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It's the best day of the week!

Post all of your Serenas and Y-chans here!

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>>56575998
Built for big Slaking COCK
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Why did Serena's return make Serena haters seethe so hard?
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>>56575998
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Based general of autistic sperg psychos
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>>56576157
The leaks are talking about Serenahaters like you, though.
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>>56576045
Can't trust people who hate Serena, they send death threats to innocent people like Yajima and threaten arson.
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>>56576113
perfect for typhlosion mind rape and impregnation
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>>56576045
amourschizos*
Good thing they sank her and that awful ship
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So I’ll put my two cents here. This could be talking about either side.
I can absolutely see amourshippers sending death threats for not getting to see Ash impregnate Serena on screen, as there has been disappointment on how the episode had handled Serena’s return (even though just because westerners can’t into subtlety and metaphors) on the side of Serena fans. Plus there’s the language of “There are always a few individually attached individuals” can be seen as pretty damning.
There are doubts, however, as Yajima didn’t work on the episode, and in terms of Serena fans, Yajima is pretty much the messiah when it comes to that, so that makes less sense as to why he’d receive threats.
On the other hand, it could be referring to the hatebase that Serena gets as during JN, there was an absolutely absurd amount of anti-Serena shitposting going on both here and Twitter. Need I remind you of the sheer amount of edits and threads people here have made to spite Serena back then? Dawnfags and Gohfags were especially heinous with this. However, those people take the opposite approach with Serena’s episode (with out of context screencaps of Ash running past Serena) and claiming that Serena’s lack of interaction with Ash is the death kneel of the ship (which anyone with half a brain would find laughable).

I kind of think that with the language, the convo was referring to amourshippers, but I wouldn’t be surprised in the slightest if it was referring to the hatebase. Just my two cents. I will say that Serena is pretty unique in the fact that her hatebase is utterly gigantic, and there are people out there who always go out of their way to draw Serena in demeaning positions, and people who legit commission Serena NTR and purposefully tag amourshipping tags on them.
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>>56576277
Case in point. Hi, pearlfaggot.
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>>56576580
Made by anime staff btw
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Serena returns to HZ since same universe

Joins Liko's Harem.
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Had a couple Serena commissions done recently. Thought some people might like to check them and the artist out.

https://www.deviantart.com/daimosz/art/COM-Serena-In-Wonderland-Just-A-Little-Sip-1109444586
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>>56577003

If you have an account over there, be sure to give them a visit and some faves. They're always open for commission work for those interested.
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>>56576580
Reminder, no matter what unhinged shit either "side" did, it doesn't change the fact that they canonically won.
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So the leaker has Z-A and is just sitting on it without doing anything? Bruh
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>>56577602
I don't think one can truly say either side really won given Ash's ending was kinda shit. But it's whatever at this point.
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Y-chan <3
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>>56575998
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>>56576045
>There are always a few overly attached individuals
I don't think he's referring to haters based on this line alone. I definitely saw people calling staff names for not letting them properly reunite back then. That's sad.
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So much leak threads on the catalog, is there a good tl;dr?
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>>56580166
The anime-related tl;dr is "Fuck Yuyama."
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>>56576397
I honestly don't understand people flipping out about this. This isn't a new revelation. The fact that shitty people, lovers and haters of Serena, were posting death threats against multiple Pokémon accounts, including Yajima, before and after JN105 was acknowledged at the time. All this confirms is that they were aware of it. There were death threats during XY following the dance episode, and death threats after the Kalos League. I'm surprised that people are surprised Xitters are horrible people.
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>>56581595
I hate Twittertards so much
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i dont even go here but damn every thread is talking about it also is serenas ass fat
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>>56582477
>is serenas ass fat
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>>56582477
With great power comes great responsibility.
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>>56582477
i heard she cleared out Restaurant Le Wow by herself
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>>56578952
That line is a mistranslation. He's definitely talking about antis, Serena fans loved that episode.
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>>56576397
based on this >>56583230 I say it's almost guaranteed to be referring to the haters.
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>>56583230
So what would it actually say if properly translated?
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thanks for the answer anons that is a nice ass
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>>56578888
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>>56583790
That poster gave it: "Director Yajima got harassed on Twitter by foreigners back when Serena returned too. They were sending him death threats." The part about "overly attached individuals" seems to be entirely incorrect, and given that was the most damning line against the pro-Serena crowd, it appears much more like they were referring to the anti-Serena crowd doing the harassment and death threats.
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>>56584574
Yeah, the final line there is 粘着された. It means "(he) got harassed", but whoever translated this interpreted it literally as "(they) got attached" and then turned it into that bit about "overly attached individuals" when trying to make sense of it.

This was either machine translated or translated by someone with a very poor handle on Japanese.
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>>56585049
Why do people that can't translate try to translate important shit like this?
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>>56582628
Why does her ass need to be so big
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>>56586877
Satoshi is an ass man
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That horrible feeling that more official Serena content is just around the corner with the leaks and Z-A incoming but it feels like it'll never come out.
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>>56588146
Be patient.
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>>56586093
50% chance they used ChatGPT, 50% chance they used Google. 0% the original guy manually translated, since they clearly rushed it out.
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>>56584313
me before seeing this: AI art is always ugly and uncanny and soulless
me now: you know, everything has its place
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>>56588146
Mootmonthly claims the Z-A protags are from Paldea. Though everyone else in the server he's in, is calling bullshit.
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>>56589348
Mootmonthly is a fucking retard who's been posting mistranslated bullshit way too much for anyone with a brain to trust anything he says.
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>>56589587
He's always been a fuckhead. Guy got too high on his own clout.
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does she ever wear those stupid glasses
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>>56585049
You know, I really hate when people give half-assed English translations and then just hide away the Japanese so no one can check their work. Here it is, the full line, copied directly from the leaked document:
>直近、セレナ再登場の時も矢嶋監督にTwitterで海外から殺人予告が来た。粘着された。どう転ばせても粘着する人はいるというのは感じる。
Now, do what you will with this.
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>>56590360
It was posted in this thread too, anon >>56583230 It was never being hidden from anyone.

Also picrel from another thread that brought this line up.
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It's still very odd we never got a beach episode in XY to see Serena in her bathing suit clearly. EVERY other girl got a full body frame as well as multiple scenes in their bikini's. I guess they figured her cosplays (SatoRena, and FenneRena) would suffice?
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>>56590707
No, no, I don't mean to suggest I'm disagreeing with those I (You)'d. I'm just venting about the initial mistranslation that was originally passed around, and still is passed around, not the above correction. However, I find it odd people are leaving out the "どう転ばせても粘着する人はいるというのは感じる" sentence, although it just means, I think, "Nevertheless, I feel that there will always be people who harass others." I'm just upset that it took till someone actually checked the Japanese to realize the initial translation was faulty.
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>>56591621
I think it was left out because the quote here leaves it out >>56576045
As you say, it's not like that line changes the meaning of any of the earlier lines.
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>>56592170
Correct, but I feel it's worth including the last sentence because omitting it could give someone the wrong idea that the "overly attached individuals" line actually does exist but that the "Serenafags" aren't translating it, rather than the sentence actually being a "nothing" sentence, which is why the more recent translator left it out. I included it just for completion's sake. It doesn't hurt to cover all the bases when there's dumb controversy.
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>>56591601
To be fair if you're a white woman in France the LAST thing you want to do is take your clothes off in a public space
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>>56592353
Yeah, that's fair. Pretty sure the translation you posted is accurate too, btw.
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>>56588146
Every game that has customized chars I just make Serena anyway. In my mind it's either Serena herself or her daughter if I can't get it to look close enough.
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>>56592622
I still find that scene a bit surreal for Pokemon. In any other anime it be a bit more normal.

did serena like the feel of Ash resting his head on her tits
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>>56592756
>spoiler
She probably still imagines it as Ash "making a move" on her, and kept playing back the moment in her head for weeks afterward. Probably still so after she was in Hoenn, even after having taken his mouth virginity.
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>>56578888
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>>56586877
To breed with Ash who is an ass man.
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>>56595628
Would Serena be willing to let Ash do anal with her big ass, since he's such an ass man? Or is she too pure for buttstuff?
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>>56596068
No, because anal is for WHORES like Chloe and Dawn.
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>>56596068
purity is a starting point
anal is a matter of time
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I love French women so much
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>>56596889
Gradually corrupting Serena!
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>>56575998
she is 10
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>>56597123
she is a 10
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>>56597123
Only Anime!Serena. Game!Serena is canonically 17.
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>>56597210
still underage you sick fuck
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>>56597217
That’s ephebophilia, it’s legal in most of the world niggy.
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>>56597217
The legal age of consent in France is 15.
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>>56596889
Never. Anime!Serena is only for impregnation from Ash. Anal sex would be a waste of time and semen.
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I wonder if Rica bullied Serena's VA
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>>56598552
>Bullied her so hard she chose not to reprise her role in PokeMas
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>>56599697
hips
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Has anybody trained an AI to learn Serena's voice yet?
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>>56599697
Imagine living in this timeline jesus fucking christ, that boring ass skeleton look and that 5head
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>>56599906
But then again, she's showing off her tummy.
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>>56599931
By the slimmest margin. The trade off is no tits, no ZR, no comfy long blonde hair...
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>>56599697
Serena if Grace was the one dressing her.
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>>56599697
It's just a customized Serena
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>>56600434
You could say the final Serena was just a customization from proto Serena as well
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>>56600491
on one hand, burn the impostor
on the other hand, it might be neat to see Serena in that outfit
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>>56600274
Cursed Pajamarena....
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it's still technically Sunday in real-world Alola...
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>>56600491
Can anybody post 2D art of Pigtails Serena? 3DS graphics sucks.
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>no anime refsheets for Serena
Sad
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I think Serena is for doggy style
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>>56597857
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>>56599955
Based Grace
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>>56599955
KEK nice
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>>56611224
>heart pupils

Serena needs to calm the fuck down.
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>>56611329
No! She needs to become even MORE enthusiastic for Satoshi!
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>>56611386
She needs to spread her legs for me.
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>>56576397
Yeah, but what would serena do with an ash plushie?
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>>56612052
Cuddle it in bed.
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>>56608833
Built for buttsex
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>>56576045
Genuinely makes me feel bad seeing stuff like this. I always wondered why, given how popular she is in the anime, Serena's reappearance virtually got zero publicity and build-up. It's evident now that it was just TCP trying to avoid the wrath of temperamental fans.
Obviously it's a case of one bad apple spoiling the barrel, but there's just something more demeaning having actual staff recount the autism of a fanbase, as opposed to the usual ire from other retards in the online community.
Shit sucks, but live and let live I suppose.
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>>56613827
Yeah. Serena fans are insufferable cunts.
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>>56613827
You know that's a complete nonsense, if you want to avoid something you don't give it a whole fucking episode. They leaked those posters days before the episode for a reason, it was some kind of reverse campaign and it was successful.
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>>56614026
No one is talking about Misty/Dawn's returns, it's all about Serena here and there.
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>>56614026
another episode wasted oh kekharu and her stupid eevee showcase arc
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I wasn't mad that she came back, nor was I really upset that she and Ash didn't get to interact. But it will always find it funny how they designed the episode in such a way to specifically avoid having Ash/Serena interact, especially when you compare it every other past character Ash met. The shitposting that followed was unfortunate but unavoidable I guess.
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Quality > Quantity.
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>>56614185
Regardless of how you feel about the episode it doesn't really change what I said. There was a clear avoidance, compared to every other cameo (Clemont and Bonnie got two episodes, Alola crew to several, Cilan had an entire episode hanging with Ash and co., etc). And that ultimately was probably for the best considering how the bad apples of both sides tend to act.
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>>56614026
I enjoyed her return; it was a good episode especially considering is was a Koharu one. I don't agree with your reverse campaign hypothesis though. but it's all speculation anyway.
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>>56614026
I want to see JN Serena without that stupid hat and balding pigtails.
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>>56614345
Yeah but they are not Serena, they didn't kiss a 10 yo boy, it's not easy to handle what happened on this japanese kids' show.
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I'm surprised more Amourfags aren't latching onto the very next line in the transcript, where Sugimori pretty unambiguously says Satosere was designed as a "romance" (恋愛), even if he then says that unstable fans are why the subject should be typically avoided or danced around in Pokémon.
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>>56614706
I understand Sugimori has nothing to do with the anime, he just gossips with his coworkers about it.
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>>56614706
I mean, it should have been pretty fucking obvious why the episode was written the way it was. But both side were just spouting nonense like the "green lights", or it being "retconned". It was simply down to the fact that, Pokemon isn't a fucking romance anime and that any prolonged Ash/Serena interaction would probably have to address it in some fashion. So they wrote an episode around it and in a pretty amusing way with Wallace being flamboyant and extra as fuck.
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>>56614185
what fucking quality
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>>56614345
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>>56615246
westoids cannot into subtlety, nuance, metaphors, or anything that isn't spelled out for a 5 year old.
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>>56615796
that's just every anime audience
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>>56614926
They wrote the episode that way because it was about Koharu, not Ash. It was the same reason he and Goh were absent for most of Dawn's first Journey's episode, to give Koharu and the returning girl time to interact. The obvious difference is that they had no intention of bringing Serena back after that episode while they knew Dawn was getting more, so they had to have them interact somewhat before she left forever. It's obvious that the writers are done with amour so I'm not sure what else people were expecting.
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Gee, it's almost like Flopharu was a mistake.
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>>56616367
Hi pearlnigger
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>>56616262
They had an episode with Goh meeting and getting to know the Alola cast, while also giving Ash time to interact with them too. The point here is that Ash's interactions with past characters wasn't entirely sacrificed for newer characters getting to know other characters. Obviously they were done with it, hence why they wrote it like that. Any extended time with them together on the same screen would be essentially ignoring an elephant in the room, which is why they kept it short, to no commit to anything because that's not what the show was about. You CAN make an episode with past characters coming back and having interactions with Ash. See May in DP, there was a reference to their last interaction even with Dawn present.
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>>56616410
anyone who shits on JN is my friend
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>>56616716
You need to go back.
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>>56616610
Anon, the episode went more or less the way most fans expected it to. The way they had to play with the censors just to get the kiss on TV at all means it would be very difficult to do an episode where they actually address it. People had been speculating that a Serena return episode would have her and Satoshi accidentally miss each other the entire episode for years, that's part of why them getting the little interaction they did was so well received. It was more than most had hoped for.
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>>56616610
May x Ash
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>>56614706
...because we always knew it was unambiguously a romance? He wasn't saying anything new here.
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>>56616837
I think we're kinda saying the same thing here anon. I was mostly addressing the extremist on both sides.
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>>56616610
If there was an elephant in the room they wouldn't have had them interact at all, they just didn't care. Same reason Ash-Greninja wasn't referenced in his episode, because that storyline was done and they had no intentions of furthering it in any way. Thinking they were hiding it is just dumb.
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>>56616959
I really doubt it was FANS they were having an issue with.
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>>56617301
>The time is now!
What did Satoshi mean by this?
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>>56617323
SEXO
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>>56617514
Their first time doujin will always be wholesome

>>56616577
Is Game!rena the most fashionable female protagonist? I feel you rarely every see any other girls drawn in as many alternate outifts.
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>>56617794
>porn
>wholesome
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Official art
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>>56618310
Cute Serena's JN outfit
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>tfw came out unscathed from the leaks
thank god
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>>56619652
apparently they are actually going to leak Z-A, so hold onto your butts
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>>56599697
no respect for the hood, all clean and shit
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>>56619652
Pretty much. If anything, given the iron grip Yuyama had on the anime, and how strong his veto power was on 99% of the rest of the production, the fact that Yajima's Serena stuff, including the kiss, all got approved by Yuyama is actually quite impressive. I just hope there's more cute Gamerena content forthcoming.
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>>56619652
>no NSFW Serena fanfiction written by Game Freak
Cowards
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>>56618291
Yes. Procreation is good.
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>>56621059
But they're not married yet, and Serena wasn't having sex with him for procreation in that doujin, but to relieve him.
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>>56621177
Always thinking of others before herself… Serena is truly best girl.
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>>56616755
I still wish they just had Ash jump off the ferry and tell Goh and Chloe that he was going to stay in Lilycove for a little longer to catch up with Serena, and then fly back on Dragonite the next day. They wouldn't have had to show them even do anything and could've started up JN106 with Ash back in Vermilion City like nothing ever happened.
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>>56622369
Would have been neat but it's w/e. I think Serena and Tracey were the only ones he didn't spend a significant amount of time with in JN in terms of old companions. Serena seems to be pretty busy unlike a lot of the other main girls so it's understandable.
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>>56616838
Satoharu is my #2 behind Satosere. I still find them cute.
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>>56624495
SATOSHIIIIIIIII
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>>56624495
I know a bunch of old Advanceshippers and Pearlshippers who flipped to Amourshippers during and after XY. I'm guessing you were one of the Advanceshippers?
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>>56624687
That's correct, I always liked Ash and May's chemistry since the first AG episode but I fell hard for both amour and Serena as a character during XY, so Satosere took new priority but I still enjoy Satoharu art and fics when I can get them. I just imagine Satoharu as a world where XY and Serena don't exist when reading those stories.
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>>56624887
I guess to be fair, most didn't since it's so ancient

>tfw Subs for AG are impossible as fuck to come by
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>>56625078
I heard the same group who subbed Indigo and Orange decided to sub Johto, AG, and even DP in order to fill in the gap that exists prior to 90 or so episodes into DP. Whenever they're done, I might do I straight run from the start of Indigo all the way to the end of DP, subbed. But I haven't heard anything since they dropped Orange other then a general "we're working on it".
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>>56625511
Stop blushing, Serena! Your swimsuit looks great!
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>>56622369
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>>56627213
I miss her hair, bros...
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>>56627256
I miss HER.
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>>56629286
Hands off those serenas!
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>>56629286
now do her belly!
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>>56629286
Is this Gamerena wearing contacts or Animerena wearing a black collar?
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>>56627213
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>>56630343
Cute
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You came to the wrong thread, motherfucker.
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>>56629580
Game Serena
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>>56631583
Cute fatass
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>>56631576
>You heard about Sixty Satoshis? Well, get ready for Sixty Serenas.
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>>56631618
Be nice
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>>56631885
Kek
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>>56617301
I don't think she's ready, bros!
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>>56635818
How did they get away with this?
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>>56635818
It's too late to back out now!
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What instrument does Serena play?
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>>56637063
The clarinet because it's long, vertical, held with two hands and she puts her lips on the tip end. Good practice.
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Normally I dislike you Serenatards but I saw >>56590360 and that gives me hope because this is unironically one of the best posts I've seen on this board for a long time. Too many ecelebs recently just dumped out their "translations" of magazines (citing the april corocoro issue of this year as an example: https://arch.b4k.co/vp/thread/55740820/#55742571) where even someone who couldn't even speak Japanese himself was able to see it's bullshit.

Every translation of magazines, leaks and images should always be accompanied with the original text for the sake of transparency.
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>>56637063
Obviously accordion
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>>56637247
100%. Anyone who's ever spent time with languages knows never to take amateur or even professional translations uncritically and at face value. Original language should always be published alongside like it's the fucking Loeb books.
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>>56635818
Making the backrground siginficantly less pink in the actual episode was a strange small change.
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Will she have it pink?
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>>56637247
Koharufag passing by and supporting this notion, always hardpress for the original text no matter how that comes off because by putting the text alongside your TL you're allowing others to check shit themselves to immediately curbstomp misunderstandings. Dismiss any posters with TLs that are refusing to quote the lines or even providing images of the text that was translated.
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>>56637063
Serena plays the guitar.
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>Koharufag
kys
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What anime Serena need are --
> 1. Becoming the most attractive eye-candy.
> 2. Genuine closeness with Ash that doesn't feel superficial like XY and XY&Z series.
> 3. Weird quirks that makes her funny and hilarious.
Pokémon is a kids anime so humour is more important than the story.
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>>56638460
lusting over Ash is her funny quirk
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>>56637608
>Koharufag
What's the appeal?
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>>56639399
nta but her indifference at first is pretty funny, and I just think she’s cute
plus she and Serena are now frens
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>>56639205
Only if it was handled as comedy and not as serious romantic subplot. Unfortunately XY tried to write a romantic subplot between two children that wasn't allowed to age.

The anime could have handled Serena as strong, mature, modest and smart "Onee-san" character that every boy has a crush on (except Ash) and has a weird switch that flips whenever Ash in involved which is play as a running gag. For example: Nanaka from Grand Blue.
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Go away, Famon
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>>56639399
Koharufags exist just to torment Dawnfags and to talk about Koharu banging Ash all day.
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>>56631576
Who agrees that this should be the next /ss/ op image?
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serena thighs around my neck
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>>56644990
I support it
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>>56643670
disgusting
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>>56619652
Amen to that. Shame what happened to Akari...
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>>56647650
i thought it was just memeing
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>>56648794
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>>56648929
Very cute. Though that Ash is too tall.
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>>56599697
IS THIS FUCKING REAL
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>>56643670
Goose is a whore, but she does a good serena cosplay
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>>56650254
Manletbros…
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Imagine
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>>56655740
Is Serena really in to role-playing?
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>>56645006
NEED MORE OF THIS AIKINO
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1/3
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>>56658028
2/3
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3/3
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god I wish I were Calem and Ash. Serena's guts would completely rearranged...
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>>56662741
>Serena's guts would completely rearranged...
Where are you sticking it?
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>>56663077
Right in her biggest weak spot.
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>>56663077
>>56663123
Sticking it in Serena's ASS!
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>>56663123
sauce
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>>56663354
ASS
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>>56663376
Serena's ass?
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>>56663178
Fuck off back to the Dawn thread. Serena is never for sodomy.
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>>56663210
it's AI anon, so it's not like you are missing much.

https://rule34.paheal.net/post/view/6342933#search=serena

>>56660630
Which of the main game girls do you think Serena would get along with the best?
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>>56663828
>Like
Leaf, Elaine, all Mays, Dawn, Lyra, Chicken

>Indifferent
Kris, the shota thing from Paldea

>Dislike
Hilda, Rosa, ESPECIALLY Gloria
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>>56663960
So it's now confirmed Ash and Serena's first meeting was the year after the flashback in the first Journeys episode? Since it's stated that Ash was 6 in that episode, does that mean we now know Ash and Serena met when they were 7?
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>>56663960
Well that's gonna kick shit off again.

>>56664039
Seems logical.
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>>56663960
"Muh retcon" shills btfo once again
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>>56663960
Is this translated from something or from one of those data books found in bookstores? Because I could easily see someone say this was "dub added".

>>56663871
Why wouldn't Serena like Gloria or Rosa?
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>>56663960
Canon
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>>56665261
>French
>Americans and the British

At least the wholesome Japanese girls come from regions where her favorite Pokemon are popular and beloved. Galar just steals from them to try to fit in. But also she would like girly girls so anyone with an inch of boyishness or tomboyishness would be a slight turn off for her. So while she might hold a conversation with Kris, Hilda or Julianna she definitely wouldn't want to be in the same room for long
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>>56665261
Found it.
https://www.amazon.com/Pok%C3%A9mon-Timelines-Official-Journey-Animated/dp/0593844017
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>>56665656
So it's essentially their own headcanon then? I mean, it makes sense that it be after but it's not necessarily and official source.
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>>56666401
It's an officially licensed product.
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