Pokémon Infinite Fusion DiscussionPrevious >>56718944https://fusioncalc.com/ -> Infinite Fusion Calculatorhttps://if.daena.me/ -> Where you can view custom sprites and sort them by head or body.https://www.mediafire.com/folder/f20qyqw00w8r9/Infinite_Fusion_downloads -> Infinite Fusion game, where you can fuse Pokémon and put them on your team!https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1eHkOWVlyhlGtQoBHIMm_vuwftxx23B-3 -> Google Drive of edits and custom sprites made by 4chan and elsewhere. Reply to this post if you want your custom sprite added to the drive.https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/18vPJjAr7rB6ec95NHkNflszxIAb1OoCX -> BackupGoogle DrivePokemon Alt. IF Discord Link: https://pastebin.com/MrXXuVRqTo add new custom sprites to the game, simply insert them into your Custom Batters Folder. Once you boot up the game it'll automatically index the sprites into the correct individual folders.
What old movies are you watching this Halloween.
I never knew this game had a general wtf.
>>56811958Yeah we've been here for awhile.Usually we just post sprites and talk about the game.
>>56811759Nice
>>56811716You know, weirdly enough, I've always been a fan of the Halloween aesthetic and my favorite color is somewhere between orange and red-orange because of pumpkins, but I've just never really been a fan of Gourgeist. Always liked Trevenant more. I only learned the other day that it has different stats depending on its forms, too. This >>56811826 sprite is really nice, though, maybe IF will turn me around on Gourgeist.
>>56812617As much as I love Gourgeist I think Pumpkaboo's a way better Halloween mon since it looks like a fluffy bat or cat sitting on top of a pumpkin, which is pretty darn cute.
>>56812911True, Pumpkaboo was always more appealing to me. He looks very polite and I would pet him.
Artsy babby
>>56811716I haven't played the game in about two years, what new stuff have they added?Did they actually start adding new mons?I thought they said the game was too bloated for that.
Whoever makes these needs to calm down.
>>56815819It was, but they found that instead of hosting all the fusions' data predetermined on a database like GitHub, they could rewrite it so that the game generates the needed information on the fly, which is how we now have 470 Pokemon ingame, and up to another announced, with 1 unannounced. I only just got back into it so idk if they'll go higher than 500.Also the sprite repo they had on GitHub was breaking their ToS, which led to GitHub shutting it down, so they've had to move to offering the game in a download preloaded with all the custom sprites alongside an optional launcher that can update the game as new updates/sprites come out.
>>56817889>typo*up to another 29 announced
>>56818650What's this a reference to?Look cool.
>>56818902Sadako (inspiration for "The Ring" movie)
How would you balance Pokémon fusion if it was added to the main series? How would you handle stats, for example?
>>56819827holy fuck that's rad
>>56819906I'd probably start by divorcing stats being weighted towards which part of the fusion is the head or body, it makes some Pokemon really not fun to use, like Bastiodon as the head for example. Bastiodon is a very defensive Pokemon stat-wise, which is meant to offset the fact that Rock is a very weak typing, especially paired with Steel. Conversely, Rock is also a great offensive typing. So when I see badass fusions with Pokemon like Bastiodon as the head that you would think would make a Pokemon much more defensive, it sucks to see that the resulting fusion gets like, half of the Defense Bastiodon has by default, and only his Special Defense gets carried over, because of how the stat weighting works. Not sure exactly what formula I'd use in place, but it's something I would prefer to be different.
>>56819906I think they'd mostly use fusions as an enhancement rather than a weighted average. As in it would just add a % of the highest stats of the monsters to one another for the result. Right now if you have a monster with very high stats in a certain category, it will usually be relatively decreased during the combination process. So a lot of the time you end up with a weaker monster in BST than what you started with. This can be offset with abilities or better movepools, but it can be disatisfying all the same. Fusions only being able to increase stats would fit with GameFreak's simple 'win more' type gimmicks.
>>56820492Yeah, I agree, it's frustrating to use a pseudo, legendary or even something like Slaking with a cool Pokemon for whatever reason only to see the BST drop far below 100 of what the original had.>>56820406 I tried something with this example, where if two Pokemon's stats are within a certain threshold, you simply take the average between the two, then if one of the two stats is outside of that average, I weighted the final towards the higher stat, so my math ended up like this for Bastiodon(head)/Gardevoir(body), using a threshold of 30.HP = (60[head] + 68[body]) / 2 = 64ATK = (52 + 65) / 2 = 59DEF = ((168 * 2) / 3) + (65 / 3) = 134SPA = (47 / 3) + ((125 * 2) / 3) = 99SPD = (138 + 115) / 2 = 127SPE = (30 / 3) + ((80 * 2) / 3) = 63BST Total = 546For the weighting, I used the same formula IF uses, but for a first pass, this makes the resulting fusion represent the qualities of both Pokemon comprising it much better than arbitrarily tying stats to the different parts of the fusion. The only issue would be to find a way to statistically distinguish between the two fusions, but I really don't care as I try to go for cool factor with the sprites anyways. But at the same time I don't want to go out of my way to edit game files to swap sprites, giving me the illusion of using a fusion that looks cool and is a statistically good Pokemon. Like, look at how many Aggron head fusions look badass but are dogshit because they won't inherit his two best stats.
>>56816590yeah he's into it
>>56819827too bad unown sucks balls, this is one helluva spooky design
>>56822949Yeah, if only stats weren't pointlessly arbitrarily anchored to their placement on the fusion, then we might have a use for all 673 Unown head fusion spritesto be fair, almost all of them are boring or look like ass
>>56818654needs thiccer thighs
*hearty surfer laugh*
wish there were more megaman-inspired fusions
>>56816590>>56825513I can never tell what the hell is going on with these sprites, the background just makes it a cluttered mess
>>56826786these types of sprites*
>>56826786>>56816590 he's kneeling with an ice wall behind him>>56825513 the cloyster shell is like a chair and he's laying down in it
SPOOP
>>56828020The most normal Mr. Mime fusion
>>56830011very very naisu
boss croc
Can't say I saw it comin'.
So Remix Mode is just the new name for Modern Mode, yeah?
>>56830658Remix makes the Pokemon available in each route a lot less like Kanto and more of the full roster that the game has to offer, while also swapping Gym Leader/E4 typings for a different experience
>>56830734So the new name for Modern Mode, gotcha.
>>56830753Alright, I didn't know it had a different name at some point, I started playing mid-5.x
prehistoric wrath
>>56834350I knew they'd end on a shitmon after all the actually cool ones they gave us in a row.
How do i play this game in mobile? Im trying to run it with joiplay but the game stops working at a black screen after the intro sequence thingy
>>56834350I luv dis
>>56834350Here's to next year's disappointments
>>56834350>heheheh it's so funny we put a shitmon in!!! lolxD!!!!!yeah fuck you too
>>56834836On the bright side, at least we're over 60% of the way done up to the Aloladex
>get le epic trololed!couldnt wait half a year for april fools, could they
>>56834928this is still just as stupid considering now carbink is completely superfluous before it even gets in a full release which is for sure why they announced it way before so it'd actually get fusions because otherwise everyone would rather work on diancie and carbink'd get fuck all
>>56835057I mean wasnt there that one guy who's been making hundreds of Diancie sprites? I feel like as a community-based game you have to acquiesce to that eventually
>>56834928I genuinely prefer Luvdisc.
>>56835111you say that but i can't imagine salazzle would get a free entry pass if someone made 300 sprites for her
>>56835160we're getting both fwiw>>56835179one could certainly put the theory to the test, but I guess we just have to hope Salazzle (as well as any other mon not yet added) gets voted for or whatever
>>56835226>we weren't originally going to add both>when they now have enough slots to add every canon pokemon AND a ridiculous multitude of fakemon, they're STILL choosing to debate whether they want to put in actual pokemon or shitmon no one wants "as a joke"seriously what the fuck is up with this dev team
>>56835226I know, and I prefer the fish. At least it's going to be catchable before the post-game.
>>56835328>seriously what the fuck is up with this dev teamdiscordThat's the only answer you need.
>>56835328they're still going to add more every year, this is just the dumb shit you get with a "community" built game>theyre arguing in the discord about goonerbait mons again
>no ogerpon>same texture gimmick as sableye AND carbinkI fucking hate it in here.
>>56835864I thought they weren't ever adding any Pokemon past gen 7
>>56835864Anything past Gen 7 is verboten because that was the newest gen when this game was first made.And also probably because the lead guy doesn't like Gens 8 and 9. I don't blame him.
>>56835909Why do people keep pulling "they don't like this gen!" out their ass when it comes to these things?
>>56836200Projection
>>56826786People feel the need to add an absolute metric ton of special effects to their sprites, because doing so gets the users on the discord to shower them with praise. Same reason why some sprites seem to fill the entire canvas despite both mons being relatively small, because bigger = more positive feedback.I still maintain that Oz (the guy who made >>56826422) is one of the best regular spriters on the server purely because they don't do that shit.>>56835179>you say that but i can't imagine salazzle would get a free entry pass if someone made 300 sprites for herIf it was a good spriter that made them? They'd probably add it.If it was a bad spriter? Probably not.>>56835864Nothing past Gen VII is being added, because the game's based on Pokemon Essentials, and Essentials hasn't been updated past Gen VII. That's the sole reason.If Infinite Fusion wasn't held together by sellotape due to running in an atrocious engine, it would 100% include Gen VIII+ mons, and probably also include the entire dex instead of a random selection from Gen III onwards. Hell, the only reason we got anything past the first 420 was because one single guy volunteered to unfuck some of the shitty code.
>>56837267>some sprites seem to fill the entire canvasyeah i looked at some today, i try to avoid them unless its joke sprites like porygon-z
>>56811716https://files.catbox.moe/dtc5po.7zLast few Moemon base sprites, Scrafty through LuvdiscSee you if (when) they add more!
>>56838496
>>56838504
>>56838509Dancy Diance
yeah "Mew"It's always a pleasure to have people there to make messages before merging, people love it so much in the games their kids download.
>>56839236Cute!
>>56839458Is this all those people can think about?
>>56840577Yes, dubs of truth
>>56839458I don't luv dic.
Haven't played in a good while. I assume they've fully excised anything even remotely boob-like?
>>56841984Pretty much yeah.Only Jynx and Nidoqueen are allowed to have boobs.
>>56842114>Only Jynx and Nidoqueen are allowed to have boobs.probably because those are the only two pokemon in the game, arguably in general, that have on-model boobs
There's no such thing as a "shitmon", there are only uncreative people.
>>56842773Adding Luvdisc without Alomomola is shit desu famalam
>>56842773Luvdisc is definitely a shitmon.
>>56842773for the purposes of infinite fusion, luvdisc is a shitmon>head fusions are weighted to inherit its low HP, SpA, and SpD>body fusions are weighted to inherit its low Atk, Def, and above average Speed>luvdisc body is just a fucking pink heart with no other defining features, so even sprite artists aren't enthused to be working with it>the ones who will are just going to make every single one revolve around Heart Scales because it's the most interesting part of the Pokemonhow is it not a shitmon
>>56842773
>>56842773>shitty stats, so no mons benefit from fusing with it>literally just a valentine heart with very little features, so neither the heads or bodies will have much to work with>just put in for the lulzLuvdisc is a shitmon, m8.
COME SPEND YOUR MONEY HERE
What'll it be tonight?
>>56847472very nice
badass
Cleffa fusions are so cute.They're always sweet little babies.
>>56847472Looks like a Rivals of Aether character
>>56850190Even if it is Dollar Store Skitty, Cleffa/Meowth is one of my favorites
>>56850251Yeah, that one's really nice.I also like this Eevee one.
>luvdisc over literally any other mon, even something like spinda which at least has a unique design to make up for the shitty statsWas this out of spite?
>>56851187its credited to the dev named "Frog" thinking it would be "le funny"take that as you will
>>56850251>the artist for this didn't finish the line
How is there not a boobs edit for this guy yet? He's literally Jigglybra. You'd think there'd be a joke edit of that in the first 10 minutes when somebody gets one.
>>56851850I wish more artists would complete the full evo lines for each fusion.There seems to be only one guy that consistently does that.
Well, all my favorites got in last month, so Luvdisc getting in doesn't bother me -as- much as it might have otherwise.Still, it's a pretty lame mon to end on.
>>56854036Looks straight outta Care Bears or something around that era.
Here's your Zebstrika, bro.
>>56853416Technically it ended on diancie
>so many bad edits for sexo latelywhat happen to the anon that made the good ones?
>>56855861there are some good ones in the alt IF discord
>>56855861post one of the edits, there's a few of us that do sexo edits.
>>56856651theres a lot so here my fav>Mawile+Slaking>Goodras>Lopunny + Magcargomostly because the shape of the ass and tits are good >>56856627I thought those post on the drive was from that server
>>56856733The backup drive guy (i think) only saves the sprites that are posted in these threads, the alt discord also has their own monthly sprite packs where you can find the sprites that are posted there
>>56856780shit now I have to found out who to dm to get the link
>>56856733>mawile/slaking>lopunny/macargoThose weren't edits, those were full on new sprites.
>>56857099not this one
>>56857262That's not an edit, that guy drew a whole backsprite alt.
>>56857272well you can get to what people I was referring
>>56855643True.BTW they really shouldn't have added Carbink.Diance is just better Carbin in every way.
>>56857937Diancie should've just been a Carbink evo in the first place
>>56857937Carbink is better in being actually available to catch before beating the Elite 4.
>>56858119that's assuming they actuallly do that
>puts on magic bootsTime to make Carbink Obsolete
>>56858229It will just be in Mt. Moon and/or Rock Tunnel.
>>56859414spooky
My spirit animal.
>>56858049Why the hell wasn't it?Did they just not wanna try the idea of evolving legendaries until Gen 7?
>>56862015cause they wanted to make Diancie "special" by making her a hyper rare mutation that only happens once every thousand years or somethingtl:dr money
>looking through sylveon fusions cuz i always thought it was pretty cute but wanted it to be a fast special attacker instead of being so slow>like the majority of its fusions are pride flag shitListen, I usually don't care about gender identity politics or whatever, but this is just sad, man.
>>56863288most of them aren't even fusions, they're just the Body pokemon holding a trans flagthis is why the old Sylveon/Gardevoir family sprites were better
>>56864465a classic
>bagon/slowking = bakingAh, I see.
loool
>>56851257>head dev havin a giggleI'm gonna say spite regardless of his actual intentions.
final boss tier
SKREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>56868073Badass
Jynx family - Salamence family fusions.
>>56869021I normally hate Jynx as a Pokemon, but the Salamence head, Jynx body fusion here looks so good I would consider using it
>>56869021kyuuute
>>56811716Seaking family - Lucario fusions.Individual sprites:https://files.catbox.moe/yt03ga.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/p5ijoi.png
>>56870305Cute!
>>56870326Good shit, I like Seaking fusions visually but I haven't felt compelled to use any until I saw this
>>56869021>Jyngonwould
>>56811716sex
>>56870305Adorable!>>56870326Excellent!
>>56816590I won't lie, these are super well made.Like, damn.
>>56872221love the shading on the dress.
I implore you to look at this baby.
>>56811716pog
>>56869021Would love to see a black alt of the Jynx heads.
>>56876479CUTE!
>>56876479babby
Man, I haven't playedd since 5.3, I think.What's change since then?
>>5687782650 new pokemon added, with 21 on the way, some decent QoL like picking sprites on capture/evolution, some new postgame stuff apparently (haven't played it myself), and with every legendary/mythical added there's some new side content to get it
>>56878131>50 new monsDamn, they must've really unfucked the code to be able to do that.
I could totally see this as being a fantasy creature from some other game.Cute.
>>56879111think i mistyped, there should be 31 on the way in the next update, the dex is going up to 501. currently its at 470
>>56878513Those are some cool-ass leek wings, brah.
Slime Rancher was a neat little game.I'd play the sequel but I think it's still in beta or something.
>>56881725harbringer of the apocalypse
Torkoal whe->torkoal's inSlurpuff whe>slurpuff's inGourgeist whe->gourgeist is inMinior whe->minior's inUhhh.Shit, all the things I wanted are actually in.Is this what satisfaction feels like?
>doing a randomized run>brock's typing is dark>the first mon he throws out is a zorua/shedinja>none of mons in the early routes have a fairy move or a passive damage moveRIP
lmao
>>56875509*punts like a football*
Cool, but I feel like it needs more shading.
What are the most busted fusions I can use?I'm guessing something like Huge Power Azumarill+Slaking, or Blissey+Slaking.Or anything with Slaking to remove Truant, really.
>>56887918Stat wise, Slaking fusions are good, however abilities are also a key for broken fusionsShedinja + any steel type to get something that's immune to everything except fire moves, stealth rocks (which from personal experience the opponent rarely uses) and hail (again i rarely seen the opponent use it)
>>56887918Huge Power Azumarill+Marowak holding a Thick Club. You get some great defenses, absurd power, and a great typing.
>>56887994That sounds amazing.So the Thick Club work on both bodies and heads, yes?
>>56888517as long as part of a fusion is a specific pokemon, held items that work for that pokemon work on the fusion, so like fusing pikachu with your starter and giving it a light ball is sort of common for early game strength
>>56888713Nice.I'll be sure to try this guy out.Thanks, m8.
>>56887918>>56887989>Shedinja + any steel type to get something that's immune to everything except fire movesa better alternative is Shedninja + any dark type, instead of being vulnerable to fire moves it's fairy moves which is a lot rarer in Classic mode (don't know about Remix)
>wonder guard fusions can only ever have 1HPFucking why?
>>56884620If I may ask, what combo of 'mons do you need to make Homer fight magical animals?
>>56889495Doduo/Ho-Oh
>>56889459
I NEED A FUSION TO CLOBBER THAT THERE KIRBY
are there any other egyptian themed fusions before this thread?
>>56890801Porysphinxes?
>>56890865niceI wonder if someone already made a cofagrigus + pheromosa fusion?
>>56890869If there were it wouldn't be for this game.Anything past Gen 7 is a nono.
>>56889008In Remix your only big threat to dark shedinja is Sabrina who becomes a fairy type gym leader
>>56883266Dragapult when
>>56892823Literally never because the fags don't want to add anything past gen 7
>>56891150nta but that's a gen 5 and gen 7 pokemon bro, runerigus is the one that won't get in.
>thunderus' off-brand cousin
>>56893621I'm retarded, for some reason I thought Pheromosa was Gen 8.brb killin' meself
>>56894449what a fun little guy
>>56892566>>56894449Cute!!
I didn't play gen7 so I didn't know what ability Pyukumuku had.Today I learned it has Innards Out.The way I learned what it does was by one-shotting a Blissey/Pyuku fusion with my Azumarill/Marowak and losing most of my health in return.Not fun.
>>56892916Not that they don't want to because the troon mods would demand Hatterene in so they could make a bajillion more tranny spritesIt's just the hardware only goes upto Gen 7 and anything after that has to be handmade and added
>>56895685upgrade to an actual engine when?literally never, i know
>fuse double aggron>it's rock/steel instead of pure steelHold up, when did they change this?The whole reason I liked using double Aggron was to pretend I'm playing Mega Aggron and get rid of its awful Rock typing.
>>56896906dominant typings for the puposes of fusions were largely removed in 6.x, the only one that remains is where a Normal/Flying Pokemon always contributing Flying type to the fusion. It was jarring when I came back to the game too.https://infinitefusion.fandom.com/wiki/Pokémon_Fusion#Typing
>>56897672Ah, that sucks.I mean, I get why they did it just for consistency's sake, but like. Damn>my gardevoir/charizard's gonna be psychic/flying instead of psychic/fireLame....
>>56897827the problem is that it's not consistent thanks to normal/flying still working the same way since even they know that'd handicap classic mode's bird rosterso now there's a million charizard fusions involving fire that just don't make sense now, never mind shit like the ghastly line not even giving ghost fusions now, and meanwhile they're completely aware the problem with doing it that way still exists
>>56897827it's really annoying when it doesn't line up with what the sprites look likeFor example Ferrothorn used to have its type swapped to Steel/Grass for the purposes of fusions, so all the Ferrothorn head fusions use his silver body and green spikes and look sick as hell, but now its not flipped anymore so all those fusions inherit his Grass typing
Honestly, who was missing Venusaur's Poison typing or Gyarados' Flying type?No one, that's who.
fucking precious
I'm so fucking happy Golisopod is in.Literally my favorite Bug type.
If Infinite Fusion DID allow mons past Gen 7 what would (you) pick?
>>56900051ToxtricityPolteageistArbolivaTinkaton
>>56900051CentiskorchFrosmoth (to make it not slow as a glacier)FalinksTinkaton
>>56900051Ceruledge, Sneasler, Espathra.
>>56900051Rolycoly, Charcadet, Tinkatink, Cyclizar, Hatenna, Impidimp, and Bloodmoon Ursaluna
>>56900051Espathra and Tinkaton.
>>56900051Tadbulb
Oh yeah, I forgot the Gen 6 starters are in nowFunny how they just skipped past Gen 5.
Aside from Contrary, gen 5 starters don't have much to offer mechanically.
>>56903277Stop tilting your head like that, you'll get a crook in your neck.
Is Poison Jab still a randomizer-only TM or can you actually get it in Classic and Modern/Remix?
very nice
>>56811716Give me your ugliest fusions.
>>56905715why the fuck he look like that
>>56905715What the actual fuck am I looking at?
>>56904878muh dick>>56907083Very cool
>>56905949It's the flame mohawk.At least the final evo looks nice.
>>56907083Why did you post a regular tree?
[mischievous ragtime starts]
