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Humanfucker bitch "god" status: REJECTED
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>>56623002
Giant status:
REKT BY HUMAN
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>>56623047
>has to be severely nerfed and even then couldn't be killed
>the most that Arceus could do is curse him to be weaker
>still dogwalks all of her Legendary children anyway
It's not about winning, it's about having the will and spirit to beat god and her children within an inch of their lives
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>>56623002
So were the regis the "giants" that formed out of the shell of arceus' egg
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>>56623385
No clue it's all speculation
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>>56623002
Read the regies are made Arceus they are not the primordial giant
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>>56623411
The Japanese used for the primordial giants is the same as the Japanese for giants used for the Regis. Regigigas's name is literally King of the Giants in Latin. It makes sense to me that the original giants were formed from Arceus's shell, both being of Arceus while also not with Regigigas being the last survivor after being weakened with Slow Start.
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How is it that the Regis just get more based with every leak
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Regigigas just looks cool I don't even care about the lore
But the lore makes him even better
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>>56623002
>lightning regi moving twice as fast as all the others
>regigigas taking forever to start moving
giggled
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>>56623758
he refought dialga and palkia in the manga truly based.
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>>56623385
There's a footnote in one version that specifically says they're not giants. It should be noted that every myth with the egg shell giants says Arceus killed them and used their corpses to create Dialga and Palkia, among others. There's one version that suggests there was only one giant

There are other versions where the giant doesn't come from the egg at all, and was created by Arceus. Those versions suggest the giant is Giratina
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>>56623002
What new Regis are you all looking forward to?
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>>56625247
waiting for the ghost type
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>>56625294
ghost/poison type representing the postapocalyptic age
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>>56625247
Since my two favorite types already have Regis, I'd like to see a Regipsy (Regimind? Regibrain?)
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>>56625374
maybe scholar regi representing the renaissance age
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So let's really play with it. Assuming the giants are Regigigas' brethren, what are the really purpose of the Regi? Is it Gigas rebuilding his lost family? Or is he raising an army little by little?
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>>56625247
Ghost, Dark, Fairy and Psychic.
I wonder if, in the future games, you could give your Regi's their corresponding Type Plate and transform them into a state more reminiscent of their primordial forms.
Basically Primal Reversion but with the Regi's and Type Plates.
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Regigigas is my hero. Fuck the demiurge. We will all achieve gnosis.
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>>56623002
>Existence?
Rejected
>God
Punched
>My asscheeks (Blank Plate)
hidden
>The Bros
Remade
>Giant Energy (The Japanese name of Dynamax)
Absorbed

Oh yeah, Its Regi time. Age of Arceus is over. We Giants will take back our unexistence.
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>>56625928
>Galarian Weezing?
Suppressing my "ability" (curse)
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>>56625664
>Is it Gigas rebuilding his lost family?
>Or is he raising an army little by little?
It might be both.
Would be a good plot point for a future game.
We get introduced to new golems little by little, as, in the past, Gigas was trying to rebuild his brethren for Round 2 against Arceus.

Maybe give the Regi's Primal Reversion forms ala Groudon and Kyogre but only when they hold their corresponding Type Plate.

But how would humans get involved?

Maybe get an archeologist who discovered the truth about Creation and is trying to gather the Regi's to wage war against Arceus and destroy creation to rebuild it in his own image ala every other pokemon villain.

Maybe he was brainwashed by one of the new Golems and Gigas doesn't want to fight Arceus anymore as he mellowed out over time.

Maybe get a region where Gigas taught Golem Creation to Humans and have new artificial pokemon that can only be obtained via a crafting mechanic? Could probably create Baltoy and Golett using this mechanic alongside other, newer, golem pokemon.

The theme would probably looking to the past and learning how our ancestors used technology to live in harmony with nature, as well as to not repeat their mistakes.
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>>56623385
the little ones no, those are specifically said to be made by Gigas. Him having the blank plate implies there was a regigigas of each type and all but him were killed. The little Regis are just him missing his bros and trying to remake them.
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Sadly, GF is allergic to kino and will probably not do anything cool with the lore
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>>56625247
I like the Grass and Water ones
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>>56624136
refill me again on the regilore
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>>56623002
I always did think if I was in the poke world I'd worship the regis
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>>56627163
Someone dumped it in another thread
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>>56623002
WAR BROKE OUT IN HEAVEN
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Arceus cursed Regigigas with Slow Start because she knows she would get skullfucked in an actual.fight.
Typical goddess moment.
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>>56623385
It's all speculation, but since there was no normal plate when Arceus was added and Regigigas is normal maybe there was a Gigas for each typ, Aus killed all -1 and now the last giant is trying to rebuild new elemental regies
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>>56623758
What's insane about the "regigas wants to remake all back to primordial existence by killing God" is that he's basically less edgy Dagda plot from SMTIV:A
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>>56623002
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>>56623385
Not as far as anyone can tell, its main evidence is that Gigas has the blank plate in PLA and he's a big guy, but against it is that the Giant/s are called out as specifically not being Pokemon, either was killed/were all killed/was banished away, and the Regis are explicitly a part of Arceus's cosmology of kids/grandkids/greatgrandkids and so on.

It's not *impossible* but you need some way to square the circle here. Regigigas is as much a candidate as some proto-Zygarde/Original Dragon, or Giratina, as the middle two don't have any hard contradictions other than the "not a pokemon" thing which they have wiggle room for, and the latter has a lot of weird shit around it.

Best fits thus far are the Giant/Giants is them some kind of proto-concept for Necrozma, Eternatus, or maybe the Ultra Beasts who all fit way more cleanly into the mold.

Some have suggested that maybe they're ALL leftover bits and aftermaths of the giants, explaining why there's so many powerful legendaries with a shattered/weakened/degraded theme, and another anon suggested that maybe Regigigas is like Prometheus and turned on the others but was still cursed for whatever reason, patching over the question of why it's "part of the family" on the same level as Ho-Oh and Lugia.
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>>56627110
way better and more fitting electric and dragon regis desu.
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It's been a single day and Redditgigas fags are almost as insufferable as Pelinal Redditstrake fans.
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>>56629799
Another big point in Gigas's favor is the names. In latin, Regigigas translates to King of the Giants. Additionally the characters used to describe the Regi family (Giant of X) are the same used for the Giants in the leaked creation myth.
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>>56629828
A fair point, but by the same metrc, the regis are mentioned later in at least one of the myths as separate from the Giants.

Granted if Regigigas betraying the others is true, maybe his reward was a crown to go with his curse.
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>>56627110
All of these are over designed.
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>>56629854
That can be reconciled if you consider that the other Regis were made at a later time by Gigas. So Gigas is one of the original giants but the other Regis are facsimiles created by it.
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>>56625247
Fire. llama bitch needs to be slow simmered for slow start
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>>56623385
>So were the regis the "giants" that formed out of the shell of arceus' egg
no, regis are irrelevant shitters that came billions of years later
and the giants are all dead, meaning Regishit cant be one, since its still alive
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>>56630205
t.arceus trying to scrub her past
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>>56629861
The psychic and flying ones are neat
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>>56624291
>mythology in pokemon is the same mess as mythology irl
kino
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>>56626122
>The little Regis are just him missing his bros and trying to remake them.
right in the fuckin feels.

Do.. you think he named them after them?
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>>56630898
A true king never forget his homies
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>Regigigas can’t learn explosion or self destruct
>the other Regis it created have a built in just fucking explode functionality from level 1
What on Earth did Regigigas mean by this?
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>>56625247
fire type, water type, dark type, flying type, and fighting type
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>>56630939
worst case scenario they can blow up in the face of god
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>>56630939
He wanted them to have the choice he never did
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>>56630961
>REGI AKBAR
Lmao
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>>56630972
Dark type regi confirmed
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>>56630971
>suddently exist
>don't want to exist
>continue to exist for 13,787,000,000 years because God won't let you Rest

Makes sense
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>>56623002
Based and deicidepilled
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>>56630972
>Regigigas and Pokemon ISIS vs God
Lmfao
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>>56631716
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>>56630939
>>56630971
>>56631096
he's giving them the choice of life, the thing that was his and his brother's undoing
so fucking kino
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>>56627110
they banished regiflesh because he could beat god
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>>56623385
No, it's just one annoying faggot trying to spam his headcanon. The giants are explicitly stated to not be Pokemon.
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But the regis have nothing to do with those giants right? If anything Dialga and Palkia have more to do with them
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>>56627110
this is a far superior electric regi
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>>56631890
what does it say
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>>56632124
idk regieleki is kinda dope in how it dances
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>>56632101
>But the regis have nothing to do with those giants right?
No
earth didnt even exist when Arceus BTFOd the giants
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>>56625247
Poison. Registinky
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>>56632202
regigigas
I never asked for this
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>>56632262
I wish this idea gets revisited in the futur and the defeated giants are actually made into actual legends, or some of those legends with murky origins like Eternatus or Reggigas get retconned into being their leftovers
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The Regi Yhwach shitposting... the timing couldn't be more perfect...
Jugram and Uryuu can be Regice and Regidraco I guess?
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>>56623002
>something something eggshells
>wants to kill Arceus
People keep memeing it up but no one ever posts the leak. Where is it?
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>Regigigas is an egg
>doesn't learn Softboiled
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>>56632512
>Regigigas original ability was "A - The Asspull" all along
>He created the World as We know it
not even Slow Start could stop Regigigas from pulling it out.
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I don't get the tale

If Regigigas can create life- which only God can do

Than shouldn't he at least at Arceus level if not near it?

So technically speaking - amother God in the poke universe?
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>>56633034
He's more like pokesatan, punished specifically because he can do all the same shit, but instead just wants to murder god.
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>>56633034
He's Arceus eggshell but alive.
He's a godlike being in his own right
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Soon, we will awaken him once more. His children will be by his side, living giants from a time forgotten given purpose once more. My brothers and sisters will be there as well. We will drive the Arcsian dogs from Sinnoh, by will of Gigas, and we will see the blasphemous god slain by Their hands. The world will belong to the titans, this I swear
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>>56633052
isn't he more like lucifer? Giratina should be satan
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>>56633034
>If Regigigas can create life- which only God can do
counterpoint: Humans created Mewtwo
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>>56633088
Legitimately pokegod's asshole brother born of the exact same source, essentially on the same tier as arceus, but got nerfed to shit when he lost the original Primal fight over whether things will exist or not.
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Titan-Gigas deniers still have no rebuttap against the plates being made of the power of giants and Gigas specifically reacted to them in LA, not his actual Regis like in previous games.
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>>56623002
>arceus uses the plates to power up
>the plates are what remains of the giants
>arceus killed each giant for its plate then used that power to kill the next giant.
>regigas survived only because its plate provided arceus no tactical advantage
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>>56629861
especially the rock, ice, and steel ones
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>>56633168
To be fair worshipping the regis seems more fun than a zeus expy with the same shenanigans.
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>the egg came first
>Regigigas is the egg
KNEEL BEFORE THE ORIGINAL POKEMON. NOW.
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>>56633034
Pokemon lore is based off shinto with some Greek myth influence.
Of course there's a pantheon of gods in the pokemon universe, most being legendaries especially and pseudo-legendaries are treated as demi-gods according to the leaks.
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If Regigas is like the Titan gods of Greek myth, then the swirling chaos that made the egg should be considered as a formless pokemon in and ofnitself.
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>>56627110
That Bug one is the best.
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Regigigas isn’t even mentioned in the leaked creation lore. The writer explicitly states that the giant(s) aren’t pokemon and all of them were fucking killed and their corpses used to create the world (and in some revisions) create Dialga and Palkia. They’re unknowns.

Also, the legend diagram has an explicit spot for Regigigas under Mesprit and Groudon. He’s one of Arceus’s bitches.

OP is spamming the board with his fanfiction.
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>>56637064
>t. Aus seething because regigigas stomped her
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>>56637064
>What is implication?
>What is environmental story telling?
>What is a "High Context" culture aka japanese culture?
Titangigas deniers are brainlets.
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>>56627110
i want to get pounded by regiflesh
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>>56631903
They also all know curse
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>>56637182
>>56637235
holy cope
your legendary is an afterthought
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>>56637896
>Didn't answer any of the questions
Thanks for proving my point, retard.
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>>56638425
>>Didn’t answer any of the [COPE]
sorry, sweaty. I simply don’t care!
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Why didn't he want to exist? Is he autistic?
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>>56638551
arceus is lorkhan, the regis are the bitch aedra who couldnt handle creation
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>>56633034
regishitter is a meme
he's just a random legendary with a joke ability
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>>56637064
>Regigigas isn’t even mentioned in the leaked creation lore. The writer explicitly states that the giant(s) aren’t pokemon and all of them were fucking killed and their corpses used to create the world (and in some revisions) create Dialga and Palkia. They’re unknowns.
>
>Also, the legend diagram has an explicit spot for Regigigas under Mesprit and Groudon. He’s one of Arceus’s bitches.
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>OP is spamming the board with his fanfiction.
yup
But dont expect regishitter redditors to listen to common sense
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>>56623385
The main evidence against it is the circle, which we know is still mostly canon, putting him on par with Lugia and Ho-oh, who according to the myth were created after the big legendaries.
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>>56623758
A Xenogear edit, my man!
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>>56638477
You cared enough to respond, faggot.
>>56638620
>Doesn't understand enviromental storytelling
>Can't extrapolate information from context
Why are Gigas-deniers such brainlets?
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Does anyone have all the leaked texts in English?
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>>56638702
kys regicel lmao
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>>56638707
https://tcrf.net/Development:Pok%C3%A9mon_Diamond_and_Pearl/Documents
they haven't translated everything
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This makes hundreds of Regis logical. I mean it's not a retcon if the creation myth is like this. It's not like Regigigas molded all the new or even the old Regis.
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Regi cucks…?
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>>56639223
Hot
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>>56638773
You first, deniertranny.
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>>56630939
>Turns out the regis are just glorified pipe-bombs that Regigigas just sends to Arceus constantly just to be a bitch
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>>56623002
>jobs to ONE (1)(UNO)(ANRE)(HITOTSU) normal ass human
Step aside, Rejojobas, humanity coming through
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>>56631890
kek
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>>56623002
I don't know, Regigas... you seem awfully concerned about who Arceus is fucking. Do you want to tell us something?
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>>56639223
Run it back. Again and again. Until it’s successful.
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>>56641023
Holy based
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>>56638551
Imagine if you were in a state of living where the concepts of pain, suffering, chaos, all the troubles of the modern reality were non existent. A state of total harmony.
Now imagine a woman, instead of staying put in their cell, steps out of that cell, violently shattering this status quo into a primordial chaos of mayhem and total insanity. Time and Space as the primordial know it go haywire, trying to comprehend what the fuck just happened, and you are filled all at once with the sins and troubles of every living thing all at once. Your very birth is filled with pain and suffering. Your total harmony and eternal, blissful rest, unable to even comprehend the notion of suffering, ruined. All because the whore did not stay in their prison.
You would be pissed too.
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What do we call regi worshippers?
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>>56641157
Of course he did, after all, a Father always protects his children, law of the universe right there.
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>>56643036
???
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>>56643036
morons
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>wake up
>still exist
>tfw
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>>56623002
Guess you could say, ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>56638620
There are different drafts of the lore and one says Arceus cursed the giants with slowness. They don’t need to say it outright to know what they’re talking about, considering the giant is a pokemon in some of the variants too. They definitely cycled through Regigigas, Kimairan, and the weather trio for the titan.
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>>56623002
Why do Regi tourists keep using the Galar abominations?
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>>56645286
All Regis are made in the image of our fallen brethren. We love them all the same and allow them to explode if they want.
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>>56643036
Reginigas
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>>56633034
>If Regigigas can create life- which only God can do
porygon is literally made from scratch by random hobos in a lab
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People that know the lore well.
Is Regigigas the only one, other than Arceus, who has created new Pokemon from scratch?
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>>56646045
also see mewtwo, genesect, revived fossils, castform
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>>56641735
>not wanting to fuck Regigigas
What are you, a fag?
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>>56635760
kek
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>>56623385
Regigigas is an original giant holding a plate, the other Regis are just recreations by Gigas
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>>56625928
>dynamax is called Giant Energy
>Regigigas is found in a dynamax den after uniting his creations
Cool but also brings up the main problem - legendary Pokemon should have NEVER been able to be captured and should have strictly been boss battles through the series. Either make Legendaries rare Pokemon that there are multiple of and mythical’s singular beings, or vice versa, but having multiple is dumb and gay, and the same goes for the multiverse dogshit.
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>>56633052
He’s the poke-demiurge, Giratina is the poke-satan and technically ultranecrozma is the poke-lucifer
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>>56642953
>Arceus is Marika
deepest lore, bravo masuda mitsubishi
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>>56647276
I’d say arceus is the demiurge since reality is flawed. Gira Tina is moreso just a being powerful enough to challenge the demiurge since it was a piece of its birth.
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>>56646817
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>>56647351
Humans technically have with the Porygon line.
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>>56647337
>since reality is flawed
Only to you, regigiganiggas
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>>56647337
>since reality is flawed
Flawed in what way?
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>>56626031
This art is amazing. Major Spawn energy. Can I get a sauce?
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>>56623385
They all dead nigga
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>>56647131
I'm increasingly fond of the theory that Regigigas, since it actively creates new things [and doesn't, you know, kill itself to escape the pain of existence] and is part of the official hierarchy, that Regigigas probably turned on the other giants because it actually liked shit existing only to later spook the fuck out of Arceus by showing mankind how to make the Regis and triggered her PTSD and got punished for it like Prometheus.
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>>56648415
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>>56647909
Signature is in the corner.
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>>56643036
Reginiggas
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>>56648415
This version seems to be Giratina.
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>>56647507
A reality that allows bad things to happen is clearly a reality not built to be good.
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>>56627110
The Flying-type one looks awesome.
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>>56641023
Looking at the moves the original regis all have in common, so many of them have significant drawbacks that it really does seem like they were meant to be disposable fire and forget artillery
>curse
>superpower, hammer arm
>lock on+zap cannon, hyper beam
>explosion
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>>56629228
I HAVE YOUR BACK TO THE WALL
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>>56650236
Why do you think there are so few regis? Most of them were already mailed to Arceus under a pseudonym.
The ones we have are just the ones that remained after Big A decided to get rid of his mailbox.
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>>56652021
>Regigigas is Uncle Ted but with sentient bombs.
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>>56649152
There are no bad things, only inadequate perception and events that go against your personal conatus.
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>>56623002
Regigas is a Giant...
A giant loser
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>>56652283
Shut up Arceus im gonna fucking kill yuo!!!!
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>>56624159
It takes exactly 5 cycles for regigigas to start moving
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>>56629815
Nah, spastic adhd regi is cute. There's no salvaging draco though, who even fucking greenlighted this trash.
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>>56654900
⠋⠥⠉⠅ ⠏⠕⠅⠑⠋⠥⠉⠅⠑⠗⠎
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People don't seem to realize the Regis are also supposed to represent human history/technological progress.

>Ice: Ice age
>Rock: Stone age
>Steel: Iron age
>Eleki: Electric/Modern age
>Drago: Age of Myths/Pre-history

If there's every a water type Regi it'd probably end up as Registeam, for example. Fire might be Regisol or Regirocket if they want to throw subtlety out the window, either for the Space age or Atomic age.
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>>56654900
should say "will come to you in 5 turns"
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>>56655045
…Which is greater support for Gigas as the titan, as now he represents an age himself. The Primordial age, the before times.
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>>56655045
>People don't seem to realize the Regis are [FANFIC]
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>>56655045
Has this theory ever been explicitly confirmed? I mean it makes sense, but did anyone from the dev team say that was the actual intention?
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>>56647393
Technically some of the pollution poison types too
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>>56626103
>Maybe get a region where Gigas taught Golem Creation to Humans and have new artificial pokemon that can only be obtained via a crafting mechanic? Could probably create Baltoy and Golett using this mechanic alongside other, newer, golem pokemon.
stop discussing good ideas that will never ever happen
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>>56623002
*rapes you*
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>>56632314
regipoopy!!!!! haha, registinky poopy!
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>>56652252
A reality that allows for that is flawed.
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>>56658508
kek
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>>56627110
These are all really cool. Only one I feel iffy about is the dark one.
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>>56627110
The flesh one on top left, dark and fairy are overdesigned garbage that forgot the basic design tenets of pokemon or regi. The rest I like.
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>>56659219
the fuck you talkin shit about regiflex
regiflex is a motherfucking masterpiece
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>>56631989
>gave himself 200 attack just so he could punch Arceus extra hard, forgot to put points in his defenses
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>>56652021
>Regigigas is Tedpilled
based
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>>56658508
>no Crush Grip
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What if the Regis got megas that made them bigger and reflected their heritage as giants, while Regigigas got a primal form
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>>56658508
any musicchads here? can someone make a version of ONE MORE GOD REJECTED with its lyrics replaced with omp sounds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R14WHw2GZk
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>>56646899
CRUSH GRIP
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>>56661134
Not megas, but Primal Reversions ala Groudon and Kyogre.
What items would they use to Revert?
Why the elemental Plates of their respective Giants, of course. They are, after all, the only thing that's left of them.
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reject the demiurge, return to entropy
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>>56638782
wait so my mans getting slandered because they don't know that shojo can also mean young woman?
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>>56658508
I'LL CRUSH GRIP YOU
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>>56661897
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>>56661736
and because twitterfags think children can get pregnant.
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>>56661897
B-b-b-based
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>>56661897
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>>56654900
ftfy
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>>56662197
>>56662181
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>>56623002
>Regigigas slow start
>Regeleki twice as fast
This gif always makes me smile
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>>56662197
>primordial chaos
more like primordial peace
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>>56662423
Should say "Redeemer of Regignosis.

Gnosis is all he wanted. But I guess now he just wants to recreate his bros.
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>>56662521
Yeah recreate his bros into pipebombs to mail to Arceus
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>>56663208
Nah, he just gives his creations the option to end themselves as soon as they are born because he knows how painful existing can be if you don't want to.

Before VIII changes for balance because of ease of access to the move reminder, Every Regi would learn Explosion as the very first move in their movelist.

This aligns perfectly in the lore with Regigigas not wanting his creations to have to live if they don't want to.
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>>56663399
Regigigas making living pipebombs to put in Arceus's mailbox is funnier to me
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>>56663644
It can be both.
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>>56623002
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>>56664618
>Alright kids, I know life can be shit so I gave you all a self destruct function so you can end yourself whenever, all I ask is that you do it somewhere that can hurt that bitch that brought this world into existence.
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>>Alright kids, I know life can be shit so I gave you all a self destruct function so you can end yourself whenever, all I ask is that you do it somewhere that can hurt that bitch that brought this world into existence.
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>>>Alright kids, I know life can be shit so I gave you all a self destruct function so you can end yourself whenever, all I ask is that you do it somewhere that can hurt that bitch that brought this world into existence.
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>>56661736
it's young woman if you read it as otome, and you don't get to use otome after having sex because it's a purity designation rather than an age designation
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>>56665812
It translates directly to English "maiden"
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Un Un Un
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>>56665543
The most based creator
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>>56661729
Pretty similar to a dream I had a few nights ago (thanks to chronic pain meds) where Regigas ran up to Arceus while yelling ‘That abomination is MINE!’ (same line and voice as the Dreadnaught from Space Marine 2) before one-punching it through several skyscrapers.
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>>56649152
There is no concept of good without the opposite, or bad. One cannot appreciate the "good" things of life unless there are bad things to contrast it. An existence consisting only of the good would be monotone and stagnant.
It's through strife and adversity that the values of goodness and kindness are forged to combat them.
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>>56636709
The egg is just an egg. The broken shards of the primordial egg became the giants, who fought and died against Aus. It's divine blood was then mixed with the remains to create Pokémon, Gigas included. It might have some of the giant's essence but it's still a Pokémon, one of Aus' creations.
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>>56666609
Why do those things need to be valued?
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Does Regigigas enter the list?
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>>56666708
They don't *have* to be, they just are. If you witness or experience something good, you feel content by that because you know there are also bad things that exist out there. If you have no concept of bad (and therefore good), an action is just an action; there's no particular response to a random act like all others.
What you call a "flawed" reality can only be understood by having the concepts of good and bad, the peaks and valleys of existence. If everything was just neutral and stagnant, what would be the purpose of anything?

Imagine the scenario of the heat death of the universe. All it is is total homogenization, the complete lack of any diference and individuality on an absolute level.
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>>56666736
First pokemon are the lake trio who subsequently created humans because they represent consciousness and sentience

Ai and Ea didn't take on Pokemon forms as palkia and dialga until way later. Likewise Aus' Pokemon form wasn't revealed to the world until arceus legends.
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>>56636380
(schizo headcanon fanfic bullshit time)
Regigigas is the father of man and why we as a species survived. Humanity is his special project.
Regirock's Sealed Chamber in Hoenn as this to say.
>ENG: Living our lives in this cave, we had prospered. Everything was from the help of Pokémon.
>JPN: 私たちはこの穴で暮らし生活し、そして生きてきた。全てはポケモンのおかげだ (In this hole we have lived our lives, thus existing. It’s all thanks to the Pokémon.)
The people in ancient time's acknowledged the Regi's for their continued existence and survival. The fact that the materials that form Regirock exist far within the inner layers of the planet means he must've been born a long time ago. And considering that something like ruins can be found dating back to the Stone Age, perhaps that is what Regirock did, teaching humans of stone and how to build so that they may survive such a dangerous world with no powers of their own.

Regice appeared in a similarly troubling time, as seen below.
>Its body is made of ice from the ice age. It controls frigid air of -328 degrees Fahrenheit.
>Its entire body is made of Antarctic ice. After extensive studies, researchers believe the ice was formed during an ice age.
>Research revealed that its body is made of the same kind of ice that is found at the South Pole.
>This Pokémon’s body is made of solid ice. It’s said that Regice was born beneath thick ice in the ice age.
>It is said to have slept in a glacier for thousands of years. Its body can’t be melted, even by magma.
If Regirock taught humans to work with minerals, then the Regice must’ve provided a similar help in a frozen environment, and the primary need for people living in the extreme cold can’t be anything else than heat. Ice can be used to preserve high temperatures, after all, igloos being the obvious example. Perhaps it taught them how to survive in such a harsh world, survive anywhere.
>1/2
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>>56666855
>(2/2) Continued
Registeel is more vague, with not a lot of detail.
>It’s rumored that this Pokémon was born deep underground in the planet’s mantle and that it emerged onto the surface 10,000 years ago.
We know it was around then that the Ice Age ended, if it correlates to the Wurm Glaciation of our world. Perhaps, to make an assumption here, Registeel taught humans of metallurgy and how to use metals. If his brothers did help out the humans, I see no reason to say that Registeel didn't do the same.

Thus, I'd worship Regigigas and his creations heartily, and it seems like the people in that world did so with gusto. Seeing as we keep finding these golems in very decorated temples or ruins (or prisons, if you're feeling heretical). Like the chambers in Hoenn, the temples in Galar, or the complex in Unova. "Coincidentally", it seems as if each culture with their own set of Regi's had advanced abilities with creation too. The Claydol in Hoenn, the Golurk and Sigilyph in Unova, and the Stonjourner or Runerigus in Galar. They obviously learned much. Regigigas himself is usually found in a place of power too, you may interpret his position at the bottom of a temple to be him being dumped in a cold dark pit, or perhaps it was a temple made for him that the clergy visited. We see in PLA that it was once far larger. Perhaps Regigigas regularly hibernates to conserve his strength, and temples of worship are regularly built around him since he sleeps for so long.

Anyways, that was my schizo rant for the day.
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>>56666826
People are defined by their strongest memories, and their strongest memories are always negative. Any joy that is found is eclipsed by the fact that we have evolved to fixate on suffering.
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>>56666871
Oh right, more evidence. Bronzong and Bronzor were also made in Sinnoh a long time ago, possibly with knowledge gained from Regigigas or studying his creations.
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>>56666877
Are they? Plenty of people define themselves by their fondest memories of childhood, or by a moment early on when they decided what path they wanted to follow in life, or even the moment they gathered the resolve to turn their life around. All positive moments which make up the core of that person's sense of self.

If you or yours define yourselves by your negative memories, that's tragic to hear, but it absolutely doesn't apply to people in a general sense. Even then, a negative memory can lead one to find the strength and will to fight against it, to make sure others don't have to experience something similar; a "good" thing by any reasonable metric.
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>>56666855
>>56666871
Fun theory. I wouldn’t call him “father of man” in this situation though. Sounds a bit too much like a creator.
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>>56666871
>Is born despising existence and fighting to end it
>Decides that instead of fighting he will simply create and teach those who also never had a say in this matter how to survive the new world
>Ends up as a curator of existence and benefactor of man
Lord Gigas… we are not worthy of your mercy…
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>>56627110
I like all of them but I really like Bug and Ghost. Unrelated: I want eevelutions for every type.
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>>56666965
No. People are defined by the worst things that happen to them. That’s how adaptation works. Sure, we learn about good things too, but the reason your brain remembers that time your parent said something hurtful to you as a child, or that time you were bullied bad in middle school, is because those memories allow you to avoid similar situations. It’s a survival mechanism. Positive feelings are in the moment. It feels good to drink a glass of ice water when you are thirsty, but that won’t be a defining memory for you. It’s helpful to know what good things are, sure, but that’s in the moment. Negative memories are key to survival.
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>>56667025
Need a game with every type as a Regi. Maybe split in half between games. One game has the special type Regi, and the other has the physical type Regi.
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>>56666871
>(3/2) CONTINUED
Had a brainwave, why were (in-universe) Regieleki and Regidrago only in Galar? Because if each Regi has things to teach humanity, why was Galar granted access to the golems that possibly represent electricity and (I have no clue on this front) magic or something?

Because a long time ago, Galar was ruled by Calyrex, a Pokémon that could see into the future, it was the only polity around that could feasibly understand and use their powers well. Unfortunately, the Darkest Day happened, Pokémon were feared (as was the style at the time), and the golems were imprisoned by a fearful humanity, propaganda used to erase all mention of Pokémon ruling them, even in the twin dog heroes being replaced by a story of a single man with a sword and shield. If Calyrex still ruled, perhaps the world of Pokémon would be a golden age, where even the miraculous technology of AZ would be outmatched and proliferated three thousand years early.
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>>56667030
I don't disagree that negative memories are an evolutionary trait, but one doesn't necessarily define themselves by those. It can be a part of it, but to say that's the only possible way sounds at the very least reductive.
It also doesn't disprove what I said about good and bad being intrinsically linked. As in, the concept of good or bad doesn't exist without the other. You need the contrast to recognize one or the other and the feelings associated with that are a result of this contrast.

Coming back to the original point of fictional animals and PokéGod, the first thing that happens is Aus coming out of the egg, making the pieces big mad and them fighting. Contrasts and opposing forces was always a foundational notion, but that doesn't mean it's flawed.
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>>56667073
Me like. I uh, don't have Regi art.
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>>56661897
>regigigas when the five turns have passed
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>>56666967
>"Sounds a bit too much like a creator."
>-Anon, about the giant that literally created golems
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>>56666871
>>56666917
>"Coincidentally", it seems as if each culture with their own set of Regi's had advanced abilities with creation too. The Claydol in Hoenn, the Golurk and Sigilyph in Unova, and the Stonjourner or Runerigus in Galar

>Oh right, more evidence. Bronzong and Bronzor were also made in Sinnoh a long time ago, possibly with knowledge gained from Regigigas or studying his creations.

Do you think we'll be able to craft our own golem pokemon in a future game?
Maybe use the resources collected in the game in some sort of alchemical ritual and create golem pokemon, both old and new.
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>>56667369
I could see a sort of mix and match thing, or something along the lines of the Galar fossils, but I doubt it'd go full pokemon creation.
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>>56667561
I disagree. It fits right into the whole theme of lost technology of an ancient civilization.
I feel like creating golem pokemon outright is much easier and less complex than mixing and matching ala the galar fossils.
I mean, we already have the pre-established end products, you just need to gather the materials necessary and put them together in just the right way.

Like, I can see Baltoy being created using Soft Sand and some sort of Psychic-type core, and Golett being made out of Light Clay and some sort of Ghost-type core.

Hell, maybe of of the future Regi's will be Fairy-type and is found in the Azoth Kingdom Ruins, as Magearna is animated by a Fairy crystal core.

So much potential...
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>>56667807
*maybe one of
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>>56623002
We gettin' SMT vibe with this new lore drop.
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>>56626031
regigigas is gonna make a regi that produces neutralizing gas just so he can have a fair fight with Arceus
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>>56652077
he's the fucking bjork stalker constantly sending bombs to Arceus
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>Gnosticism changes from cringe to based just because a pokemon didn't like interspecies fucking
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While I still can't say that Regigigas is my favorite Pokemon, the lore implications are fucking kino. A Pokemon Titan or a fragment of one. Imagine if Regigigas becomes the actual final antagonist of Pokemon.
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>>56668754
Imagine Pokémon Titan and Pokémon Divine, you have Regi and his bros/kids be the antagonist in one game while horny llama and the incest twins will be the antagonist in the other.
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>>56668914
kino
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>>56667073
>instead of gyms you just have ancient regi’s and the type they are attacking you
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>>56666877
>People are defined by their strongest memories
Most people don't define themselves based on memories at all, and if you define yourself on a bad memory that's usually called terminal depression.
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>>56669984
I’m not saying “define yourself” as a literal conscious decision. I’m saying that your dad calling you a retard every day growing up will have a stronger effect on you than your mom saying she loves you every day. Watching someone die overrides a thousand days where you don’t watch someone die.
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>>56666877
>their strongest memories are always negative
You should try having a friend or something.
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>>56670570
I’m not saying good memories aren’t memorable. They just don’t have as strong effect on behavior because they don’t tie themselves to survival instincts.
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>>56623002
My schizo theory is that Regigigas isn't the actual titan, but Arceus's recreation of the lead titan. Arceus used him to rebuild earth to her liking and gave him slow start to use him as an example for all who dare to defy god.
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>>56670589
Pseudoscience garbage. Eating and drinking is basically instinctual and everyone, besides you apparently, has a good memory involving those. I'm sorry about whatever bad thing happened to you but don't project it on everyone else.
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>>56670658
You just don’t get it. Think of it like the first time you touched fire. It fucking hurt and that pain seated itself into your brain so that you wouldn’t repeat the same mistake. This is just that for more complex social situations. It’s how you learn to survive. If you didn’t have strong negative memories, you’d be repeating avoidable social mistakes regularly. It’d be like touching the oven each time you turn it on.
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>>56670998
dude just admit you have adhd you depressed sack of shit
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>>56671009
I’m not even depressed. Do you really not have a single negative memory in your head that has informed anything about how you behaved at any point in your life? You’re just missing out on this core piece of the human experience?
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>>56671030
oh yeah I have those, don't get me wrong, but the positives are amazing, too.
I managed to get my bluesky up and running so now I have people who can interact with my photography, I managed to get to japan to visit my brother who lives out there, I was able to do so many cool things, and who cares about the negatives?
sure I struggle with things, personal hygiene is fucked due to a broken dopamine loop, but that's my issue to fix, and by golly god I'll fix it.
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>>56670545
>I’m saying that your dad calling you a retard every day growing up will have a stronger effect on you than your mom saying she loves you every day
Extremely arguable.
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>>56670998
>If you didn’t have strong negative memories, you’d be repeating avoidable social mistakes regularly.
Are you a fucking barn animal? Normal human beings know how to act in social situations or figure it out without getting hurt.
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>>56671154
nah, dude's just neurodivergent.
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>>56671053
I’m not saying that positive things aren’t great. I’m saying that the reason we know they’re positive is because they’re paired with negative experiences in the past. If nothing ever went wrong in your life, then you wouldn’t be capable of appreciating the good stuff since you have no comparison. It’s like when you go to that kid’s house who yells at their parents. They don’t appreciate the positives because they’ve never experienced the negatives.being punished by your parent teaches you to be careful around authority figures. That’s a helpful life skill that can lead to positive memories, that’s informed by a negative memory. I’m not saying that someone being exceptionally kind can’t become a strong formative memory, I’m just saying it’s less common.
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>>56671154
Your dad never yelled at you for some bullshit that you did, which informed you on how you should stop doing said bullshit. That’s literally all that’s being discussed here. Cause and effect.
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>>56671192
The exact opposite also works you know that right
Negatives aren't negative if you've never experienced anything positive to compare it to
>b-b-but pain and sorrow are instinctive so you don't need --
Good food, seggs, love, and a good night's sleep are also instinctive.
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>>56671298
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen. I’m just saying that the “ouch I touched fire, won’t do that again”, “oops I did something mean and felt repercussions, won’t do that again”, or “I made a mistake and got myself into a bad situation, won’t do that again”, are generally more common. They don’t have to be absolute heart wrenching tragedies, but they are a collection of singular negative moments that inform your life. While positive moments do too, they aren’t often single memories because since the results of these actions are positive, you tend to repeat them, making those memories less unique. Sure your first time having sex is a positive memorable moment, but do you remember the 17th time you got laid? Of course not. But you remember that time your dad said “don’t stare at people with a physical deformity” because you didn’t keep repeating that mistake.it’s comparing a singular memory that teaches you what isn’t permissible to a positive memory that becomes a repeated learned behavior. Both happen.
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>>56625247
None if they're going to have complete dogshit designs like Eleki and Drago
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>>56673411
drago is dog doo true but I like eleki...
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Fuck pokephiles and fuck pokemon goddesses



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