>Professors thought Arceus and legendaries were sterile/genderless when really its because they only mate with humans>change their gender and bodies to be ideal for their mates>Human/pokemon demigods are the most powerful in the series>When he died the hero was immortalized by Arceus and became the three lake spiritsThis has singlehandedly revived my interest in the pokemon franchise.
Non canon smut written by a possible troon
>>56599098>plass didnt feature sex with godyet another reason to hate that tech demo
>>56599120>[Schizobabble]
>>56599120This
>>56599139>redditfag or twatterwaffle
>>56599120Based tranny obsesser
>>56599139>Random Japanese fokelore that inserts Pokemon written by a possible troon = CannonYeah no.
Giratinasisters....
>>56599098Why can’t Pokémon be as simple as capturing animals in the wild? I mean that’s what it’s intended to be right?
This is a /pol/ack raid isn't it?
>>56599200>literally the guy doing worldbuilding for final sinnoh
>>56599274>the guy doing worldbuildingI dont remember any of this being in the games?
>Had twins fight the giant>Giant is implied to be Giratina>Lucas and Dawn suspiciously lack a father just after a gen where the player finally had one >Lucas and Dawn are also handpicked by Arceus to be taken to the past for PLA to fight Giratina
>>56599320 >lots of black white and gold like arceus>add the red and its giratinas colors >lucas has blue elements like dialga>dawn has pink elements like palkia
>>56599320I thought the giants are the shards of the God egg>Reggis>Type plates?
>>56599098Shit. Now I feel bad for sticking the embodiments of Arceus' husband inside Ultra Balls.
>>56599320>Giant is implied to be Giratina Where
>>56599948One the other versions of the story, thge one where the man gives his life to shield his kids and the kids defeat the titan. Arceus returns to them and takes the man's soul and infuses it into Mesprit, Uxie and Azelf.
>>56599981How does that answer what I asked you absolute retard
pokemon fans are so gullible, i guess all you need to do to convince them of anything is create a google doc and write a bunch of random shit
>>56599686There are different versions of the myth that have the giant(s) (kyojin) be different. One version has them the fragments of Arceus' egg, while other versions like the one in OP be a later creation of Arceus. >>56599948this version has the unnamed giant being a part of a trio with dialga and palkia, associated with destruction, which sounds the most like giratina. it dies, becoming the weather trio. giratina doesn't seem to have fully been realized until quite late.
>>56599343Almost every player character in Pokemon doesn't have a father
>>56599098missing the bit before Ia and Ea change, their dad dies defending them from the titan.>巨人は双子の姿を見つけると、猛り狂いながら襲いかかってきた。>思わず父は飛び出した。身を呈し、巨人から子を庇うと父は力尽きた。
>>56599098This means that Dialga and Palkia have humans forms too, since they literally transform to fight the Titan
>>56599948>All color, sound, and calm disappeared from the surroundings.>People and Pokemon disappeared.>The Titan roared from the void.
>>56599120whats wrong. did the tranny obsession not work. guess you gotta go back to the drawing board.
>>56600514Cute and canon
Bump for Arceus titties
>>56599120This. Fake until proved real.
>>56600477It sounds like an anti-sex tranny is trying to blame it on the trannies to get everyone to stop talking about pokesex.
>>56599274>literally [fanfiction]Tranny shit and fake.
>>56602451The only reason you think it's not canon is because the game dialogue (and a few other things) are censored for the west.Humans used to marry Pokemon.
>>56602470>>56602451Let's take a look at the Canalave Library with literal translations shall we?>ひとと けっこんした ポケモンがいた: "There once were Pokémon that married people.">ポケモンと けっこんした ひとがいた: "There once were people who married Pokémon.">むかしは ひとも ポケモンも おなじだったから ふつうのことだった: "This was a normal thing because long ago people and Pokémon were the same."Not cannon my ass.
>>56599981>other versions of the storySo this is fucking fake.
>>56602686You understand that everything in the leak is just concepts and drafts right
>>56599308It's not rape; but marriage exist in the Japanese version of dps
Ia (Dialga) being Light and Ea (Palkia) being Time feels strange, the concepts don't really have duality. The legendary chart from 2005 already has them listed as gods of spacetime. While I don't know when they decided on the name Pearl, Diamond as a game name was decided before even Ruby and Sapphire because Masuda wanted it to represent the ultimate Pokémon game, and Ruby and Sapphire as names were stepping stones to that. We had both version names officially revealed in October 2004. Dialga is part Steel to represent time as a hard concept, and Palkia is part Water to represent space as a fluid concept. Lucas and Dawn having those names (well, Kouki and Hikari) may be a carryover from them wanting to use light.>>56599320In Gen I development material, Red's father is actually the Silph employee that gives you the Lapras, his unique overworld sprite is listed internally as OTOUSAN and was switched out for a generic one in the final game.
>>56599120t. giant
>>56599320Also Lucas and Dawn both have names that relate to light
>>56602796There's one story where they're born from Arceus' claws and tears, which would probably be the clearest explanation of the types
Arceus’ human form looks like Cynthia Palkia’s human form (so her real form) looks like Dawn
>>56602796Light and time existed due to the Big Bang
>>56599120/pol/ard fell for weak lies and is now schizo posting about trans to whole board. Leave.
>>56602977/pol/ loves Sinnoh and Arceus. That’s just a projecting twitter tranny
>>56599098I wish we'd get a part 2 where Arceus goes through his Zeus arc and impregnates human women for shits and giggles
>>56599320dawn also means something similar to light. guess which pokemon's myth name means light?i have nothing for lucas however
>>56603401Lucas is a Latin masculine given name (from the verb "lucere" - "to shine"), from which the English name Luke comes.Might also come from Lucius, which comes from the latin word for light
>>56603580wow, ty.
>Arceus created Palkia and Dialga, then took human form to craft earthly vessels for them to be born onto this world>via raw baby-making sex with the first human man she found
>>56603662It wasn't some random dude. It was a man who had loved and cared for her at her weakest.
>>56599120>>56603110>written by Yuu>reading it as female nameIt's a unisex name and Yuu is just another reading for the kanji Suguru uses. Not a troon just a fucking guy, dude
>>56599343Cool theory. Could easily imagine them being the human forms.
>>56599098>never know who’s the charger that knock up arceus and what does he look like Feel bad man
>>56599098Nice bunch of shitty not canon text
>>56599098 The wiki faggots didn't bother to translate really important footnotes like the one outright stating that the giants are NOT pokemon. ※1 ユングの言うところの 母胎からの分離の恐怖やショックの象徴。 なお巨人のみポケモンに非ず。 ※2 本当に左右が違う訳ではなく、絶対性の象徴、人とポケモンの粗を同一とする暗喩。 イア=男・ポケモン。エア=女・人。 ※3 木=生命の成長性の象徴。 ※4 一つの大地=パンゲア超大陸、分かたれた大地=現在の世界大陸を意味する。1 is attached to>飛び散った殻の欠片は、巨人※1に姿を変え、産まれて間もないアウスに次々と襲いかかった。The shards of the egg that became the giants are representative of Jungian fear of separation and the giants are not pokemon2 is attached to>アウスの体は左右で姿が異なった※2The note says that it is not meant to be taken literally but is metaphorical, Ia represents males and pokemon while Ea represents women and humans.3 about the tree of life is supposed to represent the growth of living beings4 refers to>こうして一つの天と地と海を持つ世界が産まれた。 ※4This is literal and refers to a pangaean continent, different from the current world's split-up continents.I'm going through the leak myself and the footnotes that people are ignoring have some really important stuff.-----------------------------------------------------------------・イア/エアが象徴するものイアー光ー安定ー太陽ー農耕ー倭人ー干害ー男ー人工ー怒りーダイアエアー時ー変化ー月ー狩猟ー蝦夷/アイヌー冷害ー女ー自然ー悲しみーパール・レイアイハイが象徴するものバランスー調和ー音ー鼎・アウスが象徴するもの究極ー生命ー万能-----------------------------------------------------------------Ia is inspired by the Yamato people and Ea is inspired by the Ainu. So yeah no shit all of this is heavily inspired by Ainu folklore.
>>56605182A bunch of this actually did show up in the games slightly rewritten, but the gods' names were replaced with question marks instead悲しんではいけない 怒ってはならないあらゆるものを友とせよ悲しんではいけない 怒ってはならないエアが悲しむ イアが怒る悲しんではいけない 怒ってはならない月が血に染まる 太陽が消える悲しんではいけない 怒ってはならないレイが見ている悲しんではいけない 怒ってはならないアイがそこにいる悲しんではいけない 怒ってはならないハイが聞いている悲しんではいけない 怒ってはならない心鎮めて神と祈れPic is speculation from ages ago so it didn't have the answers, but noticeably Aus (アウス in Japanese, three characters) corresponds to the three question marks while Ia and Ea (イア, エア, two characters each) correspond to the spots with two question marks.Aus was used as a placeholder name in Battle Revolution before being officially introduced as Arceus but going by the question marks remaining in the games, Aus might be its true name as a deity.And yeah a lot of this is in the Japanese versions of the games but got localized out of the English releases like the pokemon marriage line
>>56599098You think the original human who fought the super-giant was a guy who looked like Ash? Hence why Ash is randomly in the right spot to save the world like fifty times.
>>56605193And notably while the number of question marks corresponds to the names in Japanese they're all replaced with three question marks in English. Betray not your anger, lest ??? will come. Weep not with sorrow, or ??? will draw near. When joy and enjoyment come natural as the very air, that is happiness. Let such be blessed by the hand of Master ???. Those words were spoken often as customary.
>>56605221And the localizations are filled with random changes and additions which are nowhere to be found in the original text and outright contradict stuff in general "Offer only friendship to those around you. Angering ??? in turn confounds you. Sorrowing ??? will in woe drown you. A land, once riven, cannot become new. Let only peace and amity surround you."あらゆるものを友にせよ ??を怒らせてはいけない??を悲しませてはいけない 裂けた大地は戻らないあらゆるものを友とせよ
>>56605182>>56605193>>56605221>>56605244Really cool shit, thanks for sharing.
>>56605215If Lucas is supposed to resemble the human version of Dialga and Dialga is the hero's son I'd imagine they would have some resemblance.
>>56599098I need a canon design on her human form
>>56605215trAsh isn't canon to the games you fucking faggot
>>56605244Also it seems that the translations people keep sharing of the creation myth are of the first document (pmyth01.doc) when that's the second-oldest version, instead of the updated v5.2 version. (pmyth05.2.doc)The original version of the creation myth is in 増田さん神話資料.doc and is completely different and kind of bizarre (Aus eats cats).
>>56605318I'm sorry'Cooler Ash, aka Red'
Speaking of people posting translations of stuff that's already outdated INSIDE THE FUCKING FILES, the Typhlosion story is also an old version. The final version has Slaking instead.After the girl and her daughter return to the village, it's the girl's own brother who bullies them. In the final version of the story the pelt transforms the girl into a Slaking and she kills her brother and mother and vanishes with her daughter. This version also adds a last paragraph of "and that's why humans don't eat Slaking meat, because they're half human".しかし弟は面白がって、少女と子供にケッキングの皮をかぶせた。少女の体中の毛がみるみる伸び、大きく吠えた。突然、少女はケッキングになってしまった。少女にはもうどうしようもなかった。 ケッキングになった少女は弟を殺し、母親も殺した。ただ、ずっと優しかった父親だけは殺さなかった。少女の顔から涙が溢れ出た。ケッキングになった子供を連れて、少女はいなくなった。そういうことがあって、ケッキングは半分人間になった。人々がケッキングの肉を食べないのはそういう訳だった。ケッキングは半分人間なのだ。
Interesting how when you look up the writer of the myth stuff in the leaks (中津井優) you get a ton of stuff from Japanese fans from years ago complaining about how much they hate himhttps://x.com/akira_membo/status/1273819509262913536https://x.com/tetsujirogi/status/1096964828046848000https://w.atwiki.jp/pkswsougiwiki/pages/26.html#id_950a9934And no despite what retards on /v/ are saying Nakatsui is not a woman.
>>56605542>https://w.atwiki.jp/pkswsougiwiki/pages/26.html#id_950a9934 「ポケットモンスター」シリーズなどを手掛ける企業。元々は、現代表取締役の田尻智が1983年に立ち上げていたゲーム攻略誌を扱う同人サークル「ゲームフリーク」であったが、ゲーム「クインティ」を制作・販売の時期の1989年4月26日に同社を起業した。書籍「田尻智 ポケモンを作った男」の女性社員一名を巡る騒動 ゲームフリークが会社になって2年くらいの頃に女子社員を巡って社内トラブルがあった。 「女性を入れたほうがいいって思って、ひとり入れたら」(田尻)「その女の子がスタッフを抱き込んで(笑)」(杉森) その女子社員と肉体関係を持った人間とそうでない人間に社内が分かれ、前者は反社長派となる。 「この子を追い出すなら、俺も辞めるみたいな。で、僕も最初はそっち派で(笑)」(杉森) 結局女子社員は辞めさせてそれに次ぎ取り巻き一派も大量辞職。杉森はその一派と一時的に距離を置いていたため辞職に誘われることもなく残留。what a shitshow
>>56605461>the Typhlosion story is also an old version. The final version has Slaking instead.The typlosion version is dated after Slaking though, and no "more text=it has to be final" is not the case.
Anyone have a link or something to all the versions of the myth? I want to see the timeline of how things progressed and changed
>>56599120Based, reminder to trannies that YWNBAW and only you are thinking about degen sex 100% of the time.
>>56599120Yuu is not a woman's name you retard
>>56602796It's in the footnotes■イア/エアが象徴するもの イアー光ー安定ー太陽ー農耕ー倭人ー干害ー男ー人工ー怒りーダイア エアー時ー変化ー月(及び星)ー狩猟ー蝦夷/アイヌー冷害ー女ー自然ー悲しみーパール ■エアのタイプについて "時を止める"という状態をポケモンの特徴・能力におとすにあたって 今回は、エアのタイプを"水・ドラゴン"""氷・ドラゴン"に変更しました。
>>56600075It's literally in the leaks. The guy who ripped all the shit from GF doesn't know Japanese. Cope
>>56600160Their fathers are Pokemon.
>[Moans loudly and vanishes up a mountain]
Where i can find all these texts of creation lore? are they already translated or its in nip?
>>56606474Its in nip obviously. Its DP>DP仕様>pmyth with the have fun part of the leak.
>>56606493thank you
>>56599120basedPeople thinking this is canon are just retard and don't know how "canon" works.There are other version about Arceus story in the leak, stating that there were many concept behind it and they decided the simplest story to put in the game, and that, only that, is the canon one.
>>56606493I cant seem to find it under that name on the drive, is it renamed to something else?
I can’t believe that pokefucking is canon
>>56605142The biggest GigaChad of them all. His jaw was so sharp that it scattered light like a prism.
>>56599343>names referencing light
>>56605193Honestly this is very cool, but it's mostly fluff they "repruposed" or just took out of the wolrdbuilding drawer when necessary. Cool to see behind the veil but how faithful they are to the original brainstormed ideas is debatable.
>Origin Egg?Hatched>Arceus?Born>Giants?Ready to jump his assOh yeah, its Regigigas time. Even if getting whipped by Arceus made him weak as shit, its fucking based that all the Regis that made up the cosmic egg just decided to Jungian Fear of Birth and Existence attack Arceus.
>>56605542Seems its the person who wrote the SM mega evolution entries and the galarian fossils ones.
Celestica people = Arceus’ descendants
>>56599200>written by a possible troonSchizobabble
>>56605542>actually calls masuda out for his lies on the dexcutbased, this wiki is a goldmine
>>56599120fpbp
>will never know about the human form of arceus>when it’s a beautiful womanWhy did they do this to us?
>>56602796Actually Dialga is partly Steel-type because for centuries the clocks were completely mechanical and the ticking sound of time was the metallic sound of the clocks' gears.Palkia is partly Water-type mainly because pearls come from the sea.
>>56608300>>56602796>Palkia is partly Water-type mainly because pearls come from the sea.No ■エアのタイプについて "時を止める"という状態をポケモンの特徴・能力におとすにあたって 今回は、エアのタイプを"水・ドラゴン"""氷・ドラゴン"に変更しました。
I much prefer the christian shudo mythology to pagan arceusslop
>>56608358Arceus has never been christian you western tard. In every single form and fashion its always been Shinto.Arceus has always been shown to be a Kotoamatsukami and his creations are Kamiyonanayo which is why they were in pairs.Dream/NightmareTime/SpaceMale/Female
>>56608426back to schoollearn to readI did not say any of what you claim
>>56602796steel type was proto light type, just look at Doom Desire and mirror shot
>>56599098>"The power of defeated giants infuses this Plate."Oh fuck
>>56608609>Giant Trio (regis)>Giant King (Regigigas)>GigantimaxingNow it doesn't seem so random that Gen VIII games were all about giant pokemon. >these things are unrelatedThey, and the leaks all use the exact same characters for "Kyodai" meaning "Giants"
>>56599098Did the leaks say anything about the Foreign Building in Hearthome? What's the backstory behind it?
>>56599098Has there been any mention of Unown in the leaks yet? Because as far as the actual canon in the games goes, that's the only Pokemon other Palkia/Dialga/Giratina/Lake trio that has some sort of definitive connection to Arceus and the creation process.
I love goddesses falling in love with human men stories, it's a shame the man almost invariably meets a tragic endThe lake trio being from Arceus's husband is neat though>The reason they can calm down the two twins is because it's their father >His soul is embodied in humanity so Arceus loves all of humanity
>Cogita might be one of Arceus's avatars
>>56600514
>>56605659>>56606474https://tcrf.net/Development:Pok%C3%A9mon_Diamond_and_Pearl/Documents
>>56599098>Comes back and reveals herself to be ArceusVolo gonna have aneurysm
This is a translation of the 7.1 revision of the lore. This time they seem to split Sinnoh into a "natural" Eastern half and an "advanced" Western half (which is a theme that carried over into the final game). Plus here the Lake trio seem to be formed from the dead Ursaring.
>>56600514bless
>>56609592Just want to point out that the notes split the Ia and Ea factions as Yamato Japanese and indigenous Ainu as themes so yeah that fits.
>>56599098>Your text is not canon, its content is never transcribed in a game.>It's just one version of a text, among many that tell all and their opposite. >It's not even the most recent version. Possibly a fake leak. >Turn a specific situation into a general rule that applies to everyone, when there's never any question of that.The state of average members who fixate on two lines of text that haven't even been retained, to speak of canon. The desperation of these people.
>>56605869BRAIN POWERD MENTIONED
>>56599120Fpbp
>>56600095thinking about the plate descriptions in Legends, it would fit this version of the myth>"The other side of this world was given by the Original One to its raging third.">"That which fills the other side of the world can shape the rage and mold it.">"The third being raged, raining down bolts of anger."
>>56599098So in the Sinjoh Event, You see the creation of an egg, which in the world of the pokemon NOBODY has ever seen. You and Cynthia are the first ones to do so. So seeing how in the games, the canon is the most accurate, the time when pokemon and humans had separation occurred, and pokemon could only reproduce by having an egg granted to them by Arceus, because that is how all eggs are made?this would imply that somewhere along the line Arceus seperated humanity and pokemon.
>>56608426Look up who Shudo is.
all lore translated: https://files.catbox.moe/9y2mn2.zipincludes stuff missing from tcrf but too lazy to upload myself
2chan threadhttps://may.2chan.net/b/res/1263559260.htm
>>56599320>Giant is implied to be GiratinaWRONG
>>56612393Based
>>56599098This sounds like Arceus formed giratina second, who was the Shiva-like destroyer god. But this titan got reckless and needed to be contained. Which then led to the events of the distortion world and giratina's imprisonment.
>>56606573Nta but the DP.zip is in the havesomefun__randomfileboxent zip. It got autoremoved from the google drive because of the rape stuff I think, but an anon in the proto thread posted a gofile download link for it
>>56612226oh I didn't know the old names were also in revolutionhttps://tcrf.net/Pok%C3%A9mon_Battle_Revolution#Early_Pok.C3.A9mon_Names
>>56612226lol
>>56609087>>56609417Cynthia's bloodline is divineGives a whole new meaning to "pokegoddess"
bump
>>56609087Unlikely given that the old verses are implied to have been written by her, which are the perspective of the last of the celesticas.
>>56609417Maybe not Cogita but I do hope we get more human incarnations of pokemon. Good way to get more lore.
Poor Giratina
>fucking Cogita is fucking Arceus by proxy
>>56599098Cynthia is either a direct descendant of Arceus or Arceus herself
>>56618716>or Arceus herselfNow that's a desperate reach.
>>56618752Cynthiafags are always glazing their waifu
>>56618716Cynthia isn't Arceus. Cogita is Arceus or at least an avatar of Arceus.Volo can be considered an ancestor to Cynthia, but how Volo is related to Cogita is unknown as its not explored upon.
>>56619042Cogita isn't arceus or an avatar of arceus.Volo is related to cogita by being from the same race of people, the celesticas.
>>56619066
>>56619125Nice fanfic
>>56606573https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RkNyW41KIelUXRkgHT8y7KBijPUybfJf its in the backup gdrive here
>>56603580Lucas is a Greek name, Lucius is a Latin, both from the same PIE root
>>56619066Where are we getting this info from?
>>56619125Fuck Arceus via Cogita
>>56619198From your fanfics.Cogita is not Arceus. She's just another long-lived person like Volo.
Volo is Arceus.>pressures the player into meeting Arceus>is tsundere with the player(memories of fucking the last hero, perhaps?)>conveniently doesn't want to be in the same room as arceusCogita is just an old lady he brainwashed
>Cogita being Arceus makes Cynthia a demi-goddess
>>56619366hair isn't arceus enough
>>56606573The havesomefun_randomfileboxent zip is back, get it before it's gone again
>>56619408Because she isn't related to Arceus.
>>56619066what are they exactly? just Arceus worshippers?
HaveSomeFun__RandomFromBoxEnt\DP\DP\DP仕様\dp資料\発表資料\02FEHY~6.DOCThis file is a 21 page document from Yu Nakatsui that seems to go into quite a lot of detail about mythology from around the world. This part in particular seems to outline the approach that he was going for when he wrote the myths:>However, this does not mean that all myths around the world have anthropomorphic gods who reside in the heavens and are characterized by their immortality as their protagonists. Among peoples who have no written language and have passed down myths orally to the present day, it is more common to find myths that have as their protagonists not gods like these, but human ancestors, or animal companions who can speak human language and whose distinction from them is often very vague.He also talks about the different types of creation myths, and you can see how they influenced the different drafts of the creation myth.
>>56620037Basically. They worshipped Arceus, something happened that killed most of them and scattered the few who survived, then the foreign clans came to Sinnoh and appropriated Celestica's cultures and beliefs but each group interpreted things different which split them into the Diamond and Pearl clans.
Do you think we'll ever go to the super ancient times in a legends game? Do you think the market could handle human-pokemon relations 20 years after DP?
>>56619159Thanks, I'm pretty pleased with how it turned out all-in-all
>>56619366I would worship her
>>56621249Wonder if Arceus would be pleased or would come down in human form to mog her for pretending.
>>56621140No, because they still have to have pokéball tech to carry these fuckers around (you saw the Clans in L: A) and there's a hard limit of "recently from the events of L: A" which happens around 1920's (a hundred years behind the "modern" era give or take, considering the modern games constantly references of-the-moment things that date the games to real world chronological times), so the earliest I can see would still only be 1900, depending if they want to bullshit 25-ish years as "recent" per Laventon's estimations.If anything, this leak should tell you they have a scope of the games and lore they want to keep to and Dexit was probably as much in wanting to explore the past of the pokémon world, before the codified game progression of the modern. And given the two wildly differing settings (a barren wilderness to document the pokémon that inhabit it and a urban regeneration project member respectively) it shows they're not scareed to not slavishly copy themselves with this series, even if they know they need to reprint RG in essence every Gen.
>>56605221>Betray not your anger, lest ??? will come.>Weep not with sorrow, or ??? will draw near.>When joy and enjoyment come natural as the very air, that is happiness.>Let such be blessed by the hand of Master ???.>Those words were spoken often as customaryHoly shit, I totally forgot about this one Sinnoh myth. There were never any fan theories about what it meant. And it was even referenced again in PLA.So it's actually a holdover from the version of the myth where Dialga and Palkia were born from Arceus' claws/anger and tears/sorrow respectively.
>>56618716>Cynthia is either a direct descendant of Arceus or Arceus herselfthisor she becomes gods avatar/vessel when he visits Earth
>>56618659But those two are siblings...
>>56622318Poor Giratina
BRING ME ARCEBITCH
>Please stop killing the bears, meet up with a whale unarmed at the ocean and bring two witnesses so we can discuss peace>Bears killed the whale for no reason>Bears jump and kill the guy For what reason.
>>56622268But she isn't.
>>56622318So were Zeus and Hera
>the weather trio were born from a noseoy vey
The absolute god Anus was born
>>56619366>>56622388>>56599320>>56599098Someone already said it but.That means the human form of Arceus very likely looks just like Cynthia or Cogita if not REALLY close. I guess a male version would look just like Volo.I can't blame the guy who fucked Arceus if it looked like any of the two gals. Who the fuck would say no???>>56599343It's all interpretation. Or close.I think the main differece is that the clan of Shirona and Volo is God's chosen people...But Akari and Kōki are God's chosen champions.One is related to God.The other is closer to God.Which is why Volo and Shirona lose.Because they are going against "God's will".It's like a small kid defying his dad to a slap fight. Hit dad way too hard and straight into the ground the kid goes.And their names reference Light, but they are not the light, so in other words it's Arceus telling everyone to GTFO out of the way because its light is coming right behind/by the side of Akari and Kōki. Which are just the "advent" of light. Not the light itself, the light is Arceus/The avatar of Arceus coming with us anywhere we go, even if we don't have Arceus on our team, the key items related to him means it's always close, watching, learning about the world it created and then Dialga and Palkia finished completing, while also every once in a while BONKING Giratina with its champions or by its own hand for being retarded. But never killing it because Giratina is necessary as a counterbalancing force for the universe.
>>56609417We sure she ain't an aberration from Gyratina?
wanted to make a cleaner screenshot of the entire arceus love story
>>56600514Zeus is that you.... again?
>>56626902>>56599098Gonna bet against the current narrative and say that the Celestians or whatevs all those blondies aren't descendants of Arceus, but from Giratina. Which makes their quest for God ironic and the few times they get endorsed be penitence through action instead of lament.It explains too their fallen angel/SEX BOMB beauty. It's deceptive, but they don't know this.>"Then who's related to Arceus directly?"Either no one alive that isn't a Pokemon or all of the protagonists of the Pokemon games are, which would explain why they are all chosen ones from birth.It also gives all the Shirona fights a whole new level of irony.
>>56627934i don't think that's too much of a stretch, it's honestly more plausible than them being connected to arceus. volo is able to convince giratina to do things, namely rip a hole in spacetime, and it even fights on his behalf.and cynthia is explicitly in possession of it in the gacha, too.
why did she do it
>>56608609There we go, regi rebelled against God is Canon, proof is right there.
>It was a time when the world had yet a name to be called, in other words, it was a time when the world did not hold a distinct shape.>A single giant egg was there, and nothing more than the Absolute God Aus existed.>Aus desired the genesis of the world, but the effort needed was far too great and utmost difficult.>So, Aus produced three offshoots that divided its own power into 3.>The God of Light Ia radiates and shines on all things.>The God of Time Ea rouses and manages all things.>The black titan destroys all things, returning them to null.>The 3 siblings were born.
>>56628290>Aus commanded Ia and Ea to shape the world and ordered the giant to break the egg. >Afterward, Aus fell into a deep sleep.>When Ia let out a great neigh, light filled the world. Wherever Ia walked, light extended gently, illuminating the surroundings.>When Ea let out a great neigh, time was released. Wherever Ea walked, everything slowly began to move.>The giant, blessed by Ia and Ea, was filled with power. The giant swung his fist down onto the egg.>The egg was pierced, cracks formed, and the shell shattered. From inside, countless humans and Pokémon spilled out.>The giant began to kill those born from the egg, one after another. Even when Ia and Ea tried to stop him, the giant did not listen.
>>56618702>everytime I fapped to Cogita, I was fapping to Arceus all alongWhat am I supposed to do with this revelation?My cock's confused.
>>56628339>Ia and Ea were troubled over whether to kill the giant but could not bring themselves to kill their own brother. >Therefore, they decided to choose exceptional beings from among the humans and Pokémon born from the egg to kill the giant.>Ia and Ea selected an especially strong and wise human and said to them: "Please kill the giant. That being is our brother. We cannot kill him ourselves.">The human replied: "How can we defeat that terrifying giant with our power?">Ia and Ea said: "We will give you companions who will grant you strength.">Three Pokémon appeared before the human.>When Ia and Ea neighed together, the three Pokémon's forms began to change rapidly. The three Pokémon became the god of eyes, Rei; the god of heart, Ai; and the god of voice, Hai.>When Rei awoke, everything appeared there. Colors and shapes were born. When Ai wished, everything could be felt there. A gentle presence spread. When Hai shouted, everything trembled there. A blissful melody began to resonate.
>>56628393>Ia and Ea said:>"With Rei's power, the giant's movements will appear to stop. >With Ai's power, you will understand the giant's thoughts as if you could hold them in your hands. >With Hai's power, you will no longer tremble at the giant's shouts.">The human and the three Pokémon gods combined their strength and defeated the giant.
>>56628413>Then, Ia and Ea appeared before the giant's corpse. Feeling sorrow for the death of their brother, Ia and Ea shared half of their souls with the giant. As a result, the giant's soul and body split into three.>His body became the sky, the earth, and the sea. >His soul was reborn as the god of the sky, Rayquaza; the god of the land, Groudon; and the god of the sea, Kyogre.>Rayquaza enveloped the heavens, Groudon supported the mountains, and Kyogre embraced the seas.>Thus, the world was born.
>"Three beings whose power can hold both time and space fixed.">"Two make matter, and three make spirit, shaping the world.">"The third being raged, raining down bolts of anger.">"The other side of this world was given by the Original One to its raging third.">"That which fills the other side of the world can shape the rage and mold it.">"The rules of time and space change within the opposite world.">"The rift is born of disorder on the other side of this world."
>>56619011are Cynthiasimps all coal black >>56619042Cynthia is Seviper food
>>56628528>A Pokémon that is said to live in a world on the reverse side of ours. It appears in an ancient cemetery.>It was banished for its violence. It silently gazed upon the old world from the Distortion World.>There is one Hisuian verse that tells of a powerful light creating a deep shadow.
>>56605215Ash is heavily implied to be a descendant of Sir Aaron. And there is another Aura Guardian with a Pikachu he sort of resembles. I’d guess there is some potential ancestry here. Either Arceus had a third human child or a sibling of the man is Ash, Aaron, etc’s ancestor. If I were to take a guess Aura Guardians likely have some relation to him. >>56605318He’s in Sun and Moon and Pokemon Masters EX.
>>56628682Who is Aldith descended from?
>>56599098I'm curious about the giants and titan. Based on what I've been reading here they seem to be the Regis. Does that make the Titan Giratina?
>>56628566>It silently gazed upon the old world from the Distortion World.even as a kid i always felt a deep sadness from this entry
>>56628793Those words might be interchangeable with it being Regi in earlier versions and Giratina closer to DP release.
>>56628793https://tcrf.net/Development:Pok%C3%A9mon_Diamond_and_Pearl/DocumentsThere's several versions of the myth, and several versions of the giant. They all use the same Japanese word, kyojin, that can translate to giant or titan. To sum the different ones up>Reek, a primordial giant who gets dismembered by two gods, one human and one pokemon, in order to create the world and various gods>several giants that are born from arceus' egg fragments that attack him, and are defeated and used to create dialga and palkia. there's another version where it seems there's only one giant, and that giant is also used to create the lake and weather trio>a giant created by arceus to destroy walls and expand the universe. it turns on arceus and wants to destroy everything, and arceus can't defeat it. arceus has dialga and palkia with a human that defeat the giant. the giant's corpse becomes mt. coronet>a black giant created by arceus as dialga and palkia's brother. his purpose is to shatter the egg of life that contains all humans and pokemon. he starts killing them, and dialga and palkia create the lake trio to help a human slay him. mourning their brother, they share their souls with him, and his body becomes the world and his soul becomes the weather trioAs you can see, a couple versions make the giant sound like Giratina, and a couple versions more like the Regis. Note that there is a footnote that explicitly says the giants aren't pokemon. But who knows, that might have been changed too, none of this was set in stone
>>56628874>>a giant created by arceus to destroy walls and expand the universe. it turns on arceus and wants to destroy everything, and arceus can't defeat it. arceus has dialga and palkia with a human that defeat the giant. the giant's corpse becomes mt. coronetWe will never know who’s the chad that fuck arceus and give birth to time and space ;((
>>56628045>giratina is batman
>>56628874>the giant's corpse becomes mt. coronetThinking about it, you'd think it'd make more sense for Heatran to specifically be related to Mt. Coronet, as its tutelary deity
>>56628364See:>>56628045>>56627934Cogita, Cynthia and Volo all likely come from a people who call themselves the Celesticas and everything points out to them being related to Giratina. Not to Arceus. Which fits their color scheme too (Gold in head (haird), black attire), except for Volo who was so obsessed with Arceus he made himself an Arceus fit.
>>56627430Arceus fell in love with the human, and the human fell in love with her, so the two of them had gentle, loving, consensual sex for the purpose of procreation. She's nothing like that degenerate asshole Zeus who would fuck whatever he felt like just because he felt like it.
>>56628793They aren't the regis. The regis were created much later.
>>56606324>MFW Arceus is literally a deadbeat Mom and Dad who abandons their respective husband/wife once the kids are born.>Years later he lays the path for their offspring to travel the land and save the world and meet their fellow Mon siblings.>Technically speaking, Arceus has spent more time with you than your own mom because it never leaves your side (Spiritually). It also protects you from death and disease I guess.It all makes sense now.
>>56629315I love 2000s emo era anime drawings good job
>>56599120Shudo?
>>56629414Maybe the golems were created in the image of the giants?
>>56629569>Gen 3-9 protagsTheir destiny is to save the region/world/universe from one of the various legendary pokemon out there >Gen 2>Stop some has beens from squatting in this radio tower>Gen 1>Stop the Yakuza from stealing people's PokemonI think Red and Gold's Dad's were just dead beats regular old humans.
the azure flute was the flute of arceus' lover and he healed her with his song
I want Arceus to hop onto my azure flute
>>56630082Not really.By catching Mewtwo we avoid the BS that Ash had to deal with in the first Pokemon movie and the possibility of it getting out of hand real quick + stopping Giovanni from ever acquiring Mewtwo with a Master Ball.Gold catching Lugia leads him to the Celebi events and to the actual true defeat of Giovanni. He also catches Mewtwo which left released. Again denying an asset to an enemy he doesn't even know he's fighting.He also stops Silver from going into the dark path that his father went into. Just by being a good sport. Avoiding a potential Volo/Team Whatever situation later in the future.If Giovanni isn't beaten twice over in the past and in the future and also the Admins have to be silenced too to stop the return of his boss, if we fail to beat Team Rocket in the past and the future, both across the Sevii Islands and then the remnants of Rocket in the time-skipped Kanto at the same time, if we fail, Team Rainbow Rocket happens.Red and Gold's destiny was to stop a problem so complex that it had to be dealt with in both past and future, a multi-generational effort to avoid a multi-universe threat from emerging in their own universe not long after.The only time it wasn't dealt with in another universe or several even, the Mega-Evo/Gimmick universe got struck in Gen 7, and it's clear said universe or destiny was fighting back because if we weren't there by pure chance to stop Team Rainbow Rocket, Red and Blue had already arrived to Alola for the Battle Tree gig so they would have jumped into action late but they would have clapped the invaders in the end.They didn't get the chance to because we did so first by noticing and acting immediately.Honestly pretty cool, they had to work together across time without knowing they were actually doing so. And in the end, when they finally mean, they battle. Not knowing they are bidding farewell to a collaboration across time and space.This was Gen IV, blame Arceus for fixing an issue in a weird way.
>>56599098ok so judging by that text obviously the Titan that died and became a mountain wasn't either Regigigas OR Giratina because its body became Mt. Coronet in Sinnoh. I get people assuming it's Giratina but where are they getting Regigigas from?
>>56630534Big Golem.That's it.
>>56628910reminder dialga and palkia fucked too making humanity and pokemon.
>>56605328well what's different in pmyth05.2.doc?
>>56630549Giants infusing plates, Giants were born from eggshards, gigas has the normal plate.
>>56599098>>When he died the hero was immortalized by Arceus and became the three lake spiritsSo the lake spirits are Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo?
>>56630531Mewtwo is not even that big of a threat. At worse he can mind control some people and cause a localized storm.Gen 3 and on wards features legendary pokemon that range in power from world destroying to universe resetting. There are even Pokemon that are extra dimensional beings from outside of this universe.Mewtwo ain't shit now in days. Hell, I'm pretty sure Deoxys can take Mewtwo.
>>56630722mewtwo is the strongest battler in game lore
>>56630722this
>>56630722>Deoxys can take Mewtwo.it does in the edgy pokespe manga
>>56599120Insane cope
>>56630937I doubt lore wise Mewtwo is gonna compete with many other legendary and mythical Pokemon. Even by gen 3 he is way out classed. All three of the main legendaries are capable of wiping most life off the face of the planet in terms of lore. In gen 4 they are basically gods, again I really don't think he is gonna do much.
>>56631243Nah mewtwo would win. This is a serious case of "never meet your heroes" because in the games those "basically gods" get beat up by a regional starter, in the lore they get beat up by a lone swordsmen, and in the anime they get beat up by a bunch of floating cubes.Mewtwo doesn't have any mythos backing him up but he's literally the apex of human engineering, and if there's anything the mythos indirectly advocate for it's the ability for humans to fuck shit up when they put their mind to it. A mewtwo who's gone unchecked for a couple months could shred most legendaries apart.
>>56626987>Cyrus is in the dark world with Giratina>she reveals her true form>Cogita>they had many children together and Giratina finally found peaceAs was God's plan all along.
>mewtwo was made with mew and a human, Blain's DNAHoly shit, blaine's a pedo too!
>>56631435mewtwo was created in a vat through CRISPR
>>56631435Kinda weird that he was so obsessed with creating a clone of a little girl. And wasn't Blaine gear towards fire types, just like typhlosions?Hmm...
>>56631473The passion for cunny burns brightly
>>56631470blaine added his dna in Special
>>56605328The creation myths don't really iterate on one another as much as just change details. I don't know if there was a progression from 01->5.2 or if they're meant to be parallel. Because 02 or 03 refers to a being that seems very much like Giratina and the later ones don't.
>>56599098Roughly the same. The leaks have brought me back to Pokémon after the embarrassment that was scat and vomits dlc. Carmine and Kiki should be hanged for high jacking the series.
>>56607583The mega evolution entries are some of the best in the series.
>>56632233Nothing past gen 5 is canon anyway.
>>56608705>>56628184Regis aren't mentioned in any of the creation myths. Neither they, nor the Kanto Birds nor Johto beasts are brought up. Gyarados, Dragonite, and Tyranitar are though, so I guess they're more cosmologically important than Ho-oh or Regigigas, lol.
>>56611587Translated properly or just run through DeepL/ChatGPT?
>>56605328>増田さん神話資料The story from that one seems most explicitly Japanese inspired. Later ones seem to take more from Indo-European or Mesopotamian myths, but that one has a very Japanese style to it.
>>56632631>Indo-European or Mesopotamianthey're literally just fucking ainu myths you moron
>>56632667You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about you stupid shithead. Which Ainu Myth do you think was the basis for the 'Creation Myth' set? Which ones involve the creation and destruction of the World Tree? Are you even following the conversation?
>>56599098What would he think?
>>56633644this all happened before pokeballs so I doubt he cares that much
>>56630584Pawesome
>>56633644He's a confirmed pokefucker I have no sounds of that.
>>56602911>Arceus fucking a human>Big BangIt was right in front of us all along.
>>56627030>beyond the nothingness the giant howledthats girratina's entrances down to a tee. it enters from nothing.
Too much human wankage in these stories. Peak neutralfaggotry.
>>56609142Need full pic of the sourceAnd more anthro Arceus
lore
>>56636419Lol whatever you say Regigigas
>>56632318They're in the creation diagram
>>56608705>They, and the leaks all use the exact same characters for "Kyodai" meaning "Giants"The leaks use Kyojin 巨人 (a noun meaning titan/giant) not Kyodai 巨大 (an adjective meaning giant) when talking about the thing(s) that fight Arceus. They do use kyodai when describing things as giant like the life tree or the big mountain.
>>56639952To add to your post, Kyojin is also used when referring to the lesser regis. So if these Regi = Giants fags are willing to stick to their guns, then Regice is a giant and Reigigas is a nothingburger.
>>56599120even if this is fake this may be one of the most entertaining leak seasons so far. way better than alola starter leaks dare I even say better than playing scarlet violet a month early leaks.
>>56633644He'd be fine until he learns that Arceus enjoyed getting dominated by her strong human husband.
>>56632318Dude they are literally right there on the corners of the triangles learn how to read
>>56639829this version of the creation diagram seems to be an earlier draft that was made before Giratina was conceptualized as the darkness to Arceus’ light because that creation diagram/sigil is used in the games but has a third circle in the center next Aus, Ia, and Ea
>>56629569>>56630082>people joked about why a teenager could go around with god in a ball>turns out its because they are children of said god
Everyone's talking as if it's clear/canon that Cynthia is related to Arceus, Cogita or Volo. Or that she actually is Arceus/Cogita. I feel like I'm missing a step because I've never heard any of this before, I thought she was just a hot chickIs there actually any proof of this anywhere? Evidence that they're not just a thematic similarity?
>>56599098>Arceus had sex with a human to birth to Palka and Dialga>Those children then have birth to Pokemon and Humans respectively So... humans came from the children of Arceus... which came from a human?Can somebody square that circle for me.
>>56644514Headcanon arrived at by various different anons including me. The man who nursed Arceus back to health is the Ancient Hero spoken of in Hisuian legends, who's the same person as Lucas from DP and then L: A, with Arceus taking Cogita's form again and again to wait for Her husband's return, per my headcanon.
>>56644948the man who nursed Arceus back to health is the same man who was the ancient hero***
>>56644948I like the idea of it, but I'd rather just have Lucas be a descendant. We've got immortal humans like Oz and Cogita, why not just have Arceus make her husband immortal?
>>56644667There's been rewrites of the creation story drafts. So you had arceus mating with a human to make palkia in one version while you have palkia giving birth to humans in another.Anons pick whatever version sounds best
>>56644514It's not true. The Old Verses were written by Cogita, and the verses imply rather heavily that she is not Arceus and that she does not personally have any attachment to the hero. But since it's only a heavy-handed implication rather than a directly stated fact, people are headcanoning that Cynthia is a god with a 20 foot long futa lama cock
Hey, I liked Arceus already (in the "normal" sense) WAY before the gigaleak. Sure, I had always had my own fanfic headcanon that Arceus had sired a Christ-like figure with a human (in the Immaculate Conception sense; Arceus being the divine father and the human mother raising the child, yadda yadda; y'all can complain about THAT all you want.)So to say that the myth about Arceus mothering Dialga and Palkia through a human father doesn't surprise me.
>>56645041Because the origin stories told how the man died but Arceus loved him still. A mortal reincarnating, to unite with his Immortal wife millennia after millennia, re-affirming their love through the ages to each other is more appealing to me than him just being Immortal himself. And as Arceus made the world, She made Her creations mortal. Him dying is as much a celebration of the cycle of Her creation as it is a sorrowful event.
>>56645066both half human incest sounds very greek
>the Titans body turned into Mt CoronetHuh
>>56645458It's pretty self-contradicting at several points still. I don't think we can translate the proto-lore into what currently exists.
>>56644514>Is there actually any proof of this anywhere?No, but when did that ever matter to this fanbase.
>>56644514>Cynthia is related to Cogita or Volouh, just look at them ? also Cynthia got blessed by Arceus in Masters
>>56645776She might not be a descendant of Cogita or Volo, but rather one of their cousins/etc. For all we know, that's just what the people of Celestica looked like.>Mastersnon-canon.
>>56609417>Cogita is Aus in human form or at least the avatar of AusWould explain her seeming immortality, her signature pokemon being that of spring, creation, and love, her color scheme being arceus minus the gold ring, how volo (her foil) has an art scheme much closer to Regigigas whilst imitating the image of Aus, much like a mockery of how Arceus took part of Gigas for its ring, her knowledge that (You) are out of time and space, her knowledge and ownership of the plates, her knowledge of the legendaries, and how she knows that the genies are “out of time” in comparison to the rest of the legends. This also implies that, if the games are to mimic the folklore, that the “Legendary Hero” mentioned in PL:A is the human who died and became the lake trio, which adds weight to the various caves morbidly being possible representation of tombs for the hero. It would also imply that, at least in the true timeline, Lucas was who was ripped from time and space, not Dawn, and that Akari is the true ancestor, not Rei, as the legendary hero was most certainly male.
>>56646163All celestica people had long lifespans. Volo is also long-lived and will continue to live for a very long time as well.Enamorus is symbolic for Cogita watching over the new people of Sinnoh prosper after the destruction of Celestica. Possibly even symbolic for her love/hatred for Volo and how she helps him because he is one of the few surviving members of her people but also undermines him at the same time because of his heretical views on her god.Volo's phenotype is closer to Arceus than Cogita's.All celestica people worshipped arceus and knew a lot about the pantheon. They're the ones who built the temples and etched the heiroglyphs. And they also had knowledge of the events that would come in the future.
While easy to conflate, the Giant(s) are NOT the Black Titan. The Giants are the shards of Aus’ egg, hence why there was more than one, whilst the black titan is assuredly Giratina. Ea is Dialga, Ia is Palkia, and the unnamed black titan is Giratina, seemingly scrubbed from history and why, in DP, you find it in a labyrinthian maze shrouded from the world. Regigigas is the shell of Aus, hence its discontentment with creation after Aus cracked its egg with Giratina. This is further supported by the type chart, as Giratina can easily harm Regigigas being dragon (myth), but Regigigas can’t as easily harm Giratina with its normal (godly) typing due to the black titan’s ghost (void/anathema) typing - this also explains why Aus/Arceus had trouble with the Black Titan Giratina and required Ea and Ia - losing their normal (godly) typing in exchange for their other typing - which FURTHER reinforces the demigod status of Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina in comparison to Regigigas and Arceus/Aus. This also explains why Regigigas was able to stand up to Ea and Ia when confronted singularly, but why it lost when on a United front - not dissimilar to Greek mythology. Having been stripped of everything but still a giant nonetheless, Regigigas created facsimiles - Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Regidrago, Regieleki - of the original egg shards in the vain hope to usurp Aus and return to nothingness with its brethren. The reason why Giratina’s dex entries suggest its violent nature is because it was literally created to be the one that destroys. It’s a literal Satan in the world of Pokemon - not necessarily good or evil, but adversarial. Generation 1’s legends are that of genetic theming - the origin of biological life. Generation 2’s legends are that of folklore - how we perceive life. Generation 3’s legends are that of the physical world - life in the objective. Generation 4’s legends are that of the mythical world - the religious meaning behind life - the subjective.
>>56646307Counterpoints for shits and giggles because this is the most interesting Pokemon has been since imagination-theory got disproved by GF. While the people of Celestica are said to be long-lived, we meet only two who also happen to be very closely related to the story of Aus and possible avatars of the characters within, my theory being that Cogita is the female avatar of Aus, whilst Volo is either the “cast off” shedding of the Black Titan or related to those of The Giants, leaning towards the latter due to both his height and his role in the context of the story of wanting to “defeat” Aus/Arceus - in addition, he is said to of been “using” Giratina rather than them being a true union, hence why Giratina fled after being defeated by (You) whilst Volo remains defiant. If Enamorus was to be symbolic of the new people of Sinnoh, then it (in theory) should tie the genies to Sinnoh, not Unova. In addition, the genies are said to be out of time in PL:A and not native to Hisui/Sinnoh/Sinjoh. As far as heretical views on her god, I half agree - I believe his views are heretical but Arceus is also Volo’s god, or at least an entity of whom he recognizes as divine. A further stretch is that Volo’s “Celestica” outfit (for lack of a better term) is that of idolatry, NOT worship. In regards to who of the two is Cynthia’s ancestor, I believe it to be Volo, but one of the major themes of PL:A is that character ancestor’s are NOT 1:1 of the original characters in terms of morality or themes, hence Cyllene being “good” and Volo being “bad” being a neat flip on the plot of DP. Cogita, however, does not seem to be the ancestor of any known characters, has knowledge of the universe that no one outside of Aus (including Volo) should know, is in companionship with a Pokemon embodying spring (life, birth), treats the plates with placidity as opposed to Volo who treats them with extreme care and deference.
pmyth05.2"Aus" is the only origin that actually lines up with games.The only thing missing the lore of pmyth05.2"Aus" is Giratina. Everything else lines up perfectly with what we see in game, learned in Arceus Legends, and what the Flame/Earth Plate convey about the hidden lore of Giants and the Cosmic egg, as well as explain why Gyrados is in the Hall of Origin sigil.
>>56645458Giratina could be the giant as the pokedex stated it was banished for violence. It also appears in an "ancient cemetary" on top of being a ghost type meaning that it's corpse was divided to form Palkia, Dialga and Mt. Coronet while its soul was banished to the reverse world where it manifested as a ghost pokemon.Giratina could be the egg shard, or it could be born from the shadow of Arceus rather than be creates directly like in Sinjoh ruins.
>>56647088Sinjoh ruins suggest that Giratina is a literal creation of Aus/Arceus like Ia/Ea/Dialga/Palkia
>>56647459yeah but Giratina is the only thing that doesn't show up in pmyth05.2"Aus", but everything else almost perfectly lines up with the game. Except that Dialga and Palkia split up the continents from Pangea rather than Regigigas.
Pokemon “lore” is dogshit and inconsistent
Where's Mew in all of this?Weren't they're the progenitor of all Pokémon?
>>56648291It was only theorized according to the pokedex due to men's ability to learn every move and transform, but it isn't conclusive as evidence.
I still go with the body headcanon:Long before the heavens and earth, there’s an egg within an empty void.From that Egg, Shin-O was born.She was alone and lost, within an a sea of nothingness.It was from her loneliness that she severe her hands and create a child: Aus.She was satisfied at first, as she had company. but she realized that they’re still lost within the void.It was there she had an idea.She had Aus take her heart and Lungs, and use them to fill the void with matter.Aus did so, and Ia and Ea was born.Ea’s breath gave space, Ia’s beat flow time.Together, the Earth and Heavens are formed.However, the void threatens to destroy what they just created.Worried about this, Shin-Oh commanded Aus to take her bones and use it as supportAus did so, and Na was born.Na was sent to the other side, and use it body to grant support to the heaven and earth.Thus, the material world was complete.Despite the completion of the Heaven and Earth, it’s still empty and lonely.She commanded Aus to take her flesh and populated it with life.Aus did so, and Mu was born.Mu began to divide and spread its countless children across the heavens and earthBut the children are empty, blind, and powerless.She then gave Aus the final task to take her mind, and spread them across their children.Aus did so, and Ry, Ay, and Hy, were born.Ay filled the children with emotionsRy filled the children with wisdomHy filled the children with powerThus the Heavens and Earth are filled will life.With the task done, Aus ascends beyond heaven and earth, knowing that Shin-O is no longer with themShe sacrificed her physical form to create the world as it is today.However, her spirits lived on, through Aus, and all of her children.As if the world is the complete form of Shin-O, herself.
>>56648291An outer being like the other mythicals in the chart.
So if Gigas had nothing to do with the whole titan part of the lore, where does he come from? Was he just created later for some other reason? Seems odd he'd be left out of a creation myth that explains the origins of many other legendaries
>>56651001If he's not a titan he was likely just built in the image of the blank plate titan, him being a golem and all.
>>56651001His role isn't that fancy. He just moves continents around, basically a janitor in the grand scheme of things.
>>56651001Popular theory right now is that he's a giant/titan, but according to the creation glyph, it's another "creation god" alongside Lugia and Ho-oh, being a lesser god that was able to create some stuff on its own. Not directly involved with the forming of the world, but did some stuff afterwards.
>>56651028Yeah, but that seems like a really weird thing to be created for. Why did the continent need to be moved anyways? Did Arceus just not like where the land was? And even then, Groudon existed before Gigas in the myth as a guardian of the land. Couldn't he just do it?>>56651012That makes even less sense to me though. The engravings state that the flame plate was infused with the power of defeated 'Giants', plural. Did giants just exist back then alongside the Titan without being mentioned, or was Gigas just created in the Titan's image for whatever reason?
>>56627934>>56628960>Cogita's/Cynthia's side bangs>Alt Tina's gold side hornsi think im going schizo
>>56651173It's probably in the best interest of everything that a third party handles moving landmasses considering Groudon and Kyogre's naturally beef with each other. Plus Regigigas would be okay with simply moving land, whereas Groudon would just ask "Why not expand the land in that direction? Problem solv-*gets blasted by kyogre and starts another genocide war*"
