„CRAM IT“-EditionWhat is Pokémon Sleep?Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.FAQ:>How do Shinies work?If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, you only need to feed it a single Poké Biscuit to befriend it.>What should I spend my diamonds on?Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, only get half of max for items and max 100 for Pokémon.>When should I use my items?When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.>What should I spend my sleep points on?Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?Nope! Pokémon retain the level of progress they were at the last time you fed them.>How do dream clusters work?The higher your research rank, the more you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.>Official Pageshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/>Unofficial Pokémon Sleep Wiki[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en>Simple Candy Calculatorhttps://candy.blspnm.com**Back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. If you change phones, or factory reset, your account may be lost otherwise. At the very least copy your Support ID on the first Pokémon Sleep screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**Previous: >>56014358
Just got this lil guy. of course this is the one non-energy down totodile I get
>1,5 x Candies gained from the first sleep research of the day>1,5 x Sleep EXPCool, I guess? The candy thing seems not that useful since it’s harder to influence what mon you get.>>56060216That’s rough. Looks like good candy though.
>>56060240I feel like this influences more where I go next week. Like I might have hung around on Cyan to try for some more water types, but it's probably better for me to head back to Lapis in order to get more candies for Dratini/Ralts/Stufful.
>>56060311If you got a genuinely decent team for LL, yeah, go for it.I don’t have one but I’m still considering it for the area bonus alone. I could also increase it on Snowdrop even further.
>>56060311Tbh yeah that's probably what I'll do too, back to Lapis Lakeside to try for that Ralts and BFS Dratini I'm wanting.The growth event is pretty basic but that's fine really. We'll probably get a water event after that, then a gap week, then the Suicune event.>>56060240I wouldn't be so quick to candy that Totodile, just in case nature mints become a thing.Otherwise though I'd still keep looking because a speed negative nature can sabotage so much.
>>56060407My Lapis Lakeside team is really good.BFS Meganium, BFS Victreebel with Tomatoes/Potatoes/Leeks, Bewear with corn and BFS@50, and my usual BFS Raichu and max skill trigger Wigglytuff.Plus getting my area bonus up for LL will help a lot.Snowdrop Tundra still stuck at 0% lol
>>56060427>mints>holding outI’m also holding out but I do think that anon's croco isn’t good enough to justify a mint. If it had Helping Speed at lvl 25 then yeah, a good hold over if mints aren’t expensive.>ST @ 0%Understandable. There are like 3 mons worth to actively hunt over there. I would rather go to Taupe myself to search for Onix.
>>56060407>able to get Ultra 4 on the first visit>my first visit i was only at Ultra 1 barely>team consists of bfs meganium and bfs primape x2What is your team? When you get your visit bonus up it seems you'll break Master 3 easily.>>56060427Were you using a camp ticket that week? Do you prioritize berries over filling the pot/good recipe?
>>56060852I don’t quite remember but it should be something like:>Gard>Meganium>a shitty Monkey which I later switched out for Raichu>Lucario>FeraligatrAlso not sure if I had a ticket active or not but I’ll leaning towards yes.
>>56060852I don't recall if I was using a good camp ticket the last time I went to Lapis Lakeside, but it's unlikely.My team formation naturally supports both berry gathering and good recipes. It turns out that my team structure is comfortably able to alternative Greengrass Salads, Calm Mind Fruit Salads, and Contrary Chocolate Ham Salads on a Salad week.Actually, since Greengrass Salad is a 62 ingredient dish there's a good chance I may've been using a good camp ticket after all, or alternatively I would've occasionally swapped in my Flareon to make it possible to cook that during the week.The game is overdue an upgrade to ingredient storage and cooking pot size, when that happens it'll be a really big boost to everywhere I go.Lapis Lakeside will benefit greatly on those salads weeks if I can cook Greengrass Salad any day without needing a ticket or helper skill.
>>56061017I bet we get ingredient bag upgrades when they release a new island. Pot size upgrades are also a given when that happens.
>>56060240That's when I bust out my helping bonus buddy
>two cramorant spawn, one hungry>feed it bonus biscuit and great biscuit, fucker gets full>thats fine, there's the second one. have a poke biscuit>biscuit crits on 1 bar, fuck you cram>pretty decent subskills (skill trigger, level, and an ingredient finder) but adamant natureThis Pokemon is a troll
>>56060872>>56061017it feels like I'm lacking something to reach those high numbers. Usually I drop a primape for an ingredient mon to fill up the pot.Maybe I should ignore cooking and go with a full BFS team.All these mons have BFS with the preferred berry.
I am spending the exp week with 5 sleep xp bonus mons and getting 20 levels on raikou for the eventual electric island
>>56061687BFS benefits greatly from actual pokemon levels since berry power corresponds on an exponential curve. So a level 50 pokemon may be almost twice as powerful as a level 30 pokemon.
>>56061687BFS is basically essential, and it's not worth investing in berry specialists without it.A high level berry specialist can also have better performance than a lower level berry specialist that gathers favourite berries, depending on the level gap.This is why I was consistently running my level 50+ BFS Raichu across all islands, it just outperforms a level 30 Typhlosion at Taupe Hollow, a level 30 Meganium on Lapis Lakeside, etc.How good your healer is or running one at all matters a lot too.My shiny Wiggly was a god-roll and has match skill trigger rate + Helping Bonus, so that's also always on my team.>>56061897You can expect to earn 1,942 EXP on your Raikou by doing that, which is equivalent to using 77 candies.That's, not much. For Raikou that's about two levels from 25 to 27.If you forgo stuffing your team with sleep EXP bonus users and have just the Raikou with four other Pokémon actually worth levelling, each team member can get 1,228 EXP. That's earning 6,142 EXP across the whole team, which is like using 245 candies (49 per helper).Basically it's not worth swapping out a Pokémon that needs EXP, for one with Sleep EXP bonus that doesn't need EXP.
It's a bit counter-intuitive, but it's actually more economical to dump as many candies into a pokemon's early levels as possible than to do it piecemeal or anytime in their later levels. Candies always give the same EXP, but the shard costs go up with later levels, so by frontloading as many candies as you can, you end up spending less shards. And since Sleep EXP is mainly static unless there are event or incense bonuses, it's essentially "free" EXP that will save you shards at higher levels. So if you're using candies anyways, better is sooner than later... even if it doesn't feel great to dump 100K+ shards in a single go.
120 Jiggly again.
>>56062659I had the exact same results, except Electric instead of Bug.
Yoloswag are you still playing? ;~;
I was wondering why they chose Cramorant to add as the newest addition but I think I get it now.
>>56063092>is a 5* for pikachu and not a cramorant sleep style
>>56063111I was really hoping a bonus wild pikachu would appear during the post-sleep feeding session after I saw this style, if they'd added that in it would be perfect.
i thought putting 40 of same type candy into the robot makes it likely to shit out an equivalent generic type candy, but i think i only got the same type candy for species candy once and every other time it's been random.also i don't like the escalating shard cost. don't feel like doing more than two pulls a day. only hit 55 last week or the week before and i had spent a lot during entei event so i am pretty much broke.
>>56063577I also haven't done more than 2 pulls a day, and I've also gotten the same type back one singular time.
>>56063577From my 15 pulls, the rate really does seem like each candy provides a 1% lean towards whatever type you put in. Out of 15 inputs of purely Jigglypuff candies, I got back 7 Fairy-type candies.Also once you really get into your max research level cap, you basically get 1.5x Dream Shards everyday since your Research EXP gets converted at 1:1
they really should consider removing the penalties for befriending evolved pokemon and doing something to balance out single stages and two-stage mons against three stages. catching singles and a two-stage or higher already takes more biscuits (most of the time), so what's the big deal with being penalized with gimped stats on top of that? at least make a semi-rare item that can be used on singles twice or caught pre-evolved monsters until their stats match a mon manually developed from stage one.
>>56060240So is this sukusuku?
>>56064565it sure sukusukus at giving the same type of candy that's input
>>56064565>sukusukuit's going to be a pokemon sleep exclusive pokemon.
>>56063988There's really no "penalty", it's just that you're better incentivized to get a first stage Pokemon if at all possible. The supposed upside of catching a pre-evolved Pokemon and single-stagers is that you don't need to spend the extra candies/time/evo materials to build them up to a decent state. Their base stats are typically good, but they mostly miss out of the bonus main skill levels and capacity increases. The only thing they should do is consider dropping recruitment costs for single-stagers from 16 down to 12, since not only are they rare, but at max power, most of them aren't even that good compared to many other more common Pokemon.
Jiggly.
>>56064709For berry specialists it tends to not matter so much, but the penalty is very much real in that an already evolved Pokémon cannot match the full potential of a base-stage Pokémon. For things like skill levels and carry capacity, this matters a ton to skill specialists and ingredient specialists.The added effort needed to befriend an evolved Pokémon often doesn't justify it, and although you do get it at a higher level.The benefits of befriending an evolved can include:>Avoiding running baby Pokémon for any period of time (as they contribute very little at this stage).>Avoiding difficult or expensive evolution requirements (e.g. 150 hrs sleep, gender restrictions, items that cost sleep points, level+candy costs)>Receiving high level PokémonThis is why I aimed to befriend a Sylveon rather than evolve one. I won't need it as a healer as my Wiggly fulfil that role perfectly.It turned out this Sylveon actually has a lot of potential with a great subskill spread, but of course it only has main skill level 1 so would need a lot of main skill seed investment which isn't worth it.Those seeds cost 1800 sleep points each and you can only get one a month on a premium plan. That is a lot to save through doing one evolution.I will mention that I'm actually running a Victreebel that was befriended as a Weepinbell.It was hungry so I just went with it, and it turned out to have a great ingredient and subskill spread with Ingredient Finder M, BFS, and later on skill level and trigger S to compensate for the evolution it missed out on.There would also be my BFS Raichu, which was befriended as a Pikachu. This doesn't matter too much since carry capacity and skill level really don't matter to a Raichu. Befriending a Pikachu costs a little more than a Pichu, but you skip time-gated evolution in doing so.Befriending a Raichu would also save you a thunderstone, which you might need for an Eevee.
Of course the thing I'm hunting decides to shine (and be bad)
>>56065465THATS HIS 3 STAR? So goddamn strange. Looks like he stores his gifts in his foreskin…
>>56062177I have other sleep exp pokemon worth levelling, this is a small selection. the bfs ttar jounrey with xp down is a long one, and the slowpoke would be nice for suicune. I do have another sleep xp slowpoke with bfs, but bfs is at 75.I'll probably run blastoise (not pictured, ~lvl 50, has sleep xp) larvitar mareep(it's actually ampharos already) raikou slowpoke on the beach that weekAlso isn't that xp math wrong? 100x7x1.5x1.70 = 1785 or am i missing something
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>>56065864Qr code
>wake up to 3-star delibird sleep style>was aiming for that due to rarity/only chance with current mons to get to master 3 here>get not one, but TWO critical captures on both the delibird>one has helping bonus the other has bfsBlessed morning. Neither are double eggs but it won't matter probably when 60 hits. BFS has Naughty nature and Ing Finder, but Helping Bonusis neutral and has a lot of skill trigger/boosters with a helping speed thrown in there. BFS might be the way to go I think.
>new pokemon comes out>only ever see it thanks to incensemany such cases
unlocked 4 new sleep styles last night which I think is the most I've found in one night since near the beginning of the gameCurrently at 319/525, hoping I can hit the next breakpoint before the next content update
>>56066130i went cyan cause i can get master 8 and use my incense to hope for a 3 star cause you're kind of unlikely to get it naturallythis morning i woke up to a 1 and 2 star, one was shiny, and i can still try for 3 star with my incense tonight or tomorrowjust get luckystill haven't seen onix
Not too bad I think
>>56066355would be happy to run it for suicune, but probably not for much more
>>56066130I still haven't seen an Onix.
>>56065623I think I misremembered the Sleep EXP Bonuses as 1.17x each, it's actually 1.14x, my bad.So yeah it would actually be as you say, 100x1.5x1.7x7 = 1785.Of the five Sleep EXP Bonus Pokémon there, I'd say probably only the Larvitar and Raikou are worth it.Mareep is a skill specialist and yours lacks anything helping that role.Vulpix is a berry specialist, a skill trigger focus probably isn't the way but it's not necessarily the bad spread.The Slowpoke is only worth it if you're doing it to unlock the Slowpoke tails.
Well I think my hunt for delibird is finally over
>>56067556It's excellent, grats.
Gengar, you did great.Charizard, I'm count on you.
Is this cram good?
Decided to dump in 3 x40 Wobbuffet candies this time.x1 Psychicx2 Fire (crit)x1 Psychic>>56068073Nature really fucks it (speed down is the worst negative nature). Aside from that, I'd say it's just OK. While those are all nice skills to have on a Cramorant, not having any Ingredient Finder until level 50 is pretty rough. An ideal setup would have Helping Speed M and Ingredient Finder M in the first two slots, with Ingredient Finder being the more important one.Unfortunately, I think Cramorant in general is rather low on the power scales. It's not very efficient at getting ingredients and its ability doesn't trigger very often, making it hard to justify a position on most teams.
>started dumping candies into my Dratini (now Dragonair)About 700 candies later and it's only level 35. Supposedly about 300 more to get it to 41 and evolved, then 500 on top of that to get to 50.
>3 candy crits in a row>decide to do the 40k for a change>doesn't critSuccessful bait was successful.
>>56060178Big boy breakfast
Got a Mareep this morning, turns out it's probably top-tier and one worth giving skill seeds.Plus, eggs. Still looking for that Delibird though,It's the gap that was missing in my Raikou team, alongside my BFS Raichu, Dedenne, and Eevee that would be a Jolteon (BFS and skill-down nature).Also these are the 14 candies I got out of the Cram-o-matic this event, only used Sudowoodo and Wobbuffet candies:>Fire-Type Candy M x1>Poison-Type Candy M x1>Psychic-Type Candy M x2>Rock-Type Candy M x5>Dragon-Type Candy M x1>Dark-Type Candy M x1>Steel-Type Candy M x2>Fairy-Type Candy M x1Didn't get any crits at all.
>this morningEh… the shiny is a dud but the Delibird could be decent.
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All of the candies I got from cramming all my jiggly (and only Jiggly) candy down the machine.
>>56069862i had 0 biscuits used and 1 pokemon caught when i delayed research at the start of the week
I've played for about two weeks, how do I judge what makes a pokemon good (both in comparision to other pokemon, as well as other pokemon of the same species)?I know their is the wiki in the sticky but I'd like to have some idea without checking it constantly.Is it worth for instance, to just evolve my allegedly mediocre level 11 pikachu?
>>56070010Resources are scarce and finite in this game, so just evolving or levelling stuff up for the sake of it will hinder you in the long term.This is especially true of Pokémon that need items to evolve, like Pikachu needing a thunder stone. You only get a few freebies so don't waste them, otherwise you have to spend a lot of sleep points to get another.Here's the gist of it:>Check if your Pokémon is a Berry, Ingredient, or Skill Specialist in the top-right>Berry Specialists want Berry Finding S, Helping Speed, and a nature that boosts Helping Speed and/or reduces Ingredient Finding>Berry Specialists do not want Ingredient Finder boosts>Ingredient Specialists want Ingredient Finder, Inventory Up, and Helping Speed, and a nature that boosts Ingredient Finding>Ingredient Specialists don't really need skill trigger but it rarely hurts; a nature that reduces skill chance is usually in their best interest>Skill Specialists want Skill Trigger, Skill Level, Helping Speed, and a nature that>Helping Speed and Helping Bonus are universally good subskills that all Pokémon want>Natures that reduce helping speed are universally bad>Evolving a Pokémon grants it a skill level and a carry capacity upgrade; therefore it is preferable to befriend base stage Pokémon rather than already evolved Pokémon - the trade off is fewer resources needed for something that starts higher level with better stats but has reduced potentialAlso regarding gold skills.Only two of them actually improve your Pokémon's ability to strengthen Snorlax; Helping Bonus, and Berry Finding S. The others are situationally good>Skill Level Up MGreat for skill specialists and non-premium players that can't get main skill seeds>Sleep EXP Bonus / Dream Shard Bonus / Research EXP BonusThese help in the short term, but hinder in the long term. >Energy Recovery BonusHelpful when you have Pokémon that have an Energy Recovery hindering nature, or if you sleep twice per day.
>>56070010>>56070049Also some more detail on Sleep EXP Bonus / Dream Shard Bonus / Research EXP Bonus>Sleep EXP BonusSleep EXP Bonus is a very helpful accelerator and since you will rarely get a perfect roll, if a plenty good Pokémon happens to have this just roll with it and enjoy faster level ups (1.14x is pretty nice)Just be aware that the ideal Pokémon has all five subskill slots directly contributing to strength gains.>Dream Shard Bonus / Research EXP BonusThese paradoxically can reduce your earnings, not improve them, particularly as the bonus is a measly 1.06x.The focus is to raise Snorlax's strength as high as possible, and then to get a good night's sleep in order to get the highest Drowsy Power possible.Highest DP will reward more Dream Shards and Research EXP than a lower DP with the subskill bonuses will.As before, if you have very good usable Pokémon that coincidentally have these skills, you can still enjoy their effects.Right now, Pokémon cap at level 55, so they can't unlock their level 60 ingredient slot, or their level 75 or 100 subskill slots.This is why subskill slot order matters and you need to look at what unlocks at 10 and 25 as a matter of priority.Also, actually pay attention to ingredient slots. Level 30 ingredient slots can make or break some Pokémon.Gengar for example, really needs mushrooms on 30 as it's the best mushroom gatherer currently available. It's also one of the best fiery herbs gatherers, but Dragonite beats it in that respect.
So folks, how many crits did you get through the weekI hit the cram 4/4 every day and got 6 crits total (1 on Monday, 1 on Tuesday, 2 on Wednesday, 0 on Thursday and Friday, 1 on Saturday, 1 Sunday)I crit twice on dragon which was very helpful to get my Dragonair to level 30 so it can now do herbs and corn for curry weeks
>>56070049>Sleep EXP Bonus>These help in the short term, but hinder in the long term. It helps in the short term for the pokemon with the subskill and in the long term for pokemon without sleep exp bonus
>>56070173Not necessarily.If the Sleep EXP Pokémon is not part of your team strategy, you have 4 strategic Pokémon receiving 114 EXP each, versus 5 strategic Pokémon receiving 100 EXP each.This is earning 456 EXP versus 500 EXP, with 114 EXP "wasted" on a team booster that isn't part of your actual strength building strategy. Alternatively, it's 44 EXP not given across your team of five.Basically you make more progress by running 5/5 Pokémon that need EXP, versus 4/5 that need it and one with the Sleep EXP Bonus.Had the sleep EXP bonus been a 1.25x multiplier, it might've been worthwhile.Not saying that you should never do this mind you, the bonus might be what you need to push individuals over milestones like 25 or 30.Sleep EXP isn't where the bulk of progression is though, it's all about candy and handy candy.
>>56069858>delibird could be decentWhat? That Delibird is absolutely top tier. Helping Bonus is one of the best subskills in the game. Only thing that could be improved is having Ingredient Finder subskills but it's still fantastic. I'd 100% seed it to turn that Helping Speed into an M.
>>56070049>>56070062Thanks Anon, I'll try to keep that all in mind. Slow and steady seems the name of the game
>>56070125Did 3 every day, got two crits. Overall not bad, I mostly got the types I wanted and don't mind the others I got, good event.
>>56070285Pretty much yeah.Don't try to learn it all at once, but it really is just about being sensible what you invest in.Once you've got the one that's worth it, you can generally stop trying to befriend more of the same species (Eevee is an exception).Biscuits and sleep points, too are finite and you have to consider where to spend them.The bulk of the game is your strategy in how to build teams for each island. Pokémon found on one island can be helpful for the next.For example, Larvitar and Pupitar are rock types you can find on Taupe Hollow, where rock/fire/ground type berries are best.Tyranitar however, is a dark type and can be used on Snowdrop Tundra where dark/ice/normal type berries are best.
I don’t need more berries but potatoes… should I level that Geodude despite that?
>>56070308Stick with your current Golem, it's overall better.If you need more potatoes, I recommend getting a Victreebel so you have both a Taupe Hollow and a Lapis Lakeside specialist, and still have two potato farmers.As always with BFS ingredient specialists, this doesn't directly reduce their ability to gather ingredients, but it does make them hit carry capacity faster which requires you to check the game more frequently and does reduce ingredients gathered overnight.However, BFS ingredient specialists with favourite berries ultimately contribute greater strength. A non-BFS Golem only beats a BFS Golem when Sitrus Berries aren't Snorlax's favourite.Potatoes are one of the few ingredients that cannot be gathered on slot 1.The others are mushrooms, leeks, Slowpoke tails.If this ever changes, such new helpers would likely be the best for gathering their respective ingredient.
is this guy good enough to consistently get me tails?
>>56070460There is no reliable way to get Slowpoke tails.Slowbro and Slowking are too slow to justify running. Ingredient Magnet S users and ingredient tickets only give you a shot at getting some extra tails (but it's much better than you'd think).The recommended strategy is to find a Slowpoke with tails at 30 and an EXP gains boosting nature, then to power-level it to 30 just to unlock the ingredient.I've had 1 tail from a Slowpoke, ever, and hundreds from the likes of my Charizard and Blastoise.
>>56070460>>56070476When Suicune comes out, its skill will be able to help you get Tails from Slowbro/Slowking without being slowed down by their low helping speed. Running both of them will also help Suicine's skill since they count as different Pokemon. The main things to look for would be ingredient finding to increase the chance of Tails, and BFS to help make you more useful for the many times you won't get tails.A team of Suicune, Slowbro, Slowking, Feraligatr with Oil, and a Herb specialist like Dragonite can help give you a good team for Cyan whenever you roll Curries or Salads. You could also save up a bunch of Herbs beforehand and run another Water type, or hope that Suicine or another future Water type will be able to supply you with Herbs.
My first cram. Not exceptionally terrible, either.>inb4 big paragraph I won't read about why I'm wrong to say that
>>56070230alternatively, every pokemon you're currently levelling will be replaced, and that xp is wasted, whereas the sleep exp mons will level up their replacements and still give you good score while doing soand given how level 50+ pokemon shit on 30s with favoured bfs, running sleep exp mons to level cap is optimal
>>56070586i would rate this highly if it was 100. speedy, i like triggering tasty chance, good ingredient spread, plus an inventory bonusno bfs is rather unfortunate
That's a big crit... (42 slowpoke tails)
>>56070371CandyDude. Okay what about this Charmander? He’s not as good as my current Charizard even if they are on the same level but that’s without any sub skill seeds. Forgot to make a comparison
>>56070932tard bros…
>>56070827i havent even seen 42 tails yet i believe my charizards retarded
>>56070932The Charmander would only barely gather half of what your current Charizard is doing, which is really bad. You do want an ingredient Pokemon to pick up ingredients, even if it gets BFS. And yours won't even have BFS for a long, long, long time, even if they raised the current level cap of 55.
>>56070520I pondered this scenario of using Slowbro or Slowking (or perhaps both) on a Suicune team.On the assumption you're getting the maximum of 11 helpings from Helper Boost, you'll want maximum ingredient finding rate on your slow pokes, helping speed and anything else is irrelevant.Slowbro has a base ingredient finding rate of 19.64%, maximum of 36.30%.For Slowking, base is 16.55%, maximum is 30.59% (so if you only run one, run Slowbro).At level 30, it's exactly 50/50 whether the ingredient is a cacao pod or a Slowpoke tail.So the effective maximum rate of receiving tails her helping will be up to 18.15% from Slowbro,and 15.30% from Slowking.This means each time Suicune procs, you can expect Slowbro to drop about 2 tails, and Slowing about 1-2 tails.Now, we can't evaluate Suicune right now, so the next best thing is to look at the other Helper Boost users to put further thought into this.A Raikou with an optimal subskill spread and nature is expected to proc at least twice a day at level 30, about 2.5x a day at level 50.So, optimistically, through helper boost procs with a Slowbro and Slowking on your team, you could expect to get maybe 8 tails a day.This isn't including the tails they collect during the day regardless, through high energy management the slow pokes still maybe gather 8 Slowpoke tails individually.So, end result is you're gathering 24 Slowpoke tails a day on average.They have a base strength of 342 before dish strength and area bonus effects, which is potent, but the base contribution is 8,208 strength across two helpers (ignoring berries and cacao).Next we take a look at Ingredient Magnet S usage.
>>56071259An ingredient magnet S user such as Vaporeon can optimally proc about 4.4x times a day.For the example we'll say 30 times a week, procing for 4 or 5 times each day.We'll also say you've unlocked all 16 ingredients, and are running Ingredient Magnet S Lv. 6 on the similar assumption to the Suicune.Each time Ingredient Magnet S Lv. 6 procs, it picks 3 random ingredients and gives you 7 of each (21 total).My math for this isn't great, but the odds of getting Slowpoke tails I guess could be around 5-6?%With 30 procs you'll get 630 ingredients (wow!), 42 of which may be Slowpoke tails, which averages about 6 Slowpoke tails a day. You do however get a shitload of other ingredients.If it's very specifically Slowpoke tails that you want, the Suicine Helper Boost strategy will give you more, but I'm not convinced that it's worth it when you need lots of different ingredients to prepare lots of kinds of dishes.>>56070956During the Entei event, I was running two Charizard (one is BFS, one is Sausage-Max), and Lv. 6 Ingredient Magnet S on both of them gave me crazy numbers of tails.Which was a problem, both weeks were desert weeks, where no recipes using tails.That's down to me preferring to save them for the tail salad, it's the best use of them imo.
>>56070827Jelly, I managed to cook up three Inferno keema corn curries, no crits.That 4.5x boost would've been glorious.
alright everyone, it's time for our favorite questions of the week!>how did your current week go>where are you going next week>what are your goals/what are you hunting
>>56071469>>how did your current week goDecent, I got a nice shiny Caterpie and a promising Mareep, but I only got the one Cramorant encounter (without incense) and didn't get a single Delibird.I'll have to go to Snowdrop to get that Delibird, realistically.>>where are you going next weekLapis Lakeside, my area bonus is just 35% and I'd like to boost that for the upcoming growth week.That event is increasing the candy rewards from the first sleep session of each day, too.>>what are your goals/what are you huntingDelibird, Ralts, Dratini, Cramorant are currently goal Pokémon.Prioritising Ralts and Dratini however.
Did 40x Jiggly candies 15 times and 40x Wobbuffet candies 6 times, using the machine 3 times each day.Normal x1Fire x2 (crit)Electric x1Ice x3 (crit)Poison x1Flying x1Psychic x3Bug x1Steel x1Fairy x7
>>56071469>how did your current week goKind of a boring week, managed to catch my 50th Eevee. One Cramorant sighting.At least the machine gave me a lot of Dragon, Steel type candy>where are you going next weekProbably Cyan beach. Got three 55's on my team for growth week>what are your goals/what are you hunting>short termcatch more Cramorant and a BFS Clefable/Togepii>long termCatch more shiny eevee to capture all shiny eeveelutions in this game.I am not the eevee bro
>>56071338Tail check in (I was the 42 tail poster)
>>56064709I thought two of the biggest things was that caught evos have gimped inventory sizes and don't benefit from skills leveling up from evo. Want to add, I think making an item to pseudo-level pokemon to stage 2 and 3 would also be nice for letting people use lower-stage mons without losses if they prefer those forms.
They patched the Crambot maybe? I put 80 Caterpie candies in today and got two bug types.>>56072282I only have one 'poke with tail on the menu so far, and it's at level 30 so I only invest as I can afford to.
>>56071469>How did your current week goFinished master 11 with only 10% on snowdrop and found exactly what I was hunting here for>Where are you going next weekEither taupe or lapis>What are your goals/what are you huntingAfter this event I realized I sorely need a better sausage farmer so I'm thinking of going to taupe to try and find a good Charmander but other than that Dratini candy would be nice
I would have been happy to use this if it wasn't marred by the Ingredient Finder M...
>>56072996Shid
At least I didn't go dry on sunday crits again
Didn't get a single crit this week, which sucks because I really wanted to level up some of my dishes more for the future. It would be nice if each time you cook without a crit it adds a 2% chance or something to getting a crit next time until you get one, so then you at least have a good chance of getting at least one crit by the end of the week.
>>56071469Event went well, only got 2 crits but the candies were all good regardless. Next week I'm going to Lapis because I really need a good corn farmer and all my corn mons either don't actually get corn at 30 or are bad. For the event I'll probably go to Tundra, not sure.Honestly I'm mostly waiting for the level cap increase, I've been sitting at 55 for a while now and I'm already at 371 sleep styles studied. I hope the anniversary update next month is big.
>>56071469>how did your current week gomeh, not a single good catch this week, though I maxed out the current sleep style goals at least>where are you going next weeklapis, I don't care about progressing anything, just wanna try my luck at ralts and dratini>what are your goals/what are you huntingralts and dratini, that's it, maybe if I crit a biscuit I get something that's probably shit anywaysi'm getting burnt out of the game already because of all the stuff that's difficult enough to catch and when you do, it's complete unusable trash
could this make a good vaporeon?
>>56073426>i'm getting burnt out of the game already because of all the stuff that's difficult enough to catch and when you do, it's complete unusable trashThis, there's no reason to try to catch evolved mons when they are inferior to pre-evos since they won't have a high friendship lv and their skills will be lower leveled than an evolved base mon. So literally no reason to waste biscuits on non shiny evolved mons.
>>56073455Seems pretty mediocre. I’d try to find something better
>>56073455Not really. Few Eevees function well without Berry Finding and the ones that don't, need Skill Trigger M to be even remotely viable. Since Vaporeon is on the skill-focused side of Eeveelutions, if it had Skill Trigger M instead of Inventory Up, I'd say go ahead, but unfortunately it doesn't have anything going for it except Skill Level Up M.
>>56071469>how did my week go?Surprisingly good. Went from M2 to M5 on Snowdrop thanks to the curries. Pretty sure i can get M3 without boosted set meals too.>next weekLL because I wanna see how I can do there.>goalsFinding decent Pokémon and getting a score close to Ultra4
alright everyone, it's time for our favorite questions of the week!>how did your current week goended up with a lot of subpar totodiles>where are you going next weekprobably cyan again, maybe lapis just to change it up>what are your goals/what are you huntinga second toto or squirtleJust got a Sleep EXP, ing finder S, BFS, Inv Up S, Help Speed S totodile, lonely nature.
>>56073754Need friends, Thanks.Researcher ID5057-3702-6482
>>56073966>>56073754Didn't mean to quote
>game errors every time it is about to send me to island select screen>clearing cache didnt fixaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
>>56074407Clear cache in your phone's settings instead of ingame.
I think I finally got one worth investing in
wut
>>56074575What, did you think Dragonite was some 20m menacing kaiju creature?
>>56074550thumbs up emoji
excluding sleep, whats the daily playtime for this?
>>56074904Depends how much you care.If you don't do anything else, then about 10 minutes after you wake up to check your sleep stats + catch any monsThen you add around 15-30 per day for feeding snorlax and collecting stuff three times a dayAnd if you want you can spend another 2 or so opening the game to collect stuff as many times as you want each day.
>>56073526at this point, same species should keep the friendship level, and they need to seriously reduce the amount of pips for catching an evolved mon, something like 10 pips, so that a hungry crit is an instant catchcandies are already for the same speciesif they keep the same level, you still end up with at least a gold guaranteed skill, but less inventory capacityso many annoying mechanics in this game, worse are the long loading screens for ANY window, want to enter your bag? wait 15 secs for it to load
>>56074904>>56074921i'd say like 5-10 mins when you wake up, and you can delay it if you don't want to develop a routine about waking up and staying in bed and bumming around on your phoneI check the app when i piss to collect stuff which takes maybe a minute each time. 3 meals a day, maybe another 10 minutes total. and sending yourself to bed is another minutethe minimum is very low
>>56071469>how did your current week goGood! I got up to Master 9 on Snowdrop for the first time leveling up all my Dream Eater Butter Curries. Got a solid Delibird, and okay Cramorant (mostly for collection purposes)>where are you going next weekCyan>what are your goals/what are you huntingI need a good Totodile and another Slow to evolve into a Bro or King since I have a single good Slow atm. Got a solid Psyduck too but I'd take a better one if it shows.
>>56071469>how did your current week goGot to Master 15 on Cyan after not visiting it for probably 6 months. Previous best was probably around 800k or less. Almost had a BFS Totodile worth using, but it's still got Ingredient Finder, so I'll pass for now. Saw a few Cramorants, but caught none.>where are you going next weekThought Growth Week was going to be this week until a couple days ago, so spending this "free" week on Snowdrop.>what are your goals/what are you huntingHonestly don't know what I went to Snowdrop. I guess build up area bonus? It's my weakest area at 15%. I don't think I'm even really looking for anything to catch.
>>560749041h if you check every now and then.
>>56073426If you're playing this game is causing you any kind of stress, you're doing it wrong. There's no real end goal in this game. There's no competition, no leaderboards, etc. There's only you and how you decide to play.
so i downloaded this last week and i have two questions1. i got a shiny snorlax in cyan beach, is that actually good luck or is that something they do to new players2. what is there to do once youve seen them all
>>56076254>luck but it's pure cosmetic>sleep
>Love Cramorant, really want a shiny>Get fuck all the entire week>some asshole in my friends list got a shiny one on the first day and immediately made it his icon>forced to use Cram and a friend incense on very last day>wake up to 2 normal Crams and the worlds WORST shiny Croconaw>had to use a master biscuit to get my birdGod clearly hates me, was it even worth it?
>>56076670>>56076076
>>56076670Considering Cramorant isn't fantastic at actually gathering ingredients most of the time, the bonus berry is pretty welcome. It really does have next to nothing from its skills, but it's above average on the sole access to BFS.
So what ingredient Pokemon do you use on Snowdrop? I feel like there aren't many on-type candidates so you just have to use whatever. Glaceon is also being less helpful since it doesn't get many ingredients itself, but increases my usual usage rates.
>>56060178Is this worth keeping?
>>56060178How about these? Are these worth investing in?
>>56077538It will take a while to spike, but will be amazing once it does. Definitely go for it, since you likely won't find a better one before you get it to 50 anyway.>>56077544Mareep could use more Skill Triggers since that's where most of its power comes from, but this one is definitely serviceable if you weren't planning to invest the Main Skill Seeds anyway. As for Spheal, the nature brings it down, but it will still be better than most non-BFS Spheal. I would keep looking, but using it wouldn't be bad if you want.
>>56077825What about this one
>>56077455I use 2 Spheal and a Walrein.
>incense reward for Snowdrop is RaticateI really wish I could either just pick whatever's on offer or have them reevaluate the higher research rank incense pools.>>56077936I wish I had a decent Slaking and Walrein... that might actually help smooth out my ingredient problems.
>>56078031>got graveler incense 3 weeks in a row on taupe>just toss them cuz I don't even want the extra roll during "use incense" events
>>56071469>>how did your current week gohit m10 on cyan. last time i was there, i had to tryhard just to hit m0. but now i can comfortably hit master so that's nice. also finally nabbed a bfs pichu and a pretty decent cram (wish it had all oil tho)>where are you goingstaying on cyan. just want a chill week before hitting lapis again to stock up on ingredients>what are your goals/what are you huntingmainly hunting that elusive bfs@10/25 totodile but i'll gladly take more psyducks/slowpoke rolls
If you are about to make a meal, do not collect from your healers. The energy gained from cooking varies and the heal can put you over a threshold that will lower it. the healers give a flat bonus and will still heal the same amount after a meal, if their skill has procced
>>56078476Too much micromanagement for a sleep app.
>>56078476slowpoke anon…
>>56078476It's an unnecessary amount of micro-management for a potential 10 minute energy boost.The devs already fixed it so that meals always recover at least 1 energy even if they're above 80%.
>5 evolved mons and an ekansGood thing I'm trying to conserve my biscuits anyway
dumb question, but my phone dies during the night and i missed a night because of iti just put it on sleep during the day when i was at work to catch up, but have i messed it up? can you "sleep" twice in a day?
>>56079364died* not dies, its not a regular thing
>>56079364Yeah you messed up. You're supposed to use this instead. It would have restored your energy and given you an extra bonus biscuit for next time. What you just did instead is take tonight's sleep early. Which is gonna mess up your sleep tonight and cause it to be a nap.
>>56079413thats annoying, oh well
>>56079427Well at least now you know.
>>56079439to be fair, the autistic way im playing id rather not have two bonus biscuitsall they do is force me to waste time removing a pokemon from my box that i didnt want to catch anyway
What’s the highest amount of candy you own now after the cram-o-mat event?
>>5608011840 bug ones
>>56080118I pretty much exclusively dumped sudowoodo candy for the event. Even if through some fuckboi math it turns out to be a god pokemon, I'm still never using one.
>>56080135>>56080118How does this event even work?
>>56080170The event was last week and has already ended.You put in 40 candies for any species of Pokémon, and you receive a random type candy M which is worth 25 candies.The output is more likely to match what was input, but only a little.There was also a small chance for "great success" and receive two type candy M of the rolled type.You were allowed to use the Cram-o-matic up to 4 times per day, with increasing dream shard costs.First use is 1,000 shards, second is 5,000, third is 15,000, fourth is 40,000.I dare say this thing will come back in the future, like the mini-candy boost does.
Would it be okay if I repost my FC since I only learned two threads ago that there's no reason to be an antisocial autist?And just to verify, the first mon I research and the photo I pick is what's sent to Friends right?
>>56080261yesyes
>>56080261go ahead and post your code, it's not a faux-pas>the photo I pick is what's sent to Friends right?ye
>>56080118I would have dumped x240 more Jigglypuff candies if I thought I could actually use more Fairy-type candies. The chance of a same type candy was higher than I thought it would be (probably up to 40%).
>>56080448Every time...
>>56080448I only got the same type that I put in 1/14 times.
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>>56080745Very nice, especially that skill seed.
I already have a level 6 healer so I think this free main skill seed and those 1000 sleep points for a sub skill seed will be going into this boy here
>>56080956I wouldn't be so quick to burn a main skill speed, although admittedly the Johto starters are surprisingly good with boosted main skills.Sub skill seed though? Certainly.
Even with this amount of helping speed, ditto seems like my weakest team member.
>>56081077Most ingredient types actually suck donkey balls unless they have access to Ingredient Finding M or BFS.In Ditto's case, its base ingredient finding rate seems to be 20%. While that's better than most of the other single-stage ingredient farmers, Ditto is almost like 15-20 minutes slower per help. So your 24% helping speed bonus is basically just enough to put it up to baseline of other ingredient farmers.At least it's not Comfey, which has the lowest rate out of all ingredient farmers (13%). Bewear has almost double the base ingredient finding rate, which is why it's so much better at gathering corn.
i just realized the charizard ive been using since forever, thats always on top of the raenox regardless of favorite berry is a speed of help- nature wtf
I moved to lapis to increase the area bonus, but I'm moving back to snowdrop afterwards.I want to have a dream shard mon, but I don't know if it'll be a waste to invest in lucario regardless of how good its stats are. Is it a waste of time?
>>56081220I used to shit on Lucario, but if you can get an excellent one, it's definitely worth it. Especially since they introduced so many new stardust sinks.Absolute must:>helping speed >skill trigger>skill up natureNot necessary, but nice>Berry finding>helping bonus>sleep exp bonus>research exp bonus (excess research exp is turned to shards)I would say skill level up isn't worth it, if you wait long enough you can save up main skill seeds and use those slots on helpful subskills for the rest of the team. Lucario is very much a team player pokemon, good for weeks where you just want to farm shards and don't care so much about sleep level.
>>56081270How's this one>>56077888
>>56081283not bad, helping speed does affect skill trigger and they'll surely introduce mints at some point. Both helping speeds is excellent
>>56080303>>56080310in that case
>vaporeon only procced once todayworst investment i ever made in this game holy shit
>>56081657Post stats. Even a halfway decent one should do at least 2-3 over a day on the low end.
>>56081761Careful with Research EXP Bonus and Skill Trigger M. Raenonx says it should be getting about 5.25 procs per day, but it's usually just been 2-3 and never more than 4. This is with checking the app every hour or 2, which just feels like a waste of time at this point. And Wiggly procced 4 times so Vaporeon was still above 80% energy for most if not all of the day.
>>56081856its just rng being rude is all. i really don't follow raenonx or anything. somedays you're lucky and others you're not.
>>56081657Skillmons are a scam. They either never activate, or activate a freakish amount. I suppose if you were a big nerd and graphed it, it would average out; but for most things I'd rather a consistent baseline.
>>56081856Raenonx is a bit misleading as its energy timelines are more super-optimistic and minmax'd than they are realistic.>>56082079That's why most skill Pokemon operate better with Berry Finding, because then at least they'll pick up berries.
>>56080956>doesn't have bfs and help bonuswhy would you use a seed on something that doesn't have both?
>>56081856>Raenonx says it should be getting about 5.25 procs per daylike >>56082636 says, raenonx does retarded two sleeps a day shit
>>56082636>berry finding S>inventory fills up quicker>full inventory prevents skill triggersI’d argue that this is less of a problem for mons with bigger inventories, so basically any mon that evolves. Single Stagers will struggle without Inventory Up unless you autistically check the game regularly. Which isn’t all that good of a situation to be in since you’d want skill trigger and helping speed/bonus in the first three slots.
>>56082809Most skill pokemon are not filling up their inventories very quickly even with BFS. At worst, it's usually at least 3 hours before they cap out. The issue mainly comes up when you sleep, since you're unlikely to interact with your pokemon before they reach their inventory cap. But I'd also say it's fine if you don't wake up with a skill trigger unless it's an E4E user. The bonus power throughout the day (and night when you start sneaky snacking) is well worth.
I got a shiny balbasaur on my second night, are shinies relatively common in this?Do they creep in more gameplay elements the more you play?
>>56083410Nah it's just luck. When I started I got a shiny the first night, it took two months for the next shiny to appear.In total after almost sleeping for a year I have a total of 14 shinies.
>>56083410i have 13 out of 354 shinies. so way more common
>>56083713oh, and 4 of those have been in my last 22, so previously I was 9 out of 332. At worst I was at 1 out of 145
Do you people keep every shiny you get? I've gotten my fair share but I think I only kept one, my Magnezone. Every other shiny I got was trash so I released them all.
>>56083946i don't think i've released a single pokemon. maybe one when pressing buttons to find out what it does, but i don't think i went through with it
>what's Naive nature?>3 berries? Sweet, berry finding!>ah...>Ah.
>>56083946I keep every shiny of a new species for the novelty. If I get another, the shittier one is boxed.
>>56084317decent enough to run on snowdrop, and will get you juicier berries sooner thanks the nature. shame about the double ing subskills, and skill down cause the skill is fun
>>56084389Yeah, I wouldn't really mind the first ingredient finder since it's at least S, and the M is out of reach. I'm more concerned about the skill down, since that would have helped with my ingredient problems on Snowdrop.
>>56083946i keep mine cause i assume they'll add the ability to send them to home at some point. if they're shit here, they may be less shit in a different game
>>56085192I keep hoping this gets added and in the list of future updates, I am hoping that addhs is add home support. Will not happen tho >v2407Aniv1year>v240712AddPM>v240715AddHS
>>56081220>>56081283Both are good, go with the shiny one if you want style points.My Lucario procs 3-5 times a day and that gives me about 50k shards a week. I say invest in one when you're trying to raise a team full of mons when they need friendship level to evolve or just have a week gathering shards.
>>56083946the only shinies I have released are sudowoodo and eevee. I hate sudowoodo, and the eevee was exceptionally shit.
>>56083946persian was let go due to being complete shit that no mint would help and its version is shitty too.after that I keep them for box decoration.
>>56083946I recently expanded my pokemon storage space just because I started bumping into my limit. 3/20 are decent enough to be worth using, and I do when possible). Eevee and Bellsprout are the only exact duplicates that I've got. While I have some others of the same line, they were caught at different stages of evolution.
Should I try befriending as many pokemon as possible as a new player?
>>56086081>Should I try befriending as many pokemon as possible as a new player?NOOOOOO.How new are you? I just started playing back in February maybe? I wish someone told me to do what I'm about to tell you. Ignore skill specialist unless it's an Energy For Everyone pokemon. Like Sylveon, Wiggly, or GardeFocus on Berry Specialist and keep hunting for each berry specialist until you find one with berry finder S.Use ingredient mons when you are low on ingredients. Try to get ingredient specialists that you need more ingredients for. Do not attempt to catch fully evolved pokemon unless they're Hungry. Maybe only use 1 biscuit if they're hungry. It's generally not worth trying to catch fully evolved pokemon. Don't worry about using perfect pokemon. Just use whatever is best currently. The goal of this game doesn't seem to be about catching everything but rather seeing everything and you do that by raising your drowsy power/snorelax rating
>>56086143>ignore skill specialtistIgnore this fucking idiot
>>56086081Yes. If you're just, JUST starting out, your priority is to get a full team as soon as possible. Feed pokemon if they spawn with the "hungry" status, but otherwise you should be using at most, 2 Poke biscuits and then a Daily Biscuit to recruit pokemon. Also only go for base stage pokemon, as there's an eventual bonus for catching 10x of a single pokemon species (different evolution stages do NOT count towards this total).Some tried and true useful pokemon to start out with are:Kanto starters (Bulbasaur, Squirtle, Charmander)Johto starters (Chikorita, Cyndaquil, Totodile)Pichu & Igglybuff
>>56086325And caterpie since he evolves quick
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So this is close to theoretically perfect at 100, right? No, the ingredients aren’t all tomatos, there’s definitely leeks. I just can’t show you right now as I’m on a walk and my phone is counting my steps
>really shitty day>forgot to set the app to record my sleep>almost oversleep>realize the shitty day hasn’t stoppedPain
>>56087545>toss phone on bed and get ready for sleep>didn't put snorlax to sleep first, just put my phone down>gotta wait again lest I have 2 hours docked from my timesorry your day was shitty though
>>56087566>>gotta wait again lest I have 2 hours docked from my timeI’m too tired to get this but sorry>sorry your day was shitty thoughBless your heart anon.
>>56087275It’s almost able to be perfect. Two sub skill seeds. I would personally prefer Speed of Help+ but Main Skill Trigger- or Ingredient Finding+ but Main Skill Trigger-
>>56087677if I don't give it at least 20 minutes to think I'm sleeping before climbing into bed, I will invariably get slapped with "you started sleeping an hour and a half - two hours later than you hit 'Sleep', go fuck yourself."
>>56087684Yeah the sub skill seeds make it like 99.9999999999% perfect. And an ingredient reroll so there's leeks. Not saying there isn't leeks, just that an ingredient reroll would maybe make the ingredients better. and no I can't show the ingredients I'm on a flight so my phone is in airplane modeI don't know if I'd prefer a -skill nature, as I presume eventually there'd be no reason to not pump the main skill level up. But that's all not really relevant to what is a nuts diglett. Just gotta wait for 5 years till level 100 is unlocked
subskill reroll when
You should be at the beach to get water incenses for suicune
Went to taupe to try and find at least an AAX Charmander and while this one is ABA it's just too good to not invest in right? (My current lizards do ABC and ABB)
>>56088388>AAX ABA ABC ABBwhat is this fucking sesame street shit? your lizard is ok for one not having bfs, but it doesn't have bfs
>>56088388>>56088419Autismo is talking about ingredients I think.
>>56088435NTA and that's what I thought, but why not SGS, etc
>>56088446SeggsNah probably because ABC is universal.
does logging sleep give you friendship evolution hours?
Not seen anyone use AAA / ABC / etc used to describe ingredient slots before but it makes total sense.Most Pokémon have access to three ingredients, the second kind is exclusive to 2nd/3rd slot and the third kind is exclusive to 3rd slot.Hence that you can have AAA, AAB, AAC, ABA, ABB, ABC, but you can't have BAA, CAA, ACA, etc.Some Pokémon like Croagunk do not a third ingredient.AAX is a good way of saying you need something that focuses on one ingredient.Something to keep in mind about Pokémon that gather a diversity of ingredients, is that when they unlock an ingredient slot it will reduce how frequently they gather their first slot ingredient, as the slots are rolled equally.For example if you have a Milk / Cacao Blastoise, it'll do a worse job of gathering milk once it hits 30.I haven't taken the time to assess this yet, but I'd like to figure if an ABA spread is better or worse than an AAB spread, in terms of ingredient quantities and proportion gathered.
>>56088481gotta sleep with the pokemon in your party
>>56088481Yes, tracking sleep with them in your part is the only way to get accumulated sleep time. You can also get more time than the 8.5hr tracking/point limit, so if you need a friendship evolution, you can somewhat fast track it by "sleeping" extra long or do an extra sleep session.
>>56088923What friendship evos are even worth it currently? I can only think of Pichu and Iggly.
>>56089299umbreon and espeon are definitely NOT worth itlucario is late game
>>56089299Currently there is: Cleffa, Igglybuff, Pichu, Eevee, Togepi, and RioluI'd say they're all worth so long as you have a good subskill/nature set.
>app crashed during sleep two days in a row>cut down to less than 3 hours eachFuck this shit
>>56089690>game just so happened to crash during x2 sleep power>when I was at 16 on greengrassconvenient
I see Sableye and Gulpin have the version of dream shard magnet with a higher range, is this better than the base level one that Lucario and Persian have? I've got a Persian with skill trigger M + skill nature, wondering if I should hold out for a good Gulpin or something.
>>56090159The variable versions of skills have higher average values than the static versions, but it's random. So it depends if you want consistency or want to chase the highs. I believe Persian is currently the worst in terms of skill activations and all the Dream Shard Magnet Pokemon need significant Main Skill Seed investments, so I'd either go for Lucario or Swalot depending on your preference.
>>56090288Aw, really? But look at this skillful boy
>>56090499I mean, that's probably better than a mediocre Lucario or Swalot. Just given all things equal, it falls behind.
This isn't that bad... I think. It's the same price as x3 Great Biscuits normally cost in the shop, plus mainly the Handy Candy M. Growth incense is ok for Good Sleep nights and Dream Shard Clusters are decent, though not exactly sought after.
I have a decent shiny haunter with BFS and shrooms that would greatly benefit if I evolve it, however, I don't like gengar much and feels like I'd waste that shiny. wat do?
>>56091479Turn it into candy.
>>56089690had this happen to me during good sleep day, was very upsetting. think this can be prevented by using the go plus device?
>>56091366as an F2P, I'm holding out for the 1200 diamond water bundle, which will likely have 8 great biscuits and a water stone, if the previous events are something to go off of.
>two crits>see Pichu is lax>inb4 best subskill roll I had in a while>yes>Stufful has a horrible nature>inb4 it’s also good>…Mints… I need them.
>>56091826it's always like this, would be great if the positive and negative were switched
Truly unfortunate that It only finds oil.
>>56092494Consistent Oil from non berry specialists is good.
Usable or too many sausages?
>>56093507Is it? Well that makes me feel better. Might be worth a subskill seed too.
>>56093862It's really good if you want a sausage farmer for Lapis Lakeside, it competes with Charizard as a sausage farmer that can get a bit of corn on the side.If you want a corn farmer though, it's very disappointing in its ability to do so.It's worth keeping for when you do need a sausage farmer at Lapis, anyway.This week I have curries at Lapis Lakeside.My Victreebel gathers tomatoes and potatoes, and my Blastoise gathers milk and cacao, and that lets me somewhat consistently make Dream Eater Butter Curry.The numbers are a problem though.The butter curry needs 18 potatoes, 15 tomatoes, 12 cacao, 10 milk.Victreebel gathers 4 potatoes at a time, 2 tomatoes at a time.Blastoise gathers 3 cacao at a time, 2 milk at a time.I'm typically never short on potatoes or cacao; it's tomatoes and milk that I'm usually short on, and it makes me want to have a tomato focused Victreebel and milk focused Blastoise to address this. Mr. Mime would also work for tomatoes at Lapis Lakeside, but the Squirtle family is the best choice for milk.Point is you will probably end up wanting to run two of the same ingredient specialist because there are pros and cons to single or multi-ingredient gatherers, but being able to switch them will help a lot.
>>56093862I'd think the only reason you would ever want to use Stufful is to gather corn, so it'd be Corn/Corn/Corn, Corn/Corn/Eggs, or least desirably but still usable Corn/Corn/Sausage. Charizard is already capable of dumping tons of Sausages, not to mention the wide variety of other pokemon that can also produce those for you, so getting Sausages is a bit of a waste.
>>56093895Cramorant is the second best oil gatherer behind Toxicroak, but it has that Tasty Chance main skill to set it apart.It's a solid pick for Cyan Beach, whereas there's no poison island yet.
>>56093913Sausages are needed for Inferno Corn Keema Curry, which also needs fiery herbs, corn, and ginger. That's a good niche for a Bewear to have but yeah I would argue Corn/Sausage/Sausage is maybe the worst spread for it if you can only run one.Corn/Corn/Sausage or Corn/Sausage/Corn would work better, with a preference to the first with the current level 55 cap.Sausage is also used for Gluttony Potato Salad, and Contrary Chocolate Ham Salad.They're useless on desserts weeks though, pure filler.
>>56093915Well shit, I guess it was even better than I thought, awesome!
>>56093962Pure Oil is also one of the best ingredients, a reasonably good strength but used in a ton of salads, and one of the best desserts.Only used in one weak curry though.
>>56093984I have salads this week, and it's the one I'm best with. I'm not great with desserts, so help there is always appreciated too
What are the best mushroom, potato, or leek farmers?
>>56094340me
Didn't realize that Walrein evolved at level 33, but it's probably going to save my ass and at least let me get the shitty Raticate incense on Snowdrop this week. I have a Glaceon and Umbreon, but I can't reliably run them since I kept running out of ingredients. Suppose it doesn't help I'm also trying to train up a Dragonair at the moment either.>>56094340Mushroom: GengarPotato: Golem, though Victreebel is comparable and its base ingredient is more broadly useful.Leek: Dugtrio, but you can also use a Ditto if you're lucky.
>>56094340Mushrooms the best is Gengar, though you definitely want lots of ing up on it as gengars base ingredient rate is really lowPotato is gonna be victreebel or golem, mr mime also works but suffers from lower inventory space due to less evosLeeks ATM are only obtainable from dugtrio and ditto, although a lot of mons get leeks at 60
>>56094340Raenonx has a handy overview of best ingredient farmers at different levels.It only shows base gathering rates before subskills and natures (it paywalls that), although with a needlessly min-maxed optimistic outlook involving two sleeps a day.Anyway best at 30 are:>Mushroom - Gengar>Potato - Golem and Victreebel>Leek - DugtrioThese ingredients are among the hardest to farm though, beaten only by Slowpoke tails.
>>56094340>>56094571Now the best for 60 on the other hand:>Mushroom - Still Gengar, but Abomasnow works too>Potato - Still Golem and Victreebel>Leek - Still Dugtrio, but Victreebel becomes viable (and a shitload of other things get leeks too)Forgot to mention that Mr. Mime happens to have the same ingredient spread as a Victreebel, making them both suitable choices for Lapis Lakeside. Victreebel works better though due to having a two stage evolution and stronger berries.At 60, Tyranitar and Dragonite are absolute beasts at gathering ginger/herbs. Ginger just cannot compare to spicy herbs though.
>>56080771 (Me)still got 3 slots, dont care what rank you are so long as you play most days for awhile. just want full friends list. i play daily btw.
>>56094600>Blastoise starts gathering enough Cacao to overtake Absol’s full 3 slots of Cacao plus higher ingredient quantity multiplier>Dragonite becomes a top Oil farmer despite having only a single slot for it>Bewear also competes relatively decently for eggs despite only the single slot, which it gathers on top of its ~50 corn
Earlier in the week, I had accidentally built my team almost entirely with Charge Energy users: Altaria (berry carry), Victreebel (salad ingredients), Dragonair (training), and Raticate (berry carry). I even had Gardevoir on the team at some point, since I was trying to get her Sleep EXP too.
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>>56097102:V
>wake up to 3* and 4* toxicroakI wish they were close enough to be in one picture. It was pretty comical to see them just chilling amongst the not evolved pokemon like a couple of ruffians.
At least I got a Spheal with an early BFS.. even if it does have both Ingredient Finders. The Totodile is in a similar situation, but I don't actually need to train it yet.
>>56098621Why are you looking at Pokémon asses?
>>56094346What's your help speed?
>>56080771still got one more slot. im not anal about how much you play, only people i have removed were 7+ days offline.
Would a ticket be worth it for the next week?It's just exp/candy up, right?
>>56101208technically it impacts your snorlax power and also just adds an extra spawn every day regardless. it doesnt sound too amazing for just powerleveling even one extra set, but the candy amounts might be pretty nuts if you also have species incense for every night since then you're basically getting an extra two all week which is almost like 1-2 days of more spawns (could be wrong but that's how it seems to me, still probably won't use a ticket until i am much higher rank).
>>56101292Yeah, I'll wait and see what new water type we get before Suicune. If it seems cool, I might use it for that.
Been playing since launch and I still haven't unlocked leeks.
>>56101725They're kinda not worth the effort. They're a pain to gather in the first place, and they're used in (admittedly good) dishes that need ingredients that don't synergize too well with other ingredient gatherers.They work best on Taupe Hollow where you can set up a Dugtrio that gathers tomatoes and leeks (and beans at 60), and can run a Typhlosion that gathers ginger and herbs. This will let you make Spicy Leek Curry fairly regularly.Ninja Curry and Ninja Salad needing mushrooms, there's no way around that you gotta add a Gengar.Leeks are the worst ingredient to gather that aren't Slowpoke tails. I unlocked them using a ditto with a single Leek drop and the rest I've ever collected have been from ingredient magnet S or tickets.For some reason, ingredient magnet/tickets seem far more likely to give me Slowpoke tails than leeks.
>>56101725ignore raenonxscreenshotwhentalkingaboutgatheringingredientsschizo, leeks are the second strongest ingredient and worth unlocking
>>56101977I never said they weren't worth unlocking, I was saying they're a pain to work with.That'll change when level 60 is unlocked. Victreebel becomes a great Leeks gatherer, and lots of other things unlock leeks too.Leeks are very much going to be an end-game ingredient. I'd recommend focusing on dishes that you're able to make more consistently during the week so you can get their recipe level nice and high.At level 41, recipes are double their original strength.This week I've had curries, and my team of Victreebel (Tomatoes/Potatoes/Leeks) and Blastoise (Milk/Cacao/Cacao) have been a great help at making Dream Eater Butter Curry at least once a day, sometimes twice.If I had a dedicated tomato or milk farmer, I could do that more often.If you can make dishes with a +48%, +35% or +25% base strength consistently, you'll do a lot better than making dishes that only have +17% or +11% base strength.Leeks are currently not needed for any of the +48% dishes, only for +35% and +25%. Corn is commonly needed for most of the best dishes, and is a far easier ingredient to farm with a good Bewear, and lots of other things unlocking corn at 30 like Ralts, Dratini, Comfei, and Vulpix.
>>56101208You can theoretically increase your candy gains by using a ticket, but not your sleep EXP gains.The ticket is basically a Snorlax strength multiplier with +1 Pokémon spawn and 1 guaranteed hungry spawn.Higher DP gives you rarer sleep styles more often which award more candies, which'll be much higher thanks to the 1.5x candy multiplier.Personally, I won't be using the ticket as they're much better used on weeks with a chase Pokémon, like the upcoming Water Week and Suicune events.Tickets are limited even on premium, getting just one a month, so considerate use of them counts and I don't think growth week is the right time for it.
>>56102081Yeah, I wonder what water Type we'll be getting, though
>>56102421It's the most common typing in Pokémon, but they'll probably go for cute picks.I can see the Poliwag, Wooper, Marill or Buizel families being a likely pick, Ducklett and Lotad might have a chance too.Poliwag I can see being the likeliest candidate because it has two evolution branches that both require items; Water Stone for Poliwrath, or Kings Rock + Linking Cable for Politoed.On the other hand, it's more work to add such a family because it's 4 Pokémon with 3 unique sleep styles each, and all the accompanying animations.
>>56102445>poliwag Don't forget Gen1 favoritism
>>56102053>That'll change when level 60 is unlocked. Victreebel becomes a great Leeks gathererI would rather use a Dugtrio who drops Leaks two-thirds of the time than a Victreebel who only has a one-third chance for it. It feels bad enough with the 50% chance we currently have, so I can't imagine relying on even lower odds for getting any ingredients I need.
I forgot to finish the sleep session when I woke up so the app "slept" for many hours, it must have crashed because the app was closed when I looked at my phone. The weird thing is I found a new Pokemon in my box despite me not catching anything. Is this fella any good?
I am so happy
>>56102445I didn't consider lotad but now I can't express how badly I want a shiny ludicolo in sleep. Probably gonna do a little shimmy while sleeping
It's the last day of the month.Spend your sleep points before stock refreshes.>>56102798It's superb, only maybe leeks @60 might've improved it but cacao is great too.Definitely worth a nature mint if they ever give us those.
>>56102617Very fast, but mediocre. An ingredient pokemon without Ingredient Finding M actually feels pretty bad since it ends up only picking up single berries most of the time. And the reason why you ended up with a "free" pokemon is that the game automatically gives your Daily Biscuit to a random pokemon in your first sleep session of the day. So if you try not to use it or I guess if you overwrite the feeding session, it could potentially catch a pokemon.
>>56102445I hope the next water is either the Pikablu or Poliwag family, and I hope they have E4A as their skill.
Ready for the gains. The 5th pokemon has sleep exp at 25, so I'm probably gonna get there by Tuesday
If sounds don't matter why include them when tracking with your phone? the go++ doesn't have a mic
>>56103659They probably don't transmit the actual audio, but they probably measure the volume and associate it with the motion measurements for their studies.
the studies dont work for me, is that common? i dont care, im just curious
>>56103439What is the point of running that many Sleep EXP Pokemon? Surely that EXP could be going to better places.I have 2 Pokemon with Sleep EXP and both are level 50. And the one I'm going to use during the boosted week is level 55, so it will convert to Handy Candy on top of it actually having good skills besides that.
>>56103788Yeah, I recommend that you only run the Sleep EXP Bonus Pokémon if it's one you'd actually run on your team regardless.You can have either 5x100 EXP going to useful Pokémon, or 4x114 EXP (456) going to useful Pokémon with some being wasted on the bonus user.You deprive your team of 44 EXP overall.
>can reach Master 4 without the use of a ticket on Snowdrop nowFeels good man.Now if I can only reach Master 3 on Lapis. I would love to collect those Ralts inscences. I'll think I'll go with full BFS favored berry mons plus Gardevoir.
>go cyan to get water incense>get the 1/3 eevee incensesad
>>56104337Barely made it to Master 3 myself, but my bonus is only 15% on Snowdrop.
Usable at least?
>>56105117It takes like 500 candies to get to a level 30 Dragonair and over 1,000 to become a Dragonite. Do you really want to spend that much candy (and shards) on just "usable"? Judging this Dratini for what it is, it's incredibly underwhelming. There are few combinations I'd say are worth going for, and they all involve at least rank M subskills.By level 25, you want a combination of: Ingredient Finder M, Helping Speed M, or Berry Finding S. To a lesser degree, Helping Bonus, Inventory Up L, and Ingredient Finder S if you already have the M version in the other slot. For natures, you want Speed of help or Ingredient Finding up, with absolutely no helping speed down, EXP down, or probably even ingredient down (even if you have berry finding). Given the massive resource investment involved, I would be hesitant to train up anything but "really good".
>>56102501Victreebel absolutely shits on Dugtrio though.Whilst the Dugtrio can gather marginally more leeks, it gathers far fewer ingredients overall.
>>56105100mine was 40%.I must be doing something wrong here.
Had to dig through my box to find mons for growth week and found this guy! Is BFS good on a skill pokemon?Going to cyan again this week to boost my water types a bit more. Where is everyone else going?
>>56106205If only Helping Speed S was Inventory M/L to help with the Apple gathering. To me, that's the perfect Psyduck.
I know it'd be better with bfs@10, but as an f2player this is looking pretty solid
>>56106255That's very solid yeah, Ingredient Magnet S Lv. 5 is going to be very kind to you.That Squirtle won't really take off until level 75 though, has it has no all important ingredient finding boosts before then.Due to how Skill Trigger M is a multiplier on a base skill trigger rate, and it's not a particularly high rate to start with, the effect isn't all that significant and makes it a bit of a red herring.
Should I even bother?
>>56106492Yeah, anon, it's a pretty damn good gator. If you ever find yourself with too many ingredients, just leave it without collecting anything, it actually gets stronger that way.
>>56106492Perhaps.Whilst ingredient boosting nature is detrimental, BFS over-compensates for that penalty. Compare it to something with a neutral nature and no BFS.It's a prime candidate for a nature mint.
So where is everyone planted for Growth week?I'm on Lapis hoping to get more Dratinin and Ralts candies. Maybe pick myself up a good Stufful while I'm here.Also I thought there would be extra weekly missions, but I apparently not.
>>56106918Also Lapis.My area bonus is only 40% there, not 60% like at Greengrass and Cyan Beach.Lapis has the best spawns to actually want to farm candy for, like Dratini, Ralts, Stufful, but also the common pool is better than other islands.I rolled desserts this week and I've been too long without a dedicated milk farmer, so I just powered up a third Blastoise for that role.The other two are milk/cacao, and one being a BFS shiny.
>>56106918I'm on Tundra, it's my lowest area bonus and I'm trying to upgrade my Houndoom since it has BFS and Helping Bonus.
>got a shiny 4 star cubone>it's shitstill going to use it because it's shiny
I finally unlocked lapis yay
>>56108192gj anon. i hope you get a pretty good mon from there as a welcome gift.
>>56108192Ironically it's probably easier to build a team for Lapis than Snowdrop.
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