>Manectric had an evo that was cut>Later got a Mega so, the cut evo has no chance of ever seeing the light of day We were robbed
looks retarded
>>56609403Looks REALLY retarded. I'm retarded so I should know.
>>56609403>w-we were robbed!!>proceeds to post the ugliest design known to manevery time.
that evo looks like shit, the only reason why you want it is because you cannot have it, if it was official you'd be shitting all over itdo we have to go through this fucking spiel every single time a retarded-looking abomination of a betamon gets discovered?
>>56609455Dont say that to manectric
>>56609403I'll be real with you OP, maybe they could have refined it or whatever, but everyone else in the thread is right, that final evo does look retarded
Yeah no it was a good thing they cut this evo concept.Not every beta design deserves to see the light of day.
>>56609403It looks dogshit and desperately needed design revisions That said why the fuck did they eliminate the shooting star motif from this line, it would've badly helped one of Hoenns ONLY electric types be less forgettable
they can fucking keep it im ngl
>>56609403thank god they cut manectric's retarded final evo
>>56609455These beta sprites prove how many shit tasters are in the fandom
>>56609403>Star motifIt’s just prototype Luxray
So far this is the only thing I found to be completely robbed from
Could it be salvaged?
>>56609403GIVE ME THE FULL BETAMON LEAKS.
>>56609700
>>56609403looks terrible.not saying the concept cant work but it needs some serious revision>>56609554now this on the other hand...
>>56609697if you posed it differently maybe, but that mohawk isn't doing it any favors.
>>56609730prototype scraggy evolved into prototype grovyle?
>>56609554The Snail warrior with a shield and the lickylicky were also amazing. This Manectric evo is not only a bad design, but looks like it ended becoming the Shinx line, wich is cool, because Luxray looks much better than this, and MegaManectric also looks much better than this beta design, so in this case i think it was a win/win for us.
>>56609430>>56609451manectric always looked stupid and just filled the role of being the only serviceable electric type in gen 3, so they may as well have just kept its stupid evo too
>>56609730always water pokemon that are the most hornyvaporeon chad was right
>>56609730Beta Greninja?
>>56609697pretty good job anon
>>56609730ROBBED FOR GREEN BARNEY
>>56609894politoed i think
>>56609951>>56609455
>>56609879ed.....ward.......
>>56609403Manectric was saved, that is one of the worst designs across the whole series including all betas
>>56609961Politoed is a gen 2 pokemon
>>56609730Danke.
>>56609998you are totally right, then ive no idea wtf this is
>>56609961anon, do you really think that they made a beta design for politoed in the development for a generation 3 game?i want you to think about this. Consider the fact that politoed is a gen 2 pokemon
>>56609879Thats a very weird looking Primarina
>>56610059yeah I forgor I just thought of frog pokemon that might make sense but forgot the fact it was a gen2 mon lmao
>>56609961>clef chestDon't think it's Greninja. Looks more like they wanted some musical frog and scrapped the idea all together
>>56610049apparently people are saying it IS beta greninja, at least half of it.people are saying it went on to later inspire seismitoad and it (seismitoad with the music frog motif, greninja for the tongue scarf)
>>56609894>>56609961the motif on its belly resembles a treble clef so I think this was probably a standalone Pokémon with a music theme as opposed to a ninja/martial artist one
>>56610087>>56610126ffs
>>56609730>Duskull remained completely untouchedTruly a perfect baby boy
>>56609554The silhouette is pretty much the same as final Escavalier, but the sleeker design with a fully armored head and less gaps in the armor gives it a much more different personality.Honestly the more I think about it the more natural it feels that Shelmet would evolve into Escavalier, from the design and the overall theme to even the name (Escargot + cavalier?). It makes the Shelmet/Karrablast gimmick look even stupider in hindsight. Either way, it still bothers me that the damn thing doesn't look like it should even stand upright, much less move.
>>56610140>starmie evoWE WERE ROBBED
it does indeed look mentally deficient
>>56609403But the Mega is very clearly a remix of that design.
>>56609403
>>56610193Finally, it's fixed...
>>56610242Silence mortal... you are in the presence of royalty...
>>56610185>Honestly the more I think about it the more natural it feels that Shelmet would evolve into Escavalierthis is because you doen't get the point of the lineKarrablast is based on the Carabus, a beetle that feeds on snailsit steals the armor from Shelmet when it evolves, becoming Escavalier, and Shelmet gains a lot of speed from relieving itself of the armor, becoming Accelgor. That's why they only evolve when you trade them with each other
>>56609894That's Tentaquil, silly.
>>56610193>Mom said it's my turn on the Xbox
>>56610242Dracozolt is good though and Eiscue is like 80% of the way there.
>>56610318Ah, right. I'd forgotten Karrablast's basis. Doesn't mean that a knight snail wouldn't have been cool, but I guess I must concede that the change wasn't done for no reason.
>>56609730This isn't all of them, as we've got some for later gens too. Still,>Red SeedotThat's a Keroro reference.>Latias/Blaziken fusionNeat>Yellow fella with a grin and present turtleROBBED>TrapinchVERY ROBBED, he's such a good little boy.
>>56609730I've seen backsprites for blaziken/latios and the flygon line...are there more??
>>56609730Kind of crazy to think that Lunatone was originally just its own Pokemon with no Solrock.
>>56609472>the only reason why you want it is because you cannot have it2000% preach
>>56609403>We were robbedkill yourself
>>56610185Thats sugi's design philosophy, if it looks too cool its not a pokemon. Hence why designs like this get sacrificed for stupid gimmicks
>>56609730I'm not sure what happened between gens 2 and 3 where the quality of spritework looks like it fell off horrendously. It must be the color palette and the fact that they don't use black linework, opting to outline a lot of the sprites with lighter colors. It just looks so amateur. This doesn't apply to the beta, gen 3 sprites as a whole just look off, they really didn't get consistent again till HGSS
>>56609430he's special!
>>56610667Think he's being sarcastic
>>56610242it's funny because you could switch the two and it would still be accurate to some of you clowns
>>56609730That one is literally Q-Bee
Edgy attempt by another anon
>>56609403Jesus fucking christ...
if you had ten years to improve and iterate a design, would you come up with seismetode?
>>56611770I like Seismitoad. Doesn't convey the musical motif too well though, I'll give you that.
>>56609554Could work as a paradox. Looks even more robotic than the final design
>>56609403We got luxray instead and that's good
>>56609403Honestly, the entire line should have been cut. It's ugly.
>>56609403I’m glad they robbed us. This looks awful. Granted, I don’t like Mega Manectric either, but it’s better than this.
>>56609951It looks ugly, but in a charming sort of way.
>>56609403Absolutely not, Manectric's perfect as a final evo.
i don't understand why people hate electrike/manectric, always thought they were cool
Manectric was one of my favorite mons from gen 3, and I used it again in XY when it got a mega, still it always felt kinda middlestagey.
>>56610305we were so robbed lads
>>56609403Fuck the stardog but I kind of like how retarded beta Electrike looks. It's very fucked-up looking in a cute way.
>>56609430This. It looks like a comedy skit costume with two retards in a suit or in case a toddler in star pajamas
>>56609730It seems as if they went to a tropical island to look for inspiration there, found some peyote... And the rest is history.Also Skitty looks sort of like a shell or marine like
Ok I fixed it
>>56613496Fuck I'm retarted
>>56610242I’m willing to bet beta Eiscue was actually a neat designmuch better than ice cube head
>Huntail>It uses it's tail to hunt>remove the tail>keep the nameGen 3, I kneel
>>56609877Dang you're right. Gen 3 didn't have many new electric types wtfinb4 plusleminunfags
Here, fixed
>>56613643Looks like a digimon
>>56609403Good, it looks stupid
>>56609730>got robbed of a mermaid pokemon>IN THE GEN WITH THE MOST FUCKING WATER UP TO THAT POINT
>>56613569You can tell that they repurposed the tail into Gorebyss.
>>56613569it still has the same gimmick, just HEAVILY toned downit’s a shame though, if it was released nowadays it’d have some kind of Mimikyu/Zoroark gimmick ability
>>56613569Kwab
>>56609403Man I'm sorry, I usually like the beta mons, but it's probably for the best this dog was never going to see the light of day, it's a weak design.
>>56609894Would have been a lot better.
>>56609730>crab with magnetic clawsI love it
>>56609403Mistar Boy looking motherfucker
>>56613569Any more comparison charts like this?
>>56609894>>56610126It was a clear inspiration, but it's clear it was intended to evolve from the Record Player Tadpole. They were probably also a prototype for Chattot.
>>56614112
>>56609730that Pokemon to the right of shuppet is incredible.
>>56614207It's a prototype Exploud.It took me a moment to figure it out but they seem to be paired in most leaked images. The former form is a Cymbal Baboon with big cymbal hands to making noise. The next form you can hardly tell is an ape but it's knuckles baring. With only a big grin, you can surmise it was meant to scream.
>>56609951So does this confirm Flygon's line was a dragonfly before they decided it would be an Antlion?
>>56609403It's horrible, Manectric sucks too. Electrike's OK
>>56613723Naaah.
>>56609697Keep fixing it and you'll just end up with a Luxray.
>>56610711Look at the Gen 2 beta sprites and you'll see the same stuff happening. A bunch of amateurish spritework and then there's a couple that had the same sprite in the final game as in 1997, which look great. Not even just Pokemon who had already been Sugimori'd to their final design, either. Game Freak clearly had a couple of really good sprite artists and the rest were a bunch of hacks whose work was either jazzed up by the good staffers or saved by Sugi design notes. The light colors do look off though, and the lack of outlining is present in final Gen 3 sprites. My speculation is that these sprites that date from 2001 were doing the thing all GBA games did that first couple of years and boost the contrast to work around the dark screen. RS was delayed too, meant to launch before the GBA turned one, but ultimately didn't come until the end of the year 2002. By the time the delay was inevitable, Game Freak must have known about the forthcoming GBASP and went back to more natural colors. Remember that they did the first 251 as a test to get familiar with the new hardware, and since most were to be unseen they weren't fixed and a lot of them have these messed up colors. The 212 Hoenn mons clearly had several passes to look more professional.
>>56609403Here's your cut evolution line
>>56611311Solgaleo?
>>56614159is there a higher res version of this? or of the individual boxes?
>>56614426Hmm... Make luxray's black fur the same shade of yellow as manetric's
>>56614426Yeah, and Raiou could be from Rai (thunder) and Raion (lion)
We WERE robbed because this was manetrics concept art
>>56609877Macectrics design encapsules all the worst aspects about Gen3/4 designs
>>56614529dumb speculation
>>56614275I was thinking more along the lines of Dakkamura (whatever the fuck the Gen5 fire ape is called). If it really was surpassed by Exploud thats sad. Exploud is an atrocity.
>>56614455Do you one better. Swap blue and dark parts of Luxray to get Leakmon's colour sheme
>>56613569>>56613928I believe Gorebyss was pure dex filler... Huntail, in both beta and final designs, is clearly a rework of the Anglerfish Pokemon from Spaceworld Gold, while Gorebyss seems to use beta Huntail's taile design appended to the body of beta Sharpedo, which is also a rework of a scrapped Spaceworld Gold mon- Ikari, the half-shark with an anchor tail. Sharpedo ended up being torpedo inspired and required a new design, leaving Ikari's body free.
>>56614548What other gen 3 pokemon can blue electric hound be?
>>56609430>>56609451I does but Its growing on me really fast, I like how big its muzzle is and I think it would have translated to 3D really well. Also I just dislike manetric, it looks like it is missing something and its mega didn't really help it. I think with a few tweaks the star dog could end up looking better then manetric ever did
>>56614581its not electricwhat pokemon in gen 3 is this then?
>>56614655Some mix of Kyogre and Lombre, since we know Lombre was heavy on the kappa river demon thing early on
>>56610193dg
>>56614698delulu, you have lost me goodbye
>>56611770I'm not sure if the ones outside of Scraggy were actually attempts at reworking the scrapped design so much as just hitting the same concept. Music frogs and small animals reproducing quickly and taking care of young in particular are rather stock ideas.
>>56614547Dumb Blazikenfag
>>56614836I would say Slurpuff is a pretty close hit. That said, I find it more interesting how many scrapped designs line up with scrapped Gen 2 designs. Someone liked them enough to iterate on them again only for them to be tossed... AGAIN.
>>56610193Starwhomst
>>56609403good.I love manectric and that evo sucks
>>56609403No we were notThat thing got cut for a reason
>>56614655gyaos
>>56609730Beta Relicanth is so sad to look at, it looks really pitiful.
>>56609894Tentaquil if he real
>>56615504It is an old man fish.
>>56615451Yes kaijuanon, everything is a kaiju
>>56609730That Peliper, Clamperl, Huntail and SharpedoWe were absolutely ROBBED
>>56610242did they ever reveal what the true forms of the fucked up fossil mon from gen 8 looked like?
>>56616081Peliper is shit
>>56609403>fur/mane spread over entire head and upper/frontal body with a kind of star-shapeUnironically that's Luxray.
>>56615504I mean, Coelacanths look sad in general.
>>56616091No.
>>56616124>>56614426
>>56609430Your point? All three of these early sprites look retarded. I'm sure if they'd kept it they would have refined it much more like they did the other two.
>>56614437yeah kinda
>>56609403No, we weren't robbed, we dodged a fucking missile. this has to be the worst of these gen 3 beta designs. it somehow looks uglier than mega manectric>>56609430FPBP
>>56613569It literally still has the tail though? Are all of you fucking blind?
>>56614305No, it's just little antlion into big antlion.
>>56609455They would shit on them if they came from newer gens btw
>>56617013The small Vibrava looks like a dragonfly larva more than it does an Antlion Larva, not that Trapinch really looks like an Antlion.
>>56609403Oh no, we will never have stupid ass piñata dog.
>>56614570>I believe Gorebyss was pure dex filler...Gorebyss exists to be a counterpart to Huntail because gen 3 was obsessed with adding pairs of Pokemon to fit the double battle gimmick, which didn't exist yet in the beta. It's the same reason Solrock was made when the beta only has Lunatone.>while Gorebyss seems to use beta Huntail's taile design appended to the body of beta Sharpedo, which is also a rework of a scrapped Spaceworld Gold mon- Ikari, the half-shark with an anchor tail. Sharpedo ended up being torpedo inspired and required a new design, leaving Ikari's body free.You are trying way too hard to fit everything into being reworks. Gorebyss probably was inspired by Huntail's old design but it looks absolutely nothing like either of the scrapped sharks in any way.
>>56616524>I-IT WOULD HAVE LOOKED GOODglad you agree the design is dogshit and there’s no reason to miss it
>>56613569>Literally went into the exact same process as Girafarig of toning down a second head tailWhat did they mean by this?
>>56614655Swampert
>>56617584Apparently even lure heads that are similar enough to trick someone cannot be allowed.
>>5660973090% of all the betamons we got from the leaks look so bad no one back in the day would believe they really came from GF.
>>56613569The design must’ve been split into the Huntail we have now, Gorebyss and Exploud
>>56609730It's funny how gen 3 added so many counterpart Pokemon for the doubles gimmick but they actually got rid of the Spheal/Penguin one.
>>56614529That's 10% Zygarde.
>>56614529that's clearly a hound of tindalos, nothing to do with electricity
>>56613569They had to add some dumb clam design to it too, as they got lost
