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turn 1 moltres ex in to concede
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>Play Hand Scope
>No Sabrina/Giovani
>End Turn
>Opponent draws
>Plays Sabrina/Giovani
>DEFEAT
happens everytime
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>>56827087
why she so small
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OP might be retarded
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The flair system is retarded. Need 5 freaking copies of a card just to put sparkles on a card.
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>>56827087
Bros, this deck feels insane! I have a huge win streak, over 5 in a row, and just beat the Misty Articuno deck! That right after beating two Mewtwo decks!
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OP might be based

MISTY SUPREMACY!
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>>56827524
Using Jewgle Images instead of Bing generally does that to a nigga.
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Trading LF illustration rare Pikachu EX have base rarity Arcanine EX
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>>56827087
You forgot to put /ppg/ in the OP
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YkqrypGO0s
spragels posted
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Dumbass misty plapper OP
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>>56827375
Because she is 10 years old.
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I need Abras wtf man
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>>56829768
That's practically a hag by pokeworld standards
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>>56827087
What is this, lewds for ants?
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>actually deleted my account after that failed 10 pack
>107 cards later

Wow, this already looks better, but I'm not taking my chances and I'll grind another 120 hourglasses to roll on the Charizard pack next. No Ralts, Kirlia or Gardevoir though, so haha...
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>>56829777
Pokemon has the best hags. Pokemoms are goated.
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>>56827087
>play shit deck
>if I lose i make an excuse about deck being shit
>if i win opponent feels extra shit
It’s a win win
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when is the optimal time to play a red card?
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>>56829830
anytime your opponent has more than 3 cards in hand or their bench pokemon suggest they have the evolution in hand
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>>56829802
It's tough, since the way the ratios work EX cards are more common than regular holos. Getting everything you need might take a few account attempts but I'm rooting for you. Even if the deck isn't the most fun around, the gardevoir line will be future proof and winning is in itself enjoyable.
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>>56829802
>already bricking himself
Fucking retard lmao
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>>56829830
Exactly turn 1. After that, if your opponent ever has more than 4 cards in hand it means they're bricked and Red Card turns into a mulligan that actually helps them.
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This shit is insane, give me a fucking Meowth please
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>>56829684
can his ability be used from the bench? it seems like it would counter articuno, poison, and greninja
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>>56829773
craft them. they're only 35
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https://www.pokemonmeta.com/

add HIS site to the OP
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Got the two of them today from the 2 free packs.
What the fuck
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>>56829783
who is she
reverse didnt work
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>>56829883
Based luck chad
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>>56829874
Kill yourself
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>>56829890
Stop
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Didn't see the new thread...
>>56829904
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>>56829915
Yeah. Keep getting tickets, since they're adding new items to the shop next week for part 2 of the event.
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>>56827087
>gameplay
is the "card game" portion of this trading card game really fun bros
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>>56829933
It’s simple but i like it
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8694414299482843

Add me, I'm restarting and I only need two more Advanced missions.
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>crown and 3* mewtwo
>full art Sabrina
Mewtwo negros, kneel
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Is Blastoise worth building a deck for? My mistys never give me insane stacks.
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>>56829927
Will the ones obtained before the next part count for those missions?
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>>56829933
It's a lot of fun. Think yugioh speed duels, but with pokemon. 3 prize system, fast games, lots of opportunities for swing games to get hyped or upset over.
Very shallow card pool and only like 15 decks to play at the moment. You might have to reroll a few accounts to get a full deck with your freebie pulls because there's no pity system and the crafting option is just objectively trash.
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>>56829982
>dark energy
congrats you beat up some noob with a shit deck
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IF YOU USE MISTY I”M ROPING
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>>56827087
Nice image for durants, idiot
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>>56829982
Based rosario
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>>56829857
Kek damn
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>>56829933
Yes, but you have to find your own fun in deckbuilding.
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>>56830010
GardeWeezTwo is actually a good deck.
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>>56829982
>dark/psychic on a mewtwo ramp ace
That sounds horrible. Also your metal friend dies to a single mewtwo attack so I'm not sure why you're trying to shill the matchup
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>got the rare Meowth off a wonder pick
I'M SO HAPPY
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>>56830041
nice congrats
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>>56830037
No. It isnt. Strictly worse than normal garde mewtwo
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>$5 = 25 gold = ten packs
Bros... I might spend...
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>>56830047
Sure, but you get to play Weezing.
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>guy rolls 5 energy on Misty turn 1 and puts it on his benched squirtle
>proceeds to lose because he never pulls the evolutions

Tough luck buddy
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>>56830041
Hell yeah, meowth friend.
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Why the FUCK is Starmie EX in the Charizard packs?!
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>>56830057
Ooh I forgot about the binder. I'm gonna update mine now!
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>>56830060
Same reason Erika is in it. Because fuck you.
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How do you even get the shiny sparkle shit from dupes to show in game?
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Someone post your weezing deck
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There's no way the coin has a 50% success chance, it's probably like 30%, it's so fucking ridiculous, misty is a dead weight almost every game. I've done only one turn 1 Blizzard since I started using the deck.
Why do people consider that card good again? How is it good if it doesn't do anything?
Is it because of the way I throw the coin? I don't know at this point, I'm so fucking mad. Last match I had 2 misties in hand and got 0 from both, you can't make this shit up.
I can't wait to stop playing this stupid deck, but I don't have good cards for another one.
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>>56830051
Don't do it, bro. It's a slippery slide. It seems cheap at first, but you're going to keep "treating yourself" and by the time you realize you'll have spent hundreds of dollars.
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Use up all the free packs. Should I stick with it?
I got everything I need to build a Mewtwo and Dragonite deck
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holy shit
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>>56830073
You can really do whatever the fuck you want with Weezing. Weezing is super versatile.
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Repost!
If no one else does it I'll try to make an Excel sheet with friend codes on it but it won't happen until much later in the day.
7754398073775440
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>>56830086
Holy fuck this looks super annoying
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>>56830076
t. Mathlet
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>>56830071
You have to apply it in the deck-builder.
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>>56830071
Go to your cards, the second tab from the left on the bottom bar. Click on a card. Press obtain flair. The amount of cards needed is based on its rarity.
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>>56830082
You're right but I'm insane. I'll at least get the discounted gold for now.
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>>56830086
Do you just use fighting energy
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>>56830083
>two decks online
>venu in the back so likely one card away from a 3rd
Refilling would be retarded in your position. You got almost everything out of the mewtwo packs you could want
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>>56830060
>Starmie in the charizard pack
>Blastoise in the pikachu pack
>Articuno in the mewtwo pack

Water is just fucked
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>>56830087
Make a Google served dork
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>>56830094
I'm completely sure I've had 0s more than half of the time, and I've played a lot.
I don't trust apps, I wish I would playing with real cards and dice.
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>>56830104
Fighting and dark. It's not a problem because these pokemon only need 1 energy. I've gotten energy screwed once in like 40 games with the deck so far.
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>>56830112
Apps literally have better random than whatever shitty coin you are flipping
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>>56830083
>no crown
>one alt
Delete it and drop the game.
Be happy with you have and don’t reroll
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>>56830111
Google served? You mean Google sheet? That was the plan. I just call it Excel since it's what I associate it with.
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reroll for erika full art or she will cry
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>>56830106
>>56830124
Thanks, I just got five Guards. Could be good for trading
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>>56830101
>>56830100
Thanks bri
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>>56830124
Not him but crown cards are fucking ugly. TCG always makes the super rare shit lame and the cool shit less rare. I have a crown Charizard and it's fucking useless to me I can't wait to trade this fucker away
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>>56830139
This but for Sabrina or else she'll subject you to a cock cage.
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>>56830134
Google survey sorry I am laying down for the night and I am sleepy. You can make a Google survey that wants
>player ID
>player name
>favorite pokegirl
>optional field
And if will automatically update a Google sheet people can then use to grab player IDs. I didn't realize people cared otherwise I would have done it
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>>56830140
Wtf bro give me one
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>>56830147
pikachu isnt that bad, but i would rather have two illustration than one of each
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add me
7639694013028624
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>>56830147
I hope to trade away all my crown rares when trading is implemented.
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>>56830140
>Could be good for trading
Understatement. She is future proof and as time progresses she will hold her value while every other card in the set plummets. I wouldn't be shocked if in a year people were trading gardes for immersion cards
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>>56830121
And they can also easily be manipulated.
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>>56830151
Oh I didn't know about that. Thanks for the info! I'll have to mess with that later.
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>>56830178
So can literally anything. If you are so co confident start logging EVERY coinflip
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If I don't turn one Articuno with Misty I scoop. Simple as.
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>>56830147
Agreed. It sucks that it's just the plain full art render but with a golden background. They look so lame compared to the ones that actually have cool full pictures with detailed backgrounds and especially the immersive ones.
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Anyone want to duel? Password: vp
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>>56830180
Please do all those fields if you end up doing it. Just make all of them optional except player ID/name
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>>56830197
I'm coming.
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The slowpokes are my favorite. Are there any fun slowbro decks, or am I locked into playing fire due to the pulls?
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>>56830194
Bros... I want to spit roast her with you guys so bad...
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what pokemon do you think or has worked well with pidgeot aside kobra
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>go first
>lose
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220 cards later. I got lucky with Zapdos EX from Wonder Trade, but the last two ten rolls were duds, I only got that Machamp EX.

Reroll?
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>>56830207
Current Slowbro seems kinda shitty. Maybe good for soaking up damage with his high HP but 3 energy for 80 attack isn't great.
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>>56830084
>the Machamp meme is real
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>>56830230
>Two Mewtwo
I'd keep it
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>>56830216
Just Arbok really.
Maybe Dragonite if you want to be greedy.
Or Hypno + Dugtrio to stall them out and win via decking.
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>>56830236
Not a single Ralts, Kirlia or Gardevoir, not a single GL card either.
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>>56830225

what advantage does going first get you anyway? I guess you can use support cards first to fuck up your opponent's setup?
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>>56830216
I've been thinking about trying it with Weezing. But I don't have the full Pidgey line yet.
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The wishlish thing is dumb. Doesnt even notify you when the card is in the wonder pick selections
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>>56830242
Oof
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>>56830244
Potentially screwing over your opponent with Red card I guess
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Would it be the worst idea to spend points to get Gardevoir if I have pretty much everything else to make a Mewtwo deck?
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>>56830244
You can Red Card your opponent. And evolve first. Once we get more evos that attack for one energy going first will be better.
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up to 227 pack hourglasses
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>>56830238
oooo
dragonite sounds fun, but like you said: really greedy and risky
>>56830245
i have been thinking weezing as well
poisoning and force switching sounds viable
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Do pick the first pack or move them about beforehand?
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>>56830238
Deckout isn't a wincon
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>>56830270
Doesn't matter. It's all the same pack. Your result is per-determined from the moment you pressed the summon button.
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>>56830260
Big basics>evolution for 80% of the lifespan of the tcg
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>>56830270
I'm 99% sure the contents are chosen the moment you go into the roulette screen. The different packs are an illusion, no matter which booster pack you pick they're all the same.
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>>56830257
It might be but that's what I did. Spend a few points to get a good deck and then hoard while waiting for better options. In gachas it's always best to hoard resources. And I'm actually wondering if our pack points will be usable on the miniset. If we can then saving for that is likely optimal.
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>>56830278
>>56830280
N-no my schizo tech
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Weaknesses shouldn’t apply in pvp its so gay
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>>56830257
If you plan to keep digging I would say hold off but there is certainly a case for just buying the rest once you can afford it. The only actual idiots are the ones who buy and still can't make the deck yet
>bro I will buy them latter
Enjoy your triplicate
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>>56830289
.dek?
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Is there any way to reset the fucking wonder picks?
There has been nothing but GARBAGE in mine for the past two days.
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>>56830281
It says in the point exchange that when a booster pack availability period ends, the points won't be available for exchange.
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>>56830289
>t. Mistyplapper69 just got pounded by Lt. CHADrge
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Basic and second forms shouldn't get ex versions
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>>56830318
lmao for all of Gen 5 and 6, all EXs were basics and Stage 2s were literally unplayable
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>>56830309
Is the miniset replacing the Mewtwo set? I thought they were both going to available until the next set came out.
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>>56830216
>what pokemon do you think or has worked well with pidgeot aside kobra

I'd imagine Hypno, Arbok, Omastar, maybe Aerodactyl
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>>56830308
Yeah. Get better friends.
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>>56830230
what the hell are you even aiming for? why are you opening from every booster?
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>>56830336
Does having friends increase the total number of wonder picks available?
I thought it just replaced some of the randoms.
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>>56830216
I don't think there's been a lot of testing with the line since it's so rare for whatever reason
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>>56830197
I'm done for now. GG. Pidgeot really screws with my gameplan of stalling.
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>>56830351
Thanks for the games. Your deck was very interesting.
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>>56830329
I'm not sure. I can't find a date anywhere for when or even if the packs are leaving anytime soon.
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>>56830344
Your friends replace some of tge randoms, yes. I don't think it increases your total wonder pick amount tho. Find yourself a whale friend. That's the best way to get good wonder picks. Get as many whale friends as you can.
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>>56830356
It basically does okay against Pikachu and Mewtwo decks and loses against everything else unless you get real lucky.
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>>56830289
Have you never played the real TCG? Weakness is a crazy x2 in that.
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>>56830372
Don't forget Resistances are also a thing.
Genuinely unfun to lose a matchup before you even begin because your opponent's doing double damage to you and your 2HKOs turn into 3 or 4HKOs.
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>>56830372
yes and they released dark charizard to fuck over honest gardy players with kanto slop
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>>56827087
why does eevee get 4 cards?
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>>56830308
The best thing you can do to get more wonder picks faster is to just check it constantly. When the timer runs out on one you get a new one, but the timers on the new picks don't start counting down until you've viewed the page. So you autistically have to look at your picks whenever one runs out for maximum efficiency.
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>>56830363
I don't have the sources myself but the streamers I watch have all said that the release schedule for new cards is going to be something like a new set every three months with a miniset in-between. So we should be getting new cards every 6 weeks.
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>>56830262
Use them you rat
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I wish every single Dragonite player a bad forever of wonder pulls. Fuck off.
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>>56830317
Porn is bad for you
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>>56830375
>Pokémon tcg
>3HKO
Never happens
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>>56830383
Because it's epic
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>>56830407
That's not porn. They're just wrestling. And Surge is winning.
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>>56830393
Losing to Dragonite is a genuine skill issue.
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>>56827087
Which of these should I craft to make a new deck with?
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>>56830393
I am a pikachu zapdos player and am trans BTW I forgot to note that haha
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I haven't played the tcg in over a year and I looked at tops and it's the same exact decks. That's the biggest complaint I have about that game due to no banlist. I hope here it is handled better.
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>>56830278
>>56830280
Proof of this?
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yay
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>>56830422
Star and or hypno
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>>56830422
Hypno is fun. It's one of the only pokemon on the bench that can really do anything right now.
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>>56830431
You can get away with lower consistency decks in a simulator since you're not aiming to top. Play whatever jank ass shit your heart desires and embrace your 30% winnrate.
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>>56830432
they would probably have to disclose it. the odds would change when you open packs if they had different contents.
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>>56830407
I have read literal thousands if not tens of thousands of doujinshi over my life and 90% of you would call me a normalfag
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add me
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>>56827087
Pikachu gets so much hate but Starmie Ex does just as much damage, more reliably and has higher survivability, and can start attacking just add quickly.
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>>56830453
Normalfag.
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>>56830431
The paper TCG doesn't have a banlist? Grim.
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>>56830453
Wow you're so cool. Not
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>>56830450
That's what I've been doing. Without ranked there's really no reason to play meta.
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>>56830082
>$5
bro that's as much as buying a on single pack irl
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>>56830457
They DO have a banlist but they very rarely ban things in standard. Usually if something is game breaking everyone has to patiently wait 2 years for it to rotate out.
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>>56830455
The only reason that people dont hate Starmie is because barely anyone has it since you want pieces from multiple packs. Everyone runs Pikachu and Mewtwo because you just pull everything you need out of their packs.
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>>56830445
butterfree can heal entire team for 20
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>>56830450
I would probably go back and play my Inteleon deck. The simulator was annoying because everyone played Miraidon because it was free. At least now in this game there is some variety.
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>>56830479
The game won't give me a second Butterfree.
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>>56830432
If you close the game during the pack selection animation (as in after you've pressed summon), the content will be automatically gifted to you when you open the game back up. Also there's a skip button when you select the pack. You can just press that and get the cards immediately. The whole thing is just for show.
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>>56830484
post your butterfree team
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>>56830445
Magneton + Surge for instant 140 damage from Raichu is fun
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>>56830455
that is because starmie and water in general is incosistent as fuck

yes, starmie does 90 for 2 as well

but it needs to evolve, and misty is just RNG

this is a top 25 from todays tournament that had 500 players

see how many pikachu/mewtwo/charizards there are compared to any other deck
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>>56830521
grim next 3 months of the game
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>>56830521
>but it needs to evolve, and misty is just RNG
And pika needs a bench
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What is Poke Gold (Paid) for? Is the paid version stronger for time reduction on boosters?
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>>56830539
finding 3 of ANY electric mons for the bench, which you can include as many as you want in your deck, is easier than finding a specific evolution. Pika also has Zapdos as a backup attacker when you draw low basics.
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>>56830521
Don't care Misty is queen
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>>56830539
there is a big gap in consistency there in odds of hitting
the odds of a pikachu hitting 3 bench when running 6-8 basics + 2 pokeballs are a lot higher than a staryu-starmie hitting on par

there is a huge gap in perfomance when it comes to competitive meta when you compare mewtwo, pikachu and charizard with water decks
even marowak and venusaur have a slight edge over it
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>>56830540
Usually gacha games have a paid and non-paid version of the prime currency and the only difference is the non-paid ones have a cap on how many you can hold.
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>>56830534
there is a new smaller set (A1a) mid december
so we might get cards for a meta shift then or at least an adjustment
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they patched the bent pack thing
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>>56827087
>IT'S CALLED MARKETING!
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>>56830540
There's going to be better deals that you can only get from the paid gold. It's weird it exists when you get so little free gold though.

Like in Masters you can pull a single unit for 300 gems but there is also a special daily pull for 100 paid gems.
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they should have taken a note from duel links and started the game without ex mons. that way more cards are viable and the game is slower. i suppose that also doesnt make enough immediate money either.
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>>56830540
>>56830555
There is some fucking awful gacha as well that have paid only banners allowed for certain things. Oh you have summon Crystals? Awesome! The Special 3 year Anniversary banner requires paid crystals, though. Also you need a subscription.
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>HOW DO I GUARANTEE THE MEOWTH
i dont care if its once ever
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My friends list still isn't full
Add me: 8561464884443170
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anyone watching the rng tournament?
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>>56830587
Event is up for 2 weeks. Just keep doing the free picks and you'll eventually hit it.
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>Already got all the ticket rewards
>keep pulling more tickets

Wish I could trade them in for hourglasses
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>>56830454
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>>56830601
Hoard them for next month
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>>56830593
>meta shitter
ya I'm putting you on the list.
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>>56830601
There is a part 2 of the event that gives more cosmetics.
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>>56830611
>meta shitter
Have you not seen my Garde list? the Weezing tech is the future
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Check wonder picks, you MIGHT see something good I just pulled ;)
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>>56830634
based
i plan to use the same deck once i get my 2 weezings
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>>56830634
I'm putting Weezing into all my decks right now and it's a blast.
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Is machamp ex good?
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>>56830661
It's really good at going second because the whole line can attack on curve while still evolving. And that's about it. 120 damage for three energy is ok but it certainly isn't Mewtwo or Charizard numbers.
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>>56830634
What energy are you using? Just psychic right?
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>>56830521
Where are the conversion rates? If 90% of the field is playing Pikachu, Mewtwo, or Charizard, this isn't particularly informative.
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>>56830690
Nope. I'm using the dark energy because Gardevoir offsets the RNG by always pulling phychic. And, I feel like the deck really appreciates the extra damage from Weezings Tackle. I haven't run into a situation yet where getting too much dark has screwed me. The reverse has actually happened. Getting phychic when I want to Tackle sucks.
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>>56827087
If no one is liking your showcase, it's probably because you have it set to private.
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>>56830680
It can attack very aggressively, yeah. People don't appreciate the level of tempo you can put out. Going second you keep up with / outpace Pikachu ex's damage, and you can even KO Pika ex before it attacks if you have a Giovanni. And fighting is a great typing, Sandslash, hitmonchan, hitmonlee, some really good cards.
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>>56830730
Yeah set it to public, I just logged in and there was 5 shop tickets in my box just from showcase likes
Don't even have to play the game anymore, just collect passive income
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Has anyone calculated how much we get in ship tokens monthly? 5 daily thanks is 150 so we wouldn’t even be able to buy the 6x hourglasses?
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>>56830743
Make a few binder show cases of meta decks or homebrews and tags them as decks. I've gotten at least a dozen likes from my Weezing hybrid decks today alone.
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>only open Mewtwo
>Several Mewtwos, other randoms
>No Dragonite
>No Gardevoir
>Most free hourglass gone, will be stuck with passive packs now
Maybe I should reroll
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>>56830766
I think that's normal. Don't have gardevoir or dragonite either but 3 Mewtwo EX
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can't wait for real money trade bros, i'll paypal someone for a gold crown mewtwo
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>>56830766
Crafting multiple Gardevoir is much less costly than crafting multiple Mewtwo EX
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Made a macro to like everyone's showcase every daily reset. Please add me and pay it forward thank you!

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>>56830521
Some spicy Weezing lists in that tournament.
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Tomodachi onegai
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>>56827368
>playing cards that don't directly help you win
Is it really so barren for options that handscope is your best one?
Surely even some fossil stall is better?

I just don't see many cases where hand knowledge changes your play when fossil beats Sabrina, and potion keeps you out of range of Giovani

So instead of looking to see if they have answers and then also hopefully having the cards to play around it why not just run more cards that actually progress the game state and play a bit more cautiously if you can afford it.

Just my uneducated stance on HamdSxope as a card.
Like pokedex
"Great I know what your hand/the next 3 cards I will draw are, now if only I could actually do something about it."
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datamines are saying next miniset launches on dec 16 then a full set launching on jan29

f2pbros its going to be rough to keep up
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Finally my deck is playable
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>pull 2 full art Wheezing before I pull any regulars
>still no koga
>still no fucking gardevoir
I have full arts and EXs falling out of every orifice but I'm stuck on 2 and 3 diamond cards
and I don't want to craft before we know how trading works either
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>>56830838
>f2pbros its going to be rough to keep up
especially when the events don't seem to give pack hourglasses.
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>>56830534
>three completely different Tier 1 decks
>different ways to build each of them
>rogue decks also top
>grim
This is unironically an incredibly healthy meta for a card game. Everyone expected there to be a clear Tier 0 but shit's currently pretty diverse. It's especially nice that all three packs each have a solid deck in them.
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>>56830838
What's a miniset
A new expansion banner that runs concurrently or like one with higher rates for EX or specific cards or
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>>56830838
>>56830856
It's worth noting each set will have its own AI battles, so we'll get hourglasses and tickets from there.
Source: the tutorial

>>56830866
I'm assuming every main set will be ~300 cards divided into three boosters, and mini sets will be, what, 100 cards and only a single booster to pick from?
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>>56830866

Probably 25-50 new cards. A normal size is probably 100+? I dont know, speaking out of my ass, just makes sense when thinking about it.
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Wait wonderpick really takes 2.5 days to recharge?
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>>56830897
It's instant if you pay money.
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>>56830862
Misty Articuno is Tier 0 roughly 2.8% of the time (including the 50/50 for going first, removing that it's 5.59%)
Not counting the chance of both pulling Oak and then pulling Misty from said Oak either, or I suppose the chances of doubling up on Misty either.
But it should be a bit higher than these numbers.

Also if going second it should be around a whopping 13 percent to both have Misty and double heads.
Though your opponent has a single turn to potentially put down a fossil or pokeball a new basic.

Of course there is the chance too that you don't win from Blizzard Turn 1/ Turn 1 going second, but...
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>>56830873
>and mini sets will be, what, 100 cards and only a single booster to pick from?
I can't see a game this jewish doing single pack sets. the "mini" sets will almost certainly be 2 packs. I'd assume most of them will use box legendaries as the 2 cover cards
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>>56830916
>Misty Articuno is Tier 0 roughly 2.8% of the time
That's not what that means or how you use those words.
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We hate misty...
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>>56830922
Well I mean I'm joking but Tier 0 is just a deck that wins Turn 1 before any opponent interaction is it not?

It's what it meant in card games I played before, and if you go first draw Misty (guaranteed Articuno from game mechanics) get 3 heads you basically auto win
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>>56830935
>Well I mean I'm joking but Tier 0 is just a deck that wins Turn 1 before any opponent interaction is it not?
No. Tier 0 means it's so much stronger than the next best thing that it completely takes over the meta and becomes the only deck anyone plays. Right now, it's looking more like Pikachu and Mewtwo are both Tier 1. There's no Tier 0 right now.
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If I'm just rolling heads then Dugtrio is the strongest card.
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Pikachu and Mewtwo both win based on the coinflip. Misty doesn't care about the first coinflip but has to win a second coinflip.
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>>56830706
about 25% mewtwo, 25% pikachu, 10% charizard, 10% water, 5% marowak 5% venusaur, 5% blaine, 15% rogue decks
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Misty should be called at 1 energy. The fact it works on every water type already makes it 10x better than Brock and would still be run in every water deck
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>>56829578
>beat articuno ex
Good, it deserves it for looking like the girugamesh meme.
>>56830829
Combo it with a Red Card. Hilarious.
>>56830060
Misty's in Pikachu as well. Water enthusiasm isn't good for f2p with Genetic Apex.
>>56830083
Don't reroll, just be patient with future packs. I rerolled after starting with a Venusaur deck but it's not my thing.
>>56830140
I hate my luck for being so average.
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>>56830935
Tier 0 means a deck so powerful that it warps the meta around itself. Misty is inherently held back from this because it's power is based on a coinflip, and with every warer type seemingly balanced around Misty highrolls without winning that coinflip its deck are mediocre.
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>>56830963
with the top 25 being:
10 Pikachu (40%), 6 Mewtwo (24%), 5 Charizard (20%, 1 Water (4%), 1 Marowak (4%), 1 Blaine (4%), 1 Rogue (4%)

so pikachu vastly outperformed, charizard outperformed
mewtwo, marowak, blaine were on par and water and rogue decks underperformed

maybe in a month you guys will catch up to the meta and stop crying about misty and water decks
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>>56830270
Use the fast forward button for every screen.
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I'm still not convinced about red card.
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I’m not schizophrenic but you can hear the packs that have rares in them. Turn the volume up on your phone and it changes on the god packs.
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Holy based
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>>56831003
for me it's always the 3 slot, no matter what
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>>56831002
>I'm not schizophrenic, but the 0.05% chance pack is talking to me
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Misty is Noob trap
Shit enough to not be run by actual good people but good enough to sometimes randomly job to by a random idiot bringing it.

You'll never make it far with Misty, but you can certainly prevent others from doing it.
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What deck will realistically powercreep the GODmewtwoex, pokechads? I know nothing about the actual card game
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>>56830971
Literally the only downside is opportunity cost, whoch currently isn't that much
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oh hey that worked out
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>>56831032
If I add you does that mean I can have a chance at this with wonder trading
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>>56831032
I want her so bad.
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>>56831032
Meanwhile I pulled the fancy Erika and have no grass cards to use it
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>>56831040
Feel free to do so
(That Sabrina was Wonder Picked)
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>>56830973
Speaking of Red Card I swear it's a 50/50 split of whether it ends up actually helping me or not when used against me.

A couple game my opponent had 5 cards but it seemed kinda dead so I didn't use it, and in other games they had 4 butbwerent playing much, red carded them and then they started going to town on me.

I thunk I'm going to stop running it probably, unless like you say combed with Scope but there are much better 2-card combos out there.
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What cards am I looking for when rerolling?
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>>56831026
Every single pokemon EX in this first set will quickly get powercrept to shit.
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>>56831067
all the more reason for me to bully people with fossilmons

thanks anon
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>>56831061

yikes
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>>56831073
I mean the non-ex will also get powercrept. We are all playing with some dogwater cards right now. Typically only the stuff with useful utility abilities survives through the powercreep cycle of the pokemon tcg. Anything that is an "attacker" will absolutely not see play after a few sets.
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>>56827087
even if they changed Misty to only give a single energy to a water pokemon it would still be too OP debate me
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any useful decks for this fat fuck? got the full art and its kino but he looks SHIT
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>>56831094
mixed energy is a meme
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>>56831067
Pokémon powercreep is cringe. They do the stupid meme by releasing new EXs with like 10 more HP than old ones so the threshold changes for a one or two shot.
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>>56831067
Moltres looks like it could stick around a while. That energy acceleration is too good to ignore.
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I hope whenever a Gyarados EX is added that there isn't a Pikachu oppressing the meta
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>>56831121
>300 hp
what the fuck is this where the game is going lmfao
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>>56831130
>where in this game going
in the dumpster
outside of collecting waifus and using meme decks
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Using 1 Misty should give your opponent a Prize
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>>56831094
The dragonite deck is very fun to play. There is risk and patience needed in building him up but once you unleash him the payoff is so satisfying
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>>56831136
I often misplay on purpose if I get 3 or more misty coins because it's THAT fuckin' nasty
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>>56831091
That change would make it stronger on average. The current average should be 1 energy if you take the math to infinite limits, but that means in realistic scenarios it's slightly less than 1.
Not to mention that being reliable would instantly make it far more appealing at high levels, where the 50% chance of wasting a supporter doing literally nothing is just not acceptable odds when a tournament is on the line.
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>>56831135
>outside of collecting waifus and using meme decks
You mean there's other reasons to play this?
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>>56831153
of course not don't be silly anon
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>>56831130
No, I imagine they will stick to adding cards purely created for Pocket
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>>56830521
there's just more people playing Pikachu. If pika didn't counter articuno or starmie you'd see that win against the other decks.
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Where is the Johto shillmons at
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>>56831171
I still believe that even if Pikachu didn't have a type advantage it would still beat out Starmie more times than not simply due to greater consistency
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Add me bros
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The real issue with Pikachu is Electrode having a zero cost retreat. He lets you set up an easy sweep. If you open those three you are probably doing 60-90 damage on a full health EX by your second to third turn.
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>>56831174
Johto is being memory holed because of the Typhlosion scandal.
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>>56830990
same. I play against my friend and they said pretty much every time my red cards did nothing or helped them.
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this fatass is unironically pretty strong, if you go 2nd you can get him running able to attack after 2 turns
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>>56831053
Same for me. I played against my friend and asked after every match. Usually the red cards do nothing. rarely they slow them down most a little. and a good amount of the time it helps them
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I have two Mewtwo EXs but only one Ralts and one Kirlia and no Gardevoirs. Should I reroll? I'm out of pulls.
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>>56831174
Yeah besides Gen 1 it's interesting how much attention Gen 5 Pokemon are getting in this set. I think because both generations marked a beginning, and that's the theme of this set. Actually as I typed that I realized realistically it's probably more just promotion for the Legends Z-A game.
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>>56831241
play a poverty deck until you get them from wonderpick or daily packs
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>>56831241
Have you already received every hourglass from the solo battles and bought the hourglasses from the shop with tickets?
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I have 2 alt art Dragonites but only 1 Dratini and no Dragonairs
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>>56831257
Yeah. Not the monthly though but I'm out of store currency too.
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>>56831239
One of my favorite moves is "stockpiling good but not amazing cards in the hopes I get red carded into my evos/draw cards"
70 percent of the time it works 100 percent of the time.
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>>56831204
when I draw electrode and pika first turn. I don't even put energy on electrode. I just put it on pika and swap for free.
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I honestly don’t know how you powercreep pikachu without making everything >190 hp
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>20 packs
>articuno ex x2
>mewtwo ex x2
>gardevoir x1
>dragonite x1
>still missing misty, sabrina, dragonair and kirlia
Sad
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>>56831241
that's why you should have spent your tranny tickets on wonder hour glasses. you could probably craft most of that for cheap and wonder pick garde.
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>>56831272
well what do you think is gonna happen
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>>56831262
Do you have the pack points to craft what you're missing? And if not do you have the cards to play a lower tier deck until you do? I played Dragonite until I was able to finish my Mewtwo deck
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>>56831266
A-all I need is myself and I can do turn 2/3, on average, eight-
>tails tails
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>>56830051
You actually made me check, it's pretty cheap wasn't expecting that.
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>>56831285
No. I have 290 points and I would need 300 for two Gardevoirs, 105 for another Ralts and Kirlia, and 140 for two Sabrinas. I'm not even close.
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>>56830051
Ten packs is nothing in this game. The gacha rate is abysmal.
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>>56830051
>spending gold on packs
weak, spend that gold on cool coins
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>>56831308
I'm just going to make a new account on an old phone. The only fun part about this game is rolling anyway. I'll still have my old account on my current phone if I don't get anything better.
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>>56831306
>tfw accidentally spent a couple of gold on a pack alongside hourglasses
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add me
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>>56831317
YOU DID WHAT
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>>56830110
Don't forget Misty in Pika too
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>>56831239
if you're holding cards in this game it means they're bricks. All the decks in this game spew their hand.
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>>56831303
At least it's 10 packs, in the other gacha stuff I had the displeasure of playing $5 you can't even roll
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>>56831355
Hoyo? True but I feel like that's kind of different to this. Like the whole game is just collecting cards to look at. When you pull something in one of those games you get this whole moveable 3d model that you get to level up and customize and play around with. It doesn't feel equivalent. At least to me.
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>>56831350
Not true, exactly. Red Card is good on turns one and two, since you can shuffle away evolutions. After that, yeah, if your opponent hasn't dumped their hand they're bricked and Red Card will only help them.
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>Rare packs are 0.05%
>That means it appears every 2000 packs
Some people are going to be playing from launch to whenever eos comes and never get one
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im gonna start paychadding, i need to...
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>>56831381
Bro you won't even play this trash in a week. A month tops.
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>>56831300
just keep wonderpicking and using the free packs youll get those eventually. I just finished my mewtwo ex dex and got my 2nd garde from the free pack today after building from global launch using the bent pack exploit
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>>56831381
if you're going to really end up spending money on this game is it REALLY worth it to waste the premium currency on packs
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>>56831381
If you're spending money, you should make other people aware to make adding you more desirable
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add me
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>>56831394
Probably not but Erika (worst girl, by the way) being the only thing you can purchase right now with gold was a bad move. The Gardevoir pack is smart but at least the choice of THREE gym leaders would be a lot smarter.
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>>56831394
30 extra packs a month, probably the best (((value))) you could get for below ten bux
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>>56831406
It's just not satisfying. One measly pack per day doesn't scratch the itch. Especially when the rates are as shit as they are.
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>>56831403
I'll gladly wait for Misty or Sabrina if they're gonna make us wait until EOS for non Kanto pandering, but yeah Erika is a bit of a weird choice if you ask me (cute but not that hot)
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So when rerolling should I just restart if the 10 roll you can do when you complete the beginner missions is complete shit or should I grind up the advanced missions too? Only really good thing on this account so far is the really cool full art Moltres EX.
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Kinda bothered we're not using dice in this game like we do we the real game. A Regi inspired die would go hard as fuck.
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Game is so fucking awful, there has got to be a better way to maintain consistency than just reducing the amount of basics in your deck.
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>>56827087
I got sick of not knowing shit, so I looked up a bunch of shit and made a thing to do statistical math about card pulls.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mmFA8bHrEOjeH2Vy93qb1nHdkmzq3ihPiy0b2LWY-4w/edit?usp=sharing

Feel free to use it, or add it to the general OPs or whatever.

Kind of looks like this game is crazy slow advancement once the free timer reducers run out.
For a 90% chance to have obtained a specific 1 diamond common on average you'd need to spend 456 hourglasses or wait 19 days.
Alternately, you'd need it to show up about 10 times in wonder picks.
Building a F2P meta deck in this once all the tutorial freebies are gone would be absolutely torture. It would take like a year or more.
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The card pulling is really fun. Everything else is trash. I would rather they just did an offline card pulling simulator. The battle part sucks.
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>>56831451
fossils.
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I bet trading restrictions are gonna be like
>You have to be level 30 or above to trade
Or else you could just make dummy accounts and trade to your main with after continuous rerolls
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>>56831467
I hope they add more substance to the battling
like a ladder or any kind of rewards aside from the likes (that I think you can only get a set amount of per day?)
because this really is a pack opening sim with a battler as an afterthought
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>>56831488
dubs and ranked is already datamined, coming soon(tm)
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fuck
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>10-roll
>Got absolutely nothing not even a single card I wanted
How the hell
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the optimal way of spending the shop tickets would be to buy all current monthly hourglasses, right? then just chip away the cheaper ones, correct?
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Any chance of ranked being a 30 card mode? There's a message during the deck building process about a 30 card limit.
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>>56831503
you're being played by FOMO
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>>56831509
i think that's just to make deckbuilding easier, if you're having trouble deciding what to cut.

>>56831502
here's how the hell
>>56831464
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>>56831503
outside of buying the non-monthly ones, i'd just save them until next event/pack comes around. unless you're a paypig, you wont be refilling the trans flags that often anyways
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>>56831528
then what's the best way to use shop tickets? just saving them up for now?
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why dont they have dusting like literally every other card game
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>>56831536
they do, you just have to have 5 total copies before you can, even though you can only put 2 in a deck, and the dust only redeems for cosmetic upgrades.
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>4 kogas
>0 sabrinas and misties
Fug
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how ex pikachu and zapdos are 1 star retreats is truly beyond me
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>>56831553
They're lightning fast bro
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>>56831372
That's higher odds than getting a shiny in the games
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>get red carded, but redraw into something decent
>2nd fucking red card to brick my hand while he maximum misty rolls onto articuno
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>>56831564
Encounters in the games don't take 12 hours or real money.
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Chingchong said the bended pack strategy is legit. It's written in moonrunes so now it's confirmed true
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>>56831586
You get roughly 700 free packs a year and that's not even including the use of hourglasses. It's still really good odds of pulling one before EoS.
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>>56831610
Why is it always Pokemon that attracts the gullible retards?
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>>56831372
it's possible to find a godpack in wonder trades though
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>>56831610
How does this work?
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>>56831624
it doesn't
there's no way devs will code something like this
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>>56831620
>>56831624
lel
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>>56831624
if you rotate the pack, some may have a little bended border at the top right side. It's the new golden calf of Pocket
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>>56831627
It would be illegal as well
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>>56831633
no it wouldn't
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>>56831633
lol are you the same guy who said it would be illegal for nintendo to alter cards after launch
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Just Aero'd someone turn 2 with an empty bench.
Feels pretty good ngl
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This game feels like it will become very boring very fast.
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>>56831610

HOLY FUCK... its hilarious people actually to believe this to be true. It doesn't even make sense.

1. It would have to been coded, which it wasnt
2. Somehow the "physical" contents of the digital pack cause the corner to be bent when the pack was produced in the digital factory

Sadly, you idiots probably believe #2 to be true.
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>>56831656
It already is. Once you run out of free hourglasses there's literally nothing to do.
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the bent pack is true tho i was a non believer but then i tried it 2 times in a row and got rares each time, its not schizo!!1
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>>56831539
i meant dusting for cards
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>>56831661
>there's literally nothing to do
go battle people? the entire point of pokemon tcg?

i dont understand you people
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i already spent 20 dollars on this :/
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you are collecting all the 1* cards right anon? You aren't a casual right anon?
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>>56831677
good sissy pay daddy gamefreak like the good goy you are
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>opent bent pack as a test
>shitty Electross but still technically a rare
>decide to open another bent pack because surely this was a fluke
>get Articuno EX
>open another bent pack
>its another Articuno EX
Ok.
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>>56831673
But that's not fun
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>>56831686

>things that never happened
Ok.
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t-thanks...
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>already have the event items and I'm only missing 1 of the new Chansey arts
nice fucking event
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>have full mewtwo and marowak decks from ~25 packs
Think I’m just gonna start hoarding. I don’t even battle that much
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>>56831698
>mad because he spent all his gold opening non-bent packs and getting shit
Just opened a Mewtwo EX from a bent pack btw. This shit is getting patched soon. This is why you should always hoard resources, so you can exploit bugs like this.
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>>56831720
Yeah well I just did it myself and didn't get jack shit. Explain that.
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>>56831737
This one came from a backwards pack. There was no bent pack this time. Either there's a bug or my luck is phenomenal. I'm 4 for 4 so far.

>>56831739
The first bent pack I opened had a shitty Electross in but it’s been goods pulls since.
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add me
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I’m going back to Duel Links



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