>>56398282
Shilling via placed on boss teams, competitive viably, Super Saiyan forms, prominence in the anime, and appearances in spinoffs.

>>56398299
Also fuckability, lets not kid ourselves.

availability in games + shilling efforts by gamefreak

>>56398303
Name 1 pokemon that got popular for fuckability that didn't have the other factors going for it.

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Let's use Gamefreak's golden boy as a measuring stick for what makes a Pokemon popular.
>early promotion
Lucario is one of the anointed ones that got an entire movie before it's generational debut, on top of other pre-release shilling like being the final rank in PMD and showing up in other early teaser stuff for gen 4, alongside Bonsly, Mime Jr, Munchlax and Weavile, though Lucario easily dwarfs all of them. A popular Pokemon gets a headstart on other mons for occupying the headspace of kids by being the first thing they see and latch onto, this is also why starters are universally popular no matter what.
>powerful/unique abilities
Kinda self explanitory, Lucario got to be Fighting/Steel despite it making way more sense for him to be Fighting/Psychic for literally no other reason than it's a unique type that makes him stand out, he also had amazing mixed attacker stats, a signature move in Aura Sphere with the coveted special Fighting type attack that isn't Focus Miss, and other goodies like E-Speed. This became a running theme among other shillmons to have minmaxed stats, a broken ability, an insane signature move, or all 3.
>alternate forms
This one's self explanatory, but to me it feels they give alt forms to mons that are already popular as a way to keep them relevant. This is mostly in reference to Mega Evolution since Regionals don't affect a Pokemon's popularity to a terrible degree and more often than not are kind of just set dressing, since most regionals wind up being mostly the same as their original form powerlevel wise, barring obvious exceptions like G-Darm.
>getting focus in spinoff titles
Another easy box to check, along with PMD, Lucario also stole his way into Smash Bros Brawl, getting in remarkably early compared to other fighters with only about a year between DP's release (Sept 2006) and Brawl's (Jan 2008) and Brawl had a delay on top of that.

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>>56398442
2/2
With all of these things in mind, it's not hard to draw lines to Pokemon that debuted after Lucario and see which ones were and were not popular. Truly, tons of promotion is the fast track to making a Pokemon become a series mainstay, BUT it's not a hard, golden rule.
There are Pokemon that have tons of promotion in one way or another, and check every single box here, but wind up not being very popular, Incineroar and Zoroark come to mind. Being a competitively viable Pokemon doesn't instantly equate to popularity either, otherwise we'd be seeing Heatran, Amoongus and Lando plushies on every shelf.
On the inverse, there are some Pokemon that got little to no promotion, yet still wound up being the faces of their generation. I'd like to point to Tinkaton as the most recent example, a Pokemon that only shows up once in SV, used by an E4 member, and yet is right up there with the heavily promoted starters in polls.

I don't think there's any set formula to make a Pokemon popular (gamefreak has definitely tried; look at Zeraora) , you can try to boil it down to just design, but then we get into subjective arguments about what is and isn't considered appealing. Why is Tyranitar so popular but Baxcalibur so divisive? That's just a whole other discussion. It's easier to ask yourself a few questions and think about what Pokemon come to mind for the answers.
>Is the Pokemon powerful competitively?
>Does it have a strong ability/signature move?
>Does the Pokemon have an alternate form?
>Does the Pokemon have a prominent role in the game, anime or a spinoff?
>Is the Pokemon an ace of a popular character?
>Is the Pokemon related to a popular Pokemon from an older generation?
>Do you think the Pokemon appeals to a certain consumer base?

If you answered yes to a lot of these questions, more often than not the Pokemon is popular in some form, if you answered no to most, the Pokemon is likely more niche. There are always exceptions though!

>>56398422
Lopunny, unless you count not even being flint's ace as shilling. Buneary was also significantly more prominent as a stock cutemon in the anime and such.
You could cite megas, but it was popular before them, not the other way around.

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>>56398713
there was the joker meme too

>>56398442
>He also had amazing mixed attacker stats, a signature move in Aura Sphere with the coveted special Fighting type attack that isn't Focus Miss, and other goodies like E-Speed.

Not quite sure about this. Aura Sphere isn't a signature, in Platinum it's very possible that you have a Togekiss that knows it before getting Riolu on Iron Island.

>>56398860
I think he means signature move as in it being associated with Lucario first rather than it being exclusive to him

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>>56398282
Whenever I see Tapu Lele I think of the absolute retard that bought a PSA 9 or 10 Tapu Lele card and made a thread about breaking it out of the sealed graded hard plastic. I can't even remember any key sentences or words used by posts in the thread to find it in the archive and the pictures he took are probably all dead.

>>56398453
zoroark failed because it was basically fucking impossible to get one in BW1. both the zorua and zoroark events required specific event distributions that you had to get with HGSS and transfer over, which meant they were postgame locked on top of being event locked.
no amount of shilling will make a mon popular if you can't use it in the damn game.

>>56399125
Honestly if GF just let Zorua be some random wild mon (or even better you had some guy gift you one) it would be so much more popular. Luckily GF realized their mistake and undid the gatekeeping behing getting Zoroark in B2W2 and seems to have salvaged their popularity since nowadays Zoroark is fairly popular, not syaing they're among the top but still popular enough to be in the public conscience. Now what the fuck GF were smoking when they tried to do it again with Zeraora I don't know

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>>56398422
Lapras

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>>56398759
Maybe if you're a literal zoomer born after 2004

>>56398282
People like the design, anything else is pure schizo nonsense and cope.

>>56398453
Wait my brother, your analysis is good except for a fatal flaw.
A Pokemon "good for the game" doesn't mean competitively, no one cares for competitive Pokémon (just look at the numbers of people WATCHING wcs compared to actual sold copies of the game and keep in mind that most people express their opinion without even playing/buying the games, competitive is non existent in statistics)
It means how easy it is to access said Pokemon during your playthrough and how strong that Pokemon actually is.
Going back to Lucario, you are given one for free in dppt right before a steel gym, (followed by an ice one)
In b2w2 you cam get one in an extra easrly route
In XY you are given ANOTHER one for free and it can mega evolve literally beating the game on its own.
Starters tok twnd to be pretty strong, and no wonder everyone prefers charizard over bulbasaur or cyndaquil/totodile over chikorita, grass starters usually get the short end of the stick.
Point is, shillmons are usually gifted to you so that literal children don't have to waste their precious time to found one, or catchable in the first routes so that you can bond with them as you go (look at how ralts and eevee have been pushed into the earliest possible routes in recent games)

Zoroark failed because there was no eay way to get it (hell, now it's IMPOSSIBLE to get one in bw) you get a free zorua in b2w2 sure but that's around gym 5, and you have had plenty of shillmons to caught along the way.

A very failed shillmon imo is lycanroc, they tried all their might to push it, but people ended up loving mimikyu instead of lyc.

>>56400668
The problem with Lyanroc is how bland it is and the stupid requirement for the special snowflake form along with Midnight form having fucking Counter instead of a signature move

>>56399116
Wait what

>>56402527
Found it after trying a quick search again.

https://archive.palanq.win/vp/thread/36220419/

>>56402822
Maybe it's just me but the images are broken so I don't get to see OP's retardation

>>56402837
That archive lost all its images in 2021 and now only has new and repopulated images. b4k has all its images but only goes to 2019.

>>56402847
god damn it

>>56401603
>Midnight form having fucking Counter instead of a signature move
It's just Game Freak's obligated retardation with Rock type Pokemon. A sensible game developer (eg. not Game Freak) would've made sure that the midnight form had a signature move as well.
There are also more things that a sensible game developer would've done that Game Freak isn't capable of but that would be a lengthy post and would rile up bootlickers.

>>56398282
If 4chan hates it, it's popular and therefore a good design.

If 4chan likes it, it's not liked and therefore a bad design.

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>>56402898
Damn I guess Rayquaza is unpopular

>>56398453
>>Is the Pokemon powerful competitively?
>>Does it have a strong ability/signature move?
>>Does the Pokemon have an alternate form?
>>Does the Pokemon have a prominent role in the game, anime or a spinoff?
>>Is the Pokemon an ace of a popular character?
>>Is the Pokemon related to a popular Pokemon from an older generation?
Chandelure says no to a lot of those, unless you wanna argue it being discount gengar
>>Do you think the Pokemon appeals to a certain consumer base?
Maybe?

>>56398422
Ditto
Salazzle

>>56403393
Ditto has the GENWUN bonus and no one gives a shit about Salazzle

>>56403393
>Ditto
>when it's popular for its gimmick of transforming and for being the premier mon for playing eugenics simulator

>>56403287
Chandelure is a weird one in that Japan just latched on for no reason

>>56402872
I actually would like to hear it, let the bootlickers seethe

>>56398422
mawile

>>56406115
Mawile wasn't popular by any stretch before Megas

>>56402872
seconding >>56405997
tell us

>>56398422
A Pokémon doesn't need to be solely popular due to fuckability for fuckability to be a factor in a Pokémon becoming popular

>>56402872
C'mon anon tell us the sensible things GF ought to do but don't

>>56398282
sometimes it's just pure luck

bump

>>56405997
>>56407306
>>56409462
- Q&A testings for their games to ensure that performance isn't atrocious and there's no glaring issues
- optimization (there's no need for a large body of water to be under the world or have it rendered all the time, and there's no need for render distance to go out that far)
- Textures that are not a complete insult to the platform the game is for
- being able to skip ALL dialogue and cutscenes
- cut down on the <Pokémon's ability>, <Pokémon's stat rose/dropped> and have it all streamlined (Game Freak did this with Legends Arceus actually did this but backtracked in Scarlet & Violet with KLAWF'S ANGER SHELL
- redoing the stats and/or abilities of past-gen Pokémon (imagine if Jhotoian Typhlosion actually had its own stat spread and a movepool and if Meganium didn't get treated like shit)
- Moonblast being 90 BP and not 95 to be in line with Ice Beam and Thunderbolt (Fairy is just another typing, it isn't special)
- rework shitty abilities like Leaf Guard or remove them altogether (like Frisk)
- stop being niggardly as hell with physical Electric type moves and special Rock type moves (fuck Pikachu, stop gatekeeping Volt Tackle)
- IV reset equivalent to the Bottle Cap (why doesn't this exist already especially considering how much they're pushing VGC)
- unfuck the powercreep and curb the distribution of moves like Stealth Rock making it exclusive to Rock type Pokémon and Ice Beam exclusive to Ice type Pokémon (and Water type Pokémon (not already part Ice) that live in cold areas like Empoleon).
- give Dewgong Freeze-Dry (it's the only Ice type Pokémon that can't learn it IIRC)
- correct other strange movepool omissions (like Aurorus & Power Gem or Typhlosion & Thunder/Thunderbolt/Earth Power (volcanic lightning & earthquakes)
- stop doing asinine reveals like the 24 hour stream that "revealed" a Pokémon that people already knew about (Impidimp
- reveal ALL the Pokemon before the games release (they stoped in gen 8 for some reason)

>>56411342
>reveal ALL the Pokemon before the games release (they stoped in gen 8 for some reason)
Yeah because people complaimed about too much info in gen 7

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>>56398453
TL;DR: Shillmons are a fucking farce.

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>>56398759
Fucking zoomer.
Lopunny got picked for that meme because it's already popular and pornbait, not the other way around.
>Captcha: WANNA

>>56400131
Damage was already done and their agility got turned useless in following generations. It has nothing going for it now, except maybe furry privilege.

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>>56403287
Chandelure is Pokémon's Gojou Masaru. You retards need to realize it's not actually popular.

>>56412137
Except for fans that grew up with it, along with N and Battle Subway brothers fans, Japan really does not give a fuck about Unova. A popular region would deal a some resistance to the botting. Chandelure got first place no problem lmao.

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>>56403287
>>56405524
she's just that good

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like this

>>56412064
And then there's "they're not revealing enough Pokémon". People don't know what they want.

Game Freak can do the following and people will STILL complain:
>unfuck meganium (complaints over game freak "wasting" a buff on a pokémon no one supposedly cares about
>making more fossil pokémon (complaints over their rock typings
>not making fossil pokémon (complaints over how game freak doesn't care about fossil pokémon)
>change the typings and/or overhaul the stats of pokémon with bad typings like aggron and aurorus (err muh gurd they may as well be new pokémon and could've made new cool pokémon instead (as if people don't ask for them to be buffed))
>wild charge is no longer exclusive to pikachu (complaints over how pikachu is no longer "special" or something else dumb)
>age adjuster for the player character because "who wants to play as a 10-12 year old?" (complaints over how you'd be ruining the idea of a kid going on a pokémon adventure)
>game freak taking their time on the next game (apparently games not being rushed is a bad thing now, after discussions upon discussions of "game freak should take longer on their games and not rush them for the holiday season")
How right am I on all this?

>>56412064
If GF advertised that they were revealing all the Pokémon people wouldn't be as mad, hell I remember during the hype season for Gen 7 no one really complained in the moment, it was more of a post hoc complaint about Gen 7.

>>56411342
>- Moonblast being 90 BP and not 95 to be in line with Ice Beam and Thunderbolt (Fairy is just another typing, it isn't special)
Add to it 10% chance for Special Attack drop.

> Thunderbolt: 90BP, 10% chance of paralysis
> Flamethrower: 90BP, 10% chance of burn
> Ice Beam: 90BP, 10% chance of freeze
> Sludge Bomb: 90BP, 30% chance of poison
> Energy Ball, Psychic, Bug Buzz, Earth Power: 90BP, 10% chance of Sp.Def drop
> Flash Cannon, Shadow Ball: 80BP, 10% chance of Sp.Def drop
> Dragon Pulse: 85BP, no secondary effect
> Surf: 90BP, spread, no secondary effect
> Hyper Voice: 90BP, spread, no secondary effect
> Dark Pulse: 80BP, 20% chance of flinch
> Aura Sphere: 80BP, no secondary effect, no accuracy check
> Power Gem: 80BP, no secondary effect
> Air Slash: 75BP, 30% chance of flinch, can miss

>Moonblast: 95BP, 30% chance of Sp.Atk drop

Some faggot at GF just decided Fairy was going to get the nicest things

>>56412256
Bulbapedo searches do not correlate to popularity

>>56412133
I won't argue that GF permanently damaged Zoroark's potential by fucking up so bad in BW but Zoroark is at least somewhat recognizable to anyone that has cursory knowledge of Pokemon

>>56413102
Oh damn that's a good way of highlight the favoritism Fairy gets as the shiny new thing

Me.

>>56411342
>my takes are too controversial and will cause too much seethe
>coldest takes imaginable that every normie has said at some point
kek

>>56412119
How did you come to that conclusion?

>>56413983
That's just because of the movie and ability, even people that haven't watched it know how it works from people that did.

>>56415008
>will cause too much seethe
By bootlickers I refer to shitposters and people who defend Game Freak. Yes all of what I just said is normie but fuck it.

>>56415908
They're designed by committee to be like jangling keys to fans. Their popularity is forced and not natural.

>>56415921
Which means the movie was successful in spreading Zoroark's name

>>56398422
GARDEVOIR.
MELOETTA.
AND LATELY I'VE BEEN SEEN SOME SEAL THAT, GODDAMN, HAS MADE REACT TO WISHTLING IN A WEIRD WAY.

>>56416341
Gardevoir was shilled as Wally's ace

>>56416296
To be honest, it has NOTHING else going for it except that movie and the related BW event.

>>56417891
still better than nothing. Plus you could get a movie and still be memoryholed. You don't see Volcanian be remembered despite having a movie about him.

>>56418266
Zoro only gets remembered through, let's be honest

>>56418514
only gets remembered through porn*

>>56418514
You know for a fact that the Pokemon Movie is what made Mew and Mewtwo so Ubiquitous

>>56418514
which is proof that Zoroark succeeded where others failed even with GF shitting the bed

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>>56417068
wally wasn't even in the anime, the main vehicle for shilling, gardevoir was shilled after it was popular, not before

it's interesting how the more a Pokemon looks anthropomorphic and resembles an attractive woman it's guaranteed to be one of the most popular Pokemon in their gen. Really make one ponder.

>>56419569
but the most popular Pokémon aren't that

>>56420057
Well, let's put to that to the test then:

>Most popular Gen I mon
Charizard
>Most popular Gen II mon
Lugia
>Most popular Gen III
Gardevoir
>Most popular Gen IV mon
Lucario
>Most popular Gen V mon
Zoroark
>Most popular Gen VI
Greninja
>Most popular Gen VII mon
Decidueye
>Most popular Gen VIII mon
Cinderace
>Most popular Gen IX mon
Meowscarada

All of them are bipedal, 2/3 of them are androgynous anthropomorphic characters. Don't you think there's a corelation?

>>56420845
Bipedalism does equate to anthropomorphism but you are correct about new gens leaning hard into it

>>56398282
For children (the target audience), how cool they look. For adults, sex appeal

>>56420845
More porn doesn't mean more popular anon

>>56420845
>CHARIZARD is the most shilled pokemon in the franchise, fucking Stantler wokld be popular if it had CHARIZARD’s Marketing team
>Lugia is the one or the very small hand up of Gen2 pokemkn allowed to have its fair share of spotlight during Gen2, nearly everything else was forced to second banana to KANTOOOOOOOOOO
>yes
>yes
>no one cares abut zoroack, Chandelure is the Gen5 pokemkn on people care about
>Greninja is almost as shilled as CHARIZARD
>decidueye flopped to hard it had to be replaced with a regional from
>yes
>delusional

>>56421202
Actually thinking about it who is the most popular Gen 9 Pokémon?

>>56421744
It's 100% the cat. Even non-pokemon fans know about it, and you all know why.

>>56422014
Well there are two reasons, one is that Sprigatito was memed as DUDE WEEDCAT LMAO and second is the coom factor (which then spawns the 'woah you thought I was implying something lewd with Meowscarda but I actually wasn't, aren't I so clever' bit)

>>56422447
They purposefully made Meowscarada such a low-hanging fruit, the damage is going to last forever. It was de-facto engineered for coom and 'waifuing'. This is what sets its popularity as a shillmon apart from the others.

>>56398282
Fuckability and memeability.

There you have the reason

>>56422513
How does that set Mewscarada apart? GF have intentionally been making waifumons for generations

>>56421744
>>56422014
I thought it was tinkaton

>>56423151
No one cares about that 75 attack shitmon

>>56423151
It is Meowscarada. Even then Tinkaton belongs in the anthropomorphic waifumon category, so either way it would apply

>>56423159
t. Corviknight

>>56423151
Tinkaton doesn't feel that popular

>>56422876
No, they have been doing these since Gen VII. Meowscarada is the first blatant starter one.

>>56398422
zangoose is quite literally just a furfag mon to the point where it started a trend in japan of having days dedicated to pokemon and is the only one to have a second dedicated day exclusively for porn of it

>>56398282
>Have a better concept or design than its counterparts.
>TPC likes it, to the point of gaining privileges.
>Be easily available in mainline games.
>Be well remembered in the anime, especially by Japanese fans.
>Be successful with furries.

>>56420845
>most popular
most shilled*

Pikachu, Umbreon, Gardevoir, Lucario, Zoroark, Greninja, Decidueye, Cinderace, Sprigatito

>>56424802
What

>>56425071
How can you say that then say Pikachu as if the rat isn't the most shilled creature in existence

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>>56424669

Tinkaton was briefly popular on reddit, but at this point it's clear as day meowscarada is this gen's cinderace if not more so.

>>56425071
This lines up well >>56412256

>>56412256
Damn I guess Pecharunt and Terapagos are the most popular Pokémon

>>56427010
yep

>>56400141
The lopunny meme predates the vaporeon one though

>>56416341
>GARDEVOIR
stopped reading

>>56398442
>minmaxed stats
lucario is slow, frail, and has middling attack stats among offensive pokemon
>broken ability
they sucked

>>56427273
>Base 90 speed is now slow
>over 100 in each attacking stat is now middling
powercreep was a mistake

>>56427240
No that it has any bearing on the popularity of lopunny (or Vaporeon really)

>>56412141
>muh botting
Guess no polls are reliable then if you use this cope for all of them.
>Japan does not give a fuck about Unova
Doubt. Other than Unovamons seemingly doing better in japanese polls, japanese polls on favorite pokemon games also seems to have gen 5 higher than the west would.

>>56418518
Zoroark got a regional recently and just appeared in the anime, so it's not like you have to be a coomer to know of it.

>>56428741
Nigga, botting popularity polls is a big meme in Japan. It stems from forums like 2ch wanting to ruin the enjoyment of fangirls and fujos, since they ALSO botted polls for their favorite male characters.

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>>56429033
Chandelure must be popular to have everyone want to bot it then, it seems to do well in every poll.

>>56429117
It's because it's a random ass objectmon that got into Pokkén as joke pick. It was just so that Reshiram or Zoroark didn't get number one.

>>56429502
bro Chandelure was winning polls in Japan long before Pokkén existed

>>56428756
Do people still care about the anime?

bump

>>56429625
Nah you ain't convincing no one with that bluff

>>56429502
>It was just so that Reshiram or Zoroark didn't get number one.
What

>>56431022
https://pokemon-matome.net/articles/159450.html

>>56422525
should have posted the image

>>56431517
>All those wwwww
Bro, you're proving the point. Where do you think that poll was hosted? Do you think botting is a recent thing?

>>56432701
The point I was making was that Chandelure was winning polls before Pokken existed. He was making the assertation that Pokken is the reason and that poll was meant as proof that Pokken is not the reason for the Chandelure push.

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>>56432701
So the japanese just bot chandelure in like every poll then. I guess these numbers are botted too if noone really likes it.

>>56433348
Obviously they're ironically making art of Chandelure as a joke

>>56433348
Good, now compare those numbers to the other Gen V tags lmao. Is it so hard to believe some autists just latch onto random shit for fun?

Does it really matter if the popularity of a Pokémon is 'genuine' or 'ironic'?

>>56398282
Looks
Availability
How strong it is casually/in-game
How much screentime it gets in the game and anime
Lore

Note that being strong competitively but flubbing all of the above steps is actually a detriment to how popular a Pokemon is. Casuals who never touch online battles will SEETHE at an ugly Pokemon being on every VGC team because muh bro Arcanine is just as capable!

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>>56434779
It matters when it comes to sales and preferential treatment. Say an exclusive line of merch gets added, or that pokémon becomes protagonist of something important but no one buys it. That screws up the profit margins for producers, and shafts pokémon that are actually popular from getting catered.

>>56435654
But what if the people buy the merch ironically to keep up with the bit?

>>56420845
>Most popular Gen I mon
>Charizard

False. Pikachu and Eevee exist

>Most popular Gen II mon
>Lugia

Umbreon

>Most popular Gen III
>Gardevoir

>Lmao. Rayquaza

>Most popular Gen IV mon
>Lucario

Correct

>Most popular Gen V mon
>Zoroark

Chandalure you idiot

>Most popular Gen VI
>Greninja

Correct

>Most popular Gen VII mon
>Decidueye

Mogged by it's own base stage

>Most popular Gen VIII mon
>Cinderace

Snom, Corviknight, Alcremie, and Dragapult all mogged the shit out of this mofo

>Most popular Gen IX mon
>Meowscarada

Correct


You're selective memory is pigeon holed

>>56436406
you mean Pidove holed

>>56434845
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Bro?

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>>56398282
Something either cool or cute

>>56437702
This seems outdated, where's Gen 9?

>>56438583
None of the gen 9 Pokemon are worth looking at

>>56398299
protean

>>56411342
preach
-acelerrock could have saved the rock type

>>56438595
What does Protean have to do with anything?

>>56437702
Dragapult is the most popular Galarmon?

>>56439291
Every starter that has gotten protean/librero has been the shillmon/favorite of its trio
>Greninja
>Cinderace
>Meowscarada

This also holds true for dark types. Every single dark types starter has been the shillmon/favorite
>greninja
>baratigerofhealthymeta
>Hisuian Samurrott
>meowscarada

Game freak isn’t subtle about which pokemon they want you to like

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>>56424802
What the fuck are you on about?

>>56439674
>Gengar is the only Kanto Pokémon in the top 20
Gen1bros...

>>56439674
I wonder how this will look once recency bias wears off

>>56438617
Then Aurorus, Nihilego, Coalossal, and Glimmora get left out.
Rock type special attackers matter too, no exceptions.

>>56441285
...and I forgot Diancie.

>>56441285
Just give them Power Gem

I hate Pokemon that are popular

I only like Pokemon that are totally unpopular among the Pokemon fandom

I also like Pokemon that no one uses in the competitive game and that no one uses in the adventure game

>>56441297
Diancie, Nihelego, Coalossal, and Glimmora already do.
Now we wait to see if Aurorus finally gets to have Power Gem once Legends Z-A comes.
If Aurorus still doesn't by then for some shitty reason I'm not even pirating it.

>>56441363
I want to know who at GF hates Aurorus so much

>>56441549
Thankfully Game Freak was assed enough to give it Aurora Veil.
Stop treating Aurorus like shit Game Freak.

>>56427569
Base 90 speed was slow as early as Gen III if not sooner
same with base 115 attack stat, really doesn't give you much in terms of damage output without boosting moves or items or maximum stat investment

>>56427569
more on the point: base 100 speed and above was fast, base 125 attacking stat and above was strong

>>56434779
yes

magnemite popularity was ironic

>>56422513
I wonder if Meow will replace incineroar next Smash Bros?

>>56441700
They would play completely differently so I don't think one would supplant the other

>>56441726
Imagine how much art that ship will get if Meow gets in smash too.

>>56441623
What? Magnemite? What are you even talking about?

>>56441578
Sorry GF has to put their assets into shilling Charizard some more

>>56398422
He said Also, fucking retard.

>>56398759
only cringey attention seeking zoomer faggots find that funny and 99% of them in reality think feral Pokémon porn is zoophilia.

I find a Pokémon hot, so I jerk off to her and move on with my day till next time. I don't go laughing at memes about it or even bringing it up ever cuz I'm not an attention seeking underraged faggot.

>>56441700
Bold of you to assume we'd get a Gen 9 Pokemon in the next Smash game. Unless Sakurai decides to give every Generation a rep chances are the only new Pokémon is going to be whatever Gen 10 shillmon TPC wants.

>>56398282
not being a cartoon animal

>>56443507
We never got any Gen III, Gen V or Gen VIII reps, so it's all about timing. Incineroar only got in because Nintendo asked for another pokémon and Sakurai just wanted another grappler.

>>56444315
Rent free.

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>>56444315
Nope >>56439674

>>56444451
Damn you didn't need to murder him like that.

>>56444451
Stabbing yourself with your bones doesn't seem like the best defense tactic

>>56444325
Well yeah that's what I'm saying

>>56439674

>top ranked mon doesn't scratch 2%
See, this is the problem with those polls. They don't account for divisive and/or disliked Pokémon. If 1.7% of people have Meowscarada as favorite while 80% of people hate it, and 1.4% of people have
Fuecoco as favorite while 80% people just like it but prefer others, which one is more popular?
Not saying this is the case, maybe actually 90% of people love meowscarada, just giving an example of why those polls are unreliable

>>56446715
Looking at /vp/, if you add hate/dislike to polls like some negative modifier then all the starters would drop like rocks. Something random like Nacli could catch up to them since it got awarded "least hated pokemon" in a thread here.

>>56446715
bro if you complicate how to vote to much nobody is going to bother

Bump

>>56446877
Nobody said /vp/ would be a good sample

>>56444325
Imagine if we got Plusle and Minun in Brawl as the datamines suggest, pikaclones might have been the mandated Pokemon slot if that happened

>>56450159
Imagine if you got them in like a VR game where you could physically grab them

>>56450163
What

>>56450168
Like when VR becomes more advanced and you could use gloves to roam around in an open world, it’s online but you can find areas where there sometimes won’t be other trainers and you could find Pokémon and grab ahold of them so they couldn’t break free

>>56450174
I don't see how that's related to what was being discussed but okay

>>56439674
This poll has a fraction of the votes the previous one had, isn't there a recent poll with a larger pool?

>>56447792
There's no need to

Just asking 3 or 5 favorites improves immensely the poll's reliability

if you can't be bothered to choose 5 mons you might be a brainrotten gen alpha

>>56451831
>>56446715
>Pick 3 favorite pokemon 7/21/23-8/28/24
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hvsP3GgXZaGBM1nOy6Px8qy-JhRIihjHrMaYTUnIvZ8/
>Pick 6 favorite pokemon 3/23/24-3/27/24
https://pastebin.com/rFq663H7

>>56451888
shouldn't you like, make a thread for this instead of just posting this poll randomly in the middle of a thread? I mean I would imagine making a thread and putting the poll in the OP would garner more votes than doing this

>>56452200
the poll was already done, those are the results

>>56452203
Oh okay I'm just stupid

>>56451888
How did the weighting work? Is it simply number 1 is twice as much as number 2 etc. or was there a different weighting system?

>>56439674
That's a lot more varied than I was expecting

>>56398282
Being shaped like a friend

>>56398282
It needs to be hot to become popular and that's a good thing

>>56439835
>>56425990
I think its either the Fat preference art or vore porn art

>>56454968
There's a dedicated day for that in Japan?

>>56454954
explain all the mememons that get popular then

bump

>>56398282
The design has to satisfy at least one of the two Cs, that being
Is it cute?
Is it cool?
Now a Pokémon can satisfy both of these but it needs to satisfy at least one of them to be popular.

>>56457911
You forgot the third C
Can I coom to it?

>>56398299
>>56398303
You forgot to mention autism being a factor

>>56457911
>>56458337
This, some Pokémon has the triple C..*cough*tinkaton*cough

>>56458337
Depends on your mindset

>>56458355
Autism is a symptom not a factor

>>56458374
75 is none of those things thoughever

>>56458569
I send my condolence for your dead bird

>>56458447
Fine let me rephrase it
Can the group at large coom to it?

>>56458447
This >>56458799 is like one of the main reasons why males like Fairy type as it's the type with the most female/feminine mons dubbing it as the predominantly Harem/Goon/Waifu choice for males into Pokémon, that is why gay men hates Fairy type so much because it not only strong against the types that has the gayest dudes as fans, but it also fractures their sensitive masculinity as they can only watch Clefable smack the balls of Machamp sending it into a coma..

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>>56458986
Fairies are sexy, guys like cooming to them, gays hate them because guys like cooming to them and using them to kill gay types like fighting/dark/dragon types which are the favorite types for gays.

>>56459025
Fairy type is popular because of the coomers.

How has this thread lasted two weeks?

>>56458337
>>56458799
You idiot coom is not a factor in and of itself it is a result of a Pokémon being cute or cool

>>56459031
Do you have a single fact to back that up?

>>56459534
cute I get the reasoning for but who the fuck cooms to a Pokémon because it's cool?