hours.I'm happy to see than my fellows anons have at least some taste in gachas, as much as they shitpost the game
[GOOD NEWS]HSR is ML
>>1821516>wuwa maintenancefalse, those posts were all me and I don't even play wuwa
>>1821516>my fellows anonsThey are wuwa doomposters and currently camping in /wuwa/ anon
>>1821535This post is why nobody takes MLfags seriously.
Hoyo will never be ML.
Guys I think mhy might be a big fan of cyge lol
>>1821550Don't accuse them of plagiarism. Aquaria would be sad.
>>1821535>>1821546>worst falseflag everThis is why nobody takes yuriniggers seriously
>>1821582Yeah that falseflag sounds so bad, you might as well have done it yourself just to call it out, schizobro.I don't see why anyone else would bother replying to such low quality posts.
>>1821535>shiptranny heaven and ""best selling gacha"" according to the meme charts>making ML ads out of nowhere.hsr really flopped eh?
>>1821590they always do that to bait retards, everyone with above room temperature iq knows mihoyo games are anti-ML. when you call out that they ship the characters after a patch of two they start panicking and making excuses, just like nikke players.
>>1821587There are retards playing Wuwa, a game with homos. They dont really care about the whole "dont play with male characters" thing they tried to push. So yeah they are that retarded.
Is your ~~slop~~ game on this list?
>>1821597The games I play are even sloppier than those
>>1821597>nine master love gachaspromilia survey?
>>1821597>wuthering waves firstthey are scared
>>1821587>might as well have done it yourselfYou're tricking anyone, yurinigger.
>>1821597>1st placeWUWONSAAR
wuwa goddamn flopped
>>1821679Everyone is saving for the footslut.
nice cope
>>1821679honk kong is not a country
>>1821679Sir have you checked the steam chart already
>>1821679Selling women can only work a limited amount of times.
>>1821689but it works for genshin...
>>1821679WuW-ACK!
>>1821690Natlan flopped so hard they've gone back to mixing the genders.
>>1821692you said that but there's a chance flins will be the only 5* male of the region just like kinich
>>1821693The chance is really low if they already announced the full lineup that includes Varka and Durin.
>>1821696capitano and ororon were also introduced in 5.0 trailer and we saw what happened after
>>1820816Bar friend managed to find his gaming account
>>1821697Capitano, just like Signora, used NPC model and we know just how lazy Genshin devs are. I guess we'll see. But everything points out to higher male ratio compared to Natlan.
>>1821701i'm not doubting they are playable, just saying they could always rug pull the male wanters with 4* rarity like they did with zzz
>>1821699link?
>>1821516now let's see if this line changes if you're the female rover
>>1821718of course it doesn't? every character in the world of the game is rover-sexual. the game even explicitly tells you you are choosing your appearance, its not a different character.
>>1821725>rover is genderfluidgot it
>>1821730Yep. Turns out its kinda irrelevant when you are from an incredibly advanced alien race that has been shaping the world events for the last 10000 years, what with creating deities and controlling near omniscient AI cores and all that shit. Who could had thought.JRR Tolkien wrote this on this very subject:"Now the Valar took to themselves shape and hue; and because they were drawn into the World by love of the Children of Ilúvatar, for whom they hoped, they took shape after that manner which they had beheld in the Vision of Ilúvatar, save only in majesty and splendour. Moreover their shape comes of their knowledge of the visible World, rather than of the World itself; and they need it not, save only as we use raiment, and yet we may be naked and suffer no loss of our being. Therefore the Valar may walk, if they will, unclad, and then even the Eldar cannot clearly perceive them, though they be present. But when they desire to clothe themselves the Valar take upon them forms some as of male and some as of female; for that difference of temper they had even from their beginning, and it is but bodied forth in the choice of each, not made by the choice, even as with us male and female may be shown by the raiment but is not made thereby."
Wuwa supports trans rights
>>1821590They do that constantly and with all their games. Keep in mind ZZZ, their current dumpster fire had Caesar who debuted with a love song for (you) and look at the state of it now.
I still can't believe that Wuwa rover is actually god. I thought it'd be an exaggeration that "the player is treated like a god" but he is genuinely unironically god in the lore.I know MLfags are insecure but it gets THAT bad?
>>1821781Would you say the Traveller is a better main character than Rover?
>>1821781It's the same as ArknightsIs Arknights ML?
>>1821781trailblazer and traveler are both gods btw.
LaDS is ML
No one posted about IGN's fuck up? Apparently they posted something about an open beta for Endfield and said that the release date will be next year. They later deleted the tweet
[Good News] Nexus Anima is a boy, just like Tears of Themis
>>1821820Sisters we won
>>1821799i-its okay when hoyo does it
>>1821806I personally stopped caring about ign and other game sites a decade or more ago so I wouldn't know about it.
>>1821820Women are the future
>>1821781I always know i was a god.
>>1820881No. F2P means Free To Try. But you must pay eventually. Mihoyo and any other Gacha will hard boil you until you pay some money into their services.
is this the biggest flop of the century?
>>1822098It became too much of a worse and paywalled koikatsu scene viewer
[GOOD NEWS]mihoyo’s newest title has more men than women
>>1822117LMAO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGfTS72aEOshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvKCyJ64WuEUnlike Manjuu with Azur Promilia, Mihoyo knows half the audience for cutesy monster games are women.
>>1822098MLfags have no money. Hence why nobody listens to their extremist demands.Not even Manjuu lol.
>>1822117>>1822129>mihoyo’s newest title has more men than womenI kneel Hoyo
>>1822129ooooofyikeswhat the fuck is this
>>1822129ahahaha damn
>>1822117How many of those male characters are even 5*?
>>1822129This looks like the sloppiest Hoyo slop ready to be served to the normalfag masses, party games? auto chess? urban setting? the most Fortnite looking Pokemon i've seen, i mean, not even Hoyo players of their previous titles seem to be the target audience for this.
>>1822150If anything since Hoyo games are popular with normalfags, catering hard to them is the smart move. They are trying to get back Genshin and HSR normalfags who only care about casual gameplay + auto battle.
>>1822153>They are trying to get back Genshin and HSR normalfags who only care about casual gameplay + auto battle.And that's not going to work since normalfags who dropped Genshit dropped playing gachashit altogether. This is just going to split the Mihoyo playerbase further than ZZZ and previously HSR, already did.
>>1822160But maybe Honkai N. Anima isn't gacha and we're about to see Hoyo's first attempt at competing against Daddy Tencent.
>>1822160It will certainly split the Hoyo fanbase even more, but at least they'll kill Azur Promilia and Wangyue in one swoop.
Anons are completely deranged and are now seething about a pokemon game having male trainers and playable characters. Like they forgot why they seethe at males to begin with
>>1822165>but at least they'll kill Azur Promilia.Eh...outside of the same concept of Pokemon like creatures, I dont see how this game would even impact AP at all. Because the appeal in that one is in the girls not the creatures themselves. Also they do not share similar gameplay either.
>upcoming urban setting game>upcoming urban setting game>upcoming urban setting gamelmao no, Azur Promilia feels fresh now, we've come full circle
>>1822160>split the Mihoyo playerbaseI don't think this new game appeals to existing audience
>>1822117NO MALES = NO SALESWAIFUSLOP GODDAMN FLOPPED
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/text/nexus%20anima/ayeup, HNA is defo not for the current hoyo audience
>>1822129>>1822150>>1822153cope retardsit's gonna overtake TFT and mog your shitty gachage
>>1822179>/hig/ laughed at genshin when it was first announced>became the biggest gacha in the world>/gig/ laughed at hsr when it was first announced>became the 2nd biggest gacha in the world>/hsrg/ laughed at zzz when it was first announced>became the 3rd biggest gacha in the world>/zzz/ laughed at hna when it was first announced>???you do the math tranny
>>1822182ZZZ sneak
>>1822182Biggest gacha is not biggest mobile game, just see the post above yours
>>1822182So, it will earn even less than zzz?
>>1822187and its still gonna mog your trash game buddy
>>1822188Why so mad?
>>1822188But my game is Honor of KINGs doe?
>>1822191just fact bro>>1822192post your account then
>>1822169>Because the appeal in that one is in the girlsCamerafags can't even look properly at the girls thanks to upskirt filter, let alone (You) pandering.
>>1822193>just fact broIf it will earn less than zzz, it will earn less than wuwa too
>>1822196lol wuwa wish it could make as much as zzz
>>1822194>can't even look properly at the girlsSkill issue
>>1822190Japan can only complain. They trashtalk Hoyo games for quality. Meanwhile their game looks like this. They should just shut up and rot with their JPG collectors.
>>1822199ignore the butthurt snowcuck, he has been spamming that for weeks
>>1822198Post the latest sales chart
>>1822201gamefreak being lazy piece of shit doesnt mean jp cant make gamehell cn still steals jp idea until this day
>>1822199>have to do backflip and pause trick>still can't get a proper shot>still obscured by the mountThanks for proving my point.
>>1822207What use is having great ideas if they can never make shit worth playing? Hoyo is creatively bankrupt but at least they're not constantly 10 years behind.
>>1822211>they're not constantly 10 years behind.lmfao they are literally regressing right now because jp dont make good game fast enough for them to steal
>>1822190Japan always late to the party award
>>1822201wtf are those textures? it's 2025 and this is what pokemon looks like?
>>1822210Sure bro
>>1822220you got xim
>>1822214Gameplaywise sure Chinese games only steal from others. But they work harder and faster than anybody else. Give them a good gameplay to copy from, and they'll give you a working, good-looking, optimized gacha game that releases globally within 2 years.
>>1822165>thinking a game with more males than females is going to kill APLOL. LMAO.
>>1822129>urbanslop>mount gliding>character customizationLooks alright but those won't remedy its shit autochess gameplay.
>>1822229Shit autochess gameplay will be the thing that carries that game.>Perfect for women>Perfect for mobile gaming>Perfect for P2W PvP>Perfect for content creatorsIt's the perfect casual bait.
>>1822229>autochessI think just calling it "autochess" is being narrow this is a full blown social game, the autochess will probably be the most "Important" minigame in there
>>1822235APxisters...>>1822239Anantabros...
>>1822239the autochess part seems like it'll be the main "gameplay" for battles with the pokemon but everything else will be collecting and mini games from what the trailer showed
>>1822129Looks sleep inducing, but will probably be popular with girls/kids.
>>1822165>they'll kill Azur PromiliaNot if manjuu decided to remove FMC in the foreseeable future.
We should make a petition for AP to remove the kibos. 99,99% people only care about the girls anyway.
It starts with blumine getting removed, then kibos, then the gameplay, then it becomes another Koikatsu scene viewer, and then >>1822179 happens.
>>1813493kek called it.
>>1822254obsessedhttps://arch.b4k.dev/vmg/search/text/koikatsu/
>>1822262There's no better way to describe it doebeit?
>>1822254LMAOOO gottem
>cn already noticed the similaritylol
whos gonna win hoyo or nintendo?
>>1822315wuwon
>>1822292Not surprising.
>>1822254>blumine getting removedHah! Just like how you fags were crying for a solid year?
i think ananta need to show something and not wait until tgs
>>1822331let them cook
>>1822331Unless they can deliver a CBT straight away, no.
one of the things mhy did right is announcing beta test right after teasing new game
>neuvillette but even gayer
>>1822372He's more like a mix of Zhongli, Neuv, and genderbent Clorinde
On the TGS section of Azur Promilia website: "to be released on PC and Mobile"They no longer mention the console version, so it's possible that the PS5 version is canceled.
MiHoYo is about to take action against TencentThis new game will definitely become a formidable rival to TFT. This is MiHoYo’s first move and I have a feeling they’ll release a MOBA and an FPS next, aiming directly at Honor of Kings and PUBG. Now the Tencent game lineup is in danger.
>low budget slop>formidable rival
>>1822377based as hell. that means panties are staying
>>1822377ok but femc?
>>1822386she's staying
>>1822392*yawn*nothingburger news
>>1822394no news is good news
>>1822395hopefully they're working on the new canon where femc is your gf
In other news, Kuro games keep making improvements to their games, even though my 4080 super can barely handle themhttps://youtu.be/qeKLM-_P0kA?si=OpZmdFvaMe4WB39-
>>1822432>even though my 4080 super can barely handle themworks on my 7900xtx
>lvl 100 is locked behind c6 5*genshin is back babytop 1 of revenue chart every month now
>>1822452It's worse, it's that you can uncap anyone but have to get C7+ of someone to get the material for it. So now they're just making fun of you for failing coinflips
>>1819511What femcel pandering? You jeets are delusional.
>>1822464The story focused too much on the Alhaitham looking homo while female characters were mostly in the background. It's telling.
>>1822168This place has people proud of their untreated schizophrenia so they forget that Pokemon became a franchise powerhouse because it caters to normal people, and not schizos who need every game to be a porn eroge gacha in order to feel some sort of power in their shitty lives. Pokemon has normal players who never minded cool male characters existing.
>>1822469You're insane
>>1822479>no argumentBet you didn't even play the beta.
>>1822477Yeah but they also expect people to pull for characters. I doubt normal people like this shit. Also autochess has a pretty limited appeal.
>>1822117>""yuri"" franchise (Honkai IP) has more malewank than genshin and ZZZ combined.*Inhales*LMEOW, yuriknife-kun created a butterlfy effect.
>>1822386If a game's reveal trailer uses the female MC instead of the male one, then there is 0% chance the female MC would ever get removed. That's their intended MC.
>>1822509That would mean betraying their estabilished playerbase. Surely they're not dumb enough to do that.
snowflopped
snowbreak is old news, xiseveryone is seething about wuwa now
now that genshin 6.0 failed to save the game which game are we moving to?
>>1822537Waiting for Endfield because all the other options are dogshit
>>1822536You don't get it bro. I'm trying to divert attention to snowflop.
Now that you said it, a lot of times when the xisters are seething at wuwa, someone would randomly bring up something about snowkek. Like this >>1822098 and this >>1822535 so it's looking like snowkek is really the diversion tactics. kek
>NetEase Games' hidden revenue exceeds 10 billion; revenue tracking is now meaninglessAfter NetEase released its financial report, its gaming revenue hit a new high in the first half of the year: 14 billion from PC games, 31 billion from mobile games, and 2 billion from IP derivatives.However, 3rd party data shows NetEase's mobile game revenue was only 25 billion, implying a hidden 6 billion (revenue from NetEase's payment site) which could exceed 10 billion annually.With over 10 billion in hidden revenue per year, there's no longer any need to track monthly mobile game revenue.This year, no NetEase mobile game event has outperformed Tencent Video, let alone Douyin, yet revenue still hit a record high. This suggests the hidden 6 billion in half a year makes iOS rankings irrelevant.NetEase Games has entered a phase where only the annual financial report matters, all other data tracking is now completely unnecessary.
>>1822585gachagaming meme chart bros?!?
pc numbers are a cope they said
>>1822585>NetEase Games has entered a phase where only the annual financial report matters, all other data tracking is now completely unnecessary.>is now completely unnecessary.no wonder hoyobots are the only ones spamming those literally who? memecharts
genshin is very generous saars
Only hoyotroons and femcels who want to make lads look bigger than it actually is care about memecharts.
So true Ragnit
>that only explains honkeks boiling at wuwa and zzz (same hoyo company), those two gachas truly outsold star rail with PC/console money
>https://automaton-media.com/en/news/japans-gacha-game-industry-in-a-sinking-titanic-phase-developer-says-switching-to-console-game-development-not-an-easy-solution-for-many/According to a survey by the Japan Online Game Association (source: ASCII Japan), the domestic online game market was worth an estimated 1.105 trillion yen in 2024 (about $7.48 billion), a steady decline from 2023’s $10.89 billion. Meanwhile, average mobile game development costs in 2024 rose to about $3.33 million per title, 4.7 times higher than ten years ago. Combined with the effect of market oversaturation and strong competition from high-budget publishers in China and South Korea, Japan’s domestic gacha game market will likely have a difficult time regaining its momentum.
>>1822720>RegainingThey ain't gaining shitThey lost the battle to chinks and gooks long time agoThe elevens had all the power to dominate forever, but never exerted it.
>>1822720Imagine having to actually put in effort and investment to get a return of 30% like every other fucking industry. The times of earning money by developing slop are over, but we all know how slow the executives in japanese companies are.
>>1822720deserved
>>1822720Next time they should actually try making a good gacha game instead of rehashing the same formula ten times over
>>1822720Regardless of how you think it was the chinkflu that caused Genshin's success, you have to admit that the japan gacha bubble was going to fall off soon enough.
BAD NEWSour favorite gach cc got kick out of mythic talent
>>1822760assbald next
>>1822760who?
>>1822758And yet FGO and umas are consistent top5, so is the pokemon card game if you count it as such.
>>1821535>HSR is MLThat's some tobacco and sugar industry tier lying lmao
[RETURNING NEWS]Genshin is ML
>go check the twitter of our favorite girl>see thisI lover her so much
>>1822871
>>1822871I still won't play it but I will look forward to porn of her.
>>1822872They never will, get over it already
>>1822882It's about the message.
>>1822871>more genshin MLat this rate any lumine picker has a bricked account.
>>1822292>nintendo invented candles
>>1822871good character design stuck in a femcel and tranny-infested cuckge
>>1822879Same.
>do the photo event in genkek>get paired with homos in all region but inazuma>need to use claymore user or traveler for Gaeya photo hinting at Dickluk x Gaeya pairingTruly the game for fujos. Back to the roots, baby!
MLbros how can we come back from this
Honkai Nexus will be ML
>>1822720aww, poor babies, no one wants to spend thousands of dollars per account on pngs anymore, they have to actually put effort and fair pricing.
>>1822254i think the kibos are awesome and i love bluminejust not as a pci want her to be a unit that i can interact with and maybe romancewhy do you always try to make it seem like im some crazy when i have a perfectly reasonable position of wanting the all female gacha to stay all female with the only male in the cast to be the player character?you're the agp that wants to play as a female avatar in a game thats pitching towards men
>>1823058ML as in mixed loo, yes
>>1823058Male love, yes
>when you're just a normal college student working part time job and you have to deal with retarded femcel who wants phainon cup
>>1823249I think you're the retarded one, anon. He's correct that there should be additional staff when doing event, especially if the event is collaboration with a big name franchise.
>>1823058Mixed Letrine
>>1823058>more males than females>first two honkai characters from their previous gachas are turbocuckbaits/shizo magnetsbe better and drop troonkaisloppa.
genWONwuLOST
>>1823304Don't even need to watch that to know he's being sarcastic
>>1823368OH NO NO NO
>>1823373I bet Fat xiao did thisHe's such a fucking snake
>>1823378>honkai star derail
>>1823378>what himeko's coffee does to a motherfucker
>>1823386I stopped playing hsr in 2.5. Does himeko ever get a personality? All of her characterization till that point was "I make bad coffee, lol", and she never did anything in the story.
>>1823408idk i quit after they got to space chinkland
>>1823378>
>>1823412what the fuck does this mean
>>1823414never seen family tree?
>>1823368>chinks always shat on scaratroonche because he turned a loli into cuckbait>ratio silent with yanqing (hsr) who canonically turned a loli into cuckbaitkek.
>>1823414cai haoyu original plan was genshin and zzzdawei forced the honkai slop
One day gacha will leave the lesser phonefags behind and fully transition to focusing primarily on PC developmentThat will be a glorious day
>>1823433the mobile gaming market is the biggest one so that's never happening
Been a long time but it's still sad that yu peng chen was kicked from genshin music team because someone doesnt like himThe nod krai concert was so forgettable
>>1823440>Almost every time people dig into MHY's internal staff, they uncover all kinds of outrageous comments about YPC. No wonder he couldn’t stick around and left halfway through.https://tieba.baidu.com/p/9991786989
>>1823440>>1823444What happened with YPC? His music was the only highlight of Genshin and it shows how generic everything sounds like now
>>1823433already happened with zzz,wuwa,genshinpromilia,and endfield are pc heavyuma and blue archive have steam portsonly hsr cater to phonefags.
>>1823459Didn't genshin only EOS their PS4 version? The mobile still lives. Which it's kinda fucked to think that a literal phone can handle space issues and graphics better than a PS4
>>1823459mihoyo games still look like absolute shit though. Like, zzz uses so much fog to hide the low resolution of the textures and models its crazy. Not to mention how the models in zzz still look the same as in genshin, they keep reusing the same skeletons, refuse to make new ones, every face looks the same, the hair still looks like play doh, etc.
>>1823426HSR was a shipbait paradise from day one. So I doubt chinks cared enough.
>>1823463the ps4 came out 12 years ago, you know?
>>1823440That's silly. You have to be a special kind of retarded to bully your proven music guy out of your game. Good music forgives a lot of flaws and bad music destroys a good game. But okay maybe they're amateur retards--no it's genshin impact one of top gachas in the world doing that shit. Okay cool. lol
>>1823440Why is it always the music people I hear about getting shafted? Doom, Subnautica, Genshin, etc.
>>1823649>so music man i noticed you didnt fill in your pronouns>im good bro dont worry about it>OMG BECKY MUSIC MAN IS A FACIST NAZI AND MISGENDERED ME WE NEED HIM GONE NOWand other cool things that happen on the regular in 2025
Genshin music all sounds the same. I wouldn't have noticed that Genshin changed composters if retards on the internet cry about it
>>1823669Nope, credits where it's due. Their music used to be popular even outside Genshin circles but nowadays they're barely making impact even inside the fandom.
The only ost I ever noticed was the one that plays around big tree in Mondstadt
>>1823706>they're barely making impact
>>1823669Sour grapes.
>>1823420I don't speak ching chong nor knows wtf are those chink on the pic, chang.
Hoyo is so desperate that they are already trying to bait people before the character has even appeared in the story and interacted with the MCs.
>>1823846kek. They want the ML market so bad
>>1823846>their
chaos zero nightmare status?
>>1823846isn't zzz a flop?
>>1823875>from the makers of Epic Seven (read the previous posts in this thread for what they did in that game)>low gacha rates and Genshin like dupes (see the dedicated /vmg/ thread)Dont even bother.
>>1823875Easy skip >>1820246>>1820262>>1820306>>1820370>>1820493
>>1823875will be good (for generating sufferingpornkino and nothing else)
>>1823875hard skip for ML gods
>>1823875Ebinchad here, totally would.
>>1823898More lile Epickek.
>>1823898Epic Shit
>>1823875>kekold paradiseperfect side gacha for honkai players
>>1823846janexseth did irreparable damage to zzz reputation.funniest part? both are the biggest filler characters in the game.
>>1823915i can imagine the absolute meltdown if they make the idols shipshit
>>1823875Quintessential limbpipus-core
>>1823915ackshually it's been downhill since cbt censorships...
>>1823875it panders to both het and yaoi lovers no yuri though so that should make a lot of people here happy
>>1823456He never admitted it himself, but someone close to him revealed that he was let go from the Genshin music team due to disdain from someone that has connection with mhy's top management.Considering that many talented individuals have left mhy for other companies recently, even Cai himself made his own company instead of staying with mhy for his next project, the rumor doesn't seem baseless at all.I hope YPC would collaborate with Ananta music team, since he's already working on two NetEase titles.
>>1823752it just means you are too low IQ to even comprehend a simple family treealso learn english properly first you fucking ape
>>1823915was about to install the game when i saw jane's ass all over my feedbut then upon seeing on youtube several janexseth shipshit videos and how blatant the shipshit was, i ended up dropping genshin as a result despite playing since 1.1never trusting hoyo again
>>1823915>janexsethThe even funnier part is that Jane and Seth probably only interact for 5 minutes in total throughout the entire game, and after this patch, Jane never interacted with Seth again.After that, Jane always appears alone and only interacts with MCs in the later patches.
>>1823958and you can still feel the consequencesthat's how obvious the shipshit was
>>1823958>no you don't get it,she was only shipshit for one patch, come home straight manEven if ignore the shipbait(which is impossible at this point unless mihomo re introduces her and ups the pandering to eleven), she still shows preferential treatment to FeMC and flirts with a woman making her yurishit.
>>1820698If you play ML gacha with a female option for the protag, you're just a cuck simple as since all the girls are gay. There is no getting around this.Though you could argue they make rover transition before sex because they prefer taking the D, this also makes him turn into a sissy girl when the male characters fuck himIt's the same problem with rune factory 5+ where every character of both genders wants to fuck you.More importantly rather than the female wives being schrodinger's bisexual, the men are never bros and want to fuck you in the ass. Same goes for Wuwa.
>>1820649yurifags are cucks who like to watch sex when it doesn't involve them at all, as long as there is no way for them to ever have sex they'll get turned onOnly yuritroons want to have sex with girls as a girl, aka the ones who like yuri MLThe non-troon yurifags are in the cuck camp and love shipping exclusively because they hate themselves for not being a woman (and aren't American enough to troon out)
>>1823988>she still shows preferential treatment to FeMCafter a whole year, I never saw a pic proving that, compared to caesar, astra and vivian having special treatment to the male avatar
>>1823988Its sad how pathetic hoyo attempts at pandering are, but its even sadder seeing some retards falling for it. Like, take a look at /zzz/, even ignoring the scatposter the "people" there will willingly ignore everything that doesn't fit their "zzz is an ML game!" narrative (same as BA and nikke players, actually).
>>1824002Can you post all these "when the male characters fuck him" bits? I'm curious. Bonus if they are from this year.
>total nihaha victoryi hope you niggas ain't using the same password everywhere
>>1823846The best part is that the male MC reaction to this character pursing him is... running away. How is this game even more of a cuckfest than BA?
>>1824024fuck I dropped ba long ago dont make me login again
>>1824027no clue how long the maintenance will last. would be real fucking funny if he got all the account infos
ZZZ is ML
Another Eden is ML
>hoyokek humiliation>sudden reply to a post from 3 days ago about how wuwa has a femcbut there is no samefagged reply chain so you know it's just snowbro300 obsessing over wuwa yaoi and not the resident tranny
>>1824055Only on this general you would see postd like this. This is a mental ward.
I like that this general has buckbroken the yuricucks.
>training princess event>its actually shipping festevery time
>>1824074>playing Limbus>expecting MLAre you retarded?
>>1824075is it worse than arknights?
>>1824075i am not expecting anything at this point anymore, they showed off buncha men assigned to "train" the girl right off the bat
>>1824076Yes, Doctor is an absolute haremgod and total machochad when you put him next to Donteh. Anyone from any mixed loo is, really, when you compare, even brown cuck's cameraman. Just this update man actually got yamcha'd
>>1824076Yes>>1824078>at this point anymoreIt's 1.5 years old
>>1824080They been doing this for a while now
>>1824074didn't these two also have a moment in ishmael's canto
>>1824081Previous games are not gachas
>>1824076You can judge game dev teams decently well based on how they treat their protags. How they treated the Lobotomy Corp protag in comparison to others should tell you enough when it comes to a gacha game ML direction and that is that it's never going to go in any kind of ML direction at all.
>>1824020>>1824026Why do you want to be cucked so much, MLbros
>>1824086Worst of all is that they arent even done with him yet.
>>1824088Right, we are cucked for refusing old, busted, loose and used up goods
>>1824092projecting and gaslighting is all these people do
>>1824074>>1824078>Playing a 50/50 gender ratio game, perfect for shipping purposes>Wonder why there's ship fuel everywhere?????>>1824083Yes, he literally rescues her from getting turned into a monster ALONE (the entire cast was present and did nothing)
>>1824055snowbro300 is the resident tranny falseflagging
Huge gamefile size won't do Hoyoshit a favor in the long run. Genshin the most optimized at 41 GB at 5 years age, HSR at 32 GB at 2 years age, ZZZ the least optimized at 34 GB at 1 year age.
>>1823952>changs calling others apeLMAO>simpleIf it's in English>learn english properlyNo u lern to capitalize first
>>1824074those 2 literally fuck
>>1824024erm context?
>>1824179blue archive got "hacked" (a script kiddy just replaced some assets with koyuki) and we dont know if they have/had access to account data
>>1824175Dante wished for this btw
>>1824182So basically i'm safe if i haven't updated my apk?
wuwo-ACK
>>1824207Devs are pretty based
>>1824207>>1824222Good. Maybe instead of wasting AI doing stupid shit I've seen other devs try with it they'll actually put it to use on minor busywork.
>>1824074>>1824075Limbabs always told me their game was overrun by shipfaggot but that otherwise nothing concreted existed, so what is their cope exactly?
>>1824207SAAAAA*ARR
>>1824229>it didnt happen>ok its happened but its actually a good thing>it happened but not to my waifu, she is still pure so idcOr something like that.Limbus fanbase is pretty bizzare in this regard. Its like there was some sort of public anouncement they going along with as part of joke that i am not aware of. Buncha detahed, ironical and chill guys not caring about anything or anyone that will call you schizo if you do.
why do MLturds pretend that they aren't just as if not more pathetic than shipfags
>>1824255For the same reason shipkeks pretend they aren't just as if not more pathetic than MLtards
Gameplay enjoyers be chillan
>>1824224That's the dream but you know it won't be like that.
>>1824244They aren't bizarre at all, that's every fanbase. Look at how hard BA players try to convince other that their game is ML. Or GLF2, or nikke, or even fucking brown dust 2 players. All cucks, but you call them out and they scramble to find this or that argument, but they can't argue against evidence.
>>1824229Every Dante self-inserter either doesn't play the game or is a masochist. They all left after the Nfaust incident.
>>1824274>>1817126
I'm curious now. Do you guys even play any current gacha?
>>1824291Still have some installed but i stopped doing dailies and stuff.
>>1824274>>1824088
>>1824291I properly play 6.
>>1824293>>1824092
Saw the NIKKE bunnies. What's up with that? When are they gonna add a massage system like in Horizon Walker or Brown Dust 2?Stellar Blade 2 should also have that.
>>1824321No, they gonna do this.
I try ToF again after dropping it since launch and holy kek. Check out this 1.0 dps weapon and the newest healer weapon.
>>1824321Nah it's just the annual let's make lewd bunny alts so the slurpers will say we're based again and forget all of their complaints for the previous months.
>>1824324kek
>>1824207>combat based game>uses ai animation
>>1824340Nothing wrong with that if the end result will be good
>>1824329That's pretty much every game tho, as they tend to be simple early on and get more complex as time goes by. Back when I played League for example, Garen's passive was a single line while Jhin's was a whole book.
this r-12 rating game btwthis is what happen when games have competitionso stop doomposting other games and support it https://www.reddit.com/r/NikkeMobile/comments/1n5b8p8/rouge_bunny_first_look/
>>1824349easy to tell much cuckoldry will come out of this outfit
>>1824344I ain't making an account.
>>1824349I can see the long coat an I already know how much it will be used to cover her up. kek
>>1824349Bro they turned the summer patch into a cuckfest. I'll have to wait and see if they'll do the same here first...
One interesting metric I don't see mentioned enough is the fanbase in a vacuum. For instance, even when there's very little interaction (or none at all in some cases) between two characters in a mihoyo game, characters will receive tons of ship art, Nikke has an unusual amount of NTR art, etc. It's arguably more important for the games outward perception at large to attract fans, and if their fans come off as weird shippers, NTRfags or some other weird shit it damages the brands attractive power. It's also very difficult for the brand itself to shake those sorts of people after they've already taken root.
>>1824349I'm willing to bet that some girls will tell SKK to touch them and other shit this time too and SKK will go full "N-no this isn't the time" to them again. kek
>>1824166>ape with a phone lmfao
>>1824349Oh nonono
>>1824207hoyoverse already did it first
>>1824349this will be another disaster
>https://www.reddit.com/r/gachagaming/comments/1n4knbt/kaiju_no8_the_game_reach_1st_place_on_mobile_top/Tribe Nine's death was worth it after all bros.
>>1824324Top tier manipulation coming from Da Wei
>>1824374built for me
>>1824397Kek where the fuck is this from?
>>1824349>korean porn addict brainrot is now seeping into gachasgrim
I hate unreal engine
MHY won bigly
>>1824429Loyal!
zzz won
>>1824452Nice. I'll ship her with that dog furry dude.
>>1824434>Male leak had more views than official female PVLMAO
>>1824452i think zzz need a canon futa character
>>1824452>zzz is taking fontaine's melushart leftoverswaterkuma leaving was a mistake
>>1824373>he need to push shift manuallyngmi
>>1824263>gameplay>deploy this super broken unit and watch it murder the boss and perfectly clear the stage solo fully afk
>>1824460>genshin invented little furries
>>1824452>Deploying more furriesAre they just giving up? Do they want to fail or what?
>>1824008Just search her main quest, it's right at the end where she goes to hire a videotape.
>>1824476Bro furries are based. Cat girls, rabbit girls and all that shit sell well.
>>1824460Watercuckma is no one's loss.
>>1824476If anything furries are a sign Mihoyo is doing well
>>1824474>literal recycled melusines>nooo!! they are unique and original furry designs!!!stop enabling migoyo, they are creatively bankrupt
>>1824504MLosers will seethe at this picture.
>>1824504I hate mhy but you're just retarded.
>>1824462Post examples
>>1824329because the long term investment in ToF is not the weapons (gacha), but your gears (the MMO) part. You're expected to change to new weapons frequently. That's why ToF disappointed both gacha crowds and MMO guys, the gacha don't want their rolls to be invalidated, while for the MMO, the weapons are just another forced payment for them because of they're not grindable.
>>1824597(cont.) and I think the only crowds who are content with ToF model is the skin buying fags, they can use any skin they want, even old characters, without fearing about power-creeping like the other games.This is the aspect I think worth keeping if they do another ToF 2.0 (warped server is the sign they want to test new ideas for ToF 2.0). NtE on the other hand is your run of the mill gacha, so I don't have much expectation for it aside from playable.
guilongchao just eos
Good
August 2025 revenue.
Even if the majority of Snowbreak's revenue comes from PC, even if you multiply this by 400%, it still won't break top 20.
>>18246261+1+1=<1Also, where's the hell honkai impact?
>>1824630No.63
>>1824627>400%loltry 2000% iOS revenue
>>1824642According to the devs themselves Snowbreak's PC revenue accounts for 70%. Mobile 30%.
>>1824626>another meme chart
>>1824626Unstoppable.
>>1824627>the quarterly reports are wrooonngg!!!! (offense punishable with a prison sentence)>i only trust the reddit revenoooooooo charts!!!! (made by troons with an agenda)do you know how i know you're trans?
>>1824626The king is back, baby, ML back on top
>>1824649Yeah bro did you look at the survey results in that image? It's 73% PC, 18% Android and 4% IOS...
>>1824655We already did a breakdown of the quarter reports and it was consistent with the meme chart even accounting deviation, cope harder kek
>>1824663>>1816043 >>1816064 >>1816070???
>>1824666retard
>>1824658That figure is combined Android and iOS