This ruined pokemon
>>56809059mega evolution is still the worst one for ruining sableye doe
>>56809059t. campaignshitter
>>56809059>good / bad /bad /good
>>56809059I recognise Megas, what are the rest? Had no idea they had their own icons lol.
>>56809066They're all bad
I don't understand why they can't just do regular battles anymore.
>>56809059Tera is the least worst one imo but the crystal shit ruins it
>>56809059>DUDE CHARIZARD IS BLACK NOW LOL this is what creativity bankrupt looks like
>>56809084That's why I liked PLA a lot, there weren't really any battle gimmicks and it focused on the base mons. They had the agile/strong style thing but that's not on the same level as the others
>>56809087They were made lame on purpose because CHARIZARD was supposed to get a special snowflake version that would look cooler, but Game Freak was so retarded they couldn't code it in due to how buggy SV was.
>>56809100Do you have any idea how retarded you sound saying that when two pokemon had special Tera forms?We haven't even come across any plans in the leaks.
>>56809146You need to stop taking every post you read so seriously
>>56809096Lol you must be pissed they've got megas in ZA then
>>56809091They couldn't come up with anything better because fans already beat them to the punch on all the good Ascended CHARIZARD designs all the way back in the 90's-2000's thanks to the PokeGod rumors.
>>56809181Not really since my headcanon will be that I'm just the infamous, legendary Kalosian trainer who conquered the region even without the use of megas
>>56809219Dangerously based imagination chad
>>56809059I agree>>56809064>the campaign is the fake part of the game, the competitive scene is the real partyou are why they have to introduce a billion quality of life mechanics that trivialize the game
>>56809173Ah yes, the ol' "pretending to be retarded" strategy.
>>56809059gigantamax is by far the most gay children cartoon looking ass unique mechaniccristal shit is garbage but at least there is a concept beyond "pokemon but bigger"
>>56809234>>the campaign is the fake part of the game, the competitive scene is the real partcorrect>B-BUT THEY MADE THE CAMPAIGN TRIVIALIZEDalways was, but I'm sure to someone terrible at the game like yourself who screeches about XY being too easy it seems that way
>>56809259I'll never understand what they were thinking with giganta/dynamax.
>>56809059I maintain Mega Evolution was cool and it blows my mind how this series has gone the Sonic route of just throwing random bullshit at the wall
>>56809059AgreedMegas are one of the reasons XY are shitBut the fact they decided to drop megas and start changing mechanics every other game is even fucking worseI guess tera is the one that bothers me the least because it adds some strategic depth and unlike mega works on every single mon, but I still hold the opinion that if they introduced megas they should have worked with them for at least a couple of gens.
True
Megas were a neat idea but they were too strong and centralizing, and too few pokemon got a megaZ moves were just kind of boringDynamax was HORRIBLY unbalanced, likely the worst mechanic they've ever added. About as strong as megas and twice as oppressive, genuinely game breakingTeras was a cool idea and the most balanced of the gimmick mechanics but the visual effect was dumb. They could have thought of a better way to denote it
>>56809316You can blame the poor reception of Z moves for that.
>>56809059MegaGigaTeraWhat does Z represent in computational terms?
>>56809084Lol bro just lol just dont press the special button then like wtf whats the issue here :D just dont press it
>>56809448Russia.
>>56809059they need a new thing to put on the back of box that can still rely on old Pokemon because the final time they tried to market a game on it's uniqueness the boomers had a bitchfit.
>>56809341i never minded that megas weren't for every mon. but then, i never felt i was missing out if i didn't have any team members who could mega evolve.i see it as just another thing that sets pokemon apart from each other. some can mega evolve, others can't, that's just how it is.
>>56809059>gimmick thread>"oh god, megafag must be going rampant in here">ctrl+f "gem">0 of 0Such a big sigh of relief.
>>56809593megafag is grounded and can't shitpost right now
>>56809059Everyone forgets that the first gen with a generational gimmick was in BW2 with fusion.
Any hopes for a gimmickless gen 10?
>>56809059>Megas>Tera>Z>DynamaxIs the list for me. Dynamax wrecks my suspension of disbelief. The others are better, but Z-moves feel tedious and somewhat of a retread of those boosting crystals from Gen 5. Tera is fine, and while Megas highlight the core theming of Pokemon (the trainer's bond with their pokemon), their actual implementation doesn't really reinforce that.>but what about competitiveI'm not autistic enough to go through every varied meta and cherry-pick situations in which one gimmick is better than another.
>>56809399Dynamax was fineGenuinely the only reason people get mad about it is because people think clicking status moves is the height of intellectual play and Dynamaxed mons can’t be cheesed with non standard status
>>56809341What gets me about Megas was gen 7 did nothing new new while Spinoffs kept using them. I wonder if the reason they started tying newer gimmicks' origins to a Legendary is so they have an out to explain why it doesn't show up or get expanded on in the next region.
>>56809341Megas are inherently flawed imo since temporary form changes that are battle only will always make the Pokémon feel incomplete, even if the lore reason is that it's for battle purposes. People grow attached to these designs and don't want to see it only in battle, not to mention having to click a button and see an animation every single time you want to see your favorite mega. I suspect they'll rework megas somehow in ZA. As to how, we shall see. Id like them to tie it to Kalos and have a dynamax adjacent sort of "mega energy" option for mons that don't have a mega. That way it's a little more equitable. But I hope this doesn't kickstart them bringing megas back because I never really liked them. If it was up to me we'd have no gimmicks though desu
>>56809901
>>56809316They swap out gimmicks on purpose so that kids can point to their parents and show them why they need to spend $60 on a new Pogeyman game when they just bought one last year. It's as simple as that, megafans don't understand that simple fact. No one really cared about megas come Sun and Moon and LGPE, despite them being in the game. Gimmicks are all for novelty.
Only good thing about Dynamax is that it gave me Dynamax adventures which is a fun way to shiny hunt.
>>56809525/threadZoomer megafags btfo
>>56809064>t. 99.9% of pokémon players worldwideyes?
>>56809736That's not a gimmick, it applies to 1 (one) mon.
>>56809736That's like saying Rotom's appliance gimmick is a generational gimmick.
>>56809931That's exactly why they do it anon. And if they tie megas to Zygarde or Kalos somehow in ZA then your theory will be proven. Will be interesting to see if that's the case or whether they even retcon anything. It's been a long while since they addressed any mega lore, since 2016
>>56809399>Megas were a neat idea but they were too strong and centralizingAw yeah, mega Audino, that top metagame threat
>>56810064Yeah that's true I remember no one really cared about megas in SM. Regionals were all the hype tho
>>56810094I'd count it alongside the other Formes as a generational gimmick.
>>56810164and you'd be wrong
>>56809064>>56809294What's your ball rank? You play competitive right?
>Diantha says mega only happens in kalos when it's in alola, hoenn and KANTOOO too>Sycamore says they're made by the ultimate weapon BUT THEN retconned in ORAS by being meteorites from space (Especially the one rayquaza eats to mega evolve)>Supposed to be the "Evolution beyond evolution" but single/dual stages can also mega evolve because... ???>Does mega evolution need a "Bond" to be controlled or it hurts the pokemon? gamefreak make up your mind>According to the first concept art for the creation of mega evolution it has no connection to it's own region and it's just a soulless selling point to make people buy the games>Literally NO ONE in the games know shit about mega evolution>Mega has no genuine connection with kalos loreYet another proof that mega evolutionfags don't think about it and never do they just mindlessly droll and clap their hands when charizard changes color
>>56810106>And if they tie megas to Zygarde or Kalos somehow in ZA then your theory will be proven.Funnily enough ingame Sycamore has a theory that mega stones are a result of Xerneas/Yveltal's power mutating evolutionary stones when they were used to power the Ultimate weapon.
>>56810202>and KANTOOO tooMan I’m still so fucking salty about this shitty Mega KANTOOO advertisement, Origins.
>>56810179Malding gay freaks cocksucker.
>>56809751I mean, it's not really that hard to analyze the impact these had on the meta>Dynamaxbanned instantly in singles and ridiculously overcentralizing in VGC since it's immune to most of the standard doubles bullshit>Z-movesOnce per battle attempt to smash through defensive walls, didn't stop overwhelming stall in singles thanks to being introduced in the same gen as Toxapex>Terausually just buys you a free turn (maybe not even if the opponent predicts). >Megasless of an in battle effect and more of just a way to buff certain mons or change how they play. Using them usually isn't dependent on context; most will mega evolve immediately upon hitting the field. Not really comparable to the others
>>56810301>I mean, it's not really that hard to analyze how my arbitrary fanfic council kneejerked to these game mechanics meant for a game that doesn't remotely resemble the fanfic format they inventedftfy
>>56809059no shit dumbass the games should have stayed 2d
>>56810059Bro do you know how many people when Dmax came out were like>nooo why can’t they be roared>why do they take less damage from toxic/life orb>why does it break choice lock (Lol choiced max moves)Like all the complaints were just “I should be able to cheese it away”
>>56810311Dynamax completely transforms any format you throw it into, official or otherwise, into brainless unga bunga bullshit. If you enjoy that, I recommend bashing your head against a wall several times, as the experience is similar and you'd probably enjoy that too
>>56810301What I mean is that the metas change depending on which Pokemon is available. My understanding was that sometimes this leads to the gimmicks being okay and sometimes it leads to them being bullshit.
>>56810314There's not much you can do against Dmax other than immediately Dmax right back. It's a move that COMPLETELY steals the tempo of the game. People were looking for ways to combat it because otherwise your whole team would die to an answered Dmax pokemon. And most of the time, those answers didn't exist. Not even Mega evolutions were like this, you weren't so narrowly constricted in your possible moves
>>56810314>>56810420any time someone talks about competitive they should be forced to post their elo
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>>56809059Gen 1: base mechanicsGen 2: held items + forms if you count unownGen 3: spatk spdef split + abilities + fixed EVs/IVs + weather + natures + double battles + formsGen 4: phys spec split + choice items + type items and plates are less worthlessGen 5: hidden abilities + triple and rotation battlesGen 6: terrain + megasGen 7: regional forms + z moves - triple and rotation battlesGen 8: big pokemon + raids - megas - z moves - dexited mons - antagonists - plotThe thing is they stopped improving on core mechanics with hidden abilities and just started doing a bunch of stupid shit that's gone after one game. Mechanics up to gen 5 continuously built upon each other. Loss of triples and gimmicks are fine but aside from that the only thing that's actually been added to base mechanics is terrain which might as well be weather.
>>56810396Not really, you can look at Smogon's tiers to approximate different Pokemon availability, and AFAIK all gimmicks have been available in all tiers except Dynamax. No one ever thought any of the other gimmicks was a big enough problem for a ban in any tierAnd stuff like that actually wouldn't even be unprecedented, there have been some tiers in the past that, for example, ban Slush Rush Hail teams, while keeping that strategy available in other tiers, so if any of it ever became a problem, they'd act on it
>>56810420>intimidate cycle/charm/eerie impulse/protect/sporeThere were so many ways to deal with it.
>>56809305They were thinking>what if Megas and Z-Moves had a babyGigantamax's original tease on the website said that it increases the Pokemon's "stats." Not HP, its stats, so either there was a mistranslation, or they originally intended them to be Megas 2: Electric Boogaloo, but later changed their minds. But even then, Z-Moves were mostly just single use nuke buttons (which was why I wasn't a big fan of them); Max Moves were nukes that ALSO had dumb extra special effects to let you snowball harder.
>>56810455weather was introduced in gen 2the big thing gen 5 introduced was team preview
>>56810452now post your elo for vgc
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>>56810493The console games always had team preview. I didn't really play wifi battles till gen 6, but yeah I can see how that'd be a game changer. How did Gen 4 wifi battles even work?
>>56810649Same way as every prior gen had over link cable. Whatever's in the lead slot comes out first and you just have to figure out what your opponent's using on the fly as they send it out. Kinda like how in-game battles against NPCs work
>>56810702Was there any kind of matchmaking or was it just getting friend codes off forums? I think I only started gen 6 wifi battles because the PSS had some kind of matchmaking.
>>56809059>New forms>Gimmick>Gimmick>GimmickMegas were fine because they were additions onto 3rd evolution pokemon, when otherwise that would be the endBit upset about stuff like mawile and sableye getting them it might lock them out of a regular evolution. But slowbro getting a galar form and scyther getting a new evolution gives some merit to it not being impossible
>>56810794They're all gimmicks delusional megashart
>>56810760I think there was matchmaking, I remember you didn't need a friend code to trade in the GTS
>>56810873>>56810760gen 4 was friend codes and pbr had the matchmaking
>>56809059They're all mistakes
>>56810362>Dynamax completely transforms any format you throw it into, official or otherwise, into brainless unga bunga bullshitThen why can't you win with it?
>>56810243Yeah they could pull on this thread if they wanted to tie it to the legendaries then they get to reinvent the wheel each gen and get retards to buy again and again for new gimmicks
>>56810794Gigantamax and Tera both had new forms you liar
>>56810794>They were fine because they were additionsThat's the issue. The mons feel incomplete without them and to see your special form you need to bloat battles with yet another step, every time.
>>56809059You forgot regional forms
>>56812857Regional forms didn't ruin Pokemon, at first.Introducing Paradox (great idea, bad execution) AND convergent mons (trash) so fast really watered down any uniqueness the original mons could have.
>>56809059Dexit ruined Pokémon. Dexit was the true Pokémon killer.
>>56809059I agree but as a teen I liked the idea of Megas>cool monster gets cooler!I wish they kept it and every subsequent entry got more of them, but the game would probably still suck ass so it doesn't matter.
>>56809059Megas gave some less popular pokemon a chance, let you really build a team around your favorite dude, Gigantamaxing is sadly an improvement over megas (the time limit), Dynamax is cope, teras are fucking retarded and just feel tacked on.
>>56809066Only good one was mega. But some mons deserve more than 100 bst and others less than that.
>>56810794>>56814365"only good one was mega"Truely the gimmick that had large swaths of it banned(and a lot of those mons were not even close to good in base) is the real bastion of good.Megas just like the other three ultimately have the same issues, you cannot have a super strong mon that doesn't centralize everything. It is not actually different to its contemporaries.Now mind you as gimmicks they rotate through being centralizing doesn't matter as much as they can swap off after it gets stale for a break.If its just visuals then Z/Giga both achieve the same. The only oddity is tera which yeah not exactly a new take. Literally nobody has defended teras visuals.
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>>56814571>that had large swaths of it bannedOne >fangame metsTwo>not knowing what swathes means
>>56809059>Megasgood in concept, bad in execution cuz most of them just made already great pokemon better. there were some really good examples of megas gameplay-wise though such as Pinsir>Z-Movesnot awful, z-status moves are fun to play around with but the actual z-moves don't see much use at all>dynamaxcool idea but completely shit execution due to the random, nonsensical immunities and just having 3 "fuck you" moves that just screw with the terrain and weather to hardly anyone's benefit>terashould have had the Delta EX species from the TCG, hats are stupid. it was fun to play around with when the game was developing but now it's just cancerthis has been "irrefutable facts you cannot deny" with anon y. mouse
>>56814681VGC is a very different tale but ultimately one that you can't gauge off of nonexistent bans for.>oneUh huh. Mega Gengar/Mega Kang/Mega Lucario/Mega Mawile/Mega Blaziken. This doesn't look like two to me. Into MegaMence and Mega Sableye also getting thrown into ubers.Somehow I think your math is off.
>>56814741Are you retarded anon?He wasn't saying two mon were banned, he's saying you don't know what swathes means and he's right since 5 out of 48 isn't a lot.
>>56815603You say that like it wasn't worded like someone with a lobotomy did it. He literally loses track of what he's saying mid post, goes off topic and then remembers what he even was talking about.And yes it kinda is statistically.Additionally this idea that "you can build around your favorite mon" is a farce; higher power and a single slot means that one slot has much much higher requirements. The gap between a strong mega and a weak mega(of which another pretty huge chunk resides in) is actually much worse.
>>56815632>You say that like it wasn't worded like someone with a lobotomy did it.Nigger, he literally goes>point one, fanfic meta>point two, not knowing what swathes meansIt could not be any clearer>"you can build around your favorite mon"You are the first and only person to say this in this thread, who are you arguing against? Have YOU lost track of what you're saying? Because this isn't part of anyone's argument, it's just you seething into the wind.
>>56815632>And yes it kinda is statistically.NTA but "swathes" is defined as a large piece of land, "statistically" 5 out of 48 is not a large amount.
>>56815666>It could not be any clearerDid you know that if you just spit out words in a disjointed manner it may result in it becoming unreadable. Especially when its about random bullshit I'm barely paying attention to.>it's just you seething into the wind.No its me just saying shit that vaguely comes to mind, if you think i care about a rotational gimmick you've got another thing coming.I can easily point at where my vague thought came from, even if it was a misreading. But its so blatant I don't even feel like pointing at it.>>56815688Its 5 out of 45 because Mega Fug and the Mewtwos are disqualified for obvious reasons.And yes I would considering a fifth large.
>>56815790Or rather my awful math was making me think that, see? All logic leads somewhere. Ultimately my posts are more rambling of a drunk than actively giving a shit.
>>56809084Because its boring.
>>56815790>Did you know that if you just spit out words in a disjointed mannerAgain, it couldn't be clearer the guy, didn't even mention how many had been banned, just how you didn't know what swathes meant.Not to mention if he were talking about the amount of banned megas he would have just said the amount instead of going>one>twoYou read it completely wrong and went on a tangent that you were still wrong about anyway.>No its me just saying shit that vaguely comes to mindAka seething into the wind about nothing.
>>56815799>Ultimately my posts are more rambling of a drunk than actively giving a shit.Just admit you're angry anon.You can see by your posts that you aren't actually drunk by the lack of grammatical mistakes.
>>56815952>>56815988Actually brief question, what on earth would i even be mad about? That I was too lazy to check myself about some crap i threw out until writing it out?>, just how you didn't know what swathes meantOr you know, i showed the actual reasoning already. Trying to force this after I showed the actual and equally dumb reason I wrote that. But glad to see you're joining me on this train; though you already sorta were by defending that formatting.Also if i was mad, trust me when i say i can't write sentences even when not drunk if i rush that shit.
Does every board have a dedicated schizo troll that just repeats the same easily identifiable shit day after day these days? I barely visit /vp/ any more and I'm guessing the guy just hasn't stopped talking the same old shite since whenever I was last here, probably may. Seems like every board has one they can all spot a mile off, probably deliberately so. Why do they do it? Is it just attention or is there more to it?
>>56816375>Does every board have a dedicated schizo troll that just repeats the same easily identifiable shit day after day these days?I would guess every popular one has a schizo yeah. I used to post on one that still has an annoying schizo ruining threads.>Why do they do it? Is it just attention or is there more to it?They're mentally ill. I would guess they feel safe to spam their trash on 4chan since they're anonymous here.
Only Z-Moves and Terastallization are bad. The former isn't a super mode system at all and the latter is more of a copout like dinamaxing as opposed to gigantamaxing.Mega evolution is good except Mewtwo should have had one mega, Charizard should have had one mega with Y's design and X's type, Mlwile and Sebleye are now short forever, Banette is now short forever and is out of synch with Dusclops forever, they made Steelix even bigger when they could have given onyx a preevolution, and although Mega Blastoise's design is disappointing, I'm glad it got a mega at all.Gigantamax is decent, but unnecessary because all the mons with megas are no longer relevant except the fully evolved kanto starters and Gengar. My guess is GF was too stubborn to admit that evolution being permanent was a mistake so they made a new super mode system where Pikachu doesn't have to evolve into Raichu.>B-but evolution has always been-Just because something has always been the case, doesn't mean it's good.
>>56816523The general I mainly frequent these days has a max level one, but everywhere I happen to visit around here has one. I don't play the newer games so /vp/ doesn't have the appeal it used to.
>>56816375What's there to talk about? The Ashime is over and besides Redfaggotry, Typhlosion has always been a rapist now, and lying that Gardevoir Lopunny Cynthia and every uncustomized female player trainer are somehow hotter than Jessie Medicham and Gothitelle, all that's left is Legends Z-A speculation.
>>56816909>What's there to talk about?TcgCurrent animeMerch releases and personal collections LoreOCActually playing the game like we used to
>>56809084Every Gen needs some sort of new major mechanic introduced.Gen 2 Held items & special splitGen 3 Abilities & new stat systemGen 4 Phys/Spec splitGen 5 Team PreviewGen 6-9 Respective gimmick button mechanics
>>56817032>Gen 5 Team PreviewReally.
>>56816959>TcgThe tcg has been irrelevant since gen3.>Current animeNo Ash so it's more boring than ever before.>Merch releases and personal collectionsWho cares?>LoreYou mean like Burgundy's chest size? Which is ironic because there is apparently ZERO fanart of her tied up or gagged. Guess she peaked when she got webgagged in her debut. That's what she gets for being impatient and ugly. I have lost the ability to hold a basic conversation.>OCStop forcing your Mary Sue to fuck Ash, faggot.>Actually playing the game like we used toWell Pokemon is dead until Z-A so who cares.
>>56817065>The tcg has been irrelevant since gen3.Not only does it regularly trade with magic for #1 best selling tcg of the year people also buy it for more reasons than just playing it namely the artwork. Not to mention the mobile tcg game just released.>No Ash so it's more boring than ever before.Irrelevant, it's a piece of the series to discuss I also forgot to mention the various manga.>I have lost the ability to hold a basic conversation.I can tell.>Stop forcing your Mary Sue to fuck Ash, faggot.Original content doesn't mean original character you idiot.>Well Pokemon is dead until Z-A so who cares.We still have games that are receiving support anon.
>>56816909>and lying that Gardevoir Lopunny Cynthia and every uncustomized female player trainer are somehow hotter than Jessie Medicham and Gothitellewtf are you saying
>>56817144>Not only does it regularly trade with magic for #1 best selling tcg of the year people also buy it for more reasons than just playing it namely the artwork. Not to mention the mobile tcg game just released.Never the less, tcgs are irrelevant and only people who don't shower play them.>Irrelevant, it's a piece of the series to discuss I also forgot to mention the various manga.You're irrelevant. I checked in on the anime to see if anything happened. Now that the Ashime is over, I am free to live in my own headcanon. Also, the manga is a hub for Redfags. Sure, Pokemon Reburst has the closest thing to biomerging in Pokemon, but you people hated it.>Original content doesn't mean original character you idiot.Then what does it stand for? Original content? You mean like that bootleg game Pokemon infinite fusions that lacks Samurott Medicham and Gothitelle and is yet another example of Redfaggotry?>We still have games that are receiving support anon.Well Pokemon unite hasn't added any pokemon in a while, and they certainty haven't added any good Pokemon in a while. Also, fuck Pokemon masters.>>56817163What's not to get? How come when a female human has short green hair and no lipstick she's ugly but when Gardevoir does it it's hot? Lopunny has coal black eyes and you only like it because it's arms look like boobs. Cynthia is Jessica Rabbit at home. And granted, the new female player trainers can dye their hair and wear lipstick, but in their vanilla designs they're ugly.
>>56816763>Only Z-Moves and Terastallization are bad.They're all shit
>>56817256>Why haven't you kys alreadyJust to spite you specifically gimmickfag
>>56809593megafag's punishment is over and now he's back shitposting with mommy's phone as you can see
>>56817241i never got the impression anyone found jessie uglymedicham and gothitelle <-- they have ugly nigger lips and weird bodily proportions compared to gardevoir or lopunny
>>56812973GameFreak literally stopped trying when they realized they could change Rattata's colors on MS Paint and add some spikes, and get away with it. I don't even blame them, is 0 effort and free money.
>>56817053Team Preview is pretty big for competitive. It means you know what Pokemon your opponent has and no team has a dedicated lead anymore.
Gen 6 and Gen 9 gimmicks are alright at best. The other two suck ass.That being said the base battle system is boring as all fuck so you should be glad that they are trying new things.
>>56816763Its the other way around.Megas as a mechanic are just glorified form changes and making every format a restricted format.Dynamax is straight up a dogshit mechanic. You need multiple pages of notes to understand everything about Dynamax and despite it being mechanically complex it ends up dumbing down the game significantly.Dynamax is also just Z moves with far less balance and multiple extra steps, so hating Z moves but not Dynashit makes 0 sense.In regards to Z moves itself, they are better than Dynamax but still carry many issues Dynamax had. Status Z moves however were a fun addition. Turning Splash into an instant +3 Atk or Conversion into an omni-boost is tons of fun.Tera however I’d like to actually stay because its so simple yet had many applications.
>>56809064PvP was a mistake
>sexoS E X O
>>56809059Mega evolution should've stayed forever. It could absolutely still coexist with Tera as it did with Z-Moves. Removing it from SWSH is understandable since G-Max is too mega adjacent
>>56809259>>56809305Gigantamax sucked because instead of trying to make them all cool like Megas they just decided to make 90% of them goofy as shit or visual puns except Charizard. Plenty of them fall into the "make one feature extremely exaggerated" trope that nu Pokemon loves to do
>>56819116>cool like MegasLOL
>instead of trying to make them all cool like Megas
>>56819177>>56819136No one ever used these. Megas are still 900x better than gmax
>>56819187>T. >>56819177
>>56809448>ZettabyteGlobal yearly Internet traffic in 2016 (known as the Zettabyte Era)PMSM they are the first installments in the seventh generation of the Pokémon video game series. First announced in February 2016, Sun and Moon were released worldwide on 18 November 2016.
>56819187>Megas are still 900x better than gmax!
>>56819227I mean, you kind of played yourself on this one.
>>56819227>>56819395soingar
>>56817032>Team preview counts as a mechanic>Dynamic turn adjustment based on speed changes mid turn does notlol?
>>56819767That is also a mechanic, but the main mechanic in Gen 8 was Dynamax and honestly is still less impactful than team preview.Dynamic speed has 0 impact on singles and in doubles it only ever comes into play when using Tail Wind or speed lowering spread moves.Not only do you know what Pokemon your opponent has with team preview, altering every decision early game, but you get 6 possible leads in singles and 15 possible leads in doubles.
>>568100876. Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyurem, Necrozma, Solgaleo and Lunala.
>>56809736That’s not a gimmick that’s an alternate form and its only for Kyurem, Necrozma, and Calyrex. There is also no button so it’s not a gimmick.
CHADgas won because they're returning for ZA and there is literally no way they'd add new ones without putting them in the next gen games to be usable onlineMeanwhile SHARTmax and the ringpops will be dead content eternally that NOBODY ever liked
>>56821035>Megafags still coping with the fact it's shitty gimmick will be dropped in gen 10 for yet another broken gimmick
>>56821088When you are wrong I want you to remember this moment and how I was right. You complete buffoon, you cabbage, you donut.
>>56821104>When you are wronggood thing i won't
>>56821104They can't help it anon. Years of getting BTFO after claiming Sinnoh would have Z-Mov- wait they mean Dynamax-- has broken them.Gimmickfags will cling to literally anything to say that Megas are just one of the shitty flavor of the month things.
Megafag got mommy's phone again i see
>>56820627You’re actually retarded if you don’t understand how massive a change dynamic speed adjustment is.>Muh singlesssssAnd anyway team preview was from Stadium. It barely even qualifies as a game mechanic.
>>56809059The pokemon but big gimmick was already scraping the bottom of the barrel, what gimmick do you think they'll settle with after they run out of ideas?
>>56821629a pokemon getting access to a fifth move to use in battle, except the mankey's paw curls and the said move gets some super cancer assigned to it such as "ignoring immunities, goes through protect"
>>56821611In order for dynamic speed to actually matter>Has to be in doubles>The Pokemon altering speed stats has to go either first or second (using only a select few moves)>The other player can’t use the same speed control options either>The slower Pokemon need to be in the same priority bracket>The 2nd or 3rd Pokemon in the turn order has to only outspeed the 3rd/4th Pokemon after the speed control is appliedOutside of Steam Engine and Weak Armor, this rarely alters turns. Almost all tailwinds are met by other tailwinds and there are several priority moves going around with Fake Outs and Protects.Team Preview on the other hand>What lead you choose determines the momentum of the game>In VGC it can outright determine who wins>You and your opponent know exactly Pokemon you have meaning you factor that in with each turn decision>Applies to both singles and doubles>In BSS and VGC it determines who you bring to a match based on your opponent’s teamNext time when you’re battling with your friends, ask them to not look at your team and don’t look at their team either. Guarantee you it’ll be a lot different.
>>56809059Megas is at least genuinely innovative, the rest are pure gimmick and add nothing
>>56821629Enhanced AbilitiesEvery ability gets an enhanced version that’s stronger.Abilities that are clones of each other, like Battle/Shell Armor or Huge/Pure Power get seperate enhancements like Super Battle Armor giving +1 Atk/Def on top of crit immunity and Super Shell Armor giving +1 Def/SpD on top of crit immunity.
>>56821629Double items? "Overcharge" mode where you sacrifice some health for an enhanced attack? A "trainer callout" that guarantees a crit, but only a few times a battle?
>>56811105because its not a fun gen gimmick
>>56821629Fusion but this time with a much wider implementation than just Kyurem and Necrozma
>>56809059>gimmicks are… le badThe only problem with them is that they rotate them out every 3 years. If they would have just stuck with megas as a mainstay I think we would have been fine
>>56819187>megas are so cool>except this one, this one, this one, this one, this one, this one, ... but no one uses them so it doesn't matter, only my opinion does even though I only like to use said gimmick in extremely rare specific casesLove seeing biased people who can't even see they don't believe in their own taste and only defend shit out of nostalgia and ego. We get it, you love X & Y even though you probably don't even play this game or Pokémon in general since forever now.
>>56819227>>56819395they look the fucking samehe didn't play himself, saying they are 900x better when they look identical is just being biased against newer games because nostalgia goggles and needing to reason said hate, when these games are already shit for the most part and don't need any crazy mental gymnastics for anyone to hate them already
>>56823496>>gimmicks are… le badYes.
>>56821807You are an utter clown dude. None of your little nitpicking about how in mirror prankster matches you’ll get two tailwinds changes that this is a Stadium mechanic, not a gen V one.
>>56809059yeah the series would definitely be better off without seasonal gimmicks. either commit or fuck off, hate to get used to something only for GF to abandon it the very next gen
