Why does this board care way more about the humans than the Pokémon? That's supposed to be the main point of Pokémon, the fucking Pokémon.
>>56790459Because they play Pokémon Masters EX OP. A gacha slop prioritising humans over their pets.
>>56790459Humans get just as much focus in Gens 5 and 7-9.
no one but a handful of child molesters give a fuck about the humans. They just flood the catalog with their generals and then circle-jerk and bump each other's human threads
>>56790459Because they wanna be Lysandre but all the ugliness they see in the world is either based on Pokemon they dislike or someone's ethnicity
>>56790459I care more about the Pokemon. The humans are just extensions of the Pokemon for me. The people that care more about the humans are usually dumb coomers, but that's not to say there aren't of course furries and whatever that think the same way of the Pokemon, but it's just an observation that the ones that focus more on humans are really only here for what they could be doing instead in most other franchises what with overfocusing on how attracted they are to them.
>>56790483I have 50 of them filtered out automatically yet they continue to intentionally evade them to remind us of how sad their lives are. It's fucking pathetic.
>>56790459Because the ACTUAL FUCKING games stopped caring about the Pokémon gens ago. And the games in general are just half-assed shit, so yeah, people will just care about the porn/humans now.
>>56790511Just because you think the games stop caring about the Pokemon doesn't mean everyone should. We're always saying Gamefreak is making the wrong decisions? Well this is one of them.
>>56790465This.>>56790483>>56790506I try to talk about individual Pokémon.
>>56790459>fucking PokémonWell we have pokephilia threads
>>56790522I'm not saying people SHOULD, but it's the most obvious and direct consequence. A franchise can't be kept on life support forever, eventually it'll devolve into the lowest standards for posting. Quality fans will just go elsewhere as people play in their shit-filled pigsty.
Because the humans can actually talk to you and have character arcs
>>56790459Since this is /vp/, you mean Pokemon fucking>>56790539Bingo
>>56790539So little compared to human waifufaggotry.
>>56790459Because the franchise itself cares more about the humans than the Pokemon, as seen in the Teraleak.
>>56790459Besides the bait poltards threads we pretty much talk only about what Pokémon we'd like to fuck, the only reason that's stopped is because we can't post what we really wanna post.Porn.
>>56790511>stopped caring about the Pokémon gens agoDefinitely untrue, you're just desensitized or don't acknowledge the Pokemon focus for whatever reason. If they stopped caring about the Pokemon they wouldn't be introducing new gimmicks and variants and textures and elements of immersion for them. If they stopped caring about them they wouldn't bother to do things like giving Mandibuzz its own nest in ID or giving custom swim animations to certain Pokemon like Blastoise and Paldean Tauros-Aqua. To gloss over considerations like these is to live in a bubble that makes it seem like you only pay attention to things that support your own pre-established agenda, or perhaps one that was manufactured for you to buy into by outrage specialists.
>>56790586>/vp/ still isn't a red board even though the only content posted on this board that isn't ragebaiting or genwarring is softcore pornography because /trash/ exists>but /trash/ is too active for niche individual threads thanks to all the BLACKEDcucks and gooners, thus meaning Pokemon threads have to crossover and become nothing more than rapid-fire image dumps of the same folders over and over again just so they aren't pushed out by the other hyperactive threads until bump limit forces them out
>>56790597>conveniently ignores that the central focus in every story is the humansThey even went out of their way to make the new legendaries just dumb pet vehicles, they clearly do not give a fuck anymore. You can cope all you like, but adding small details to the world isn't "focus".
>>56790465It's sad how a Mobile gacha game is the only one to give canonical voices to characters, even when they would never appear in anime.>"No no but text dialog is enough because we want people to imagine characters voices"Fuck you GameFreak, you cheapskates.That long non-stop character exposition in Area Zero could been so great, but instead if you take your eyes 0.1 seconds they start to talk about sandwiches.
>>56790621You're a corporate slave that played scat and vomit, so it's no real surprise you'd be retarded enough to want voices forced into the game.
>>56790630No need to show your fetishes, anon.
>>56790612I didn't ignore anything. I was talking about your insistence that they stopped caring about the Pokemon. Maybe you don't realize this, but you can increase how much you do with humans without abandoning the Pokemon. To say they don't care just because they wanted to do a new approach for the NINTH generation of Pokemon is to be really close-minded considering it's expected they'll be throwing a lot of different things as we get more and more games.
>>56790621Voice acting is trash, you losers want to bog the games down with unnecessary shit that'd just cause more complaining because they won't always shell out for the best VAs. Pokken had VAs and many people muted it because it was awful. Masters does VAing because it's a hollow game with barely anything to offer that had to even issue an apology letter to the playerbase in its first month online, and has its own share of awful voices.
>>56790611It's a blue board in name only. No it's not full on porn but it's definitely not SFW.>Why are you viewing it at work?I'm not, I'm saying that's the purpose of blue boards. The moderators let it get this bad.
>>56790687People love to ignore the fact that GameFreak, if forced to include voice acting, will go for the absolute cheapest option possible by making its cast consist entirely of Z-listers from within TPC and TPCi, so the quality of the voice acting will be absolute dogshit.Not only that, knowing how archaic the company is, they'll probably make it so you can't skip dialogue until the voice line is done playing, making the game horribly sluggish, or that you can't separate text language from voice language, so good fucking luck playing in English with a bunch of unskippable shitters following TPCi's infamous voice directions.
>>56790459Because the jannies and the mods allow it. If this were /v/ 3/4 of these pokegirls coomer threads would be banned ages ago but since /vp/ mods are coomers themselves we always have 50 porn generals on the board at all time including literal fetish threads like the goddess thread and the giantess thread
>>56790713>they'll probably make it so you can't skip dialogue until the voice line is done playing, making the game horribly sluggishI fully expect that. They'd feel like they went out of their way to add it so they wouldn't want it wasted. People beg for something without realizing what the real repercussions would turn out to be.
>>56790733/vp/ is a literal containment board, its purpose is to spare /v/ in the first place
>>56790751This containment board needs its own containment board.
>>56790751>Containment boardNo it isn't. If it was, posting Pokemon outside of this board would be a banneable offense while it isn't.
>>56790459because the pokemon themselves are becoming a secondary aspect in the games, both main and side. Plus, pokegirls are cute.
>>56790871The conversations about the Pokémon games are also better on other boards. Here people are so quick to mention what they jack off to and derail regardless if it's related to the subject. Also the OP who post coom shit but the topic has absolutely nothing to do with that picture, and quickly devolves into how it makes people horny. I just wish people would have something else to discuss besides wanting to fuck fictional cartoon characters. But they rarely allow us to talk about literally anything else.
>>56790922Because coomposting is the only way to deter ragebaiting, genwarring and schizoposting, which are the other plagues of the board that prevent genuine discussion.
>>56790933All of those aren't nearly as annoying as>TEEHEE POKEGIRL MAKES MY PP HARD HER FEET IMAGINE THE SMELLJust shut the fuck up.
>>56790986They obviously are more annoying.
>>56790933>schizopostingWaifufags are this.>genwarringConversations about the games. >ragebaitingWaifufag derailers do this all the time.
>>56790565Nigger there's an active gardevoir general
>>56791023>Conversations about the games.You mean disingenuous shitflinging over the same tired talking points (muh berries, muh fishing, muh "Where can I [Thing] in [Game]?", etc.) that have been argued to death for the past half decade, AKA when Yawnie first made his rounds on /vp/?Three bullets all for him, by the way.
>>56791037And they always say the same"Old game good new game bad" and it's the same as each gen keeps going.
>>56790459cope homo
>>56791033Oh wow, 1 whole thread compared to 50 active waifufag threads.
>>56791065I have sex with real women, not obsessed with fapping to cartoon girls and being obnoxious as fuck about it, virgin.
>>56791054Every waifufag thread is exactly the same yet occupies more than 1/3 of this board. At least you can say "Gen is bad because..."
>>56791023>Conversations about the gameAh yes like "wow [game]fags are having a meltdown" and "not really"Three bullets and an industrial furnace
>>56791108Even that exchange has more substance than a waifufag thread that reached bump limit.
>>56790713>still no button to press or hold to fast-forward through dialog boxes that don't have a selection prompt>still no dialog auto-advance>still no button to pause cinematic cutscenes>skipping cinematic cutscenes in Gen 8+ must be toggled in the menu, automatically skips them, and sometimes doesn't even work>can't change the text language at all despite spin-offs letting you because of the "language of origin" valueThey would totally have the audio language tied to text language with no way to turn voice acting off and a big reason why they haven't added voice acting yet is so they don't have to do it for every supported language.
>>56790871>posting Pokemon outside of this board would be a banneable offense while it isn'tIt doesn't have to be for it to be a containment board. The point is to stop flooding /v/ with as many threads, not to completely prevent it.
>>56791065cope pedo
>>56791299Now if only people would start talking about Pokémon on /vp/
>>56791417>try to talk about the games>turns into genwars>try to talk about the anime>turns into waifufaggotry + ashschizos shitting their pants>try to talk about spinoffs>no one cares or ragebaits with "dead spinoff series lmao">try to talk about the TCG>no one cares>try to talk about romhacks or fangames>tranny drama>try to talk about other Pokemon shows>no one cares
>>56791417People do talk about Pokemon. It's just that it's not some easy feat to get fresh discussion about Pokemon day after day, month after month, year after year that can last. Reasonable threads have an endpoint and the book is closed on them. You know what doesn't have an endpoint? Warring, complaining, and drugging (i.e. coomposting/stimulating your own dopamine/serotonin releases). The problem then becomes that the people accustomed to talking about such things think it's their place and right to drown out any kind of real discussion, feeding into the already fleeting nature of that real discussion.
>>56791432Good
>>56791432If the mods actually upheld the rules:>Furry or fetish Image>Not work safe image on work safe board.>Participating or instigating a flame war>This post is off-topic>Furry/guro/lolicon/shota porn outside of /b/>This post is extremely low quality>Spamming/flooding>Intentionally evading spam/post filters>Post all Pokégirl hentai to /h/.>Do not incite genwars.>Please respect global rules 3 and 5—no non-work safe or "furry" material should be posted on this board.Then maybe this board wouldn't be like this.
>>56790459The fucking people behind the ip or even pitching new ideas care more about the humans than the pokemon.For gods sake even Game Freak who has been trying to turn Pokemon into really shitty kiddy Persona had to shitcan some pitch that was gonna be about some stupid cyberbullying story which probably had little to do with Pokemon.
>>56791645??? looks like multiple viewpoints, in your pic iwao is literally in favor of more pokemon focus
>>56791662Because Iwao noted that the pitch from TPC went TOO FAR, the mainline games themselves have focused far more on the human aspects like the shitty bullying plot in SV. Plus him and Sugimori might be a few voices that don't like the human focus, the rest of Game Freak probably does want shitty Persona.
>>56791645>I don't care about the truth behind someone's deathI'd love context for this...
How would you make a good story focused more on Pokemon than humans while keeping Pokemon unable to talk?
>>56791680it feels like the only reason they care to run to humans is that they keep making new pokemon look like dogshit that people don't want to look at, so they make them look more at the humans insteadthe starters in particular get grosser and grosser when they should be the easiest on the eyes out of the entire dex
>>56791711TPC wanted to make a movie targetted at fujos about two boys investigating the deaths of their friends who got cyberbullied.
>>56791744Say what you want about Gamefreak, but at least they turned that irreverent shit down.
>>56791774...And then used almost that exact plot for Team Star and filled their game to the brim with fujobait
>>56791744Thank goodness GF rejected that shit, Sugimori's "I don't care" is incredibly understated
>>56791784>fujobaitFujobait that actually involved pokemon unlike what TPC pitched where absolutely nothing about the premise needed pokemon to exist.
>>56790511Did older gens care that much about the Pokemon though? I'd argue that characters like Nebby and Koraidon/Miraidon give at least some Pokemon more memorability and development than any individual Pokemon ever got in older games.
>>56790459It's because there's not enough fuckable pokemon.
>>56791836Pokemon went from being species to individual characters like nebby or the jobmonsThey"re less interesting as a result so we focus on the trainers
>>56790459Dunno but i never have less than 30 filtered threads at all times. Sometimes 50.
I don't care about 98% of new shitmons so the only thing worth discussing is the cute girls and collect waifu cards.
>>56792015>I can only talk about things that make me horny.
>>56790459I do though?
>>56790459>post about "the fucking pokemon">Get told not to post about the fucking pokemonYou fags are insufferable.
>humans are bad>pokemon are the thing you should be talking about>... stop talking about humans!
>>56790459Whos we?
>>56790459Generals have dedicated posters while random discussion doesn't.Switch pokemon killed the franchise for some so they started to only see it as a source for pokegirl design and Showdown updates.Anyone who isn't a spinoff fan, leakposter, human lewdposter, masochist anti-lewdposter or genwarrior just quietly went elsewhere playing old games, rom hacks or non-pokemon stuff quietly>>56790465>>56790527Barely anyone plays Masters though, it's a flop game>>56790621>Mobile gacha game is the only one to give canonical voices to charactersAnd it's part of what killed itThey should have spent these millions on fixing the abyssal menu performance (literally worse than 3D sections) and stopping asset flipping / palette swapping instead of filling Yuji Kaji's and Rica Matsumoto's fat bellies
maybe if they stopped making 100+ slopmons every two years i would care more about them
>>56794226It's hilarious whenever there's a chat/video/live/etc reaction to Masters the audience is either quiet or groaning or waiting for it to pass to get to the next segment. It's sad that Pokemon partnered up with such a lazy low effort company. The only thing Masters will be remembered for after it's gone is the outfits yet they like to cut corners on them too much where they can like in your webm so it's not going to be that expansive of a legacy.
>>56790459>That's supposed to be the main point of Pokémon, the fucking PokémonYes and who trains those Pokemon, especially us the self-insert main characters? If we're talking mainline games and not sideshit like Mystery Dungeon then it's humans. And yes they even train the "fucking Pokemon" (aka Pokemon built for fucking) you coomerzoomer
>>56794266When Masters news gets on Presents, its players already know about all/most of it from datamine or dev reports since days, and other people mostly don't care at all so it's usually not news for anyoneMight be different outside of English-speaking fanbase though as for example Japan usually doesn't check out datamines for legal/moral reasons>It's sad that Pokemon partnered up with such a lazy low effort company.Looks like TPC considered it good enough since TCG Pocket is still made by DeNA, with even stronger partnership since a joint venture has been established between the two, just for this game
>>56792026Ogerpon and the Loyal Three suffer from this the worst, even their internal stats scream characters, not species.
>>56792026>>56795136YupThese are characters from a low budget 3D cartoons
>>56795200And these are individuals from different species who happen to have character because they've been tamedPokemon has become Digimon.I love digimon but the focus from the fanbase has always been, ironically, the humans, because the digimon themselves have weird designs and are more like "characters" than "monsters"The same thing is happening in Pokemon except its worse since the pokemon can't even talk
>>56790459because pedos come here instead of /trash/ for validation
Because /vp/edos are so autistic that they specifically need to be with other Pokemon fans otherwise they cant fap. I tried asking a Marniepedo once why he didn't simply go on >>>/e/ and he said that "THAT BOARD DOESN'T APPRECIATE MARNIE AS MUCH AS I DO!!!!!1". Jesus fucking christ, not even Chris Chan was that autistic
>>56795136Aren't they all unique characters and not species? Ogerpon is the only orange juice imp thing that had special masks made for it and the loyal three are the only generic monkey, generic bird, and green Incineroar to be enslaved by Pecharunt.
>>56790459That's nuts.
>>56796314>nooo you can't discuss pokemon characters on the pokemon board!
>>56797330Waifufagging is not a discussion. Just a group of mentally ill people spilling their unhealthy fetishes on a fictional character.
>>56797330Pokegirl threads are not discussions though, it's only retards spamming lewds and talking about how they want to have sex with the girl the thread is about
>>56797383Not only that, but it doesn't matter which Pokegirl they're talking about. Every single thread is exactly the same with the same behavior.
>>56795207>the digimon themselves have weird designs and are more like "characters" than "monsters"They're barely characters, the only series where they behave like actual characters is Appmon, and that's not even technically digimon.