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Can be about any topic (games, anime, TCG etc.)
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Meganium gets too much hate.
>Verification not required.
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>>56093997
Every controversial opinion has been said atleast once and through the echo chamber have lost their meanings. Anything is always controversial in someone's eye.
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>>56093997
>What are your controversial opinions about the Pokémon franchise?
Competitive Pokemon peaked with Generation III.

The best Pokemon games are ordered:
Hoenn > Sinnoh > Kanto > Johto
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>>56094003
Meganium doesn't get any hate. It gets pity.
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>>56094003
It's all from people that don't play the games.
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>>56094026
I doubt that. I'm sure its reputation would honestly improve if people hadn't tried to use it only to find out its a supportmon instead of a "cool" sweeper.
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>>56094020
>Meganium doesn't get any hate.
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>>56093997
The protagonist wank in the games is getting especially egregious, we need more moments where the player gets humbled
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>>56094020
/Thread
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>>56094044
that's a troll and you got worked
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>>56094031
>its a supportmon
Keep in mind that Game Freak is the same shitty developer that actively cucks Meganium from fulfilling that role because they're too much of a SMOLL INDU COMPANU to give a fuck about Meganium. Like I don't know... taking away Aromatherapy from SV altogether and not replacing said move with literally anything else? Also Leaf """Guard""" can go fuck itself and die.
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>>56094003
Meganium is for edgelords
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>>56093997
This retard looks hideous
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>>56093997
forced exp share is objectively a good thing
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>>56094075
Leaf Guard just needed to be active at all times without Sun.
Gholdengo gets that and more.
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>>56093997
Platinum is better than HGSS
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>>56093997
The DS era was the low point of the franchise. Gen 6-9 are all better than Gen 4-5. Sinnoh is the worst region. Unova has the worst Pokemon designs (worst starters & legends of all time, particularly).
Pokemania boomer who has played every generation at release btw.
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Is it controversial to say that I think most third party developers have a better grasp on what makes the pokemon world so magical compared to GF or is that a pretty accepted line of thinking?
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>>56094191
That's no longer a controversial opinion, and I'd say it's become the accepted default.
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>>56094241
I don't think that's supportable even restricting reference to Gen III & Gen IV. It wouldn't be more than par.
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>>56093997
EVs and IVs are both flawed to their core and need urgent redesigning
breeding also needs a redesign, how did game freak made eugenics unfun is beyond me
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>>56093997
I do not mind the elemental monkeys. Sure, they're not my favorites and the games giving you what's essentially a second starter is silly, but I don't think they're the godless abominations other people make them out to be.
To me, they just... exist.
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>>56094172
And Leaf Guard should HEAL status conditions at the end of every turn, NOT prevent them altogether. Meganium with Leaf Guard is legitimately unable to use Rest under Sun because of that.
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>>56094321
>but I don't think they're the godless abominations other people make them out to be.
Surprise surprise, the Pokemon community is prone to overblowing shit out of proportions.
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>>56094230
>Pokemania boomer who has played every generation at release btw.
You may think your seniority demonstrates you have wisdom but it just shows that you have Poke-dementia
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>>56094735
Poke-dementia just raises my EV gain.
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>>56093997
Smaller regional Pokedexes are better than the retardedly huge ones we've got from Gen 6 onwards. 200+ mons is the sweet spot
If Sun and Moon had all the extra features and side content USUM introduced without the retarded changes to the plot they would widely be considered one of the best mainline entries
A Gray version with B2W2's new features and extra content would have been better
Kanto is an extremely well designed region that just needs a bit more variety in its environments
The Johto games have a better level curve than any game with the modern Exp. Share
Shiny Pokemon are almost always worse looking than the base designs
Vanillite and Trubbish lines are genuinely good designs
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>>56093997
Pokemon anime should drop the character focus and battles and make some kind of documentary about wild Pokemon lives, because battles are always biased by the writers, and MCs with no personality or actual stories are just lame.
No, wanting to fuck a pokegirl doesn't mean the anime is good or fun to watch.
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>>56094075
>meganium is an ingame supportmon
Retards.
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>>56094004
That’s not how controversy works
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>>56093997
Doubles fucking suck and I’m glad they’re never going to be the main format. If you continue to cry about difficulty, go play VGC or a ROM Hack.
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>>56094868
>meganium is an ingame supportmon
Let me guess, you're now going to say there's no such thing as a "physical" or "special" attacker in attempt to mimic yawnfag.
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>>56093997
I think Scyther's head isn't that appealing; to me it has a horse face stuck on a bug's body.
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>>56094808
>battles are always biased by the writers
TSMS
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>>56094998
No one knows who your gay bogeyman is. You're just a retard that thinks dual base 80 offenses and some of the best moves in the game can't sweep every battle, it's not any more than that.
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>>56095009
The one mon improved by Johto's "everything must be a cute rounded marketable plushie" design ethos.
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>>56093997
Serperior is the most popular snake because it has a mammalian head.
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>>56096298
Which one are you?
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>>56096298
So what, you're just going down the catalog hitting every thread?

>>56096399
>at least one of them is a troon
big if true
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>>56093997
TPCi is getting woke-er every year.
>verification not required.
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>>56096439
You think that's controversial? I'm pretty sure anyone would agree with that regardless of what side of the aisle they were on, ever since we moved to the FROMslop method of Body Type 1 and 2.
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>>56096535
>FROMslop method of Body Type 1 and 2
Pokemon X/Y did that before
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>>56093997
Game Freak is full of weak beta nips who are too scared to make an actual mature rated pokemon game with sex and blood and whetever else in it because they took the big blackrock money up their ass and got buckbroken into obedience. And this is despite the world starting to ditch the bipedal empty egg carton monkeys they hate dealing with on a daily basis and instead wanting to fuck literally anything that's not even a human, even wanting to fuck fictional animals, ayy lmaos, their cars and even dead corpses! Most people are also completely numb to violence and gore no matter how bloodbath and beyond it gets, and if sites like bestgore don't even phase them, I don't think the deep web snuff videos will either!
So what's the holdup Game Freak? Why won't you make a pokemon game for your adult fans despite the world becoming the weimar republic? I wanna shred another trainer and paint their walls red, and I wanna rape my pokemon and other trainers so my pokemon will lay an egg I can then use as ammo to humiliate the trainer I raped and traumatize my pokemon with betrayal at the same time! I wanna be the biggest crime lord in all pokemon regions!
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>>56096439
Brainlet take
>>56096544
Edgelord
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>>56096543
nope
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>>56096617
You have a brain of an ant
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old tcg art is way better than the newer tcg art
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>>56093997
Gen 9 was good.
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>>56093997
Porygon literally did nothing wrong.
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>>56097084
>Ash, Pikachu, and Bulbasaur weren't affected
Japanese children are just weak
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Double battles are good and Triple Battles are even better.
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>>56094296
EVs are IVs done right. They are much easier to customize in most games than IVs. EVs are also more balanced. You can't just dump 252 on all stats. Only two stats can be maxed out and if you want other stats to have them then you need to sacrifice EVs on the other stats. I don't understand why anybody would hate both at the same time. EVs are fine the way they are and only IVs are bad
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>>56095061
>everything must be a cute rounded marketable plushie
yeah, Typhlosion, Feraligatr, Crobat, Steelix, Tyranitar, the beast trio, Donphan, Ursaring, Skarmory, Houndoom, Forretress, Kingdra, Stantler, Sneasel, Ariados, Gligar and so on are clearly supposed to be cute rounded marketable plushie designs
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>>56097487
the implementation of EVs is still fucking retarded. Why the fuck is it even 252 instead of 63 with a simple transparent stat allocation system?
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Having double battles be the default in game would fix the issues the games have with depth and ease; it's very obvious having a second pokemon on the field is better for the game in terms of entertainment and balance.
We don't even have a battle mansion/tree anymore which means there's straight up nothing to do but get online once you complete the story content. I'd be playing BDO if I wanted endless pvp as the post game content.
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>>56093997
I liked HMs, they made sense in terms of world building because if you had pokemon in real life you would use them for traversal and they linked the overworld to your pokemon party.
I also didn't mind that it made use a water & flying type on each team.

although I will admit 8 is too much.
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doubles are a meme
>>56097487
EVs are shit because you have no way of knowing yields without a guide
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>>56093997
The entire Pokédex should only ever be cutemon, and waifumon. “Cool” is entirely wasted on this franchise. Design focus should only be on the aspects this franchise excels at, cute and sexy cute.
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there should be an objectmon starter
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>>56097907
>what's Chikorita
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>>56097864
HMs should be forgettable if they're not in use.
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>>56093997
Smogon formats on Pokemon Showdown are unironically the best way to play Pokemon after 2012.
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>56098077
>omgon
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>>56094868
It's worse at supporting your team in game than most other Pokemon are. Fucking LEDIAN is better than it since Ledian gets early dual screens, agility, baton pass, toxic, thief, substitute, and in the Gen 4 remakes it also gets silver wind - which lets it pass an omni-boost - sunny day, swagger, swords dance, and tailwind.

Your gay leaf giraffe is outclassed by fucking LEDIAN. Kill yourself.
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>>56093997
Fairy type is a net-negative on the franchise and we'd be better off if it were removed entirely.
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>>56097777
Doubles unironically has less depth since the battles end far sooner and you can deal with threats in uncreative ways like double targetting or using Fake Out into the opposing threat. In singles, you have to come up with creative solutions to problems that can stick around for much, much longer.
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>>56098099
Excellent literacy skills on display here.
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>>56098083
He's right THOUGH
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>>56093997
Cutscenes aren't inherently bad, GF's story/characters are just boring shit nobody wants to pay attention to.
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>>56098151
I enjoyed the story in SV but no other game prior to that. I didn't mind the cutscenes there
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>>56098151
People don't complain about cutscenes in other JRPGs because those series have good writing. Pokemon has never had good writing, only barely passable writing at best, so cutscenes are hated specifically in Pokemon games.
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>>56098164
Most JRPGs with good stories in the past 20 years also allow us to skip or fast forward them for replays or people who don't want to bother. Pokemon has neither the worthwhile story nor the ability to skip the cutscenes.
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>>56098256
That's one of the main reasons people hate story in Pokemon games. It's terribly written and also you can't just ignore it. People look back more fondly on the games without story because the story just makes the games worse.
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I like Pokemon
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>>56098302
Bad taste.
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>>56098302
kill yourself
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>>56098128
Smoggy cope.
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>>56098302
I didn't know it was possible to have wrong opinions before today.
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>>56097502
Sorry anon, GF is on record saying gen 2 deliberately tried to make everything cute and marketable, Gen 3's style was a deliberate correction to that approach. A lot of those mons you mentioned as "counterexamples" are a lot cuter, blobbier and safer looking than genwun counterparts, like Crobat, Kingdra and Typhlosion anyway.
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>>56098455
>GF is on record saying gen 2 deliberately tried to make everything cute and marketable
well i think they're full of shit. it wouldn't be the only time they lied about something
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>>56099380
>chikorita line compared to bulbasaur
>cyndaquil line compared to charmander
>hoothoot compared to pidgey/spearow
>sentret compared to ratata
>sudowoodo compared to any gen 1 rock type
>porygon2 compared to porygon (yeah i know "improved graphics" but the beta version was literally a cuddly spherical lion)
>kingdra vs seadra
>scizor vs scyther
>hoppip line vs bellsprout line
>bellossom vs stinky vileplume
>politoed vs poliwrath
>ampharos
>mantine, chinchou, wooper vs any genwun water not named seel
>hitmontop vs chan and lee
>baby Pokemon as a whole are like seven more examples by themselves
I dunno man, the proof is in the pudding here. Yeah, gen 2 wasn't exclusively cute blobs, the legends are definitely rad as hell and Feraligatr is about as aggro as Blastoise designwise, but there's a LOT of it.
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The games were never good, we just adapted and became attached to them
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>>56093997
Every game should have a cameo Cynthia appearance.
It’s no coincidence all the best games in the series have her, or her ancestor, in them.
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>>56093997
There's no lore between pokemon games.
Each generation should be treated as it's own timeline and universe because pokemon is incapable of making something consistent.

So pokemon shrink and become energy/data at the same time.
There's only 151 and over 1000 at the same time. All these comments are correct.

Next would be, EV/IV are stupid and should just be available as a stat distribution in game.
Ev's should be rewarded by leveling up your pokemon to put in wherever you like.
IV should be bonus stat points for using your pokemon.
The constant puppymill of pokemon to get the perfect ev/iv stats goes against the nature of making little monster friends.
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>>56101668
Especially since gen 3 and gen 5 were both envisioned as reboots.
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>>56101706
Exactly, It's annoying when people insist on an idea in pokemon when there's no actual answer to anything.

The lore is in 3 categories.
The game (differs per game)
The anime (movies are their own thing)
And the Manga (probably the most consistent outside of side mangas)
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>>56101732
>manga
>consistent
lol you wish. mangas in the end, draws plot points from the games so if the games are inconsistent, so are mangas
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>>56101706
Gen 5 doesn't actually reboot anything but Gen 3 did by cutting off the older games and introducing the remakes concept
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“postgame” is a fucking meme and both bw2 and platinum would be massively better if their “””postgame””” content was just in the campaign instead

kanto, hoenn, and even kalos to some degree basically had the right idea of not having any postgame routes and just making the region massively explorable instead of filling the game with a bunch of roadblocks and shitty repetitive encounters just to lock off pokemon for postgame gimmicks.
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>>56093997
May should've ended up kidnapped by the two guys after she left Ash and ended up being sold to a pokemon brothel.
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>>56093997
The best way to handle TM's is to have them be breakable, but all of them be available for purchase postgame. This way your choices still matter but you don't have to use a whole other game just to kit out a 'mon.
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>>56102282
Didn't SV pretty much do that?
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>>56098455
That was just them throwing Johto under the bus to make HOENNNNNN look good, they’ve always hated Johto on some levels for being sequel and not “stand-alone” like every other region
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>>56093997
Gen5 has become extremely overrated and it doesn't even deserve it.
N and QoLs like infinite TMs are among its few redeeming qualities.
Unova is a boring region, the OST isn't even that memorable minus a few pieces like Emotion (XY soundtrack is SO MUCH better), the rivals are extremely annoying and the ones that initiate the issue of key characters stopping you every few steps to force you to continue the plot and try SO HARD to seem like they are interesting characters but they are in fact just annoying, overdone tropes and I hate how badly the game begs you to see them as your best pals. No they aren't, they're insufferable.

The game is filled to the brim with walls of text every time they force you to witness pieces of the plot, and often times what they say is extremely redundant anyway and everyone seems to take themselves way too seriously.
The walls of text problem is made worse by the lack of proper cutscenes that can at least distract your eyes a little instead of having to go through lines over lines of crowded text boxes.

The overworld NPCs look a little weird and I personally prefer the Gen4 pixel art style especially when it comes to overworld human characters.
Design-wise, many Gen5 Pokemon aren't solid enough to make you forget about the previous 4 generations, and the parallels between some of them and KANTOOO Pokemon just makes the fact that old mons are locked behind post-game all the more frustrating.

XY is sadly rushed, but its aesthetic, art style, OST, Dex and plot premise (albeit poorly executed) is far more interesting than BW's, and Kalos is so much more beautiful than Unova, albeit emptier.

It's funny how N, an undoubtedly great character, somehow manages to carry the game so well that most people get excited enough about his involvement in the plot to forget all of the other garbage-y traits of BW.

Either way, Ghetsis is just a better explored, drama queen and verbose version of Giovanni.
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pokemon don't lay eggs, eggs are not actually eggs and are more like "cradles"

legendary pokemon have genders but we don't know them, they are not genderless
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>>56102373
>legendary pokemon have genders but we don't know them, they are not genderless
That's only half correct. Some legendary Pokémon DO have genders, some do not. However, even the Pokémon with genders have the "No Eggs Discovered" egg ground, which does NOT mean that they can't reproduce, we just don't know how.
There's also non-legendary genderless Pokémon that CAN reproduce, the "Gender Unknown" egg group that Pokémon like Magnemite belong to.
So in other words, there are NO genderless Pokémon no matter if they're legendary or not, we just don't know their genders. And Legendary Pokémon CAN reproduce with whatever their gender is (even if it's just male and female), but we don't know how. That's all canon.
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>>56102405
>egg ground
Lol
*egg group
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>>56100429
How is kingdra cute? He looks more menacing than sea
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>>56102373
That was an established fact, just like how Pokeballs force Pokemon to shrink. It wasn't your personal opinion.
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>>56093997
I always forget my controversial opinions whenever a thread finally comes up to share them
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>>56102304
In one of the worst ways possible along with TRs.
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>>56094808
>cutesy mascot faces off against big scary cool mon
>cool mon always loses
zzz why bother watching Piplup vs Metagross when I know Piplup is going to dodge every attack and use ugly CGI bubbles to oneshot it in a massive explosion?
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Pokemon has enjoyable world building. I like talking to every NPC and trainer I come across and reading abandoned notes.

It's the main story that's putrid shit. Friendly rivals with parental issues and schizo villains that want to revive gods are so boring.
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>>56102341
>Gen5 has become extremely overrated
you had better be a zoomer discussing your own generation's perception
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>>56102405
>So in other words, there are NO genderless Pokémon no matter if they're legendary or not, we just don't know their genders
That's not how gender works
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>>56102570
If there was a species with no sexual dimorphism nor have we ever seen them breed, you wouldn't know how to classify it either.
Not that it matters. Gender and egg groups are gameplay mechanics first and foremost.
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Pokémon are inherently nothing, they're like jingly keys to a toddler. Their mere existence adds practically nothing. Pokédex entries are flavor text. They all accomplish the same general thing of winning battles, which makes them interchangeable. The battle system itself isn't particularly amazing. What elevated them are the ways in which the games were designed around obtaining them. Whatever caused you to interact with the game differently, to come up with strategies of finding and catching them, that was what Pokémon did well.

Anytime as many Pokémon as possible are made available as soon as possible, I stop caring. Wow, so I can have 52 Pokémon before the first Gym in Gen XY, what a great game. And most of them are the same standard grass encounter, what a blast, this is definitely not lazy.
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>>56100429
>feraligatr is cool
Opinion discarded.
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>>56102459
What? How?
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>>56102655
Autism. Go play microsoft excel instead.
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>>56102655
This is why I think Gen 5 is the worst gen. Basically all of its encounters are generic random encounters. They put zero effort into making finding the Pokemon interesting.

The game is so bland with its encounters it doesn’t even give you a fucking fishing rod until postgame.
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>>56093997
IVs are just bad game design. Pokémon would be better off as a whole without them.
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>>56102669
Anon wants the opposite of Excel.
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outside of the few that don’t evolve until level 50 or higher, unova’s high evolution levels are a nonissue and pokemon in general should evolve at higher levels.
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The games are largely shit and haven't gotten any major overhauls outside of minor QOL. I stay for porn and good rom hacks
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>>56102341
mucho texto
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>>56102570
Are you confusing sex and gender perhaps? In Pokémon, they are used interchangeably because they don't want to use the word "sex" in a children's game even if that'd be the scientifically correct term to use there.
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Linear hallways are needed to make Pokémon good again
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>>56102774
Pokémon was good before linear hallways
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>>56096652
There was absolutely a mandate put into place at some point that limits how artists can express pokemon on tcg art.
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>>56102692
Sex and gender were always interchangable terms meaning the same thing. People with mental disorders have bastardized the concept of gender in the past 30 or so years.
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>>56102924
They were used interchangeably in the awful past. Not anymore, now they have their own meanings. Language changes, new words and meanings are devised, people become smarter.
There is no pride in being anti-intellectual.
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>56102970
>t.
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>>56097576
So you don't max out by the second gym. That said I don't like how EVs can be "wasted" if they're not divisible by 4.
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>>56094321
I feel Simisear gets so much shit just because it placed last in that popularity poll and people called it the "most hated Pokémon", which it isn't. Coming last in a popularity poll just means it had the least amount of people say it was their favourite, that's different from most hated. Pokémon like Vanilluxe have way more people hate it, but it also has plenty who love it. It's divisive like that.
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>>56097502
>Typhlosion, Donphan, Ursaring, Forretress, Kingdra, Stantler, Ariados, Gligar
I mean, yeah? Those are all pretty rounded.
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Print a card
Make it unplayable
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There should be an online and mobile client that doubles as Bank and Stadium. They can still do Nintendo console releases and such, but every game feeds into a unified online storage/battling experience. Must be on mobile to resurrect the whole "battle with people in the same physical space" shtick. Bonus if you have graphical options ranging from POGO AR to sprites.
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>>56102916
>you will never see fish Vaporeon ever again
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>>56098164
>Pokemon has never had good writing
I have never met anyone who says this who hasn't been a speedreader that struggles with anything even slightly more complex than the most basic plot. I knew someone who played Sun, constantly complained about the plot not making sense to the point that he asked what happened to Nebby, after Nebby had just evolved on screen a minute earlier. Same with the people who think Cyrus has no emotions even though the entire point of his character is that he's very emotional and is constantly trying to suppress them since he views them as a weakness. Or anyone who complains about the professor's camera in LA because they think the game is set in the middle ages, though that's moreso ignorance of basic history.
It's a recursive problem that some people think Pokémon's plot is no more complex than Mario or Zelda, proceed to not pay attention, and then get angry when the game has an actual story to it.

tl;dr You're very likely just retarded.
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>>56096652
New TCG art is oftentimes just the official art on a stupid background. Unless you shell out for full-art cards.
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>>56102970
Ironic shitposting is just shitposting.
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USUM are still the worst games and it's by a wide margin.
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>>56103088
base-
>thinks le spirit bad man is a good character
Never mind. Cringe.
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>>56103088
Pokémon's writing is... mostly fine for the first four Gens, no excusing Magma and Aqua though. The moment it started taking its story super seriously and focusing on superfluous characters was when the writing became an actual problem. The "story" (read: villain plots) in a Pokémon game is a vehicle, a sort of background element that serves the function of giving some impetus to your actions and progression. The actual story from Gen I to IV is YOUR story, everything you do, everyone you interact with. The villain plot is just one of the bigger episodes in it. The story is about your growth from an upstart kid in a small town in the sticks to the top Trainer in your region. But look at BW where the Champion battle isn't the climax, it's a post-game fight. The climax and credits revolve around the villain story.
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>>56102908
pokemon has had linear hallways since the beginning
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>>56094868
I stand corrected. It has better options than I had realized to take on the later portions of the game.
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>>56104130
Route and map design is completely different between Gen IV and V, and Masuda has stated that it's intentionally so. Look at the intersecting points in regions that don't lead to dead ends but rather other towns that continue to other areas.

Gen I (RG)
>Cerulean City
>Lavender Town
>Route 12
>Saffron City
>Fuschia City

Gen II (GS)
>Route 29 (technically)
>Violet City
>Route 36
>Ecruteak City
>Pokémon League
>Saffron City
>Cerulean City
>Lavender Town
>Route 12
>Fuschia City
>Viridian City

Gen III (RS)
>Oldale Town
>Route 104
>Rustboro City
>Route 110
>Mauville City
>Route 118
>Route 121
>The sea is more open than intersecting

Sinnoh
>Jubilife City
>Eterna City
>Mt. Coronet north cave
>Mt. Coronet south cave
>Hearthome City
>Route 210

Gen V (BW)
>Nimbasa City
>Opelucid City
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>>56104392
counterpoint:
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>>56104417
The fact is that the most complicated route in Alola is Route 5, and while it may look like a puzzle at first glance, you visit it in halves since the north half is on higher ground. The south half is more or less as complicated as navigating an infinity symbol, while the north half is essentially the letter Z, with you starting at the top left of the Z and your destination being the top right of the Z. Gen I-IV may have their straightforward sections, but they also have a fair share of more complex navigation. Gen V and VI push the interesting stuff to the side while having big clear roads lead you to the next destination, while Alola is a joke of a region (Hau'oli City being the "big city" of the game is a massive middle finger).
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Ghost pokemon have the coolest designs, they can pull off objectmon and there should be more objectmon so long as they're ghosts and they keep the dex entries creepy.
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>>56104454
counterpoint:
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>>56103090
>official art on a stupid background
Many such cases.
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>>56104605
Give me an Alola or Galar route that looks anything like Sinnoh's Route 210, 212, or 228.
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>>56104624
oh i don't give a fuck about alola and galar, i just wanted to post linear kanto routes
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>>56104605
>>56104630
These routes still aren't that bad in context. The reason numbered routes are so low in later games is because there's usually only one route between destinations anymore. In your first picture, you can't access Saffron City without having some kind of beverage (you can actually use Stadium 2 to bypass this and hypothetically challenge Sabrina as early as your second Gym after doing the Team Rocket stuff). You can't even go south of Cerulean City until you visit Bill, so you go to Route 24 and 25, then you can access Route 5 (which has the daycare), take the Underground Path, and then go through Route 6 to reach Vermillion City. While there, you can optionally obtain the Bike Voucher. You don't even have to beat Misty until you want to go east of Cerulean. You can go straight to the S.S. Anne, or you could go through Diglett's Cave to return to Route 2 and get Flash and some other goodies, or visit Route 11 and briefly Route 12. At this point, assuming you're not doing the Stadium 2 trick, you do the S.S. Anne and Misty. Most Gym Leaders don't need to be battled sequentially. Brock will always be first, Misty second without the drink, and Giovanni last, but the other five are fairly open ended. If you do the drink trick, you can even do Surge before Misty by learning Surf first. Then you have the entire gauntlet that is Route 12, 13, 14, and 15 (also 11 if you start from Vermillion City for whatever reason) after saving Mr. Fuji, or you could use the Bike Voucher to get a bike to take the shortcut down Route 16 to reach Fuschia City. Kanto's freedom is in the fact that you can tackle it in many ways compared to a lot of the non-Japanese regions which only got heavier and heavier with the story railroading.
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>>56104630
Kanto routes are linear but the game lets you progress in multiple directions.
Unova routes ate linear and the region as a whole is also a fucking straight line.

How linear the individual routes are is rarely relevant because either way they’re designed to lead you from point A to B. What matters is the region design.
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>>56104857
Unova's main path is linear, but there's lots of optional paths and areas on most routes.
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>>56104878
Most routes in every other game has this. I don’t know why Unovafags pretend this is something unique to Unova.
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>>56104883
Because BW was their first Pokemon game
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>>56104883
It's not unique to Unova, but it's something that has since been lost.
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>>56102508
Exactly.
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>>56104886
my first game was platinum actually
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>>56093997
the further we stray from hoenn the worse it gets
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>>56104895
Hit take gen 3 wasn't very good.
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I was more interested in these four over Jessie, James and Meowth
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>>56093997
Pokemon should have aged with its Gen 1 fanbase instead of always catering to children. It may not have kept its popularity but it could have done so much more with the ip than the same formula it's been doing for two decades. This includes the games and anime. I used to love watching pokemon as a 12 year old but eventually I got sick of Ash and the same tropes by the time Diamond/Pearl came out. It's the only thing Digimon got right at least before it went full coomer by Cyberseueth.
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>>56103090
Hasn't the TCG stopped using stock art outside of reprints for the Pokémon as of Gen 8 and for the trainers as of Gen 9?
>>56104607
They didn't look half-bad back when it was Sugimori's watercolor with the stock backgrounds edited to match. Gen 3 was hit or miss and by Gen 5 it looking cheap and uncanny.
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>>56105053
bottom two mons are a sex joke
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I like Serena
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>>56096544
4chan a magical place
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>>56105418
Zased
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Bbnders are all good. Bbnd haters are all bad.
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>>56097084
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>>56104945
This take is so cold it wraps back around to hot.
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>>56105634
I don't understand how looking at this can make people sick. I can watch this for hours and the only sickness I'm gonna get is boredom.
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>>56093997
The games end after the credits roll
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>>56106925
If you're actually curious:
>photosensitive epilepsy is a neurological disorder that makes your brain flip the fuck out when it gets a lot of strong visual patterns very quickly
>it affects about 1 in 4000 people
>during pokemania, that is a shit-ton of kids
>it wasn't as widely known about back then
The effect is also intensified if you're watching close to the screen (taking up more of your vision) or in a dark room (like a kid might if the blinds are closed).
For people without, I think it basically induces motion sickness: your eyes say your entire field of view is moving very fast, and your other senses say there's no way that's the case, and your brain decides you must be sick and should throw up about it.
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>>56106954
well duh, that's why the stuff after the credits is called "post"game. it's after the end of the game.



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