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Gatr has a simple yet cool design. Why must he be an afterthought?
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>>56341697
>Barafaggot bait
>Cool
Pick one
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>>56341705
I pick cool. Done.
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>>56341705
>autist seethes at opinions
You could try being less of a loser but that takes effort and scares you.
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Favorite of the Johto trio but nowadays I won’t pick him as it makes more sense as Sliver’s ace than Megainum
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>another Incineroar stealth hate thread
sigh
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>>56341763
Do you feel special when you act like a victim all the time?
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>>56341717
Okey barafag
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>>56341763
More like another stealthy barafag thread
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They need to give him the Elemental Punches or at LEAST the Elemental Fangs
Liquidation + Ice Punch + Thunder Punch backed by DD and Sheer Force would be so nice
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>>56341804
I’ll give it Thunder Fang
It can have perfect coverage, but the low BP would balance it out
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>It's just Totodile: Adult Form
What's the job? What's the drastic difference from the basic evolution stage? What's the meme? What's the meta OP move and ability?

Honestly, it's pretty boring nowadays. Literally a Totodile with gigantism.
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>>56341827
>Literally a Totodile with gigantism.
More like: literally totodile without everything that makes totodile likeable
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>Pokemon thread
>Becomes a /pol/tard thread
Many such cases
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>>56341697
>simple yet cool design
That's exactly the problem. It's too simple and doesn't have any memorable traits that distinguish it like the other Water starters.
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>>56341870
>It's too simple and doesn't have any memorable traits
Literally every johto pokemon not counting legendaries
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>>56341872
I'd say Tyranitar is pretty memorable, but that's about it.
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>>56341843
Every J*hto thread devolves into calling each other brown.
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>>56341697
what skeledirge should have been like
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>>56341697
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>>56341804
he had ice punch in gen 2
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>>56341827
who cares? we don't need overdesigned garbage, gen 2 designs are peak
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>>56342207
>fat plush dolls are peak
lol no
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>>56341697
Because Game Freak hates Johto, and just sees it as a welcome mat for their precious KANTOOO. Thats way the Gen2 dex is so neglected and why Johto’s starters and the only starters to never get any shilling. Be grateful Gatr’s counterpart was just Blastiose meaning Gatr’s allowed to get Sheer Force, the other two are forever fucked since meganium has to compete with Masuda’s favorite Bulbasaur, while Typhlosion had to compete with fucking CHARIZARD,
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>>56341752
Who cares about silver.
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>>56342054
They do completely different things, let it go autist
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>>56342299
Cringe and kys, autist.
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>>56342349
>no argument
I accept your concession
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>>56341752
You can acknowledge canon without going out of your way to alter your experience for it.

---Feraligatr-er
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>>56341827
Feraligatr's stats were also terrible in tandem with its barren moveset. Inappropriate for pvp.

They gave it Sheer Force and Dragon Dance to try to compensate. Being so simple in design means they can't justify any extravagant move choices.
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>>56342408
> Being so simple in design means they can't justify any extravagant move choices.
They can give any Pokémon any move they want. KANTOOOOO Pokemon are simple as fuck and have the best movepools in the franchise.
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>>56342424
>and have the best movepools in the franchise.
because kanto has the best dex in the franchise (no genwar post; literally a fact).
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>>56341782
hot
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>>56341870
This is the problem with certain species in (fighting-like) spin-offs, Charizard suffers from the same problem, but lucky for it there's Seismic Toss.

>>56341705
Yes.
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>>56341697
>afterthought
Is it? Feraligatr and Typhlosion are still pretty popular, it's just the contrarians on this board who try to genwar over anything and everything who will try to convince you otherwise. Some fag WILL try to falseflag and cry over "borts" despite Johto and Unova fans having no beef with each other.
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>>56343618
Johto IS gen 4 so there is definitely beef with gen 5, retard. Unovaborts hate both the Kinnoh gen and the Kalos gen.
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>>56343628
remakes don't make it gen 4 retard
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Feraligatr bro
Femaligatr sexo
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>>56342054
Skeledirge has the opposite problem of Gatr where its design is too complicated. Krookodile is the only good croc mon, but it should be taller.
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>>56341697
Making Feraligatr have a height of 7 feet 7 inches is a based design choice, it definitely fits that massive stature well.
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>>56343628
>J*hto IS gen 4
wrong
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>freaks use my favorite mon as fetish fuel
So this is how lugiafags feel.

Put them back on all fours like in their Silver sprite, they should only get on their hind legs when in the water, their Pokédex entry says so, it's what Alligators do and it's shown in their beta gen 2 sprite.
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>>56345635
some rom hacks give him a mega thats literally that, can't remember which though
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>>56341827
>Johto starter bad because “boring” >>56341870
>johto starter bad because “simple”
Yet megas are literally designed to fix’s that along with giving a boost but Johto starter got skipped over because…fuck johto
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>>56341697
My autistic cousin loved this fag so by default that makes Feraligatr lame.
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>>56345635
>Put them back on all fours like in their Silver sprite
Uhhh Feraligatr Silver sprite is not on all fours tho?
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>>56348132
read the rest of the post retard
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>>56342299
This.
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>>56341697
I wish it was a quadruped desu. But it's still my favorite starter despite looking goofy at times.
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>>56349359
it is a quadruped, at least according to the pokedex entry
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>>56349368
It's never depicted as one though, it's always standing on its hind legs. And the dex entries feel contradictory. The silver dex entry says it has a hard time supporting it's weight so it goes down on all fours, but the crystal entry claims the hind legs are powerful and enable it to move fast even out of water.
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>>56349400
have you seen how fast real ones can run?
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>>56349436
Yeah, but not on their hind legs.
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>>56349400
the stadium 2 entry clarifies this
"It is hard for it to support its own weight out of water, so it gets down on all fours. But it moves fast."
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>>56349451
It's the same entry as in silver. I'm not trying to say that it doesn't go fast on all fours, I just feel like the entries imply different things. One says it's too heavy and has to use all fours on land, while the other says it's hind legs are powerful, implying they're suddenly strong enough on their own. The latter came from crystal, so that was written after the first games already said it was too heavy for that.
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>>56349483
the silver entry was likely written before the sprite got changed to have it standing instead of on all fours
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>>56342203
I always associate Ice Punch with Feraligatr because of that.
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>>56349359
>Quadrupedal starter
sentenced to the pit of irrelevancy with Meganium
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>>56351449
And Venusaur, right?
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>>56351449
Megabiun being forgetten has nothing so so with being quadreped. Meganium flopped because of the Johto penalty.
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>>56341697
today my nephew asked me if Feraligatr can mega evolve. I gave a hearty chuckle and said no
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I like his whole line although I wish they kept the cave man theme
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>>56353981
THIS. Wasted design from Croconaw.
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>>56353996
He has a good design, I just prefer Crocanaw
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>>56353981
Wonder why they ditched the cave man theme?
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>>56352507
>Meganium flopped because of the Johto penalty.
Typhlosion had the same and yet it's still the MOST popular johto starter
face it quadrupedal shitmons are just unpopular
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>>56352507
nobody liked meganium even when it was new
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>>56357251
pretty art!
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>>56352275
And torterra
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>>56358287
Taking a cozy nap in the cool water... must feel great for a gator!
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>>56355136
>Typhlosion had the same
Wrong, people jerk him because of "le easy early game"
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>>56361037
>easy early gam-ACK
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>>56361037
Those ""People"" are fucking retarded if they think totodile isn't better in early game
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>>56361037
It's the other way around, the only reason anyone thinks Cyndqauil is better than Tototile in game because Typhlosion is so popular many people only pick it and don't even realize how broken Gatr is.

>>56361066
To be fair if you're an ultra causal who only played the game once, pick Cyndaquil, saw it put in decent work, its a reasonable mistake to make. Especially if you've been poisoned by nu-gen brain worms and think that a physical Water types an unusable before the phys-spec split.
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>>56361097
>many people only pick it and don't even realize how broken Gatr is.
Fucking this
i've been spamming "Rage" with it through the whole early game and even learned bite just before challenging morty totodile is just THAT good while if you picked cyndaquil you're stuck with fucking ember until level 19
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>>56361037
Well Idk about that anon, but you are spot-on about the people jerking to him.
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>>56341752
Silver is a shitter, though.
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>>56361114
and don't forget it has access to Ice Punch as soon as you get to goldenrod without having to evolve, and it becomes fully evolved at level 30. the earliest of all starters.
And Being a water type it get Surf not only is it strong (95 BP for something you can get before the 4th gym) but it even frees up a HM mule's space.
Oh and its only weaknesses are Grass and Electric, the former having no offensive presence in early gens the later being rare.

>if you picked cyndaquil you're stuck with fucking ember until level
to be fair Its Ember is STAB, going off its higher offense and you get Charcoal very early compared to Mystic Water. Also its gets Rollout (which is is functionally Rock type Rage but trades perfect accuracy and )the ability to switch with a higher starting base power) and Dig for coverage all before the third gym to tide you over while waiting for ThunderPunch, ang even Smokescreen is a decent panic option. Cyndaquil is genuinely great for playthroughs, but there are times where its advisable to switch it out for something else. With Totodile there are maybe 1 or 2 instances in the entire game where you would even want to use something. and even in those instancing Gatr can likely handle it anyway. There's an argument to be made that in the context of how good it is in a playthrough of its initial game Totodile is the best starter in the entire franchise tied with Mudkip in RSE.
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I glad Gatr was on the art compeition. So much art.
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>>56362625
Cool art
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>>56362635
same
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>>56341827
He looks cool
should there really be any other reason to use a pokemon in a pokemon game just cause you like them

also I'm pretty sure this is bait idc I don't even use this board anymore here's your (you) retard
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Will always be my favourite
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>>56365849
Bad image
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>>56341827
>What's the job?
>Toddler
>Unga Bunga Caveman
>Kaiju
Pure Unadultered Tokusatsu
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Surprised no one mentioned it, but Feraligatr has been really good in Pokemon Go PvP for a while. There's about to be a MAJOR shakeup with all the meta and its projected that Feraligatr is going to be the best and most centralizing Pokemon in TWO of the three tiers of battles.
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>>56366109
He can't stop winning.
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>>56365978
That's what you get for trying to eat the little guy! >:(
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>>56365883
u guys seeing what I'm seeing?
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>>56365442
>I-I don't even like this place.... b-baka
see you later, alligator XD

retard.
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>>56366109
based GO
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>>56365883
cute family
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>>56341763
Incineshit is still a terrible design and the Telos-Example of Jobmon starters
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>>56341697
Feral will never be a afterthought to me
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>>56355136
>face it quadrupedal shitmons are just unpopular
The reason is simple:
Game Freak is too incompetent when it comes to the movepools of most quadrupedal Pokemon.
But unfortunately the "Meganium bad" circlejerk will keep going because the Pokemon community is full of cucks.
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>>56341705
>he thinks Japanese conservative autists in 1999 not only knew about but were catering to an extremely obscure western gay porn culture
hit puberty already
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>>56341697
I miss his original design. More monstrous, less bars bait.
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>>56370786
He kinda looks like he has pockets xD
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>>56370518
correct
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>>56370786
It will always be barabait
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>>56371525
Anon clearly said "bars bait".
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>>56372411
Yet you posted vore bait, anon.
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>>56372411
I think he's had one too many
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>>56370786
1. this isn't his original design
2. this is pretty much how current Gatr looks
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>>56370518
>Game Freak is too incompetent when it comes to the movepools of most quadrupedal Pokemon.
Isn't typhlosion's movepool also garbage?
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>>56373670
Typh walks and runs on fours, only stands up to fight.
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>>56370518
Venasaur, Torterra, Swampert and Skeledirge have amazing movepools
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>>56373877
Do dualtypes even count?
They get extra STAB coverage + coverage associated with their subtype(Ground types getting lots of Rock moves)
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He would look more ferocious on all fours
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>>56374632
yes, because Game Freak actively chose to make them dual typing as a way to improve their movepools. If they simply hated quadruped mons they could have just left them as monotype shitters. The fact that they didn't bother to give the Johto starter the same opportunity for extra STAB and moves means that they hate Johto in particular, with Gatr managing to survive because Water is such a fundamentally broken type you cant have a starters BST with it and be a shitmon.
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>>56368119
DELET
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>>56354001
>He has a good design
That he does. It's a wonder how anyone can bring themself to say otherwise, even to be facetious.
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>>56341697
What does Feraligatr smell like?
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>>56375938
>Why do people have different opinions?
Yes quite a mystery indeed
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>>56341870
are you implying gay james bond is memorable? its an abomination and an affront to good design.
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Sorry, wrong image.
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>>56341836
being small is practically the only difference Totodile has, gigaretard
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>>56377251
I'm not sure why, but this feels like a prehistoric version of Feraligatr.
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>>56341752
I'll never pick Cyndaquil
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>>56353967
you're a /vp/ user posting about your personal life, your family has two autistic cousins
>>56355063
I can't help but feel Croconaw awas made last and they wanted the middle stage to feel different without just being medium sized Totodile *somehow*. It's ironic how Feraligatr winds up as just adult Totodile design wise
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>>56378229
Wrong
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>>56376547
cute boyfriends
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Dragon type mega when?
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>>56384292
Should be Fighting-type instead.
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>>56384292
>>56385104
both are good
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>>56384292
its going to be ice because how bs ice punch/aquajet/setup is on him
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the amount of love energy I have for this starter could provide power to a major city
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>>56386314
Cute!
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>>56387304
>"boring" type
definitely this
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>>56341697
Not cute or sexy enough
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>>56389878
I hope you realize you're just asking for someone to come along and argue you're wrong with some muscular, baracroc art sporting a bulge that makes your eyes pop out.
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>>56373670
yes. but in gen 2 it was more excusable because thunderpunch was a special move, not physical. it was also balanced out by how common it was for most pokemon to have shit comp movepools back then anyway.
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>>56384292
with how broken fairy is now, i doubt grass/electric resist would be worth the tradeoff vs mono water. especially when there's no need for dragon stab since ferl has ice coverage already.
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>>56390233
I was going to argue that it's cute but that too
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I prefer Gatr when it actually some muscles and fat
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gatr
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>>56376547
>>56382077
boyfriends!
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>>56376547
>>56382077
>>56394248
no homo
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>>56393231
cool pose
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>>56394356
at what point does it become homo
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>>56341697
It's alright but not as appealing as Inteleon or Quaquaval imo.
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>>56398833
>quaquaval
>appealing
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>>56398851
Yes? What, did you really kaiju barabait was the peak of starters? Same mon that gets its stats from Blastoise, because they didn't want to spend the time of day giving it stats of its own?
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>>56341697
I hate the starter power creep
>empoleon is one of my favorite pokes
>best I can do with him is hope I'm matched up with a special attacker so I can tank 1 extra hit

Meanwhile recent starters can solo entire teams
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>>56399767
Good luck being Meowscarada or Inteleon's ugly friend.
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>>56400323
>ugly friend
Oh, he doesn't know...
Say, does anyone remember ash's totodile evolving? Would be kinda sad if its final evolution never actually got featured in anything. At least the duck doesn't have to worry about that. Funny, isn't it?
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>>56400323
Don't give the ducknigger the attention he wants, just ignore it and let him screech into the void
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>>56400437
Oh, you wound me. Maybe that's all pent-up aggression from Game Freak forgetting they already had a gator pokémon, that's why they made two more?
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>>56400429
homo
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>>56398833
They stylin
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>trashnime
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from the drawthread
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>>56402916
fukken saved
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>>56403295
what did he eat
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>>56394248
cute boyfriends indeed
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>>56404692
its supposed to be a jug of Gatorade.
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Gatr has seen play from NU to OU and back and forth over all the generations, that's kinda rare.
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>>56405684
well that explains the green stuff at least...
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>>56410468
it's supposed to be those big jugs they have at sports games, the ones usually associated with being dumped on people
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>>56402156
cute scarf
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>>56411188
>sandile
cute, but ruined
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>>56412960
how dare you
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>>56414170
supposed to be KROKOROK
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>>56414171
sandile's cuter so it works out :)
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>>56402141
haha, adorable :)
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>>56414502
It looks like it's the same artist who drew these 3 lines in a car, but instead of being Krookodile, it's Krokorok.
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>>56417024
cute
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>>56341705
Barafaggot bait will always be cool
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>>56417024
lmao, I love it
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>>56366109
The prophecy has come true
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>>56418428
that shit ain't water
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Does Feraligatr eat humans? I need to know for scientific research purposes.
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it's so much more cool as Gatr than Gator. The Localizers ignoring the character limit was based



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