>gets like 20 different plastic figures>gets like 5 alts in pokemon masters EX>TCG cards valued on the 5 digits*ruins your franchise and turns it into generic waifubait*What are your honest thoughts on Lillie?
>>56674764She was just Shauna but they remembered to not make her a 12 year old hooker.
cynthia mogged her
>>56674764I want to raw dick her
>>56674764Overrated
love herfinal pretty waifu of the franchise though
nobody cares lillie anymore cynthia is the supreme pokegirl
>>56674764Cute, but not the best Alola has to offer
>>56674764She’s trash.
>>56674764Annoying bitch who interrupts my Delcatty solo run with self-loathing nonsense.
She's fine but not my type
>>56674851God I wanna grab Anabel's ass through those pants.
>>56674764she's the reason trash like marnie or iono exist, for incels to spend their money onliterally turned pokemon into a gacha franchise
>>56674851Anabel is cute AF desu
>>56674764Good
>>56674764she's still the best heroine pokemon had to offer so far>>56676310>ionoiono is a elesa clone, kieran was the lillie of SV
>>56674842Cynthia is overrated.
>>56674764I RABU U RIRI-KUN
>>56674764seeing her everywhere and how much fellating she gets made me dislike her a little, like seeing a mcdonalds
>>56676378>iono is a elesa clone, kieran was the lillie of SVim not talking narratively but I wouldn't expect a lilliefag to understand
>>56676357both of them on your dick at once..
>>56676357Oyakodon
You're too late, OP! Nintendo's wanted this waifu for years!>*puffs cigar*The GameFREAKs --They knew waifus were good for the economy.Eight years later her legacy lingers on...
SEEEEEEEEXOOOO SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEXOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>56674764She's pretty cute and gets my PP Up
>>56674764She canonically farts, that's all that matters
>>56677895proof?
>>56674764Probably the single lowest-point of the Alola games. Hau "Malasadas Kid" is yet another of the sugary annoying nu-rivals, Gladeon being a total edgelord is entertaining, Lusamine isn't the best villain but at least she's eyecandy, Kukui is a cool enough professor, Guzma is /ourboi/, the Trial Captains and Kahunas are inoffensive enough and even Faba is the kind of ponpous dick you can't wait to beat down, but Lillie is a needy, incompetent, irritating and clingy stain on the games, even as kiddie as they are.
>>56678053Ah fuck, I forgot. There's also the best character in the game, which is of course the Masked Royal, but he was given far too little screentime and locked to basically a side mode that didn't matter too much.
>>56678104The Masked Royal is the hero we DON'T deserve.
>>56674764i fell in love with her when i was 14 and haven't been the same since
>>56674764I want to rape herhttps://files.catbox.moe/3dnt4y.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/8s7pbi.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/uprpo5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/wfu8y8.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0f31za.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/kf169k.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/rzbw84.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/bfvmvu.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/k9orsy.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/0ak5lv.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/6i53et.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/agl5on.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/kti68i.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/1fyua2.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/sy11e1.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ycwgf5.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/6fm8lm.png
>>56674764Shilllie a shit
>>56674764I like Lille, I'm glad she exists.
>>56674794Cynthia looked exactly like her at that age in an old photo I've seen in the anime.This means Lilly is growing up and becomes her mom, which us great because that's two waifus in one.
>>56678449I'm glad this guy got back to drawing porn of her.
>>56678465Lillie is already bustier than Lusamine.
>>56678513>Lillie becomes a bustier version of her mother
>>56678207What do you love about Lillie?
I want to bully Lillie into submission
>>56678641>long legs>long hair>wide hips>green eyesWhat's NOT to like?
>>56678641everything bro i wouldn't be the person i am now without her
>>56674764What's a realistic height for Lillie at that age if she grows up to be 6'5" tall?
>>56674764She's precious!
>>56678692I like her feet
>>56674764>>56678820My headcanon for Lillie
>>56678782That's pretty aspiring to hear, I bet you were crazy about her from having a lot of fantasies about her and everything.
>>56678502no... he's still drawing sfw stuff of her
>>56678692>wide hips[x] doubt
who?
>>56679000He recently drew some nurse Lillie porn tho.
>>56679000The new NSFW piece on Gelbooru are reposts.I like the version with the HUD elements.
>>56674764She's easily in Top 3 cutest pokegirls. Alola really has blessed us in that department.
>>56679817so he's not back at itdamn it
>>56679817>>56680216>danbooruHoly newfags. Protip: he doesn't post his NSFW art on Pixiv or Twitter, there's another website for porn art.
>>56680269don't group me together with him I knew he never went back to drawing lewds because I keep my eyes on his twitter, but I'm not brave enough to pay for his fanbox
>>56680317It ain't Fanbox either, bro doesn't paywall his porn unless it's a commission. I'm in a good mood so just look him up on Nijie and you'll see.
>>56680269I just assumed that that was where >>56678502got the idea that new lewds came out.Since that's where the reposts were at.
>>56680463Nah, all of the NSFW art came from nijie. On his Twitter profile, he even says he will only post sfw stuff on that account and hasn't updated his nijie account in forever.
>>56677745so, the main reason is MONEY, that's it.
>>56674764>What are your honest thoughts on Lillie?My favorite doujinshi series is the one where she's a trainee prostitute in a soapland working alongside Lana's mom
I miss when the human characters were just npcs dotted around as an excuse for you to have a tougher battle instead of them being literally center stage now and being advertised harder than the actual fucking pokemon
>>56674764She is cute and my wife.
>>56674764>*ruins your franchise and turns it into generic waifubait*SV ruined the franchise by pandering to trannies though
>>56674764The franchise was long gone by the time she was introduced
>>56674764RIRIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
>>56679005literally OP anon, the thigh gap in OP's pic can fit an entire ultra space. Official art btw.picrel is also official art, less of a thigh gap but notoriously fertile hips
>>56674764Honestly, one of the better characters introduced in this franchise. If they made her story optional and didn't force autists to read, I think she would be better regarded.
>>56680182Agree. Alola girls in general have such cute designs. I know the games themselves are controversial for being to handholdy but the characters are all great.
>>56674764Her mom is better
>>56681798Then nobody would have read it lmao.
>>56681290>and hasn't updated his nijie account in forever.You might want to check again.
>>56681611Fucking this
I wish I could molest her
>>56681952>battling nihilego>better
>>56681547And you can literally blame Lillie for that. No other NPC got the amount of merchandise she got and TPC wishes to strike gold again by forcing a different poster girl down our throats every game like they did with Marnie and Iono.
>>56674764She's cute and I enjoyed her role in S/M, I like her. I also like when artists draw her fat.
>>56681662Here her left limbs look shorter than the right ones for some reasonI won't stop doubting until they draw her _naked_ which will not happen until Gigaleak 3 in 2031
>>56681611This. I'd rather get "generic waifu bait" than ugly tranny shit. Atleast I got to look at cute girls in gen 7.
>>56674764It's been waifubait since Gen IV and the Ashnime with Dawn just accelerated the inevitable.
>>56683950Dawn didn't get half of the merchandise Lillie got, she was just a normal character. And Dawn isn't sold to lonely incels like Lillie or Marnie are.Nice try though.
>>56674764she's sweet, but she's no Serena
>>56683682bro..?
>>56684028honorary gen 5
>>56674764whats wrong with generic waifubait?
>>56674764One of the worst things from the crappy sumo games. Her "fans" are braindead.
>>56683976Yes, I won't deny that. Lillie was the point in which they legitimately said, "let's just roll with it".Also, in-retrospective it makes too much sense.She's going to have the good Lusamine qualities and physical appearance minus the turn-offs + being supportive of whatever you do. No wonder knees feel to the floor the moment US and then USUM released.
>>56684267I'm definitely 100% sure the reason the story was changed in USUM is so they can milk Lillie (and Lusamine to some extent) because she didn't leave for Kanto and her mother isn't semi-comatose. They would compromise the games if necessary if that means they can sell more figures.
>>56674764>turns it into generic waifubaitIt's been that way since Gen 1. There's a reason why Misty cosplay is inanely popular
>>56684331All they needed to do was some post-game thing where they came back.Maybe the logistics were still hazy.They didn't figure out how to do whole fucking DLC content until SV.
>>56684510Until SwSh you mean. And it's funny because apparently from the recent X/Y leaks there's placeholders for later updates, which could have been DLCs, so they were already trying to experiment with that.
Lillie is literally funding my retirement.
>>56674764I still laugh my ass off that they made Lusamine explicitly for waifubait and then her daughter that had barely an ounce of sex appeal besides being supportive of the MC outsold her merch by like 2.5 to 5x times and it keeps leaving her mom behind and every other female character in Pokemon history.
>>56684028I dropped her when GF decided to lump her with Crispin
>>56684586She's for Drayton, my brother.
>>566845413DS DLC content is usually super small stuff like outfits or single maps.Adding more Pokemon or something is relatively easy.But adding cutscenes and the extra dialogue on top of already existing data tables? That's a lot to chew on by itself. Lots of data.Cutscene dev is hard.
>>56684609that's worse tho, I don't like shipbaiting and having canon relationships just kills characters in my opinion
>>56684661I should clarify that "single maps" is, like, a single map in Fire Emblem: Awakening, for example.Not like a whole 3D space. That's an absolutely large demand.
>>56684731I am a "single map"
>>56686088what did anon mean by this
>>56674764I prefer her mom
>>56684578>they made Lusamine explicitly for waifubaitPlease cite your sources on this claim.
>>56684331They actually figured out what to do - in USUM it's him who hails to Kanto, and if you let a month pass IRL, he'll come back to challenge you, triggering a scene with Lusamine.They could have done that with Lillie without altering one ounce of the story, and even provide a Lusamine "waking up" scene, but didn't want to commit to Lillie suddenly appearing with a Champion level team. Gladion was more credible because he grew in power in parallel with you
>>56684564How so?
>>56686119He's a minor attracted person who's not in a relationship
>>56678820If her final height is 6'5, she'd already be 6'2 or 3 at 14. Growth tends to slow down later and female puberty tends to end around 15-16. Plus, sometimes tall folks frontload their growth, which is why you sometimes see 13 year old kids being 6'3 or some shit like Shaq's son
>>56689221That would have been neat as the postgame but alas.
>>56691333I kind of assumed Lillie was like possibly a year older than the Player Character 'cus of her height. Girls have their last huge growth spurt and outgrow boys around 10 to 12. Boys gradually grow taller, faster through to sometimes even when they hit 20.Also, her Z-Powered outfit legitimately makes her taller 'cus she's wearing platforms.Fucking stylish choice btw.
>>56691510What did they give her a tennis skirt though? As hot as it is I always found it weird since she isn't particularly athletic, and much less has mentioned liking tennis.
>>56691526Pleated skirts aren't just a tennis thing.But if I had to pick a reason, it's just because it's very body confident and Lillie's all about wanting to express herself.Also it just looks cute and she wants to impress the Player Character.
>>56691587I would understand it if it wasn't white with a light blue stroke, makes it seem especially "tennis-like", but I also understand it's just part of her, and Nihilego's for that matter, color scheme.>But if I had to pick a reason, it's just because it's very body confident and Lillie's all about wanting to express herself.>Also it just looks cute and she wants to impress the Player Character.That's adorable tho.
>>56691333Isn't she 11 or 12?
>>56691643then it'd depend on how far she's into puberty. Again, some tall mfers grow big FAST, so she could already be around 5'9 at 12
>>56689969He's a latinx patreon artist
She's a child.
>>56691510I always found it pretty hot that she heightmoggs Elio. Even when the franchise is about collecting world ending pets, this game really was wish fulfillment to the nth degree. Japanese man snags a tall Aryan goddess and travel Hawaii.
>>566747644 alts and a palette swap*
>>56691510Theres a whole trope in japan of >Girl taller than Boy>Meet again in 2 years and he is way taller than her Its really popular with femalesAlso, even some adult woman gets outsized by 14/15yo boys, I remember a nip artist saying she started to see young boys as "males" after they start to get bigger than her
waifus are the only good thing pokemon has to offer nowadays, and even then sv didn't give us that many
>>56691998Yes, and?
>>56676135>I dont dress up for your dick>I would pay for your body>Im opening an Onlyfans! This month 50% off launch sale
>>56689969Probably owns some Lillie merch. Her cards go for tens of thousands of dollars. Even her playmat goes for thousands. If you bought certain things of hers early on when they were relatively cheap, you could have made a fortune
>>56676357This drawing makes my dick go diamonds.
>>56674764She started the era of pedobaits, leaving aside more important things like gameplay and fun factor. It's annoying that the game puts a pedobait on camera every 5 minutes. It's all so forced, frivolous and shallow. So no, I don't have a good opinion of Lillie.
>>56674764>it's realIt's over.
>>56693629Why would it be a lie? Her cards have been graded highly since the first batch.
>>56674764She would have been full childhood waifu for me but I was already too old when Alola came out desu.
>>56693629At this price it's definitely over bloated by money laundering / wealthyfag risk management though.
>>56693461Correlation is not causation, they started dumbing the campaign battles down before Gen 7. And even the early game are easy if you use all the tools they give you. When I used X items for the first time in the GBA games I felt like a god. So on top of potions, legendaries, grinding, suboptimal NPCs, Shift mode, etc, now you start to get Mega Lucario, Mega Lati, etcSo you’d have to have a self-imposed ruleset to make ANY of the games challenging. Gen 7 is perfectly serviceable if you do so and also turn off EXP Share
>>56674764GF has been pushing your adventuring rivals/friends more and more since gen 5. Lillie just happened to be the one they caught lightning in a bottle with.
>>56693736>Lillie just happened to be the one they caught lightning in a bottle with.almost like giving a character the spotlight of the story would click with people more than giving them random one-liners every now and thenthey totally knew what they were doing
>>56693727>Gen 7 is perfectly serviceable if you do so and also turn off EXP ShareNo. Gen 7 is just to play 1 time and never come back. There are tons of interruptions , tons of dialogue, it's ridiculously linear and there is no exploration.
>>56693461I'm sorry if you're associating pre-teen characters as pedobait that's a you problem.
>>56674764Until Calia Menethil became plot relevant in WoW, LIllie was easily my least favorite video game character of all time. I can't think of a single more insufferable parasite. She does nothing to endear herself to you and is basically just a walking inconvenience. Hell her conflict in the main plot isn't even our fucking problem. Lusamine is literally sending herself into self-exile. If the player was allowed to just move on and ignore all the Aether shit nothing would fucking change.
>>56693461>She started the era of pedobaits,>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>56694178Pretty sure she was older than Ash and more in the hebephile area.
>>56694197Still bait for pedos watching the show, and continues to be pedobait with those sultry short shorts, exposed midriff, and armpits
>>56694086It's a bit ambiguous, to be honest. Lillie is a bit taller than a child (Selene, Lana) but that doesn't stop her from being a pedobait because she still gathers childish traits. Lillie NSFW art always emphasized the latter.
>>56694066Use the self-imposed rules for your first playthrough. I do that and I never play any Pokemon game more than once, unless it is a romhack. And personally, the only cutscene that killed me in SM was the one where Lusamine makes Nebby open the portal, since the romhack made that fight really hard (Lots of retries). Didn’t really have an issue otherwise
>>56694300>Lillie NSFW art always emphasized the latter.Not 100% sure about that, a lot of her NSFW art has her with huge breasts.
>>56693736They took N, morphed him into a barely pubescent blonde girl, made her as the game protagonist and put her in the anime instead of ChickenShe's the driving force of the entire 7th gen
>>56674764She proved to me that I should continue jerking off to underaged pokemon girls.
>>56694197All of Ash's female companions have been preteens ages around 10-12. So to all of a sudden start bitching about "pedobait" is disingenuous.
>>56694362Absolutely based.
>>56694220OS is an anime for kids, starring but neither Misty's body nor her personality reflect a child. Why do you think there are tons of lolicon of Lillie and Marnie? because they reflect tenderness and gentleness, something essential in pedobait.
>>56681547Little girls love Lillie
>>56694316You probably follow artists who put big breasts on everything that moves.
>>56694421Everyone loves cunny in one way or another though.
>>56694365>Since the anime says Misty, May, etc are 10 years old, then they are pedobaits even though their personalities and designs don't reflect a child.Stupid way of thinking.
>>56694403Marnie strikes me as aloof in SwSh, not really tender or innocent
>>56694492Marnie is not cold in a nasty way but cold in a tender way.
>>56684578Well, the game forces you into a very close relationship with Lillie to the point it feels manipulative. Then the game ends and Lillie leaves, many people felt depressed which shouldn't have happend. She is also way younger than Lusamine and the anime puts her into a bikini all 5 episodes. It was crafted to be addictive but they overdid it and changed things in the Ultra games to make it less creepy.
>>56694449Lillie is 13 and a pedophile in love with you the 10 year old MC
>>56694545That’s more or less what I meant. The point is that she is definitely not like>uwu pls help me :(She’s personally taken the burden of improving Spikemuth via becoming Champion. Pretty good potential for storytelling and character development but I don’t think they executed it well enough in SwSh
>>56692546???You ok anon?
>>56694492There is no single way to express tenderness and innocence. Lillie and Marnie address the same audience, but in different ways. That's why they monopolize the lolicon in Pokemon.
Pokemon girls are made by lolicons to lolicons Its not for you.
Literally who gives a shit about lolicons or not, the OP was talking about waifubait.
>>56694647Sure, but what specifically way is it in Marnie’s case that doesn’t apply to Misty/May etc?Also older characters can exhibit tenderness and innocence too. Do you mean naivety?
>>56694572>Lillie is [headcanon] and a [headcanon] [sh*pper headcanon] with you the [ashnimefag headcanon]ewww
>>56694300It's less the childishness and more the needing protection. She's a textbook damsel in distress
>>56674764She can join me in a threesome with Octillery
>>56694748The neat part is that she eventually finds inner strength by the end of the game
>>56694782~Character development~
>>56694695TraducciónYou don't seem to understand, tenderness is not exclusive to pedobaits. Marnie has gestures, postures, personality, design, that highlight innocence and tenderness, accompanied by a not so subtle eroticism. The same happens with Lillie.
>>56694811Her league outfit is pure sex.
>>56674764I don't understand the appeal. A Pokémon trainer who is too autistic to touch or train a Pokémon is just useless, and they already did that idea better with the kid in the Deoxys movie. Plus, Chicken-chan has infinitely better porn.
>>56694822It is indeed nice but it is pretty much what women wear to the gym in Burgerland, just with cooler colors
>>56694811>designThe dress maybe, but with the choice of hair, jacket and boots, I’m not really seeing it
>>56674764Uncanny resemblance to my gf
>>56694963When is she gonna release her Kanto vlogs?
>>56694811>TraducciónTodos los lolicones son Japaneses o son Hispanos.
>>56695646Sólo los más chingones saben apreciar las mejores cosas de la vida.
>>56694339Shouldn't it just be Lilliechu? Where does the -o- come in?
>>56694339>She's the driving force of the entire 7th genGood.
>>56695941(PokeMas) Lillie has breasts?!
I got tired of Lillie shilling when the anime leaks made it clear they’d let her win the Ashbowl if they ever do a timeskip with him
>>56695994Yes. Bigger than her mom's. >>56695793En eso si carnalito.
>>56674764Anon play the last 2 games it's one step away from being an otome game
Honestly every Pokemon game should have Lillie in it
>>56674764Who could guess.The cute anime girl sells while the not-so cute characters don't.
>>56696333or gayshit if you choose florian
>>56676310If Pokémon was a gacha we would have better character designs than SwSh or SV.
>>56676378True.I'm disappointed we never got to see what happened with her or Lusamine and no UsUm isn't canon it's a parallel universe.
>>56684677Incel
>>56680182SM was a game that you could see they were passionate about.The region feels very alive (for what usually was just blocks with grass and some houses back then)The character designs were good looking and the Pokédex is easily of the best they ever made.The biggest problem is the ETERNAL TUTORIAL and not hand-holding but HANDCUFFING.Alola had way more potential as a free roam region. But of course 3DS, wouldn't happen.
If you don't like Lillie you're a retarded homosexual, also has nothing to do with the quality of the games themselves.
>>56696517>BW1/2 were passionate projects>sold badly, negatively received>XY were rushed, cut content, and soulless >sells amazing, great praise>S&M/USUM are passion projects>sell like shit, widely criticized >SS are rushed and cut even more content, paywalling it and still not having all pokemon>record sales, beloved after the dlc>PLA is them wanting to try again, even if heavily constrained by a tight deadline >barely sells, no one cares>SV doubles down on the rushed, unfinished, and corporate slop aspect with absolutely no fucks given just visible contempt for the fans>sells almost as good as pokemaniaThis is the future we chose.
>>56696637I feel there was some passion in SV they just had little time a small team and they were making TWO entirely different games FOR THE SAME YEAR.It was Insanity.
>>56696706When the it gave you a panorama of a sub n64 landscape and praised how amazing it was, that feels like GF being glib about mocking their fans.
>>56695841I have no clue, probably done to make the idea extra stupid>>56695994Lillie's model has breasts in SM
>>56697441That's why she's our goddess
They should have modeled her panties
>>56698088She has the infamous void under her skirt right? Like every other character with a skirt I think.
>>56693629What card is this? I haven't seen it in my database.
>>56698129
>>56698129It's a super rare Japan exclusive promo card. You had to win a tournament and only had a one in three chance of pulling her.
fucking insane bullshit
>>56698282If I were a better man I'd buy the expensive Lillie card just to hotglue it
>>56698282Cute I wish this was me
>>56674851UNF
I want to impregnate Lillie with my children! I don’t care if I’m way older than her!
>>56698575How old are you?
>>56674764I dropped the series with XY, was this character that popular? Why?
>>56698922she's got a game for herself, focused more on her story than in the box legendaries
>>5669876536
>>56699183That is way older! You shouldn't have such dirty thoughts about Lillie like that! I bet you want to do disgusting acts with her!
>>56699231Not person you're replying to but I want to full all of lillies 3 major holes with semen.
>>56699325How badly?
>>56699390If I woke up in the pokemon world...... she'd have to watch her back even when she was sleeping.
>>56674764She's incredibly cute and always puts a smile on my face. Sometimes I kinda feel bad for blowing massive loads to her.
>>56699400>Sometimes I kinda feel bad for blowing massive loads to her.Why?
>>56699394Sounds like you're gonna go at it with Lillie all night...
>>56676388She's accurately rated but she's not Clair, Klara or Melony
>>56699427I literally don't know. I say I feel bad but I do it again anyway. Probably going to destroy my onahole to her tonight
Lillie a shit. Aslowla was already a mid game but having to babysit this wet blanket for nearly the entire game makes it miserable and completely unreplayable. I can’t imagine lilliefags unironically playing these games or they’d despise her too.
>>56700120Based. Got any favorite Lillie images or do you just fantasize about her?