Think about is rationally.
>>55781965Arceus solos them.
>>55781965That’s a lot of lions…
>>55781965I don't know man that's a lot of lions
>>55781969idk, arceus only has 1000 arms. vs 1 billion lions? sheesh.
Lions win easilyPokefags are still coping about it too, pathetic>Erm erm my Pokédex entriesSo many of them do not accurately represent how the Pokémon functions in game, Pokédex entries are written by DEIs who can’t even change the batteries in their smoke alarms>They can’t hit ghosterionos!Bite>NO THATS ONLY DARK-TYPE WHEN A POKÉMON USES IT, IF A LION USES BITE ITS FUCKING NORMAL-TYPEHoly copium, how many funko pops do you own?
>>55781993Assuming it only takes 5 secconds to snap a lion's neck using two arms. Arceus will solo all billion lions in 116 days if Arceus snaps necks the whole duration nonstop.
>>55781965>Lapras used perish song!
Can lions move in the stopped time?
>>55782013>>55781965Rayquaza use dragon beam from the sky (the lions can't reach him)
>>55781965>>55781969Jigglypuff embarrasses all of them.
>>55782073it's a lot of lions though...
>>55781965"Butterfree used Poison Powder"
>>55782013Funbro stalls them all of them to death.
>>55781965Lions can't kill slugma because it's made of lava
>>55781965Lions win by in-game logic (aka canon logic)Lions lose by anime logic (aka fanfic logic)
>>55782111>>55782155Evading the Lions won’t work, when a Pokémon runs out of PP it developed gender dysphoria and fucking kills itself.>>55782092Perish Song doesn’t effect all Pokémon in a rotation battle, nor does it affect nearby Pokemon not engaged in the battle (it also doesn’t affect non-Pokemon as trainers are unaffected but we pretend Lions would be affected.) So at most Lapras kills 3 Lions and also itself and two other mons.
>>55782013The lions literally don’t need to do anything. The Pokemon in the most ideal scenario would use Struggle before putting a dent into the Lion numbers.
>>55781965In a row?
>>55781965what moves do the lions know? Yes this is important
>>55781965can't they just toxic all the lions?
>>55782447BiteScratchRoarBeat UpLions work in packs
>>55782256>runs out of PPSo you don't know how a stallbro works?
>>55782270Earthquake hits and OHKO's all Lions.
>>55782544Earthquake can hit a maxinum of 5 pokemonIt doesn't have enough PP to even kill 10,000 lions
>>55782562>Earthquake can hit a maxinum of 5 pokemonIt hits all pokemons it is battling with, and it is currently battling 1 billion lions.Swarm battles proves that there can be multiple pokemon against one. It's just a swarm of 1 billion lions.
>>55782575>and it is currently battling 1 billion lions.Show me one format where you can battle 1 billion Pokemon you dumbass niggerThe maxinum is 5 Pokemon at once meaning it's 1 pokemon against 5 lionsThere's not enough PP to kill them all
>>55782579>Show me one format where you can battle 1 billion Pokemon you dumbass niggerSwarm. There is nowhere saying that the swarm can't be 1 billion.There if proof saying that multiple pokemon can fight against a single pokemon.There is no proof that the limit is 5.Unless you can provide proof that there can't be more than 5, 1 pokemon with earthquake kills all the lions. It could 1 trilion lions or even 1 billion of billion of lions and it wouldn't make a difference.
>>55782013>So many of them do not accurately represent how the Pokémon functions in gameAccording to what?
>>55782579If you wanna adhere strictly to how the game works, then the pokemon wins. Since lions doesn't exist in the game, it wouldn't load in the cartridge, and the pokemons would win by W.O.
>>55782608>Since lions doesn't exist in the gamePyroar is literally a lion you retard
>>55782614Pyroar is a lion pokemon, not a lion.
>>55782614>Pyroar>with beat up
>>55782543Well thanks for explaining nothing you lazy bitch, but if this is something that involves switching in and out Pokémon, they can’t do that because that involves human interference, which is not allowed.
>>55782600Earthquake can't even hurt the trainers 2cm away, it isn't doing shit to ANY of the lions.
>>55782608The lion simply eats the cartridge with all the pokemon on it.
>>55782619Pyroar is the Royal Pokemon, not the Lion Pokemon.>>55782630It doesn't, it just involves Slowbro having a certain move-set, ability, and held item. If the lions have a moveset including Bite specifically because you're a bitch about Ghost types, then Funbro is allowed to have a legal set of moves. Furthermore, if you really want to get into game mechanics, the in-game timer should mean that there are too many lions for them to be able to take their turn, and some Pokemon are absolutely faster than lions, meaning that the chip damage the few lions that could possibly move wouldn't outweigh the damage the fast Pokemon did to them first. The only way it would work in the lion's favor is if they could have a priority move, and even then there's enough Pokemon with priority moves to take up enough time that they'd win out.
>>55782630Kek, that isn't how stallbro works.
>>55781965I've always wondered how big of an arena would you need to have this battle. Like, would all of the land on Earth even be enough for a billion lions and 1000+ pokemon?
>>55782637Because the trainers aren't participating in the battle, that's the game logic.But the lions are part of the battle, which means they will all be hit, regardless of apparent distance between them. The 1 billion lions could be spread throughout the galaxy and it wouldn't matter, since they would all be in this battle.
>>55782646Switch cartridges have a chemical to make it taste bad, the lions wouldn't be able to eat it.Nintendo is a hundred steps ahead of you.
>>55782670All 6 pokemon I bring in a battle count as participating, they even get EXP for it. So why doesn't earthquake hit the other 5 in their pokeballs?
>>55782658>certain ability move and held itemWhich is what exactly? Searching stallbro gives me zero results, I am operating solely on dude trust me energy right now. Held item is cheating if that Pokémon does not have it naturally in the wild btw, because that implies human interference.
>>55782670Earthquake doesn’t hit all Pokémon in a rotation battle.
>>55782715But it does hit everyone on a horde battle.
Wild animals are scared shitless of fire, fire pokémon WILL solo any number of kitties, because lions won't stand up to fire spat at their faces, you droll retard.
>>55782706Why didn't you search "Funbro"? It was infamous and the smogon cucks bannes it because it would cause infinite battles.It has a leppa berry and recycle as a move so it never runs out of PP, shell armor so it can't be critted.
>>55782674my semen tastes bad, but ur mum still swallows it
>>55782736Yeah I don’t think this gonna work out against 1 billion Lions, seems like Funbro is still killable. Does Funbro have the HP to survive many many many Lion attacks at once? It surely does not.
>>55782777Slack Off heals him, Slowbro can essentially 1v1 the billion lions without running out of PP or HP.
>>55781965Didn't Kyogre create the fucking sea
>>55782013How they defeat a pile of toxic waste or lava
>>55782515Ok I think I have an idea on how I can win. Note that I'm using the Showdown national dex teambuilder and going in a triple battle so it's fanficcy as fuck but if you accept those rules, it's possible...Left slot: Mew with Life Dew, Imprison, Beat Up, Roar. Turn one you use Imprison and half of the lions moveset is locked off forever. Imprison is an interesting move in that it affects all enemies in a triple battle and never expires until the user faints. we might have to tank a couple of bites but Mew should be tanky enough to handle it. After that we just spam Life Dew forever. If we use leftovers Mew should be unkillable.Middle Slot we have Alolan Muk with Recycle, Fling, Imprison, Bite. First turn we Imprison and now the lions can't use Bite either, so all they can do from now on is use Scratch. Fling leppa berry forces PP recovery, and it's only a 10 BP move so we shouldn't self-damage too much. Recycle + Fling heals 5 PP per turn if done optimally, and we'll be using 3 PP per turn so we should be able to sustain enough to last forever.Right slot I'm going to use Mega Salamence but really anything fast with Tailwind and a killing move is fine. Tailwind, Hyper Voice, Air Slash, you don't even need a fourth move really. Turn one Tailwind lets Mew outspeed the lions to Imprison the Beat Up and Roar. Now all you need to do is use Hyper Voice for 500 million turns and you win the challenge! (slightly less for the distant lion which will struggle to death every so often)
>>55781965Maractus Solos 1 v 1000000000Spiky Shield stops all incoming lion attacks every turn and deals 1/8 of each lion's max hp worth of damage to it. Spikey Shield has 10/16 pp, meaning that she could theoretically kill every lion twice.
>>55782013Good that means the Lions rape Delcatty
realistically it would only be 200-300 pokemon vs 1bil lions when you cut down on all the shit jobbermons and prevos who would immediately die like caterpie, oddish etc
>>55782256>it developed gender dysphoria and fucking kills itself
>*is imume to all lion attacks*what now nature-chuds?
>>55783516Bite, we’ve been through thisIt also runs out of pp and dies to struggle even if that weren’t the case
>>55781965>975,610 lions to each pokemon>some pokemon can take that number but many can't, some can't even take oneLions have this.
>>55781965there are some individual pokémon that could easily handle all of the lions on their own. like guzzlord
>>55783543You don't understand what a billion is.
>>55781965I mean, that is a lot of lions.
Kyogre floods AfricaThe end
>>55783549guzzlord doesnt care how many a billion is it could eat lions for a thousand years
>>55783577So no, you don't. Got it.
>>55783577It would take 60,000 years even if each lion only took a half hour, not a thousand. A billion is so fucning many. Guzzlerord would die of old age before it could eat them all, even if it could survive the other hundreds of millions attacking it while it tried.
>>55783577Guzzlord wouldn't even be able to eat them faster than they could reproduce
>>55782544>>55782600>>55782715>>55782726>>55782562>>55782575Doesn't matter. Earthquakes don't bother lions at all. Might make them stumble a little bit perhaps. But it'll take out exactly zero lions even if it hits every single one.
>>55783586>even if each lion only took half an houron what planet would it even take more than a couple seconds? into the literal hell dimension void and then onto the nexy one. guzzlord would eat the fuck out of all the lions easily
>>55783610Even at 18ft tall Guzzlord isn't big enough to just swallow them hole. It has to fight each one, subdue or kill it, and then dismember or chew it to get it small enough to eat. It has to do all this while being attacked by a billion lions. A half an hour is generous.
>>55783616>Even at 18ft tall Guzzlord isn't big enough to just swallow them holeyou're really underestimating how big 18 ft is, and how small a lion is. Even a full grown male is like 4 ft tall. Guzzlord's mouth is at least 3 times that height.
>>55782256how do trannies live this rent free in your head. meds. now.
>>55783646yeah well I think you're underestimating how many a fucking billion is, that's a lot of lions dude
>>557836464ft to the shoulder sure, taller to the head but that's not the point. The point is they're ten feet fucking long. And there's a BILLION of them.
>>55783727and guzzlord has claws big enough to pick them up and stuff them into an infinite void in a matter of seconds, they literally don't stand a chance
>>55783767No, it doesn't. As I already explained. And even if it could do it in 3 seconds each consistently with no pause, that's still close to 100 years. Which it would have to do without dying trying. It can't do it.
>>55781965Pokemon have superpowers, lions don'tThe answer has always been Pokemon and anyone who says otherwise is baiting
>>55783811Out of the 1025 pokemon, how many do you think could take even ONE lion? I don't see Finneon doing much work, or Oddish, or many others. The fact is, the ones can can do something would have to take on literally millions each. Even if you split it up evenly that's nearly a million each, and you can't split it up evenly.
>>55783727Length doesn't matter - once it's in they're voided. One cm of lion inside the mouth = the whole lion exterminated.
>>55781965Rationally one million lions would be busy killing each other than fighting Pokémon.
>>55781965Pokemon, none of those lions are Bert Lahr whose the only one who can handle them.
>>55781965You don't even need strong mons, even a couple of Gravelers with magnitude and earthquake would make quick work of these overrated shitnimals
>>55783821>FinneonSurf and Blizzard>OddishSleep Powder and Toxic
>>55782111Rayquaza chills until they all starve to death
>>55783586A lion lives for like 30 years at best. Guzzlord is just taking a vacation of all you can eat lions for 30 years and then it's an automatic victory.
>>55781965the pokemonhow the fuck would the lions attack ghost or steel types?
>>55784664They can't.Lionfags (who don't play pokemon) think Bite is just the physical act of biting, in which case humans would be able to learn bite, and Strength, and Body Slam, and Karate Chop, and most physical Normal/Fighting moves.But Bite isn't just biting, it involves manifesting the energy of the Dark-Type, which lions have no ability to do.Even if you go back to the 90s when real animals and Pokemon were intended to exist within the same universe in some way, that mere distinction alone is enough to imply that "normal animals" are not "Pokemon" and can thus not use Pokemon moves.But then the argument becomes: how resilient are Pokemon's bodies against non-move-based physical damage. A lion's bite isn't Bite, but surely the act of physically chomping down on a creature with sharp teeth would be enough to do some amount of damage.
>>55782205The anime is the best logic to use for debates like this because that's more or less of how Pokemon battles would work IRL.
>>55784664Lion piss and blood corrodes steel
Here is the anime logic at work btw
>>55784933SEXO
>>55784759>autistic headcanonNot an impressive argument
>>55784933Pokéhumans are ultra durable and have massive strength. Do you think a regular 10 yo can carry 100kg on their head?
>>55785049>>autistic hea-ACK
>>55784815So mewtwo creates a storm that drowns the lions and solos them.
>>55785049>Not an impressive argu-ACK
>>55782256> Using rotation battles when horde battles exist.You're ngmi
>>55782205In-game logic Funbro solos all the lions
>>55785114So real life creatures get a massive strength boost just by being around pokemon?Sounds like it just got even easier for the lions.
>>55784759Humans taught pokemon Mega Punch by taking boxing lessons in the anime, it's literally just punching. Bite is just biting
>>55781965These kinds of questions depend a lot on the exact specifics, how you think it works and how seriously you take it.Like most people, I think the Pokémon win. Arceus and some other Pokémon could kill all the lions on their own if they wanted. But I'll take it a step further.I think not only do the Pokémon win, but also that not a single Pokémon will die. I think every Pokémon could easily beat a lion in a 1V1. If we evenly divide the lions to each Pokémon, then some will fail, because not all Pokémon can handle 975609.756098 lions. But then that's 1025 separate fights, not one single fight. In a big team fight like this, the weaker Pokémon can stay back and help using Moves like Helping Hand.Remember that Pokémon Battles are a standardized way for Pokémon to fight and don't result in death. A weak Level 1 Pokémon is hit by a strong Move from a Level 100 Legendary and simply faints, suffering no permanent injury. So Pokémon are extremely durable. Yes, in the anime we see humans surviving some attacks from Pokémon, but that's because of cartoon gag logic and the fact that humans in the Pokémon universe evolved differently from humans in real life.
>>55782614Anon forgets that being based on something is different from actually being that thing.
>>55781965First the sun and now every single pokemon, is there anything that 1 billion lions can't beat?
>>557870551 trillion lions
>>55785285nta but this is falacious, Pokemon can learn how ot better harness whatever "energy" is needed for a specific move by doing otherwise mundane actions, but that doesn't make the move itself any less fantastical. Ash's Sceptile learned how to use Bullet Seed by spitting actual seeds when it was a Treecko, but trying to say that the seeds Bullet Seed shoots at an opposing force are just normal seeds themselves would be retarded
>>55781965what billion lions lol? Earth probably doesn't even have 50,000 with have trash human beings are with nature. I might play real life postal game if tigers or lions ever go extinct.
>>55782667All the land on Earth is enough room for 7 billion humans with tons of room to spare, so 1 billion lions and 1000 Pokemon would be fine
>>55785285Even back in the Gen 1 anime, Mega Punch made the Pokemon's fist glow with the energy. And in the modern anime, it makes an energy appear on the Pokemon's fist like a Rasengan
Bump
>>55782256>trying to apply battle mechanics, poorlyWell it's actually a horde encounter so just hit all one billion of them with Explosion or some shit
>>55787177But that is how it actually was in gen 1. Grass moves were grass moves because you would hit the opponent with plant parts. There is no "energy" to this. Stuff was what it was. It was only later, around the time of the phsy/spec split, when shit like Energy Ball, Flash Cannon, Dark Pulse, Aura Sphere was introduced and turned types into natural elements rather than just a classification.
>>55781965Who would win, 1 billion Lion or one of every Digimon? Think about it rationally.
>>55781965The lions win
>>55781965>1026 Pokemon>4 moves on each>Even assuming each use of a move kills at least one lion, maybe two for multi-target moves>Each move would have at most 64 uses.>Best case scenario the pokemon kill 250k lions before struggle kicks in and they start killing themselvesEven if you ignore game mechanics people are underestimating how much a billion is.
>>55781965>one of each Spinda's variant
>>55789059>1000 pokemon>1 god>and 4 billion spindasThe lions don't have a chance.
>>55788946>Grass moves were grass moves because you would hit the opponent with plant parts. There is no "energy" to this. Stuff was what it was.https://youtu.be/bg4TnLo3VKM
Slugma just slugging around will passively kill everything cause it's hotter than the sun, right?
>>55789708Slugma should sink into the core of the planet and vaporize any human nearby, but it doesn't. Same for Lanturn not turning into a black hole whenever it lights up, real world physics simply can't apply to pokemon.
>>55789067>4 billion spindasimagine the sex
>>55782013How do they damage Fug if he never has to land?
>>55790964Lion Ladder
>>55788822
>>55781965how are they going to kill chi-yu it is an inanimate object surrounded by fireor magcargo which is just made of lava
>>55783557for you
>>55781965I didn't read the whole thread, but what about Pokemon that can literally fly above lions and bomb them from the sky? They'd probably end up exhausted after a point, though.
>>55782073if the lions stand perfectly still. have you ever seen a lion? they'll bite his head off in a few minutes at most, while he's busy trying to kill a few of them with his noodle arms.
>>55781965The lions win because they just eat the game cartridges
>>55783667Why does it bother you when people make jokes at their expense? Do you feel targetted?
>>55790985Rayquaza is in SPACE the lion ladderers would DIE because there's no oxygen there.
>>55795968Lion Space Suit
>>55784009Run out of pp.
>>55795979In gen 9 when you start a Wild Battle with a Wild Pokémon, Run and then start another battle with the same Pokémon again we see that it is completely healed.So the Pokémon can just leave for a bit and come back to completely heal their HP, PP for all Moves, Stat Stages, Status and so on.
>>55796044This is like unironically arguing that Kratos is below wall level because he struggles to open treasure chests in-game.
>>55789015Pokémon low diff the lions. Xerneas and Yveltal can steal the lifeforce from the lions and make the Pokémon immortal.
>>55796090Pokémon fully heal after a short rest, you take a nap and your pokémon are fully healed. The Pokémon can rotate fighting the lions and absolutely stomp them.
>>55782205What about manga logic?
>>55796099There are a billion lions and only ~1000 pokemon, there won't be any rests or rotating.
>>55796104Rayquaza can sleep in the sky, Rayray alone solos the lions.
>>55781965HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO REMIND YOU THAT SPREAD MOVES HAVE THE SAME PER-TARGET POWER WHETHER THEY'RE FACING 2, 3, 5, OR MORE OPPONENTS
>>55796138> N-Nooo but muh rotation battlesHorde battles peove the pokémon win.
>>55796239If we're taking game mechanics as gospel then horde battles cap at 5 opponents, every pokemon is going to run out of PP and kill itself using struggle before they make a dent
>game mechanicsLions win, not enough PP>anime mechanicsPokémon win through stalling (digging or flying Pokémon)>pokedex descriptionsPokémon easily obliterate the lions
>But PPLions do not run on infinite energy either. Vast majority starve and die before they ever engage a Pokemon.
>>55797258Even if every Pokemon had 4 moves with 64 PP that killed 5 lions every time, that's only 1.3 million lions killed.The lions can cannibalize over 998 million of themselves and still win.
>>55783976True, the lions don't have the COURAGE to go up against every Pokemon.
>>55797285You could argue that millions upon millions of Lions who are so far away from the battle that they can’t even see it would just go about their daily lifes before they are can even see the battle they are in.It’s like how not every soldier in a war is in active combat.
>>55781965One Solgaleo = One Trillion Lions.
To anyone saying a billion is a big number. Here's the thing. It does not matter. It does not matter how many lions there are. This is one of EVERY Pokémon. There's Arceus, who could end the fight in an instant, and various other Legendary/Mythical and other powerful Pokémon who can kill all or many lions all on their own. With every Pokémon, we also have access to lots of different Moves too, allowing for a great deal of versatility and strategy. Notably with Status Moves. Lots of Pokémon can fly. Pokémon can just heal themselves.All increasing the number of lions changes is how much more longer it takes for the Pokémon to win and, with some Pokémon like Arceus, not even that.>>55790985Anyone who genuinely thinks this can't be taken seriously. I'm sure most people who say this are obviously joking. But for obvious reasons, a lion ladder is not happening.
One T.Rex could kill all 1025 Pokemon
Black hole gg
>>55797285Pokémon recover all their HP and PP after a short nap. PP isn't an issue.
>>55796280> Lions win, not enough PPA short nap recovers PP fully, not to mention leppa berry recycle and harvest shenanigans. Pokémon win.
>>55799707they won't get an opportunity to nap
>>55796253> muh PPA short nap fully heals and recovers PP
>>55799716> they won't get an opportunity to napWhy not? What are the lions going to do to stop them from napping?> Rayquaza comes down and hyper beams/dragon ascents and draco meteors thousands of lions until it runs out of PP> Goes back to the ozone layer and naps for a bit> Rinse and repeat until fug solos all the lions. > inb4 but muh lion ladderRetard
>short napThere's nowhere 99% of them can rest, there's 1 billion lions, there'll be lions all around them all the way up to the horizon.I do think Lions lose, but it's only because there's a few broken pokemon. 99% of pokemon will die in the battle.
Are we talking wild Pokemon? Without trainers Pokemon are fucked, imagine how many PP they would waste doing stupid shit like Recover at full health or Poison against an already Status'd lion or a million other examples
>>55799738Lions get filtered by trees they can't bully leopards once they climb a tree. Any pokémon that can climb, dig or fly will be able to rest.
Shit like HP and PP are just video game abstractions that both represent the same thing; stamina. Using moves and taking damage tires them out, but if another Pokemon heals them, their "HP" and "PP" are both restored
>>55799749lionesses can climb trees
>>55799749Lion Ladder is a meme but I genuinely think with a billion lions they could swarm the tree and pile high enough to climb into it considering how fucking many there are.Flying takes energy for most pokemon, Rayquaza is unique in that it just exists up in the stratosphere and never has to land.Digging underground is the only method that could work, assuming the tunnel doesn't collapse around them under the weight of all the lions and pokemon and suffocate them while they sleep, hell even if the entrance is all that's sealed they'd run out of oxygen pretty quick and die that way.
>>55799716Giratina can transport injured pokémon to the distortion world to rest.
>>55799733You don't even need Rayquaza, using this strategy, even the likes of Tynamo and Chingling can solo every lion by levitating to a point where the lions cannot reach them and raining down psychics and charge beams. If you say levitate can't do the same thing, the lions still get mollywopped by Minior and Drifloon.
>>55799790Giratina does not learn Teleport
>>55799784> hell even if the entrance is all that's sealed they'd run out of oxygen pretty quick and die that way.Pokémon don't really need to breathe though, you can fight deoxys in space for an indefinite amount of time and you don't suffer any penalty, not to mention:> Giratina Kamuing injured mons to the distortion world to rest> Palkia making a pocket dimension> Hoopa outright portaling lions into the sun or the bottom of the oceanAnd most pokémon can be asleep while flying see sky battles.Pokémon win very easily.
>>55799795Doesn't need tohttps://youtu.be/b1TNUPLXLqA
>>55799803>you can fight deoxys in space for an indefinite amount of time and you don't suffer any penalty>most pokémon can be asleep while flying see sky battles.Game mechanics, if we go that method lions win easily as all pokemon struggle themselves to death.> Giratina Kamuing injured mons to the distortion world to rest> Palkia making a pocket dimensionDepends how much energy that takes and whether they can stop lions from just following the injured pokemon through the portal before it closes.I'll give you Hoopa though, works for as long as Hoopa has the stamina.
>>55799820> Game mechanics, if we go that method lions win easily as all pokemon struggle themselves to death.Nope, already addressed by> short nap> leppa berry + harvest/recycle recycle+bestowAlso Hoopa can probably kill the lions the same way goblin slayer killed that huge guyhttps://youtu.be/nhPlj5n-Mlk
>>55781965As the powercreep increases this gets easier and easier for the pokémon.This gen we have:> Pecharunt who can take control of an indeterminate number of lions> Terapagos to help everyone terastslyze into whatever is betterLast gen:> Eternatus has essentially infinite energy
>>55799845>> Pecharunt who can take control of an indeterminate number of lionsonly if they eat the mochi> Terapagos to help everyone terastslyze into whatever is betterNot without a tera orb> Eternatus has essentially infinite energystill runs out of PP
>>55799838> Short napalready debunked> leppa berry + harvest/recycle recycle+bestowRecycle/Bestow run out of PP, Harvest is a hidden ability so it'd be rare, plus only 4 pokemon lines even have it and none of them are especially strong.
>>55799849> only if they eat the mochiIt can throw it directly into their mouths as seen in SV> Not without a tera orbFalse. Where's the tera orb that wild tera pokémon use?> still runs out of PPAnd can just rest for a while to recoverNot to mention that toxic spikes can be used to toxic an indefinite amount of lions
>>55799867>directly into their mouths Have fun doing that against one billion lions all over the place, and we already know he doesn't have the greatest accuracy >wild tera pokémon Locked to certain regions or through artificial means. You don't get to tera in Africa. >rest for a whileRest has 5PP >toxic spikes Only takes effect when a Pokemon enters the field of battle. If the lions are already there it doesn't do shit
I just need 20 good charizards.
>>55799642>All increasing the number of lions changes is how much more longer it takes for the Pokémon to winLions only live for about 12 years, and increasing the number of lions doesn't change that. There are Pokémon like Kyogre who can just sleep at the bottom of the ocean for a century and wake up when all the lions have crumbled to dust.
>>55800064The lions will make more lions in the meantime
>>55800064Yes. I agree with you. That's why I followed up the part of my post that you quoted with:> and, with some Pokémon like Arceus, not even that.>>55800089Pokémon can do that too. In fact they can do it much faster and more easily than the lions can.
>>55800089One billion lions is not a sustainable ecosystem, the lions will be forced to resort to cannibalism and then die of prion diseases.This isn't an issue for the Pokémon though, because there are many species with nature-healing powers who can restore the world after the lions are dead.
>>55799865> Recycle/Bestow run out of PPFalse, that's why Funbro was banned> Short rest debunkedFalse.>>55799891> Have fun aimingIt can use the enthralled lions to hold the other lions down> Locked to certain regionsTerapagos literally grants that power retard and Eternatus can grant dynamax/gigantamax.> Rest has 5 PPFunny how you can rest all you want on the beds and get fully healed and restore your PP.
>singles, rotationlions get stalled by funbro, pokemon win>"double" battle rules where everything can attack anything in battlelions win>"triple" battle rules where everything can only attack targets adjacent to themlions vastly outnumber the pokemon and most of them have no enemy targets, meaning the vast majority of them become forced to attack each other to pass turns, pokemon win>lions and pokemon each count as a "single" entityDitto transforms into 1 billion lions, pokemon win
>b-but muh legendar-ACK
>>55800243>use 2/3 enthralled lions to hold one lion down >meanwhile get mauled by 999,999,997 lionsSolid strategy >Terapagos literally grants that powerIt's the source of Terastalization but nowhere is it shown forcing other Pokemon to terastalize, that's from the Area Zero crystals which formed over millions of years back when the species wasn't nearly extinct >dynamax/gigantamaxLasts three turns>rest all you wantYou don't get to "rest all you want" with lions all around you
>Sand Stream>Toxic Spikes
>>55783529>Every Pokémon must fight the exact same number of lions!No. Then that's 1025 separate fights. Not one big fight.>>55783821Every single Pokémon can easily kill a lion in a 1v1. Pokémon are smarter and far more powerful than real-life animals.>>55783966This. They'd also likely be terrified of all the crazy superpowers Pokémon can use and try to run away. Whereas Wild Pokémon are more willing to work together. With the exceptions of Heatmor with Durant and Zangoose with Seviper.>>55789048>killPokémon Battles are a standardized way for Pokémon to fight. They don't result in death, just Fainting, which simply means they can't battle but can still do other stuff. So, in an actual fight to the death like this, they can fight in a way they normally wouldn't. This is most shown with Legendary/Mythical Pokémon, who often hold back their true power.>>55799738The weaker Pokémon can just ignore the fight entirely or, more likely, they can help using Moves like Helping Hand. They will be protected and kept safe by the stronger Pokémon. The same for any Pokémon that needs to take a break to heal up.
>>55800622If they surround pecharunt they become easier to enthrall.This will end with all the lions enslaved and killing themselves.> You don't get to "rest all you want" with lions all around youAs long as you can fly, dig or climb you can rest as much as you want.
>>55781965What are the stats of the Lions? Are they all out on the field at once?
>>55801179>Every single Pokémon can easily kill a lion in a 1v1. Pokémon are smarter and far more powerful than real-life animals.I don't disagree with you except on this part. Most first-stage bug Pokemon will get crushed.
>>55801448anyone who owns a cat knows getting them to eat their medication is a near impossible task. my moneys on the lions.
What level are the Pokemon? Do they gain experience everytime a lion dies?
>>55781965My vote goes to the slug that's hotter than the sun
Dark Void GG
>>55782013>>NO THATS ONLY DARK-TYPE WHEN A POKÉMON USES IT, IF A LION USES BITE ITS FUCKING NORMAL-TYPEAll things non-Pokémon do are typeless. When have you ever seen a human use Bite on a ghost? I rest my case.
>>55782013>brownie talking about DEIskek
>>55782013>So many of them do not accurately represent how the Pokémon functions in gameGame mechanics are just game mechanics, the Pokedex is what's "real".
>>55782013>dex entriesNah those count otherwise they aren't pokemon. People who actually believe lions would win need to ignore the dex entries or they'd lose every time.
>>55804639The games themselves ignore dex entries.
>>55804750No they don't
>>55804872I will now pet my Slugma
>>55804614>50% accuracy
>>55803798I'm guessing they're all Level 100. But them gaining EXP from the lions is an interesting idea.>>55803734Like I said, Pokémon are smarter and far more powerful than real-life animals. A weak Level 1 Pokémon is hit by a strong Move from a strong Level 100 Pokémon and simply Faints, suffering no permanent injury. Pokémon are very durable. Killing a Pokémon or even causing a serious injury to one is very difficult. As I and many others have said, Pokémon can just heal themselves by taking a short break. A Pokémon's Moves are very powerful since they're based on the Pokémon's own strength and Status Moves function the same regardless of the Pokémon's own strength. Moves such as Tackle, Yawn, Bite and so on, which are named after basic actions, are not the exact same thing as those actions. A Move used by a Pokémon is very powerful. We see humans survive Pokémon Moves, but that's only because humans in the Pokémon universe evolved differently to us, cartoon gag logic and Pokémon holding back against humans. Every Pokémon can use the Move Struggle when unable to use any other Moves.Now for some specific examples (Limited to Level up Moves only because they are Wild Pokémon.):>Wishiwashi (Solo form)Assuming it can't transform. It can use Aqua Ring for passive healing. Tearful Look and Growl to weaken the lion. Various attacking Moves including Endeavor.>SunkernAlso learns Endeavor. Has attacking Moves. Can heal itself. Sunny Day to change the weather and Solar Beam. Worry Seed to make a lion die from sleep deprivation.>Any Baby PokémonJust look up their Level Up Moves.>Early Route Bug TypesCan cause Paralysis and Poisoning. Have attacking Moves. String Shot to reduce speed.>CosmogCan fly and lead the lion into a dangerous place. Or use Struggle.>UnownCan Levitate and spam Hidden Power.>MagikarpSplash to move around. Tackle and Flail for damage.BTW, I don't consider Pokédex Entries canon.
>>55804623typeless attacks hit ghost pokemon. The lions win
>>55805636>"I don't consider the only source of info we have canon"
how are the lions arranged?like if you were to just throw a billion lions into a pile then you would have to except that millions of them would suffocate underneath each other
>>55805664I've read Pokédex Entries but they obviously can't be taken seriously. But if you consider Pokédex Entries canon than this fight is even easier for the Pokémon. The Pokémon world can't function if Pokédex Entries are canon because things quickly stop making sense.>only source of infoNo. That is wrong.
>>55805936It's the only info the game gives us. It's obviously meant to be canon, otherwise they wouldn't bother writing it
>>55805936>I need to ignore the dex entries so lions can win.>guys please let me ignore dex entries!>a gorillion lions guys!
>>55805636>Pokémon are very durable. Killing a Pokémon or even causing a serious injury to one is very difficult.This is not true. Pokemon kill each other all the time with all the predator/prey relationships that exist in the world. There's no reason to believe a lion couldn't just tear a Pidgey apart if it wanted.
>>55782013The lions can't be switched out. Just have a few Pokemon use surf and earthquake on them and call it a day.
>>55808580Surf and Earthquake would just kill more Pokemon than it would lions
>>55808586The Pokemon are in their Pokeballs, anon. One Pokemon at a time, that's the rule.
>>55808591>Pokemon are in [HEADCANON]Done.
In all forms of logic the pokemon winGame mechanic logic you just need a self-refreshing moveset to kill all of them.Game lore logic you got god pokemonAnime logic you have ghost monsThere is no world where the lions win.
Lionfags main objective is to goalpost until they stop getting replies to secure a win. This video destroys them instantly:https://youtube.com/watch?v=5XdOSMo6Svc
>>55784759Did you forget Chuck tossing that boulder?
>>55786258>Yes, in the anime we see humans surviving some attacks from PokémonIn the games too, Lance hits a random thug with Hyper Beam.
>>55808642This guy needs to get his skull stomped
>>55805582Slugma and Regice are the only two Pokémon that can not be petted at all in Pokémon Amie and Pokémon Refresh.
>>55806044They don't make sense and calling them the only source is ridiculous when you could use basically anything else in the series.>>55806197I've been arguing for the Pokémon side in this entire thread, including that post of mine you replied to.>>55808551I agree that Pokémon can kill each other, but not in the way you say. Like I said before, Pokémon Battles are a safe and standardized way for Pokémon to fight which don't result in death, only Fainting. In the wild, the Pokémon fight, hunt and eat each other like real-life animals, except, of course, more extreme. In a Pokémon Battle, a Level 1 Pokémon simply Faints from a Level 100 Pokémon. This is canon to account for the idea that in-universe, for example, someone might send out their weak Pokémon against a strong Gym Leader or something and obviously lose, but such a Battle wouldn't result in the weak Pokémon's death. Being based on something is different from actually being that thing. Pidgey is a Pidgey. So before I get a reply with something like:>A lion can't crush a Caterpie to death like a real caterpillar because... It just can't OK?!Yes, I unironically think that. I also think that Caterpie would cause a serious injury to the lion. Because a lion is a real-life animal. Not a Pokémon. An animal can't get too much stronger than it already is compared to a Pokémon, for which the difference between when it hatches to its maximum power is drastic. Also, Pokémon use some sort of energy for their Moves. That's what makes Tackle different from a literal tackle, that and the fact that Pokémon are extremely powerful. Pokémon evolved in a world where creatures can breathe fire, shoot lasers and other superpowers. A Pokémon can kill a Pokémon if it's in a fight to the death, but a real-life animal would find it extremely difficult to do so.>>55808753True. I guess what I said about humans in the anime in that post should also apply to the humans in the games too.
>>55811672Can you explain why besides "they're made of magic elemental energy (headcanon). Humans also eat Pokemon, am I supposed to believe PokeHumans are magic too? And real animals exist in the Pokemon world, so why wouldn't they be magic as well?
>>55808753Pokéhumans are viltrum or krypton tier. A random 10 yo can casually carry 100 kg on their heads.
>>55781965How is this still a discussion when flying Pokemon, UBS and Deoxys exist?
>>55781965>Most pokemon chill with other pokemon that have soundproof as their ability besides....>One heroic pokemon with prankster as it's ability that uses perish song.>All other pokemon double protect and substitute until one million lions (and the pokemon with prankster) die.
one of every pokeyman can't even beat the sun, much less a trillion lions
