the lugia and legendary birds connection is anime onARGH
>>56607824Until true confirmation, Rhyperior is part of this.
>>56607824salamencesisters…GF dosent consider our bro as a true pseudo…
>>56607824The legendary birds in XY finally roost in the "Sea Spirit's Den", which presumably refers to Lugia. So that's been confirmed for a while. However a lot of the other stuff on that chart is still unconfirmed, even if a pantheon is still confirmed to exist with an updated version of this sigil being visible in HGSS Sinjoh Ruins and PLA Hall of Origin.
>>56607824being a Jirachi fan really sucks. This must be the only real confirmation of his existence in the main game. And it's not even important.The only mythical without lore in the game, just some movie headcanons. Fuck this shit
>>56607824Smilay = ShayminBirthlee = ManaphyDahabu = DarkraiSaan = Cresselia Gordon = Garchomp You cannot prove this wrong or come up with something that makes more sense
>>56607824That came out after the movie and the actual games already had nods to these.
>>56607824The random ass Gyarados is so funny though. I get that they want something to represent the sea but it's so out of place among the Legendaries and Pseuds. Salamence isn't even here
>>56608148They actually struggled to find something for that spot, there is text that describes the exact same lineups but with Snorlax instead of Gyarados
>>56608080maybe gordon is heatran since its the only legendary still not accounted for on the list
>>56608148They wanted 3 Pokemon from each region (Kanto/Johto, Hoenn, Sinnoh). So Salamence couldn't be fitted in and they had to try and pick a third psuedo/legendary from Kanto/Johto so they were stuck between Gyarados and Snorlax (who both had unique interactions in RBY/GSC).
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>>56608080Only the outer ring contains mythical Pokemon. So Heatran would make more sense than Darkrai in the inner circle. The fact that Darkrai is an event-exclusive mythical rather than being part of the base-game alongside Cresselia (like Latios/Latias were) suggests that it came along much later in development.
>>56609719they premiered shinies through Gyarados
>>56608038I mean hes a comet who only comes to earth every thousand years. every other mythical and legendary live there all the time. jirachi comes for a week every millenium
>>56608389All the other regions have a pseudo represented.>>56610194Darkrai was originally planned to be a roamer. Roaming behavior is implemented for it in the games, but it’s unused. It being a mythical is likely a late decision
>>56607824So my headcanon was right after all. Cool
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>>56611643>4 circles in the center instead of 3Is the extra one Giratina?
>>56611826It's really the only thing it could be.
>>56607824So who is gonna Hesiod this shit up and make a coherent story out of what we have?
>>56612031One day god was born. Its egg shell was alive and tried to kill god. God won and poured its blood into the corpses of its enemies to make pokemon. Those were told to go be fruitful and make humans.Or, alternatively, one day god decided to whore herself out and make children. She fucked off and giants attacked the orphaned kids. Those kids used their powers to create the lake spirits
>>56612031The problem for me is that the versions that have Giratina in them can't be reconciled with the stories that have the eggshell giants in them. So what do we do with Giratina?
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>>56607824>Leaks now confirm Vaporeon, Jolteon, and Flareon died in the tower and Ho-Oh reincarnated them with his Phoenix powers as Entei, Suicune, and Raikou.>Leaks now confirm Arcanine, Lapras were considered for pseudo legendary spots along side Dragonite and the reason they are 2 of six pokemon able to learn Dragon Rage. Dragonite (Sky), Lapras (Sea), Arcanine (Land), others considered Aerodactyl, Gyarados, and Charizard.>Blues Raticate confirmed to have died on the SS Anne.>Ditto confirmed to be a failed mew experiment. As seen from Pokemon Mansion test tube art with mew and mew DNA sample.>Cubone is baby Kangaskhan >Diglet has feet & hands>Tangela has untangled art.
>>56615357I don't believe half of what you just said.
>>56607841Nope Rhyferior died before Arceus even hatched out of the egg
>>56611643>>56615017
>>56615357Gonna need proof of that
>>56607824I wonder why they included the おなか側/ventral view for reference in the Suicune file? Hmm...
>>56619294what if there was a cool shot of suicune leaping in front of the sun at that angle or something?
>>56619346Also quite odd how the color reference has the black Lugia variant at the top.
>>56608038I feel like Jirachi kind of gets cucked in his own games. Adding some stuff for Deoxys in Episode Delta made for a better throughline since it's usually implied to be malicious (so it makes sense to fight him) and an enemy to Rayquaza in other Pokemon media.
>>56608038>This must be the only real confirmation of his existence in the main game.Wasn't there something with Jirachi and Team Aqua in ORAS?
>>56608389I don't think Heatran was even intended to be a legendary originally.
>>56607824>>56608038I'm happy bros, so many of my favourite mons made it in:>Deoxys>Metagross>Jirachi>Celebi>Ho-oh>DragonitePlus other major legendaries that are sweet. But the first four that I listed (aside from maybe celebi) aren't given tons of lore/media attention. So I'm v happy they're included in the pantheon of gods and legends.
>>56612677>>56612191I think you can still combine them. 1) You make giratina one of the giants, but this one was given special favor by arceus as a destroyer god, but then took advantage of its powers and had to be sealed away2) Gira was created afterwords from further remnantsI'm sure we can reconcile things. But at the same time, I kinda like how they are all similar but slightly different, just like real ancient myths in our world.
>>56612677Treat it like an Octillery, if you catch what I'm drifting
