Why do Pokemon fans bitch about “Kanto pandering”, but when Game Freak deviates from Kanto in a way that’s actually meaningful, those same fans start screeching?
nobody says that/thread fpbp put your head into a fucking blender
>>56101358yawnfag why are you on an overdrive?
>>56101358those weren't the things that made XY pandering though....imagine defending less content in fucking LOCATIONS as "meaningful deviations from Kanto" and somehow expecting them to nail urban exploration on their first attempt. Why are you so mentally ill?
>>56102303> those weren't the things that made XY pandering though...Why?
>>56101358Hey PLASS phoneposter, why'd you suddenly start defending Z-A after shitting on it for months?
You guys would be happier if you responded to real people and things that exist instead of making up things that upset you.
>>56101358>Why are people bitching about call of duty removing dogtags and secondary weapons is le COD 4 pandering
>>56102620because it would mean the games he likes are also full of kanto pandering and he doesn’t want to admit that
>>56102683Formula & Pandering are two different things having LE snorlax flute for the sake of nostalgia is Pandering while having other towns (lol) is not even something exclusive to Pokemon
>>56101358>plza takes place in one cityfucking little town hero pandering
>>56102700>Formula & Pandering are two different things How?
>>56102706Fo you think catching pokemon in pokeballs is kanto pandering?
>>56102706Pandering in games I like = formulaPandering in games I don’t like = panderingsimple as
>>56102706Like having power ups or platforming in Mario its part of what makes it Mario having towns something thats not even a Pokemon thing but a thing in almost all RPG's has nothing to do with kanto>>56102709>reddit spacing
>>56102707So you think collecting 8 gym badges to enter a cave called victory road to fight a group of guys called the elite 4 except it isn’t really the elite 4 because there’s a secret 5th guy you have to fight at the end isn’t kanto pandering?
>>56102714I think that you avoiding my simple question that illustrates the difference says everything.
>>56102714IT could but its pretty formulaic for the franchise but at times they have switched that up
>>56102712> Like having power ups or platforming in Mario its part of what makes it Mario Holy shit Sun and Moon and Sword and Shield and PLA aren’t Pokemon because they don’t make me collect 8 gym badges to enter victory road and fight the elite 4?
>>56102719Nice strawman retard
>>56102716I think that you avoiding my simple question that illustrates that there is no difference says everything.
>>56102722What strawman? That’s literally what you’re arguing.
>>56102726Not at all but I guess I discord raider doesn't care for nuance to defend his shitty games
>>56102723>no u>avoiding simple questionsAutistic and brownskin.
>poor and violentIt perfectly explains their behavior.
>>56102730>nuanceGo ahead and elaborate on the nuance that explains why collecting 8 badges to enter victory road to fight the elite 4 to enter the hall of fame isn’t kanto pandering but having Snorlax and poke flute exist in a game is kanto pandering. I genuinely want to see if you can come up with an explanation that doesn’t just boil down to “games I like did it so that means it’s ok”. This should be hilarious.
>>56102747>more reddit spacingnot gonna bother reading ESL drivel
>>56102756>no argument>doesn’t even know what reddit spacing is but spams it anyway to pretend he fits inconcession accepted
>>56102756>>56102760ESL brownie vs concession accepted retard. You both should kill yourselves.
>>56102765>le both sidesfaggot
>>56101358>multiple towns is kanto pandering
>>56101358Now we'll wait for that plass retard to show up and throw a tantrum
>>56102906>8 gyms to enter victory road to fight the elite 4 is kanto panderingcorrect
>its yet another "PLAutist actively hate the Pokémon franchise" threadIm so glad you’re shitty spinoff serie is doomed to flop harder than bdsp
Kalos was my first Pokémon game and even as a kid I knew ORAS was better I can’t imagine how pathetic you have to be to defend it
>>56101358>retard op poster>wojak postsEverytime
>>56103171>k-Kalos was my first Pokémon game goysYeah sure borty
>>56103186Nope still have my copy from 2013 ORAS was far better because it had actual postgame
>>56103171I preferred XY because it has trainer customization.>>56103197XY also has actual postgame.
>>56103197>muh postgame how to spot a dsfag 101
>>56103205>trainer customization.lmao faggot ORAS is just better XY
>>56103207>wanting less content Point and laugh
>>56103215>the game has more content because they added roadblocks and made the encounter tables worse for 90% of the game
>>56103221>no battle facility’s >no e4 rematch’s >no contests>no secret bases>no legendarysYou can keep your tranny self insert customization
>>56103234> >no battle facility’s >no e4 rematch’s >no contests>no secret bases>no legendaryswe are talking about XY m8, not BW
>>56103234>lie>thing thats made redundant by the first one>thing that isn’t postgame>thing that isn’t postgame>lie
>>56103241No we’re talking about XY but nice deflection
>talking about ORAS >brings up BWUnova derangement syndrome is real
>>56103120Those are basic elements of the pokemon world. Exceptions don't disprove tendencies. No one battled gym leaders, E4's, and champions and thought OMG IT'S JUST LIKE IN THE KANTO GAME because that'd be stupid.Meanwhile referencing a Knot game SPECIFICALLY like the poke flute, snorlax, and a myriad of other elements that add up is Kanto Pandering because it is content that deliberately envokes a memory of Kanto and Kanto only.>>56103241BW had equal battle facilities to XY, had proper E4 rematches while XY didn't, lacked contests but had replacements, and had way more catchable legendaries to busy yourself with. Oh yeah, and also had a sequel that easily tripled the content offered in XY.
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>>56104460> Those are basic elements of the pokemon worldSM, SS, PLA, SV, and PLZA don’t do all those things so evidently not>No one battled gym leaders, E4's, and champions and thought OMG IT'S JUST LIKE IN THE KANTO GAME I did> because it is content that deliberately envokes a memory of Kanto and Kanto onlyYep, just like fighting 8 gyms to enter victory road to fight the elite 4
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>>56104499>evidently notAgain, exceptions don't disprove tendencies. You wouldn't argue classic pokeballs are kanto pandering because PLA didn't use them right? But of course you won't answer this very relevant question in your next post....>I didSo you were mistaken, because those are not intrinsically Kanto concepts just because they appears there first. See above for the Pokeball example, which you will most definitely ignore.>just like (thing that doesn't remind anyone of Kanto specifically unless you're a retard who gets reminded of Greece every time you vote in any other country)Thanks for demonstrating you're a retard.
>>56104512> Again, exceptions don't disprove tendenciesYou’re right, it is s tendency that they pander to Kanto by copying Kanto’s 8 gyms, victory road, and E4>So you were mistaken, because those are not intrinsically Kanto concepts just because they appears there firstGlad you agree Snorlax and Poke Flute aren’t Kanto pandering just because they appeared there first
>>56104523>it is s tendency thatthey are just how the pokemon world works, yes. Just like how governments of various countries aren't """pandering""" to the first government somehow. Regions in the Pokemon world just tend to have that type of organization with their trainers and have leagues, as establishes by Gen 7's dialogue referencing other regions and how Alola is relatively new and wants to establish that too. You still didn't address the Pokeball example anon. Do you think they're kanto pandering? By your argument, they seemingly are....>Glad you agreeSnorlax and Poke Flute are Kanto pandering because they are MOMENTS in the game that specifically make you think back to a Kanto game and nothing else. You can't justify these in any way outside of "they wanted to remind you of the older Kanto games", while you can justify the things you brought up because it's just how governments are organized in the Pokemon world, as confirmed by dialogue in Gen 7.You still didn't address the Pokeball example anon. Do you think they're kanto pandering? By your argument, they seemingly are....
>>56104556> they are just how the pokemon world works, yesEvidently not, since there are regions which don’t work that way.> Snorlax and Poke Flute are Kanto pandering because they are MOMENTS in the game that specifically make you think back to a Kanto game and nothing elseYeah just like 8 badges, victory road, elite 4 with a secret 5th guy at the end, hall of fame…> You still didn't address the Pokeball example anon. Do you think they're kanto pandering? You think a flute existing is kanto pandering, so…
>>56104569>Evidently not, since there are regions which don’t work that way.As already stated, exception don't disprove the tendency for the pokemon world to work that way. I don't think every democracy is cocksucking greeks just because not every country is a direct democracy.>just like (things that don't evoke Kanto specific feelings whatsoever because they're just overarching elements of the pokemon world like IRL governments, as demonstrated in Gen 7's dialogue.>A flute existing is aunt panderingnice strawman. I have nothing wrong with the celestica and azure flutes or the sun/moon flutes because those aren't Kanto specific concepts like the one were are actually discussing.
>>56104584>auntKanto*, apologies
>>56104584>As already stated, exception don't disprove the tendency for the pokemon world to work that wayYou’re right, it is a tendency that they pander to Kanto by copying Kanto.>because those aren't Kanto specific conceptsKanto is the only place where flutes that wake up pokemon are allowed to exist? Clearly the same can be said about 8 badges, victory road, and elite 4 then
>>56104512>>56104556>>56104584>>56104589stop feeding the troll
>>56104499>>56104523>>56104591stop feeding the troll
>>56104606parroting is an admission of defeat
>>56104460>BW had equal battle facilities to XY,XY has triple and rotation battle facilities while BW doesn’t
it’s funny how sagefag spams the same catchphrases, seethes in multiple threads about kalos and samurott at the exact same time while not bumping them because he’s afraid of people debunking his shitty arguments, and then still wonders how people are able to identify him so easily
lol what the fuck is happening in this thread
>>56104625And BW's were actually challenging
>>56104645yawnbull teaching sagesissy some lessons
>>56104648In what way
>>56104648I actually found BW’s easier because I was able to sweep everything with Dragon types way more reliably, but whatever helps you cope with BW having less content.
>>56104640you're the last person who should be chiding others for spamming catchphrases
>>56104645the unovaborts and kalosperms are having yet another one of their autistic genwar
