Gatr has a simple yet cool design. Why must he be an afterthought?
>>56341697>Barafaggot bait >Cool Pick one
>>56341705I pick cool. Done.
>>56341705>autist seethes at opinionsYou could try being less of a loser but that takes effort and scares you.
Favorite of the Johto trio but nowadays I won’t pick him as it makes more sense as Sliver’s ace than Megainum
>another Incineroar stealth hate threadsigh
>>56341763Do you feel special when you act like a victim all the time?
>>56341717Okey barafag
>>56341763More like another stealthy barafag thread
They need to give him the Elemental Punches or at LEAST the Elemental FangsLiquidation + Ice Punch + Thunder Punch backed by DD and Sheer Force would be so nice
>>56341804I’ll give it Thunder FangIt can have perfect coverage, but the low BP would balance it out
>It's just Totodile: Adult FormWhat's the job? What's the drastic difference from the basic evolution stage? What's the meme? What's the meta OP move and ability?Honestly, it's pretty boring nowadays. Literally a Totodile with gigantism.
>>56341827>Literally a Totodile with gigantism.More like: literally totodile without everything that makes totodile likeable
>Pokemon thread >Becomes a /pol/tard thread Many such cases
>>56341697>simple yet cool designThat's exactly the problem. It's too simple and doesn't have any memorable traits that distinguish it like the other Water starters.
>>56341870>It's too simple and doesn't have any memorable traitsLiterally every johto pokemon not counting legendaries
>>56341872I'd say Tyranitar is pretty memorable, but that's about it.
>>56341843Every J*hto thread devolves into calling each other brown.
>>56341697what skeledirge should have been like
>>56341697
>>56341804he had ice punch in gen 2
>>56341827who cares? we don't need overdesigned garbage, gen 2 designs are peak
>>56342207>fat plush dolls are peaklol no
>>56341697Because Game Freak hates Johto, and just sees it as a welcome mat for their precious KANTOOO. Thats way the Gen2 dex is so neglected and why Johto’s starters and the only starters to never get any shilling. Be grateful Gatr’s counterpart was just Blastiose meaning Gatr’s allowed to get Sheer Force, the other two are forever fucked since meganium has to compete with Masuda’s favorite Bulbasaur, while Typhlosion had to compete with fucking CHARIZARD,
>>56341752Who cares about silver.
>>56342054They do completely different things, let it go autist
>>56342299Cringe and kys, autist.
>>56342349>no argument I accept your concession
>>56341752You can acknowledge canon without going out of your way to alter your experience for it.---Feraligatr-er
>>56341827Feraligatr's stats were also terrible in tandem with its barren moveset. Inappropriate for pvp.They gave it Sheer Force and Dragon Dance to try to compensate. Being so simple in design means they can't justify any extravagant move choices.
>>56342408> Being so simple in design means they can't justify any extravagant move choices.They can give any Pokémon any move they want. KANTOOOOO Pokemon are simple as fuck and have the best movepools in the franchise.
>>56342424>and have the best movepools in the franchise.because kanto has the best dex in the franchise (no genwar post; literally a fact).
>>56341782hot
>>56341870This is the problem with certain species in (fighting-like) spin-offs, Charizard suffers from the same problem, but lucky for it there's Seismic Toss.>>56341705Yes.
>>56341697>afterthoughtIs it? Feraligatr and Typhlosion are still pretty popular, it's just the contrarians on this board who try to genwar over anything and everything who will try to convince you otherwise. Some fag WILL try to falseflag and cry over "borts" despite Johto and Unova fans having no beef with each other.
>>56343618Johto IS gen 4 so there is definitely beef with gen 5, retard. Unovaborts hate both the Kinnoh gen and the Kalos gen.
>>56343628remakes don't make it gen 4 retard
Feraligatr broFemaligatr sexo
>>56342054Skeledirge has the opposite problem of Gatr where its design is too complicated. Krookodile is the only good croc mon, but it should be taller.
>>56341697Making Feraligatr have a height of 7 feet 7 inches is a based design choice, it definitely fits that massive stature well.
>>56343628>J*hto IS gen 4wrong
>freaks use my favorite mon as fetish fuelSo this is how lugiafags feel.Put them back on all fours like in their Silver sprite, they should only get on their hind legs when in the water, their Pokédex entry says so, it's what Alligators do and it's shown in their beta gen 2 sprite.
>>56345635some rom hacks give him a mega thats literally that, can't remember which though
>>56341827>Johto starter bad because “boring” >>56341870>johto starter bad because “simple” Yet megas are literally designed to fix’s that along with giving a boost but Johto starter got skipped over because…fuck johto
>>56341697My autistic cousin loved this fag so by default that makes Feraligatr lame.
>>56345635>Put them back on all fours like in their Silver spriteUhhh Feraligatr Silver sprite is not on all fours tho?
>>56348132read the rest of the post retard
>>56342299This.
>>56341697I wish it was a quadruped desu. But it's still my favorite starter despite looking goofy at times.
>>56349359it is a quadruped, at least according to the pokedex entry
>>56349368It's never depicted as one though, it's always standing on its hind legs. And the dex entries feel contradictory. The silver dex entry says it has a hard time supporting it's weight so it goes down on all fours, but the crystal entry claims the hind legs are powerful and enable it to move fast even out of water.
>>56349400have you seen how fast real ones can run?
>>56349436Yeah, but not on their hind legs.
>>56349400the stadium 2 entry clarifies this"It is hard for it to support its own weight out of water, so it gets down on all fours. But it moves fast."
>>56349451It's the same entry as in silver. I'm not trying to say that it doesn't go fast on all fours, I just feel like the entries imply different things. One says it's too heavy and has to use all fours on land, while the other says it's hind legs are powerful, implying they're suddenly strong enough on their own. The latter came from crystal, so that was written after the first games already said it was too heavy for that.
>>56349483the silver entry was likely written before the sprite got changed to have it standing instead of on all fours
>>56342203I always associate Ice Punch with Feraligatr because of that.
>>56349359>Quadrupedal startersentenced to the pit of irrelevancy with Meganium
>>56351449And Venusaur, right?
>>56351449 Megabiun being forgetten has nothing so so with being quadreped. Meganium flopped because of the Johto penalty.
>>56341697today my nephew asked me if Feraligatr can mega evolve. I gave a hearty chuckle and said no
I like his whole line although I wish they kept the cave man theme
>>56353981THIS. Wasted design from Croconaw.
>>56353996He has a good design, I just prefer Crocanaw
>>56353981Wonder why they ditched the cave man theme?
>>56352507>Meganium flopped because of the Johto penalty.Typhlosion had the same and yet it's still the MOST popular johto starter face it quadrupedal shitmons are just unpopular
>>56352507nobody liked meganium even when it was new
>>56357251pretty art!
>>56352275And torterra
>>56358287Taking a cozy nap in the cool water... must feel great for a gator!
>>56355136>Typhlosion had the sameWrong, people jerk him because of "le easy early game"
>>56361037>easy early gam-ACK
>>56361037Those ""People"" are fucking retarded if they think totodile isn't better in early game
>>56361037It's the other way around, the only reason anyone thinks Cyndqauil is better than Tototile in game because Typhlosion is so popular many people only pick it and don't even realize how broken Gatr is. >>56361066To be fair if you're an ultra causal who only played the game once, pick Cyndaquil, saw it put in decent work, its a reasonable mistake to make. Especially if you've been poisoned by nu-gen brain worms and think that a physical Water types an unusable before the phys-spec split.
>>56361097>many people only pick it and don't even realize how broken Gatr is.Fucking this i've been spamming "Rage" with it through the whole early game and even learned bite just before challenging morty totodile is just THAT good while if you picked cyndaquil you're stuck with fucking ember until level 19
>>56361037Well Idk about that anon, but you are spot-on about the people jerking to him.
>>56341752Silver is a shitter, though.
>>56361114and don't forget it has access to Ice Punch as soon as you get to goldenrod without having to evolve, and it becomes fully evolved at level 30. the earliest of all starters. And Being a water type it get Surf not only is it strong (95 BP for something you can get before the 4th gym) but it even frees up a HM mule's space. Oh and its only weaknesses are Grass and Electric, the former having no offensive presence in early gens the later being rare. >if you picked cyndaquil you're stuck with fucking ember until level to be fair Its Ember is STAB, going off its higher offense and you get Charcoal very early compared to Mystic Water. Also its gets Rollout (which is is functionally Rock type Rage but trades perfect accuracy and )the ability to switch with a higher starting base power) and Dig for coverage all before the third gym to tide you over while waiting for ThunderPunch, ang even Smokescreen is a decent panic option. Cyndaquil is genuinely great for playthroughs, but there are times where its advisable to switch it out for something else. With Totodile there are maybe 1 or 2 instances in the entire game where you would even want to use something. and even in those instancing Gatr can likely handle it anyway. There's an argument to be made that in the context of how good it is in a playthrough of its initial game Totodile is the best starter in the entire franchise tied with Mudkip in RSE.
I glad Gatr was on the art compeition. So much art.
>>56362625Cool art
>>56362635same
>>56341827He looks cool should there really be any other reason to use a pokemon in a pokemon game just cause you like themalso I'm pretty sure this is bait idc I don't even use this board anymore here's your (you) retard
Will always be my favourite
>>56365849Bad image
>>56341827>What's the job?>Toddler>Unga Bunga Caveman>KaijuPure Unadultered Tokusatsu
Surprised no one mentioned it, but Feraligatr has been really good in Pokemon Go PvP for a while. There's about to be a MAJOR shakeup with all the meta and its projected that Feraligatr is going to be the best and most centralizing Pokemon in TWO of the three tiers of battles.
>>56366109He can't stop winning.
>>56365978That's what you get for trying to eat the little guy! >:(
>>56365883u guys seeing what I'm seeing?
>>56365442>I-I don't even like this place.... b-bakasee you later, alligator XDretard.
>>56366109based GO
>>56365883cute family
>>56341763Incineshit is still a terrible design and the Telos-Example of Jobmon starters
>>56341697Feral will never be a afterthought to me
>>56355136>face it quadrupedal shitmons are just unpopularThe reason is simple:Game Freak is too incompetent when it comes to the movepools of most quadrupedal Pokemon.But unfortunately the "Meganium bad" circlejerk will keep going because the Pokemon community is full of cucks.
>>56341705>he thinks Japanese conservative autists in 1999 not only knew about but were catering to an extremely obscure western gay porn culturehit puberty already
>>56341697I miss his original design. More monstrous, less bars bait.
>>56370786He kinda looks like he has pockets xD
>>56370518correct
>>56370786It will always be barabait
>>56371525Anon clearly said "bars bait".
>>56372411Yet you posted vore bait, anon.
>>56372411I think he's had one too many
>>563707861. this isn't his original design2. this is pretty much how current Gatr looks
>>56370518>Game Freak is too incompetent when it comes to the movepools of most quadrupedal Pokemon.Isn't typhlosion's movepool also garbage?
>>56373670Typh walks and runs on fours, only stands up to fight.
>>56370518Venasaur, Torterra, Swampert and Skeledirge have amazing movepools
>>56373877Do dualtypes even count? They get extra STAB coverage + coverage associated with their subtype(Ground types getting lots of Rock moves)
He would look more ferocious on all fours
>>56374632yes, because Game Freak actively chose to make them dual typing as a way to improve their movepools. If they simply hated quadruped mons they could have just left them as monotype shitters. The fact that they didn't bother to give the Johto starter the same opportunity for extra STAB and moves means that they hate Johto in particular, with Gatr managing to survive because Water is such a fundamentally broken type you cant have a starters BST with it and be a shitmon.
>>56368119DELET
>>56354001>He has a good designThat he does. It's a wonder how anyone can bring themself to say otherwise, even to be facetious.
>>56341697What does Feraligatr smell like?
>>56375938>Why do people have different opinions?Yes quite a mystery indeed
>>56341870are you implying gay james bond is memorable? its an abomination and an affront to good design.
>>56377279>>56377555Sorry, wrong image.
>>56341836being small is practically the only difference Totodile has, gigaretard
>>56377251I'm not sure why, but this feels like a prehistoric version of Feraligatr.
>>56341752I'll never pick Cyndaquil
>>56353967you're a /vp/ user posting about your personal life, your family has two autistic cousins>>56355063I can't help but feel Croconaw awas made last and they wanted the middle stage to feel different without just being medium sized Totodile *somehow*. It's ironic how Feraligatr winds up as just adult Totodile design wise
>>56378229Wrong
>>56376547cute boyfriends
Dragon type mega when?
>>56384292Should be Fighting-type instead.
>>56384292>>56385104both are good
>>56384292its going to be ice because how bs ice punch/aquajet/setup is on him
the amount of love energy I have for this starter could provide power to a major city
>>56386314Cute!
>>56387304>"boring" typedefinitely this
>>56341697Not cute or sexy enough
>>56389878I hope you realize you're just asking for someone to come along and argue you're wrong with some muscular, baracroc art sporting a bulge that makes your eyes pop out.
>>56373670yes. but in gen 2 it was more excusable because thunderpunch was a special move, not physical. it was also balanced out by how common it was for most pokemon to have shit comp movepools back then anyway.
>>56384292with how broken fairy is now, i doubt grass/electric resist would be worth the tradeoff vs mono water. especially when there's no need for dragon stab since ferl has ice coverage already.
>>56390233I was going to argue that it's cute but that too
I prefer Gatr when it actually some muscles and fat
gatr
>>56376547>>56382077boyfriends!
>>56376547>>56382077>>56394248no homo
>>56393231cool pose
>>56394356at what point does it become homo
>>56341697It's alright but not as appealing as Inteleon or Quaquaval imo.
>>56398833>quaquaval>appealing
>>56398851Yes? What, did you really kaiju barabait was the peak of starters? Same mon that gets its stats from Blastoise, because they didn't want to spend the time of day giving it stats of its own?
>>56341697I hate the starter power creep>empoleon is one of my favorite pokes>best I can do with him is hope I'm matched up with a special attacker so I can tank 1 extra hitMeanwhile recent starters can solo entire teams
>>56399767Good luck being Meowscarada or Inteleon's ugly friend.
>>56400323>ugly friendOh, he doesn't know...Say, does anyone remember ash's totodile evolving? Would be kinda sad if its final evolution never actually got featured in anything. At least the duck doesn't have to worry about that. Funny, isn't it?
>>56400323Don't give the ducknigger the attention he wants, just ignore it and let him screech into the void
>>56400437Oh, you wound me. Maybe that's all pent-up aggression from Game Freak forgetting they already had a gator pokémon, that's why they made two more?
>>56400429homo
>>56398833They stylin
>trashnime
from the drawthread
>>56402916fukken saved
>>56403295what did he eat
>>56394248cute boyfriends indeed
>>56404692its supposed to be a jug of Gatorade.
Gatr has seen play from NU to OU and back and forth over all the generations, that's kinda rare.
>>56405684well that explains the green stuff at least...
>>56410468it's supposed to be those big jugs they have at sports games, the ones usually associated with being dumped on people
>>56402156cute scarf
>>56411188>sandilecute, but ruined
>>56412960how dare you
>>56414170supposed to be KROKOROK
>>56414171sandile's cuter so it works out :)
>>56402141haha, adorable :)
>>56414502It looks like it's the same artist who drew these 3 lines in a car, but instead of being Krookodile, it's Krokorok.
>>56417024cute
>>56341705Barafaggot bait will always be cool
>>56417024lmao, I love it
>>56366109The prophecy has come true
>>56418428that shit ain't water
Does Feraligatr eat humans? I need to know for scientific research purposes.
it's so much more cool as Gatr than Gator. The Localizers ignoring the character limit was based
>>56366109Every since it got Shadow Claw its been amazing, and with the recent changes its flat out among the best if not THE best Pokemon in Great and Ultra Leagues.