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Is it in your top 3?
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it’s a worse version of the worst base versions, so no
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Bottom 3 unironically
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Top 5, maybe. Base Moon is probably top 3 under Black and Heart Gold.
Sun and Moon are so underrated. When will you all come around...
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>>56458987
no, lol. doubt it would break top 10
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>>56458991
>>56459192
Yet when I made a thread asking /vp/ if I should play SM or USUM, every single reply said I should play USUM instead. Where were you SM fags?
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>>56459216
people who would recommend you play any gen 7 game are already retarded so of course they're gonna prefer ultra changes
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>>56458987
I've played nothing after XY but Gen 7 competitive made me quit Showdown for years
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No, entirely because of the mandatory unskippable cutscenes and the GameCube titles do everything it does better. It's still extremely good though, and is leagues above mediocre games like XY, let alone actual garbage like DP or SS.
>>56459216
They're just retards who care more about Lillie than actually fun video games. USUM is the better overall experience and the Hau arc in USUM is way better and more interesting than Lillie's garbage story.
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>>56459216
I see replies like that in almost every thread about USUM. it might be a minority opinion but it's notnuncommon
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>>56458992
That's not fair at all. S/S, S/V, and BD/SP all exist. Bottom 5 is far more accurate.
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>>56459216
I only came back to this board yesterday after two years. Sorry, I failed you... Still, if you liked USUM you should play through SM. The USUM story changes (especially the Ultra Space stuff) just totally detract and distort what was originally a decent, cohesive, sweet story.
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>>56459243
bdsp and sv were both more enjoyable than this heap of dogshit
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>>56459192
>When will you all come around...
Unironically never. I hate it. I just hate Gen 8 and 9 even more. Gen 7 was overall the best of nu-Pokemon (6+) in terms of gameplay, but that's a 5/10 standing out among a bunch of 3/10s. The new Pokemon designs are genuinely my least favorite in the series, and Primarina dethroned Feraligatr as my least favorite starter so hard that I always put it in its own spot on a tier list right below F-tier.
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>>56459247
They don't let you turn off the EXP All, USUM does. For that alone USUM mogs the shit out of Gen 8 and 9.
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>>56459226
I skipped most of Gen 6 and 7 because I hated Fairy type so much I refused to even touch Showdown. Now I pretty much only play Showdown and replay Gens 3 - 5.

Even to this day I still refuse to use any Fairy type Pokemon or moves on my team.
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>>56459259
based.
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>>56459243
Arven's story arc in VIolet is pokekino. He redeems the entire gen all on his own.
>>56459251
Popplio line is my favorite starter. You have no appreciation for graceful beauty...
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>>56458987
1. Diamond
2. Emerald
3. ...?

maybe it could end up there
I just gotta finish it first
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>>56459263
Primarina and Brionne might unironically be my least favorite Pokemon in the franchise. They're at least bottom 3 alongside Watchog, I just don't know which I hate more.
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>>56459259
I still can't even remember Fairy's type matchups
most unintuitive thing on the planet
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>>56459259
the only post-gen iii metas I enjoy are the bdsp era (it was better than gen4)
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>>56459281
It's not a lot of interactions really.

>>56459286
I played BDSP. It was dogshit. Zapdos was ruined. I remember making it to top 500 on ladder with Exploud because of the lack of good Ghost types since Gengar got stuck with Cursed Body.

DPP > B2W2 > ADV > everything else > GSC > S/S
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>>56459192
The game has an awful campaign, boring region, terrible side features, and the replay value is probably the lowest in the series. Would never ever come around to this slop.
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>>56459296
>It's not a lot of interactions really.
I know that I can just look it up, and that there's not much to it.
But the information just refuses to stay in my head.
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>>56459296
>Weak to (x2)
>None
Hey, wait a minute...
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>>56458987
As far as games go, no. They're middling games at best. But when it comes to characters, region, and pokedex they have some of my favorites, top 3 would be an accurate description.
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>>56459335
pretty much how I feel. I like the Alola pokedex a lot and it has some of my all time favourites, but the games mostly just bore me. I hope the region gets justice in a future game because there's some great concepts buried under some really confounding design choices.
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>>56458987
>Is it in your top 3?
Yes, and anyone who says otherwise on this thread is a faggot.
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>>56459216
If you want gameplay go USUM
If you want story go SM
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>>56459216
I think SM's the way to go if you enjoy JRPGs in general.
It's really unlike other mainline Pokemon games, in terms of character writing, environmental storytelling, and pacing- and that's off-putting if you're only going in to play Pokemon.
Also almost no postgame to speak of.

Otherwise, go for USUM for an overall better gameplay experience.
Move Tutors are a big quality of life and it's easy to rack up BP for one of, like, three pieces of post-game there is.
Also Ribombee can learn Sticky Web.
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>>56458987
Not even close.
It's the second best main series 3D game though, right behind base Sun Moon.
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Yes
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>>56460859
>you’re a fag if you don’t like Lillie’s shitty visual novel
lol. alola is irredeemably dogshit
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>>56459335
i really like USUM as games but i'm not a fan of this gen's pokemon designs, but that's typical for 3D era gens
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>>56462660
I'm the opposite, I still like the Pokemon designs for the most part, maybe not as much overall as old gens, but the new Pokemon I do like I REALLY like. but I can't get into any of the 3D games at all. it's a shame because there's some new Pokemon I really want to use but I can't even finish any of the Switch games
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>>56458987
as far as pokegirls go? yes, absolutely. Gameplay wise not even close



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