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Drop Inn Edition

>I want to learn the game, where do I begin?
Download PTCGL at https://tcg.pokemon.com/en-us/tcgl
The game has a quick tutorial and a bunch of decent decks to get you started against other beginners or against the AI. Some of those decks are very close to meta too. You can also go to your local game store and see if people are playing Pokémon.

>I know how to play, how do I make my own deck?
You have a decent beginner's guide at https://www.justinbasil.com/guide
There's also the old /tcg/ guide at https://imgur.com/a/W4NkOu6
After that, look up meta decks and try to reverse engineer them to see how things work.

>Where to find meta decks?
For big irl events, go to https://limitlesstcg.com/decks
For online events, go to https://play.limitlesstcg.com/decks?game=PTCG
For japanese events, go to https://pokecabook.com/archives/1417

Previous thread: >>56424657

Old /tcg/ pastebin: https://pastebin.com/Ge95YuMA
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Is Maractus a cute?
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Was excited for baltimore decklists to drop to see what new stuff stellar crown brought to the table but I forgot it's not legal yet. Meaning we get to see all the stuff we've seen a million times before.
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>>56451844
The cutest!
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>>56451849

you mean the stuff we saw at worlds and now baltimore?

you're really gonna hate stellar crown, we're stuck with this format for many, more tournaments then the two we had this format
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>Go to my local store for a league challenge
>decide to judge to avoid byes
>new head judge won't do decklists, because the old head judge was like "big pika doesn't ask for them"
>first round, somebody starts lapras ex
>head judge just give them his shitty apple deck
Friendship cheese for the head judge was a retard choice...
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>>56452051
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>>56451710
TPCI shills
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This card is beautiful irl
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Just noticed the new "this ability doesn't stack" terminology. They usually say "You can't apply more than one X at a time" for effects like this.
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So are basic decks like future, ancient box and others like raging bolt, poison trio. Are they all just dead now? Because they're complete auto loses against terapagos, there's no cancelling cologne or anything to use vs it
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New thread
Same bots dumb posting
Sad!
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>>56452340
I never noticed that either since it is only on two cards.

>>56452368
Big basics usually play a lot of gust cards, so they can take 6 prizes that way. They can also stack gusts (catcher/iron bundle + boss). A surprise ursaluna-ex tech might win against a lone terapagos board state.
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>>56452374
>tcg thread
>talk about tcg
>WHY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TCG
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Play the game for 10 years before you speak to me, bot
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>>56452412
>sv7a_s1_LATIASex
>LATI SEX
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>>56452395
Oh yeah ursaluna can bypass terapagos being colorless hmm
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>>56452340
How OP would Terrapagos be if this ability stacked?
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>>56452374
>>56452428
Stop forcing this dumb bot meme. You're making yourself sound like a bot more than the ones you're calling bots.
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>>56451844
>>56451852
Fug, I was asleep.
>>56452051
Playing Ungapon and watching your opponent slowly realise that they can't do anything will never stop being funny.
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Hydrapple ex is pretty fun, but I feel like I only won the last game because my opponent gave me too long to set up. How could I make this deck more consistent? I was having trouble getting energy into my hand.
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>>56452779
4 of these
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>>56452779
Get rid of the Toadscruels. Get rid of Area 0. Get rid of TM Evo. Get rid of Air Balloons.
+ 1 Arven
+ 2 Bug Catch
+1 Rare Candy
+2 Iono
+4 Earthen Vessels
+1 Dipplin that cucks basics
+1 Rad Greninja
+2 Night Stretcher
+1 Fez
+1 Secret Box as your Ace Spec or Grand Tree
Run Festival Grounds for the jokes.
Also, consider fitting either Boss ir Counter Catcher.

In short, trim the fat, more searchers and more draw power
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>>56452779
>>56452904
Oh yeah, switch Buddy Coffins for Next Balls, getting your Ogrepons on board for more draw is more important than getting 2 Applin. This could help you run Squakabilly instead of Rad Greninja/Fez. You can also keep Iono at 2 and Run 1-2 Research.
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>>56452904
Ok, that all makes sense. Quick turn l question though, if I only have Hydrapple ex as an attacker what do I do about Stonepon or Mimikyu? Is it worth hanging onto baby Toed?
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>>56453485
baby ponpon
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Is Kyurem the only card that punishes lost zone faggotry
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>>56453485
Scoop or run Cologne. Also, you run Boss for that reason.
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>>56453494
>>56453510
Pon looks like a good choice here, especially with area zero going round.
Another question, would this be a good place to run Gardenia's Vigour?
>>56453484
Isn't this just Super Rod with cooler art?
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>>56452042
Local judging is always a hit or a miss
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>>56453567
>Gardenia
Nope
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>>56453567
Gardenia will rotate out soon anyways so might as well learn to use it without her. IT may seem good to attach more energy but the draw really sucks
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If they want high revenue for Pocket, they should include a monthly membership fee that funds them shipping all your earned cards to you once monthly (option to select which cards you want shipped in case you don't want the bulk cards). Only the cards you actually ripped from packs, not ones you gain from trade.
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>>56453898
Bro, the cards for Pocket isn't playable outside of the app.
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>>56453898
lol
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>>56453898
bot
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>>56454003
1. Of course they're playable. There's a new format with variant rules built into pocket.
2. It's not about playing the game, it's about collecting like a gacha player. Not everyone will want to pay to play, but a lot of people will pay for tangible collectibles, especially if it's a subscription fee to get tangible copies of the collectibles you already earned in game.
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>>56454749
>but a lot of people will pay for tangible collectibles
then you buy actual ptcg cards?

the entire point of pocket is it being DIGITAL. so they can achieve effects like this. that is literally their main selling point for it
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>>56454845
>graphic is clearly a 3D model
>rotating it just shows multiple flat layers
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>>56454878
I don't find it interesting, it looks kinda tacky yeah. but normalfags seem to love these 3d looking cards, and the immersive ones which are also just layers
https://x.com/pokebeach/status/1762491424367632835
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>>56454891
Eh, that one's kinda neat but nothing to get that excited about, especially as it's essentially just PikachuForest.mp4
It'd be way cooler if the cards actually animated when they used attacks and abilities. Obviously that'd be a massive gimmick but this is the gimmicky digital collector tcg so it would be more appropriate.
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>>56454749
>There's a new format with variant rules built into pocket.
Now if they only did that then it'd be cool, but why the hassle of making a whole new game? Also, Pocket reuses old TCG cards but changes their text into a Pocket-friendly variant.
https://twitter.com/ChipRichey/status/1824873934975889631
Do you see why they won't be playable outside of the app now?
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there's no way people are excited to play this shit, right?
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Can someone explain to me what pocket is
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I miss PTCGO sounds...
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>>56454973
login twice a day to open your free pack of cards for a dopamine boost
babymode ptcg tier gameplay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttIlVC9tKOs

retards are acting like it will replace ptcgl when it's not even the same audiences
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>>56452779
>no ace spec
what did he mean by this??
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Where in the uk can i paste a deck list and buy the singles? What website has this function as it would save me a job
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>>56455088
I forgor ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Anyone have a good roaring moon ex list?
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>>56454923
>they won't be playable outside of the app
Why do you think people couldn't just play with the pocket cards using the pocket rules etc if they printed out pocket proxies or if the pocket cards were released as tangible products? What am I missing here?
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beep boop posts
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>>56455228
Tangible products for that shit literally wouldn't sell, half the collection value is the layering effects >>56454891. Then the other half is they're just reusing arts of existing cards you can already get >56454923

And you'd have to be part of a very very small community to want to play physical pocket rules and card proxies. The actual ptcg physical is already kinda niche anyway compare to other magic and yugioh already. Meme formats like expanded and >GLC are smaller yet.
Where do you think the triple digit number of people wanting to play pocket physically will be at
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Stellar Pikachu reveal when
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Thanks to that one anon that posted a decklist with Hisuian Arcanine and Hisuian Bravery. It surprisingly does pretty well, especially paired with Froslass. Did some tinkering with it by adding Munki and other stuff.
Honestly every matchup felt like a close one, with Terapagos being a very favorable matchup due to being weak to Arcanine. Still haven't won against Lugia though.
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>>56455269
Why should I entertain your questions? You've moved the goalposts.

Ppl like collecting pokemon cards. Even if they're reusing art (pretty sad and dumb) the cards are still different. Not even worth arguing about, I don't work for TPC or their app development team.
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>>56455211
check links in op

>4 roaring moon ex PAR 124
>1 roaring moon TEF 109
>2 pecharunt ex SFA 93
>1 mew ex MEW 151
>1 squawkabilly SVI 162
>1 radiante greninjer ASS 46
>1 professor sada's vitality PAR 170
>1 professor sada's vitality PAR 239
>1 professor sada's vitality PAR 256
>1 professor sada's vitality SVHK 38
>1 boss's orders RCL 189
>1 goku DBZ 59
>1 judge SVI 176
>1 judge whistle TEU 146
>4 dark patch ASS 39
>3 poke ball JU 64
>4 trekking shoes ASS 156
>3 energy search FO 59
>2 pokemon catcher SVI 187
>3 prime catcher TEF 157
>0.5 custom catcher LOT 171
>1 shahrazad ARN 10
>3 pokestop PGO 68
>5 tropical beach BWP 99
>1 yu-jo friendship JUMP 007
>9 darkness energy
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>>56455774
GOKU!?
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>>56455774
>No pot of greed
Trash
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>>56455774
fuck tropical beaches are still so expensive..
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What kind of attack is stellar pikachu going to have? For them to hype it up like this as a key point of the set
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Greninja ex + Sparkling Crystal is godly.
>Shinobi Blade for free
>You can use Mirage Barrage for a single DTE.
Deck is gonna be cracked once we get Terra Ball.
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Wen expanded? I just want to stomp everyone with ADP again.
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>>56456148
What's sparkling crystal?
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>>56456156
Me except I miss the days of Greninja break
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>>56456171
?
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>>56456148
>Bricks once they lost vacuum or jamming tower it
Once lost vacuum rotates tools will honestly be so good. Nobody will want to run jamming tower when they can run area zero
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>>56456190
Genuinely what's the point of this. You could just include an energy instead of this.
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>>56456196
Arven gets a tool for free, most decks don't usually have a tool so it's a free grab off him
Plus it lets you manual energy attachment too
Meaning crystal + manual double turbo lets you snipe 2 mons for 100 turn 2. And it's repeatable if you attach another double turbo the next turn
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>>56456195
You should already be running at least one Colress to search for DTEs, which can grab you the Town Shop to deal with Tower. And you'll be sniping 2 backrow before they can vacuum you anyway, and that's IF they can even grab it. At least it's an opportunity cost between grabbing a candy or whatever they actually need off of Arven to deal with the threat you have on board. The benefit is that now Greninja is getting set up crazy fast, which puts it ahead. Now all you need is a decent search card. With Terra Ball, Greninja/Ogrepon might be a very competent deck.
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>>56456196
You only get 1 energy attachment per turn, genius. With Crystal, you're sniping back row on your second turn way more consistently if you went first, as now you only need a single DTE, and if you failed that, you're likely at least searching whatever you need while taking a KO off a free Blade, setting you up for next turn.

Off a Froakie on board, Arven can grab you Ultra Ball/Candy + Crystal to get you a powered up Greninja ready to go on turn 2. From there, all you need is DTE which you can Energy Lotto if you really want, or, you can just search for Colress off of Blade for next turn. If you're running Ogrepon, then all you need is a single energy switch + attaching for turn, which with the draw engine of the pons can also be relatively easy.

Compare that to what Charizard ex needs to get going properly, for example, and how much faster this is.
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>>56456190
Funny how this was supposed to help the stellar mons yet none of the decks use it, as far as I know anyway
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They should bring back the OG double colorless once turbo rotates.
Lugia is gone, vstar/vmax era is over. The current DTE users aren't even meta. Gaining back the original +20 damage wouldn't break anything
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>>56456277
Galvantula uses it, iirc.
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>>56456250
>Compare that to what Charizard ex needs to get going properly, for example, and how much faster this is.
What, a rare candy? Is this a joke?
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>>56456304
Your life is a joke m8
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>>56456277
As far as you know, anyway.
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>have a challenge this week
>Stellar Crown isn't legal yet
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>>56456304
>Charizard using candy to evolve vs. Greninja that easily searches TM devo and usually runs at least one, if not two copies
Thanks for the free win dude.
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>>56456311
I said Stellar, not Tera. Retard.
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Our local snorlax (both in that he plays snorlax and that he’s near as fat as one) gets ridiculously offended every time someone even mentions the deck he’s playing. Today somebody said “oh it’s snorlax” when they were investigating why a game went to turns. The fatass immediately scooped his cards up, calling the person “rude” and left in a fit.

It was really funny to watch, but I can’t help but wonder what’s going on in this persons life to make them so miserable. Hurt people hurt people, but this fucker is actually unhinged.
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>>56451826
How do I play Roaring Moon ex
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>>56456403
squak 2 energy
moon then Sada
dark patch
Pecharunt moon to active
go kill anything you want

repeat until wins
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>>56456280
I approve of this.
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>>56456401
He sounds like the type of person you should try to make feel unwelcome. You'll all be better off if he stops coming.
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>>56456171
>>56456277
bot
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Turns out Fezanskibidi is mandatory tech now but damn if it doesn't make Hydrapple zoom. Milling your deck with grass energy is pretty fucking funny, it turns out. Ty anons!
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>>56456451
Is this the easiest deck to play that's still good? I am not smart I just want to unga bunga
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>>56456578
zard
>>56456280
ill allow it
>>56456182
s a m e s i s
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>>56456196
Fucktard imbecile
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>>56456849
How do I play Zard
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Newbie here, my usual physical store sells the elite trainer boxes (astral crown and twilight masquerade) at 60 euros (65 in freedom units). Worth the money or not?
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>>56457108
I'd say no. Depends on how much the extra bits appeal to you but I usually judge them by the number of booster packs at LGS price, maybe with a bit of leeway for promos and gubbins.
So for me boosters are £4 each, nine boosters in the elite box would be £36. Granted I am a poorfag so I have to hunt for deals but unless you desperately want the extra bits you really overpay for the elite boxes at RRP.
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Anybody got a fun rogue deck?
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>>56457127
Around my place a single booster is around 5 euros so that comes to 45 euros for the boosters and about 10-15 for the extra bits
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>>56457141
Seaking is pretty fun
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>>56457198
Also for your consideration.
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>>56457199
Kek
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>>56457141
Wanna try my Magcargo? It does very well against Hydrapples that I've been encountering on ladder.
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>>56457211
>>56457198
I would try both of these if I can get a copy able list
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>>56457211
How do you do with energy acceleration? I've using Armarouge with magma basin but it's a bit clunky.
>>56457260
Pokémon: 10
2 Finneon LOR 40 PH
1 Bibarel BRS 121
4 Seaking MEW 119 PH
1 Bibarel CRZ-GG 25
1 Manaphy BRS 41
1 Fezandipiti ex SFA 92
1 Radiant Greninja ASR 46
4 Goldeen MEW 118 PH
1 Bidoof CRZ 111
1 Bidoof CRZ-GG 29

Trainer: 13
2 Ultra Ball SVI 196
4 Irida ASR 147
2 Earthen Vessel SFA 96
2 Candice SIT 152
2 Iono PAL 185
2 Super Rod bw6-5 20
4 Superior Energy Retrieval PAL 189
2 Letter of Encouragement OBF 189 PH
3 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TWM 223
2 Nest Ball SVI 181
2 Calamitous Snowy Mountain PAL 174 PH
2 Switch EVO 88
1 Neutralization Zone SFA 60

Energy: 2
12 Basic {W} Energy SVE 3
1 Reversal Energy PAL 192

Total Cards: 60
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>>56457199
With a few tweaks, you get a regional topping list.
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>>56457304
>Ungapon PhD
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GCY-MMMD-RP2-297
HHQ-PYXJ-P7W-KKT
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>>56457260
My bad. Here you go

Pokémon: 14
4 Magcargo ex TWM 29
4 Slugma LOR 21
1 Lumineon V BRS 40
1 Rotom V CRZ 45
2 Bidoof CRZ 111
2 Bibarel BRS 121

Trainer: 35
3 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
2 Earthen Vessel PAR 163
1 Nest Ball PAF 84
2 Night Stretcher SFA 61
1 Prime Catcher TEF 157
1 Super Rod PAL 188
2 Switch SVI 194
3 Ultra Ball PAF 91
2 Academy at Night SFA 54
2 Magma Basin BRS 144
3 Arven OBF 186
1 Boss's Orders PAL 172
1 Colress's Tenacity SFA 57
2 Iono PAF 80
2 Mela PAR 167
2 Professor's Research PAF 87
1 Team Star Grunt OBF 195
2 Exp. Share SVI 174
1 Forest Seal Stone SIT 156
1 Technical Machine: Turbo Energize PAR 179

Energy: 11
11 Fire Energy SVE 2

Live is on maintenance because of Briar and other bugs though
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>>56457285
>How do you do with energy acceleration?
Combination of Magma Basin, Exp Share, Turbo Energize, and Mela. Even with all that you're still going to struggle for energy, since you'd also need some in your deck in order for Mag's attack to work. So I usually just load up 2 Mags and not search for/attach more energies until one of them dies.
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>"girls"
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New to the game, what's the most aggressive deck at the moment
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>>56457552
Wish my big tiddy wife would distance her self from these weirdos, desu
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>>56456572
I tried like 5 different hydra lists this weekend and this one seems better than them all, ty anon
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>>56456994
it plays itself
>nest for rotom
>poffin for char and pidgey
>arven for candy and stone
>candy into pidgeot into candy into zard
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Is okidogi ex underrated? I've been trying out my own Brew recently and it's been doing okay but I'm not sure how to improve it. If all goes well you can be swinging for 300 on turn three, sometimes turn two if the stars truly aligned
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>>56457597
Charizard plays itself so much that I'm honestly shocked that it even needs Pidgeot
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>>56457585
Well this >>56452779 was my deck until I got some help from here. Anons in this thread can be surprisingly helpful if you catch them at the right time. Glad you enjoyed it though. It's good to play against current decks as Area Zero helps you but it's not mandatory to run yourself and you don't care about Terapagos.
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>>56457627
yeah okidogi is pretty fun. Ive been using the loyal three in a deck for the last couple weeks. if you use janine, energy switch and darkness patch you can get okidogi to hit on turn 1. Ive done it a couple times.
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>>56457686
I want to post my list but we're in maint
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i bought some cheap singles to build some decks to try with my friends
what are some cheap but fitting sleeves
for yugioh there is something like precise fit sleeves is there something similar for pokemon
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>>56457733
Indeed there are perfect fit sleeves for Pokemon too, we also have clear penny sleeves, however neither are good for shuffling or playing IMO. I'd recommend some Dragonshield or ETB sleeves from the Twilight Masquearde set onwards, whichever you find cheaper
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>>56457733
yes. I believe pokemon cards are the same size as mtg cards so theres some precise fitting sleeves you can find for them. But I couldn't tell you a good and cheap brand. I use vaultx precise sleeves which are probably on the more expensive side
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I don't know what I did, but I got to master league last season but now can barely get off the ground in ultra. I wouldn't mind a slow crawl but I am running into the same insta-loss (bad matchups) several games in a row. I assumed it was a bad meta for my deck and have switched multiple times, but a different bad matchup will just materialize multiple games in a row. I'm not playing stupid meme shit either. I have no idea what's happening.
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>>56457696
Please do when it comes back up i'm interested to see what numbers of each people are running
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>>56457857
Same. I started with a loyal 3 list but I removed munki ex because it wasn't doing much and instead added roaring moon ex... Still not sure if that was the right move but when okidogi gets going the deck does well.
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>Order a fez that I thought got lost in the post
>Ordered a replacement dabbing version instead
>Original order turns up 2 weeks later
Now I don't know which one to play with
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>>56457867
Yeah munki seems entirely shit. If his attack cost one less he would probably be okay at best
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>>56452042
Can somebody translate this post? I'm a gen1 boomer and don't get what any of this stuff means.
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>>56457939
>league challenge
monthy tournament, usually has a cost and gives many points compared to weekly league events
>avoid byes
a bye is when there is an odd number of players and you don't play a given round because you don't have an opponent. It's technically a win, but it only gives you 1 round point (wins give 2)
>decklist
for big sanctioned tournaments like a challenge or league cup (every 3 months) each player must list their deck in an offical pdf or paper sheet (picrel)
>big pika
your store or judges can get reported if the tournament handbook or organizer rules are not followed, and TCPi can go hard sometimes, but apparently this store didn't care or wasn't penalized or whatever, so they didn't do the decklists as supposed to
>lapras ex
this is from the latest expansion, which is not yet legal for sanctioned events, so by not making decklists and checking them, a player was able to start a round with cards not available to use yet
>head judge just give them his shitty apple deck
to remedy the above, the judge gave the player a deck that is fairly recent, but with no cards from Stellar Crown yet
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>>56457974
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>>56456401
our locals also has a snorlax player that is an asshole to everyone he plays and has gotten into fights with multiple people. guess certain decks archetypes appeal to certain people, he's also fat as well kek
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>>56458277
I think most stall players tend to be obnoxious types. There's a reason archetypes like that appeal to certain people. They know full well that their opponents are going to be miserable the entire time and they're willing to put people through that. It's not surprising to hear that they get upset when things don't go their way.
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>>56458340
We are lucky that Pokemon basically has no real strategies that aren't aggro. Stall and control will always be fringe strategies.
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Speaking of control, anyone been able to make this work?
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>>56458442
Forgot my pic because I'm a retard
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>>56458448
There's really no good way to utilize this attack. Better off playing Venomoth or Banette ex.
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>>56457857
My crappy homebrew
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>>56457468
Thanks for the Horse.
And got a full art Crispin.
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>>56458448
>>56458442
Too niche of an effect, half the time you can't even use it when you're forced to go first. And then it's still a dead card left on board after, a 2 prize liability
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>>56457886
cut both from the deck it is a meme & lysandrebait
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Say my ace spec is prized. If I take two prizes and don't see it, is it correct to play a heavy ball to shuffle my prizes to increase my odds of seeing it in my next two prizes?
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>the price of dragapult is going up again
This time it will be good for sure
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>>56459272
What kind of psychological question is this? Just take your prizes.
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>>56459272
Assuming this isn't bait, the heavy ball doesn't actually make you draw more prizes, and unless you're planning on cheating, shuffling the prize cards changes nothing if you don't know what they are. It doesn't even matter which one you pick, it's random. (No).
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>>56459272
Your Ace Spec is just a power card, it shouldn't be vital to your deck's function. If it's prized, it's prized. If you've already taken 2 prizes and you're trying to take more just to get it, do you even need it at that point?
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>>56459308

Isn't it effectively the monty hall problem? At the start it's a 1/6. You gain info as you draw prizes, and shuffling the remaining prizes is akin to swapping like in the monty hall problem, assuming your shuffle gives you different cards off your next ko.
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>>56459272
This is Monty Hall until you consider that you're shuffling them with heavy ball, effectively resetting the odds
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Looking for constructive criticism on this list.

Pokémon: 6
3 Origin Forme Dialga VSTAR ASR 114
4 Origin Forme Dialga V ASR 113
4 Lapras ex SCR 32
2 Hoothoot SCR 114
1 Fezandipiti ex SFA 38
2 Noctowl SCR 115

Trainer: 9
4 Ultra Ball SVI 196
1 Switch SVI 194
4 Crispin SCR 133
1 Hisuian Heavy Ball ASR 146
4 Iono PAL 185
1 Prime Catcher TEF 157
4 Nest Ball SVI 181
2 Boss's Orders PAL 172
1 Beach Court SVI 167

Energy: 3
16 Basic {M} Energy Energy 16
2 Basic {P} Energy Energy 13
4 Basic {W} Energy Energy 11

Total Cards: 60
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>>56459568
If you're depending on Crispin to use Lapras, you'd need Lumineon V, and want some Pokegears, more than 1. Or maybe add the Tatsugiri that does the same thing, since you already have Beach Court for pivot. Yes, I know you already have Noctowl to search for Crispin immediately, but you'll need to consider that you'd need 2 turns to set him up and you won't have the luxury of doing it at the start of all of your games.
To me that this deck seems be too slow, maybe consider switching Prime Catcher with Sparkling Crystal to get Lapras going faster.
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>>56459664
Another person recommended sacrificing Lapras's ability and foregoing the psychic cards and some of the trainers to add a couple Metang chains. Just get one water on Lapras and let the metal energies roll in on whatever I've got setup.
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Baltimore felt like a huge disappointment compared to every other regional this year. Prize wall sucked, no event merch, imploding chairs, everything ran hours late. Hopefully Gaming Generations gets their shit together.
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>>56459971
Everyone I know who went said the same thing. I don't know why TPCI doesn't run their own events.
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>>56459971
>>56460052

I heard that they were super generous with their side event rewards. Someone I know basically just participated in a challenge and was able to get a plush as a reward.
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>>56457857
Heres what I've been using right now. I've been copying a couple of the decks I saw on pokecabook and have been experimenting with different changes here and there but haven't settled on anything final yet.
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I have a challenge this weekend. What's a good best of 1 deck, pre-Stellar Crown?
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>>56457831
Iron Thorns is still an easy climb with like an 80% win-rate.
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>>56457733
kmc perfect get more than you need though quality control is lacking lately
for every100 i toss 3-4 of them bc of bubbles or whatever(imperfections)
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>>56460555
*a single canceling cologne appears*
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>>56460124
I don't get the point of munki ex or morpeko, why not more okidogi?
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What deck is best into zard right now?
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>>56460670
Good thing I have 4 thorns.
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>>56460743
Anything grass.
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>>56460738
munki ex's ability makes them a single prize attacker. morpeko has a no cost retreat so its easier to keep using dirty headbutt
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>>56460825
Still seems pointless to have more than one.
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>>56460069
Judges for the two events I entered gave out extra tickets.
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Alright bros, I have a ton of really old code cards. How do I trade them up to build a decent standard deck?
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>>56456148
what's your list?
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You work for TPC and you are tasked with writing an erratum to Lapras ex to make it meta-competitive. What do?
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>>56461466

1000 hp
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>>56461466
Larimar Rain deals 200 damage
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>>56461466
[ability] overflowing surge
this once per turn you may choose either a judge, a spectator, or your opponent, and have them suck your dick until orgasm. if you use this ability, your opponent takes 1 prize card.
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>>56461466
Additional effect of all basic energy attached to your Pokemon provide every type of energy until the end of the game. Essentially make every basic energy a Rainbow energy.
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>>56461466
Give it 250HP and a 20 damage block ability about its shell or something. It's too squishy to leave in the active as a liability after using Larimar Rain which may take a couple of turns to power up during which your opponent is probably ready to swing for two or three (iron hands ex) prizes.
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Has there ever been a Lapras printed with a bench switching ability? It's literally the ferry Pokémon, but that would be a pretty overpowered ability for a basic monster.
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>>56461001
yeah it might be better to just run one and slap in another roaring moon/okidogi or another way to thin the deck. I'm still trying things out to see what flows better for me. I mainly kept two in case the card gets prized since I tend to use munki as fodder. either to help set up an unfair stamp/fez next turn or if I need okidogi to sit on the bench to get set up with a patch.
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Does the game have any standardised throwback formats like yugiohs time wizard? i found my old stuff from the first 6 sets and want to make some decks to play with friends and it made me wonder.
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>>56461466
just have the 2nd attack do some damage
there's no attacks in the format which are used despite doing no damage (outside control trapping shit)
the format is too turbo to spend your attack for the turn just setting up, even cleffa has fallen off decks since it's fine to just let something die and use fez instead
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>>56461845
not sure what that is but we have formats where you can use old cards, good luck finding active players in your area though
>expanded
>unlimited
>glc
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>2 Cinderace ex decks in a row
Did some YouTuber make a video about it or what
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>2 Greninja ex decks in a row
Did some YouTuber make a video about it or what
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So like, what's with the power creep on this game? Do they even try to keep the power consistent with older cards or are we just on a consistent upward trend?
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>>56463880
HP bloat and damage bloat everywhere. But it's tolerable because V and ex Pokemon are overstatted ^_^
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>>56463880
They absolutely fucked powercreep a couple generations ago with tagteams, ever since they've been slowly reducing it back down. The current state of the meta is probably the most healthy it's been in a long time. Next year when the final gen8 era cards rotate, it will be even better.
A lot of the gen8 era are still powercrept compare to gen9 releases so they still dominate a lot, so once they're gone it'll be a fresh slate of gen9 stuff (unless they release some degenerate mechanic like tagteams or vmaxes again)
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>>56463880
you gotta sell the new cards somehow
why buy the new stuff then if nothing is more OP?
also, rotation
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>>56464303
Majority of sales is from normalfags being collectors anyway.
Metaplayers then buy singles off those collectors since regular art/ex are worthless to them since it's not a fullart. Can easily get a 3 set of zard ex for cheap but if you wanted the shiny SIR ones to bling your deck, good luck
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>>56464359
>missed the one i was talking about
do you want a playset for $10 or $300 kek
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>>56464359
>Metaplayers then buy singles off those collectors since regular art/ex are worthless to them
that's one good thing about this tcg being mainly known for its collecting. I don't have many people to play locally with but I can always get a shit ton of cards I need for free or dirt cheap because everyone else is trying to get a full art squirtle to collect or resell.
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>>56464410
It's actually really bizarre to me how most people play online. I have three game stores within driving distance of me and only one regularly hosts Pokemon tcg events. Despite this the cards hold value because a bunch of people collect but never play. This is probably the only game where that happens. You can make a good deck IRL for cheap compared to other tcgs as long as you're not chasing alts and full arts. The issue then is finding someone to play with. Most rogue decks are pennies even
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>>56451826
How hard is it to get a Worlds Spectator badge? I really regret not going this year since I always go to Honolulu every year. I coulda lined it with my trip. I felt devastated that I missed out on all the fun. I don't like playing the tcg enough to try to win an invite
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Have 3 card stores in my area, had a 4th, but the owner died. 2 of the stores have Pokemon tcg events, the other one tried, but sticks to the other card games. 1 of the ptcg stores has at least 10-20 players, the other one is lucky to have 5 players (people play, but the collectors like this store). We get more players, but only for Cups
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Been trying to work on an Exploud deck because it's a retarded card and want it to be annoying as fuck. Haven't got to play with grand tree yet which likely is great for ramping Explouds after picking it up with Turos experiment, but neutralization zone wins are funny when they happen. Only win when opponents fuck up but that's to be expected with a shitty meme deck.
Any recommendations to make this better or at least more annoying to play against, or a troll deck that isn't just stall that's fun to play with.

Pokémon: 7
4 Dudunsparce TEF 129 PH
4 Loudred PAR 149
1 Tatsugiri TWM 186
4 Whismur PAR 148
4 Dunsparce PAL 156 PH
4 Exploud PAR 150

Trainer: 12
4 Buddy-Buddy Poffin TEF 144
3 Counter Catcher PAR 160
3 Iono PAL 185
3 Professor Turo's Scenario PAR 171
2 Artazon PAF 76
2 Super Rod PAL 188
2 Pal Pad SVI 182
4 Arezu LOR 153
2 Eri TEF 146
1 Rescue Board TWM 225
2 Nest Ball PAF 84
1 Neutralization Zone SFA 60

Energy: 4
2 Gift Energy LOR 171
2 Basic {L} Energy Energy 12
4 Jet Energy PAL 190
2 Reversal Energy PAL 192
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>>56464955
Try it with this guy for extra troll.
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>>56464979
Oops downloaded the thumbnail instead of the actual image.
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>>56464955
You can also try Salazzle for the "if this mon didn't evolve during this turn" combo. If so you'd probably want to include Xerosic.
Also I think it's better to use Night Stretcher instead of Super Rod, since you don't have much basic energies anyway, and it'll let you evolve your Loudred into Exploud immediately if it got KO'd last turn.
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>>56464955
Tree seems way better, it lets you prepare a bunch of loudred for following turns since you can blitz an exploud out turn2. If it sticks around it can be used on dunsparce too. Most decks are running multiple stadiums like area zero, so it's harder to get neutralization to stick
Xerosic is usually better than eri nowadays if you want to disrupt. Eri was better vs zard but there's not much reliance on rare candies vs the current meta
A mimikyu could also be cute and a way to finish off after they've had a lot discarded
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>>56465112
>zard but there's not much reliance on rare candies vs the current meta
What does zard do instead?
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>>56464955
if you're going to use the tree, you can fit in a couple of colress for searching the stadium and energy search
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>>56463960
Would be hilarious to play his deck against decks from older formats.
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>>56464359
Why is the gold rare less expensive than
>>56464366
The full art secret illustration rare?
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>>56465893
because the gold is less secret
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>>56465893
>>56465908
Probably also because the full art is an illustration shiny of a meta and popular Pokémon; it ticks every box on the value checklist. The gold card is just the full art but gold, it honestly looks a bit wank.
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Maybe I'm a smoothbrain but how does the Iron Thorns ex deck work? Is it just because your opponents don't get any abilities to set up with? Is it that strong that items can't help there?
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Neutralisation Zone may not be the strongest card but it may well be the funniest.
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>>56466110
It primarily functions to deny energy acceleration so decks can't efficiently KO the Thorns. Couple this with a few hammer hits to stop/slow manual attaching and Thorns can chip away a win
Drago doesn't have an attacking plan without abilities, Bolt struggles to KO thorns without abilities Garde ceases to function (if they don't see flutter), and Zard needs you to miss/not see hammers
It's a meta call above all and ceases to function when you pit it against shit that has energy accel outside of rule boxers or against decks that are teching against you with a cologne or two.
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>>56464981
>>56465697
Forgot the little mushroom nigger existed. Got grand tree today and it's fucking retarded when the deck works. Grand tree accel into Exploud on turn 2 after someone goes all in on their own bullshit usually leads to a win over like 25 turns of discarding actives. Still sucks ass when it doesn't work or bricks but having a lot of fun with it.
Any other fun deck ideas?
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>>56465465
Mean as the meta isn't prominently charizard like before. It's a lot more raging bolt, palkia, regidrago instead. They aren't as heavily reliant on 1 card like rare candy to function. They're already turbo decks they don't mind losing items
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https://www.pokebeach.com/2024/09/pokemon-tcg-pocket-new-cards-crown-rares-gameplay-mechanics-and-soft-launch-date
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>>56466618
>The player going first can’t draw a card on their first turn or use an Energy. You can use a Supporter card. You can’t have more than 10 cards in your hand.
>there are no Energy cards in the game. Instead, when it’s your turn, an Energy will be generated in your Energy Zone.

>The other in-game currency is “Poke Gold,” which you purchase with real money.
>5x Poke Gold costs $0.99
>15x costs $2.99
>50x costs $9.99
>500x costs $99.99
>Each Poke Gold reduces the pack opening timer by two hours.
>If you want to open another pack right away, it will cost 6x Poke Gold (around $1). If you want to open 10 booster packs, it will cost 60x Poke Gold (around $12).
>You can’t use more than 720x Poke Gold per day (120 packs, or $150).
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>>56466618
What I expected for the most part
Gameplay wise I noticed
>You need 3 prize points to win
This gives me the impressions exs will dominate here as well, making the opponent KO 2 exs seems way better than one ex and a 1 prizer
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>>56464621
Either have to register and hope you win the lottery for a chance to buy a ticket (1 day was $15 this year) or find someone selling their ticket.
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>>56466655
>5x Poke Gold costs $0.99
>If you want to open another pack right away, it will cost 6x Poke Gold
>50x costs $9.99
>If you want to open 10 booster packs, it will cost 60x Poke Gold
So like all other gachashit, they put the put the amount you can buy right under the amount you need, so you have to pay twice every time.
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>>56466618
>>56466655
>There will be no ranked mode available for the game, at least at launch.
>There are currently no plans for integrating Pocket with Play! Pokemon events.

THE PTCG LIVE KILLER LADIES AND GENTLEMEN
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>banned in countries which ban gambling
>possibly time limited cards due to premium pass
as if the tcg wasn't gacha enough
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>>56461845
Nothing standardised afaik, the closest is GLC I guess.
But you can regularly find custom formats to enter on limitless here: https://play.limitlesstcg.com/tournaments/upcoming?game=PTCG&format=CUSTOM&platform=all&type=online
I regularly enter those myself, it's a fun change of pace from standard.
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>>56464955
why do you run reversal and lightning?
to attack with exploud?
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>>56467453
>this man has had a kid before you
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Has anyone tried a Zard with Noctowl build yet? The more I think about Briar and Zard's options (multiple Duskulls benched + Pecharunt for instance) the more I wonder if his best build is an AZU build.
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>>56467556
the thing with pidgeot is that you're more iono proof as you can bring what you need
it also helps with the setup
noctowl requires you to be set up already
what's your play then? arven for candy and forest seal? how do you bring up the noctowls
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>glc
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>NOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T PLAY STALL, CONTROL, OR MILL DECKS!!!
Watch me :)
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>>56467633
looks pretty, do you have a copyable list?
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>>56467599
Oh you're making fun of the guy who came up with the format
You shoulda told me the last time I asked
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>>56467633
Who are you quoting?
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>>56466730
There's no gust in pocket either, so you ohko something with an ex then retreat it. And there's nothing they can do about it lmao. The ex had enough HP to eat 1-2 attacks and they got zero prizes for it
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>>56466618
Somehow Rush duels have more strategy than this collect e'm all version of tcg holy sh......
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>>56467767
>There's no gust in pocket
?
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>>56468010
This isn't gusting, this is repelling. Iron Bundle does the same but isn't considered gusting for the same reason: they choose.
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>>56468049
lol
lmao even
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>>56468052
You have to be a newfag to the game to not understand that gusting is specifically referring to you choosing a mon to bring up and has been since base set. Otherwise anon is right, you can just retreat your ex and have patsies to promote in case they do run Sabrina.
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Bot response
you tried
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>>56466618
>Trading will not be available at launch.
lol they are still trying to figure out how to implement trading WITHOUT allowing people to just make 100 alt accounts to funnel all the best cards to their main account.
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Why hasn't there ever been a lapras card with a ferry service bench-switching ability?
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>>56461466
Give it an ability: 'Once during your turn you may throatfuck Bou until she cries'. Stops her terrible stream commentary at least.
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>>56468384
You asked this already
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>>56466618
>no trading at launch, no ranked, no irl, no worlds
kusoma-
erm, sasuga dena
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>>56468580
>worlds
>mobile
GO play tap sim
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>>56468412
Who is that? The fat blonde girl?
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>>56468547
No.
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>>56468591
Well maybe you haven't but this guy >>56461702 already did
And no one fucking knows how ask Creatures
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>>56466618
>Players will construct 20-card decks. You can’t have more than two copies of a card in your deck.
potentially only 10 unique cards per deck seems very shallow
>The player going first can’t draw a card on their first turn or use an Energy. You can use a Supporter card. You can’t have more than 10 cards in your hand.
okay so going 2nd seems like the play. not being able to attach an energy first turn is way worse than the no supporter rule for normal formats.
>There will be no ranked mode available for the game, at least at launch.
This could potentially kill the game. Lots of tcgfags just wanna climb a ladder.
>By default you can open one booster pack every 12 hours, for a total of two packs a day. The app will begin a countdown timer for when you can open your next pack.
I fucking pray this shit rolls hours over into the next pack. Having to open it every 12 hours on the dot to be efficient would be a nightmare
>An in-game currency called “Pack Hourglasses” allows you to reduce the pack opening timer by one hour. If you use 12, for example, you’ll be able to open another pack right away.
lol so this is the currency everyone will hoard so they can open a bunch of a new set the moment it drops
>Item cards like Poke Ball are not available in Genetic Apex‘s main set. This will prevent them from clogging up pack openings. You can easily get Item cards through tutorials and other means.
okay this is legit good. items are always such an important part of any format so getting them for free is nice
>When you first open the game, you’ll get a booster pack with one of the three Kanto Pokemon as well as its version.
so everyone will reroll until they get charmander lmao
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>>56468643
>I fucking pray this shit rolls hours over into the next pack. Having to open it every 12 hours on the dot to be efficient would be a nightmare
lmao no. Their intention is gonna be to get people to open the app twice a day. If you could stockpile both packs for 1 login that defeats the purpose
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>>56468643
>so everyone will reroll until they get charmander lmao
I'll insta pick Squirtle :)
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>>56468643
>>56468678
https://www.serebii.net/tcgpocket/preview/
>For all players, you can open two packs every 24 hours, specifically with a pack recharging for 12 hours. You can't stack these packs so once you hit 2 available, the counter will stop until you next open them.
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>>56468726
>A small note we were also given is that you can collect cards in other languages. If you open cards in one language and then change your game to be a different language, say Japanese, you can then collect the Japanese variants of the card, in addition to the English versions you have.
Holy autism, lets gooooooo
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>>56468756
>Genwunners begging europeans for their charmander cards for the collection
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>>56468726
Thank god. I assume this goes up to 3 packs when you have the premium pass shit, since that seems to give a pack every 8 hours for a total of 3 per day.
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This fucking dogshit client. I just lost a match against Lost Box that I had won because of a fucking glitch with Pidgeot. I'm testing Area Zero Zard and play 3 stadiums, they gust up Rad Zard but that's fine because I can Pidgeot for Area Zero and bench Pecharunt to promote a Zard. I know my prizes are Dusclops, Dusknoir, and something else (fuck you too you rigged fucking game). I have used 1 Area Zero that was bounced (let me remove a Rotom and Duskull since I was on 3 prizes left).

So I Pidgeot for the stadium since I have Pecharunt in hand, and it's not there. Because of this, I lose on the spot to Sableye spread. I double check the discard, only the one that got bounced, and I know two can't be prized because both Dusclops and Dusknor are in there. Is this a known thing? I'm fucking pissed off at this shitty client.
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>>56468756
It's such a minor thing but that one little feature is gonna make them sooooo much fucking money off autistic whales who want the true FULL collection.
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>Rerolled into don't concede 2 games mission
it's fucking over
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>>56469174
>vs a snorlax stall straight away (fuck you i left)
>then vs a deck that hits me for weakness (i won)
>then vs another deck that hits me for weakness (i lost)
LET ME CONCEDE SHITTY MISSION
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Even after all the other reveals we've gotten for Pocket, the Pikachu EX from the original trailer is still blatantly the best card.
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>>56469330
Moltres charging up zard ex seems pretty degenerate too. That's one thing that can break through pika ex. 2 prizers will dominate this game lmao
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Why would anyone play pocket
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>>56469351
perfect game to play while on the shitter
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>>56467536
Yeah. Attacking with Exploud becomes really useful if it manages to get into late game. I've started running 4 reversals. It's enough energy to retreat and the damage kills most draw supporters, basic evolutions, and two hits draw support EXs. Lighting is there just for something you can super rod back for late game or needing to retreat, and when I was trying luxray in the deck at the start.
It's been working a lot better after changing some shit around but still gets fucked from bad opening hands or drawing garbage.
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>>56469351
free dopamine
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>>56469351
You get to be like the black guy in the trailer. Look how happy he is with his white lady friend.
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>>56469174
I got this too yesterday and the game crashed in both matches I played
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dearest ptcg friends. I need help with my rat bastards
I want to use some of the new colourless support cards, but I don't entirely know what to use or swap. any ideas fellas?
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>>56470477
Most of the Colorless support are only usable with a Tera (Glass Trumpet, Noctowl) or having a big board (Bouffalant takes up 2 bench spaces)
So here's my suggestions
>-2 Basculin +2 Terapagos
You already have Rotom and Poffins for setting up
>-2 Reversal Energy +2 Area Zero Underdepths
For the reasoning above
>-2 Energy Lotto +2 Colress Tenacity
Can get you Area Zero + any energy so it's a win-win
>-1 TM Evo +1 Hyper Aroma
Can get you 3 Mausholds or 2 and a Bib, with the cost of not evolving on turn 1 if going second
>-1 Nest Ball -1 Ultra Ball +2 Bouffalant
Too much Pokemon search. Rotom + Poffin + Nest Ball is enough to fill your bench
>-1 Maushold ex +1 Night Stretcher
I don't see a good reason to have 5 Mausholds in your deck when you can only have 4 in play. And Night Stretcher can get you a Maushold back immediately after it's KO'd
>-2 Gift Energy +2 Glass Trumpet
Too much energy with no way to accelerate them. You'll end up only every attaching 1/3 of the total amount of energies you have. Glass Trumpet helps you set up other Mausholds on the bench. Oh and Maushold ex's attack already draws cards so Gift is useless most of the time.
I guess that's all from me. Personally I'd go with more Arvens and have Vengeance Punches in the deck but I can't seem to fit them in yours. Have fun, rat bastard. One day I'll actually become one of you.
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>>56470699
honestly, anon. I agree with the gift energy bit and the hyper aroma, but I can't afford terapagos .w.
any other ideas for tera mons?
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I need some help. I know some of you don't really want to help a control player but still.
How do decks that rely on trapping deal with Pecharunt? I'm playing Wugtrio mill (+Spidops Ex and Gravity Gemstone), it's not Snorlax, but how does Snorlax even deal with Pecharunt? Is it a complete instalose?
Is there no tech I could use? Closest thing to work I tried was just sending Klefki on active and hoping they dont gust, I guess.
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>>56469174
4 Abra (Twilight Masquerade), 56 energy. Lose without conceding turn 1, every time, even going first. Challenge done in 2 seconds.
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>>56469126
Okay, so this is really embarrassing, but I checked the deck in the editor and it turns out I only put one AZD in the deck... I'm such a fucking moron... ugh, I'm going to be so mad at myself all day and my dilation is going to suck :/
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I love dragons much bros, I was playing it before it got big. Gonna be sad when it rotates. Is there any deck right now that plays remotely similar?
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>>56471905
slowbro (king?)
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>>56471905
>>56472001
Slowking
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>>56472001
That sounds promising actually, any chance you have a list?
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>>56388123
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>>56472080
Seems fun but setup also seems slow
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>>56472233
You could also replace Garde with Xatu and just put big number attackers like Conkeldurr, but the damage limit is 250.
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I'm glad Stellar Crown had such a big impact on the meta. It was getting boring seeing the same old decks winning every tournament.
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>Pocket
>20 card decks
>2 is a playset
>no energy maindeck
>only 3 bench space
>no prize cards to brick you
>only takes 3 "points" to win
So we already know exactly how every deck is going to be built.
2x fat EX mon you wanna attack with
2x another fat EX mon you wanna attack with
16x trainers
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>>56472422
I won't be surprised if an easy deck to use will be pikachu ex, won't even need to evolve that one
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>nobody attacks until they get a gust
I hate this meta so much.
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>>56471266
It's instalose, yeah. Your ONLY hope is Erika or Flute before they bring in the Pecharunt ex, but those are 2 big IFs.
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>>56472468
>attack their cleffa/charmander/hoothoot they leave in active
>immediately get counter catchered while they can continue using a draw supporter
counter catcher is too strong
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skill issue, chud
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>>56472487
/tcg/ has always been a pro-blogging thread. Lurk more, newfriend.
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>have game if I artazon for scream tail but I overlook it
>have to larp for the rest of the game that scream tail is prized
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>>56472561
the one good thing about pocket is people will finally realize how shitty the prize card system is, and want it changed to prize points too
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>>56472583
Everyone already knows prize cards are shit
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>>56472601
Some retards seem to think it's a good thing whenever the topic is brought up. Pocket will just clearly show to everyone how bad the system is at long last
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post your apple lists
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>>56472583
>>56472605
What's wrong with prizes
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>>56472700
If you genuinely have to ask what's wrong with the mechanic then there is no saving you.
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the best part is that no matter how much these people cry about prize cards, nothing will change

they are literally weeping uncontrollably into the void, bawling their eyes out, and no one will ever comfort them
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It's just the same bot crying about prize cards. Should just pay her no mind and tell it to play a new card already.
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>>56472779
The gimmick is so shit that Pocket has it removed completely, proving TPC is fully aware of how trash it is. The chances of them finally ditching it for the main game have never been higher.
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>>56472700
players don't know how to shuffle properly
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>>56472700
it stops me from winning so its bad. except the times it stops my opponents from winning then its good
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>>56472700
When you build a deck you should expect every card to be in there, not randomly cucked by prize cards
>just build around it
that's why all decks now are the same 58 base, they're built with redundancy and run multiple copies to be consistent, instead of having more 1 offs (which could end up prized)

>>56472779
pocket already removed it, if it proves successful we could get it here too. there's a lot of down time between now and gen10 anyway. gen jumps are when rule changes happen
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>>56472700
>always have a chance to brick your deck by having all 4 of a card prized
>prizing specific tech cards can make you auto lose matchups
>limits deckbuilding by having players include more copies of a card than they'd normally run, just to help avoid them all being prized
>the most optimal way to play is tedious and timewasting, having to scan your whole deck the first time you search to figure out which cards are prized
>unlike every other card game with this type of mechanic (duel masters, one piece, etc) Pokemon has it ass backwards where the aggressor gets more cards instead of the one on the receiving end receiving extra cards. Other games let you add a "prize" or "life" card to your hand when you take damage, where pokemon gives it to the one who made the KO.
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Like if they're gonna keep prize cards around, you should at least be able to view what's prized before your opponent shuffles them. It saves you having to spend 2 minutes deckchecking
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Reminder that nothing about this game's function changes if prizes are are changed to 6 tokens/counters/etc that you have to take. You get to play with your entire deck and have exactly the same win conditions. The only reasons you'd want it to stay are if you have the same RNG fetish TPC does, or you're so autistic that it has to stay because it's been here from the beginning.
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>>56472898
With how many games end in time draws at major events, you'd think they'd be making changes like this.
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>>56472911
They already allow so much time to prize check by looking through the entire deck, and even allow notes to be taken of what you suspect to be prized. What harm could it be to just skip all that and let players look on turn 1 if it saves time? Every other match, you hear casters say "I don't know if we have enough time for a game 3".
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Hey fellas. I want to play the pokemon tcg with my son, who will be 7 next month. He's super into it.
I read the guide in the sticky on deck creation, but am hoping you anons have advice on how to build a deck that is less complicated so he stays engaged. Would it just be 2 aggression decks with more energy and more variety of pokemon, and very little utility type cards?
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>>56473071
Just get 2 starter decks. Those are always very simple and actually serve the purpose of a STARTER deck.

Pokemon TCG Pocket also comes out on mobile at the end of October. It's a super dumbed down version of the game.
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>>56473071
nice hbd to your son next month. the league battle decks are good like another anon said as well as the new pocket app coming out. the battle decks won't break the bank either, Ive seen a bunch of them under $30 online for a set of two. some of them even come with guides on how to upgrade the decks and explains why you should add them. which might help your son understand how to deck build a bit more. I think theres also another product called battle stadium which comes with two decks, some boosters, rules and other junk that you can use to set up a typical match.
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I wish I had $10 for every time I've heard OmniJoe say the word "cherrypick"
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>>56473071
the battle academy is quite good, it comes with a hard board like monopoly or other board games, and it has 3 starter decks, 2 are beginner with numbered cards and step-by-step playthroughs, while the third one is a bit more advanced for him to try once he understand how to play freely. it just doesn't have sleeves but you'll save on a pair of mats
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Will it be possible to play Pocket next week without a VPN?
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>>56473071
the battle decks are probably what you want. they're mostly pokemon/energy so it's a good start into learning it without a bunch of tech cards etc. they're fairly forward and aggressive in what you're meant to do with them so it's intuitive
there's a lot of battledeck options I've seen looking (houndoom, melmetal, greninja, lucario, ampharos, chienpao, meowscarada, miraidon) so you could pick out some of mons he likes

they're pretty good bases to work off, you could then add cards you get from booster packs into the decks to improve them over time. or even merge multiple battledecks together like miraidon+ampharos for an electric one
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>>56473071
make sure to pre-order the Charizard deck from GameStop
it comes out November and will be hard to find in person
it is the strongest commercially available over-the-counter product
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>>56473263
there's no info about that



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