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I feel middle starters are underrated. Everyone loves the base starters for being cute and the final evolutions for being cool, but the middle evolutions typically get glossed over despite spending the most time with you in game. They typically evolve around the 2nd gym and don't evolve again until around the climax of the story. The bulk of your adventure are spent with these guys. Rate them and critique other's tastes

https://tiermaker.com/create/middle-stage-starter-evolutions-gen-1-9-15333979
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>>56457059
Wartortle below Raboot
kill yourself
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>>56457059
>don't evolve again until around the climax of the story
Usually my starter is fully evolved before the climax of the story.
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Idc if it's a middle evo or whatever. Pokemon is Pokemon.
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>>56457097
>Ivy and Wartortle at the top
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>>56457074
Wartortle is ugly af
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ivy next to braixen just because
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>>56457059
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>>56457097
le epic contrarian
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>>56457059
>despite spending the most time with you in game. They typically evolve around the 2nd gym and don't evolve again until around the climax of the story. The bulk of your adventure are spent with these guys.
None of that is true, you spend most of the game with the final evolution. Middle starters are just poorly designed overall. They have too much compromise. They should just throw out the design guidelines and design unique middle stages like Pupitar or something. It's such a waste to make a design solely to bridge the gap between two superior designs.
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>>56457059
I like them, I refuse to ever evolve Dewott or Torracat
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>>56457059
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>>56457059
This list is pretty perfect. Though I'd bump Quaxly 2 up to B just because it's a less goofy version of stage 3
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>>56457059
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>>56457059
retarded furnigger award goes to you
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>>56457097
It IS that good and you literally like Braixen, fuck off. You are infinitely more generic than any Bayleef fans.
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Feel like I was a little too generous, but I like most of them.
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he has samefagged 3 times so far lmao
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>>56457404
I mean I kinda figured a topic about middle stage starters would bring the guy obsessed with a single stage starter over. I count 4 that could be him as Wartortle and Quilava are also consistently rated quite high, only one where they don't make the top 3
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>>56457467
Who, OP or Wartortleanon?
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>>56457467
yeah I guess I see the 4th one as well
>>56457493
don't play retarded
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Most of these guys are good for what they are
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>>56457059
>don't evolve again until around the climax of the story
Wut? They usually evolve around the fourth gym.
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>>56457059
>most time with you in the game
I can't think of a single game where I don't spend the most time with the final evo unless I box the middle for looking stupid(like the spic croc), in which case it becomes the first I spent the most time with
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>>56457493
>>56457097, >>56457329, >>56457302, and >>56457153
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>>56457748
>Ivy at top so it's one person
Take your meds
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>>56457774
thanks for outing yourself.
Welp, there we have it.
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I want a starter that is anti-fairy type, that no one uses in the adventure, that no one uses in the competitive and a starter that no one likes.
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>>56457819
only one of them is me
feel free to be delusional though
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crazy how this one particular pokemon almost always appears at the top in this thread yet when we look at the board in general for the past few years no one seems to give a shit about that particular pokemon apart one autist. It's like if a town has a poll for which footwear they love the most to wear during the day and the results show that 9 out of 10 people love wearing sandals, but when you look outside, no one is wearing sandals but that one weirdo that always does who everyone make fun of for wearing sandals and is known for being manipulative and deceitful. Surely something must be wrong with that poll.
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>>56457823
Ivysaur
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>>56457996
1- real people post in this thread
2- porn bots spamming coom threads are not real people (https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/56088259/#56088259)
3- see dead internet theory
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>>56458102
thanks for continuing to prove all the suspicions right, dumbass
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>ivycuck was samefagging and finally came out of hiding when called out
just like everyone suspected
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>>56458228
well this shows that this thread is worthless
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>>56457404
>>56457467
they called it and were right
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>>56457823
doesn't exist
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>>56457996
why did ivytrans feel so attacked by this post? Enough to even come out of hiding and randomly post one of his troll threads about braixen
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Insisting on pushing a fanfic doesn't change reality
I only made one Tierlist. Deal with it
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>>56458275
it's easy to bait that mong. he has zero impulse control
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>gets btfo
>it's b-b-ait i swear
underage behaviour
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>>56458296
>zero impulse control
Sudanese behavior
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>>56457059
Monferno is my favorite
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Middle starters generally suck
Actually middle stages generally suck (except in gen 9 which had some of the best in the series)
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>>56457059
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>>56459493
>except in gen 9
>puts the gen 9 middle stages in low tiers
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>>56457059
Floragato is the best middle stage starter, no contest.
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>>56457823
Delphox is your choice pal
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good tastes ITT
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>>56457059
Now that I am looking at them all in one place, I can see why no one cares about them. That top tier is agonizingly uninteresting.
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>>56460594
>can see why no one cares about them
Japan is currenly trending a hashtrag for mid-evos
#見た人も好きな中間進化ポケモンをあげる

Western Pokemon fans are soulless and just care about shillmons + porn
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>>56460597
Not saying the west is better, but Japan has notoriously bad taste.
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>>56460601
true.
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>>56460597
Japanese fans don't really care about middle stages compared to the rest of their lines either, looking at their polls.
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>>56460622
I stopped caring about Pokemon polls after I realized it's always bullshit because porn addicts would vote shit like Lucario without ever playing a pokemon game.

Check pokemon center sales rankings, it's totally different from pokemon polls
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>>56460626
Looking at the current center sales rankings, I see recency bias, shillmon... and Chandelure
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>>56457059
>>56457074
this, among other absurdities
shit taste
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Based only on design.



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