It's amazing how much XY was completely ROBBED of everything. We lost alot of cool pokemon designs, southern portion of the region, soar and dive mechanics, custom gyms, ditto village, etc. It could've seriously been a good game if they took their time with it.
I don't care. XY is still fun.
>>56670968we could have had it all if gen 5 hadn't flopped.apologize. now.
>>56670968>nooooooooo! why didint they put ugly boring digimons and unecessary features in the game?! we wuz so robbed!stfu bort
>>56670995gen 5 didn't flop doe
>>56670997>more content = unnecessary???
>>56670968>We lost alot of cool pokemon designsprevious gens had more designs cut>southern portion of the regionthey got moved to the northern part of the region>soar and dive mechanicsthese were meant for oras only>ditto villagepokemon village already exists in the game
>>56670980legitimately thisX&Y, even if it was rushed because making 600+ 3D models for prexisting pokemon was taxing as all hell, was still extremely fun.
>>56671013content bloat Is a bad thing, yes.
>>56671027>they got moved to the northern part of the regionNo, they didn't.>these were meant for oras onlyNo, they weren't.
>>56671044"content bloat" is cope for justifying low effort, barebone games.
>>56671047>No, they didn't.Yes, they did.Why would Battle Island need to exist if Battle Maison is already in Kiloude City?Why would Zygarde's dungeon need to exist if it got moved to after the 7th gym?Why would Pokemon Transporter area need to exist if they made Bank instead?>No, they weren't.Yes, they were.
>>56671072>Why would Battle Island need to exist if Battle Maison is already in Kiloude City?That's not the northern part of the region. That's closer to the south.
>>56671102Yes, and they moved it to Kiloude City.
>>56671120Nope, they only moved the battle tower portion of it.
>>56671148What exactly did you think the Battle Island was going to be, dumbfuck?
I'm 33 and have been playing since gen 1 and for whatever reason XY was the most fun I've ever had with the franchise, and I thought the models looked like shit compared to the sprites from BW (lol) initially. I think the good online really helped, interest in battling was much higher (this place had actual threads for it). Also the time showdown really got bigger.Sucks so much was cut, the games are dear to my heart.
>>56671159Why call it a "Battle Island" for one facility?
>>56671173>
>>56671066>watching Raichu use thunder 70 times is somehow good content
>>56671287>mashing A through the whole game is good content
>>56671287plass do be like dat
>>56671173He got you there.
>>56670980Having a blast
>>56670980Fpbp. Still one of the better Pokemon games.
>>56670980Nah. I tried replying it while a ago and gave up before Lumiose Gym, the game is boring as hell.
>ugly boring digimonsZard X and other mega forms already exist>unecessary featuresShiny locks already exist
>>56670980ThisAlso I am trans
I want SWSH leaks, I imagine the same shit happened.>first game on new console>have tons of cool ideas planned>developing on new hardware takes its toll and slows progress down more than expected>game ends up getting guttedThanks god the first Switch2 gen is getting more time.
>>56670968>>>>>>>>lot of cool mon designsdelusional
>>56671044There's literally no such thing as content bloat, you can just choose not to do the content you don't like.
>>56674377>There's literally no such thing as content bloatIn terms of development? Probably. Trying to design a bunch of minigame side modes like Rhyhorn Race and Custom Gyms and 3D Flight on top of everything else is probably why XY is so light on end content. At some point you have to decide what can stay, what can be pushed back.The only Pokemon games with that much content are the either 3rd Versions or DLC, because they get more time to work on the same game.
>>56670968it's BW2's fault for eating up resources and development time
>>56671235>most hated feature in the gameyou sure showed him
>>56670980but it could have been more fun
>>56677714>retarded fanfic disprovenYeah, I did.
>intentionally incomplete game>PSS now deadKalosperms eternally BTFO
reminder that ORAS is the Z version
>>56677845You can say this about literally every game in existence.BW2 would have been more fun if it had difficulty modes that actually worked, a proper Battle Frontier instead of just a nostalgia pandering version of the Battle Dome, berry farming actually put into the game, secret bases, contests, trainer customization, fewer retarded roadblocks, etc
proof that the dungeons were moved to the main maphttps://x.com/Zaenyxa/status/1846444859961348211
>>56677871>b-but unova toogotta love how this Is the only way kalosperms can defend their shovelware game
>>56677970Nah, we still missing a few routes and locations, even with that comparison.
>>56671160I'm glad you enjoyed the game but that doesn't make it good. That just means you have shit taste
>>56677871>BW2 would have been more fun if it had difficulty modes that actually workedthis was debunked
>>56678017>I-it totally got debunked goysYeah just like typedo alegations amarite
>>56677995I don't know why Kalos fans are so obsessed with Unova in particular. It's like they're programmed to not only hate Unova with every fiber of their being, but to also mention it everywhere they go and to scapegoat towards it every time Kalos ever gets even the slightest pushback by default. And they argue in such a catty way, too. It's strange.
>>56678001No we didn’t. The locations were just redundant. One location was just for the Pal Park equivalent which would obviously be pointless if bank exists. Another location was for a battle island which would obviously be pointless if the battle facility is in Kiloude City.
>>56678133>XY has 22 routes >”TH-THEY RUSHED THE GAME!!! WE WERE ROBBED!!”>BW2 has 22 routes>”wow this is the peak of the series Game Freak put so much effort into the game!!”>”wait why are you pointing out my retardedly inconsistent standards and poor understanding of how game dev works?”
>>56671368Least obvious underaged poster. Go back
>>56678192>>BW2 has 22 routes>>”wow this is the peak of the series Game Freak put so much effort into the game!!”Here's the problem, who gives a shit about any of that? This is a Kalos thread, not a trauma dump thread.
>>56678219>who gives a shit about any of that?you
>>56678229Who's you?
>>56670968I take it that Yawnfag has been hopping mad over the leaks
>>56678383the leaks have zero relevance to the quality of the game
True, super disappointed in the finalproduct.
>>56678400Right on cue, lmfao you are seething so hard
>>56678133>I don't know why Kalos fans are so obsessed with Unova in particular.Hating the DS games is the entire goal you see, no one actually cares about XY, surely not the so called """fans""" that are clearly more interested in DS discussion.
>>56678439Seething over what?
>>56674663>The only Pokemon games with that much content are the either 3rd Versions or DLC,You say that but look at how much content DP and BW had.
>>56678561Both of those games have less content than XY, so I have no clue what your point is.
>>56678573objectively wrong
>>56678561>BW>4 fewer routes than XY>no trainer customization>no super training>no amie>no pokeradar>no berry farming>smaller regional dex>triple battles and rotation battles barely fucking used>I'm supposed to think it has more content than XY because....reddit said so
>>56678192>BW2 has 22 routesBW2 also has routes that aren't actually called routes like the bridges for instance unlike XY not to mention they were longer in Gen 5 than they are in gen 6.
>>56678584>bw has 15 routes unlike XY which has 22
>2024>people are still replying to yawnfag
>>56678601>BW2 also has routes that aren't actually called routesYou mean like XY?>not to mention they were longer in Gen 5Gen 5 has multiple incredibly tiny routes, so no. This isn't true.
>>56678614>1 route = 1 content
>>56678629>one south kalos=1 content
>>56678661the routes in bw are more exciting
why is yawnfag obsessed with that shitty xy game atleast choose the good gen6game oras
>>56678687the fact that you can’t actually prove it’s shitty is probably why
>>56678627>You mean like XY?Anon, you are aware that makes the count 28 to 23 right? And yeah that's 6 routes in bridges alone >village >marvelous >driftveil>sky arrow>Marine tube>tubelineYou could also add the desert resort as a 7th for 29
>>56671044By your stupid gay logic lets go is the best game in the series because they removed all the "content bloat" pokemon from the game. I only played xy as long as i did because i wanted to complete the natinal dex because there was nothing else to do in the game other than run in circles around the poke Eiffel Tower to hatch eggs. fuck you!
>>56678700>the fact that you can’t actually prove it’s shitty>no habitat dex>second shortest game in the series>wasted route 1 by having zero encounters or trainers>lag when more than two pokemon are on screen>making powers time based and not item based>no entralink co-op>removal of in game events
>>56678700You can't explain why it's good either.
>>56678791>lies and things that don't detract from the gameSee?>>56678804>>56678598
>>56678814>XY is good because it's better than BWThat doesn't track, you think BW is a horrible game, you need a better argument than that.
>>56678903>you think BW is a horrible gamesource?
>>56678573>Both of those games have less content than XYNot really>DPTowerPost game islandContestsPal parkSealsUnderground/bases>BWEntralink Co opE4 rematchesSubwayBattle testEastern unovaSage HuntMusicalsPoketransfer minigame>XYMasionChateauTestAmie minigamesSuper trainingThat's also on top of the fact that XY has less areas than both.
>>56678814>lies and things that don't detract from the gameThey all detract from the game and none are lies but if you feel that way why don't you point out the lies.
>>56678948>if I leave out content there’s less content!Yeah true
>>56678948>E4 rematches>Sage Huntthis is now considered noteworthy content??
>>56679050anon you don’t understand, pressing Close Combat against Grimsely 5 times is truly engaging fun gameplay that suddenly makes the game good
>>56678980The only content left are the legends and XY is lacking there too only having 3 to find per game and I don't think you want to compare that to DP
>>56678627So are we counting the cold storage exterior and pwt exterior as routes too?
>>56679190And the other content you left out, yeah.
>>56677857Just like dream world :)
>>56679217The only difference is that there are methods in game to obtain HA mon
>unova is good because kalos is bad>kalos is good because unova is badWhy don't you guys talk about what you like instead of seething over a game that's 90% the same?
>>56679248You're new to yawnfag aren't you.
>>56679248These people don't play Pokemon they're here to shitpost
>>56679279You do the same thing as him.
>>56679244how?
>>56679050>>56679093NTA but you don't want to make that argument when the Battle Chateau reduces rematch teams to 2 for leaders and 3 for E4 members.
>>56679248>>unova is good because kalos is badThing is, nobody ever said this. When Unova fans defend their games, whether you agree with them or not, they usually bring up it's own merits. Meanwhile, I've never seen a Kalos fan ever defend their games without almost immediately deflecting to another region and changing the conversation. It's entirely one-sided.
>>56679327Hidden Grottoes and if you have it, the dream radar
>>56679343>When Unova fans defend their games, whether you agree with them or not, they usually bring up it's own merits.lol okay
>>56679340NTA but you do want to make that argument when XY’s postgame facility, the one places where battles actually matter instead of just mindlessly mashing A, has more content than BW’s.
>>56679359I'm glad you agree.
>>56679343>Unova fans defend their games, whether you agree with them or not, they usually bring up it's own meritsNo they don’t. They just screech about the game being LE PEAK repeatedly while failing to cite any specific examples of anything the game does that’s actually good.
>>56679387>No they don’t. They just screech about the game being LE PEAK repeatedlyDamn, that's the worst they do? Simply hype their games? Okay.
>>56679343Berry farming was at its peak, megas are based, the roller skates are better than the bike, decent designs, best online, friend safaris.
>>56679413>Damn, that's the worst they do? Simply don’t provide an argument?Yes.
>>56671044care to make a real life example? No, battle mechanics aren't "content" and they can indeed be overwhelming. Content bloat as in additional side experiences doesn't exist
>>56679387So what you're saying that they don't actually target Kalos like you do Unova?Glad we all agree
>>56679343Yawnie BTFO
>>56679429>Little jimmy: I love thing!>You: WHERE'S THE ARGUMENT!?See how silly you sound?
>>56679433>just put every spice and sauce you have on my toast, more content = better
>>56679387No, we know what happens when people talk about what they like with BW, you screech and say it's all shit or that XY does it better.
>>56679458Video games aren't food anon.
>>56679443Yes, I’m saying Unova fans don’t actually provide an argument to support their games while Kalos fans do. Glad we agree.
>>56679454It's silly to ask why someone loves something?
>>56679479I mean, you're currently in a thread proving that wrong since you still haven't made an argument as to why Kalos is good.
>>56679472>asks for real life example>complains that it isn't about a video gamekwab
>>56679485I'm pretty sure Unova fans usually say they love Unova because of the story, characters, b2w2 content and music. And before you start shitting on that, like I said before, it doesn't matter whether you agree with them or not.
>>56679506
>>56679528> I'm pretty sure Unova fans usually say they love Unova because of the story, characters, b2w2 content and musicWhile failing to cite anything specific about those things that make it good.
>>56679458>food analogy
>>56679502This anon did >>56679425
Hey yawnfag, me and some friends are meeting up on Saturday and we're going to play pokemon, what game do you think we chose?
>>56679550Not really he just picked a bunch of things petty much every game had and didn't explain why they're good.
>>56679549You should take a bullet and add some content to your brain.
>>56679541You just ignored that the last sentence, didn't you?
>>56679577No.
>>56679570If you've played the games you don't need to have them explained to you. You either agree or don't.
>>56679571You have no right to talk like that to anyone you subhuman pest.
>>56679601>>56679541
>>56678917lol I wasn't born yesterday yawn.
>>56679601In other words it's not good at all if a supposed fan can't even say why he likes it
>>56679631What are you going to do about it? Cry more on 4chan? Make your mommy proud and end your life.
>>56679645Okay, some other anon is a retard. Doesn't change the fact that it doesn't matter if you agree or not.
>>56679676>Okay, some other anon is a retard.Way to be mean to your fellow Kalosbro, anon.
>>56679702Way to get btfo and act like a submissive faggot.
>>56679649They're fun.
>>56679855Okay, and what makes them fun over the other games?
>>56679886The aforementioned list of things that are unique to gen 6.
>>56679931Which is just the rollerskates and friend safaris. Not a lot and the latter is now dead.
>>56680134How many unique things do you expect in a series with this amount of games? The designs are still good, the berry farming is still good, there's some cool routes and locations. They're fun games and everyone likes them, just accept that you're in the minority on this one.
>>56680259>and everyone likes themNot really, they're considered one of the worst games in the series among fans.
>>56671047>>they got moved to the northern part of the region>No, they didn't.Yes, they did. Most of them at least.>Southern Kalos had 7 landmarks>Northern Kalos had 6 fewer landmarks than the final versionAt most they removed 1 landmark that might perfectly have been deemed redundant or embedded inside a city.They did remove 1 city and 2 towns though, but then again, perhaps anything relevant they could have had may have been moved to northern Kalos.I still think they robbed us but less than it appears at first sight.
>>56670968do you guys know how easy it is to make your own pokemon game at this point? quit all the bitchin and moanin and band together to make a kino pokemon Z rom hack or something