the moment pokemon design quality officially fell off a cliff
>>56103451>The moment when Genwunners decided "suddenly I have standards"
>>56103472/thread
>>56103472gen 5 had charizard thoughthis is a deflection of gen 5’s dozens of actual problems
>>56103451Serperior is fine but it still astounds me 14 years later how thoroughly bad they fucked up the other two starters. If they really needed to make Tepig some wrestler abomination a Fire/Ground mud wrestling theme would’ve made infinitely more sense than repeating Infernape’s theme AGAIN.
>>56103472>be the CHARIZARD>just a random fat shitmon in your homeland>somehow you end so renowned and respected throughout the world, even random muttistan shitholes you've never heard of name their landmarks after youHow does he do it?
>>56103492That's what happens when your Gym Leader is Japanese
>>56103472I look like this and I act like this. Stay mad, Chadizardfags stay winning.
>>56103451It’s funny how we’ve had the same amount of new starters after them as before them yet they’re still the worst.
>>56103472Kek based
At least Dewott attracted a following, for how abhorrently fucked up they are
>>56103472genwunners hated gen3 and everything afterwards until poGo
>>56103472Are you so young that you don't remember people shitting on Gen 3 and 4 designs and claiming they look like Digimon?
>officiallythis is the new >objectively isn't it
>>56103577Which is a false equivalency. Digimon are usually presented in a grittier comic book style with organic shapes while modern Pokemon were progressively simplified down to geometric shapes
>>56103451Seeing how starter evolutions look like today I wish they went back to this.
>>56103596I don’t.
>>56103614well, you're wrong.
>>56103596This, I miss when starters were designed like creatures not cereal mascots
>>56103628>This, I miss when starters were designed like creaturesThey still are. They’re just able to use their weapons correctly now.
>>56103633
>Anti-Samuautist still at itNo one cares about your deviantart fanfic, get a new hobby if you plan to function in society
>>56103565At first I thought Dewott was sucking his own dick lol
>>56103486You mean Blaziken's theme
>>56104560no, infernape's theme.
>>56104563Which was....um....fire-like swirls I guess ?
>>56104568>blazikenfag>is retarded
>>56104575Go ahead and explain the theme then. Happening to be the same animals as characters from media? Animals aways existed.
>>56103451They're well thought out designs.
>>56103472Yes anon, if you sold me a batman movie but batman makes zero appearances, then I would be pissed. And not only does batman not appear, but robin, nightwing, joker, and catwoman all dont appear, but instead we have weird OC knockoffs of all the real batman characters
>>56105640>Yes anon, if you sold me a batman movie but batman makes zero appearances, then I would be pissedwell then retard-kun it's a good thing this franchise is called pokemon and not charizard
>>56103618and i'm right sure
>>56103451Serperior not related
>>56103577semi-related>people hating on tepig's line because "it cooks itself" when torchic existed two gens before itthis made kid me so mad
>>56103633>forgetting about Rillaboom
>>56107857Rillaboom can use its weapons correctly.
>>56103472>no where the hell is charizard from kantoNot in RSE or DPP pre-National Dex, they'd have to deal with tolerating newer mons there too.
>>56107863It objectively can not
>>56107878ok sagefag
>>56107884ok yawnfag
>>56103451Otter, bigger otter.... unicorn walrus thing
>>56107874RSE had FRLG between RS and E to tide Genwunners over. meanwhile DP has the same Kanto's Backyard problem that Johto is hated for (arguably even worse due to having only 151 and more postegame only mons) so Genwunners would feel right a home in Sinnoh.
>>56107892>otters can only be bipedalretard
>>56107945>otters can only be retarded quadrupeds that can't use their weapons properlyretard
>>56107956>doesn't realize that Samurott is both quadrupedal and bipedal and can use its weapons properly anyway, rendering his whole argument moot
>>56107961>>doesn't realize that Samurott is both quadrupedal and bipedalI don't realize things that aren't true.
>>56107962>things that aren't trueThanks for admitting to being a blind retard.
>>56107966>being a blind retardbut enough about the people who defend samurott
>>56107971>the people who defend samurottSo the ones that use their eyes and head instead of resorting to blatant denialism of what is right in front of them being spooned to them. Glad to know I'm on the factually right side of this bullshit you started shitflinging about.
>>56107978> So the ones that use their eyes and headEvidently not.
>>56107993>Evidently not.How? Samurott has been shown to be able to be bipedal as well, and the only way you can deny it ITT is to have your head so far up your ass that it starts emerging from your face again.
>>56107892It used to learn Dragon Tail for some reason, so I'd say kirin otter
>>56103628Blaziken is quite literally a mascot design. Infernape, Empoleon, Emboar, and Samurott are also too "character-like"
>>56108002> Samurott has been shown to be able to be bipedal as wellThat must be why you can’t show a single example of it walking on two legs.
>>56108094Anon I highly recommend you look at the only non OP image of Samurott ITT and tell me with a straight face that that thing can't walk bipedal.
>>56108268that thing can't walk bipedal
>>56108270What's stopping it? It quite literally is doing so in this image>>56107961
>>56108285briefly landing from a jump != walking
>>56108353Non-bipeds don't land on the ground like that.
>>56108449Evidently they do.
>>56108469No they don't.
>>56103451> Emboar is fine and the only real problem was the absolut retardism in repeating the same type for the third time.> Samurott is fine and the only problem was betraying people's expectations from the previous two stages.Basically they are both fine designs and their only problem was not rising up to what people expected (a different type, a different body). And is fine to dislike something initially because it frustrated what you expected, but still hate it 15 years just make you look like an imbecile stuck in time.As for Serperior, peak design. Nothing to even defend it from.