>becomes sentient with all 17 of its brothers>Feels "Jungian Fear" from coming into existence, attacks Arceus, the cause of it>Arceus kills all its fellow Giants>Curses it with Slow Start to be weak and lose for its transgressions>Forces him to push the continents together for the children of Dialga (Humans)>Starts making pale imitations of its brothers out of elements it finds lying around. >gets sealed away TWICE in the Snowpoint Temple by the same human traveling through time by ArceusWho has suffered more in the pokemon world than the king of the giants, leader of the giant trio, Regigigas?
>>56613486Shouldn't have chimped out
We'll get our revenge one day
>>56613634Regigigas lives for the sole purpose of living in Jungian fear of existence and trying to recreate his fallen brothers.>>56613621You try unexisting for eternity and then suddenly existing and see how you react!
>>56613486Didn't it attact Arceus' husband and children?
>>56613781Theres teo creation myths and the one it attacked the children makes less sense. Why? Because it adds a random mystery human and implies society instead being a basic chronology.
>>56613852The giant from the second story likely isn't Gigas though, it was probably something else, because the corpse was turned into the mountain at the center of Sinnoh, not the Snowpoint Temple mountain.
>>56613781There are several versions of the creation myth, and several versions of the giant(s). One version makes it sound like Giratinahttps://tcrf.net/Development:Pok%C3%A9mon_Diamond_and_Pearl/Documents
Going to try to make a summary of the different creation stories, to try to see a way to Hesiod them all togetherhttps://files.catbox.moe/9y2mn2.zip>Version 1 (03/25/05): The Titan Reek is born from chaos. After milennia, a human god Shin and a Pokemon god Gau are born and become friends. Shin and Gau seal Reek away and dismember its corpse to create the world. A dark god is born from Reek's left eye, the light god Ia is born from its right eye, and the time god Ea is born from its central eye. Ia gives birth to Ea(?) the god of sound, and the unnamed god of shadows, sky, and time. >Version 2 (03/25/05): The absolute divinity and god of happiness Aus eats cows and cats and is invisible. Aus gets pissed about humans going to war. In his anger and sadness, his claws fall from his hands, becoming the four-limbed diamond dragon, Ia. His tears fall from his eyes, becoming the two-limbed pearl dragon, Ea. Ia and Ea are terrifying gods of destruction. These seem to be the earliest versions of the myths, and are pretty drastically different from the later versions
>>56614193the arceus game already shows that none of this is canon by showing a primordial palkia and dialga and how they look exactly like arceus
>>56614193>Version 3 (04/12/2005): A egg is born from chaos, and the absolute god Aus emerges. The egg's fragments transform into giants and attack Aus. Aus defeats them. Aus infuses the corpses of the giants with blood from his left and right side, creating the God of Light, Ia and the God of Darkness, Ea. Aus goes to sleep. Ia and Ea have three children, Rei, Ai and Hai, the gods of eyes, heart and voice. The three gods sprout the tree of life from seeds given to them by Ia and Ea. Ea and Ia create Rayquaza, Groudon, and Kyogre to destroy the tree of life, which becomes the world. Rayquaza, Groudon and Kyogre become the heavens, earth and sea. Dragonite, Snorlax and Tyranitar are associated with Rayquaza, Latias Metagross and Latios with Kyogre, and three unknown mons with Groudon. Ia and Ea's next set of children are born. Children that look like Ia are called Pokemon and children that look like Ea are called humans. There are several versions of this story that are mostly similar>06/11/2005: Ea is the god of time. There's only Dragonite, Tyranitar, and Gyarados as the god mons associated with the weather trio. There's a continuation of the story where humans become greedy and go to war. Ia and Ea get so pissed they take on their diamond and pearl dragon forms, and destroy the supercontinent they were living on, and most humans. The lake trio intervene and calm down Ia and Ea. >06/19/2005 and 06/26/2005: Seems to be the same as above, with only minor differences in word choice and stuff. Some footnotes that specifically say the giants aren't Pokemon>07/29/2005: the egg shell fragments transform into a black giant. Aus creates the god of space, Ia, from the giant's right hand, and the god of tie, Ea from its let hand. The lake trio are born from its eyes, heart and throat. The weather trio are born from its nose. The July 29, 2005 is the last version of the creation myths. Will go into the other ones we have left
>>56613486Very norse mythology, having the world be built upon the corpses of giants
>Regigigas having Slow Start in a game without Pokemon abilities is literal divine punishmentDeepest lore
>>56613486The Regis aren’t the giants it’s what ever eternatus belongs to idiot
You fags are really running with this headcannon despite the fact that the Regis are shown as distinct from the Giants (who weren't even Pokemon)?
>>56614917So are giants something like ultra beasts or what?
>>56614672>Version 4 (April 12, 2005): There's both a giant egg, and Aus. Aus creates the god of light Ia, the god of time, Ea, and a black giant who destroys. They're explicitly brothers. Ia and Ea are to shape the world and the black giant is to break the egg. Aus sleeps. The giant, blessed by Ia and Ea, punches the egg and shatters it, and humans and pokemon spill out. The giant starts to kill the humans and pokemons. Ia and Ea try to stop him but can't bring themselves to kill their brother. They choose a human to kill the giant, and give him three companion mons. Ia and Ea turn the three mons into the lake trio. They kill the giant. Ia and Ea, mourning their brother, combine half of their souls with the giant's corpse, which splits his body and soul into three, forming the sky, earth, and sea, and rayquaza, groudon and kyogre. >Version 4 (April 12, 2005): Aus creates a giant from his power, to destroy the walls of the world to expand it. No mention of how the world itself was created, or how pokemon and humans were created. A human finds a wounded woman and has twins with her. The woman is Arceus, who was driven away by the giant that she cannot kill, since it's a part of her. The giant will destroy everything, and only their children can defeat it. The giant shows up and kills the father. Ia and Ea turn into their dragon forms and defeat the giant. Aus turns the father's soul into the lake trio. Aus turns the giant into Mt. Coronet.>Version 5 (April 12, 2005): Not really a creation story. It's a story of humans going to war, and pissing off Aus who destroys the supercontinent and causes the gods to disappear. Doesn't really discuss the origin of any of the gods either.These are the other myths from April 12, 2005, which was also when the original version of Arceus born from an egg was drafted.
>>56613486>gets locked in the basement of a frozen temple in norther sinnoh>forever cursed with slow startarceus hates that fucker
>>56614758Why was he cursed? He's not one of the giants that attacked arceus since he's a pokemon and the giants were explicitly NOT pokemon. So what did our beepboopbopbopbeep boy do to piss of Arceus so bad?
>>56614953Then there are two stories from June 27, 2005 that aren't creation stories, and instead seem to be variations of the war that pissed off Dialga and Palkia, as well as being lake trio origin stories>Version 6: There's a forest tribe that worships Ea, the god of time who lives on the moon. There's a village tribe that worships Ia, the god of light who lives in the sun. The village tribe starts cutting down the forest. A villager kills a starving Pokemon, who was the wife of one of the forest tribesmen. Ea creates winter to kill the village tribe. Ia then burns the forest. The world is going to shit. The survivors seek counsel from Aus. They're told to bring the slain wife mon's body. The god touches the eyes, heart and voice of the dead mon, creating the lake trio. The lake trio calm the gods, and restore the world. >Version 7: pretty similar to above, but more expansion on the war between the tribes. its the child of the pokemon and human who brings his mom's body to Aus on Mt. Coronet, and the lake trio is born.I remember there being a version of this where the dead pokemon is specifically an ursaring.
>>56614834There is no way in hell they planned Eternatus in gen 4.
>>56613486need one of these but with 17 regigigas all joining in beating up arceus
Never read pokespe, but doesn't Regigigas beat the shit out of the creation sisters in it
>>56615271What a gigachad
>giratina and regigigas will never team up to fight arceus
>>56615271Palkia is female, Dialga is male
Regigigas forming a trio with Ho-Oh and Lugia was the only thing out of the creation myth that wasn't gay.
>>56614937Sort of, yes. Whatever they are they're not pokemon.
>>56615047Ultra Beasts aren't strictly Pokemon, either, what's your point?
>>56615590Pokeballs don't struggle with Reigigigas like they do with ultra beasts. Also Regigigas is still a pokemon.
>>56615271He molests Heatran and beats the fuck out of Giratina too a couple chapters prior. Pokespe's Regigigas is easily the strongest in Sinnoh.
>>56615590Ultra beasts are still technically pokemon, they just have such an alien makeup that a soft distinction was necessary.
>>56615647>>56615271
>>56615615>>56615694Okay, another example, then. Pokeballs can contain Spiritomb, which is over a hundred evil spirits. Would you consider THAT a true Pokemon?
*bitch slaps that white hoe arceus*
>>56615802Why wouldn't you? Every living being is composed of numerous cells and minerals. We also have three moles, three floating magnets, a family of mice, etc.
>>56615433>Phallkia looks like a giant penis and balls.Looks like Asseus was a futachad all along!
>>56615886So it can do all that but something that technically isn't a Pokemon is impossible? It couldn't POSSIBLY be an in-universe misclassification?
>>56615047All giants attacked Arceus. He had to put them down and beat them until they were nothing more than plates.>>56615615>>56614917regigigas is literally "The Giant Pokemon." (Japanese text) and the creator of "the legendary giants." Word Kyodai is explicitly used the same as it is in the leaks. Regigigas is the only survivor of that battle, beaten into a weaker form, no longer a giant full form, but reduced to a pokemon.
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>>56616114Is that heatran?
>>56616052We could go with that, but then you'd have to prove that Regigias specifically is one of those giants, which is quite a stretch. Why would Arceus spare a giant, and why that one in particular? How did Arceus imbue its powers into a plate without killing it?>>56616088The plates were always there.>When the universe was born, those shards became Plates.>The powers bestowed to the Plates are the powers of defeated Giants.Arceus got the giants merc'd and put their powers into the plates he already had.
>>56616151Yeah
>>56616197holy shit regigigas is using it like a stress ball
>>56613719>You try unexisting for eternity and then suddenly existing and see how you react!We all literally did this
>>56616218not being fully cognizant
>>56614834My own Fanon is that Regigigas is probably a fragment or piece of the original giants.
>>56616179>Why would Arceus spare a giant, and why that one in particular?To make it suffer as a form of greater revenge. It was the last one standing.>How did Arceus imbue its powers into a plate without killing it?Regigigas may have done that itself, given that it's the reward for defeating it in Legends.
I like the headcanon that Regigigas haymaker'd god the instant it was born, but we need more than just "they use the same kanji for giant".>>56616397These are all headcanon assumptions though. We need actual leaks that suggest this.
>>56616397 (me)Additionally, the Blank Plate appeared for the first time ever in Legends.
>>56615271Regigigas in pokespe is weird. It catches itself while Dia is unconscious near snowpoint temple, and only pops out to fight other legendaries. I don't think it actually listens to what he says, but it seems to like him anyway. It also gives Heatran PTSD.
>>56616435Oh whoops, that page already got posted.
>>56616088Eternatus also has the same word for giant, and it doesn't have a negative ability. Moreover, Eternatus was defeated by the swords of justice, which by this point was long after the giants were supposedly slain.
>>566165152 of the stores talk about the death of the giants causing the expansion/growth of the universe.That is what eternatus is. The Giant's infinite energy expanding out without pause. Thats why the Giants energies produced by Eternatus causes GIGANTImaxing. It imbues the pokemon with the power of the giants directly.>>56616413>Blank plate, >the fact that Regigigas is the only pokemon not effected by Giratina's powers or powered up by Arceus to have a plate. >Regigigas was sealed away for his power>Snowpoint temple has the exact same architecture as sinjoh shrine>Regigigas is the only known pokemon to create other pokemon out of inorganic material>All the regi's brille etchings call them "the eternal pokemon that had to be sealed"
>>56615271>MOM HELP REGIGICHAD IS BULLYING US AGAIN
>>56617052Still too much conjecture that ultimately relies on one single word, which is no longer feasible when Eternatus didn't face Arceus and instead faced a world that was already fully developed.
why are you trying to connect Regigigas and Eternatus to abandoned lore that predated them?the common theme among the creation mythos docs featuring the giant is that its nature is simply to destroy. how is that supposed to relate to Regigigas, who is known for creating?
>>56617304Well you see they share the kanji for giant, which basically means Regigigas is everything I imagine him to be and more. That Regigigas who tows continents? Yeah, he's actually a half angel half demon eldirtch god who hates his parents just like me
>>56615141so?
>>56617409seems reaching desu. the closest thing to the giant would be giratina, and even then there's still a considerable disparity.the giant also fucking died, it wasn't sealed away. its body parts were dismembered and used to create the world. Regigigas is puny compared to what primordial eldritch horror GameFreak was envisioning.
>>56616251are you saying regigigas was cognjzant of non existence? how the fuck is that supposed to work?
>>56617495>primordial eldritch horror"giant gets killed and used to make the world" is a pretty common mythological themeThe chinks and the norse both have it more or less exactly
>>56615047Regi is the closest descendant of the ancient titans. Arceus was still seething
>>56617304In the case of Regi, there is some amount of circumstantial evidence in a recent game. Said game being about Arceus. I doubt anything short of explicit confirmation is going to be enough for you, though.
>>56617603>be born>18+ things immediately try to kick your ass>kill them all>but the seethe remains>fashion one of your later creations in their image>curse them with eternal lethargy>force them to rearrange continents>then seal them away in a tombArceus is a cruel god. Horny for human cock, but still cruel.
>>56617181Eternatus didnt exist when they came up with this theory dipshit. Why arent Yveltal Xerneas and Zygarde included despite being avatars of life death and the world itself. What about solgaleo and lunala who are the literal sun and moon
>>56617052Those two stories have the giant becoming Mt Coronet or the world/weather trio, with the latter giant very likely being Giratina. Don't know if we should be conflating all these giants from different versions of the story
>>56613486I'd love a game where Arceus summons a trainer to go subdue all the giants or some shit.
>>56617653Eternatus still throws the whole "they share a kanji thus they are the same" theory into the trash.
>>56617695It doesnt because eternatus didnt exist when the original theory was being written dipshit. By now they clearly dont even give a shit
>>56617840But it does because it suggests that was never their intention from the beginning.Regi is not one of the giants that fought arceus. The shared kanji isn't proof of this.
>>56613634his binds will be broken
What's the deal with beta Giratina
>>56618101if i was given a ballsack chin i'd rebel against god too
>>56617653In the first draft of the Lore there is a tree of life created by the lake trio, so something like the Aura trio was on the mind of gamefreak as early as gen 4s development.
>>56618036This is the kind of justice for Gigas I would dream of
my best guess is>the regis are whats left of the bodies of the elemental giants given form by Arceus.>Regigigas was the remains of the strongest giant, thats why it was handicapped.>all the other elemental giants bodies were used to create a regi of that type to function as the prototype/groundstone of each type, tying the chaotic elements to existence so other pokemon can utilize them.
>>56618258#JUSTICE4REGI
>>56613486He's not one of the giants
