This thing would be so much better without the tongue wrapped around its neck. As is it's one of the worst water starters out there, only marginally beating Samurott. Just goes to show how one design element can ruin an otherwise great 'mon.
>>56462341>Contrarian think hating on greninja make him cool
>it would be so much better if they removed the creativity an made it a generic cartoon animal
>>56462355If they had the tongue sticking out but just trailing without literally being tied around his throat like a noose he'd be OK.
>>56462369Scarf. It's tied around its neck like a scarf. Is there something you need to talk about?
>>56462354>>56462355/thread
The tongue scarf is a defining feature.It keeps Greninja "weird".
>>56462341Whats ugly is the weird angular headshape. A long tongue used as an accessory is a fun fantasy quirk.
ACK-Greninja hanging himself with his tongue
thinly veiled genwar thread
>>56462391It looks ugly and stupid.
>>56462341agree, the bubble scarf from the first two evos was way better, design wise and thematically.
>>56462687
>>56462690That looks so much better holy shit.
>>56462690This looks just as bad
>>56462354Contrarian pokefags are so sad
>>56462341the only people in the world to think Greninja and Samurott are worse than Primarina and Inteleon are guaranteed to be clinically insane
>>56462690Objectively looks better
>>56462858Inteleon and Primarina are some of the only good water starters along with Swampert and Empoleon. The others all suck.>Blastoise isn't even the proper final evo for the Squirtle line and robbed us of the real one>Feraligatr is a fat blue wingless Charizard clone>Samurott is a disaster that doesn't make sense within its own line and doesn't even have the early-installment weirdness excuse of Blastoise>Greninja is ACKing itself with its own tongue>Quaquaval looks genuinely homosexualWater starters are cursed I swear.
>>56463343>Samurott mentioned Yup schizo-chan is going to spam the thread
>>56463343>Inceleon>goodThat fucker is bottom of the barrel, somehow saved from being the worst in any category because of what it has to compete with (Cinderace is the worst en 8 starter, while Quaquaval is the worst Water starter)
I hate pokemon that are popularI only like pokemon that nobody likesI would like the least popular starter, the least used starter and a starter that no one uses in competitive
>>56463383There is literally nothing wrong with Inteleon.>Cinderace>Worst anythingIt's one of the best designs in the series, as befits a starter from the best game in the series.
>>56463343>Inteleon and Primarina are some of the only good water startersdropped there. stop wasting my time.
>>56463343Yet, outside of /vp/, water starters seems to have loyal fans compared to the other two types. Water starters almost always dodge being the least popular of their gen and even in the few cases where they seem like they may be last (Swampert, Primarina) they're still really popular. The only gen where water seems like it may be a big loser is the latest one, gen 9, but I'm not sure if we have enough data to know how badly.
>>56463383>>56463420>T.
>>56463429>has to resort to a boogeyman because he's addicted to his Us vs. Them internet fights
>>56463391Samurott is not popular
>>56463457>Gets called out >Instantly gets defensive
>>56463461Reasons why Samurott would be my ideal starter?
>>56463394excellent bait, you almost had me
>>56463343>Faggot seal>GoodLol lmao
Yes primarina is a good pokemon
What if there was a 12.5% chance of it giving you a blowie
>>56463343>>Blastoise isn't even the proper final evo for the Squirtle line and robbed us of the real oneBlastiose is KANTOOOOOOOOOOOOO and therefore perfect >>Feraligatr is a fat blue wingless Charizard cloneGatr looks nothing like CHARIZARD, >>Samurott is a disaster that doesn't make sense within its own line and doesn't even have the early-installment weirdness excuse of Blastoiseit makes prefect sense if you aren't a brainlet >>Greninja is ACKing itself with its own tongueno its not >>Quaquaval looks genuinely homosexualRENT FREE
>>56462341The tongue is the main appeal for the girls
>>56463531Empoleon is basedPrimarina is a shit
>>56463576Now you're just projecting
No
>>56463343>All these replies >Not a single counter argument nor explanation how he's wrong Do /vp/eople really?
>>56463531>Emboar loses even in its furfag nicheoof
Honestly this is one of the few times where I think a shillmon has a reasonably likable design. A ninja frog with a tongue scarf is both reasonably silly and cool, definitely a lot more charming then Lucario or Cinderance. Just unfortuate it's designated shillmon gimmick looks like dog shit, why the fuck couldn't it just get a mega or whatever over ash greninja?
>>56462690This is better than the original.
>>56462690I'd actually add this to my team, not whatever the fuck the tongue noose frog is we got
>>56463982Lucario has more originality and charm put into than cinderace
>>56462341Vgh
>>56463429What does RillaGOD have to do with Greninja?
>>56463527>prefectHoly ESL
>>56463982I like Cinderace and Lucario more
The tongue breaks up the colors and adds a nice visual flair to the design that's lacking heavily when either the tongue is put away or someone does a design without it.I also appreciate the tongue mimicking clothing in a more organic way than something like Cinderace, who just comes out the box looking like he's wearing a uniform.