>we finally got confirmation that TPC actively avoid depicting anything that isn't a heterosexual relationshipThoughts?
>>56775483Then how come they've used yuribait in supplementary material for the last two gens?
>>56775483Dare I say, keyed and redbulled?
>>56775489That's headcanon anon
>>56775483Counter point
>>56775495Did Titanfolk and /snk/ win in the end? Nobody talks nor cares about AoT anymore.
>>56775483how about stopping making starters dominantly males
>>56775498Oversight
>>56775498trading and gifting are two different things
>>56775483Based.AGPtroons and homosexuals deserve it.
>>56775483Crazy how both chuddies and wokies got BTFO by these leaks
>>56775532giving doesn't mean gifting
>>56775489The word is there bait is there for a reason.
>>56775483Resetera will ignore this
>>56775535Chud here, tell me the bad news
>>56775498>Westerners are so gay-pornbrained they can't even comprehend platonic relationships foreverI bet nobody ITT realizes that gay marriage isn't even legal in Japan and has been rebuffed multiple times.
>>56775548Yeah, it’s actually Taiwan which is the most cucked nation of Asia, with Israel coming close second.Regards, HK Anon from /int/
>>56775483But muh DEI>>56775548relationship != mariage
>>56775548Thats just how trannies view 2 kids being friends. Must be lesbian or gay.
>>56775560based Taiwan>inb4 meltie about why gay marriage is bad while japan has a lower birhtrate than US
>>56775572Based chud destroyer
>>56775548Cope seethe and dilate KieranXjuliana is CANON
>>56775594Cute.
>>56775594enjoy your localization™ westie!~
>>56775531>https://youtu.be/WioLP0WqBt8?si=WyG1E5GgXjzPliA2 is this an oversight too copium anon?
>>56775610Thanks for your non-argument anon!
crispin loves laceylacey loves crispinamarys loves kierankieran and drayton loves MConly amarys is unhappy
>>56775643>crispin loves laceyYes>lacey loves crispinNo>amarys loves kieranYes>kieran and drayton loves MCYes/No, No.Kieran wanted to be friends, then was consumed by burning hatred. Then he lost that and just wanted to be friends again. Drayton just wanted to rub a defeat in Kieran's face and the MC was the only way to do that.
>>56775630Np.
>>56775617that's someone being worried about a friend
>>56775996>Being this naive
>>56775483>the cost of no canon yaoi is no canon yuriI can accept this. Fan stuff was already better at depicting relationships, fag or not
>>56775483Homosexual relationship implies sex, specfically not the baby making kind, so in child franchises characters of the same sex should just stay best/close friends.
>>56775483Good, why do fags need to exist in Pokémon? They don't reproduce and rape children to turn them gay.
>>56775498>Two different cultures >Traded not gifted
>>56776013Because it's problematic if they don't.
>>56776013That's priests and teachers
>>56776018If fags and trannies exist in Pokemon to avoid being "problematic", then allow me to remind you that the realistic reason the Team Star plotline happened is because they got bullied for being fags and trannies. Which implies bashing those demographics is canon to Pokemon.And knowing how Aus wants humans and Pokemon to reproduce together, it's no doubt the morally correct thing to do in the Pokemon World to put an end to homosexuality and trannyfaggotry.
>>56775548Both Internet Leftist and Rightist don't seem to understand that the reason Japan is stuck with Article 9 and no gay marriage is because they are stuck with a Constitution written by postwar Americans (with some Japanese input). And it is designed to be extremely hard to change.
The sample gay text in the OP raises a good point though, how do male only species keep existing? Are they all finding a Ditto?
>>56776223Male-only Pokemon have female counterparts but we can't tell them apart.
>>56776017Giving doesn't mean gifting
>>56776265If that were the case, then they would be Unknown Gender.No, the mystery of "How do male-only species thrive?" is one that will never be answered, because it's one of the few anomalies in the Pokemon world that justifies the continued existence of Pokemon researchers, even though everything's been thoroughly researched hundreds of years ago thanks to the "we've ALWAYS known about this" approach to worldbuilding.
>>56775483Good. What's the point of shoving degeneracy into a child video game series?Want to see some faggotry, then watch a fuckin' Pasolini movie. Not play Pokemon.
>>56775548the problem is that both the LBGT and normal people sexualize hard women and if two women are friends= they're fucking.nobody cares about homos thought.
>>56776289To be fair, it's a valid assumption. Women utterly despise other women normally because their primal DNA makes them register other women as competition, so if they're genuinely getting along, it has to be a romantic/sexual thing.
>>56776272Unironically the answer is "it's a kid's game, so don't think about it too hard" or "it's fantasy, so don't address it"
>>56775483Based Gamefreak promoting cisheteronormativity
>>56776272Gender unknown is for Pokemon that can't breed and artificial Pokemon. Male-only Pokemon can breed and they are not artificial, we just don't encounter the female variant in the wild. You're just a logic averse zoomer but when your favorite youtuber says the same thing I'm saying you'll agree.
>>56776308GF used to be based
>>56775483Pretty obvious. The only love allowed in a utopia is the purest kind of love. The one who can create life. A mix of two individuals. The crystallization of their love
>>56776269Both “giving” and “gifting” refer to the act of voluntarily transferring something (material or immaterial) to someone without expecting payment or compensation in return.
>>56776661And that's love of hermaphrodites!
>>56775483Fucking based, I love Pokemon now
>>56775643>Lacey loves CrispinLol, lmao, kek, rumao
>>56776831Lacey loves Crispin. She just does know it yet
>>56775643Crispin get off the internet
>>56775483What I find more hilarious is retards who make the "Bro Nintendo isn't TCPI/GameFreak" are now and forever blown the fuck out.
>>56776272There's a shitload of creatures out there where one gender exists to provide their genes and quickly expire, fish that change genders to fill in for there not being a dominant male/female, and others that don't actually bother to grow gonads until their last metamorphosis before dying. For all we know Hitmonchan in breeding season have a secret boxing tournament and 2nd place becomes the woman.
>>56775483>Thoughts?for once, based
>>56775483Keyed and redbulled.
>>56776319A number of gender unknown Pokémon aren't artificial and can breed.
Why are gamefreak being told what they can and can't do in their own creation? The only rules they would need to abide by is the rating system if they want it to be all ages in every country.
>>56777156moni
What's NOE?
>>56777899Notice of Erro
>>56777899Nintendo of Europe
>>56776018>Black villager: "Ooga ooga!"Bro I'm fucking DYING over here, holy KEK
>>56775483This doccument came from TPCi and NoE using examples of lines from the games they find troublesome. I thought western influence over Japanese developers was bad.
>>56778642It is. Japanese games have always played fast and loose with the depiction of non standard lifestyles especially cross-dressing and such. This shouldn't be something the Europeans can influence. Especially considering all the gay shit Europeans are usually ok with.
>>56776215From a logical standpoint it makes senseFrom a monetary point of view they know it will cost them money to add fags, America may love this nonsense or at least pretend they like it so they don't get fired but the rest of the world hates it and feels primordial disgust when they see it, especially in media aimed towards kidsThey know this will cost them money on a lot of places so they avoid it, they are quite smart to skirt around the issue by not even mentioning it
>>56775572Allowing gay marriage wouldn't help. Homosexuality breeds itself out of a species by not being able to breed and only spreads by grooming and influence.
Stunning that. A kid's series which never once acknowledged gays in their universe had people behind the scenes discussing how they should keep any alternative lifestyle presentations out of the kid's series. Almost as if they understand they make a series aimed at 7 year olds and not 27 year olds, thus such content would be unsuitable or irrelevant to the target demographic.Plenty of other gay games to grow up into dude. That's why Game Freak aren't interested in introducing it to kids now when it's all there for them when they turn the right age to be thinking of going gay.
>>56778851Except this is Americans and Europeans telling Game Freak what to remove using lines from ORAS as example
>>56775483My thoughts is that pokemon is very big and they want everyone to be able to enjoy the games so they make these games as sanitized as possible. The humans don't matter, pokemon do. Also post the whole fucking thing instead of copy pasting that centro.
>>56778851This. No idea how anyone is surprised. I guess there's enough schizos here who genuinely believed that SV is full of "LGBTs" or whatever.
>>56778878Actually funny that the only lines you can find in the games are the very last two. The rest I can't recall them at all, like they had to makeup problems Game Freak didn't even cause.
Nice fake document from an fan-made edited spreadsheet. Pokémon has gone DEI and woke
>>56778895Ah, speak of the devil.
>>56778870Yeah, because Japan doesn't have the mentality the west does.Meanwhile, /vp/ plays as the girl as adults and pretends that means they're straight. Hence why they had to ensure quality control, to prevent more of you fucking freaks joining the show.
>>56776215>If [HEADCANON], then allow me to remind you that the realistic reason the Team Star plotline happened is because [HEADCANON]. Which implies [HEADCANON]
>>56778851>A kid's series which never once acknowledged gays in their universeTechnically true, but they've acknowledged crossdressing A LOT, both in its early days and as recently as ORAS.I think it's more likely they avoid gay marriages in pokemon because it's still not actually legal in Japan.For comparison, there's no crossdressing laws. Hence why it IS in pokemon.THAT SAID, Nintendo (which mind you has a lot of canonically transgender characters like birdo and vivian), did announce it recognizes employees in same-sex partnerships as identical to opposite-sex marriages, in support of gay rights and in defiance of Japanese law.So if Nintendo ever decides to throw their 33% ownership of TCPi and undisclosed but markedly sizable stock control of GameFreak around, that may change. Depends how much of a fight Creatures Inc wants to put up about it if they do.
Acknowledging crossdressing is almost equivalent to acknowledging gays, Japanese gay culture is close to Okama culture. Okama (and the version for younger people otokonoko) culture is not only trans and drag queens, its actually mostly gay guys who do crossdressing. Even to date is not unusual to find a Japanese person who would not define a gay man as a man who likes men, but as a man who dresses like a woman and likes men. So when people see a crossdressing male character, a lot assume is gay.And gays existing is an uncontroversial opinion, only the most deranged netouyo which make for a tiny audience would be upset at their portrayal at all. Portraying them as citizens with fulfilling lives and equal rights is what makes conservative audience react, so marriage gets the axe they want to please everyone, even if its made legal it probably won't change anytime soon. Cohabition isn't illegal but gets the axe too because conservative audiences react the same, is still "teaching the lifestyle" or clashes with their idea of gay people being promiscuous and too immature to be homemakers.It still would be a silly decision because Japan is not very socially conservative regarding the subject of marriage equality and in several polls it has been revealed to be far more accepting than western countries we think as progressive including the US. Their problem is having a government ran by 90 year old men.But then again this order came from Nintendo of Europe, they are probably not thinking about Japan at all but about Polland or the UK.
>>56780106dang meant for >>56779048
>>56775498Oh I don't know, it could be because his signature Pokemon is Dipplin/Hydrapple? Also, it's a trade, not a gift, retard.
>>56775495This made me laugh for five minutes straight
Welp, with this leaked now and explicitly stated we're in a Tomadachi Life situation where people are going to bitch at Nintendo / The Pokemon Company to the point where Nintendo will (eventually) cave to reverse the bad PR. So basically next game expect explicit homo characters
>>56775543see >>56776018
>>56777899Natural Ormonius Eopius
>>56776168What sexuality are those priests retard? Most of them are faggots covering for eachother.
>>56781660straight people rape more
>>56776295>Women utterly despise other women normally because their primal DNA
>>56776018We need these lines in Pokemon clover
>>56775498>All the ABSOLUTE cope in the replies KWAB!
>>56776168Priest diddling is mostly man on boy. Expel the closet homosexuals from the Church and most of those scandals would disappear
Pokemon is in this odd space now where they can't make dialogue changes based on gender (See shauna and lillie) and yet also don't want to include any homosexuality that can't be easily removed for international release. So you end up in this strange limbo where everything feels vaguely homosexual, yet not. In my opinion, it's making all friendships in the game feel weird.
>>56782511As a bisexual, I fucking love it.Also, the thing is that they can "go further" like this. If it's gender specific, it becomes VERY obvious when a character is being flirtatious or whatever you wanna call it. But if it doesn't change, you can be like "No no, they're just friends, see? It's not because you're a girl/boy!" Basically, you avoid calling attention to it, cause people will definitely notice when the dialogue alters.And it's not like they're wrong, there's a fine line between good friendship and romantic closeness. There's nothing inherently wrong with being a bit ambiguous there, anyway.
>>56782511Shauna and Lillie felt backwards anyways because N feels like romantic intent specially in BW2 but he didn't get gender specific dialogue. In BW2 Rosa's playthrough references Hilber and vice versa, but there's also the Memory Link feature, so they had chances.
>>56782511the easiest solution would just be to stop romantically charging friend relationships.>>56782635>If it's gender specific, it becomes VERY obvious when a character is being flirtatious or whatever you wanna call it.I would suggest that both May and Brendan's dialogues are flirtatious, they just each do it in a way that's specific to their gender.>there's a fine line between good friendship and romantic closeness.if that were true, the friendzone wouldn't be such a meme.
>>56782145no no, he's got a point, women get INSANELY catty with each other the moment one of them sees another as competition.There was an attempt to start an all-woman workplace out in california, like a talent agency or something i don't quite remember but the idea was to "get away from men's misogyny," and it immediately devolved into constant catfighting and only lasted like 3 months.or if you want another example,https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nO3_swePVs
>>56783369>I would suggest that both May and Brendan's dialogues are flirtatious, they just each do it in a way that's specific to their gender.That only works because they are opposite gendered MC. You can't meet both May and Brendan. So this doesn't work for characters like Lillie.>if that were true, the friendzone wouldn't be such a meme."The friendzone" is a big meme because immature horny teenagers whined about it happening to them. Outside of dating app bullshit, the majority of relationships start as friendships.
>>56783481>Outside of dating app bullshit, the majority of relationships start as friendships.that's not the gist i get from listening to women talk to each other.
>>56783432not even the only time that survivor thing has been done, and it's basically the same conclusion every time lmaohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNApPTtUKoQ
>>56778658>>56778851>non-standard>alternativeThe correct term is immoral and unnatural lifestyle. Who are you trying to pretend disease of hypersexuality is normal?
>>56776221No, what you don't understand is that Japan is not a liberal society. The Japanese legit do not care about liberal rights, and the constitution is basically Americans forcing liberal rights on Japanese. When I am talking about liberal rights, I am explicitly referring to liberalism, the political philosophy that emerged from the enlightenment. It is a uniquely Western European thought process, and the vast majority of Westerners, regardless of which side of politics they are, are religious believers of liberalism and have taken for granted and make numerous assumption about the world and even base their moral principles on liberal precepts. Assumptions and moral principles the Japanese do not hold. That is why Japan has essentially been a one party state for over 40 years despite being a liberal democracy.If Japan ever breaks free from American influence, it would be treated as a pariah as other non-liberal societies like Russia and China because it would immediately reconstruct their society around natural assumptions and moral perception and most progressive would have such a deep hatred of Japan, they'll be wanting them to all die, which is the same attitude they had about Japan before 1945. So its funny you think the reason why Japan has never legalized gay marriage, is because of the US constitution, when in reality, American liberalism is the only reason the concept of "gay marriage" even exists
How much more leaks are there?
>>56779048>>56780106Alright westerner, stop lying about Japan. You know nothing about Japan, but you are so narcissistic your projecting your beliefs on Japan.Japan has always hated homosexuals. The West has always been more tolerant of homosexuals. This has been true since the 1960s. Why do you think Japan tolerates homosexual and transgenders? Oh right, because Westerners cannot segregate fantasy from reality, so when you saw a crossdresser or a homosexual in a 1980s Japanese children cartoon, you think Japan is okay with homosexuality, because you don't see that in 1980s American children cartoon.Because you cannot segregate fantasy from reality and you think its inclusion in Japanese media, you think it some "advocacy" or "proof of acceptance" in Japanese society. It never seemed to cross your mind, that its fantasy, and the reason its there is not because Japan wants people to accept them, but because its fantasy. Crossdressers and gays are fantasy, so sometimes the author likes to explore it in fantastical plots that aren't real. This is also true with themes or rape and lolicon and violence in Japanese hentai. They have a mature segregation of fantasy, but with westerners, you get offended by it because you think its advocacy for it in real life. Its not, and the same is true with homosexuality in Japanese media. Something you don't seem to understand.And thats why you see Japanese consume fiction with "crossdresser", but then in real life, don't give a shit about any crossdresser advocacy and why many would become hostile to suggest it should be accepted in real life. Your entire post is wrong, because its built on a false premise caused your inability to segregate fantasy from reality.
>>56779048>>56780106>>56780112If I were an open homosexual, where would I want to live? 90s US or 90s Japan? Well, because you cannot segregate fiction from reality and you see homosexuality in Sailor Moon, you would say 90s Japan. Ridiculous. Being an open homo in 90s US is better because the US tolerates it in real life. In 90s Japan, most Japanese would hate me just for being open about it because Japanese culture inherently isn't okay with being a flamboyant disruptive member of society. They are not okay with the nail that sticks out. The West is completely okay with it under individualism and for being a shitty person about it as long as I don't "hurt" anyone. There would also be no laws to protect me for being flamboyant about it in Japan, employers who see that shit at work could fire you. Even 90s US, there were laws in place that would have prevented an employee from firing a homosexual for being annoying. In 90s US, there were even gay neighborhoods were you could be a complete open degenerate and have sex and drugs with no one to punish you for it. There was nothing like that in 1990s Japan, except if you go to fringe underground circles. You act like the Okama culture is some well known thing in Japan, when its just a fringe thing most normalfags would be unaware, akin to the furry culture.In 1990s Japan, there were no real legal protection for being a homosexual, and there were no organizations to protect you from discrimination In Japan, if you wanted to be a transgender, the government mandated it sterilizes you, something that I doubt even a US state could get away with in the 1990s without some activist group stopping it, and despite an entire generation of Japanese growing up on fiction that you think advocates for transgender, many Japanese citizens never saw anything wrong with it and it takes Western influence to start forcing Japan to change its rules.But hur, there is a crossdresser joke in Pokemon, Japan is progressive.
>>56779048>>56780106And one more final note for this midwit, no you retard, the average Japanese person defines a gay man as a man who likes man. When Gamefreak includes a crossdresser joke in a Pokemon game, its not some arcane mystical Japanese philosophy about tolerance for crossdresser, its a fucking joke.Its funny how progressives acknowledge that the Japanese are different from Americans, but then invent this entire aspect about their culture, actively try to treat it as obtuse and mystical, as if the Japanese were fucking aliens. Oh, Japan is actually not socially conservative about marriage equality, except let me talk about how they are.All because you cannot segregate fiction from reality, and you are not the only westerner with this problem. Even now, as you are forcing homosexuals into Western cartoon, one cannot help but find it unsettling, even to morons like you who still prefer Japanese media and you wanna know why? Its because with Westerners, inclusion of homosexuals in Western cartoons is ALWAYS about advocacy for it in real life. Its not about fantasy, its not about appealing to a certain tastes. What matter primarily is real life. Not the story, not the characters, but that it checks off a checklist of appropriate depiction for tolerance in reality. Its advocacy. It is directly linked to real life. It breaks down the segregation between reality and fantasy, so you should depict political flags like the rainbow flag or the transflag. You Westerners have basically crossed the line in a way Japanese media for children NEVER did.There is a book called the history of anime and manga, that has a passage from some mangaka artist from the 70s and her female readership who enjoy some 70s shojo magazine with homosexual themes. When asked about it, they explain they enjoy it because its a fantastical exploration of something that cannot happen in real life. That sums this whole post up, the Japanese can segregate fantasy and fiction from reality
>>56784969>>56785070>>56785170>>56785261tl;drywnbj
>>56775489Rightoids legit think that lesbomancy isn't homosexual.
>>56776018>Black villager: Ooga ooga!KEKEEKKKK
