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>>56665155
>t-they’re taking a gap year to polisse thé game goys
>in reality the game Is already done and thé only reason its not out yet Is to shill the ashnime minus ash
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>>56665155
>animefags are the reason why we aren’t playing the game right now

Was the anime running behind schedule or something?

>>56665155
>Zeraora.
It will never catch on.

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>>56665155
They also discuss about gen 10 there

>>56665323
>Kodaigame
...Carracosta?

>>56665155
I don't give a shit, if I'm honest I'd rather they delay it to 2026 if it means it gets actually polished, I don't want a new scarlet and violet tier slop.

>>56665155
Literally nobody cares about the liko anime

>pla was mentioned in a grand total of two(2) ashnime episode
>now ZA Is supposeldy so important to the likonime that the game realease date has to be delayed so it may catch up.
yeah, i dont believe it.

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>>56665291
According to the newly leaked documents, GameFreak, TPC, and OLM all are involved in the anime and have various staff meetings discussing its outlines. Apparently, Horizons wasn’t doing too hot in the initial draft phases, and GameFreak sent a lot of letters critiquing whatever OLM were cooking up. The new director of the anime ignored the letters from GameFreak and changed the plot and direction of the anime to be more focused as an anime for girls. The first 12 episodes were rewritten, so the anime was delayed about 6 months.

One of the exchanges between Sugimori and the anime staff, he really lets them have it

>>56665398
>anime to be more focused as an anime for girls
Literally why

>>56665155
Stop trying to make Zeraora a thing. I don't know why Game Freak cannot understand what made Lucario cool and keeps defaulting to: "What if animal... was people?"

>>56665415
Girls watch TV more than boys. Disney Channel is 80% stuff pandering to girls 5-15

>>56665415
because girl are the biggest and dumbest consumers of all. It only make sense to pander to them so they may buy some shitty overpriced merch.

>>56665429
Even Zoroark was cooler than him

>>56665415
DEI - modern audience - woke - troons - americans ruin humanity
pick one
(it's all of them)

>>56665291
The anime (and Pokespe) are all habitually behind. The anime isn't following the plot of the games but is still heading towards Area Zero anyway, and no Paradox Pokemon have shown up thus far. Not even the two raidons. They're at Kitakami starting this Friday.

Pokespe is about like halfway through the basegame right now, Kusaka hasn't touched the DLCs at all. In both Pokespe and the anime all starters just evolved to their second-stage.

The previous anime dealt with PLA before by having a couple episodes where photos of Hisui were shown, and the characters dressed like the Rei and Akari.

>>56665398
Anyone with a brain knows this franchise is dead so pander to girls because they're materialistic enough for it.

>>56665429
cope. Zeraora succeeded where zoroark flopped.

>>56665383
Big bad guy in the anime has a Zygarde, which we know from the leaks is getting a mega form. It’s already shaping up to be more of a role than DiaPer in Journeys, which weren’t connected to the “plot” at all.

>>56665439
Most people who play Pokemon are boys. Girls rather watch hello kitty or precure or some shit
>>56665441
It really doesn't the established audience is boys. Pokemon was meant to be cool not some uwu cutesy shit.

>>56665398
Has there been a white Zygarde in the show I don't watch it

>>56665429
Because Zeraora was proven to be excessively popular with their focus testing groups: Japanese children. Even long after it had its movie it was still topping demographic polls, up there with Charizard and Lucario for them. Theres a graphic from the previous gen showing this.

>>56665452
Does TPC even promote the manga at all in Japan? It has absolutely no online advertising in the West whereas their YouTube channel and social media accounts are always promoting the anime

>>56665490
Yeah, there's promotion in Japan.

>>56665415
What's the matter faggot you don't like having cute girls in the anime?

>>56665477
Yeah the big bad guy has one in it’s dog form. It’s like his pet in the same way Giovanni had Persian.

>>56665472
>Most people who play Pokemon are boys.
And boys would much prefer to consume YouTube or other online video sharing content. Girls are more likely to watch televised or streamed media

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>leaked Z-A build is probably closer to the final version than we imagine

>>56665503
>not wanting a girls anime = you dont want cute girls
Retard

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>>56665470
>Mega zygarde leak
i have a hard time believing thi Is legit too desu. like what would a mega zygarde even look like theorically? what´s more than 100%?

kek as soon as Ash leaves the anime turns to shit and brings the games down with it

>>56665511
Pokemon is not some random new kids show its the biggest franchise in the world

>>56665551
and yet the anime doesn't even make up 0.1% of the revenue it makes

>>56665557
The anime should be used as an advertising revenue for the games thats how its always has been

>>56665539
Could be spoiled by the title. Z-A, or Zygarde combined with the weapon.

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>>56665472
> Pokemon was meant to be cool not some uwu cutesy shit.
go back playing digishit.

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>>56665415
Have no clue, here’s the direct quote

Dai Soto wanted Liko to be similar to Nezuko from Demon Slayer or Elsa from Frozen, and changed the double protagonist direction it initially had to specifically being more focused on Liko, so little girls can relate.

Unfortunately he did this and as a result had to rewrite the first 12 episodes of the show which led to the delay. GameFreak were obviously not happy about it, as you can see from the dev letters.

>>56665582
It's been a method of advertising merchandise and it's been that way since arguably before Season 3

>>56665614
cute pokemon existing disproves my point in what way exactly? I never said cutemons weren't Important but what I'm saying is that coolness drives the franchise

>>56665452
>The anime isn't following the plot of the games but is still heading towards Area Zero anyway, and no Paradox Pokemon have shown up thus far
This is why I believe most of the "leaked" plot in Horizons has changed.GF and TPCi probably didnt like the direction of the anime and changed many things like actually including characters from SV, just like how we had a whole school plot and now we got Carmine, Perrin and Briar.

Having a whole autoconclusive story of characters that barelly appear is dumb, that's why I think that was one of the reasons they killed the Ash's AU Yajimaverse.

>>56665648
>>56665635
OFC but when people think of the Pokemon anime they think of rival battles that what the franchise is. Cute Pokemon are fine as well but trying to have the anime revolve around Pokemon elsa is retarded as shit when what made the franchise popular wasn't the characters but the creatures.

>>56665415
Girls and women buy more way more merchandise than boys and men.

>>56665155
The delay was definitely due to the reaction to SV being a buggy mess on release. I doubt the anime could have affected them pushing it back at all. It's also possible Nintendo asked them to push it back so a Switch 2 version can help sell consoles.

>>56665323
>>56665398
It's funny, Horizons getting delayed is what allowed us to get that 10 episode finale for Ash.

>>56665736
yeah but more Pokemon merch is purchased by guys whether that be trading cards or the games

>>56665155
The anime was ALWAYS the cancer in the balls of this franchise. Everything has to be delayed because of it.

>>56665757
On top of that its not even a good idea there are so many other girls franchises that have cute creatures why Pokemon a franchise kept alive by nostalgia fags and People who play the games. Not saying a girls anime cant exist but it cant be the MAIN thing.

I'd love to see some of the meetings they had for Journeys, because that was the first time the anime really diverged from the games. Personally I always felt it was a result of Gamefreak suddenly being very paranoid about giving anyone information about the upcoming games, so the anime staff had no idea what they were supposed to do for the first half year and then they got stuck with some all regions anime which they completely fumbled. I would love to one day find out if I'm right or not.

>>56665757
Anime merch like stickers and other shit is mostly brought by girls.

>>56665821
I doubt even thats true but use context clues idiot Pokemon is not a girls franchise. Girls are going to rather watch Sanrio or something.

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>replaces trASH
>becomes the center of the story and pushes Roy to the background
>delays your games
>rent free in Sugimori’s head
>changes the anime’s entire target audience into women to anger incels

Say her name

we would be playing ZA right now or in a month if not for Dai Soto

>>56665854
Nobody knows her name kek

>>56665291
personally quality standards are the reason im not playing the game right now, it not being out yet changes nothing

>>56665155
I fucking hate the anime so fucking much
>>56665293
This

>>56665854
wasnt her name Rico?

>>56665854
Liko my balls

>>56665201
... ashnime?

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>>56665854
Honest to God, I don't know her name.

>>56665293
>3108 results
That's not bad for a modern 'mon

>>56665398
>Trusting the Eureka 7 faggot
Kek
Lol
Lmao even

>>56665854
The bratty girl voiced by pikachu woman is more popular.

>>56665540
>>56665398
Jesus Christ, just get rid of this fucking anime already, the Ashime sucked ass and this new one sucks just as much.

>>56665361
It's Terapagos.

>>56665754
>Horizons getting delayed is what allowed us to get that 10 episode finale for Ash.
From what I see while that's true inba way they still smacked the guy for trying to end with Goh and Koharu

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>>56665155
Why the fuck did GF randomly decide to now follow the anime or link with the anime when they never gave a fuck about it before?

>>56666060
i wish we could have gotten a battle frontier for the sinnoh series. then that 2010 or 2011 toukou event happened.

>>56665960
It is older than a decade, and a fox.
Younger mons are more popular.

>>56665754
>It's funny, Horizons getting delayed is what allowed us to get that 10 episode finale for Ash.
And those episodes still felt pointless and a lackluster sendoff (Ash honestly should have been gone a long time ago honestly)

>>56665960
results?

>>56666079
There was always a bit of cross promotion going on. Remember ash greninja?

>>56666079
what? anon the anime, card and games were always connected.

>>56666079
Because of that unironically, TPC did fuck all in trying to keep control so Yuyama went mad with power, they literally said that it was their mistake and that's way Horizons is basically speed running

>>56666104
I liked it, I wasn't expecting any kind of conclusion and I always knew it would end with "Ash's journey will continue". I just liked seeing Brock and Misty again.

>>56665477
Bad guy has a shiny dog Zygarde

>>56665854
this is good, now when ash returns in some one-off he can be older and finally give serena her last princess key

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>>56666079
Actually, once again the leaked documents reveal everything. GameFreak started getting directly involved with the anime in Pokemon Journeys. The previous anime staff who worked on the Ashnime for 25 years, even commission GameFreak to make the character designs for Ash and Goh.

They paid $11,040 for the designs, and then GameFreak made a pitch outline for them, which consisted of character info, game info to adapt, and the decision to bring back older characters

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>>56666182
>the anime delaying the games
>because the anime is linked to the games they're now rushing the anime and fucking it in the ass even more
Who the fuck even wins from this? It's like they're screwing over both sides to the benefit of no one.

>>56666242
Okay cool that answers the When but I'm asking about the Why

>>56665854
My child wife

>>56666243
More games and more anime means more merch faster and morerer

Japs are consumers of the highest fibre, never forget that.

>>56666243
The anime has always been linked tho, like some said they also has to rewrite the entire beginning because they just didn't like it and thought muh special snowflake family was ridiculous, at least by then, who knows by now

>>56666282
God damn people make fun of chinks for being hiveminded bugmen but the nips are just as bad

>delays bad
Yes we love rushed yearly slop
Keep feeding us the garbage and cum my Lord Game Freak

>>56665398
Fuck OLM. What a shitty anime studio.

>>56666292
>The anime has always been linked tho
and this is exactly why pokemon is retarded, the anime is not a selling point anymore, like at all, not even in japan for at least 10 years.
they could just make an actual anime with the game's story and protagonists, but tpc, nintendo and game freak are too retarded to see this

>>56665854
I don't even know her name, it's actually impressive how the Pokemon anime fell out of the mainstream spotlight.

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>>56666104
What do you mean the Ashime had the perfect ending

>>56666313
>are you delaying the game to improve upon it?
>lolno we're just delaying it to match with the anime
delays in and of themselves are not a sign of something good or bad, it is the reason behind the delays that determines that. So the fact that the slop is delayed not to improve it but to promote other slop is in fact bad.

why reuse an engine for a side game for Legends when we couldn't even get a 3D version of sinnoh remakes.

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>>56665854
>and pushes Roy to the background

>>56666339
Just as Arceus inten-
>Pikachu is male
WHAT A DISGUSTING AFFRONT TO GOD, HOMOSEXUALITY IS A SIN

>>56666301
It's genuinely frustrating just how product/toy focused they are as a nation.

>>56666079
They were heavily promoting Terapagos like 6 months before TID

>>56666358
Why are they dripping with sweat?

>>56666341
You are really dumb if you really think the devs sit there doing nothing for a year. They keep doing work even if just bugfixes.

>>56666398
>Terapagos
Does somebody like it? It seems to have less staying power than the previous gimmicks.

I'm wondering why they never released any kind of "gameplay" trailer in the last few months if there's already a functioning build. I'm not talking about anything crazy, just something like what the fucking game looks like, kind of like how PLA at least showed the protagonist walking in a field and the starters when it was announced.

>>56666436
It is probably full of bugs

>>56666182
>Horizons is basically speed running
That's not true thought, PLZA is not coming in early 2025 and Ash is not gonna magically appear in the next 5 months

>>56666436
We know about games well into 2025 like GTA and Monster Hunter, but Game Freak are really keeping this shit under wraps (inb4 it's still shit)

>>56666424
Not really, people stopped caring about Terapagos when it became apparent Indigo Disk was a story about Kieran that happened to involve Terapagos, and in order to ACTUALLY learn about Terapagos, they'd be waiting until the narrative climax of Horizons to actually understand how its powers work, thus, in order to truly understand the narrative of Scarlet and Violet, they have to wait until the shojo anime is done taking its sweet time.

>>56666436
They like having a bunch of stuff to throw into a constant stream of trailers, so the initial reveal to just say "hey we're working on something" never has anything.
But those content drops only make sense in a consistent leadup to that release, meaning it has to actually be somewhat close to it.

>>56666436
if Generation IX is that of a disaster for gamefreak, then gen X probably wont be released until the 30th anniversary. it would be unfortunate to celebrate your 30th anniversary if your next game is riddled with bugs and graphical glitches.

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I'd believe it that Horizons is unironically responsible for a delay. They coordinated the games and anime enough to have Liko's Terapagos transform and use Tera Starstorm for the first time on the same day that Indigo Disk released, so there's absolutely constant discussions between the big players of the franchise to make sure the machine is well-oiled and cooperating.
Or, well, that WAS the case until things derailed, as it seems.

>>56666483
Gen 10 will have the handy excuse or being their first Switch 2 game so it'll be allowed to be shit.

>>56666326
THIS FUCKING THIS
imagine they would just make a brand new anime starting with red and going trough all gens with the protagonists and the real ingame stories, holy fucking shit I'd nut

>>56666519
Yup, fully defended under the "PS4-tier hardware growing pains" excuse, because Heckin' GameFreak has NEVER developed on such powerful tech before when they've only BARELY gotten a grip on Switch tech after they only BARELY got a grip on 3DS tech.

>>56666519
at this point i rather them experiment and get use to switch 2 after the blunder of a failure that is generation ix.

>>56666520
>RED RED RED
Fake fan

>>56666520
I don't want that, I don't want to see red tale, I already played that shit. And God knows I don't want whatever drug fest the manga is

I want to see a dude go through his own journey into becoming a champion, no legendary plot or hook, no choose one, or ultra especial pokemon just some joe schmuck catching shit and battling gyms

>>56666561
you fucking retard, gen1 started with red, then we go to the next gen with the next protag etc.
nothing to do with RED RED RED, I don't even like him
you retarded piece of 4chan aids, kill yourself

>>56666566
so you want ash for another 25 years? cool

>>56666571
Someone is upset

>>56666571
>Gen1 started with red

Uh oh

>>56666571
Red is a gay mute that gets fucked by Green every night

No one but the most autistic of millennials care about Red fighting a bunch of rattatas below a casino then fucking off to some mountain, the mega evolution special worked because it was short and sold us on a new game mechanic, Red alone is lame

>>56665155
>>56665201
>Doesn't mention the anime at all as one potential reasoning
>"Probably had to do with the anime."
I somehow highly doubt that.

Also wasnt that Rasennigger responsible for spreading misinformation about the corocoro magazine on social media?

>>56665164
Any moonrune decoders itt?
What does it say that a machine translator can't see?

>>56666561
>BRENDAN BRENDAN BRENDAN
Fake fan

>>56666582
I want a new bozo that actually ages and isn't ruined by some shitty director that has him choke at every opportunity.

Ash is done give me any other dude with their regional rodent or something

>>56666598
He's so mysterious!

>>56666436
Same reason why they used to not release the concept art of their games, nips love to be secretive as shit and likes to bring the surprise factor because it thinks is the magic to charm the consumer into buying their products

>>56666619
BLASTO BAHN!

>>56666632
Don't call them that. I'll report you if you do it further.

When should we expect something like Generations/Evolutions again?

>>56666598
>he can't read
Also, remember the BW promo anime? I want something like this (nta)

>>56666358
>>56666407
Hot

>>56666626
So was the quiet guy from special ed until he stabbed a cat

I'll never understand the Red wank from the fan base, from GF I do, but from my peers? No man that shit is lame

>>56666668
He's ash!

I dont trust a discordtard who butchered the corocoro April issue by lying about words being there

>>56666666

>>56666598
what a retard, they don't have to make him mute in every incarnation, they literally didn't in the mega evolution special you yourself just mentioned, literally go read a book to train your brain up before coming here you're too mentally young for this board

>>56666416
Bugfixes only go so far when the game fundamentally trash

>>56666604
>doesn’t mention the anime at all
Are you retarded, the whole document is literally about the anime

>>56666598
>Green
Uh, can we still not refer to "him" and "her" as a thing?

>>56666453
>GTA and Monster Hunter
Those are games made by competent devs, Game Freak is a small indie company preasee understanduuuuu

>>56666652
So you want a short omnibus, good. Maybe they will well us this shit if we reach the next milestone for this franchise
But I'm starting to think we may actually see the end of pokemon in our generation, ever since they tried to copy yokai watch things took a turn for the worse and never looked back

>>56666697
>book=smart
Esl

>>56666728
>turn for the worse
>sales as strong ad they ever have been

>>56665155
A good time to take a leak...

>>56666709
Shut the fuck up subhuman, they would SAY the reason behind a delay like too little QRD, bug testing. But no one in the document is saying word about why. Don't fucking work with the words "Probably" if they DEFINITELY haven't mentioned anything that supports it

>>56666758
yeah yeah cuck cope esl kys etc since all you read is 4chan and that's why you're dumb as shit

>>56666799
>latinx threatens violence
It's all you know lol

>>56666464
>and in order to ACTUALLY learn about Terapagos, they'd be waiting until the narrative climax of Horizons to actually understand how its powers work, thus, in order to truly understand the narrative of Scarlet and Violet, they have to wait until the shojo anime is done taking its sweet time.
Wait wait wait... The anime still didn't explain what terapagos does? Fucking hell i hate scarlet and violet so much and this dumb imagination vs timetravel crap.

>>56665531
>Doesn't want to see cute girls
Fag

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>don’t believe it
>check the folder
>it’s real

Fucking kek, GameFreak wrote a whole letter complaining about the people making the new anime not listening to any of their guidelines, and said the new character doesn’t feel special like Ash

>>56666825
>and said the new character doesn’t feel special like Ash
Despite all the wank, Ash was fully buried by Hoenn.

>>56666728
No, I meant I want a long version of something like the bw2 promo from gen1 to gen10 and beyond

>>56666825
Everyone in charge of this franchise seems to be some weak willed faggot where they bitch and moan but never do anything because then you can't bitch and moan about problems.

>>56666825
>Gayfreak literally doing everything BUT MAKING A GOOD GAME

>>56666793
You’re a complete fucking retard. In the 2209 document Iwao, Sugimori, Ohmori, and Matsumisha are freaking out that the show got rewritten despite their guidelines and it effecting when they’re supposed to debut Zygarde. Actually read the fucking letters before saying stupid shit you absolute mongoloid.

>>56666839
No.

>>56666825
Outside of merchandise, this franchise a fucking mess

>>56666850
t. ash baby

>>56666848
Every day I'm more and more convinced decisions are made there based on dice rolls

>>56665155
i hate this franchise so much now

Who is in charge of creating merch?
Obviously with a game being delayed due to the anime fuck ups (for synergy) I would assume it also means merch and tcg production also delayed?

>>56666849
>Make a coincidence with the chosen Pokemon
>Told the anime team to take the backseat
They would have to communicate with the anime team as to why they are delaying the game for a whole. Don't project your useless Illiteracy onto me.

>>56666865
>he doesn't know how to t. correctly

>>56666839
Tell me how do you make a good story about Red goin through route 4 or 9

A long anime has a lot of stops and stories to tell, the protagonist from pokespe and the games cannot hold a narrative on their own for long

As much as we may hate Ash the back and forth with his companions for the long stretches before they reached a city carried this show.

>>56666825
>and said the new character doesn’t feel special like Ash
Wasn't it that the starter bond was fucking lame and kids wouldn't find it special while also shitting on them because why in the seven hells would a grandma endanger her child by giving her a pendant that would put her in danger?

>>56666813
wow your iq is somehow even lower than I thought, it's mocking you for defaulting to buzzwords you braindead moron, how did you not process that and you're supposed to be 18+

>>56666842
>>56666848
Kind of weird how they try to do anything but their jobs.

>>56666890
i dont have to do that it is down to the writers not me

>>56665914
Hi newfag. I would say lurk moar but you probably won't be around for that long so: Ashnime refers to the Pokemon anime during the time period that Ash was in it.

>>56666814
Nope, we're STILL waiting to learn more. The most we know is that Rakua is probably Area Zero or at least connected to it, because Terapagos was able to purify an Umbreon that was in a berserk state due to exposure from crystals originating from Rakua, similar to how it can manipulate Tera Crystals.

>>56666895
>for defaulting to buzzwords
>>56666799
Lmao

>>56666890
You can make it seasonal

>>56666900
I don't think there's enough good writers in Japan to make Dawn or Lucas interesting for more than 24 episodes, and this is with a lot of Sinnoh lore dumps, the protagonist of Pokemon are not good anime characters

>>56666895
You're dumb as shit retard. Better go back.

>>56666924
Yes just set one in the winter and one in the summer

>>56666836
*Sinnoh
His farewell with Brock by then was fucking kino

>>56665155
the more rumors I hear about this game, the more complete shit it sounds like it's going to end up.

>>56666956
How about having a positive attitude for once? The attitude on the sub stinks

>>56666948
I meant how the fans thought about him, it was even joked that pikachu had a level drain.

>>56666974
I had a good attitude, the SS released in all it's shitty glory

>>56666876
What are you even saying? Please fuck off. They said that the anime was supposed to debut Zeraora to build up to the big reveal of its new Mega in Z-A. They were supposed to debut the Mega at the same time. The anime team scrapped Zeraora. If the plan was to run in tandem with each other, then one part not doing that will fuck up the rest you super retard. For all intents and purposes, your shitty anime delayed the video games.

>>56666897
This is honestly the biggest problem with pokemon. Game freak being the franchise's creator want to babysit everyone, they are worse than Miyamoto now. Just let them do whatever with the anime if it flops then let it flop and make another anime. Pokemon is the only franchise that needs to be all connected by the game freak autists

>>56666920
no shit, it's in response to "esl" to parrot the buzzword spam which is the point
>>56666934
sorry I don't take advice from people that can't read

Why exactly are trusting a screenshot of a discord post when they won't even dump the raw text here for anyone to translate? That fucker in the OP is the same faggot who lied back in April that the April edition of Corocoro said that they would have more news next month but it was actually saying to just look forward to more news in the future.

What they need to do is bring back Brock and Misty with Ash. That is what Pokemon is and always was

>GameFreak decide to get involved with the anime for once
>completely backfires

Why is the anime even a thing anymore now that Ash is gone?

>>56667009
>captain grammar backtracking
Lmao

>>56666998
>your shitty anime delayed the video games.
As someone who watched E7 and its movies I still don't get why they shilled the guy that much

>>56667009
Mutt moment

>>56667015
The raw text is in the first fucking post of the thread you dumbass >>56665164

>>56666974
SwSh and SV took any positivity I had for this franchise and threw it in the dumpster.

>>56667024
You are a masochist

>>56667023
you don't even know what backtracking is
>>56667034
see >>56666799

>>56667024
Zeraora? They want a second Lucario.

>>56666998
>What are you even saying? Please fuck off.
>NOOO DONT QUESTION OP
You would think that they would explicitly say anything about why they're delaying it
>It was supposed to release in 2024
And then somewhere after that line, they would actually share the reason or would tell them why.
>But well, we need another because we are not having enough people/Game isn't optimized/Haven't finished debugging
Fuck off yourself.

>>56667044
It was a different time and I liked robots, the start was good but then the second part happened and then the movies, god, what a fucking mess they were.

The pink girl and her bf were the only good things

>>56667061
>stuck in a loop of failure
I pity you

>>56667065
Only millennial women with self esteem issues like zeraora!

>>56667065
They're in for a rude awakening.

>>56667035
They said it was supposed to, but they didn't said something further than that. He immediately skipped to the focus in the third year and see how things go. God learn how to read.

>>56667084
The movies broke me, all my love for the franchise went down with cast ability to make intelligent decisions.

>>56667092
They are moving to Typhlosion now.

>>56667095
I think it will be the 5th time.

>>56667086
only people who can't read are stuck anywhere, it's pretty simple but I guess it looks complicated to you

>>56667095
Third times the charm kek

>>56667067
Did you read the quote at all? Sugimori said it was planned for 2024, and that Zeraora and Zygarde’s reveals were going to be the ones to hype that shit up. The anime staff SCRAPPED Zeraora and debuted Zygarde a MONTH after Z-A was revealed. Everything went off schedule, which is why GameFreak are complaining in the letters you idiot.

Fucking idiot, just read you retard

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>>56667024
Apparently Japs love him, so they keep shilling him

>>56667151
Zeraora is cool and has the same face as Ash

>>56667104
Ironic

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I like Zeraora. I just much prefer Raikou for rare electric cat.

>>56666825
>Liko
>Not special
What? She was chosen by an ultra-legendary, she has a mythical heritage, a fated rivalry with an evil syndicate, her weedcat was said to be unusually powerful for its kind, and her goal is leading to Area Zero. How is that not special? If she was any more special she'd get 'game protagonist'-tier special, the kind of ultraspecial that made Kieran go apeshit.

>>56667222
I'll take raikosaurus over zeraora any day

>>56667226
>the kind of ultraspecial that made Kieran go apeshit
Foreshadowing your name is Gamefreak

>>56667226
Special as in drawing dimes.

>>56667226
I think they mean that they liked how Ash was special in that he was just an everyman in the anime and not chosen by fate (movies notwithstanding) as opposed to a special snowflake. I could be talking out of my ass though since I obviously don't work at GameFreak or OLM or TPC

>>56667222
Gonna respect this autist, she's the only one doing shit for those two and is getting better

>>56667151
>inb4 all the mons here get a new Mega
>Yes that includes a 2nd Mega for Lucario

What's their excuse for the complete black out tho?
If the game is finished, why not have some trailer in the last pokemon present?
Or at the very least show the protags and starters?
It seems like they're purpotedly starving the fans out f new content for whatever contrived and dumb marketing strategy their stupid gook mindset came up with...

>>56667261
Fuck
They are totally giving 2 megas to zeraora and Liko Zeraora because Greninja wasn't good enough

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>>56667037
>Old games bad
>No one cares
>New games bad
>REEEEEE IT'S OVER!!!!!!

>>56667268
They're probably saving it for the first clash in court with Palworld

>>56667148
>Sugimori said it was planned for 2024, and that Zeraora and Zygarde’s reveals were going to be the ones to hype that shit up.
Good job on getting that
>The anime staff SCRAPPED Zeraora and debuted Zygarde a MONTH after Z-A was revealed.
Now this is where you fumble the ball big time to see something that wasn't there. Those were literally early drafts that coincided with Gamefreaks decision and the document itself is from August 2022, over a year and six months before they thought of revealing things in the final version.

The anime always has to wait for shit until Game freak and TPC gives them the OK, are you seriously gonna try and blame the anime studio for the job that Gamefreak was supposed to do? They were the ones who should have come first and said that they would do something with Zygarde, not until both sides find out about their plans by coincidence. Why didn't anyone from Gamefreak came running over to them as soon as the game with Zygarde was given a go to make? This is a poor coincidence where both sides failed to say something but the games never took the brake for the games because if that was the case then SV wouldn't have released in 2022. Try harder than being an anime-only

>>56667261
Mega Lucario X vs Mega Zeraora vs Mega Cinderace vs Mega Greninja battle royale.

>>56667253
Roy fits that description more then. He doesn't have any of that specialness that Liko does, and the Pokemon he's after technically belongs to her. But he's still on par with her in battling skill, and his goal of catching the shiny Fug is treated as equal to Liko's own goal of finding Terapagos' paradise.

>>56667268
>If the game is finished, why not have some trailer in the last pokemon present?
Likely so they can show an utmost polished version of the footage for the trailer to prevent backlash like what happened with PLA and SV with the low framerate trailers.
>Or at the very least show the protags and starters?
I think they should've showed them in the 1st trailer but maybe they wanted to avoid that in case other things had to be changed around during the extra span of time working on the game.

>>56667280
*but the games never took the brake for the anime

>>56667294
There is going to be another Zelda tree isn't it?

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I found the document OP is referring to. There’s actually two separate staff meetings that deal with the topic. MTG220829 is the specific interview that this >>56665164 comes from

And yea, looks like it’s a general meeting talking about Horizons with all the big wigs at GameFreak and TPC involved. Iwao mentions his concerns that the anime didn’t seem to have a plan for Zygarde and that it might conflict with the debut of the new Mega. Sugimori expresses his frustration that the anime staff weren’t going to adapt the school despite its significance. Ohmori also says that the synergy between the anime and SV has fallen apart, and it may be a wasted effort. Hayashi expresses his dismay that the promotion may be ruined.

It’s not looking good

>>56666825
>and said the new character doesn’t feel special like Ash

As in, not mentally challenged?

>>56667314
I mean if there's something egregious after they took this extra time then it'd certainly have felt like a waste of time, but then again if it's still bad when the trailer does come out I imagine it'd have been much much worse if it came out even earlier.

>>56666605
nothing else worth noting really

All I'm getting from this thread is that the anime has always been a cancer in the franchise that has caused more damage than it's brought about benefits.

>>56667325
What a fucking disaster lol

Wasn't there a supposed timeskip leak? Lol ot would be cool if it happened because GF would have to force them to do damage control since they would get spammed by people asking why didn't that to happen to Ash

I think they told them to not do anything that would damage the character and his legacy

>>56667294
They go away with the low frame in PLA and everyone forgot about SV's as soon as they made that press release statement about improving their work conditions
They could literally poop out a 5 minute long trailer of only showing off a single building with a character and people will eat it up like a 5 star meal.

This is the same fucking IP that was live streaming only a section of a forest for days until they showed the galarian variant of a Pokemon from KAAAANNTOOOOOOOOO for barely 10 seconds and that was consumed without problems.

You're overestimate the bar of standards, why would they raise it after managing to sink it so low?

>>56667294
>to prevent backlash like what happened with PLA and SV with the low framerate trailers.
Why not just prerender or fix the dips in post instead of pretending like nobody at a billion dollar company is capable of seeing frame dips? Any other company would happily bullshot this shit. Including Nintendo themselves with the BotW release.

>>56667268
What it sounds like is that the Pokémon company GameFreak and the Ashnime people all decided to start a collective promotion campaign with everything debuting alongside each other but something is going on at the Ashnime studio that’s ruining the marketing

>>56667325
>Sugimori expresses his frustration that the anime staff weren’t going to adapt the school despite its significance.
I don't think he has to worry about that anymore, the school was adapted pretty well. The only complaints I have is not all the teachers showed up and that Arven still hasn't gotten involved despite his importance to the main plot of SV. He appeared at least, but didn't speak a word.

>Ohmori also says that the synergy between the anime and SV has fallen apart, and it may be a wasted effort.
Not sure on that either, immediately after the school arc ended they booked it to Kitakami. Perrin, Briar, and Carmine are appearing. No sign of Kieran though.

>>56667275
Sprites had it's charme, and its own style, it wasn't bad in quality and performance, the games now are DECADES in the past in quality, hell Mario64 looks and runs better than modern Pokémon games, let alone the woke mental illness in gen9

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God I hate chinks...
They can be so retarded sometimes

>>56667325
>promotion may be ruined

Holy fuck they really are killing the franchise

Animefags never ever

>>56667340
>Animefags spreading misinformation
Anon, the anime was the least of the problems but they are always over exaggerating.

>>56667392
>but something is going on at the Ashnime studio that’s ruining the marketing
I think there was a leak saying that they're basically moving the plot by reception with Sugimori telling them to not do that

>>56667399
>Not sure on that either, immediately after the school arc ended they booked it to Kitakami.
Wait, they're already done with the base game content in the anime and are already in the dlc stuff?

>>56667330
If I learned something from marketing is that it's run by apes in suits and yes men in diapers

Even when there's something awful no one dares to criticize it, because you are criticizing everyone that worked on it.
Only the most seniors are allowed to have a final say, if they like it then it's good, if they don't you do what they say until they like it.

Problem being that Seniors are often bad at spotting mistakes, no one corrects them and you ship your ads as they told you to, if things go right it was the good eye and experience of the senior that lead to a harmonious workplace, if it failed everyone let down their senior and heads have to roll

That's the reason why I think we will get another Zelda tree, they will focus so much on making it prefect that it will be so edited it will make the phantom menace transitions look tame or too ambitious that people will notice frame issues and some chair or something floating to hyperfixate into.

Working in marketing sucks

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>>56667392
>but something is going on at the Ashnime studio that’s ruining the marketing
The evil organization's boss owns a shiny Zygarde. It sounds like this is the problem Gamefreak is having.

>>56667421
They're speed running the game plot, they will go back to Paldea later for the turtle plot tho

>>56667419
Yeah that’s in this document >>56667325


He says the horizons writers are writing the show as if it was a weekly manga and how retarded that is

>>56667421
Kinda sorta. Area Zero is an ongoing development, but they stopped by Paldea for a region tour for a while, challenging gym leaders as part of a school program to earn Tera Orbs. They completed this, so in pursuit of a particular Kleavor they headed to Kitakami to meet with Briar, who supposedly knows something about it.

>>56667404
>woke
Opinion discarded

>>56667443
Gamefreak really threw a tantrum because the anime thought of using Zygarde too? Aren't they having someone over there to ask them weekly for updates and shit? Sounds to me like Gamefreak wasn't exactly communicating well until it came down to it.

>>56667404
>it wasn't bad in quality and performance
yes it was

>>56667443
Wasn't zygarde already in the anime for years?

>>56667404
Based.

>>56667490
>Projecting

>>56667482
Seems more like the anime side was doing whatever the fuck they wanted and that's what messed things, they got rid of one autist to get into another mess

>>56667510
>no arguments
>o-oppinion discarded
aka (I can't accept I'm wrong)

>>56667502
I only had a problem with diamond/pearl walking speed.

>>56667524
I only had a problem with every single sprite in gen 5 being animated and scaled like shit.

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>>56667505
Yeah. During XY Bonney took care of a Zygarde Core, not knowing it was the legendary protector of Kalos. When it and the other Cores and Cells united into Zygarde Complete, Bonney was the one to order it to use Core Enforcer and kill Lysandre.

>>56667510
>buzzwords because waaah I lost!?
kek

>>56667524
The entire game was slow
They fixed it somewhat in Platinum though

>>56667523
>>no arguments
As opposed to your non-argument?

>>56667517
Honestly I have severe doubts about that. You would think that they would have weekly meetings to talk about this kind of stuff like using Pokemon for what character. And somehow gamefreak wasn't bringing up Zygarde beforehand at any point?

>>56667534
What are you quoting? i didn't say that

>>56667443

Why the hell does a villain team leader have Zygarde? Is this another Mewtwo case?

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>>56666358
That webm is exactly why I refused and will forever continue to refuse to watch that series since the first promotional poster showed unamed characters, but I'm not allowed to nootice.

>>56667517
I don't even think the anime doing its own thing is necessarily a bad thing, one common criticism is that Terapagos in the games is a non-entity, a plot device, while in the anime it's its own character. Gamefreak characterized the raidons and Ogerpon really well, so they dropped the ball on the crystal turtle.

>>56667564
This post reeks of shartyness

>>56667563
>Why the hell does a villain team leader have Zygarde?
Either to make him more menacing or to play up his mystery. The resident legendary Rayquaza is also shiny, seemingly perma-Terastallized, and knows Dragon Ascent so it hints it can Mega Evolve too.
One of the promo posters showed Liko and Roy battling it in its 50% form, so we'll see.

>>56667564
You're mad because unnamed background characters appear? Kinda weird, dude.

>>56667613
Don't confuse disgust with anger.

>>56667549
Maybe they did and just got ignored?

>>56667472
see >>56667564
unless you're a retarded leftist new world order retard.

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>>56667628
You're still feeling strongly over something inconsequential that doesn't matter. Really bizarre, dude.

>>56667648
>Nothing woke to see (whatever that buzzword means)
Woah...

>>56667564
>SONICS ARMS ARENT BLUE!!!

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>>56667404
>it wasn't bad in quali-

>>56667643
Anon, please think twice. They have those meetings to talk about something, Yajima literally went up to them to ask for a concept for Greninja and the relationship with his trainer while Shudo had Lugia which ended up getting used in the games. They would have mentioned getting ignored in the documents if that was the case.

>>56667723
>>troons
Headcanon
>>every character is ugly
How so?
>>body type 1-2 shit
Just like every games then?

>SV gets mentioned
>/pol/troons raid the thread
This board is fucking shit kys now

>>56666358
the anime has always been shit

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https://nitter.poast.org/hsinhsung9487/status/1779757018594541869#m
Wasn't that faggot getting put on blast for doing a worse job than fucking google translate?

>>56667834
LMAO

>>56667834
Yikes, this is actually cringe.

>>56667834
Shit like that is why I am demanding everytime I see a translation for a link to the original text. I hate when they are leaving out the Japanese so that no one can immediately check it

>>56667834
>Discordnigger can't translate
More news at 11

>>56667834
The translations were already confirmed by multiple anons in this thread you retard

>>56667941
>Dude trust me don't notice things

>>56667834
>Pages never mentioned the word "wild"
>Includes it anyway
Either that nigger had to come begging someone else afterwards to do the TL workload to then pass it off as his work or he hasn't learned at all. That faggot probably got an earful from his buddies that they had to factcheck shit themselves since screenshots of his ass are floating around of him not linking to the original files

>>56667834
I would kill myself if I did such a bad job that even a ESL has more integrity and transparency.

>>56667834
I would rather pay a translator than this shit.

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>>56665472
>It really doesn't the established audience is boys. Pokemon was meant to be cool not some uwu cutesy shit.
Where the fuck have you been for the past 5 years? Pokemon has a fuckhuge female audience of both fujoshits and normalfag females who make liking Eevee their entire personality. It hasn't been hurrdurr cool monsters since the 90s.

>>56665155
>planned for 2024
>announced 10 month ago for 2025
no, you are fanfcitionning a reason. It was delayed because scarlet violet was in an horrible state and they knew they can't do a yearly game anymore. That's the problem with tertiary, you think only the leak exists, outside of any sort of reality.

>Thread immediately slows down as soon as questions are risen about the TL quality and >>56667834
Kinda suspicious but eh I am not allowed to pay attention to things anyway. That caused the defenders to suddenly vanish.

>>56665854
who?

>>56665854
>>rent free in Sugimori’s head
...?

So this guy just post the "context" of things? No dumping of the meeting pages, no image dump of the designs. Nothing? Not even copypasting the conversations of the documents in the original language? Why are we allowing this? Years ago, anons were supposed to deliver this but now /vp/ eats everything up for quick clout? Not even five years were there anons who both provided the text for everyone to immediately see and cross-reference themselves. Fuck this.

>make shit up
>samefag
>300 replies

you guys need better hobbies

>>56665866
>Dai Soto
I'm surprised he's still doing E7 stuff after fucking it up that badly

>>56668656
This is the third time it happened with discord, mods should just ban threads with discord images on sight since they are low quality by default like they do with that Sabercord shit.

>>56665201
Hello pierre, stop phoneposting

>>56668632
>>56668656
>>56668685
NNNNOOOOOOO STOP SHITTING ON MY DISCORDBUDDY. FUCK OFF FUCK OFFF. YOU HAVE TO ONLY SEE THE GIST HE CLAIMED, NOBODY CARES ABOUT HAVING A CREDIBLE TRACK RECORD. NOBODY CARES ABOUT PROPERLY FILING AND REFERENCING, YOU ARE GONNA BE CONDITIONED TO BLINDLY TRUST DISCORDCHADS.

>>56668249
They buy infinite merch, too. And merch is the core of the franchise's profits. I now believe that they made the games super extra easy so women can play through them. Because women are awful at pokemon. I've seen them play on streams. FUCK they are retarded.

is there anything in the leaks about their reaction to anti amourshipper death threats?

>>56667704
Charizard cums fire.

>>56666998
>likonime forced GF to take their time and make a good game for once
the ashnime could never.

ZA being delayed can only be a good thing. Kalos was completely fucked the first time due to no dev time. Now they have time to make a good game. If they still manage to fuck it up we have proof that they're just shit devs and don't have their rushed schedule as an excuse. I can wait either way between Pokemon Essentials and the Pokeemerald decomp I have better games to play.

Captcha: JANKY

>>56671433
>Kalos was completely fucked the first time
No it wasn’t.

>>56671433
>implying they’re gonna use the extra time to polish ZA rather than just leave it be and continue working on a more important project (gen 10) instead
this Is gamefreak we are talking about.

>>56671470
The only battle facility is a battle tower, gym leaders E4 and champion don't have 3D models, the third legend just sits there in a cave, the level curve doesn't work with the exp share. I played it on launch right after BW2 and felt let down despite liking it. The champion really shouldn't be a png.

>>56671852
>The only battle facility is a battle tower,
That’s every game that isn’t a lazy rehash with virtually no other new content, and even then the Battle Tower has nearly double the amount of content Gen 4 and 5’s did.

>gym leaders E4 and champion don't have 3D models
…so?

>the third legend just sits there in a cave
Most legendaries just sit in caves.

>the level curve doesn't work with the exp share
The level curve doesn’t work in every game.

>The champion really shouldn't be a png
But it’s ok when the champion in BW2 is a png?

>>56665398
And so why didn't TPC and GF throw OLM into the sun?

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>>56665155
I can't even imagine working for the pokemon anime
>we have this story, let's try making it make sense
>someone at GF tell you out of the blue you need to add this pokemon and change the plot because we need build up for the future
Of course the anime is shit. Impossible to wrok like this

>>56671916
because they love money

>>56665155
You should've learnt by now that the anime bows to the real deal, not the other way around.

>>56671936
/thread holy shit. OLM is in the lower chain order, they are dependent on the Devs.

>>56665472
Pokémon is ours now. Time for you to escaperope

>>56666902
exactly, and this was in regards to Horizons

>>56665398
Cool fanfic. Too bad you can't prove it

>>56671889
>But it’s ok when the champion in BW2 is a png?
The DS didn't have the screen resolution or cart storage capacity to render 3D models worth looking at. The 3DS can and does render trainer models. Despite that Iris and literally every trainer in BW2 had fully animated sprites with significantly more frames of animation than Diantha's static png.

>>56672142
>The DS didn't have the screen resolution or cart storage capacity to render 3D models worth looking at
Play more video games.

>>56672146
Play KH 358 Days

>>56667226
Sugimori was talking about her relationship with her starter mon not standing out. He compared it to Ash and Pikachu, which people remember their first meeting till this day.

>>56665472
>Pokemon was meant to be cool not some uwu cutesy shit.
>Series mascot is literally an uwu cutesy mouse that was picked because it appealed to girls

You might be gay or a mentally stunted man child if you don’t think Pokémon was always uwu cutesy

>>56667564
>pic
That's scarlet and violet right? I didn't expect it to look that bad considering how bad SWSH already looked. I guess that's just gamefreak for you.