>champion Is a bugfagReally show how weak and pathetic the unova région Is compared to e real pokemon region like sinnoh.
Why do I get this feeling this thread was made by somebody that hates Sinnoh and Cynthia?
>>56099306both Alder and Iris are weak championsThats just how it isIts true in Masters as well
>>56099316it was cause it’s that “plass” spamming retard
>>56099306>NOOOO HE HAS TO ABIDE BY STRICT CHAMPION RULES, LIKE USING THE FOSSIL POKEMON AND PSEUDO EVEN IF IT WOULDN'T FIT HIM AT ALL LIKE XY'S FORGETTABLE SHIT CHAMPION!!
>>56099321That guys love diaper tho (like anyone that despise pla) so that wouldn’t make sense
Explain me about Bouffalant>extremely late game mon, found just before the Victory Road in both games>Has the same BST and a similar design as Tauros despite being completely unrelated>Signature move is basically just a reskinned Double-Edge, it has the same effect as Gen 2 Double Edge before Gen 3 gave it slighlty more recoil>The signature Alder mon in the anime over Volcarona
>>56099359>love diaper tho (like anyone that despise pla)that makes no sense
>>56099420proto-regional form. they needed dex filler because they wanted to have 150 new mons just like KAAAAANNNNNTTTOOOOO but ran out of ideas. so they stole a couple from Kanto and called it a day. if BW was made a few years later, Bouffalant would be called Unova Tauros.
>>56099420>>56099420Local idiot doesn't realize that a buffalo and a bull are different
>>56099306holy fuck this nigga's team is worse than geeta'svolcarona is literally the only good pokemon here and it's still crippled by a godawful moveset
>>56099420It had some of the most brutally min/maxed stats for Pokemon at the time. Sap Sipper gave it a 2nd immunity that also gave it a damage boost if it switched in on a Grass type attack. This being in the generation that gave us Amoonguss with the most heinous sleep mechanics in the series. Its movepool was also full of coverage options like Megahorn, Super Power, Stone Edge, Earthquake, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt, and tech options like Pursuit. It turned out pretty okay for Gen 5 standards. If it had a standard Gen 6+ BST of 515 - 530 it would've been busted. Throw 25 points on that Attack stat and it would be running people over like Conkeldurr.
>>56101152Escavalier, Bouffalant, and Volcarona are all good Pokemon in Gen 5. In the campaign where you're unlikely to ever use Stealth Rocks, Volcarona is undeniably better than psuedo legendaries and mythicals like Garchomp and Mew. The only thing holding back Volcarona in any meta is Stealth Rocks - and Blissey I guess - but when Stealth Rocks became a non-issue in Gen 8+, Volcarona became a huge problem despite receiving 0 buffs otherwise.
>>56101158too bad this guy was minmaxed in the bulky attacker direction instead of the speedy attacker onecould have been absolutely fucking terrifying
>>56101172escavalier is literally just durant but worse, who is in turn scizor but worse.bouffalant is ass, it's slow but not tanky enough to make up for it.
>>56099329>it's forgettable which is why I keep mentioning how forgettable it is
>>56101174they had to differentiate it from Tauros somehow>alright let's just copy Tauros's data as a placeholder for this buffalo Pokemon>should we bother changing its bst?>nahh just mix it up a little
>>56099306they really couldn't even give accelgor final gambit so it could actually do something?
>>56101158not even as minmaxed as tauros
>>56101158this is far from minmaxed even by gen 1 standards. abra is still the single most min-maxed pokemon to ever exist, with 105 special attack and 90 speed on a goddamn 310 BST statline.even things like deoxys-attack pale in comparison.
>>56099420What I want to know is what the actual fuck is up with Durant?>locked exclusively to end game>bug/steel, great but repetitive typing used twice elsewhere this gen including a legendary>single stage non evolver, feels especially weird for an ant of all things>low but minmaxed as fucked stats>given a solid ability in hustle, butvthen has its hidden ability wasted on truant for no reasonWhat the fuck was the point of this thing, endgame crutch mon? I guess it could serve that role but it's something so few players would ever consider. Real shame since it seems like a fun mon to use in the main game.
>>56101261honestly I think they just the bar too high for themselves with 150 new Pokemon and zero old Pokemon. I mean look at how small every dex since then has been. I think they were probably just throwing random shit at the wall towards the end because there's a lot of weird decisions in the later portion of the dex.
>>56101261it took until sword/shield for this nigga to be usable before the ass end of the game. XY it was locked until after the mandatory post-7th gym evil team debacle, and SM it just wasn't fucking available.
>>56101185>escavalier is literally just durant but worseEscavalier has far more bulk, hits way harder, and has access to Megahorn, the only thing Durant does is be faster, but what can that do with 109 attack?
>>56099306They could've given him Hydreigon, Chandelure or Stoutland
>>56101333They're opposites in terms of their roles but Durant's 109 attack with hustle let it hit stuff pretty stuff. It has both great STAB and coverage options and loses its main weakness if it can get off a hone claws.
>>56101338>Hydreigon>ChandelureAces of other major characters.
>>56101357Didn’t stop them from giving Ghetsis Bisharp despite it being Grimsley’s ace.
>>56101297It makes no sense getting Durant early though, it hits hard, has high physical defense with a great defensive typing and is very fast at that.
>>56101357So what? He's a fucking ChampionCynthia uses Lucario, Marlene's ace
>>56101357I saw an idea for a team fix where his team wasChandelureConkeldurrBisharpMusharna HydreigonVolcarona
>>56101402And Blue has Alakazam and Rhydon, Aces for Sabrina and Giovanni.
>>56101413Well kindaSometimes Giovanni's ace is either Persian or Mewtwo
>>56099306>Accelgor @ Life OrbAbility: Sticky Hold- Bug Buzz- Focus Blast- Yawn- Spikes>Escavalier @ Choice BandAbility: Swarm- Megahorn- Pursuit- Iron Head- Swords Dance>Galvantula @ Choice SpecsAbility: Compound Eyes- Thunder- Bug Buzz- Volt Switch- Giga Drain>Crustle @ Lum BerryAbility: Sturdy- Shell Smash- X-scissor- Rock Blast- Earthquake>Durant @ Occa BerryAbility: Hustle- X-Scissor- Hone Claws- Thunder Fang- Iron Head>Volcarona @ Sitrus BerryAbility: Flame Body- Quiver Dance- Fiery Dance- Bug Buzz- HurricaneThere. He's now a proper post-game fight with items on all his Pokemon and a full Bug team that has competent movesets.
>>56101447Logical. Rhydon's a jobber.
>>56101261Truant Durant is pretty good in Battle Tower due to Entrainment.
>>56102381Well, it is a true ant.
>>56102309Not with Eviolite it isn't.
>>56101174it’s a kamikaze wallbreaker.
>>56099329Ironically, N and Ghetsis fully meet those rules, which is how you can tell they're designed to be the actual Champion stand-in on a playthrough
>>56101333>but what can that do with 109 attack?The power creep in Pokémon is disgusting
>>56099321lmao I chuckled everytime he mentioned "plass". Feels like he has the vocabulary of a toddler.
>>56099306>sticks up stealth rocks>kills 50% of aces healthshitmonronabros..........
>>56099306>région>Random capitalized is in the middle of the sentence>to e realBonjour Francois
He never calls himself a bug-type specialist though
>>56103309He should doe because bugs are cool as FUCKalso he should have had Genesect
>>56103366Genesect is a Team Plasma Pokémon, I think Ghetsis could've had it