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>RG comes home victorious from his time in Africa
>FormerlyAshime deals with badly explained puzzles
>Orevald takes down some annoying gauls and disparages the roman bird god
>and I get the 7th roman badge of honor

>What is this?
This is a thread where a bunch of autists come together and play shitty fangames. Join if you want.
The game is Pokemon Africanvs, another Spanish fangame. It's apparently based off the Second Punic War, but with Pokemon I guess?
So far, we haven't played a bad Spanish fangame, hopefully this doesn't break that streak.

>Download link
https://mega.nz/file/wtpUjRRD#VNTSNRtQjuasjK0V6MBTklIcRYcb2h_2SbNTIA83kaU
https://www.mediafire.com/file/61u1dzi4103rdbf/Pok%25C3%25A9mon_Africanvs_Definitive_Edition.rar/file

>Archive
https://rentry.org/vp-Plays-Thread-Archive
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this 7th gym gimmick sucked, lots of places where you can walk through walls and it just seemed random. lots of earthquake spam in this fight, 3 tries
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oh cool best 2 of 3
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one of the few times this kinda thing happens in a fangame and it doesn't feel edgy
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I successfully beat africa, now I gotta take down the rest of the cult and head to utica, wherever that is. stopping here for the night
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>>55793211
>unable to have inspiration for pokéPortugal
shit map
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the true pokemon empire
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Thanks for the new bread.
I was unable to post this in the last thread when the image limit hit.
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The trick to a lot of these timetravel sidestories seems to be going in when you have ample TMs to fix the shit movesets on the mons you're given.
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This fight seems like it'd be miserable if you don't have the flamethrower TM for sneedoking and power up punch for Tyranitar
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>>55794027
Did anyone find the object that goes in the 3rd slot? I seem to have missed it.
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Oy vey
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Some of the sidequests end on big fights.
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If it weren't for an exceptionally lucky freeze I don't know if I'd have gotten that first try. Thankfully his Hydreigon's moveset is hot garbage.
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The constant out of place starwars references are dumb, but I can get on board with Lion King.
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>>55794253
I choose not to see it as a reference. But instead a bunch of mons group pressuring the kid into jumping.
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>>55794078
I figured it out. It's a little obtuse.
Trade a spare Honedge for the Yamask to the egyptian in Rome and the Yamask is holding the item.
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You cannot finish the cult sidequest without finishing the pokemon league. I'm guessing the elite four are going to be the 4 Gods we've seen so far?
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Dickus goes to hell with his pelican.
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A surprisingly appropriate reference.
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Another fangame favorite of fighting your own team. We should toss this one on the bingo too.
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You just know x3
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>>55794449
This guy's got a statline of 90,55,95,105,120,90. Not nearly as overpowered as roman great tusk, but extremely good in his own right being both bulky enough to easily find room to set up Nasty Plot and fast enough to capitalize on it.
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The start of the pokemon league draws quite a crowd.
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The lighthouse was lame, but this is kino.
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Someone with gif capturing software will probably record it, but the way the camera pans around during the opening ceremony gives a great sense of scale rarely felt in pokemon arenas in any game.
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The colosseum is flooded for the Elite Four battles... they're not quite who I was expecting, but it's an interesting mix of typings. Ghost, Fighting, Fairy, Poison
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Total Whiteouts: 9
That's sure a 12 level spike when I was already starting to fall behind.
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Getting Fairy and Fighting down is probably the hardest part for my team.
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Make sure you have an answer to Fluttermane because you'll be seeing 2 of them in the Elite Four. Also make sure your team can deal with Unaware walls.
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The buildup to the champion is quite neat.
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The entire pantheon comes to watch the final showdown.
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Total Whiteouts: 10
His grass starter got 4 consecutive crits and there's not really much I could do about it with my entire team being slower than it.
Second attempt took a bit of maneuvering around his Dracovish who weaponized my own rain against me, but after he went down the rest of his squad crumbled pretty quickly when he wasn't receiving divine crits.
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Title's dropped, roll credits.
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>>55794649
>>55794653
congrats
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The Slowaffen in all their glory!
>>55794654
Thank.
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There's some loose ends to tie up...
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That's enough for this morning. I'll do some more when I get off work.
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>>55794660
gg
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>Fawniae has a 100 bp fairy giga drain
kek, I thought it was just a le high bp sig move
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How convenient
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Whiteouts: 37
Got swept by the Moxie Gyarados the first attempt kek
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>>55794660
Time to retire and start that Slowbro rehabilitation ranch, where they can live and frolic away from the evils of society.
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That wasn't bad, Guts Heracross was scary though
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Whiteouts: 38
Where did the Sneedslash and Rhyperior go?
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Here's >>55794574 : https://files.catbox.moe/vvx766.mp4
It's pretty neat desu
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I want it.
>>55793215
Portugal is somewhat akin to an Iberian Scotland and it's relationship with Spain is equally as sour, the dev completely ignoring Portugal is probably out of spite.
>>55794043
Oh it was, believe me.
>>55794212
>Emperor Constantine
>>55794449
Fun fact: Cerberus in Greek roughly translates to "spotted one", Pluto/Hades named his dog Spot.
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>>55794660
GG.
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Why do I hear the sound of hands furiously rubbing in the distance?
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Whiteouts: 41
That team really got me kek
Wasn't fun being on the receiving end of Slowbro's power, though I guess it's my comeuppance for keeping them in the mines for a bad ending point
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>>The E4 is level 74
>While I'm hitting 60
fug
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Fire/Steel type with Levitate and Heatproof, sadly it's stuck with Heatproof right now and nature is naive, which means it can't even Gyro Ball very well, but it was the one with the best IVs I could get, anyone's seen a nature changer or something akin to an ability capsule?
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>>55795305
I told you there was a big spike.
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Ah, the game does reference the original meaning of the word tyrant.
Fun fact: demon or daemon in Greek didn't have the connotations it has in Christianity, it was in fact their term for spirit and they were considered largely benefic.
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>>55795348
You can just buy 4 more Bronzors soon if you don't mind leveling them.
From what I can tell there's no nature-changing service in the main game.
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Legendaries with Perish Song are the worst.
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>>55795414
Some mons are just legendarily suicidal.
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Not just one, but two ancient civilizations destroyed by (((decadence))). Neat.
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Whiteouts: 48
2 from Ghost
4 from Poison, as expected
1 from Fairy
Fuck, I hate fighting with a 14 (XIV) level disadvantage
Poison finally made me load up my mons on Choice items
>>55795392
haha...
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This is slander of the highest order.
>>55795450
Did you enjoy the fluttermanes?
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>>55795457
Thankfully, MaCHAD can just bicthslap them to oblivion with banded Shadow Sneak kek
Though the bugged disguise really got on my nerves for a couple of those fights
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>Alexander the Great was given immortality by the special Unown if he founded the cult of the union
>He thinks republic-era Rome is the gravest threat to the Hellenic world and not what's (((right around the corner)))
[/spoiiler]
Orevald is going to vibrate in his chair when he sees this scene.
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It begins...
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The Slowaffen easily triumphs.
>He has a Victini
That's actually a great touch.
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AI moment kek
https://files.catbox.moe/73yysb.mp4
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>>55795487
Did he have a horseMon? Wasnt Alexander kinda obsessed with his horse and renamed several conquered cities after it?
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The bros
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This single screencap spits on the values of all of the great warrior-kings of old. Fearing death enough to make some compromising deal like this and riding it out for centuries under the sea instead of embracing the uncertainty of the impermanence of life. There's even another NPC in this game who touches on this too. I think he's easily the most defiled historical figure by this rhetoric; it goes against basically every principle he was reported to have had.
>>55795498
He had a Mudsdale with a nickname, yes.
>>55795496
Huh, his team is completely different depending on your starter rather than just 1-2 mons getting swapped around.
>>55795499
GG
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>>55795399
That's ass.
>>55795457
>>55795472
THE DEV OF THIS GAME DARES, FUCKING DARES BESMIRCH THE NAME OF ONE OF HISTORY'S GREATEST MEN?! A MAN WHO INSPIRED SUCH CONFIDENCE IN HIS TROOPS THAT THEY WOULD BRAVE THE GOBI DESERT ON FOOT IN HIS NAME, A LION AMONGST MEN WHO IS THE VERY ESSENCE OF WHAT A RULER SHOULD BE, A FEARLESS AND CARING LEADER WHO PUT HIS OWN LIFE AT RISK COUNTLESS TIMES AT THE FRONTLINE WITH HIS TROOPS, A CONQUEROR WITH FEW EQUALS, A MAN WHO WAS TAKEN FROM THIS WORLD TOO SOON BY THE FUCKING PERVERSION OF THE FILTHY KIKES WHO POISONED HIM AND THIS GAME DARES, FUCKING DARES DO THIS.........SO.....MUCH....HATE.......
>>55795496
>>55795499
GG.
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>>55795544
Atleast they gave him his beloved horse.
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AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>55795512
>>55795544
Thanks bros
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Mercury, did you forget how many demigod siblings you have?
>>55795556
Giving him Bucephalus somehow makes this fight even more insulting.
>>55795585
W-we....we can never escape Empire can we?
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And for doing the battle tower equivalent, you get access to the gods' battles, which seem to scale with your level, and they have items, because fuck you
You also get an infinite amount of these, which level your mon by 10
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I want to say I appreciate some of the small things like the recounting of the sword of Damocles, but I'm still very sour after that Alexander debacle.
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Not content with only ravaging the kingdom of man, the Slowaffen challenges the Gods themselves!
>>55795653
For what it's worth the Alexander thing is the single worst thing in the game in terms of historical butchering.
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>>55795682
Even more than Harlem Carthage?
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Janus
>Claydol, Victini, Volcanion, Melmetal, Deoxys,Farigiraf
I'm a dumbass and didn't realize I was supposed to go back and get my other 3 pokemon so I fought him with just Cerberus, Slowbro and Rapidash
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AIIIIIIEEEEEEE!
>>55795682
Oh it's Janus, back when I still made the horrid mistake of playing Smite he was one of my mains.
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>Morpeko randomly has Tyrantrum's cry and is doing a Roman salute
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>>55795703
I mained Cthulhu and Tiamat myself. They weaponized pretty much everything wrong with Smite as a game in the funniest way and gave great schadenfreude.
>>55795727
When he gets hangry he starts doing math about how many years it would take to bake 6,000,000 cookies.
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This section is surprisingly pretty funny.
>>55795734
I played Smite since season 1 and I was a diehard guardian player, Ymir, Ares and Sobek were my jam, then Hirez made guardians completely useless by ruining defensive and bruiser items and buffed ADCs so much that I really couldn't bother to play the game anymore after season 3 came around and ruined everything I barely bothered playing the game anymore,I tried to switch up to my mage mains but the game had become so miserable that I quit, are guardians still pretty much unplayable these days?
>You want me to cook HOW MANY cookies in just a single day?! FOR 4 YEARS STRAIGHT?!
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Since Swift Swim apparently only works when you use Rain Dance and not when Drizzle activates after a bit of testing, I'm switching up my team to be better suited to fight the ubers in Olympus.
>>55795690
Honestly? Yeah. While the blackwashing is really bad, this is basically in direct diametric opposite to everything he stood for philosophically.
>>55795769
No idea, I haven't played since Atlas was released. Guardians and Warriors were easily the most fun part of Smite I agree.
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Dammit game, you're hitting me in my punny bone.
>>55795800
I still remember the days Hercules used to make people shit their pants.
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>Do full batch of EV training for new team
>XP share was off so only the front mon got the EVs
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The sheer irony of this statement does not escape me.
>>55795984
Happens.
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Has anyone found Assault Vest? I'm contemplating what my options are against the inevitable Zeus/Jupiter Specs Miraidon.
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>>55795984
F
>>55796023
I have one, I'm pretty sure it was from an npc in Carthage
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>>55795499
gg
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>>55796072
>I'm pretty sure it was from an npc in Carthage
I can't seem to find it there.
By the way does Punic Charge have any special properties?
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>>55796130
Thanks
>>55796136
Fuck, I couldn't find it either, dunno where it'd be then
>By the way does Punic Charge have any special properties?
It's a 80 bp priority move kek, found that out during the league
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New team for godslaying. The slowaffen has retired and is peacefully resting after a long life of violence.
>Fuck nothing for water switchins
I-it'll be fine h-haha.
>>55796175
Thanks for checking at least.
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There's legendaries up here kek
Can the gods stand up to this fucker, I wonder
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>>55796195
>Can the gods stand up to this fucker, I wonder
This game's AI sure can't. I'm limiting myself to non-legendaries for added challenge until I'm ready to steamroll them completely.
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Round 2 with Hercules first.
>Hydreigon, Mudsdale, Honchcrow, Machamp, Mamoswine, Terrakion
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>First faggot has 4/6 legendaries
Fun
Was a good test run, I'll probably keep this thing in the back for now
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Please don't tell me they all have 3-4 full restores
>They do
ugh
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Venus
>Tsareena, Staraptor, Top Lel, Milotic, Gardevoir, Cloyster
>>>>>>Cloyster
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Based?
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>>55796218
The Hydreigon makes sense for Hercules since he fought the Hydra, and Machamp i guess since he was big and buff. But do the rest of his mons have any meaning?
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>Your PP isn't restored between fights
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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ADHD-kun
>Lugia, Rapidash, Turtonator, Ninjask, Crobat, Deoxys-S

>>55796243
No idea. I'm pretty sure Honchcrow is a reference but I'm unsure as to what.
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>>55796243
>>55796264
Mudsdale makes sense because one of his labors was to clean the nasty man-eating horse stables.
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>you can't fly or escape rope out of utica when you're done
annoying as hell
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Ah yea, that's definitely a good pokemon to give for postgame
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>Bronzong, Heatran, Camerupt, Conkeldurr, Aegislash, Registeel
I feel I may have overprepared by EV training. They're going down pretty easily without any legendaries.
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He sells you Master Balls when you beat him
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>>55796269
Right. Didnt he drown the horses or something?
Also he rode a pegasus too right?
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Pls no bully, A-artemis
>Xerneas, Ursaring, Virizon, Sawsbuck, Latias, Lunala

Lunala is inexplicably not animated and I don't think Shadow Shield mechanically works. If a dev is lurking this thread, please consider giving the Olympians proper EV spreads+maxed IVs in a future update. The Gods are too easy.
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icarus sweep and not even touched. It's not talonflame but it pretty much is, larvitar dumped as favorite pokemon talonflame is new best friend.
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Hades next
>Sableye, Giratina, Jellicent, Darkrai, Dusclops, Houndplut
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>Groudon, Tapu Bulu, Kangaskhan, Wo-Chien, Roserade, Exeggutor
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kek
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>>55796341
>I only hunt! Get ready, prey!
Dios mío
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Sober up bro.
>Ludicolo, Naganadel, Cherrim, Muk, Fawniae, Hypno
Naganadel popped an error when it appeared but thankfully didn't crash the game. Easily the easiest of the pantheon so far.
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why the fuck is hannibal's mansion packed with minigames
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Well that came out of nowhere, wew
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Persephone
>Hoopa, Shaymin-S, Tapu Fini, Yveltal, Gourgeist, Mimikyu
They don't even have custom movesets. Why'd the devs get lazy with what could've been the most kino postgame boss rush in a fangame?
>>55796426
I don't know but I hate it too. It completely kills the pacing.
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in that hannibal fight where he uses items despite it being radical mode, you can also use items kek
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>>Six Full Restores
The only really challenging god for me was Neptune, faggot wouldn't let the Kyogre die, and I didn't have anything to kill it quickly, so it tore through nearly my whole team
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Oh shit
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>Latios, Darmanitan, Trevenant, Florges, Solgaleo, Meloetta
>>55796444
>you can also use items kek
I didn't realize that kek. I thought the game was just screwing you.
>>55796449
GG
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>>55796452
>>Wonder Guard Electric type holding a Air Baloon
faggot
You don't have to win, but I WILL win.
Whiteouts: 49
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>Moltres, Koraidon, Diancie, Jirachi, Volcarona, Chandelure
I missed 3 Stone Edges in a row with Tyranitar and everything was still okay.
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It seems the time I couldn't play really made me lag behind, time to speedrun
>can you help us against the paldeans
I would gladly join in the slaughter of any paldean
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Kyogre, Wishiwashi, Marecampus, Seismitoad, Gothitelle, Manphy
6-0'd by Comfey
>>55796486
Based P*ldean cleanser and welcome back.
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>>55796316
He washed them out by diverting a river.
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Ares
>Gallade, Braviary, Sirfetch'd, Aegislash, Buzzwole (based), Kommo-O
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Where's the day care again?
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Athena
>Noctowl, Falinks, Arachanid, Zacian-C, Articuno, Metagross
I like seeing how many mythological references they stuff in these teams.
>>55796533
I still have the daycare quest queued because I forgot.
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Wait a minute does it mean that even if it isn't in combat it boosts my other mons if it's sunny or is it a boosts it and a party member in doubles?
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Juno
>Kangaskhan, Ho-Oh, Sneedoking, Rayquaza-M, Sneedoqueen, Hydreigon
N-nani
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Pantheon schizophrenia episode.

Jupiter
>Zapdos, Alakazam, Arceus, Tauros, Olympeus, Tyranitar
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A story in three pictures
Faggot
>>55796540
It's on route 6
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Imagine if braviary evolved at a sensible leel like this...
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>>55796605
SAME
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FAGGOT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>usually evolves at level 35
Nice
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>>55796613
Did the dev give him the Chadjaw?
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>>55796617
>minus attack nature
I haven't seen mints so far so I assume they aren't in this game
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Fuck off
>>55796612
kek, I always forget Thousand arrows goes through Air Baloon too
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This game is surprisingly short for being based on the second punic war
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what the hell move was baxcalibur using, it oneshot my whole team like it was an ohko move like fissure. if it weren't for that I would've done this on the first shot, two tries. back to africa with you pubes
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>>55796683
Bax has a 120 base power move that I am pretty sure he can spam
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>>55796633
How many fucking times does this fight loop? I've beaten him 4 times now.
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>>55796709
Forever
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>>55796716
Fraudulent and homosexual.
Thanks for checking.
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Man, I'm sure glad the Epilogue cutscene didn't get translated, w-who'd want to see that? haha...
>>55796719
No problem, I already had RPG Maker pulled up there to check
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final team and stats. icarus was the mvp but medusa is a close second, it learns something called petrifying eyes that just freezes pokemon with 100% accuracy. cherrim was also really useful, they all were.
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So why use a pokemon known to be slow as slave labor?
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Can anyone translate this?
I found the lumberjacks, Emilia, and the rock gym guy but I'm apparently still missing one.
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>>55796776
There's one in Rome, at the theater
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>>55796787
Got him too. I'm apparently missing one more.
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>>55796766
Because the region is irrationally cruel to the Broes, and deserves to be punished for it!
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Wait a minute if the fossils are here is there even a way to revive them? And I always forget are the Kalos fossils in this minigame or is it just taken directly from gen 4?
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>>55796796
Missed the one in Massilia.
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Will you write reviews?
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>>55796813
Yes. I need some time to collect my thoughts because my feelings on this game aren't nearly as straightforward as they are for most. I'll probably have to change my review format for this game.
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Here's the map locations for anybody else since I already spent the couple of minutes stitching them together kek
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>>55796826
Don't forget the lumberjack.
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>>55796804
Ah so this is where I revive fossils
I got myself a root fossil so at least I can get a sneaky stones user to hopefully help against birds, fire and bugs
Well if Craidily even learns it
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>>55796843
>the revived cranidos and shieldon are level 50 but the lileep is level 25
Weird
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>>55796843
Apparently Lizardon Lockons is a TM in the game's files but I never found it. It's probably behind 30 layers of autism and isn't even worth it aside from breaking sturdy given how exploitable the AI is.
>>55796868
I think each pair of fossils just has an arbitrary level assigned to them.
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>>55796874
What a shame, that is one of my favorite moves to use and since my team at the moment is extremely vunerable to mons rock is good against since its mostly grass and both grass and dragon also share an ice weakness I was thinking about how helpful it could end up
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>>55796879
You need to worry more about everything having random ice beam/ice punch coverage more than actual ice types if you're playing on radical reddit mode.
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>>55796903
Thankfully I decided against playing that mode since I had a feeling I would end up being left behind
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not really planning on doing the epilogue so short review. Visuals and music are the peak, especially the pokemon center remix, amazing. what really sours this experience was all of the fucking bugs and radical mode not being balanced for the whole game. I don't mind the teams themselves being harder but I don't like being at such a level disadvantage for the bosses when the rest of the trainers are way way lower levelled. also not being allowed to even buy potions and revives sucked when doing the longer routes, as for some reason my pokevial never refilled once until the elite four. the no item rule being broken completely during the hannibal fight was also bizarre. this being the definitive edition I have to wonder if it was even more fucked before or if the dev just fumbled the ball on the release. It's not so bad that I'd say the spanish streak is broken but it's definitely the worst of the ones we've played, 7/10
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Can't wait to crush your ego
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>>55796972
Well that got resolved quickly
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>looks good
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No gookmoot I will not be spending 10 minutes separating this into 9 different posts and spending a mandatory minute between each post, fuck off.

Here's the review. I'm not sure I communicated everything that needed to be said, but it was already getting too wordy so better just get it done.

https://justpaste DOT it/e263r
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>the bax got burned by the carcoal
It appears the abillity isn't working
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>>55797195
A lot of things aren't working. I hope your strat isn't relying on weather abilities doing what you expect h-haha.
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>>55797167
I'll admit I am not really knowledgeable on ancient history or things of that nature, I didn't realize there was blackwashing of any kind until you pointed it out in your review. that's fucking messed up to do in a game where you've got "this is going to be as historically accurate as I can realistically make it" plastered on the opening credits. on the same note rip Germans as well. thanks for the comprehensive review
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I went upstairs to grab the item I saw and an entire cutscene happened down there
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I didn't realize that he loses the grass type on evolution
Still going to use him because he is grass in spirit
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Whiteouts: 6
The fire gym is going to be a bit of a problem it seems
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>>55797608
And as satyr there is no doubt he smokes grass and fucks ass.
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Whiteouts: 9
Is the sun actually permanent? Also why the hell is brozong that fast?
Didn't realize I forgot to post this when I decided to go complete some sidequests first
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>The good
The presentation is amazing, be it (most of) the tilesets, the music, or (again, most of) the mapping. These in particular carry it a ton, and are easily the best part of the game.
>The cutscenes were typically really good, especially the likes of >>55795193.

>The questionable
Some of the custom tilesets and battle backgrounds looks much simpler than the usual public use tilesets and battle backgrounds and clash a bit, though I'm glad that the effort was made to make them regardless, it really adds to the game.

The Translation is extremely inconsistent towards the end of the game, with some areas being more untranslated than not, and most egregiously, the entire epilogue cutscene being completely untranslated. I understand that translating an entire game is almost certainly a fuckton of effort, be it from translating the dialogue itself, inserting the translated dialogue, or testing it, or all of the above, so I won't hold it against the devs too much, though the epilogue being untranslated is crazy, and makes it seem like the translation wasn't playtesed at all.

I don't care as much about the blackwashing as some of the others, but it's still bad, especially from a game claiming to try and be mostly historically accurate.
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>The bad
While the presentation is great, the gameplay feels like an afterthought at points. I don't mind some shit, like occasional collision errors, but man, some things are really annoying. Learnsets for multiple pokemon are fucked, be it TMs or level up moves. For example, my starter couldn't relearn any moves, minus scratch and howl, and couldn't learn Gig Drain via the TM, so once I got rid of it for it's signature move, I couldn't put Giga Drain on it anymore.

Radical Reddit difficulty is really dumb. I wasn't expecting Anil's actually pretty decent quality of hard mode, but man, it's bad. Just the changed teams would have been more than enough, but making Gym Leaders, the league, and a small handful of bosses outlevel you dramatically doesn't make the game hard, it makes it annoying, outside of the darknigger, who was much worse because of the sheer level difference for that point on the game.
Not to mention that even stopping the player from buying healing items is really dumb, especially when the Pokevial equivalent just doesn't work until you get to the pokemon league where you're given a second one while your items are gone.

Overall, while the game looks great, it's lack of polish gameplay wise holds it back a lot imo. I'll give the game a high 6 or low 7/10. Despite the lack of polish, it's still a good game, just not 'definitive edition' good. If the devs take the time to fix a lot of the gameplay, it'll be a great game.
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>>55797778
Yeah, weather abilities work like Gan 5, where they stay up until changed
>Also why the hell is brozong that fast?
PBS shows it has base 54 speed, so who knows kek
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>>55797814
>Yeah, weather abilities work like Gan 5
I could swear I saw Sandstream run out naturally once or twice in particularly long fights. This game has mechanically gaslit me on multiple occasions now so who even knows anymore kek.
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Well after the 10th Whiteout I managed to win with a win that came down to if he broke out of a para-fusion or not
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I just realized I brought a satyr to the public baths, this isn't going to end well, to some
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I am pretty sure current dictator is a mistranslation but it's a funny line either way
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>>55799039
Roman dictators were a lot different than how the term is used today
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Well this proves who is the superior plant guy
Ignore the non plant sheep
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>>55793215
I mean, this looks like it's based upon the Punic wars, so over a thousand years before Portugal was a thing; and the territories that would become Portugal weren't really involved.
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I got softlocked, another reason to hate horses
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Whiteouts: 13
The rapidash was hell for me to deal with
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It's amazing how the very next battle I had to deal with another
Also these two battles back to back have two of the three pokemon I outright hate (Tinkaton and Scream Tail) so I at least caved their skulls in
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Kinda surprised there wasn't a fight vs him, from what I saw he only uses ground types and I wanted to destroy him
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>>55800028
Oh nevermind I have to hunt him down now
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>>55799941
>>55799959
Illegal moveset or broken TM implementation as well. The player's Rapidash can never learn Swords Dance which is a big part of why it's so dangerous.
>Tink hater
Based
>Scream Tail
Why?
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>>55800250
Because it overtook Incineroar as the number one VGC mon
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>>55800255
I don't follow VGC. What does it do other than just be a fat supportbot?
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>>55800338
If you are talking about roar nothing really, he is simply the best support for the format
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>>55800906
I meant Screamtail. What's so annoying about it that warrants hatred?
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>>55800969
It surpassed incineroar in usage, that is why I hate it not what it does
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Sorry for just disappearing, storm came in outta nowhere and lightning hit my powerline last afternoon, I guess Jupiter is pissed off with me for some reason, then to make things shittier, I couldn't post on 4chan for hours on end after my power came back because of a stupid bug were I couldn't get the fucking captcha no matter what I tried.
>>55796243
Hercules had a labor of cleaning a stable and I'm pretty sure he took a bet with the guy that if he did it in one day he would get a horse out of it and another labor involving dealing with Diomedes' fire-breathing, man-eating mares he got from Mars/Ares, so either Rapidash and Mudsdale fit here, Terrakion is based on the MAD BVLL of Crete, Honchkrow is based on the man eating birds he had to kill in a swamp, Mamoswine is based on the boar of Arcadia and Machamp might be a reference to that one multi limbed giant Hercules had to take cattle from.
>>55796316
Pegasus is Poseidon's rape baby with Medusa, it flew outta her when Perseus killed her and it has nothing to do with Hercules, Disney brain rot hit you hard anon.
>>55796341
The femcel goddess.
>>55796776
>The important guests are in: Saguntus, Rome, Massilia and Gades.
>The wood can be found with a lumberjack in route 3
>The less important guests can be found all over Ocidentis
>>55800969
It's a braindead overpowered Fairy type that hits absurdly hard, has busted coverage and is so impossibly difficult to wall that you're pretty much forced to either use it or dedicate your whole team to countering it, with Tera being a thing it becomes even more obnoxious to deal with and there's also the fact it abuses sun so amazingly well. It's easily one of the worst Pokemon ever designed.
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Thank god for the archive because there was 0 way I could have figure out that you are supposed to use this item that only had functionality in one dungeon
At least then put the order something like the order of the colors on the rainbow so someone can at least logic it out
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>>55801224
>and Machamp might be a reference to that one multi limbed giant Hercules had to take cattle from.
This region's Machop line is a reference to (statues of) Hercules himself as evidenced by their signature hyperbeam clone move's flavor text.
>Scream Tail
What is it hitting hard with its 65/65 offensive statline? From what I can see of its movepool and the rest of its stats, I'd imagine its niche is clicking Encore or Helping Hand on things in doubles?
>>55801259
This is easily the worst puzzle in the game.
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>>55801330
I just realized I said the wrong mon name, it's not scream tail it's flutter mane I was thinking about
I hate paradox names, didn't help that the mon name was in spanish
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After I spent 20 or so minutes hunting for a halfway decent Charcadet, I tried finding out how to evolve it, haven't checked the PBS yet but it isn't with Fire or Dusk stones like in Anil, decide to try doing the timetravel quest after finding the helmet of Aeneas, this happens, that fucking bug from earlier is still on, I still have two following Pokemon and it's crashing my game consistently during certain sections and of course you can't turn off following Pokemon like in other fangames.
>>55801330
Sorry, it's just sleep deprivation brain rot, I was thinking of Flutter Mane instead of Scream Tail, Scream Tail is one of the few Fairies I actually like, it's really bulky, fast and has an amazing movepool.
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Lol, lmao even.
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You know I wasn't expecting to literally go to the underworld fight a dead friend using my team while the one who got the planet title taken away from him watches
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Scheisse.
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>>55801428
And don't tell me it was just a hallucination since I literally caught a mon there
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Help bros I'm having intrusive thoughts about picking up RPGMaker and trying to make a small scale project this summer into winter. Talk me out of it.
>>55801346
>>55801361
Oh lol nobody likes Flutter Mane. The most support I've seen for the mon is often the sentiment "It lets me copium of a world where Mismagius was slightly better" and I've yet to see a single person defend its utterly fucked stat distribution and movepool.
>Crash
RIP
>>55801432
>Softlock
RIP ^2
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>>55801445
Those aren't intrusive thoughts, it is simply divine inspiration
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>>55801445
I've been told messing around with RPGMaker isn't that difficult and there's a few fairly comprehensive guides on youtube that I recall from memory, if you have some inspiration, I say go for it.
Yeah, even smogon pedos who like to pretend Jewdengo and Kingambit aren't completely busted admit Flutter Mane is atrociously designed.
As we have seen, this game did not get a lot of playtesting.
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>>55801557
The project will live or die depending on how hard it is to get the AI to what I'd consider an acceptable state in the timeframe I can realistically commit to making the game. I'm optimistic though; if I can get this working, I think I'll include an in-game advanced battling academy like Stadium 2 has where the player has a lot more advanced concepts articulated to them with examples on how to apply them.
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>>55801584
I would hate Flutter Mane so much less if it had a 70/65/65/125/125/120 (speed at the end) statline with its current movepool. It'd be extremely strong still, but nowhere near as centralizing.
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Well now that all of the shadow wizard money gang is dead what do I do?
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>>55801607
Nevermind just saw that the questlog says it now
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>>55801607
Beat the game first.
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>>55801621
Ah I see, was thinking the Cartago the log was talking about was a previous area with a different name in the translation
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>Has a Dudunsparce and gushes about wanting to go north to see those muscular men with beautiful red beards
>>55801598
It's sad because I really like Mismagius and witch mons in general, they pretty much left the poor thing to rot.
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Hmmmmm, I can't imagine why someone would mock the the mighty BIGGUS DICKUS and the beautiful INCONTINENTIA BUTTOX!
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>>55801445
kek, I've been floating the idea of picking up drawfaggotry and spriting for like a week myself, though it'd definitely take a (probably really long) while to produce good results
I don't know much about coding AI and shit, but the rebornlike AI is generally a lot better than Essentials' AI if you just want a le good AI for battles
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https://www.rebornevo.com/forums/topic/71530-195-community-test/
>Announces 19.5 is a thing like a month and a half ago
>Already in le community release
RebornModderAutists...I kneel...
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Fun fact: the Romans would occasionally shitpost and draw a dick in the pavement to indicate the direction of whorehouses.
>>55801765
The Pokemon reading stats spreads is something I frankly despise, especially as someone who made the mistake of playing intense in the past.
>>55801805
Holy autism.
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Degenerates like you belong on a cross.
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>>55801765
I'm aiming for something of a chimera of RebornAI, CloverAI, and Stadium2 AI in terms of how it handles decisionmaking with a few input flags that can be used to limit the calculation depth on a per-trainer basis.
>Drawfaggotry
Neat. If I end up getting something workable, I'll pitch the game premise here and anyone who makes something good and on-theme can contribute as much or as little as they like.
The long and the short of what I have in mind
>Give the players a tremendous amount of team-building options early
>Large (documented) overhauls to a few system mechanics and tons of tweaks to stats, movepools and such to encourage a wider variety of mon usage without creating convergent teambuilding
>IV and EV modification tools as rewards for exploring and sidequests rather than backloaded into endgame.
>As a consequence of the game being better balanced, almost everything you face is more threatening
>Simple 8 Gym leader region with periodic side dungeons and evil team bosses.
>Gyms are based on themes and strategies, not types so people running mono/dualtype runs don't get completely dicked for rolling Fire/Ice and the first gym is Rock or something.
>Gyms being themed and not typed makes it harder to steamroll the gym by just clicking super effective STAB buttons
>Gym leaders will outlevel you by 2-3 ensuring you never can rely on speed ties of same base speed pokemon to win, but the overall stat increase isn't large enough you need to meaningfully change your strategy
>A lot of chudposting and shitposting to act as a karmic counterweight to the pozz in nearly every other fangame
>Some funny encounters and system changes designed to jew nuzlockers while being barely intrusive on normal playthroughs
>I'm entertaining the idea of introducing a realtime timer to make decisions in battles to keep the player thinking on their feet and stop people from midfight calcfaggotry
>If time/sprites/effort permits, a few cross-gen evos or regional forms
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>Is Jewing people of their money via a money lending scheme and also by exploiting the war to inflate prices
>Is named (((Paul)))us
Oy vey......
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Any idea as to how you evolve trade evolution mons? Do they just evolve naturally?
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>>55801882
They evolve on level yeah.
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>>55801805
A lot of great stuff but
>pisscord integration
How and why?
>there might be one new quest
NOOO I DONT WANT TO OPEN REBORN AGAIN TO KEEP IT AT 100%
>>55801863
Seems neat, kinda wish I had the time to work on my ideas for fangames but I barely have time to play
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Remembered to do the pantheon quests and what in the world is this moveset
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>>55801911
NIDOKING HAS POISON STING WHAT THE HELL
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>>55801911
>>55801916
Those are just the shitty levelup autogen movepools for each. You basically have to fix them with your own TMs.
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>>55801922
Thank god, you dont have to rely on TRs.
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Make sure you have fire coverage for the second flashback.
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>tyranitar is the one that is at the first slot at default
>first battle is a mon with an ability that gives it evasion on sand
I have missed 4 times in a row because of that
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There's one big mechanical thing I've been contemplating I want your input on for the potential game
>Stat stages only go up to +-3 instead of +-6
As far as I can see it, that's usually the cutoff point where something stops being reasonably answerable reactively and just flattens the entire team. This also caps things like evasionfaggotry and cosmic power faggotry along with a bunch of other cheesy stuff that isn't necessarily fun to use nor play against that requires +6/+6 to work.
>Belly Drum
Would be rebalanced and compensated to accommodate the lower ceiling if such a change happens.
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>>55801936
The game is about to throw a bunch of Bug/Fighting and Bug/Steel types, unless you have Fire moves to teach your mons or you're willing to waste a king's rock to flinch hax the Shuckle at the start, this battle is practically unwinnable.
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Good thing I decided to do them before the league, this will go great on my starter
>>55801969
I got the the flamethrower and fire blast, it wasn't a headache thankfully
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>>55801993
Must be nice for a starter with a functioning ability h-haha.
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The racing minigame is buggy as shit on my end and the controls are often confusing, for some reason I'm not gaining any speed after I waste them on a charge, that an the AI is buggy as shit and has it out for you during this section as well.
>>55801993
Neato.
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>>55802016
From what I got when I played it pressing back than foward accelerates you and in a turn pressing the direction you are going then foward also accelerates you
I just did that and everyone else crashed into each other until they died
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>>55802022
Fate was weird today, right after that I also got into one of these races in the quest
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Took me around 7 tries, the camera does you no fucking favors during this section, it very easily freaks the fuck out and you're left in the dark, the brake control is completely fucking broken and often turns on by itself, this minigame is way too unresponsive and overall frustrating, I appreciate trying to add minigames to fangames, but smooth them out for fuck's sake.
>>55802022
The AI was constantly trying to crash into me and due to the camera being an absolute piece of shit, it was pretty hard to dodge them sometimes.
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>>55802056
Does speed EV training your Zebra's count as doping?
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>Faggot marriage in Rome
I thought the niggerwashing was bad enough.
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>>55801863
Dunno how feasible that would be, and would likely entail braving a few shitcords to ask for help and a lot of learning
>Neat.
Yeah, if I decide to commit and actually do it, I'll probably end up fucking off for a while to work on it
>>55801899
Looks like it's just generic 'shows that you're playing' shit thankfully
>NOOO I DONT WANT TO OPEN REBORN AGAIN TO KEEP IT AT 100%
haha...
>>55801962
Seems like something similar to Tectonic and Empire, but instead of increasing the total stat boosts, you're lowering them
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>>55802121
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>55802121
>summons desert field
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>one of the sidequests involves cleopatra
Kinda neat timing that I am playing this right now, SMT DX2 just added Cleopatra
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>>55802107
I'm thinking I'll more or less work on it for the remainder of this year come summer and perhaps into next year then see how much I like the project and if I want to continue it to completion. I know full well how big of a task even a simple "bad" game is to make when you're the one juggling the entire pipeline and this'd realistically be a 2-3 year project if I want to see it through to completion and have it be anything approaching good.
>shitcord
Nevermind, project canceled. Kidding aside, Essentials looks like it has a pretty comprehensive wiki for learning things right?
>Tectonic and Empire
I've not played them. What do they do? And yeah, I'm more or less trying to lower the ceiling for setup or snowbally mechanics across the board and maximize the number of higher interactivity gamestates that occur in a single match since that's where the bulk of the fun is.
>Discord integration for a singleplayer game
Jesus how horrifying.
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Finally found Scyther, it's bellow Paulus' house in Rome if anyone wants to find it.
>>55802121
NOOOOOOOOOOO!
>>55802139
Tectonic and Empire more or less change a lot of Pokemon, stats, abilities and how boosts work, I can't speak much for Tectonic but Empire did it....poorly, to say the least of it, it also turned a lot of moves into modern Yugioh card levels of convoluted.
I think lowering the effectiveness of boosts is a good call and overall makes fights more fair.
>Discord integration for a singlerplayer game
You'd be surprised how common that is becoming for Pokemon fangames, Empire for instance has several NPCs throughout the game that keep pestering you to go to Octavius' discord.
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>>55802139
they have some documentation of what they've done
https://www.tectonic-game.com/balance
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I'm stuck looking for oranges in the Troy quest and I literally have no idea where, the town's store doesn't sell it, I've already spoken with all npcs and there's only 3 accessible buildings.
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>>55802321
Oran berries, the oranges are oran berries
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>>55802351
I already bought 3 and nothing happened, plus aren't oran berries based on blueberries?
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>>55802358
Well I ended up buying like 6 before it worked but no they are oranges
Can't post the image because image limit but here are the names for it
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Oran_Berry#Names
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>Mudsdale has Damp as an ability
Also image limit, do I bake or someone else wants to?
>>55802368
Yeah it's really weird, I already had quite a few oran berries and it just wasn't working, had to buy like 7 for the game to finally work.
Also noted.
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>game now is displaying error messages wenever I use the starter
Please don't tell me it's because of the item
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>>55802425
Well reading the error message it seems to be the item
>rest of the bag is gone because I am at the victory road-lite area that locks you into only being able to heal 5 times with an specifc item so I can't even trade it for another item
>>55801997
I blame this post for cursing me because while the ability works the exclusive item doesn't
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>>55802425
>>55802449
truly the definitive edition
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>>55802457
I am using the definitive edition
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why is everyone white in an african game?
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>>55802462
that's the joke
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Oh because the stuff in my bag got removed I can't change the mon who recieves XP with the XP share
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AND THEN ALONG CAME ZEUS
>>55802479
AND HE BAKED A LOT OF "BREAD"
>>55802479
HE EVEN TURNED INTO A GOOSE TO DO IT ONCE
>>55802479



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