What is Pokémon Sleep?Pokémon Sleep is a sleep tracking app that utilizes your smartphone and/or the Pokémon Go Plus + device to record data as you sleep. In doing so, you'll be able to meet a variety of Pokémon and fill out your Sleep Style Dex.Be sure to post your Research ID so that you can add and share candy with fellow Anons. We are currently locked at 50 friends.FAQ:>How do Shinies work?If you encounter a shiny Pokémon, you only need to feed it a single Poké Biscuit to befriend it.>What should I spend my diamonds on?Expanding your ingredient pockets, item pockets and Pokémon box. Long term you’ll want to max out ingredient pockets, only get half of max for items and max 100 for Pokémon.>When should I use my items?When you have a good grasp of the game mechanics. You may want to save up Recovery Incenses for event missions.>What should I spend my sleep points on?Poké Biscuits first or if you’re a premium user: Main and Subskill seeds and Great Biscuits.>Can I play this game if there's a lot of noise where I sleep?The game tracks sleep based on motion only; sound has no impact.>A Pokémon I fed got full! Will I have to start from scratch the next time I find one?Nope! Pokémon retain the level of progress they were at the last time you fed them.>How do dream clusters work?The higher your research rank, the more you get. You may want to hold onto them as long as possible.>Official Pageshttps://www.pokemon.com/us/app/pokemon-sleep/https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/>Unofficial Pokémon Sleep Wiki[WARNING] Turbo Cancer-ridden with ads. Use at own risk.https://pks.raenonx.cc/en>Simple Candy Calculatorhttps://candy.blspnm.com**Back up your account by linking it to Google or your Apple ID. If you change phones, or factory reset, your account may be lost otherwise. At the very least copy your Support ID on the first Pokémon Sleep screen (click to reveal Support ID under menu)**prev: >>56545375
Tourist spam will likely knock us off the board again every day or two.>>56638223This image will probably get updated once they have the data settled, but it seems like Aggron and Vikavolt share similar Coffee production positions with Blastoise & Absol on Cacao. Aggron is even slower than Blastoise, so the gap is a bit wider.Luxray is also pretty similar to Victreebel if it has full Tomatoes. But if it has Tomato/Oil/Oil, it actually ends up topping the chart for Oil.
I'm gonna send cyndaquil evo line photos until I get bored
>>56639040>5 star Typhlosion sleep>Atop-Girl sleep
>finally decides to give me a hungry spawnt-thanks...
>>56638697I'm lacking a good tomato farmer at the moment, since my BFS Victreebel is Tomatoes/Potatoes/Leeks.So I'm hopefully I can get a really good AAA, AAB, or AAC Shinx.I didn't get to see a single Shinx last week though, but I've been seeing too many Drifloon when they surprised us with that.Popped a Shinx incense last night but this morning's spawn was A/B/C with an unsuitable subskill spread.
>>56640716That's actually why I decided to train up a Potato/Milk/Milk Sprigatito that I thought I would never use because I already had a Blastoise. I figured since even though my Blastoise has full Milk, it doesn't actually have any ingredient subskills or nature that actually make it good at gathering. On top of that, I'm still aiming for a Milk/Cacao/Cacao Blastoise, so I would lose Milk production there as well.
I've used up far too many biscuits this month already...
>>56643250Keep at it, you'll get the one!
Is this one good for a Gardevoir?
has anyone gotten a good Grubbin yet?
>>56643501I got this amazing specimen.
>>56643450It would barely make for a decent Gardevoir. Basically the only thing it has going for it is Skill Trigger M, so it would actually probably be better off as a Gallade.
>>56643501I evolved mine immediately, don't have enough candies to evolve & lack a stone but this is going to be my permanent coffee farmer
>>56643501nothing here. once the event is over or at the end of this month, i'll just have to invest in what i have
>>56643501I got this one, from previous thread.It has the two most important ingredient finding boosts, plus BFS as an added bonus, and most importantly it's mono-coffee.However, the nature is speed hindering, but when I checked this through Raenonx the impact wasn't so severe. The high reliability of ingredient finding means it gathers like 100 coffee a day at level 60 (with my E4E Wiggly helping it).Theoretically using a nature mint to change it to a Rash nature (where the main skill does not matter), it only increases its contributions by about 8%.Will be amazing for the next island that's presumed to be Bug / Poison / Dragon, but since I haven't hit friendship level 10 on Grubbin yet, I'll hold out if I find an actually perfect one.It's actually pretty wild that I rolled four gold subskills when it only has friendship level 5.
>>56644065Sadly is a male raltsWhich skills should I be looking for a good Garde?
>>56645206Gardevoir wants Skill Trigger M by level 25. Besides that, Skill Trigger S, Helping Speed M, Helping Bonus, or Skill Level Up M. And on top of that, you want its nature to be Main Skill up or to a lesser degree, Helping Speed up. There are a lot of combinations, but the most important parts are Skill Trigger M and the nature.Gallade's main skill isn't that good, so its main use is as a berry farmer substitute with BFS and Helping Speeds.
>>56645206You want max skill trigger rate, so Skill Trigger M + Skill Trigger S + Careful or Sassy nature. Having two out of three works, with the preference towards M+Nature over M+S (unless the nature boosts helping speed without dropping skill chance)Helping Speed S/M/Bonus is an added bonus that bolsters the above but not as much.Also, Gardevoir has access to Corn and Leeks, both are worth looking for but aren't essential to its role as an E4E user.BFS on a Gardevoir would also be very nice to have, particularly for Lapis Lakeside.Naturally you want the juiciest Skill Trigger S+M subskills to be the earliest unlocks, but having one at 50 is viable too.This is what happened with my Shiny Wigglytuff; Careful Nature, Helping Bonus @ 10, Skill Trigger S @ 25, Skill Trigger M @ 50.It took a while to get to 50, but the payoff was enormous.
>>56645457>but the most important parts are Skill Trigger M and the natureLet's go over some numbers.Skill Trigger M boosts base skill trigger rate by 1.36xSkill Trigger S is 1.18xSkill boosting nature is 1.2x (hindering is 0.8x)Helping Speed M boosts base helping speed by 0.86x (lower is better)Helping Speed S is 0.93xSpeed boosting nature is 0.9x (hindering is 1.1x)Right this moment I'm unclear if these stack additively or multiplicatively, but the key point is that the effects of helping speed boosts are far less significant than skill trigger boosts.A Gardevoir at level 50 is assessed to trigger about 3 times a day baseline, 6 times a day with max skill trigger rate (M+S+Nature), 7 times if it also has Helping Speed M.Conversely, a Gardevoir with max helping speed (M+S+Bonus+Nature) triggers 5 times a day, but so does a Gardevoir with Skill Trigger M only.Pic related is a little off due to how helping bonus affects the whole team, but you can see the relative effects of each.
>>56645545>>56645457>>56645815Which of these should I invest and which should be turned to candy? Doubt I'm ever going to find better.
>>56645206One other thing I'd suggest on a healer is inventory. My garde for example has a whopping 52 inventory, and I've LITERALLY never gone to bed with it having a clear inventory and woke up with it sneaky snacking. Having a high inventory while sleeping overnight with a healer can help guarantee getting a trigger or even a double on wakeup so you can start the day with your pokemon above 100% early. I can count on one hand the number of times I've woken up and DIDN'T have a trigger on garde.
>>56645930Really nice sub skills and nature.
>>56645884You should be able to punch them into Raenonx yourself.At a glance though>1. SassyOnly gets one skill trigger boost, can go very fast with a subskill seed but probably not worth it.>2. HardyUnremarkable>3. CalmHas good ingredient spread and has near-maximum skill trigger rate, and a helping speed boost to counteract its speed hindering nature. This is worth considering, and has max skill trigger rate to look forward to at 75 if you take it that far.Benefits from a subskill seed for added speed boost but not strictly necessary>4. GentleNeeds a subskill seed to realise its potential, the Calm one outshines it>5. Calm (2nd)Can go a bit faster than the other Calm one, but won't trigger as often. The payoff is delayed too.The RP 424 Calm Ralts there is a solid pick, in spite of the helping speed penalty. You have a shot at perfecting it too if nature mints are introduced.
>>56645930A truly superb Gardevoir, would be proud.As you say, Inventory Up L does wonders for skill specialists. I have an Entei that enjoys it and it helps to ensure at least 1 or perhaps 2 skill triggers by morning.My Shiny Wiggly has the issue that it unlocks BFS at 75, but has no inventory boosts until level 100. It will slightly diminish how often it triggers since it'll hit carry limit more quickly, but it's not going to matter so much when max skill trigger rate doing its wonders.Wiggly and Entei in pic related.Bewear is also there as because this was an example of how inventory subskills matter for BFS on ingredient or skill specialists.
>>56638223I'm leaning towards investing in the mild one and trashing the quiet one
>>56645884From best to worst:Sassy, Gentle, Both calms, then hardyHelping bonus + helping speed M will go ham
>>56647423but it will have less activations
>>56647598Raenonx has the Sassy one winning 5.94 per day vs 5.55Not to mention Helping Bonus making your entire team faster
>>56647275>>56647275Mild one wins out of the 3
Keep debating whether to give my Gardevoir skill seeds, but it manages to keep my team at around 80 or above. Also when it gets to 60, that'll probably be the first time I unlock leeks.
>>56647876Anon, the only way that Garde could be better is if it had a skill boosting nature.
>>56648067I mean whether it would actually improve my Garde's performance. Obviously more is better, but I may not even need to spend those seeds.
Can I just lock my phone while I sleep yet or do I need it to be on all night still?
>>5664787680 or above could easily be 100 or above if you give it 3 main skill seeds
>>56648198Your phone needs to have the game active so that it actively tracks through the duration. But it will automatically shut off the screen so that it doesn't generate much heat while you're actually sleeping.If you don't want your phone on at all, then you can use a Go Plus+ or now select smart watches to track instead.
>>56648175If you leave them at high enough energy, you can take Garde out before going to bed and have another mon farming at max efficiency during the whole night, it's a pretty good ROI imo. Healing more at once also protects you from the days where it won't trigger as much due to bad luck.
>>56648528>Cheapest local used go plus+ is $40Out of my range for this for now. Maybe someday.
>>56648198I lock my screen and it works.
Help me pick a grubbin, frens>>56638223A skeledirge with all apples is really that good?
>>56650145i'd keep looking anon
>>56650145Ingredient pokemon get most of their power out of ingredient quantities, but are balanced by only being able to actually get those ingredients about 20% of the time. This is why Ingredient Finder and natures are so important for them. But because Skeledirge is so slow and the ingredient power for Apples is so low, it gets away a much higher ingredient rate. Aggron is pretty similar in this regard.
>When you sleep over 12 hours the clock rolls over back to 0This game wasn't made to handle my hypersomnia
>>56650145keep looking but save the second one- it might be the best you getI'm about to just use aggron as my coffee pokemon, these grubs are cursed
>>56650145It's good if you want an apple farmer. It's the best one. Just gotta get lucky with subskills & nature tho
>Not a single skill trigger all dayIt's so over...
>no good grubbin>no good shinx>no good aron>good sleep is this week>barely any progress, still great 3 on powerplant>didn't even make master 1 last weekI am suffering
>>56653737the first few days of each week on ogpp are sparse, and by the time you have enough power to get a bunch of spawns you can get like steelix instead>tfw saw a steelix and i still haven't seen an onix
People who are using max investment Vaporeons, would you say they are worth it? I have a Helping Bonus + Skill Trigger M one that should proc around 7 times a day according to raenonx. If I were to give it all my skill seeds I could push it to Slv6, which means almost 150 ingredients a day. Sure they are all random but I figure I'm likely to stock a ton of tails, leeks and coffee this way, right? It still feels hella expensive, especially since I can't even make the best coffee dishes without a GCT, and currently I'm doing ok-ish in regards to other dishes. >>56653781To be fair you can't see Onix in ogpp anyway.
>>56655099a steelix week one ogpp when I've spent multiple weeks at taupe is still a little perturbingalso i used a skill level up m vaporeon with bfs during suicune weeks that had bonus trigger rate, seemed pretty good. i guess trigger m with skill seeds would be similar. i don't know about using one for ogpp though, you're losing a lot by not going for the favoured berry ingredient pokemon
>>56655099Vaporeon is definitely worth it, I was able to farm enough coffee off Vaporeon during the week alone to make the new coffee dishes, which I never would have done without extreme strength loss
>>56650140Ive tried that and it drains my battery badly.
>>56656098You don't leave it plugged in?my phone is old maybe that's why I have to do so
I got my pot to 27 now and I been struggling to fill it up now. Am I stuck using an ingredient team to make ends meet?
>>56657171yes. Either use an ingredient team or don't, halfway doesn't work very well. Berries teams are pretty good by themselves
>>56657171Early on in the game, the pot is a struggle just because you probably don't have your level 30 ingredient slots unlocked. Usually 2 ingredient types is enough to make meals and using a Blastoise/Venusar/Charizard is key since their Ingredient Magnet triggers can help you fill in the gaps. Butterfree can also help since it has the same skill.>>56657191Huh? Mixed teams work quite well. As long as you're able to fill your pot and make a decent meal every time, that's basically maximizing your power.
>>56638223Is this worth fully investing in?
>>56657555Not a chance. Ingredient finder boosts come too late, and it's not mono-coffee.
>>56655099I like Vaporeon for when I have 3 good berry mons I want to use and can't complete a good dish with 1 more mon or alternating between 2. For both Curries and Salads, the top 2 dishes with the current pot cap use 8 different ingredients, so about half of Vaporeon's ingredients will contribute to one of them. If you lower your standards a bit to include Slowpoke Curry and Calm Mind Salad, then you have 10 different ingredients you can make use of. For Salads you could also include Cross Chop Salad and Slowpoke Salad, but those both use the same ingredients from Greengrass Salad, so you're likely better off just making the stronger one instead.
This a good Grubbin? Kinda wish it was mono coffee but hype that I got a shiny
>>56657692It has bfs though
>>56658242Is this Grubbin in the room with us right now?
>>56658242forgot image
Shows why he's an MVP
>>56658246BFS means very little to non-berry pokemon. And bug berries are bad anyways.
Mid week check in, where are y'all sitting at currentlyJust a couple hours after lunch myself
What should I do with this eevee? I already have a decent glaceon and don't really need an umbreon. I'm thinking jolteon for OGPP?
>>56659062right now i'm at ultra 1. 553,534 strength.
>>56659062I always eat Breakfast at 11:50am, Lunch at 5:50pm, and dinner 5-10mins before I go to bed at 11pm
>>56658270It's actually pretty good, it would be REALLY good if it had coffee, coffee, mushroom shame about the skill triggerI dunno I would probably use it on a whim because shiny vikavolt is cool, but I don't make the best decisions
>>56658246>>56658412BFS is fine if the ingredient specialist and still do its proper job.These are some BFS ingredient specialists I've invested in, from best to worst.The Quagsire ended up being a disappointment because it truly needs all of the ingredient finding boosts it can but, but I justified it as "I'm still looking for a mono-mushroom specialist".The Gengar has been exceptional at OGSS in both how many berries it gathers, and how much strength mushrooms adds to all my dishes.The Victreebel is similarly great at Lapis Lakeside, or for making Dream Eater Butter Curries, though its ingredient finding is sometimes a little lacking as it only Ingredient Finder M.The Charizard is pretty good in a similar capacity, but mostly as an Entei team participant.
>>56659062I'm at 636k (Ultra 2) shortly before bed time.Since it's the full moon event and I've got mons I want to level up faster, I'll be switching teams for bedtime with two helpers having Sleep EXP Bonus.The sooner I can get my Gengar and Victreebel to 60, the better.
>>56660595Sure BFS is good, but it's hardly even a consideration in what makes you use an ingredient pokemon in the first place. You really need Ingredient Finder M so that it can do what it's supposed to do. And most ingredient pokemon are on the slower side too, so using them as berry farming substitutes doesn't always work out. I used to think that was a good idea, but after using a couple with just BFS, they leave a lot to be desired.
>>56659062Couple hours before dinner.
Did I finally found a good Cyndaquil?
>>56662276yup. you only need bfs really for berry specialists
Think I should do it?
>>56663132depends on if you see yourself using aggron as a coffee pokemon past level 59. Because it will become much worse at it at that point.
Here are all my non-berry BFS mons that I have invested in>GolemThis one sucks. I already have plenty of good strong mons to replace it completely in Taupe, so now I'm stuck with a Golem that is pretty bad at finding potatoes and beans, but also whose strength is not relevant.>VictreebelAt the moment a really strong mon. The combination of BFS and HB make it a great mon for Lapis, which I desperately need since I have only one BFS Meganium with nothing else going for it. However it is atrocious at finding Ingredients, so I suspect it will eventually face the same fate as Golem.>CharizardVery good. It's so absurdly fast that it still manages to find all the ingredients I need no problem. Right now on my Taupe team, it scores 94% as much as my BFS Typhlosion who is at the same level. >TogekissSuper fun mon, it's hard to rank it using Raenonx because the site doesn't attribute a strength value to Metronome, but in practice the results have been really great (though it is to be expected since it's so invested).>ArcanineMy MVP, Raenonx's auto team maker recommends it on every area because it's so good. Its skill scales as I get better teams too.tl;drOn ingredient mons, BFS is not worth it unless it has a godly nature and skill spread alongside it, it's better to focus on ingredient finders so you can actually get what you need. On skill mons it's usually good but will always be at a risk of being powercrept as your team gets stronger.
I need more Shinx candy.
>>56663372Get to Master 1, an event mission rewards 30 candy.
>>56663673That's not nearly enough.
>>56663741It should be enough to get to level 30, or very near it.
>>56662276yesGood subskills, good nature, unfortunate ingredient rolls. 7/10
>>56665026What's so bad about the ingredients? IMO quantity matters a lot more unless you have something like Leeks or Corn.
>>5666396130? I need 60 for that delicious oil
>>56665109Oh, in that case you need like 1915 candies or 478 sleep sessions, good luck with that lol
>>56659901Feeling sleepy a bit earlier tonight.Goodnight, /zzz/.
Even with the disastrous nature this has got to be worth using right? Dream skill spread.
>>56665772id use it. i'm no pro with a raenonx at the ready, but i think it would be fine. I have one almost like it and I haven't seen a shuppet in months after that. probably hold off the investment until end of this month.might get some ghost halloween event.
>>56665026You people will treat the most irrelevant shit as a negative, literally who cares if a BFS helping speed Typhlosion drops A or B ingredients?
>>56665772Extremely good mon, nature is irrelevant since its main skill is kinda shit, you can just leave it and never collect anything if you don't want it dropping ingredients.
>>56665772Obviously. As long as it's just Ingredient S or nature, that usually isn't enough to cause much considerable impact to its berry capabilities.
>>56665074>>56665026>>56665856I pretty much never pay attention to what ingredients my berry farmers get. Because they produce so little Ingredients it doesn't matter too much. I only care if it has bfs or not
>>56666106Berry and skill Pokemon can produce a non-insignificant number of ingredients, so they're not completely worthless. Though it's also not worth worrying too much about either, but they can make good supplemental sources.
>>56638223Anyone else having a weird bug where your snorlax power gets reset to something earlier in the day?
>>56667190i’ve sometimes seen snorlax just not stop eating berries that aren’t actually there with the power still going up, and that gets reset
>>56667251I've dropped from master 7 to master 6 then to master 5
Which croc should I keep?
>>56667693Unfortunately neither. You really need Ingredient Finder M at 10 or 25. As they are, they're just going to pick up berries most of the time, and Fuecoco isn't fast enough to make due with just BFS.
This fella ideal for coffee?I just wish it had a ing+ nature, but I guess it's alright like this too?
>>56670982That's still extremely good, you just have a delayed payoff; albeit a handsome one.
>>56670982Really the only thing an ingredient pokemon needs to be functional is Ingredient Finder M and your preferred spread. Practically everything else is just a bonus.
>>56638223Imagine you dies suddenly and people who need to go through your stuff find this. Think about it. This is how people think of you.
>>56665856>>56666106I'm the guy who posted that. The Typhlosion is great, I meant to reply to the Aron guy>>56663132 about the unfortunate ingredient roll
>>56672848What did he mean by this
>>56670982Aggron already has an insanely high ingredient ratio so it should be good, anon. Congrats.>>56673307Ah, ok then, sorry for assuming you were a fucking idiot, anon.>>56672848Wrong thread?
>Had Dedenne on overnight for EXP bonus>Wake up to no skill procs>Breakfast crits anywayGo figure
Are there any berry or skill Pokemon that have a strongly preferred ingredient spread? It's usually not much of a factor, but there are times where it made a big difference because of their level 30 ingredient.
>>56676556Slowbro and Ditto for Slowpoke tails are the only ones. Maybe Ralts with corn
>>56676556Raichu having eggs on 60 is surprisingly helpful, apple may be preferable to ginger as a shocking number of things already gather ginger.Ninetales with corn on 30/60 is highly preferable.Primeape gets Mushrooms on 30/60 but the quantities are very slow, so you might prefer mono-sausages.Meganium is a rare case of having ingredient slots above 2x on 30 or 4x on 60. It can get 3x Honey at 30, 5x Honey at 60, but also has 4x cacao and 3x leeks on 60 giving it surprisingly good options.There are also a small number of Chikorita early on that had leeks at 30 by mistake. These are no longer available, but they're letting players keep these if they got one.Typhlosion has spicy herbs at 30, oil at 60. These can both be preferable to ginger which is too prolific.Feraligatr by comparison to the Johto starters, only gets Sausages and Oil. Oil is higher value and a useful ingredient anyway.Steelix I'd argue you probably want sausages and potatoes on 30/60, as you're likely to run it at OGPP where Luxray can be a tomato farmer in its stead.Houndoom is another case of having 3x available at 30, for ginger. Fiery herbs might still be preferable, it can also get leeks at 60.Altaria can get 3x beans at 30, 5x apples at 60. You may however prefer it to exclusively gather eggs.Banette can get oil / ginger / mushrooms, best spread would probably be oil / oil / mushrooms.Walrein can get 3x sausages at 30, ginger at 60 for some reason.A good Tyranitar should have you covered for ginger at Snowdrop anyway for mono-oil or oil + sausages may be the preference. Besides, Walrein has Ingredient Magnet S.Ginger in general is too prevalent particularly with anything you'd run at Taupe Hollow. It's highly likely to end up being a filler ingredient.
>>56676556I'm not going to discount a berry or skill pokemon because it doesn't have the right spread, but given the choice, being able to get above 2x ingredients at 30 is almost always good. And at level 60, a handful of pokemon have access to some rarer ingredients that would be worth losing out on ingredient quantities for (mostly Leeks).Though there is also the opposite situation for E4E or Charge Strength Skill pokemon in particular, where you might not want their inventory packed with ingredients before they can bank double skill triggers. Most notably Gardevoir can reduce its potential ingredient quantities by getting Apples(1x)/Corn(1x)/Leeks(2x).>>56677146You left out a few:Golduck can get 4x Apples at 30, 6x Apples at 60. Though given its limited inventory, you probably don't want 6x Apples over 4x Cacao.Arcanine can get 3x Sausages at 30, 5x Milk at 60.Ampharos can get 3x Eggs at 30.Drifblim can get 3x Oil at 30.
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>>56677835The E4E scenario you describe there is my Shiny Wiggly to a tee.1x Honey / 2x Oil / 2x Cacao, with Careful Nature (Skill Up / Ingredient Down).This does therefore slow down its inventory filling up.It gets BFS at 75, though, which'll have a significant counter-effect.Also yeah my prior post was focusing just on the berry specialists, didn't get to skill specialists.The Golduck one is an interesting one, that it gets such a large volume of ingredients in one helping. The nature of running one though means you're checking it super frequently though.
Leaks are ramping up again, will /zzz/ survive overnight?Probably not.
>mono coffee grubbin with good skills>jolly>mono coffee grubbin with good skills>adamant>abc grubbin with shit skills>rashi'm going to kms
>>56683304I wish you luck with finding a Grubbin.You reminded me that I woke up to this, this morning.
>>56683432this game is so unforgiving with encounters
>>56683432For whatever reason I only just now realized that Wooper is an axolotl.
>shiny clefairy on top of snorlax>first grubbin in 2 weeks and it's hungryI slept like shit but apparently that attracted good 'mons so that was nice
Had my first dedenne encounter. Why is it 16 energy holy shit
>>56685696You mean friendship points?Yeah that's a trend for single-stagers for whatever reason. Stuff like Heracross, Absol, Kangaskhan, Comfey, Cramorant.Dedenne is arguably the best due to its main skill though. You'll be cooking craploads of extra tasty dishes if you find a perfect one and stuff it with skill seeds.
>>56684820anon... how?
Goodnight, /zzz/.Hope you are making good progress this fine week.
Fucking crash when I had it all prepared and it's past 4:00
Surprisingly similar to the other one I got last week and still less than ideal ingredient spread.
Neat.sleep type: dozingnew skill too.
>>56687353Ok, but when are they going to let me evolve that Pikachu into an awesome Raichu with a hat?
>>56687353Hmm... Technically this would be a very strongly scaling skill.
>>56687634Interesting
Wait, does this mean it might be an entirely different Pikachu?
>>56687703Sounds like it's the same overall, just an aesthetic difference.>>56687475lol, lmao even
>>56687746I can dream, okay?
>>56687340Forgot my image...
>>56687703it's got a new hat!
>Play for less than two weeks>Find a shiny already>It's Quaxly and I almost missed it because it looks identical
>>56689648Is this worth investing into at all? Doesn't seem like anything special.
>>56689798If you were decently progressed, I would tell you to ignore it. But given how early you are in the game, just its main skill will probably make it pretty useful.Ideally, an ingredient pokemon (you can tell its "class" in the top right) would want an Ingredient Finder ability as one of its first 2 slots. Also for the duck you really want it to be able to gather Leeks at level 30 and/or 60 since it's currently the only one capable of gathering them in decent amounts.
>>56689648I always feed hungry pokemon at least one biscuit in case I miss the sparkles partially for that reason. But it's usually a good thing to do in general anyway, shiny or not.
>>56689852I've got better users of the main skill already, right now what I need the most are ingredients and unfortunately he doesn't provide me with anything I am aiming for in that regard either.It's a nice find though, especially this early on. Wish my first shiny was more recognizable though, because I wasn't even sure if the sparkles were from shinyness or something hungry mons always do that I just never paid attention to.>>56689895I usually do too but I could care less for Quaxly tbqh. Good thing my sleepy brain questioned "do all sleepy pokemon have these sparkles?" because otherwise I might have missed it
>>56689904*hungry pokemon
>>56687703Some of us which have the original ome shall know after the update. I honestly think it will be a new form of Pikachu
>>56687703By different, do you mean that it might have a different main skill, or a different speciality?The news made clear that you can get last year's Halloween Pikachu with the orange-band grey hat too.
Another shiny so soon, right after yesterday's Wooper.The shiny Aron was a bit of a let down compared to this non-shiny I also befriended. It's the perfect sausage-mon.
Is this cruel joke worth using?Mints soon, r-right?
>>56691974Its nature describes you.
Got my hopes up with the adamant nature. But I swear over half of my friendship 10+ Pokemon get Research EXP.
Hows my luxray look?
>>56695408Debatably better than mine overall for sheer ingredients.
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>>56695408It's superb, congrats.At 60 it'll gather an equal number of tomatoes and oils.>>56697445Not so much, if the subskills were reversed it'd be worth it.
>>56695408looks great
I thought they would extend the Halloween event to the Power Plant, but it's only on Greengrass
>>56638223Which one should I keep?
>>56701371Definitely the Docile one. Mono-Coffee would be best, but getting to 60 would take a long time anyway. Keeping that one at 50-59 would get you lots of coffee for a long while.
I can't believe I Crit 6 times this week.Pretty lucky week for me.No more meals now, time to stock up Ingredients and Cooking Power for Monday.
3678-9167-7123Haven't been playing for terribly wrong but I research every night.
>>56689648Well this one was harder to miss And it's actually usable
>>56702458I have had 12-20 (22-30) crit chance since monday dinner and I'm still waiting for it to hit
>>56701371I'd keep looking. The docile one could be pretty good, but it'll be a really long time until it can pick up ingredients at any decent rate. But if you can get to 50 and give it a Subskill seed, those skills are pretty good.
>Mono ingredient Shinx>With a perfect Skill-mon subkill and nature>Ingredient-down natureWhy
>>56701371Helping bonus at 25 is elite, ing finder comes a bit later but that's fine. I'd level it up to 30 and keep it as my permanent coffee farmer.
>>56704797obviously getting it to 50 would be great. But at lvl 60 you unlock a different ingredient roll. It would be a temporarily good coffee farmer, albeit for a long time if you don't level it up.
>>56703946Not an ideal ingredient spread, unless you're really hurting for oil.
>>56638223Is Rhyperior in?
>>56706335no
Kinda funny how I’ve been at 40% all week and I haven’t gotten a proc. What a scam. Just take me to sunday already
>>56706583That'd be like getting tails on a dozen consecutive coin flips, highly, highly improbable.
Reminder that there's no rush to farm coffee. Hold out for a coffee Pokemon that you're going to use long term. >ingredient nature up>ingredient finder S or M>inventory skills>helping speed skills>coffee at LEAST twiceif it doesn't have most of these aspects, DO NOT INVEST! If it has coffee, not coffee, coffee, DO NOT INVEST! Getting to level 60 is incredibly hard!
>>56707353>long term*till the next ingredient gets released and coffee is useless, and mono coffee becomes shit
>>56707626why has this ever happened? oh right, never
>>56707353I have >>56644707 right now, but I'm holding out for potentially better as this one has a helping speed hindering nature, and only the first couple skills are worth it.No inventory boosts, either.It's more than viable actually, BFS places it as a solid addition to a future bug island, and it's by far my current best prospect for gathering coffee.
>>56707649That anon argues corn is crap because it got dethroned, but this game isn't a marathon, it isn't even a sprint.
>>56707736makes no sense since korma curry, scones and green grass salad are all infinitely more attainable than the new coffee recipes, which I couldn't even make with a good camp ticket without a cooking pot pokemon to make the pot bigger!>>56707724Yeah it's definitely pretty good right off the bat, which I feel matters more than whatever you get after level 50. Unfortunately all of my mono coffee grubbins have been shit
i'm debating whether to evolve this pikachu and replacing my raichuit has more speed but it's not all that great I think
>>56707784It technically is marginally faster, but it doesn't deliver much more strength.This wouldn't be course-correction, this would be spending a thunder stone and candies that you don't need to, so stick with the current careful one.However, keep the Timid one handy just in case nature mints become available. An Adamant mint or Naughty mint would work wonders on it. Level it up and then use the mint, however so you can maximise the worth of your Pikachu candies.
>>56707736yeah this game is beyond a marathon, which is why wanting to hitch yourself to a single ingredient is beyond dumb. doing so is playing the game as a sprint. mono coffee is good now, but it's not going to be in the future and you know it
>>56707784You can always just run both. I'm running two on my OGPP team because they are the strongest options I have, even if one is lv50 and the other lv30.
>>56708636You can only plan for the near future or the next tier. I wouldn't necessarily call that the "sprint" in a marathon vs sprint / jog / stroll comparison. Goals will change over time as you progress through tiers.A rough outline of ingredient / meal tiers would look like this:>61% - coffee meals>35-48% - corn, mushroom, leek meals>25-35% - slowpoke tail, cacao, herb mealsObviously it's not that straight forward, but there should be an observable pattern of which ingredients become accessible or more readily available, and how they progress into the next tier.There are advantages and disadvantages to mono and varied ingredient specialists.Mono usually wins on reliability and quantity of a key ingredient.Varied usually wins on flexibility, sometimes on quantity if a weaker ingredient (e.g. honey or apples) is on slot 2 or 3 as B or CGrubbin family at the moment is the only mono-coffee ingredient specialist available (coffee is also exclusive to ingredient specialists).The other ingredients it can gather are mushrooms, and honey.Vikavolt is actually the best mushroom gatherer too, producing virtually as many as Quagsire whilst also providing coffee.An A/A/A Vikavolt is best for "Defiant" Coffee-Dressed Salad, which needs 28 coffee, and the sausages, oil, and potatoes it cannot gather.A/A/C is best for "Early Bird" Coffee Jelly, which needs coffee, honey, and milk. Although this is only a 35% bonus recipe, this would make it pretty easy to make regularly but only at level 60.Note that there are no Pokémon that can gather both Milk and Honey.An A/A/B Vikavolt is best for "Hidden Power" Perk-Up Stew, which needs 16 coffee, 23 mushroom, 25 tomato, 28 beans. A Dugtrio can gather the tomatoes and beans with A/A/C, however Dugtrio is slow and far from the best tomato gather.Something that bears repeating is that you may get something that is perfect for one ingredient, therefore changing what you need out of other Pokémon. Adaptability matters.
>>56708262>gee they released a new recipe that doesn't use coffee!>it uses ingredient 1, ingredient 2, ingredient 3>guess I'll bring out my pokemon that gathers ingredient 1, another that harvests ingredient 2, etc>oh look, they released a new recipe that doesn't use ingredient 1, 2, or 3!>guess I'll use my pokemon that harvests ingredient 4, another that harvests ingredient 5, etc>oh look, they released another coffee recipe!>guess I'll use my mono coffee vikavolt for this one!what about that is a sprint?
>>56638223ZZZ?
About to be 20 friendship soon. And not the slightest peek of Skill Trigger M in the first slots.
>>56707353Got it this morning. now I just play the long game
>>56710259You could get it to 30 pretty quickly, but it will probably be at least 3-4 months to get to 60 even if you pump all you can into it. Luckily that'll be a pretty safe investment and constant source of ingredients, even just as filler.
>all ingredient pokemon get berry finder>all berry pokemon get ingredient finder>all skill pokemon get anything but skill triggerI hate this game.
>>56706335strange there's not much ground types. been holding on to my ground candy and haven't seen anything worth investing.
what candy do you guys send out for the friend research thing?I always send the new pokemon candy.
>>56714976Typically it goes: Shiny > New > Rare (single-stage) > Area-unique species > Generally useful species > Didn't get anythingAlso I realized that all that hat Pikachu are still Pikachu, so it actually makes sense to have a high friendship level with both Pichu and Pikachu.
>>56715640>shiny at the topI would feel like a dick....
>>56714966My hope is that for the final island we get gible/gabite as ground types berry mons, with gabite outperforming marowak after ribbons, and we get garchomp as a dragon berry mon
>>56716698>final islandthere's going to be greengrass 2.0 with rotating berries
>>56643450Generally I avoid skill level up as a sub skill because it’s the only one that can be completely replaced by an item. It’s good for throwaway temps during events though. Healers mesh with any team and preferentially they should have in priority:Helping bonusSkill triggerHelping speedEverything else is mehBerry finding isn’t bad if you can meet at least 2 of those 3 criteria. Inventory is basically useless. My Gardevoir has it and I wish another skill trigger was there but I got sick of farming.
>>56714976New>Useful>RareUseful would include any of the 3 starters from any gen, Eevee, ect. Rare would be Kangashkan, Legendaries, Ditto
The sheep was too heavy for the balloon...
bros I made it... master 1....
>>56718850Congrats.
I'm back to Greengrass next week, to get my area bonus up for the upcoming Halloween event (Oct 28th to Nov 4th)Since Greengrass rolls random berries, how are you doing for each type of berry?This is what my mine's like:>Ready TypesElectric (2 BFS Raichu, BFS Dedenne)Fire (Entei team with BFS Typhlosion, BFS Ninetales, BFS Charizard)Water (BFS Feraligatr, BFS Blastoise, BFS Quagsire)Ghost (BFS Gengar)Grass (BFS Meganium, BFS Victreebel)Dark (BFS Tyranitar)Fighting (BFS Mono-Corn Bewear)Ice (BFS Walrein)Normal (BFS Raticate, BFS Kangaskhan)>Could be Readied TypesBug (BFS Mono-Coffee Grubbin)>Not Readied TypesPoison, Ground, Flying, Rock, Dragon, Steel, FairyWith 9 types ready, I'm unlikely to get a Greengrass roll I can't work with.I'm also extra ready for the fixed ghost berries during the Halloween event, but my BFS Gengar is literally the only ghost I have worth using.
AYO THESE NIGGAS SNOOZING
>>56720025>NormalBad BFS Vigoroth>FireTyplosion and Ninetales (no BFS)>WaterBFS Feraligatr and good non BFS Feraligatr>ElectricBFS Raichu and other spare pikachu/pichus I could raise>GrassBFS Meganium>IceBFS Walrein>FightingNothing>PoisonNothing>GroundNothing>FlyingDecent no BFS Dodrio>PsychicNothing>BugBad BFS Butterfree>RockNothing>GhostBFS Gengar>DragonBFS Dragonair that takes forever to level up>DarkBFS Tyranitar + BFS Sprigatito I could raise>SteelNothing>FairyBFS HB Cleffa with -Speed +Ingredient nature FUCK EVERYTHING REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>56714976I send new and rarest things first. Then I'll do useful like pichu, garde, etc Depending on how rare it is I'll send rare first.
No ingredient up, is this usable?
>>56721021no, while aggron's ingredient rate is better than most ingredient pokemon, it still needs at least one ingredient finder or ingredient nature up
>>56721021Aggron is pretty slow, but it's as fast as a Steelix without the hassle of befriending one or an Onix and getting good rolls on it. Yours has all mixed ingredients anyways, so it wouldn't be particularly helpful for making specific recipes in the first place. So you could train it up so long as you know that its niche is as a backup Steel berry farmer over an actual ingredient producer.
>>56721021Steel type berries are pretty strong, you'd be running this as a berry specialist with varied ingredients as a side-hustle.Apparently, with a subskill seed to boost to Helping Speed M, this actually contributes more strength on OGPP (or with favourite steel berries) than running it as an ingredient specialist with maximum ingredient rates.That's provided it reaches level 50, though.It doesn't beat a BFS Raichu when it comes to strength contributions or berry gathering, however.3 x 107 (lv 60 Grepa) is more than 2 x 142 (lv 60 Belue), before accounting for Raichu's superior helping speed.
how do i dozmax?
>>56720025I keep a tierlist of how good I am for each type and require a certain sum for the 3 berries or else I reroll. Will probably go for at least a 7 or 8 this time, unless it has good synergy with whatever dish I roll as well.
ugh
>>56722837You've managed to get 4 dragons already?
>>56723194It's not how many I have, but how good they are as well as the strong base power of dragon berries in general. You only have 5 team slots and 1 of them is usually taken by an E4E mon, so having 2 good mons for one berry type is plenty.
>>56720025My only bfs types currently are grass, water, fire, electric, bug, normal, fighting and ice. Not too worried about dragon or poison at the moment, so really I'm just worried about (in order of prio) ghost, steel, dark, fairy, rock, flying, ground, poison, dragon
>Have everything to make the big coffee dessert finallyHere's hoping for a crit for big levels.
Hoping I roll desserts this coming week so I can try to knockout the last two new dishes
do I have time to claim the rewards from old power plant quests?usually it happens that the time shown is just to clear the quests, afterwards there's a day or two to claim
>>56724602this is my first event where I didn't finish the first week's missions, and on Tuesday I completed one from those, so they are still there even to complete, and not just claim
>>56724686So you're saying if you don't complete them on the first week, you get a second chance on the second week? That's good to know.
>>56721021bfs+hb+help speed is 99.5% of the work in getting a theoretically perfect pokemon. the other parts of your pokemon aren’t perfect, but they’re not detrimental either
>>56724831yeah I didn't know this until just this week, it's a nice feature
>>56724602Yeah, you usually have a few days after an event to actually claim the rewards. >>56724831As long as the event is still running, you can complete the missions. But once the event ends, even though you can claim the rewards, you won't make any additional progress on unfinished ones.
>>56723751Fuck you game, this would have been huge levels.Like, presumably 25.
I haven't got any Sunday crits for the previous 2 weeks.And now it's time to decide where to go for next week. The Halloween event isn't until the following week, so we have another free one to do whatever. I guess you'd probably be staying at the Power Plant anyways to try for Ghost Pokemon.
>>56725955>now its time to decide where to go for next week>posted at 4:30pm mondayyouve missed breakfast anon, your snorlax is starving
The two week power plant opening event unfortunately overlapped with the same two weeks I flew back to America for my brother’s wedding. Got the worst sleep I’ve had in the last year of playing. I only actually met my bed time three days in the whole two weeks. My apologies to the two people who unfriended my during that time. Ironically though I did alright with the nights I did log sleep. Already pushed this shinx up to a Luxray and super happy with the Aron I pulled on the last night. I’ll probably wait for a better grubbin but I’m tempted to invest in the Drifloon. It only has the one skill trigger but I’m short a good source of corn at the moment and it will be nice to have another ghost type for Halloween.How was everyone’s first few weeks at OGPP?Where are you going for the next week?Any hopes/plans for the Halloween event?
>>56726428>How was everyone’s first few weeks at OGPP?Got lots of new sleep styles, a shiny Wooper, shiny Aron, and a really great mono-coffee BFS Grubbin and mono-sausage Aron. I'm still looking for a useful Shinx, and they had the fewest spawns of all>Where are you going for the next week?Greengrass, my area bonus is still 60% so I want to up it to 65% for the Halloween event.I'm already there and rolled Yache / Bluk / Cheri berries, so my Gengar and Bewear are pulling their weight this week, but it'll otherwise be a relaxed week with a small chance to see some legendary beasts.>Any hopes/plans for the Halloween event?Gonna use a Good Camp Ticket to maximise spawns, to take advantage of the double candy rates (triple on Halloween night).With boosted Gastly spawns and chances for Gengar spawns, this could give me a lot of candies I need to get my BFS Gengar to 60 to unlock the 6x Mushrooms slot, and really boost the mushrooms it gathers.Also, hoping to get a good Mimikyu of course, but finding a good BFS Shuppet would also be nice since my Gengar is my only usable ghost right now.
>>56726428Did you miss days or did they unfriend you for having low sleep scores?
I've noticed that if I befriend multiple pokemon in the morning that they more likely than not have the same nature. Does the game only roll a set of natures at a time? example:>befriend eevee, aron, aron>all three are impishanother morning>befriend shinx, eevee, shinx>all three are adamant
>>56726428>How was everyone’s first few weeks at OGPP?Nice, got at least a decent mon of every new line except Drif>Where are you going for the next week?Still OGPP, I want to boost the area bonus as much as I can>Any hopes/plans for the Halloween event?Just hope I get a nice Mimikyu to use in OGPP
>>56727846not likely
>>56728253do you remember which ones you befriended at the same time/morning?
>>56728560i didn't put in date. but i could theoretically go through and add it... maybe. lot of dates to add thoughbut I've caught a bunch recently that aren't on that list. a shuppet and gastly from october 7th that are different natures, a mareep and a gastly from october 9th that are different, shinx and aron on october 10th are different, drifloon grubbin october 11th that are different
>>56728560>>56728705Reminds me of an idea I had:Since they won't give us mints how about the give us nature incenses instead?That combining them with the very few Pokémon incenses we have we could actually hunt more easily (still gotta pray for good sub skills).
>>56728845i don't like the idea of that. like currently you don't expect a good pokemon even if using an incense, but you'd be kind of expecting something good with a nature picked. using two incenses for no pay off would have large feels bad moments
perfect balloon acquired
>>56729155forgot image
>>56729170>no bfs>skill level up>energy recovery downcandy. nice balloon
>>56729170I'd say nearly perfect. Careful or Sassy is preferable to Gentle, but any good E4E healer will carry it.Congrats.
>>56729572>bfs on a skillmonretard alertit's nice but not necessary. Skill triggers matter most.
>>56729897it would be totally wild if bfs on a skill mon by default beat out skill trigger m s and natureoh wait it does
>>56730116It's nice to have but not important on a non berry mon
>>56730116using golduck as your example is stupid, though. People use skill pokemon for their skill triggers, golduck's ability is purely strength so of course the BFS one is going to look better on paper. Every other skill pokemon skill triggers matter the most. driftloon you're going to want as many skill triggers as possible to bulk up the final Spit Up trigger. BFS actually gets in the way of that since it fills up inventory faster.
>>56730116>no skill levelshah
>>56730174uhhhhhhhhh no, wrong. it's bad and you're a retard if you think bfs on a skill pokemon is nice. don't you know that?>>56730227>using golduck as the example is stupiduhhhhhh no, wrong, retard. the other examples look worse on paper because the skill isn't measured well by raenonx. also it's skill trigger rate is so high it gets way less berries than other examples, barring umbreon. it's literally the best possible raenonx example in the favour of skill triggers.>bfs bricks triggersdo the math on the few times you'll miss a trigger vs the amount you're gaining by getting double power, looking at max trigger gardevoir, 77.78% of the times>>56730360what did you think by default meant? yeah you're going to put main skill seeds into some skill pokemon, but not all of them
>>56729572>>56730116Shut up metafag retard.>doesn't use the right pokemon for his example>uninvested wrong pokemon at thatFucking idiot.
>>56730954>also it's skill trigger rate is so high it gets way less berries than other examples, barring umbreon. it's literally the best possible raenonx example in the favour of skill triggersno it's not, because most skills are used to indirectly affect snorlax's final strength and can't be measured the way you want. More skill triggers = better skill pokemon, simple as that>do the math on the few times you'll miss a trigger vs the amount you're gaining by getting double power, looking at max trigger gardevoir, 77.78% of the timesthat doesn't show how gardevoir keeps the rest of your party harvesting more efficiently for longer, or how Glaceon lets you stuff the cooking pot, or how Dedenne boost your crit chance. BFS means a higher chance of missing your morning double skill proc because your inventory overnight fills up twice as fast.
>>56731024>super invested right example>still gets better with bfsthis bfs..... nooooo..... it's too powerfullll. IT MUST BE STOPPEDmaybe, just maybe, i was right when, while facetiously calling anon's drifblim trash, i said it could be improved by bfs?
>>56730116That isn't drifloon. I don't give a darn if my wiggly or Garde makes a little more power from berries. I want their skills to activate as much as possible to keep my other teams members power up.
>>56731213>boosting to a level that doesn't exist yet just so berry power can edge it overyeah...
>>56731134>because most skills are used to indirectly affect snorlax's final strength and can't be measured the way you want..........THAT WAS LITERALLY MY POINTthe other skills don't show up on raenonx. look at the pictures! golduck is like 10% better with bfs ON RAENONX, both slowking and gardy are like 60% better with bfs. golduck shows the power of skill triggers the best ON RAENONX. That's why I used it. Because if you use the others, raenonx doesn't show it well. Which is what I said. And getting less berries because it's high skill trigger rate means getting double of them is less of a bonus. Which also works in max skill triggers favour. Because it shows bfs as worse, and triggers better. ON RAENONX. The site used for comparison. Which is what I said. And is true.And the higher chance of occasionally missing a sometimes inconsequential skill trigger is more than offset by double power close to 80% of the time. You don't need double proc overnight to stay above 81% energy, and you may crit the next meal without one more boost>>56731343>people mad there's no investment>people mad there's too much investmentno matter what investment shown, max skill trigger is always improved with bfs
>>56731213>Lv75Holy retard.
I don't really want to get more Pokemon space, but my box keeps bumping the limit with 20-something shinies that will never see the light of day.
the cola must be the most annoying recipe we've gotten already. First ingredient leeks when?
>>56732756It would have to be horrendously slow, have an awful gathering rate or both, like Quagsire. And according to the OP chart, it would probably barely be able to get 40 Leeks a day. I guess there's the potential for it to be a non-ingredient pokemon too.
>>56729035The true gacha experience.
Went back to Lapis this week in hopes for a good Ralts. Rather have a shot at it and also raise area bonus to 35% than going to GG.Where did you anons go?
>>56733515Went to lapis since it's going to be my first week there
>>56638223Which one? I'm leaning towards the one with honey at 60
>>56733963I wouldn't invest long term into any of them. Get the docile one to level 30 and enjoy farming coffee until a better one comes along.
>>56733515Was there a particular reason that would speak for going to GG this week? I don't think there's an event until next week
>>56734326That 65% area bonus before Halloween
>>56734326The area bonus cap only recently increased from 60% to 70%, depending on your own sleep dex goal progress.My Greengrass is still at 60% so I want to up it to 65% for better results next week. It'll then be at 70% for the next time I need to go there (such as a Christmas/Festive event).My previous weeks were spent at Lapis Lakeside and Old Gold Power Plant, which are now at 65% and 10% respectively.
Settle or keep looking?
>>56733515Snowdrop to boost my current area bonus and maybe a little farming ahead of whatever Christmas event we get in a few months.
does this game actually help you sleep better? I used it for one day and after I woke up I was bombarded with a bunch of mobile tutorial slop about berries and feeding Snorlax.it didn't feel very fun, what's the appeal?
>>56735108Very mediocre and isn't going to get you much Coffee. Keep looking.>>56735192Yes, the main way it does this is by incentivizing you to form a sleep schedule. Its gameplay is very passive, so you're not going to get much "fun" out of it besides some dopamine from checking your new pokemon's stats.
>>56733376I really hope not, damn. I know leeks are worth a lot but that 20 leek requirement is killing me and Quaquavel sucks ass>>56735192it stops me from doom scrolling. Before this app I would lie awake scrolling social media looking at posts I didn't even give a shit about. Now I put my phone down for the night and sleep a good 8 hours.
>>56735108Do you have access to OGPP? If so, keep looking.Do you have fewer than 340 sleep styles unlocked? Are you weeks, even months away from 340? Star it.
>>56735192>>56735618Same desu. The app definitely curbed my social media usage, which was mostly existential posting into the void to begin with.
had someone on my friends list change their name to "quitting4now" and hasn't logged in for over a week so i need one more spot on my list5355-6306-9887
>>56727312Yeah between the jet lag, bachelor party/wedding, and then just straight losing a day flying back from the US to Japan I had to manually add a bunch of sessions.
I think I may have forgotten to finish off my "spend x candies" mission last week...
>>56738185Glad I am not the only one...
Thoughts?https://www.pokemonsleep.net/en/news/313932383637323335323232353139383039/>Balance Adjustments■ Adjustments to the target for main skill Energizing Cheer S• The probability of this main skilltargeting the helper Pokémon with the lowest Energy on your team has been raised a bitmore.■ Adjustments to certain helper Pokémon’s main skills and main skillchance• Houndour and Houndoom• Before change: Charge Strength S• After change:Charge Strength M• Due to these main skill changes, the main skill chance will be loweredslightly.• Umbreon• Before change: Charge Energy S• After change: Moonlight(Charge Energy S)• Due to these main skill changes, the main skill chance will be loweredslightly.• This skill will still restore Energy to the user, but if a Great Success occurs, it will now alsorestore a small amount of Energy to a random Pokémon on your team.Notes: Main skill levels will bemaintained after the update.Main skills of Pokémon you have already befriended will also change.
>>56738428>main skill chance lowered slightlygay. at least my ampharos has high speed so it'll hit that chance out of pity.guess I can put her in the box if it's that bad. probably making drifloon and mimikyu look not so bad
>>56738428Umbreon might no be so dogshit now, that's kinda cool. Although depending on a "great success" still kinda sucks, especially if it has the same restriction as Mimikyu's skill of needing a sleep session to get another great success.
>>56738619Anon the lower skill chance is only for Houndoom.
>>56738651damn i'm a fucking idiotdeleting the app now
>>56738428Forgot about the Halloween Pikachu buff.Looks like there still aren't enough people really using Energizing Cheer. Doesn't help that there aren't many good users of it either. I think Houndoom was still on the weaker side as far as Berry Pokemon go, but I don't think this will really change much.And if the "great success" is the same as Mimikyu, it can only do it once per day. I don't think Umbreon would be able to place a normal healer, but it seems likely it would be able to hit a "great success" nearly every day.
>>56738428My thoughts is that finding a good Houndour would be nice and that Eevee bias is fucking gay.>>56738676I stand by healers needing to be nerfed.Hard.Several points off of the restoration, no ability to stack procs, and a lower proc rate across the board.
>>56739019why do you hate healers?
>>56739107Because they're a shitty mechanic.Something like the single target ones is one thing, but party wide healing at the power it has is retarded.
>>56739123if anything, there's a lot of mechanics of the game that could use reworks, and I don't mean stuff like nature mints
>>56739123>but party wide healing at the power it has is retarded.You could choose not to use it.
>>56739123I feel like healers might eventually get replaced just by the natural progression of the game, given enough time.For example, my Taupe team can actually get more overall strenght by forgoing a healer (BFS Typhlosion, Arcanine, Charizard, Ninetales + non-BFS Entei). Should you be able to reach something similar on other islands, healers would be useless.
>>56739265And I don't.
>>56739372i feel this. either replaced or other skills giving the same amount of strength as if the team were at 100% all day.when my healer heals all my mon at 150% I switch the healer and the entire day is dedicated to berries.
>>56739423>when my healer heals all my mon at 150% I switch the healer and the entire day is dedicated to berries.Happens to me once every two weeks at best and I have a max proc max skill level Garde, the currently best E4E in the game... how do you do it? I check the game frequently and never get a double proc (so no skill down time ls wasted)
>>56739464idk just luck. i have an alright sylvie and the rest of the team has helping bonus. double procs in a day or two.
>>56738428>Houndoom buffI don't get the point of upgrading the skill but lowering the trigger rate. Why not just buff his skill rate instead of going through the trouble of changing the skill?Either way, the buff is appreciated but I don't think it will change much.>Energizing Cheer buffThank fucking God!>>56738676>Looks like there still aren't enough people really using Energizing Cheer.I use a Slowking (mostly because I got a good shiny one) and I like him, but I can totally see why people don't bother with Energizing Cheer.First off, it restores less total energy than Energy for Everyone (5 x 18 = 90 vs. EC's 50), which already puts it behind.Then there's the biggest problem: even after the buff it received a long time ago, it still triggers on high-energy mons waaay too often.This is an issue because the maximum energy a mon can hold is 150. This means that any triggers on a mon above 100 energy will result in wasted energy. Watching your EC user trigger twice on the same fucking mon (meaning one trigger will likely get partially or completely wasted) is a very infuriating experience that E4E users don't have to deal with.I really hope this buff is gonna severely reduce the chances of this happening. But I wish they had just completely removed the RNG and made it so that it always targets the lowest energy mon.
If I've got a water-type team with Suicune (currently Feraligator, Quagsire, Slowking and Blastoise), would I still get the best benefit out of Suicune's Helper Boost ability if I have both Slowking and Slowbro on my team? Or do 'mons on the same evolutionary line not work for that?
>>56739791they should.it counts for pichu and pikachu separate for raikou, so i'm sure it the same for the slows
>>56739878Great to know, thanks! I got a shiny Slowbro and was super tempted to add it in. Sadly it only gets tails at level 60... But at least it's an option.
healers are def OP, my whole team is at 103% at 2am
I was about to use the Dedenne incense I had saved up to finally push over the last ticks, but then I realized I could get 2x or 3x candies if I just waited until next week. I guess it would have been safe to use one of the Power Plant pokemon incenses, but I'm also dangerously short on biscuits this month already.
>>56740690Yeah, I'm pretty short on biscuits/sleep points too right now. I'm gonna be conservative this week at Greengrass with hopes of getting something good next week.
is this fella worth investing into?Don't really mind about mega minmaxxing so doesn't have to be perfect but I don't wanna invest in something that's really bad either
>new alarms addedfinally...my legacy...
>>56740925Truly the best thing they're gonna add in that update.
>>56740910Not really, it's neither good or bad aside from that one nice Helping Bonus that boosts your whole team.Charmander family are ingredient specialists, you want one to have early access to Ingredient Finder subskills, and an ingredient boosting nature. The ingredient slots it has also matter, though Charmander doesn't have the most interesting ingredients. They're great for curries, but sausages and ginger are over-represented.
>>56740910>>56741006I'd add that it's probably worth boosting to level 30 Charizard so you can make the most of what you have, but I would not invest in it beyond that. It looks like you've been playing for at least half a year, anyway.
>>56741030ive been playing on and off for a while yeah, but i never really figured out the game was mostly asking because the rate your mon page said it was a 90+ percentile but i couldnt really figure out why or how it calculated it. thanks ^^>>56741006noted, thanks a lot for the advice
Is this rat any decent?
>>56741233>90+ percentileat 100 it's very fast and has an ingredient finder subskill, so i can see that being the rating. but that's at 100>>56741317it's ok at 25>lvl 6but i assume you're pretty new and that might be a while away. and it's not like you'll be on snowdrop tundra anytime soon for it to have a favoured berry
>>56739711>>Houndoom buffLowering skill rate means berry rate (or ingredient rate or both but unlikely) is going up so I guess its a good thing.Gotta see the numbers, but my guess is they want to try make it more berry useful while keeping around the same its contribution with main skill
>>56741378no, its from lvl 25 onwards. im not sure if im doing something wrong in the site though
>>56741543When you pick a Pokémon, raenonx auto-picks a rating criteria based on their specialty. Skill specialists are rated on expected daily skill trigger count. Berry specialists are rated on berry strength. Ingredient specialists are rated on ingredient strength. The latter two factor in things like helping speed and subskills or nature that influence ingredient gathering, as ingredient slots. Berry specialists want minimised ingredients, ingredient specialists want maximise ingredients. The ingredient strength calculation also looks at the strength of the individual ingredients plus how many for each unlocked slot. This means that certain ingredient unlock combinations are better or worse for raw numbers, but this does not necessarily correlate to practical meal cooking (being able to consistently cook high value dishes, versus frequently making lower value dishes with higher value ingredients added in).What this means is that the ingredient strength rating may be misleading as it forgoes strategy.
>>56741665i see, that's pretty complicated ngl but thanks for explaining it to me, i understand it a little bit better now at least
>>56738428>leafeon might be usable>Umbreon might be usableI've been hunting for the perfect eevee for agesproblem is that energy for everyone is just too good, you're often guaranteed 40% energy first thing in the morning with a double trigger and that just keeps compounding
>>56741709if more pokemon that heal others outside of e4e gets added e4e may get superseded. Water is basically there. It has the double slowpoke evos that can heal others with a nice base skill trigger rate. Combine that with Quagsire who heals itself and you can somewhat feasibly run full water with no e4e
I admit my defeat...I underestimate the need of apples for sweets. It's especially hard to cook good dishes now with Scones being a regular dish and Cola requiring 35...
>>56741378Thanks, I'll keep it in mind for later then. Considering my autism demands I stay on the starting island until I get my favourite Pokémon, I should have plenty of candy to level it up by the time I can actually use it
>>56742263I told you, bastard, I told you get an apple, apple, apple fuecoco! I TOLD you!!
>>56742293would my go++ pika work instead?
>>56742552Yea that lil shit's a boon to any team, especially if you have it leveled up. Apples are by far the ingredient I toss the most.
>>56739419if you don't use it then why do you want it nerfed? it doesn't affect you...
>>56742293Popping my Fuecoco incense right now
