It's incredible how many design philosophy changes can be traced back to the backlash against these games.
>>56764844Boomers only have themselves to blame
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>>56764844>there was backlash about the piss easy difficulty>gen 7+ has the hardest games in the series>there was backlash against the nonexistent exploration and constant railroading>gen 8+ has more exploration and nonlinearity>there was backlash against the constant tutorials>tutorials in gen 8+ are optional or very brief now>there was backlash against the terrible animations>gen 6+ has drastically higher quality context specific animations for all the pokemon>there was backlash against leaving out features to put them in the dream world>gen 6 and 7 put berry farming/secret bases in the actual gameshuh....you're right
>>56765556>Baby tier hallway simulators>gen 8 was literally a straight line the whole way through>Had to exclude gen6&7 from the tutorial part>Comparing 2D and 3D animations, as if gen 6+ don't have shit animations like tail whip or double kick.>Every single gen has been stripping features out since gen 6Gen 6+ have been a disaster. Despite it's faults gen 5 was not bad and everything since has been an over correction.
>>56764844this thread is going to be filled with cordial, intelligent and respectful discussion.
>>56765556hi yawnfag
>>56765617Brockbros-...
>>56764844>The last games to have a tighter regional dex>The last games to not overly pander as part of it's identity>The last games to introduce a sizable amount of NEW Pokemon>The last games to have a sizable postgamegrim
>>56765590>Every single gen has been stripping features out since gen 6Gen 5 doesn't even have proper berry growing. Got rid of good shit like Wifi Plaza, Got rid of following Pokemon and fucked up wifi battles.>You can plant in da D-Dream WorldYou never played that shit or else you would know the retarded restrictions it had. Wore than DPPt's transfer restriction. Dream World was ass. >as if gen 6+ don't have shit animations like tail whip or double kickAnon, my dear retard, the animations for double kick in Gen 6 is the same as it was in Gen 5. THAT'S what makes them bad. Meanwhile, we didn't even know how some parts of a Pokemon worked until they were in 3D because 2D twine animations re-used (whoops!) from Gen 4 just made them look uncanny.>Despite it's faults gen 5Despite it's *many* faults. Gen 7 aside, Gen 6 was just better. If you're a fag for 2deep4u stories then I have no idea why you feel stuck to a franchise like Pokemon to the point of seething about it for a fucking decade. Get a job. >>56765644>tighter regional dexWhat does this even mean? And you have to have Pokemon worth catching. >overly panderDamn so strange that Pokemon is pandering to Pokemon. You mean a region with it's own identity? In what way, the !Hitmonchan and !Hitmonlee or the !Zubat? Probably the !Machop!>new pokemonyou think quality is better than quantity and that should tell people everything they need to know.>sizable postgameWhich was even then a downgrade from the generation before it.
>>56765644>The last games to have repetitive wild encounters>The last games to lazily reskin old Pokemon while regurgitating Kanto's formula of collecting 8 badges to enter victory road to fight the elite 4 again>The last games to pad out the dex by throwing in a bunch of lazy copy/pasted designs>The last games to pointlessly lock and railroad content to after the creditsgrim indeed
>>56765664>What does this even mean?a regional dex that wasn't bloated with a dozen encounters per route, each route felt more meaningful as you steadily unlocked a handful of new lines, personal i think the switch gen strategy of throwing 50 lines at you right at the start isn't as fun.>Damn so strange that Pokemon is pandering to PokemonDon't be obtuse, stuff like "Charizard Bridge" that yawnfag brings up is nothing compared to getting a Kanto starter & all the other stuff i dont even need to get into.>!Hitmonchan and !Hitmonlee or the !Zubat? Probably the !Machop!They fulfill similar niches yes, it's obvious they "rebooted" a lot of old mons, but they look different, many have different typings, are based on different animals/myths, etc. Swoobat is probably the most egregious but even then it has a completely different movepool from Golbat and is Psychic/Flying rather than Poison/Flying>you think quality is better than quantityi'll assume you meant the inverse since i was praising the quantity, but I largely like most of the Unovamons, and even with its duds I definitely prefer it to the new "There's ~80 new Pokemon and 20 regional/mega/paradox/whatever other bullshit they cook up" don't act like Kalos/Alola/Galar/Paldea dexs are some bastion of quality in favor of quantity, plenty of shitters in those dexs too.>Which was even then a downgrade from the generation before it.Sure, but this doesn't keep me from criticizing the latter gens from continuing the trend and far worse at that.
>>56765556>>56765664Three. Bullets.
>>56764844In hindsight you just realize Junichi ran out of ideas and steam and it was never going to get better post-Gen IV no matter how much time and effort they'd put in to proceeding gens.